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Thread for discussion of National Socialism, Fascism, Nationalism, and European Identity

VIRAL PROPAGANDA
https://youtu.be/OItXB8FowyI
https://youtu.be/sn4mVDtqi7g
https://youtu.be/X9HBtB2w0Ts
https://youtu.be/kzIRG525l6s
https://youtu.be/ihnxE0ZnjZg
https://youtu.be/8ymEKiY1UR8
https://youtu.be/0TX7PvOYEj4
https://youtu.be/RmtuCzKy83U
https://youtu.be/hHxYEC4zNTU
https://youtu.be/9gXVa3yogLk
https://youtu.be/WsCSAEdxXMc
https://youtu.be/44vzMNG2fZc

AMERICAN NATSOC
>George Lincoln Rockwell
https://youtu.be/0Gnov1TdIA0
https://youtu.be/OJrAWBtqcq8
>Dr. William Pierce
https://youtu.be/e4KSF8e578k
https://youtu.be/kybN4dlBA5c
https://youtu.be/6Rg0RJKVvpU
https://youtu.be/YeIcQSnepig

GERMAN NATSOC
https://youtu.be/Rtpn5QYP5Ig
https://youtu.be/RmtuCzKy83U
https://youtu.be/8ra-ChcOiuU
https://youtu.be/Jw37ZJaG_hc
https://youtu.be/2B8C02yY6Ec
https://youtu.be/qwS6HtMKNOA
>Hellstorm - Post-war Genocide of Germans
https://youtu.be/qkQ6J5F01Do
>Hitler's War - the Allies caused the war
https://youtu.be/MejbBsSAP8I
>25 Demands of National Socialism:
https://youtu.be/cgltok5yYeY
>Rodney Martin - The Economic Plan of the NSDAP
https://youtu.be/pKnFN8P21-0
>German Economic Miracle of the 1930's
https://youtu.be/YkenkfRTn4c
>Hitler's Economic Reform:
https://youtu.be/_r9Z-hTn1r4
>Social and Cultural Policies of NS Germany
https://youtu.be/bAmgGmxHOMY
>Ernst Zundel - National socialism explained
https://youtu.be/FXmIbx01-3o
https://youtu.be/YthyzrulbXw
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National (Folkish) Socialism
vs.
International (Marxist) Socialism
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https://youtu.be/rOoTQD4H6Uc
https://youtu.be/MIN7gP8hzpc
https://youtu.be/Gl9vyaeGd4E
https://youtu.be/x1tUFx_StSo
https://youtu.be/p6ecoB50PyI

British New Right:
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>Jonathan Bowden:
https://youtu.be/9MEvGbTrwvo
https://youtu.be/sDGWr8kMBk8
https://youtu.be/d41tCnDSZV0
https://youtu.be/Qb2mBfwHcmc
https://youtu.be/fAY9OlphRok

Books
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>Adolf Ehrt - Communism in Germany
https://archive.org/details/CommunismInGermany
>Adolf Ehrt - Bewaffnetter Aufstand!
https://archive.org/details/BewaffnetterAufstand

>Adolf Hitler - Mein kampf (English)
https://archive.org/details/MeinKampf_472
>Adolf Hitler - Mein Kampf (Deutsch)
https://archive.org/details/Hitler-Adolf-Mein-Kampf

>Gottfried Feder - The Program Of The NSDAP The National Socialist Workers' Party And Its General Conceptions
https://archive.org/details/GottfriedFeder_TheProgramOfTheNSDAP
>Gottfried Feder - Das Programm der NSDAP (Deutsch)
https://archive.org/details/Feder-Gottfried-Das-Programm-der-NSDAP
>Gottfried Feder - Manifesto For The Abolition Of Interest Slavery
https://archive.org/details/GottfriedFederManifestoForTheAbolitionOfInterestSlavery1919
>Gottfried Feder The German State On A National And Socialist Foundation
https://archive.org/details/GottfriedFederTheGermanStateOnANationalAndSocialistFoundation
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BOOKS (cont'd)
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>Savitri Devi - Gold in the Furnace
https://archive.org/details/GoldInTheFurnace_314
>Savitri Devi - Impeachment of Man
https://archive.org/details/impeachment-of-man-savitri-devi

>Tomislav Sunic - Art in the Third Reich: 1933-1945
https://archive.org/details/ArtInTheThirdReich19331945

>Joseph Goebbels - Communism with the mask off.
http://research.calvin.edu/german-propaganda-archive/goeb58.htm
>Joseph Goebbels - On the natural alliance between Democracy and Communism
https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Holocaust/Goebbels091038.html

>A. James Gregor - Mussolini's Intellectuals
http://press.princeton.edu/chapters/s7870.html

>Politically Incorrect Books Archive:
https://mega.nz/#F!B4dB2SzQ!h_pMC30v2a_y31iD0dy0sg


Misc:
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https://pridecomethbeforeafall.wordpress.com/2014/02/10/hitlers-economic-miracle/
>The Case For Germany (1939) - Life and governance in NS Germany
http://www.wintersonnenwende.com/scriptorium/english/archives/caseforgermany/cfg00.html
>How Hitler Consolidated Power and Launched a Social Revolution by Leon Degrelle
http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v12/v12p299_Degrelle.html
>http://national-socialist-worldview.blogspot.com/
>https://nseuropa.wordpress.com/
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Falangist checking in
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>>70973777
>https://mega.nz/#F!B4dB2SzQ!h_pMC30v2a_y31iD0dy0sg
Check out the #9 - March edition of Pol Books for the Primo de Rivera anthology.
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I've been away from /pol/ for a while now. Any Mexican natsoc still on this board?
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Come on /pol/, I know you're not completely normies yet.
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>>70973542
/pol/ has changed it seems
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>>70976391
give it time, they've been through alot
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>>70973542
Nice thread, anon!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfNQaE-FPwU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7vVst4qpKg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wU2m064iaQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPh6yJoyZbk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOBXc5exrL8
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Difference between Communism and NS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gl9vyaeGd4E

Social and Cultural Policies of NS Germany
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bAmgGmxHOMY

https://pridecomethbeforeafall.wordpress.com/2014/02/10/hitlers-economic-miracle/

The Case For Germany (1939) - This book has lots of info on life and governance in NS Germany
http://www.wintersonnenwende.com/scriptorium/english/archives/caseforgermany/cfg00.html

How Hitler Consolidated Power and Launched a Social Revolution by Leon Degrelle - Includes Economic and Governing Information.
http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v12/v12p299_Degrelle.html

More NS resources.
http://national-socialist-worldview.blogspot.com/
https://nseuropa.wordpress.com/

Goebbels - Communism with the mask off.
http://research.calvin.edu/german-propaganda-archive/goeb58.htm

Goebbels on the natural alliance between Democracy and Communism
https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Holocaust/Goebbels091038.html
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>>70976391
indeed

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExoKnhSZFCE
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>>70977051
NIce additions, bumping

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBibWSh8L8Q
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I like NatSoc but isn't it a bit of a failed ideology? It only lasted a short amount of time and seems to be solely based around circle jerking around Hitler rather than a breathing movement.
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>>70977566
No one blames you for harboring the stereotypes of a Liberal education, friend. That's why we're making all these resources abailable to you, so you can challenge the framework of assumptions you were trained in. Either it will withstand the challenges, or it won't, but you'll be stronger either way at the end.
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>>70977566
>muh failed ideology meme
GTFO, shill. They almost defeated the entire industrialized world, and even in peace-time they were sabotaged.
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>>70977899
No no, he's welcome. We want liberals in here.
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Can I be a National Socialist without being associated to Nazism. I don't hate the Nazis or Hitler but I don't think that exact plan will work in the future
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>>70977566
Tell us what you like about natsoc, and why you thought it failed.
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Do your part.
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>>70978120
>Can I be a National Socialist without being associated to Nazism.
Of course. National socialism in each country is unique to the circumstances of that country, at that time, because it's exclsively focused on the NATION and the people who practice it. THEORETICALLY, you could even have an Israeli National Socialist, but they already have Zionism for that. If Zionism weren't international, it could arguably be compared to natsoc. But we all know it's international. Though I have met some Israelis who I would call natsoc in their zionism.
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>>70978120
Yes of course you can. But you can't fully embrace it without understanding Hitler in this day and age.
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>>70978120
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FaCHBmGWcBc
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>>70978405
>using Raelian symbol.
>Being that stupid.
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>>70978667
>ayyyy
Oh come on, funny is funny.
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>>70977948
Sorry, you're right.

>>70978386
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FiIE6PSTA5M

The Winter Help Organization from "The Case for Germany" (1938)
http://www.wintersonnenwende.com/scriptorium/english/archives/caseforgermany/cfg13.html

Christmas in the Reich - Hitler spending the holiday with close friends, Goebbels handing out presents, Goering dressed up as Santa. Good times.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMT74PZTtiU
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>>70973542
>>70973598
>>70973668
>>70973777
>>70974041
>>70974685
>>70975719
>>70976794
>>70977051
>>70977229
>>70977473
>>70977502
>>70977575
>>70977805
>>70977899
>>70977948
>>70978120
>>70978152
>>70978405
>>70978437
>>70978470
>>70978667
>>70978696

Dear Amerifags.

You are all Amerifags.
Consequently, you are very likely to be:
>Dindus
>Cucked
>Stoopid
>Obese
>Any combination of the above

Consequently, please accept my invitation to stop -- I repeat: stop -- appropriating my culture.

See here:
>>70977980

I understand my culture is intrinsically superior, but please do remember it requires a relation with the land I belong to, which is NOT your land.

Stop
Appopriating
My
Culture.
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>>70978934
No one's going to appropriate your birds, spiders, and snales m8. Your culture is impossible to steal.
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>>70978934
im not bumping your shit thread
"cultural appropriation" is freedom of speech and you can go fuck yourself
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>>70978934
Pretty sure none of us wants your that shit tier Island you call home. You sound like shitskin.
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>>70978934
>Dindus
Nope
>cucked
Nah I fuck with niggers all the time
>stoopid
Nah I'd say I'm above average
>obese
Nope, I'm ok shape

Step up your game Aussie :^)
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>>70978934
We are as European as you are, we are the sons of great men who set out to put us here. One of our greatest failures was disconnecting from our ancestors.
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For the Romanians
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>>70979729
To remind the Ukrainians now ruled by a kike.
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>>70979718
>One of our greatest failures was disconnecting from our ancestors
And yet, its so easy to re-establish that connection just by realizing the value of what we're losing, and stepping away from that cliff.

>>70979801
Are there any Ukrainebros left on this board?
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>>70979801
To remind those what National Socialism was about.
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>>70980046
>Gottfried Feder The German State On A National And Socialist Foundation
https://archive.org/details/GottfriedFederTheGermanStateOnANationalAndSocialistFoundation
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I never thought there'd be a day where Nazis represent me better than anyone else, crazy fucking world...
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>>70978934
Okay I read your shit tier thread.

Look, when Roman provinces were established in foreign lands, they brought their culture with them. You know what? It worked. Things didn't go south until the emperors got lazy, cucked, and started to diversify and integrate non-Roman culture. If you don't want to be apart of European culture, go move to a non western country. European colonies and European countries were always meant to preserve our way of life, not allow it to be poisoned by cultures different than ours.
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>>70980673
We've been the victims of a terrible deception
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Where are our Dutch brothers?
GET IN HERE!

https://youtu.be/GelHmi1ec8k
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>>70981066
Please explain what you mean by deception.
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>>70973542
bump

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ziV6JePZeB4
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>>70981228
We were taught to hate our own people and families. Earning only dubious wealth.
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Serbia, REPORT IN!

https://youtu.be/-P8RbKAsVss
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Sweden, report in!

https://youtu.be/7cH_XrmHE0I
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>>70981452
The Grammar of Self-Intolerance
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aR4MvD9IEAE

>>70981228
http://www.germanvictims.com/
https://justice4germans.com/
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>>70982571
>The Grammar of Self-Intolerance
Bowden was fucking brilliant. That man changed my life more than any other speaker or intellectual. Terrible loss.

>https://secure.counter-currents.com/pulp-fascism/

>http://www.jonathanbowden.co.uk/articles.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDGWr8kMBk8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J92f2S3E0S8
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Bampen best bread of the day


Hail Victory
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All of this lost because of some stupid fucking polacks.
In a way I'm happy to see this whole damn world going to shit.
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yfw SA had a cooler logo than SS
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>>70983337
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNHjBpsh0KQ

Kapitulieren werden wir nicht!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0hihr1DlQw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2dXWpMSXdk
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>>70983465
Hope isn't lost. Poland will redeem herself. I visited there recently. The people of all nations are always easily led astray. Look to those who share your spirit across Europa.
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Jesus, not enough of these threads these days
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>>70983914
We're going to bring them back. The board will naturally clear itself up if we all lead by example. Degeneracy is a paper tiger that burns in the light of virtue.
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>>70983914
Agreed m8
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stormfags are so autistic
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>>70984105
The new joins are ripe for the harvest. We'll be back stronger than before.
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i love this thread, so much goodness packed into one thread.
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>>70984105
What about French Charlemagne div.
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>>70984272
Honestly out of all the people to join the Axis yours should have been the first.

Your country eventually thanks to the Rothschilds was a propagator for Jewish control and the creation of Israel. The Jews abandoned you after WW2 to replace you with us, hence why you declined and we rose.
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>>70984608
Frankia, fucking report in then!
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my god german natural borders looked so beautiful after austria annexation.
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>>70984733
Why exactly is the creation of Israel a bad thing? Isn't that exactly what you stormfags say Hitler wanted? A place for the Jews to fuck off to?
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>>70985059
Matters how you do it and how they then proceed. They make trouble for others as a lifestyle.
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>>70985059
>Why exactly is the creation of Israel a bad thing?
It's not per se. Zionism being international while claiming the privilege of a Jewish-only state is hypocritical. There is no reason decent Israelis, and decent Jews in the diaspora, can't recognize this and work for change. I've been to Israel. There are good and honorable people there. Not all Jews are brothers; many Jews are just cattle to the internationalists and globalists. If only decent, everyday Jews could see past the secular religion foisted upon them over the last century. But I won't hold my breath for that. People have to look out for themselves or perish.
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>>70985059
Because they didn't just "fuck off". Because they infiltrated every facet of control just like they were doing in 1920-1930.

>In 1847 a small political crisis occurred which removed Bentinck from the leadership and highlighted Disraeli's differences with his own party. In that year's general election,Lionel de Rothschildhad been returned for the City of London. As a practising Jew he could not take the oath of allegiance in the prescribed Christian form, and therefore could not take his seat. Lord John Russell, the Whig leader who had succeeded Peel as Prime Minister and like Rothschild was a member for the City of London, proposed in the Commons that the oath should be amended to permit Jews to enter Parliament.[103]

>Disraeli spoke in favour of the measure, arguing that Christianity was "completed Judaism", and asking the House of Commons "Where is your Christianity if you do not believe in their Judaism?"
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>>70985528
Literally the same "Judeo-Christian" Zionist rhetoric that has subverted the Republican party a century later.

>Disraeli had passed near Suez in his tour of the Middle East in his youth, and on taking office, recognising the British interest in the canal as a gateway to India, he sent the Liberal MPNathan Rothschildto Paris to enquire about buying de Lesseps's shares. On 14 November 1875, the editor of thePall Mall Gazette,Frederick Greenwood, learned from London banker Henry Oppenheim that the Khedive was seeking to sell his shares in theSuez Canal Companyto a French firm. Greenwood quickly told Lord Derby, the Foreign Secretary, who notified Disraeli. The Prime Minister moved immediately to secure the shares. On 23 November, the Khedive offered to sell the shares for 100,000,000francs. Rather than seek the aid of theBank of England, Disraeli asked Lionel de Rothschild to loan funds.
>Rothschild did so and controversially took a commission on the deal. The banker's capital was at risk as Parliament could have refused to ratify the transaction.
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>>70973542
>NATSOC - National Socialism General
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>>70973542

For all the propaganda, I have a simple question, have your ancestors actually held up to that ideal, or have they just sold that ideal to the people for their own greed? Living the actual reality of the situation is an entirely different game, one that your culture, at least in its leadership, has historically denied, and that same game continues well into today's world, but in this moment it is severely backfiring.

What made the western civilization great rapidly becoming the cause of the demise.
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>>70986262
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Good to see one of these threads, I kinda moved away from NatSoc, but it brought me in when I was ideologically wanton. Saved me from being a cuck.
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>>70986147
10 years later
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>>70986262
>>70986365
I guess that would be Russia reporting in.

>>70986374
>have they just sold that ideal to the people for their own greed?
That's a painfully ironic question, isn't it. Which flag flies over the world of international finance and oligarchy today, and which is not permitted to be seen under threat of censure and persecution? Who is SELLING THE PEOPLE HOPE AND CHANGE, but delivering neither, while making the profit today, friend? You should be able to answer your own question.
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>>70978934
>checks flag
Good job lad, now run off the leaves who can't do it as well
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>>70986439
Nat Soc is babby tier early stage red pill.
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>Mfw my Grandfather fought in the battle of Berlin.
1st Belorussian Front reporting in
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>>70987471
any cool stories m8? what did he say bout the war?
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>>70986374
>The man bleeding from a knife in his back wants me to prove I won't betray him.
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>>70987224
>he's still trying
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>>70986716

But that's the thing. The whole imperialistic game was never for you, the commoners, but for the wealthy elite. Those are the very same elites that created the Western Civilization, and gave it the economic boost 300 years ago.

Now that strategy is backfiring. The strategy of deceit, plunder, and propaganda. Under the pretenses of civilizing people, your ancestors looted the world. That strategy has not changed one bit, but has merely morphed into the SJW shit show.

Which again only the elites profit from, but in this case the cost is suicide.
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>>70987471
> Stalin became immortal
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>>70987610
not an argument
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>>70987773
Yes it is
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>>70987985
not an argument
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>>70987224
>Nat Soc is babby tier
Tell us all about the "real" redpill then, friend?
>>70987723
The whole imperialistic game was never for you, the commoners, but for the wealthy elite.
Did the wealthy elite build empires? No, people built them. Are they the same empires their people built, in their name? No, they are no longer. You're asking loaded questions, but not intentionally I think. It sounds like you're being a useful idiot, as Bezmenov said.
>The strategy of deceit, plunder, and propaganda.
And yet, here you are, to tell us about why natsoc is bad. You have every resource to learn about the thing you're commenting on before you comment; Dunning-Kreuger is an avoidable condition.
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>>70988080
european traditionalism

also find me one legit source of that churchill quote that isnt stormweenies quoting each other on their conspiracy theory tier blogs
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>>70984739
is that Kaiser Wilhelm ll ?
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>>70988608
Hindenburg
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>>70988608
No, it's Paul von Hindenburg, last President of the Weimar Republic. Hitler declared him to be the Eternal President when he died in office. His rep got whitewashed, but he was basically the Kim Il-Sung of the Third German Empire.
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>>70988286
>also find me one legit source of that churchill quote that isnt stormweenies quoting each other on their conspiracy theory tier blogs
Other than the printed source quoted at the bottom that you didn't notice? This was a common sentiment at the time.

Archbishop William Temple, 1942:
>“The trend towards war is inherent in the internal economy of the modern nation. The essential evil in the ordering of European life has been the inversion of the proper relations between finance, production and consumption…”

You're just jerking off in the thread if you don't pay closer attention.
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>>70988286
>shows me old /pol/ macro
Wew lad, you must be an oldfag to have that rare.
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>>70989672
She looks like a Jew with a wig and contacts
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>>70989763
This.
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>>70987548
Nothing really. He didn't like to into detail about the war. The only thing he did tell us was that he was part of an assault team clearing out buildings in Stalingrad

>Our cause is just, enemy will be crushed
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>>70989147
This """""""""quote"""""" is from this "Foreword to the second edition (2001)" to Propaganda in the Next War (1938).
This foreword was written by David M. Pidcock. He doesn't give a source for this other than saying "as Winston Churchill pointed out to Lord Robert Boothby."
I can't find any sign that this second edition was ever published. I searched on WorldCat (searching by title or by author David Pidcock) and on Amazon.com and on BooksInPrint.com via my library.
David M. Pidcock is not a historian, he is the leader of the Islamic Party of Britain.

There's no sign of this quote in any reliable source.
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>>70988080

Who else built the magnificent architecture, the grand cathedrals, or even the soaring high sky-scrapers. The technology, culture, everything was created by the elites, in the image of their own ego. And if you're not ready to admit that, at the very least the Elites financed those endeavors. Giving the few peasants bread crumbs to appease them, and positively enforce their murderous onslaught, all the while that Molochian monster in Western Civilization consumes it all.

Just to clarify I'm not against a people feeling nationalistic pride, and I'm completely for a people protecting their own culture. It's just weird to see the same strategy that was used to rile up, and use the people by the elites in motion today, at the ground level.

The only thing that worries me is that some asshole will hijack this movement, and if people here think that they're impervious to that we are grossly mistaken.
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>>70988286
>european traditionalism
>not national socialism
What makes you think, other than meme macros, that you're talking about two different or opposite things? Were you under the impression national socialism, aryanism, or nordicism were created by militant European traditionalists?

https://youtu.be/Rtpn5QYP5Ig
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>>70989859
>There's no sign of this quote in any reliable source.
Not playing that game with you. If you have an argument to make, it won't be made playing the "go google a source I'll accept" game.

>>>/trash/
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Anyone got the ingredients for the Fuhrer cake? 4/20 soon.
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>>70990289
>waaaaaaaaaaah my meme tier source that has no basis in any historical peer reviewed article and is only circulated by stormweenies got called out

hell, even show he someone respected in revisionist circles (like david irving) that sources that quote

your """""""""argument""""""""""" right now is essentially

>if i can find some vague hearsay article agreeing with my beliefs its true

NOT

AN

ARGUMENT
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>Soldiers of all nationalities, fight for Motherland and victory!
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>>70990951
I like David Irving but have to agree with you that image is absolute retarded. Not different than a Tumblr warrior/leftist
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>>70991308
so do i, david irving is great.
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>Fight German animals! We can and must destroy Hitler's army.
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>>70991995
But why, anon?
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>>70990951
>[citation required checkmate]
What copy of the book are you looking at?
Is there a public domain copy you're reading from?
>i cant find any evidence that a 2nd edition was ever published
Ok, so you can't find evidence? And "checkmate" -- weren't we talking about something else before your euphoria made you go nuts asking for sources? Might there be any other sources that corroborate that sentiment on Churchill's part, or in any of the Allied governments of the time?

But you demand all conversation focus on this one source. Ok, so let's track it down. You said you looked on worldcat? But found no second edition? Did you HAVE a copy before concluding the source was bogus, or did you conclude it was bogus because you failed to track it down?

I tried to search the copy on Google Books, but it doesn't appear to be searchable. Any other places I might look?
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>>70991995
Wow. Straight to the trash can you gommie
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>>70992197
Sic semper tyranis
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>>70992335
>Glory to the Red Army!
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>>70992508
>>70991995
Both of you are trash, servants to homicidal tyrants.
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>>70986105
>ywn be the British PM going on wacky adventures to Egypt and sending posh midnight telegrams to prevent the acquisition of shares by French businessmen

why live
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>>70992238
right let me lay this out real clear for you

literally the only """""""""""""""source""""""""""""" for your ebin churchill quote is the prelude to the SECOND EDITION of a book published in 1938 written by the leader of the islamic party of britain in 2001, not a historian or even a REVISIONIST historian. in this prelude he merely writes "churchill looked to x and said...." and then this second edition was never even published in any real sense.

he doesnt show any actual source where this came from. its a complete meme m8.
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>>70992750
kill me now
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>Motherland is calling you!
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>>70993312
This thread is about NatSoc. Not communism. If you want to talk about that shitty system go meme up another thread.
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Not really. Nazism was a massive failure and is easily one of the worst political systems ever devised.

Fascism leads to nothing but ruin. More than six million innocent people died at the hands of the Nazis.
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>>70992773
>"""""""""""""""source"""""""""""""
There's like a handful of you euphoric anons that write this way while shitposting furiously. What's the extended quotations mean? Is that some kind of hypertext emphasis popular on Reddit or something? Anyway, so the quote is from the 2nd edition, but the second edition was never published? How do you know it came from a particular work that was never published? I was asking earlier, did you conclude it was a "fake" quote because you couldn't find the source, or because you actually determined it was never said? Seriously curious, because it does sound like a praphrase of other policies and quotes from Curchill and others at the time that ARE verifiable. It certainly fits with Churchill's M.O. from the time he working with Lord halifax to interrupt a Polish-German anti-soviet pact.

If it's actually fake, that's fine, point taken. But I'd like to actually be able to prove it's fake to others, if you'd be so kind. I can't just say some """""anon""""" sperged it at me with furious qutations.
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>>70993461
hahahaha newfag
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>>70993434
>NatSoc.
>Not a shitty system.
They couldn't even defend germany
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>>70993461
>More than six million innocent people died at the hands of the Nazis.
12 million innocent Germans died during the Allied occupation. Hundreds of millions died worlwide at the hands of the allies. Is this one of those "Ghandi was a vegetarian, but so was Hitler" arguments?
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>>70993787
>Natsoc couldn't even defend germany
It turned Germany from a failed state to full employment and able to conquer Europe in 20 years. Not sure which of the liberal democracies of the time could have fought every major power in the world and won either. Not sure what standard you're using for judging things here.

>Rodney Martin - The Economic Plan of the NSDAP
https://youtu.be/pKnFN8P21-0
>German Economic Miracle of the 1930's
https://youtu.be/YkenkfRTn4c
>Hitler's Economic Reform:
https://youtu.be/_r9Z-hTn1r4
>Social and Cultural Policies of NS Germany
https://youtu.be/bAmgGmxHOMY
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>>70993787
Dude, don't even fucking joke about that shit.

http://www.mourningtheancient.com/hell.htm

>The Commissar told me to watch and learn how to turn the Master Race into whimpering bits of misery. Now two Poles came in, dressed only in trousers, and the girls cried out at their sight. They quickly grabbed the first of the girls, and bent her backwards over the edge of the table until her joints cracked. I was close to passing out as one of them took his knife and, before the very eyes of the other girls, cut off her right breast. He paused for a moment, then cut off the other side. I have never-heard anyone scream as desperately as that girl. After this operation he drove his knife into her abdomen several times, which again was accompanied by the cheers of the Russians.

>The last of them was still almost a child, with barely developed breasts. They literally tore the flesh off her ribs until the white bones showed. Another five girls were brought in. They had been carefully chosen this time. All of them were well-developed and pretty. When they saw the bodies of their predecessors they began to cry and scream. Weakly, they tried desperately to defend themselves, but it did them no good as the Poles grew ever more cruel. They sliced the body of one of them open lengthwise and poured in a can of machine oil, which they tried to light. A Russian shot one of the other girls in the genitals before they cut off her breasts. Loud howls of approval began when someone brought a saw from a tool chest. This was used to tear off the breasts of the other girls, which soon caused the floor to be awash in blood. The Russians were in a blood frenzy.

>One girl had not undressed completely, she may also have been a little older than the others, who were around seventeen years of age. They soaked her bra with oil and set it on fire, and while she screamed, a thin iron rod was shoved into her vagina until it came out her navel.
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>>70993497
It was never published in any real libraries, book stores etc. but circulated online is what I'm saying. You can find the second edition online. Usually circulating around on conspiracy tier websites.

http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/PROPAGANDA_IN_THE_NEXT_WAR_FOREWORD.html

You can see the "foreword" there. A foreword is just essentially a prelude to the new edition. As you can see the """"""""""""""source""""""""""""""" is literally just the leader of the Islamic Party of Britain writing it in 2001 with no other source to back it up. If you search for this quote yourself this is literally the only possible thing this quote originates from. It's complete meme shit written by a Muslim politician in 2001 with no attached source and has only got popular by images like the one you posted circulating around Stormfag websites.
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>>70993905
>12 million innocent Germans died during the Allied occupation.

Due to a war started by nazis.

All this hand wringing about Geman civilian casualties is nothing more than a natural consequence of you having grown up in a world with precision weapons and limited conflicts rather than in a time of dumb bombs and total warfare. In early 20th century warfare the concept of "civilian casualties" is outmoded romanticism.

In any case, the Germans weren't innocent. They willingly allowed the Nazis to come to power, and were, for the most part, collaborators of the regime. It's preposterous to think the Germans were victims in the same way Jews, Russians, Poles etc. were.
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>>70994136
>It turned Germany from a failed state to full employment and able to conquer Europe in 20 years.

Not this "nazis were good at economy" meme again. The nazis ran the Germany economy into the ground in just a few years after taking power. Hitler had to start WW2 to steal and plunder other countrys' resources because the nazi state was on the verge of bankruptcy. As the war went on the German economy was basically North Korea tier and their people barely even had food to eat.

Nazism only benefited the rich while the average people were worse off. After the nazis came to power the real wages of workers went down while working hours increased. Management salaries and dividend payouts both rose dramatically.

Source: http://www.blacksacademy.net/content/3519.html

http://histclo.com/essay/war/ww2/tol/ger/eco/nazi-eco.html
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>>70994136
>It turned Germany from a failed state to full employment and able to conquer Europe in 20 years.

>Josef Stalin had found Russia working with wooden ploughs and leaving it equipped with atomic piles and a status of being the second superpower after twenty years of rule.
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>>70984739

What product does hitler use in his hair to get that natural look?
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Why must kike-faggots shitpost on natsoc threads...
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>>70979718
Lol white americans are rootless mongrels
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>>70994632
Jewish tears
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>>70994611
dem sources...
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>>70994686
To steer young, vulnerable minds away from the poison of nazism.
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>>70973542
ahaha funny burgers trying to copy Hitler.
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>>70994611
Exactly. Nazis were essentially always on the brink of economic disaster and the "muh economic miracle" meme is essentially just an arms bubble created by rearmament that relied on the direct conquest of other countries. Don't even get me started on the "nazis killed usury" meme.
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>>70989672
Looks like the jew girl from h3h3
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>>70994918
>nazis killed usury meme

No, please start. I'd like to hear this.
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>>70994259
>but circulated online is what I'm saying
Ah, ok. That clarifies the mystery of you quoting a book that was never published. It wasn't published in a forum you deem credible. I see. Couldn't said that in one post early on, but thanks for saying it eventually.
>Usually circulating around on conspiracy tier websites
Ah ok. That doesn't really invalidate it, that tinfags quote it. Then again, calling heterodox theories "conspiracy theory" is a common pejorative, also fallacious, since conspiracies are essentially what governments do. That's not controversial. And why would anyone regard it as """"""crazy"""""" out of hand that England had an interest in preventing the success of Germany's economic system under the Nazis? It was their policy to contain Germany at the time, that would have had at its heart an economic dimension, as all actions taken by governments do. There is no """""""""stability"""""""""" worth protecting that doesn't have a "worth".
>As you can see the """"""""""""""source"""""""""""""""
Yeah, yeah, I can see that. Thanks for pointing it out, but WHO the author is doesn't really discredit it; what discredits it is the non-existence of a quoted source, eg, looking for where it is said to reside and not finding it. If no documented source exists, then it's dubious because it's not "well courced", ie, hearsay. There are gradations of quality to sources, so you have to be very specific when communicating this to others online. Otherwise, you're just wetting your pants and screaming that your soup is too hot, and no one knows why you're so mad.
>>70994398
>Due to a war started by nazis
Every critic of NatSoc ITT this thread is still only bringing forward ad homs of those open to natsoc, anyone who followed in in the past, fallacy after fallacy. Are any of you capable of actually discussing the merits of the ideology, or are you just here to supress it with rhetoric?

I mean, there are things to criticize rationally, but you're not even trying.
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>>70994850
>implying all pots are the same in quality
>implying all pots only contain one flower
>implying all pots are not under threat of invasive weeds

leaf pls
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>>70995106
What did I say that's incorrect? Address the points or fuck off back to stormfront.
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>>70994850

> that pic
> laughinggirls.jpg

Trudeau please m8, thats enough shitposting for today.
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>>70995204
>stormfront

Too obvious, Chaim.

>>>>>>>>>>>/oven/
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>>70994734
Your bloodline dies with you.
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>>70995204
>Address the points or fuck off back to stormfront.
I stopped reading at the first error. The war had many actors to blame, saying "Germany started the war" is a derailment tactic as you Redditors are fond of saying.
>gb2sf
I never came from Stormfront, so I can't really return there friend. Not that you can make me leave anyway, so what's the point of telling me to go?
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>>70993461
>>70994398
So the Germans were the bad guys and deserved it... cause they victimized Jews, Russians, and Poles who dindu nuffin.
>>70994611
The German economy had a few facets other than military, although military spending was indeed preparation for a war. Considering the Allies were bombing all supply routes, I doubt the economy, that is, food production was the reason why people were starving.
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>>70995423
The Nazi invasion of Poland is pretty much universally accepted as the start of WW2.
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>>70995603
>invasion
>implying

Fuck up, leaf, go back.
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>>70995603
>The Nazi invasion of Poland is pretty much universally accepted as the start of WW2.
And the massacre of the Katyn forrest was universally accepted until 1995 as being perpetrated by the Nazis. History is written by the victors, but the truth tends to leak out.

> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katyn_massacre#Revelations
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>>70995081
Okay to keep it short essentially the whole "anti-usury" shit was a pillar of the early NSDAP. It was pioneered by early NSDAP members, particularly Gottfried Feder. Feder was fully behind the whole "fuck international finance" movement in the NSDAP. Essentially the anti-usury shit was something the NSDAP campaigned on, it was even Feder's lecture on the subject that attracted Hitler in the first place. It was a great campaign tool but never really came into practice.

When Hitler actually gained power in 1933, it was Hjalmar Schacht running the economy, not Feder. German industrialists like Krupp basically said Feder's crazy anti capitalist views would not work and the German elite would not back the NSDAP, so he got in Hjalmar Schacht to run the economy and Feder completely took a back seat and had no say. Schacht ran the economy until 1939 but was then fired because he began to oppose Hitler's unrealistic suicidal arms bubble.

Schacht even BRAGGED about killing the anti-usury anti high finance meme in his OWN BOOK

will respond to this post with the quotes since its too long
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>>70995081
>>70995956
"The bank supervisory authority owes its existence to a law which I instigated when I was Minister of Economic Affairs in 1934. National Socialist agitators led by Gottfried Feder had carried on a vicious campaign against private banking and against our entire currency system. Nationalisation of banks, abolition of bondage to interest payments, and introduction of state Giro ‘Feder’ money, these were the high-sounding phrases of a pressure group which aimed at the overthrow of our money and banking system. To keep this nonsense in check the president of the Reichsbank called a bankers’ council which made suggestions for tighter supervision and control over the banks. These suggestions were codified in the law of 1934, which was strengthened in 1957 by increasing the powers of the bank supervisory authority. In the course of several discussions, I succeeded in dissuading Hitler from putting into practice the most foolish and dangerous of the ideas on banking and currency harboured by his party colleagues". – Hjalmar Schacht: The Magic of Money p 49


"National Socialist agitation under the leadership of Gottfried Feder was directed in great fury against private banking and against the entire currency system. Nationalisation of the banks, liberation from the bondage of interest, the introduction of a state ‘Feder’ giro money, these were the catch phrases by which an end was to be made to our monetary and banking economy. I had to try to steer Hitler away from these destructive conceptions". – Hjalmar Schacht: The Magic of Money p 154

essentially anti usury was meme shit the nazis campaigned on but never acted on when german elite wouldnt back them.
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>>70995603
Firstly, Soviets also invaded, yet they became allies.
Secondly, Poles were also planning invasion of Germany.
Thirdly, there was a genocide against Germans due to Pollak propaganda.
Lastly, peace could have easily been restored, but the Brits wanted a fight to the death.
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>>70996014
Notice how the shills only take interest when the thread is approaching 200?
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>>70995817
>history is written by the victors

This has never been the case, especially not for WW2. All the German documents are there for you to see. There's plenty of memoirs by German generals, soldiers, nazi officials etc.

Part of why holocaust denial is so absurd is because the nazis themselves admitted to it, with evidence like numerous documents, the wannsee conference, etc.
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>History is NEVER written by the victors, especially not for WW2
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Oh shit. BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAaaaaaa.
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>>70996087
>Secondly, Poles were also planning invasion of Germany.
Proof?
>Thirdly, there was a genocide against Germans due to Pollak propaganda.
Proof?
>Lastly, peace could have easily been restored, but the Brits wanted a fight to the death.
Britain had been trying to avoid war by appeasing the Nazis for years. The invasion of Poland showed that appeasement was never going to work. Britain only declared war on Germany as a last resort.

see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeasement
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>>70995956
So, there was usury in Germany during that period? Can you provide some sources demonstrating this?

You are right, this is a long standing meme which should be corrected if it requires to be. So I can conclude that you believe it was the rearming the country which helped improve the economy?
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>the holocaust never happened
>but it should have!

explain yourselves
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I am a lazy entitled millennial

What THREE (3) literary works should I read to gain the best understanding of national socialism and fascism? Not Mein Kempf, I've already read that
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>>70996118
Please go on about documents...
Documents such as orders?
Please specify memoirs and diaries.
Do you 'believe' in the gas chambers?
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>>70996414
The holocaust did happen, and it was one of the better things to happen

Hitler had the right idea, he just didn't play his cards right
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>>70996323
>asking for proofs
>quoting wiki
The conversation we're having goes a little bit beyond the History Channel and Wikipedia, little leaf. The first three posts contain all the background you need to debate us here. Study it, come up with key points to focus on, or you're just wasting our time rehashing popular histories of WW2 that everyone has already read and decided are not authoritative. We can't argue with people who don't at least acknowledge the same basic premises: our are that the history you're quoting is dubious and incomplete. Thanks for sharing.
>>70996414
>>the holocaust never happened
>>but it should have!
No, it never happened, and it never should have. The Germans had enough honor not to do what their enemies did to them.
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>>70996414
>holohoax enables the progressive narrative against nationalism

>holohoax should have happened so the progressive narrative would never have gained traction

You fucking plebbitors are retarded.
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>>70996318
>auschwitz dentist
Ugh, do you even know why there were dentists there? Read Elie Wiesel's book. The nazis would send the prisoners to the dentist, who would pull out their teeth in order to steal their gold teeth.
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http://pastebin.com/MSvkCCRy - Redpills of Zion

http://thegreateststorynevertold.tv/

http://gaschamberhoax.com/

http://www.holohoax101.org/

http://holodomorinfo.com/

http://stop-hate-crimes.com/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-Yszp3SmxE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2dB1qavjwE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ymEKiY1UR8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44vzMNG2fZc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7y1pniYDv4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsJQXR7xCNc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNZZbCXPH6Q

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZG9NXmuCaE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDLyKSYRqXM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFDvtzwT-TU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G57GKUtWzNs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwp7tVZuXKM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIb413cZvZM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxFEtbawPCk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBXoXB3QvyI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFOGCKWHf1o

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqqWZEXw9SU
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>>70996493
>What THREE (3) literary works should I read
Read the >>70973598
fucking OP >>70973668
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>>70996493
The Case for Germany (1938)
http://www.wintersonnenwende.com/scriptorium/english/archives/caseforgermany/cfg00.html

Mike Walsh - Witness to History
https://archive.org/stream/WitnessToHistory_331/WitnessToHistory#page/n0/mode/2up

Benton Bradberry - The Myth of German Villainy

Also >>70977229
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These videos would be a bit easier to watch for me if they were just the plain content without music and other irrelevant images designed to invoke emotions.
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>>70996500
The top nazis admitted after the war what they did was wrong and themselves deserved what they got.

Goering:

>Naturally, the common people don't want war. That is understood. But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along in a fascist dictatorship. The people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger.

Speer:

>There are things for which one is guilty even if one might offer excuses - simply because the crime is so overwhelming that by comparison any human excuse pales to insignificance.

>For all writers of history, Eva Braun is going to be a disappointment.

>Hitler was the first [dictator] to be able to employ the implements of technology to multiply crime. ... The more technological the world becomes, the more essential will be the demand for individual freedom and the self-awareness of the individual human being as a counterpoise to technology. ... Consequently this [Nuremberg] trial must contribute to laying down the ground rules for life in human society.

>20 years. Well ... that's fair enough. They couldn't have given me a lighter sentence, considering the facts, and I can't complain. I said the sentences must be severe, and I admitted my share of the guilt, so it would be ridiculous if I complained about the punishment.
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>>70996323
https://books.google.ca/books?id=gLSnAgAAQBAJ&pg=PA478&lpg=PA478&dq=Polish+general+staff+1939+war+plans&source=bl&ots=b3gTTdkzF5&sig=nTvoVgKmV8sk_amJbVTbjsV_rMQ&hl=en&sa=X&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q=Polish%20general%20staff%201939%20war%20plans&f=false

gimmi a sec
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>>70996785
>complains about soundtracks
Stop watching the ones in the VIRAL PROPAGANDA section then.
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>>70996895
>after the war
>the victor writes history

Struggling m80.
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>>70996902
Nothing you posted suggests Poland was planning an offensive war. Considering the nazis had invaded other countries before Poland, having a war plan against Germany was righteous caution, which turned out to be correct.
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>>70996895
...Holocaust unrelated quotes?
->I'm not saying many innocents Jews weren't killed... but 'muh holocaust' is bullshit.
Nazis were under the control of the allies...
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I wish I could have an opinion about this without being opinion registred by the state and losing my job. :(
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>>70996323
March 1939 by Simon newman.
Der Krieg der viele Vatter hatte by G. Shultze-Ronhoff.
> https://ia800301.us.archive.org/10/items/DerKriegDerVieleVaeterHatteGerdSchultzeRhonhof/DerKriegDerVieleVaeterHatteGerdSchultzeRhonhof.pdf

See also:
>Hellstorm - Post-war Genocide of Germans
https://youtu.be/qkQ6J5F01Do
>Hitler's War
https://youtu.be/MejbBsSAP8I

It's ALL IN THE OP IF YOU BOTHER TO LOOK FIRST.
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>>70996976
>Albert Speer and Hermann Goering were victors
Australian education everyone.
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>>70996385
Yes there was usury doing this period. Schacht's policies ensured the German economy was geared perfectly towards rearmament, but it didn't stop high finance and the industrial elite from profiting. How could they stop usury when banks weren't even nationalised like Feder wanted and Germany never issued a new currency? Hitler merely continued using the same currency he inherited from the Weimar Republic.

Sources:

The Magic of Money by Hjalmar Schacht
The Wages of Destruction by Adam Tooze
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>>70997103
A franco-polish 'invasion' of Germany.
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>>70996323
http://www.wintersonnenwende.com/scriptorium/english/archives/articles/wrsynopsis.html

"Brothers, take up your scythes! Let us hurry to war!
Poland's oppression is over, we shall tarry no more.
Gather hordes about yourselves. Our enemy, the German, shall fall!
Loot and rob and burn! Let the enemies die a painful death.
He that hangs the German dogs will gain God's reward.
I, the provost, promise you shall attain Heaven for it.
Every sin will be forgiven, even well-planned murder,
If it promotes Polish freedom everywhere.
But curses on the evil one who dares speak well of Germany to us.
Poland shall and must survive. The Pope and God have promised it.
Russia and Prussia must fall. Hail the Polish banner!
So rejoice ye all: Polzka zyje, great and small!"9

->Widespread hostility towards the German minority in Poland.
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>>70974685
Siempre.
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Don't let these Bolshevik useful idiots fool you, various countries were experiencing a parallel awakening to the infiltration of Bolshevism and international Jewery.
Romania was experiencing this as well, the leader of the Iron Guard Codreanu wrote his own biography, an excellent read.


https://archive.org/details/ForMyLegionaries
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>>70997217
>hellstorm
I actually bought that book because /pol/ memes about it so much.

The author would take various quotes from memoirs about the war to give hellstorm a veneer of legitimacy, but he actually takes things out of context, and in some cases, outright changes passages to suit his agenda.

It's intellectually dishonest garbage.
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>>70997459
ONE MEXICAN NATSOC ON THIS BOARD!!
I KNEW YOU GUYS STILL EXISTED!
VIVA!
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>>70996902
before polan cannot into space, polan could not into germoney.

>kek
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