What if Europeans designed cities like American cities?
>>80592741
You would have to start with a blank slate. The caliphate is working to help you out in that regard.
But anon, we did
Then they would have a based car culture like we do instead of riding around on bicycles like Vietnamese peasants.
>>80592741
>where ?
Almost everything here is either already populated or a farmland.
You either have to demolish a city with hundreds of years of history (at minimum) or sacrifice food production. In the end the thing will cost bajillion of dollars with little or no sense for existing.
>>80592812
open the gates to the caliphate
blacks fuck your daughters while you madturbate
feel your fury
feel your hate
elevate
your mental state
>>80592903
>based car culture
it is truly based to be the bottom bitch Oil Companies and Sheik Al Been McIblewupyourtwintowers.
>>80592741
They'd need to import 40 millions africans to start with
>>80592741
then your mom would be your dad
Please no, american cities have the most unnatural city grids; you have to use a fucking car to navigate around.
American grids are also incredibly monotonous - everything looks the fucking same.
>>80592741
Then you probably wouldn't be able to rely on public transport nearly as much.
>>80592741
Unlikely to happen in a lot of areas, since our cities used to grow organically rather than being planned.
If we get a WW3 and everything goes full Dresden that might change though.
>>80593280
radial > organic > loose grid > gridiron > shit > suburban
>>80593408
>shit > suburban
kek, I wish we had suburban type grids in my mountains.
>>80592741
I hope not
>>80592741
American cities are awful aside of the oldest ones.
The whole thing looks like a giant parking with no identity or space management, I don't even speak about the awful traffic gestion or the retarded rules (like the "stops" everywhere).
>>80592741
It would be crap. America is different in so many aspects from European countries. Let's stick to our own culture and habits
>>80593043
This land is ours
you have to drive a car to do stuff in the US, LOL
>>80594946
>using public transport
Yeah hope you have fun being beat and robbed by refugees
>>80593292
Yeah but the rapefuges are already insuring that
>>80593163
We didn't import that many they just breed like roaches. Fucking ouch emu fucker that one stung a little. Have a platypus on me.
>>80595040
What refugees, lad? Do you seriously think the whole european continent is overran by them?
The buses in my city have 99% bulgarians, and 1 percent tourists
Don't get your information only from /pol/ and tout it around as valid.
>>80592741
>What if Europeans designed cities like American cities?
I'd move to the country.
>>80595040
nope, it's just smart
>>80592903
>lifting your fatass into a truck to drive 200m down the road to buy pop tarts
>culture
we just love our sustainable, walkable traditional cities.
These
>>80595509
>>80595130
>>80595197
are Milton Keynes and Letchworth, both built in the 20th century with American-style grid influences.
Pic related is Poundbury, a town also built in the 20th century, which is built along traditional/European lines.
There are plans for a vast "garden city" in the Black Country region of England (the Black Country is in the Midlands, so-called because it has a history of Victorian industry, covering it in soot and turning everything black), but I don't know whether it'll follow the low-density gridlike American path or the high-density European twisty path at the moment.
>>80592741
They can't. Eurotards waste lots of space to be efficient enough.
I need to go down the street, instead of a direct shot, I'll go in 2 fucking circles first.
>>80593280
> suburban
literally cancer
Unfortunately we have that too in some areas.
Japanese cities - especially Tokyo are the most pedestrian - bicycle friendly that I have ever seen. inb4 Venice. It is a postage stamp.
>>80592741
Oslo is a nice city
I just can't look at European-styled cities without imagining them getting bombed.
>>80592741
I would literally fall asleep on that shit.
>>80596373
I just can't look at American-styled cities without imagining them getting planed.
>>80596049
>Bad Oldesloe
Eh it's not great, but that's a bit harsh mate.
>>80595443
>200m
Like we even know what that means, learn to speak American Muhammed.
>>80592741
>cities
There are only two real cities in our entire country: New York and Chicago.
>>80596428
9/11 is better than driving on the left.
>>80592741
thank god french architects learned from paris how to make organic and functional cities and everyone copied them
Barrow in Furness.
This is a mess. Hardly even a CBD. Really depressing.
>>80596482
~200yards
>>80592741
My god that planning is a thing of beauty... notice how the squigly roads on the medium left are almost parallel to the ones on the right.
It makes me proud to be an American.
I would be really sad.
>>80592741
ITT Euros thinking the US is anywhere near as urbanized as Yurope.
>>80596428
that's car industry's fault (decades ago)
EVERY BURGER WITH A CAR
HIGHWAYS EVERYWHERE
A CAR TO PEE
what a cultural disaster
>>80596704
Litearlly look like something a child could make in simcity in 10 seconds
>>80592741
Then Norway would have a population slightly above zero due to everything needing fucking nuclear explosives to flatten out.
>>80596815
So what does that make European pieces of shit? Symmetry is beauty.
I wish we had stuck with the original architecture of our cities and towns in the 18&19th century. Cars ruined it. Anyone who says they haven't is delusional or some free market asshole. It ruins the beauty and landscape. There is nothing attractive about giant ass highways, a shit ton of cars and noise, spread out buildings (and a lot look like shit), and fucking billboards and tall signs/power lines everywhere.
@burger people
just read f'ing LEON KRIER, get an european culture about what a city is.
then come back and express your toughts.
>>80592871
Is that Karlsruhe? I have never been there, but a friend of me who lives there told me it is a "Fächerstadt", and everything is around the castle. Is that correct?
>>80596989
amen
>>80596049
Suburban is nice for people with children. The streets get less traffic than a grid, so you have fewer strangers driving through, and kids can ride their bikes and such in relative safety.
The curved roads also break your line of sight so you don't look down the street and see and endless corridor of identical houses.
It's not as good as simply living in a small town, but it's as close as you can get to that while still living relatively close to businesses and such.
>>80597011
Kek didnt read filename. What a pleb i am
>>80596989
You got a choice between efficiency and riches, or 'muh landscape'.
America wouldn't be a superpower if it wasn't for its road system
Car+oil companies destroy based cheap electric trams. Fear of nukes builds highways, rise in fast food drive thru culture and commuting roubd trips of 1 hr are standard.
Car culture has stolen the lives of millions in hours and actual lives. Wasted countless trillions.
The only benefit was that it made easier for whites to keep away from blacks
European style cities are really degenerate and shit. Density is cancer, not something to aim for.
I agree with a couple things Europeans do: preserving historic buildings, and not building high-rise monstrosities.
I favour a mesh of these two frameworks. 1 acre lots as standard in a suburban pattern, with lots of green space, good highway networks, distributed employment in business parks near highways, with a small and protected urban core, consisting of historical and heritage buildings, and NO high rises or degenerate modern architecture anywhere.
My city, Canberra, blends these quite well, although it is getting worse.
>>80596989
The worst ones are those highways that lap over one another in giant circles... confusing and ugly.
>>80592741
Have you ever been to Milton Keynes?
>>80592741
Emergent cities are constitently rated as better places to live than planned cities
>>80592741
It would be boring. + we dont have so much flat space as you(deserts everywhere). But I am going to share this city district build in 50s buy Soviet Union. The project is actualy american from before ww2, and it was stolen and copied by Russians, then this super modern for its times city was build in Cracow, Poland to show us that their occupation bring prosperity and peace.
>>80596935
Oh im sorry you´ve never had the pleasure the visit europe anon, its actually quite good from what pol makes it out to be with immigrants and whatnot
>>80592741
>all that urban sprawl
i know its inefficient and shit, but those are some beautiful suburbs
>>80596935
>Symmetry is beauty
You can take your soulless manicured lawns and plastic ornaments and stick them up an orifice of your choice.
>>80596989
Lmao you fucking luddite
I hate people like you, always nostalgic for things you never grew up with.
>>80592741
>What if europe had cities no older then 300 years old?
>>80597320
How is that close to beatiful?
>>80596321
Not really. Better than most, but it's not Amsterdam or Copenhagen. I'm jelly of those goat cities.
>>80592741
Ameribro here- bad idea.
JUST
>>80597102
World's best district, imho.
>>80597198
>Density is cancer, not something to aim for.
Get fucked.
>>80596049
what a waste of space
>>80597378
Amsterdam a shit. I prefer Utrecht.
>>80597321
would look better without the jumbled mess of houses and curvy roads.
Put that same town in a shitty place in north england with fog and shit everywhere then get back to me
>>80596815
As opposed to autistic labyrinths designed in Skylines? Grid is efficient city design. You can't get lost when you find streets you know and figure you can take it down one end of the city to another.
>>80597102
and to think people want to live in cities.
JUST
>>80597321
Looks fantastic, I'd like to visit Bergen one day.
--pre car cities
smaller walkable good for bicycle, crowded for traffic
--post car cities
good only for cars
Post car cities are dependet on oil and when that is over those cities will die.
>>80597137
I'd rather be able to enjoy where I live and be able to see the beauty of my nation than to be able to project power overseas to some tusken goat shaggers.
>>80597452
Is your favela arranged on a grid or is it more organic?
>>80592741
Why would you do that? Earth is a relatively small place, and you can retain a high quality of life by building to height
>>80597198
John Griffith was a dickhead, he had no idea on how to plan cities or towns.
>>80595751
This is why Americans are fat, they literally have nowhere to walk to.
>>80592741
Disgusting
>>80593280
In my country we use the total random system
>>80593207
Sure is summer
>>80597376
The family friendly houses, big backyards and clean neighbourhoods look nicer from ground level.
>>80597239
Milton Keynes probably attracts around 5 tourists per year, mate.
Not many people want to spend money visiting a Modernist embarrassment.
So no, methinks he probably hasn't been to Milton Keynes.
>>80597198
It's almost like you hate nature.
>>80597325
A kid sick with leukemia all of his life
>LMAO WHY DO YOU CARE YOU'VE KNOWN NOTHING BESIDES IT YOUR ENTIRE LIFE
>>80597651
traffic doesn't increase in the summer newfriend
>>80592871
wow, that looks hopelessly inefficient and the design is clearly 'inspired' by typical European tendency to worship the nobility and the state
honestly it just needs to be torn down and completely redone
>>80597569
My house is in that picture, but you'd have to look really fucking hard to find it.
>>80597495
>without the jumbled mess of houses and curvy roads
Without those there'd be a small port and 10 houses. We have a thing called actual elevation in Europe, western coast of Norway doubly so.
It's like saying Switzerland would look great if it was a parking lot.
>>80597587
There are many reasons why we are fat, this is the least among them. Even in cities where people actually take public transportation there's still obese people everywhere
>>80597494
I have only been to Amsterdam so I wouldn't know. The canals were beautiful and the architecture was fascinating and amazing in every aesthetic way. A little thought for me though.
>>80593280
Suburban is what happens when you build a city in Black and White 2 without giving a single fuck.
>>80597460
That's a moderately attractive historical centre, which I am in favour of preserving. Britain's suburbs are some of the ugliest things imaginable though (less so than commieblocks, at least).
Look at these suburbs in the Australian city of Brisbane. Do you feel at least a bit jealous, rotting away in your little British council estate?
>>80594653
Yeah we need less stops and much more round-abouts. More efficient.
>>80592741
>European Cities
>Designed
Choose one
>>80597583
Also there's the advantage of travel distance, you reduce the need for cars by building densely
Also makes cities safer by reducing the time that it takes for police to arrive
>>80597713
I'm saying you're using the landscape to show off the town. Put literally any city in that exact location and it would look amazing (save like Baghdad or w/e)
Why am I arguing city planning on the internet with strangers? Why don't I have better stuff to do?
>>80597741
I know, its mainly your atrocious and unnatural diets, but your landscape makes moving with your legs unappealing.
>>80597665
It paves over so much land all I can see is rapidly disappearing beautiful places.
It's like when you are looking at a wide open space and see it has been transected with thousands of fences and roads, it's sad.
>>80597743
I meant the houses were a little too narrow.
>>80592741
>What if Europeans designed cities like American cities?
I would fucking kill myself. American cities are designed to make everyone who lives in it miserable.
>>80596077
Amsterdam is more bicycle friendly
>>80597574
This picture forgets the fact that people need to be able to afford to live in their houses. Sure it looks nice. But not everywhere can be a work of art and still be cost effective.
All this is is pretentious trite.
>>80597587
If Brits have places to walk to why are they so fat?
>>80596077
>japan
>traintracks right next to houses
>tokyo
>designed to confused the shoguns enemies
Tokyo is cf af
>trash talking suburbs
>clearly not a kid who grew up in the suburbs listening to blink 182, greenday, offspring and sum 41
>never had a girl in highschool where youd sneak out to meet up with and make out with til the sun rose
>never had that comfy feel of knowing everyone around you, and everyone getting along great
>probably still a virgin
sucks to be you guys
>>80592871
German suck so hard the french cock
>>80597770
Suburbia is cancer.
The task that moral planners have to achieve in the 21st century is how to avoid suburbia whilst still giving people decent homes in urban areas that are not ruined by noise.
Immoral planners, the Modernists, of course, will still be happy to treat people like pawns and create vast suburban estates where people can live isolated lives with their televisions for company, teaching them to be good consumers.
>>80597198
There's a good reason why people from Canberra deny they are from Canberra.
It's where boring people go to die.
>>80597495
yeah, look at this hell on earth
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRWJzVSHBfs
>>80597584
Who is John Griffith? Do you mean Walter Griffin?
>>80596077
>image of Tokyo as a city of skyscrapers
Plz.
>>80596562
Cities that are over 50% nonwhite aren't real cities they're zoos
>>80596935
Symmetry is boring A-symmetry is beautiful
>>80597963
There are suburbs in every country. It's just not designed to be fucking boring.
>>80597963
>tfw backyard so big we could play hide and seek in it as kids
>tfw I had the best hiding place behind a bush nobody thought to look in
Totally agree with you though. People who grow up in dense urban environments don't know what they're missing.
>>80598063
Looks comfy but also easy as fuck to flood
>>80592741
There's nothing like the American freeway.
>>80597969
0-1
>>80592741
how can non-europeans even compete?
>>80597963
I live in a suburb and only know the first names of my two immediate neighbours, it's shit for a sense of community. Then again I live in Western Sydney.
>>80598160
American freeways + european city grids is my fetish.
>>80597698
>industrial progress is an autoimmune disease
>>80597321
Lol at the obvious shopped in house
.... or insanely OP hedgework
Istanbul is best
>>80598229
Is the tree circle a park or what?
>>80598017
No, don't agree. Density is cancer and goes against the very core of what it is to be Australian.
A family needs land, a backyard, some sense of harmony with nature to prosper properly.
Any lot below about one third of an acre is simply not good enough for a big white family.
You will also find family friendly low density estates to have a much better sense of friendliness, while enforced density simply creates hatred and frustration, and detracts from community.
>>80598229
They can't.
What a beautiful traditional city. How is the old center so well maintained?
>>80598229
That's a nice looking town you have there, would be a shame if some rapefugees moved in.
>>80598310
looks like some west african slum
>>80598412
You should see Mexico City
>>80598229
How racist, they haven't even blown up the church and built a mosque in its place yet....
>>80598386
Thats what the city wall is for
>>80598248
>living in poofta central
fagot.
you probably just missed out on the last golden age of that city too. shame.
>>80598139
You mean firebomb?
>>80597575
I lived 30 years in a rich commieblock. In a sort of way it was shitty because I had no sense of community at all. The only thing I miss there is the location.
https://www.google.com.br/maps/@-15.8330041,-47.9201785,3a,60y,339.57h,108.76t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sZmqKd5y9-N4jIaL4tGYXyA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=pt-BR
>grid system
>every street looks like a clone of each other
>nothing unique about them
>no charm
>street names are fucking numbers
Do people actually support this or is it just a meme
>>80598310
>two times the population of Bulgaria squished into a really large city
>>80598301
Well, it's a panorama stitch. The house is there and looks exactly like that though.
>>80598353
>i grew up in a gated community like a spoiled little boy, therefore this is the only way to grow up.
not that i disagree that more land = better, but you are pretty much a walking example of why growing up that way is not necessarily good for you. clearly it turned you into a raging faggot.
>>80598310
Looks like shit, just like everything in turkey. Including its citizens.
>>80597495
somewhere in this picture, the big dig is being reorganized and started all over again.
>>80598353
>buy some shitty Stockland House & Land package on some subdivided dairy farm
>it's a billion km from anything
>named Tranquil Lakes or something
>you get a supermarket, newsagent, bottle shop, and bakery. no culture or anything beyond staples
>bogans fill up the suburb around you, mostly tradies and their fat wives
>you immediately start complaining about the commute, despite being well aware of it beforehand
>have 2.3 bogan kids
>get old and die unfulfilled
Give me density. There's nothing of interest in estates. Your "Australian dream" bullshit was started in the 1940s when you could buy a real house with a lawn within 5min of a city.
>>80598353
You're talking to a Brit, he is most likely non white and doesn't understand the needs of whites and white families. You're correct and he isn't. A high population density is the cause for countless mental illnesses and is completely unnatural. To put things in perspective: Humans have lived in villages and tribes for most of their time on this planet, these mega cities only sprung up 200, or arguably 100 years ago. We aren't made to live like ants.
>>80598130
Well too bad there is way too many of us for that to be possible.
People that own personal property outside of their living space should be producing food.
Looks like public land is the only way you city kids will ever really get to know nature.
chinese cities are the best.
>>80598588
Rude ;)
>>80598310
>one of the holiest european city turned into slumps by mudslimes
daily reminder where islam is, civilization is destroyed
>>80598017
...cont:
Wealthy upper-middle class people can be attracted to urban areas via the use of purely residential squares like pic related which are orderly and quiet whilst still being in walking distance to the active spaces of the urban centre.
>>80598353
Suburbia is cancer. It kills community and basically places a man/family in front of a television at home, and replicates it over many square miles. The only time they leave their hosue is to go to the car. Pathetic.
There are problems with urban living, but suburbia is only the answer for people who would also be happy living in a retirement home, isolated from the world.
>>80598602
jej
>>80597911
>But not everywhere can be a work of art and still be cost effective.
It's unfortunate that society has taken a turn away from this due to the "advancement" of building materials
>live in York
>out of all the tourists who come every year, saw one American vomit whilst walking on the city wall complaining about it being too far to the next steps off
>another American shit himself for reasons I still don't quite understand
>>80592871
That looks like a baseball diamond.
>>80598534
We have free market cunts who think it is the best thing since sliced bread (((>>80598297)))
>>80598506
Nah, flood, look at the gutters, or lack there of.
DESIGNATED KEKSHEDS?
>>80592927
Good taste germanbro!
>>80598567
I didn't grow up in a gated community, they don't exist in Australia because we don't have niggers.
I grew up in a family friendly, white, low-density suburban area on the edge of my town. By no means a rich area, it was and still is a mainly middle class area full of young families.
>>80598614
The Australian dream was actually present from before federation. By 1900, the detached home had become the most common type of home even for urban Australians, while it still isn't in much of Europe. Queensland was the world's first jurisdiction to mandate detached housing in 1885.
>>80598761
The Japs think the Sea is their friend after it killed the Mongols
>>80596784
That image really made me think
>>80598353
i'd much rather live in a house from your pic than any of the dense shit cities like paris d NY
>Urban sprawl.
>Suburbs.
>You will never live in a well designed, densely populated but efficient city like Paris.
>Australian cities are terribly designed.
>One shot at life.
planed cities are relatively hard in historically rich countries such as Europe. An example of the divide would be Sydney versus Melbourne or Adelaide. Sydney was the first city, built by convicts and was planned by a retard. Melbourne and Adelaide took a planned approach and is much easier to navigate.
In Italy, England, and so on, so much historical monuments are in the way of rational building.
>>80598059
I like being able to drive a car larger than a small tampon
>>80598739
>another American shit himself for reasons I still don't quite understand
Americans literally shit themselves in public and continue to walk around like nothing happened.
How can non-european cities even compete? I mean seriously, doesn't all look more or less the same in America/ Australia?
>>80592871
Those look like my Persian homes in Sim©City® BuildIt™ :^)
>>80596989
At least i live in NYC where we have a usable public transportation system unlike the other "cities" ive been around which dont qualify for cities because their just one downtown CBD's and then surrounded by cookie cutter suburbs. where you need a car to get around.
Are there any examples of city grid designs that follow the terrain (organic)?
>>80598619
>>You're talking to a Brit, he is most likely non white and doesn't understand the needs of whites and white families.
A television? Suburban whites have one need: a television that they can watch X-Factor on. That's it. Give them a television, and they are happy.
Urban areas are for people who are open and enjoy being outside. Suburbia is for people who are just waiting until they can move into a retirement home.
>>80598999
There are a few well designed cities but the vast majority are shit.
>>80598739
What is it with Americans and either shitting themselves or getting caught short and having diarrhoea in a public "rest"room
>>80594653
Yeah if only we could all live in 600 year old buildings with half meter wide streets and uneven cobblestone sidewalks
>>80592741
Cities skyline in real life top kek
>>80593280
>Please no, american cities have the most unnatural city grids; you have to use a fucking car to navigate around.
It's not that fucking difficult.
If you need to get to 2450 17th Street, you know it's on 17th Street between 24th Ave and 25th Ave.
>>80598619
Well, most Australians are descended from Britain, and a strongly pro-white anti-density culture formed here, so the problem isn't with British people, but that particular British person.
We do need more German families, though :).
>>80598623
Perhaps in America. In Australia, particularly if not for land use restrictions designed to force people into denser, smaller, more cramped accommodation, there is no reason every family could not live on a 1 to 2 acre lot.
>>80598682
You simply don't understand Britfriend. White men require land to thrive. A family without land is no family at all, and a nation that can proudly state that all families have land is a great thing indeed.
>>80598932
It is a typical rural residential estate on the edge of an Australian urban area.
>>80597254
You know it doesn't look that bad, it's just that commieblocks look like shit especially the krushcehvka shite.
>>80598989
Totally bro I do this every time I go out. Didn't you know that in the tribe of 'Merica it's a right of passage to shit in foreigner's cities?
>>80598229
>HUR DE DUR WE NEED A CIRCLE
>NOW JUST SHOVE EVERYTHING INTO IT
>Sir, we don't have any more space in the autism circle.
>Okay, just build around it normally then... Just remember: If you build a high-density road then the devil gets your soul.
>>80598999
Do normal people buy apartments in the heart of those cities?
Small European towns confirmed for best.
Pic related.
>>80599201
>samford-valley.jpg
That's where I grew up.
>>80598999
You have to remember that a lot of people in Australia/America do not have legs that can walk more than 100 feet. If a place is not easily navigable by car, it is poorly designed, in their opinion. If the shops don't have giant parking lots in front of them, it is poorly designed. If they have to make more than 5 turns on their way from their house to the city centre, it is badly designed. If the streets are too narrow to fit a aeroplane through, they are badly designed, etc.
>>80598887
While I'm not a fan of the suburbs sounding metropolitan cities, some of the burbs we have surrounding traditional rural areas are truly beautiful. Northern NSW coast and southern highlands spring to mind.
>>80599240
calm down dude you sound like you just shat your pants right now
Is urban sprawl good?
The meme where
>"if everywhere was as population dense as New York it would only require x amount of land"
Would it be better to just disregard the skyline cap in Sydney and aim for density, leaving nature as is?
https://www.cnu.org/publicsquare/four-phases-new-urbanism-0
>>80598999
>america is the same everywhere
In the west you'll see a lot of shit because most of it was built in the last 30-40 years as quickly as possible. The old states are where it's at. We also don't like to live that close to eachother.
>>80599067
Well....we live in a unique city anon
t. California native living in Brooklyn.
>>80598229
Fun fact Attack on Titan used nördlingen as it's design inspiration
>>80599201
Australia is in the devolpment postion America was in 70 years ago.
You can learn from everyone else, and adopt sustianible devolpment before you lose what makes you country great.
>>80599332
Cool, it's a nice looking place.
>>80599407
It would be better to place an absolute and permanent ban on new high-rises and attached homes, mandating 1 acre lot sizes as the minimum for new subdivisions.
>>80599362
I DID! How'd you know? Do british people have telekinesis? BRUHHHH
>>80598753
Beat me to it. Even looks like there's an infield and pitcher's mound
>>80598989
>>80599105
>>80599240
Seriously, go on Rebbit and half of the stories are something like "so I had a XL Stacker Jalapeno Taco Burger and ended up sharting in the restroom of a shady gas station XD"
>>80599259
It's so clean!
>>80599474
Who am I kidding, half of America was already fucked over and rebuilt 70 years ago
What do you guys think about this city's layout?
>>80592871
>apartments
>not an individual house with some land for every family
Let's just admit that Americans are superior. They work in huge cities while living like we did for hundreds of years in small villages.
>>80597808
this is a common misceonception. Almost every medieval city is with intentional planning
>>80599474
What makes Australia great is the egalitarian philosophy most of us share, a direct result of this ideology is the idea that all families whether working class or rich deserve a decent life.
Australia is in many ways the direct opposite of societies like Hong Kong, where egalitarianism is pushed to the rear in the mad scramble for money, and where the poor are left for dead while the rich get richer every day.
I call for a permanent ban on new lots lower than 1 acre in size, and a new law forbidding degenerate modern architecture including glass towers.
All this said, the US has some incredible urban areas that surpass Australian ones in terms of my urban planning ideas. Charlotte, NC being one.
>>80598760
>more corners
>more businesses
this is somehow a bad thing. Non-grid cities are Africa-tier shitholes like Boston.
>>80599258
Actually yes, it's getting more and more expensive over the last years, because people are investing money there as there are nearly zero interests in many investments. So mainly students or old people rent flats there.
>>80599251
>What is a wall?
>>80598063
that pic (the one posted by the japanese guy) reminds me more of Seoul
We love our appartment towers
>>80599696
I think if anything is degenerate it is abusing your land because you don't like the way high rises look.
>>80597911
What's hard about building rectangular townhouses that aren't brutalist or modernist?
>>80599635
I like how the highway isn't the center of the town.
>>80599714
>What is a wall?
A waste of space.
>>80597574
That Street looks comfy as fuck
Is Boston worth visiting?
>>80599635
Did they get an autist with a crayon to draw what he thinks a horse looks like and then use the outlines to make roads?
>>80599714
Don't argue with the murican, he probably doesn't know what a medieval city layout is.
>>80599259
where's the diversity?
>>80599598
Thats what places look like if they are 95+% white. Truly wonderful. I just hope we can keep it that way in the future.
>>80596991
This is something that frustrates me. There was a time when Americans built cultural or artistic or fanciful buildings, but now everything is built for cost efficiency, "environmental impact", profitability and crass commercialism.
Our Cultural Edifices are corporate headquarters, amusement parks, hotels, casinos, stadiums and shopping malls. All monuments to our obsession with money, status and hedonism.
Anyone wanting to build the Jefferson Memorial, St. Louis Arch, Golden Gate Bridge or Seattle Space Needle today would be ridiculed out of the construction business and sued for triggering environmentalists.
>>80592741
ours look like a building gangbang with fuck tons of smog.
>>80599864
Tthis is the fucking capital.
A fucking piece of work.
>>80599918
Boston is a super nice city, I loved it when I went. Tons of history and nice architecture plus the people are amazing, my wife is actually a Bostonian. One of the best cities in the US
>>80596695
You mean 2 football fields?
>>80599971
Thankfully not there pham. Ribe is still very white.
>>80597808
Quite a few major European cities are designed, such as Paris for example.
https://www.theguardian.com/cities/2016/mar/31/story-cities-12-paris-baron-haussmann-france-urban-planner-napoleon
It's very different from London for example, which is just a massive clusterfuck of evolving as things happen to it, such as the Romans arriving to great fire, the Bitz and so on.
>>80592741
You're clearly missing the best city design
>grid like streets
>concentric rings around them
Navigation in this city is easy as hell you dont even need a map
>>80597770
>calls suburbs in UK ugly
>FLAG
>F
>L
>A
>G
>>80599259
not a single brown people in sight, i'm jelly
>>80599806
Detached homes sit in harmony with the land, in contrast with dense urban environments which totally destroy the land they sit on.
>>80600098
>the people are amazing
>>80600144
They are ugly as all fuck.
>>80592927
> zig zag river
>>80600145
Surely Finland has loads of towns with no brown people?
>>80599958
You were kinda spot on - there is a famous horse-shaped monument a couple of kilometers away from the city (the Madara horseman); the city planners might've taken some inspiration from it during the planning stage.
>>80600291
They're very friendly and funny if you aren't a disgusting sack of shit new yorker.
europe is the comfiest continent
>>80600292
>having neighbors that close.
I'd lose my shit, senpai.
>>80600292
jesus that's almost as bad as a US ghetto. This is a SUBURB?!
>>80599455
n-no homo im trans...
>>80599802
Americans wouldnt be so autistic over apartments if only they knew not every apartment are aging shit build 100 years ago and made of bricks.
We missed out a lot while europeans were building apartments with modern glass and steel . because the government would only give cheap mortgages for suburban houses.
Im not even in favor of having a density centric approach but it does piss me off when the government were doing favorites for one type of construction instead of having it equal funding between suburbs and high density apartments.
out of state tourists joke about how apartments are "only for niggers" and when they come they realize apartments can actually be comfy and modern looking.
>>80599932
as someone who grew up in the country and finds Brisbane "Big enough" this disturbs me on so many levels
>>80600302
Those are ramparts! Its an old defensive city.
>>80600145
Where do you live in Finland where you can see brown people all the time?
Don't tell me you're a helsinki, tampere or turku?
>>80599635
>cattle trail roads.
Learn to grid Euro cucks.
>>80600501
Very well, you are forgiven
>>80595130
where is this ?
>>80600387
Indeed.
>>80600490
Cities dehumanise people and are only fit for insects.
Brisbane used to achieve a happy medium by having extensive 1, 2, and 4 acre lot rural residential development on its peripheries and along highway routes, but the QLD government put an end to it in 2004 so Briscucks can enjoy their density now.
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>>80600198
No they don't, they transect, degrade and destroy the land they sit one, which is exponentially more land than vertical building.
Not to mention suburbs are great ecological sinks unlike cities in general.
>>80592741
Then Europe would become less White lol..
>>80600140
DFW is sort of like that.
>>80592741
This legit looks like some Sim City tier shit.
We should have threads like this more often.
>>80600664
Houston has a particularly complete hub and spokes highway system.
>>80597462
>everything has to be economic and efficient
Are you a baby boomer? Get out of here grandpa
>>80600606
I live in Brisbane currently, it's not bad
It's a city without being over the fucking top but fuck me it's growing too fast
And i swear asians operate on different frequencies
> mfw at least 3 of them just stop in the middle of the fucking supermarket isle in front of me to talk
> don't even move to the side
> just stop
Post some comfy pictures from USA. I visited last year and dident feel very comfy anywhere...
>>80592741
I didn't know we had time travel
>>80600551
Englel.
It is Milton Keynes.
>>80600335
I live in a 7000 people city. Once I've seen someone's Thai wife and one running nigger.
Last year they brought 300 "refugees" here :(
>>80600292
Posts a council estate. WEW
Flag strikes again
>>80600606
I think you feel entitled to more than anyone is worth.
Why don't everyone live in dense buildings and have tons of public land that is worth a shit, unlike suburban back yards?
>>80600292
>suburb
That's social housing.
>>80592871
Thats a baseball field
For American Urbanists, check out the work of James Howard (((Kunstler)))
His lectures, books, etc are breddy gud
>>80598753
Dammit
>>80593408
Radial is for Masonic chumps. Down with Washington.
>>80599192
This. You don't even need a map or GPS in most cases.
get on my level
>>80600803
The CBD is becoming massively more dense due to state land use policies that essentially ban most greenfield development while obligating councils like Brisbane Council to allow huge amounts of high-rise development. Really sad, because Brisbane used to be top tier as far as big cities go.
>>80600871
It's just not the same, Ameribro.
Here are some nice Mormon subdivisions :)
>>80600847
>Last year they brought 300 "refugees" here :(
Damn, im sorry :(
It is happening here too. I am afraid that soon only all our small islands will be 100% white.
Bornholm and our larger Islands are already infested :(
best cities
apart from the french ones theyre really dirty
>>80601064
fuck me that looks beautiful
You're tempting me to move there..
>>80601026
yeah and in Florida all the roads are alphabetically organized
>>80601064
Ew what are those things in the background?
> you will never be European
>>80601046
...
I mean something like battery park in NY and Saint Augustin in Florida.
Saint Augustin was alright, but there were niggers and spics everywhere which ruined it a bit.
>>80601081
Switzerland is incredibly beautiful. Your picture doesn't do your beautiful land justice!
>cities
Hello here is the Burger Street
>>80597701
This is Napoleonic city planning you dumb nigger. It's so troops can be sent in any direction at a moments notice the most efficiently.
>>80601207
Come home white man.
Denmark might soon have an australian queen.
>>80600806
My town is comfy as fuck. Few apartment block but you have to walk at most 100 meters to be on the nature. Americans will never enjoy this. A pity them.
>>80597198
Based Canberrafag. Remember to say NO to light rail, comrade.
>>80601333
[muffled noonga in the distance]
Anyway to improve my road layout?
>>80601476
Light rail is degenerate, but I'm actually hoping Labor wins this territory election just so there's an even bigger backlash a few elections later.
They're skull-fucking this city with numerous new commie-block high-rises going up, along with huge restrictions on greenfield development that have driven up home prices.
>>80601333
[DIDGERIDOO AND PETROL FUMES INTENSIFY]
>>80601333
>river
>>80601461
that horse has a dick face
>>80592741
gross.
>>80601372
When even European squatter streets look better than an average American street. LEL.
>>80601461
Same, I think they would love it.
>>80601461
Is there much diversity in Slovenia?
>>80601568
The land tax revenue must flow.
Maybe we go balls deep and bring in the Greens for a term, flush the leftists out of our system.
>>80597844
>>80597741
>>80597587
All true. I got so skinny so fast both times i lived in Europe.
Currently have the worst body composition I've ever had (fat by euro standards, not us)
It's just really hard to find time to burn calories on days you don't have time for a full workout when you have to drive hours a day every fuckin place and make a homecook meal with ingredients that aren't bullshit
Not making excuses but damn i miss eating fatty, delicious Spanish tapas and still being skinny af
>>80601568
At least other Australians get it
>you will never live in small town USA
>>80601129
>Bulgaria
This is a new shitty development that are a dime a dozen in Australian cities.
>>80601188
Sand Dunes
>>80601081
Damn it feels good to be from Switzerland
>>80601539
Need more roundabouts.
>>80597901
Obviously you've never been to Tokyo.
>>80601823
I don't know if Canberra can be saved. If I'm going to stay here I'll buy some land in neighbouring NSW and commute to Canberra.
I'm not interested in living in one of these little dog boxes the ACT gov is so keen on pushing.
>>80601381
The city is 100 years older than Napoleon you stupid fuck.
>>80599259
>tfw i see niggers on the streets of my parents home town with around 7000 inhabitants.
>>80602259
Thats pretty good! I have heard that Maine is great but i havent been there myself.
>>80594653
Your English is pretty good Frenchie, but remember the English term is "parking lot" not "parking".
>>80601539
I would add a street a highway that decompresses the from the right (boing above the outer rectangle and going down after).
>>80601700
That horse gets painted in to zebra from time to time. Nobody knows who's doing it, but kudos to him it's always a great laugh :D
Also we are a City of Peace recognized by U.N. and this guy was born here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62-A1YcX9gU
Also this guy for whom all Americans should be grateful to us:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herman_Potočnik
Celts lived here, Romans had a postal town here, Turks invaded us etc.....
Ok enough shilling for my town :)
>>80600450
>apartments being comfy.
>Can't BBQ.
>Can't make too much noise or a complaint is filed.
>Places typically have thin ass walls so you hear people walking around all day.
>>80592741
>What if Europeans designed cities like American cities?
Then they wouldn't have half the problems they currently have.
> inb4 "hurr durr, muh urban sprawl. BRB, heading to my rotting row-house with the 10 square foot yard to force my fiance to get another abortion because rent/food/whatever is too high and (((overpopulation))) and stuff. Oh, all that unsettled land over there being, at best, uneconomically farmed? No, we must fight development of that since cheap houses and freedom from this urban shithole is bad for the environment. Besides, only rich people deserve to live like humans, or live at all."
Sometimes things would be a lot better if Hitler built the bomb and had the balls to use it(which he wouldn't because he knew urban areas make the best puppets). At least then Europe would become something other than a lame dog begging to be put to sleep.
>>80601799
Dunno what you mean by diversity. In a 4chan sense of diversity: there are a few Albanians living here: bakers all of them or food shop owners, but they don't do anything bad. 5-10 blacks at most : 1 ex handball player, one little family. The majority of foreigners who live here are from Balkan: Croats, Serbs, Bosnians and Macedonians... but their kids all integrated and all of them consider them self Slovene. When we were young there were fights between us, but that went away. War is long time away. Nobody here cares anymore.
>>80598353
you need trees around the house...and lots of
>>80596093
what the fuck
>>80602601
Ehh ment for you annon
>>80601754
>>80601372
so 'vibrant'!
New thread:
>>80603277
>>80603277
>>80603277
>>80601794
And you also have a lake(or is that a sea)! I envy you that. I have to ride 40 minutes to get to the first lake(in austria) although is worth it
>>80593030
>You either have to demolish a city with hundreds of years of history (at minimum) or sacrifice food production. In the end the thing will cost bajillion of dollars with little or no sense for existing.
1) Fuck your old cities and their "history". Your people have quit giving a shit about that stuff BECAUSE of your urbanism. Do you think the Africans will give a damn about Duke Fatface the 3rd's statue?
2)Medium/high density urban setting are deadly. Nuclear weapons do far more damage when the targets are all stacked and packed.
3)Those cities harbor more than just "history". They are the dens of corruption, vice, misery, wasted lives, and stagnation. Their very existence is proof that they were built by men who said "fuck the past, lets build something new over this villiage/town/farm and make life better"
4) No one will remember your "history" when those population sinks you have, opposing the political/economic competition from the population sources, destroy your small towns, farms, and villiages(or integrate them with foreigners) before "enriching" your population sinks until your "history" is like that of the Native Americans: only to be "appreciated" by apathetic conquerors who don't care.
Face it fucker: Bulgaria is weak and more useful to Germany/France once the Bulgarians are gone.
>>80598063
this looks comfy af desu
We already did it here in Milton Keynes and it's just created the same problems US cities have.
>need a car to get everywhere because of distance between places
>public transport doesn't work properly because of grid layout
>estates become isolated towns-within-a-town
>ghettoised estates divided by up ethnic group
>ones around the town centre get blacked
>middle class whites overrun further out estates and push house prices and rents out of reach for working class whites
>everywhere else is whites that want out and can't afford to
>schools 42% non-white
>shopping centre following identical cycle of prominence and long drawn out decline overrun by nigs happening to once great shopping malls in the US
>everything looks the same, everywhere has a local centre, everywhere has identical chain shops/restaurants
On the upside there's more open green spaces here compared to anywhere else I've been in the country and a really strong local economy/abundance of jobs but that's it. I want out to somewhere more rural and more white. I've had to grow up with the place being completely poz'd from an all white town to on a fastrack route to being the next London/Birmingham/Leicester diverse no-go zone.
>>80601064
it looks so frigid and clinical.
>>80601372
Is that west coast?
>>80603471
That's not an urbanfag, that's a pikey.
>>80592812
>You would have to start with a blank slate. The caliphate is working to help you out in that regard.
No they're not. That's the LAST thing Muslims want. Muslims just want to control the cities and have the pre-existing taxes become the Jizya while limiting urbanization of natives for fear of them converting, dying, or ending their family line with a drug overdose in an ally, an abortion clinic, or a rope tied to their ceiling (((apartment's))) antique ceiling
Muslims want to occupy the population sinks while having the non-Muslims occupying the population sources. (((democracy))) made this possible, albeit for (((different reasons)))
>>80602993
Cool, So its kinda like Poland minus the Ukrainians. I'm going back to Poland for a little at the end of September and I might visit your country.
>>80593280
>you have to use a fucking car to navigate around.
Oh, no, freedom of movement is so horrible! Lets be cattle instead.
>>80593408
Rural > Suburban > grid > everything else
>>80602247
Maybe but have you ever been to Amsterdam? Tokyo didn't even make it on the list here http://www.wired.com/2015/06/copenhagenize-worlds-most-bike-friendly-cities/
>>80594804
>Let's stick to our own culture and habits
Yeah, right. You can't even stay independent without us. Your "culture and habits" are worthless because they were mere cartoons of what they once were and can never again be.
>>80604150
If we nuked Kyoto, Japan would've become much better.
