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>RETARDED BREXIT PROTESTERS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Q3Q5hHeb6k [Embed]

>FASCIST MAY FORCES TELEGRAPH TO PULL ARTICLE TELLING THE TRUTH ABOUT HER RECORD
http://order-order.com/2016/07/02/telegraph-pulled-article-critical-theresa-may-campaign-pressure/

>ANDREA LEADSOM: "FREE MOVEMENT WILL END", VOWS TO TRIGGER ARTICLE 50 "AS SOON AS SHE BECOMES PRIME MINISTER"
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-politics-36570120
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/07/03/tory-leadership-andrea-leadsom-says-she-can-be-the-new-margaret/

>THERESA MAY: TRADE WITH EUROPE "MUST BE A PRIORITY", WILL NOT INVOKE ARTICLE 50 BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR
http://www.itv.com/news/2016-06-30/theresa-may-launches-tory-leadership-bid/

>LEAVE.EU BACKS LEADSOM FOR TORY LEADER
http://www.bristolpost.co.uk/arron-banks-and-nigel-farage-s-leave-campaign-back-andrea-leadsom-for-tory-leader/story-29466185-detail/story.html

>TORY LEADERSHIP ELECTION: SENIOR MPS PLANNING ON FORCING REMAINER CRABB INTO SECOND PLACE AND THEN CONVINCING HIM TO LET REMAINER THERESA MAY RUN UNOPPOSED
http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2016/07/senior-tories-plotting-bring-quick-end-leadership-contest/

>KEKWELL "WILL NOT STAND FOR LEADERSHIP AFTER NIGEL FARAGE"
https://twitter.com/daily_politics/status/749942344498151424

>SCARED ANGELA EAGLE: "C-CORBYN PLEASE QUIT"
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-36693835

>CHILCOT: "BLAIR WON'T BE PUT ON TRIAL FOR WAR CRIMES BUT SOLDIERS MIGHT BE"
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/07/02/outrage-as-war-crimes-prosecutors-say-tony-blair-will-not-be-inv/
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praise tengri
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Results of second round in an hour.
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>>80064045
>11. Bacon Bukkake (japanese edition)
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>>80064045
>Put away the rhetoric and get around the DJ table
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>>80064185
good post
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>>80064281
>Put away the rhetoric and get on the dance floor

FTFY
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>Angela Eagle - "I have the support to run and resolve this impasse and I will d-do so if Jeremy doesn't t-take action soon"


Eagle's own constituency party overwhelmingly backs Corbyn and tells her to drop her challenge

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/angela-eagle-s-constituency-branch-issues-statement-supporting-jeremy-corbyn-as-labour-leader-a7124241.html
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As of now the pound is plummeting again. It rallied to 1.30$ bur now dropped 0.5 cents expect the pound to drop 1.5 cents by the end of the day

>Is it time to panic yet
No. Brexitters are still in complete denial. Their view on this swings between saying it will bounce back or it will sink further and benefit our exports. But as we all know, Brexitters are economically illiterate. A few days ago they were showing the rise in FTSE100 as a sign of our success because they don't realize that index is made up of companies that get most of their revenue from foreign markets. A weak pound will not do any good to out exports because we have almost no natural resources. We rely on a strong currency to import raw material. Any competitiveness that would be gained from a drop in the pound is offset by the fact the products we manufacture will become more expensive to make.

Fun fact: if the Pound drops to 0.9 EUR (it most likely will by the time the new PM takes office) our economy will be officially smaller than Italy's.

There is also a very high chance we will experience double digit inflation. We will be the first developed economy to achieve this since the 1970s. When inflation starts to creep in and eat peoples' income, then it is time to panic because we will enter a vicious cycle of eroding income and sky-rocketing government spending/borrowing
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>>80064045
>10. Just Give Me a Chance
Poor Ed ;_;
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God the swedish cunt has returned
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DESELECT FAT CUNT.
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African Diplomacy:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TaJSMoC2oI
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>>80064447
Fun fact: Britain became uncompetitive in the manufacturing market due to over valued currency, Post war Germany became Europe's strongest economy by taking advantage of its devalued currency
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>>80064498
Quick post nationalist girls
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>>80064447
It's this pasta posted by the Swede again.
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>>80064653

He's got to do something whilst Jamal fucks his womenfolk.
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>House of Lords is having an icecream party out on the terrace while I'm stuck in class too tired to pay attention
What level does my runescape character need to be to get icecream instead of doing work?
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What will happen to London 20 years when whites in the city only will be 20% of the city population

Will tourists still go there?
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>>80064399
>I should be leader
>Jeremy cannot win a general election
>but I explode into treats when I have a little squabble

oh angie
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If you remove Scotland, Norn Iron, London and Gibraltar, turnout was 75% and Leave got 56%.

Give them all independence except London who can STFU, and I'd call that a happy nation.
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>>80064447
again
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>>80064572
This is something a lot of people overlook.

A lot of Thatcher's "necessary economic reforms" were a result of Oil helping the value of the pound.

I forget if it was Healey or Callaghan, but one of the Labour guys from that time mentioned that they set up all of the infrastructure for the oil, but were out of office by the time the country saw any benefit from it.
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>>80064447
"It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of heaven."

"The whole secret of existence is to have no fear. Never fear what will become of you. Depend on no one. Only the moment you reject all help are you free."
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>CHILCOT FTW
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>>80064799
More people voted to remain in the united kingdom than voted to remain in the eu.
The SNP can go fuck themselves.
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>mfw remainians have no arguments and so they ad hominem the entire working class of Britain and a fair percentage of its middle and upper educated classes

>mfw remainians at work praise Juncker for handling the situation 'maturely' and being 'really good' about dealing with Farage

What lovely people they are
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>>80064754
The plan is to crash the economy with no survivors so all the muds leave when the gibs dry up. Phase 2 is Deutsche Bank.
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>>80064549
oh god that was embarrasing and hilarious. oh man
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/07/07/jeremy-corbyn-attended-meeting-of-his-local-allotment-associatio/

Reminder that Corbyn survived the coup by planting turnips
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>>80065131
Yes they do

The pound is becoming like the zimbabwean dolllar, which means it's literally a meme currency. All brits will be 20% poorer because of thise idiots who voted brexit and guess who gets hit the hardest those who are the poorest won't be able to put food on the table and expect a lot more people to use foodbanks predictions are that by 2020 there will be 5 million foodbank users and the british gdp will be lower than spains gdp.


Thanks a lot brexiteers, you all are morons
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>>80065131
>you voted leave because you're a rich banker taking advantage of us working people
but I make minimum wage
>oh you poor soul, you must've understood what you were voting for
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Leadsom is to Thatcher as Miliband was to Blair.

This tory leadership shit-fest is the ultimate come-down after the ecstasy of brexit.
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>>80065250
"It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of heaven."

"The whole secret of existence is to have no fear. Never fear what will become of you. Depend on no one. Only the moment you reject all help are you free."


>atheists who care about money are angry at brexit
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>>80065131
its a suddenly everyone loves and has heard of Juncker episode, the ride never ends
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>>80065250
I noticed you didn't respond to
>>80064572
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>>80065174
>"This year the maize has done very well. It’s been a great year for maize."

OR WAS HE SAYING A GOOD YEAR FOR MAYS?
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>>80065250
The Zimbabwean dollar is hyper-inflated. Our inflation is at 0.3%.
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>>80064997
>More people voted to remain in the united kingdom than voted to remain in the eu.
Largely irrelevant given things split down different lines (i.e. at least some no voters will have voted remain and changed their minds, and some yes voters will have voted for brexit.)
Better Together wrought this for themselves when they used the EU membership as a point of attack in 2014 while knowing full well we were going to have a referendum on this (fuck off, Ed Milliband was never going to be Prime Minister.)

Better Together, regardless of your opinion on the constitution, was a fucking godawful campaign. They let the SNP take independence from <30% at times to 45% support. Darling thought they'd need at least 60/40 to put the issue to bed and he managed to piss it away.

The Remain campaign proceed to demonstrate that they had learned almost nothing despite not having a massive lead to piss away.
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So realistically what's the most that can happen to Blair now?

Taken to court for misconduct in public office and finally named and shamed by Corbyn?

If he's still a Labour member, could Corbyn kick him out if he really wanted blood?
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>>80065250
>it's this fucking swede again with his copypasta

Do you ever stop and think about why you value economy over freedom, liberty, happiness, national pride?

I WANT the economy to go to shit. Prosperity is a total meme. If you prosper, you attract millions of immigrants, and then they ruin the prosperity. See: London, Stockholm.

If the economy is literally ruined and we all get poorer - great. I welcome it. In fact, I desire it. Literally the only issue in politics for me right now is immigration, specifically, lowering it. There is literally nothing more important to me. If I have to downsize, or I get fired, or if I take a pay cut. Fantastic. As long as immigration goes down.
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>>80065144
Problem is that when economy has crashed, the government will put muds first and let the native brits starve.

That's how evil the elite is. Expect nothing else.
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>>80065493
They write "unsatisfactory" if he uses them as a reference
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>>80065542
poverty and the reemergence of winterchan will cleanse this isle
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>>80064572
>Fun fact: Britain became uncompetitive in the manufacturing market due to over valued currency, Post war Germany became Europe's strongest economy by taking advantage of its devalued currency

No it became uncompetitive due to tacthers policies according to sources if the uk never joined the eu. The uk econmic growth would be comparable to argentinas and new zealand econmic growth, which means a gdp per capita lower than spain. The eu helped britain a lot whether you like it or not and the uk manufacturing has been on the decline since the 60s and it's now rising due to the acces to the singlemarket. And also have fund being 50% poorer and you"lö be making stuff for the chinese middleclass
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>>80065348
Give it time, leaving the EU means that future governments have the power to correct mistakes made by previous ones.

>>80065542
>>80065482
>>80065446
>>80065400
Don't reply to le troll patrol.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/eu/9845442/EU-to-set-up-euro-election-troll-patrol-to-tackle-Eurosceptic-surge.html

>>80065484
>they used the EU membership
Exactly as meme tier as this Swede posting. No one voted to remain in the UK because they love the EU. Another independence campaign will fail and just waste time.
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>>80065542
This lad gets it, the eternal Swede will never understand it though.
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>>80065852

Just because they might have been useful in the past, doesn't mean they're still useful now.
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>>80065435
Amazing isn't it. Truly amazing how Orwellian and brainfucked our society has become.

>>80065345
Classic Islingtonite Upper-middle class argument. They live in the whitest areas in England and Scotland, then call those who live on the ground racists. Classic.

>>80065722
Gods' Will. I hope all the fucking Remain shitheads can go live in Sweden already, then daddy Junker can protect them with his drunkard decadent overpaid arms.

>>80065852
>blah blah blah I'm suddenly an expert on international economics the single market the single market the single market nobody can ever have fun or money if they're out of the single market bla bla PLEASE DONT LOOK AT THE USA CANADA OR EAST ASIAN COUNTRIES THEY DONT EXIST REEEEEEEE GET BACK IN MY MULTICULTI HELL

I'm loving every laugh, Sven
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>>80065542
Totally agree.
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>>80066039
He's more likely to be the eternal Somali.
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>>80065937
>No one voted to remain in the UK because they love the EU
Except perhaps European citizens who got a vote based on residence.
Or those who, while not concerned with the EU itself, have had their opinions changed by what the Brexit vote represents to them.

Another independence campaign failing wouldn't be a waste of time at all. It would remarkably stabilize British politics by kicking independence into the long grass (or possibly to death.) or granting the inevitable.
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>>80065937
>No one voted to remain in the UK because they love the EU

Pretty much this.

The referendum might as well have been
"Can you be bothered to leave the EU?"
yes - 52%
no - 48%
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>>80066129
Well yeah that sort of goes without saying.
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>>80065542
>I WANT the economy to go to shit

So you want millions of people to lose their jobs due to bigoted narrowminded leavers. Guess who will be hit the hardest the youth and the poorest. And that will lead to a huge brain drain in the uk, which in turn leads to the goverment importing more labor from other countries due to low birth rates. The only good thing about brexit is that london and the uk house prices will fall and all the bigoted kippers will be happy about london becominf more white due to muslims and indians leaving the city searching for a better place
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lammy on TW tonight can't wait for THE NEIL to destroy him
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>>80066244
Oh god and Molly's on, going to be a right cracker.
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>>80065852
Over valued currency makes goods less desirable, that's just a fact Sven
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>mfw Scottish independentists think that they will be welcome in Europe
>mfw they pride themselves on being "European", but Europeans don't even know who they are
>mfw they think we know or give a single fuck about the "Auld Alliance"

I hope that they get independence just to see them crushed and demoralised when Europe spits in their smug faces. Fuck Scotland.
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>>80066133
>stabilize British politics by kicking independence into the long grass
No, it just sets the precedent for having a referendum every time the SNP disagrees with Westminster.

>Except perhaps European citizens who got a vote based on residence.
No one has said EU people that are already here would be removed, this isn't an issue.
>Or those who, while not concerned with the EU itself, have had their opinions changed by what the Brexit vote represents to them.
Scotland would still not be able to get into the EU anyway. It won't be a choice between EU or UK. It would be a choice between UK with no EU or no UK and no EU.
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Thanks Wales.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cnP-nV_pydM
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>>80065345
> voted leave because you're a rich banker taking advantage of us working people

Have you seriously heard people say this? The bankers wanted us to leave? Seriously?
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Remember what the Swede said yesterday, if your currency is worth less that means you're poorer than countries where theirs is worth more.

Keep to your script moron.
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>>80066215
On all levels except physical you are a fucking nigger.
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>>80066398
>a Frenchmen bantzing scots this hard

Be honest mate, are you on holiday
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>>80066398
England and Wales join the Anglosphere/Commonwealth Alliance, and Scotland is left alone in the world sitting on a pile of worthless oil.
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>>80066486
yes, despite the bankers saying stay in, i have heard people doublethinking and spouting off that Leave voters are capitalist bankster fuck-o's
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>>80066398
>I hope that they get independence just to see them crushed and demoralised when Europe spits in their smug faces

Same here my Franco friend, I wasn't too fond of the idea of them leaving the first time around but I'm praying they do it next time. Would be fucking hilarious watching them flounder around aimlessly.
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>>80066571
>except physical
Doubt it.
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>>80064754

>implying that hasn't already happened
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>>80066486
Various things from my gfs Facebook friends, Rich Bankers are just the goto villain for these people
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>>80066486
I have. I've even heard leave being called a capitalist coup.
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>>80066215
It can't get any worse for them, they don't care. The midlands and the north look like a post-industrial ex-Soviet wasteland. Elites built ivory towers in London and fucked the rest of the country over. Now it's time to pay the price.
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>>80066215
Your crystal ball is astonishingly accurate, I mean its amazing, you know exactly what will happen in one year, in ten, in twenty... how do I see the future too?

>Prosperity makes people have more babies
Au contraire, you are an idiot and uneducated if you think this. Prosperous nations have less babies on average with a consistency that is almost comical - please shut your mouth, you know nothing, Jan Snu.

>bigot
Go back to rebbit/facebook. Meme word. Means you value your own culture, race, or homeland. Not an insult to me. Thanks for the compliment.

>millions of jobs lost
What, in EU funded cancerous uni programs, social scences, and other shit that feeds into the multi culti agenda? Sounds good to me. You've just been completely fucking brainwashed since birth into being a slave for your (((economic))) overlords.

>muslims and indians leaving the city searching for a better place

So exactly what I wanted? Great, I hope they go to stockholm and ruin your shit even more, cuck.
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>>80065629
And it's in that situation that the proles shine and put the fear of God back in to these people.
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>>80066478
nice.
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>>80066486
I've heard comments and even articles on the Guardian and other leftist rags that brexit is the will the elites and that voting remain was going against it.
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>>80066539

>Remember what the Swede said yesterday, if your currency is worth less that means you're poorer than countries where theirs is worth more

No I didn't. I said of your currency is worth less than that means you economy is poorer, which could lead to britain having an economy that is worth less than the french economy. And as of right now it is due to the value of the pound sterling, but if the brits prints money they could overtake france again
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>>80066726
I like your flag.
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>>80066708
>Lefties demonize and create a boogyman out of bankers
>The vast majority of the people in charge of banks are Jews

OY VEY
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>>80066922
No you said we'd be poorer if the pound goes lower than the euro and that we'd be poorer than italy because of the above. You were called out on it and got real quiet.
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Prior to 1997:
>nonwhite migration had been running amok for 4 decades

Blair comes to power
>bombs the shit out muslim countries and kills hundreds of thousands of them in the Iraq war
>starts importing millions of E.European redpilled whites

Based Blair
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>>80067047
this is why corbyn wants to leave
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>>80066486
>This narrative was sponsored by Goldman Sachs
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>>80067125
nice meme xD
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>>80066215
I don't think you realise just how hopeless vast swathes of the population feel.
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>Prior to 1997:
>>nonwhite migration had been running amok for 4 decades

>Blair comes to power
>>bombs the shit out muslim countries and kills hundreds of thousands of them in the Iraq war
>starts importing millions of E.European redpilled whites

>Based Blair
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>>80066815
The north does not look like a industrial shit hole you moron stop reading the dailymail and the sun as news sources on the north. Btw inb4 you post pictures council estates it's only the uk who has that problem with ugly buildings in europe all rich western european countires have council estates even sweden. But due to brexit the north will end up decaying even more

Pic related:Manchester
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>>80066215

This is where people i live work.

Literally wooden shacks in a market that has had no work done on it since the 60s. Roof leaks so much its basically not there.

Worst case scenario: Shack gets soggy
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>>80066602
In a way. I'm usually on /sp/, but seeing the pro-EU/anti-democracy demonstration made me so mad that I have started to genuinely hate Scotland, and have come to /pol/.

I very seriously wish them to collapse and burn. When they were talking about being Europeans instead of British it was funny at first but now it's enraging.

>>80066654
Even we will be out of the EU by the point when they are able to join. Think about that. What a sad joke, a country that wants to commit suicide so desperately.
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>>80066452
>No, it just sets the precedent for having a referendum every time the SNP disagrees with Westminster.
No it doesn't.

First of all because Westminster always ultimately has to grant those referendums, and second of all because two losses in such short order would cause chaos in the independence movement. Not to mention it would make "neverrendum" a valid criticism. (Also, getting the Greens to back a third referendum would be next to impossible: They are wishy-washy as fuck.)

>No one has said EU people that are already here would be removed, this isn't an issue.
They don't have to be removed to be pro-EU, or to be put off by Britain backing the side that (fully legitimately, I might add.) used immigration control as a point of argument.
>Scotland would still not be able to get into the EU anyway.
Let me guess, le Spanish veto meme? Or perhaps conflating Euro entry criteria with EU entry criteria?

1. Spain's position is based in constitutionality. If Scotland declared independence unilaterally against London's will, Spain would indeed veto it (but nobody would take such a declaration seriously anyway.), if however London recognizes Scottish Independence then Spain will do likewise because that would signal that Britain considered the secession constitutional under UK law. If Spain vetoed the accession of an independent Scotland which was recognized by London, it would cause absolute chaos in Catalonia by demonstrating Spain doesn't give a fuck about constitutionality and just wants to refuse them a vote come what may.
2. One can join the European union without meeting the criteria to join the Euro. While one has a notional obligation to join the Euro, one can opt out of this by refusing to join ERM2 as Sweden has done. The EU contains many Eastern-European countries who similarly don't meet the criteria. This is also, incidentally, why Scotland will never use the Euro.
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>>80067125
Muslim countries like Serbia?
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>>80067125
He essentially paved way for the creation of isis by destabilizing Iraq, and now we have the migrant crisis because of that.

Based Blair indeed.
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>>80067338

Manchester town center*

Lol every city looks great because thats where all the wealth is you fucking mong. The places where like 75% of people live are shit holes.
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>>80067125
THINGS
CAN ONLY GET
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>>80067338
>pic related: a cherrypicked gentrified area of an affluent northern city

Yeah man, Durham is a completely accurate example of the North East too, it's all like that, honest.

I'm not even supporting what he said but your post is full of shit
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>>80067338
Cherry picking

Bradford, Yorkshire
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>>80066825
you let your country be taken over by somalians and then watch as the girl you like becomes obsessed with the BBC
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>>80067338
5 minutes travel and you'll be in one of the most deprived areas in Europe.

t. Someone who lives in the nice bit.
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>>80067398
I see mate, your English is very good for a Frenchman. Normally French posts are a bit broken
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>>80067398
>pro-EU/anti-democracy demonstration made me so mad that I have started to genuinely hate Scotland
Even though it was in London, which also voted remain?
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>>80067410

>First of all because Westminster always ultimately has to grant those referendums
Sorry - It just sets the precedent for calling for a referendum every time the SNP disagrees with Westminster.

>Not to mention it would make "neverrendum" a valid criticism
It already is. It's only been about 2 years. Hardly "once in a generation".

>le Spanish veto meme
More than just the Spanish have told her to fuck off. Up to this point, iirc, Denmark, France, the Czech Republic and Hungary have.
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>>80067617
That is also cherrypicking

Pic related: Bergsjön,Gothenburg,Sweden where people live 9 years below the life exptancy of sweden
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>>80067398
Good luck with Frexit friend. I think it'll all fall apart in the next eurozone crisis, due soon. See you on the outside.
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>>80068114
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which one of you faggots did this?

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/parliament-on-lockdown-after-suspicious-package-delivered-a3290576.html

Parliament placed on lockdown after 'white powder and racist letter sent to Muslim peer'

Islamic peer who hates the jews, killed a mna with his car and is from rotherham

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazir_Ahmed,_Baron_Ahmed
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>>80067552
>White: Irish Traveller

I don't think so.
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>>80068032
>It just sets the precedent for calling for a referendum every time the SNP disagrees with Westminster.
And Westminster can tell them to get to fuck.

>It already is. It's only been about 2 years. Hardly "once in a generation".
Once in a generation was always a meme statement. It's a "it's not likely" not a "we promise!"

The SNP genuinely wanted a remain vote, you know. They know full well they really can't afford to lose another referendum, they wanted to push things back until at least the next General Election.
>Up to this point, iirc, Denmark, France, the Czech Republic and Hungary have.
Almost all of this comes down to refusal of special status for Scotland so that it can stay in the EU without leaving the UK.
In other words a "snub" to Sturgeon that actually justifies the thing she really wants: Independence.
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RESULTS SHORTLY LADS
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>>80068114
That was my point idiot
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>>80068236
>Hey Rabbi, whatcha doin'?
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Lads what is the actual truth and rules regarding Scottish currency if they vote for independence from the UK?

I've been told they wouldn't be allowed to keep GBP and something along the lines of that the most they'd get is something pegged to our central bank or currency - and I've also seen that they'd have to adopt the Euro.

What's true? And what would it mean for any outcome?

And what the fuck would happen to the Bank of Scotland?
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>>80068236
inside job
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>>80065542
>i-i don't care about the pound/economy/anything i just want to see the wogs burn mom, don't stop me
The fucking state of you mongs, kill yourselves
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>>80067410
Spain just doesn't want to encourage separatism. Legal arguments about constitutionality aren't going to fly with the separatists who will use it as a boon. They won't want to set a precedent of secessionist movements successfully breaking off and getting support from the EU. How much more clear do they need to be about it before you believe them?
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LEADERSHIP ANNOUNCEMENT STREAM WHERE
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>>80068149
Best country balls ever!
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>>80068236
>white powder

Perhaps it was soap powder. Perhaps the sender was suggesting that our Muslim friends do something about the fog of BO that constantly surrounds them.
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>>80068375

>Once in a generation was always a meme statement
So was it's the only way to stay in the EU then :^)

>The SNP genuinely wanted a remain vote, you know
Why should I care what they want?

>Almost all of this comes down to refusal of special status for Scotland so that it can stay in the EU without leaving the UK.
No it hasn't.
The only person that's even entertaining Scotland joining the EU if they leave the UK is Guy Verhofstadt.
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>increasingly nervous woman threatens to stand in leadership election for fifth time

reasons why the rebels aren't doing a leadership challenge?
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>>80068236
>an anti-semitic Muslim from Rotheram who killed a guy because he was texting whilst driving
>is in the house of lords

well fuck me
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CHANCES OF LEADSOM BECOMING PM
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If jermey coebyn is elected have fun taking in italian and spanish migrants due to the econmic metldown because of deutsche bank collapse
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>>80068831
Because Corbyn would win easily. They can only get rid of him if they bully him into resigning. There won't be a leadership challenge.
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>>80068850
as-salamu alaykum, it is all part of Allah's great plan, allahu ackbar
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>>80067338
M8, those of us who don't live and work in the nice parts of cities are suffering. Factories are consistently moving away, houses are always being built, jobs and services aren't there to support them. Shit's been getting harder for a long time now.

If you knew anything about manchester you'd know it's a fucking terrible example of a nice place.
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>>80068589
Scotland would in the short term either get a currency union (less likely, but possible that the Chancellor was bluffing. See: Punishment Budget.) or continue to use the pound without such a union (Sterlingisation, more likely.) while establishing their own currency in the long term.

>>80068659
That's why Spain would prefer Scotland didn't leave at all.

But once Scotland has left, there's no point cutting off your nose to spite your face. "Oh, the Catalans are really uppity because they feel solidarity with Scotland... let's show them our legal basis for refusing them a referendum is bullshit!"

>>80068793
>So was it's the only way to stay in the EU then :^)
Fine, but since unionists have been so judicious in taking advantage of the SNP's meme statement, it's only fair the SNP do likewise... :^)
(This completely ignores the wider context, though. "Go and vote" is nothing like "Vote to stay in the UK because the EU won't let us in..."

>Why should I care what they want?
Because it demonstrates how they think. The SNP aren't the idiotic referendum calling machine you try to portray them as.

>No it hasn't.
Great argument. My response: Yes it has :^)))
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>>80068764

This. Why can't we have more serious country balls instead of the retarded, unfunny Reddit-tier shit we usually get?
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>>80064447
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>>80068589
If they want to join the EU they would have to adopt the Euro - those are the rules: http://ec.europa.eu/economy_finance/euro/adoption/index_en.htm
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>>80069097
ok cool thanks, thats what I thought. I saw an appeal in the Mirror months ago to try and stack the Labour party membership with Blairists but guess its failed.
>http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/robert-harris-opinion-jeremy-corbyn-8311672
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Can someone calm my nerves? People are talking about reversing the referendum vote. Is this possible?
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>>80069335
>Crying because of a vote

Fucking hell women are crackers.
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>>80064923
>I forget if it was Healey or Callaghan, but one of the Labour guys from that time mentioned that they set up all of the infrastructure for the oil, but were out of office by the time the country saw any benefit from it.

Tough shit, them's the breaks.

If Callaghan had the sense to call an election in 1978 when the economic outlook was reasonable then Maggie would never have been able to force him out with a confidence vote in 1979.

By the next elections in 1983, things might have been better.

TL;DR - Own fault, should have called the election when it was favourable.
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>>80069254
What would a currency union entail, and why would Westminster allow or benefit from it?

Them setting up their own currency sounds like an absolutely awful idea, surely they haven't the population, economy or even central bank for such an endeavour?
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>>80069254
Scotland can't use the pound as Royal Bank of Scotland will be forced to move to England due to most of their customers being in England
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>>80069470
They've been saying it since day one, it's all fucking hot air, ignore it.
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>>80069390
>One senior MP told The Telegraph: "It's finished. He will win easily in a second contest if he is on the ballot, it's everything we wanted to avoid."

>They added: "He is losing support of the membership by the day, there is no doubt about that, but they just sign up new members to replace them. He is Teflon in that sense."
On the contrary, the Labour party has been flooded with Corbyn fans.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/07/06/defeated-labour-rebels-admit-its-finished-as-jeremy-corbyn-refus/
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>>80069470
It's possible but highly unlikely, about as likely as Nigel staging a military coup and marrying the queen
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>>80069254
>taking advantage of the SNP's meme statement
The meme statement that was part of their referendum proposition.

>The SNP aren't the idiotic
Go and look at half of the legislation they've proposed over the past decade - they are.
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/asp

>no point cutting off your nose to spite your face
What does accepting Scotland into the EU do exactly? Adding, what will be, another Greece isn't really cutting off your nose.
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>>80069254

I'm pretty sure the EU treaties stipulate you all new ascending members to the union have to adopt the Euro. Would be interesting how they get around that.
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>>80068831
I've heard reports that they're supposedly holding off as negotiations between Tom Watson and Len McCluskey take place.

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/jul/07/jeremy-corbyn-opponents-hold-off-challenge-to-allow-talks

There was even a suggestion of a dual leadership with the title of "Chairman Corbyn" being bandied around (I'm not joking...)
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>>80068236

it makes me overjoyed to see that people are doing this. wonderful news.
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>>80069862
Good shit, hopefully this means the party will split.
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>>80069254
What's the point of a currency union if you want independence? The BoE is never going to allow that without you surrendering enormous amounts of sovereignty to avoid the same problems the eurozone has. If you used the pound without BoE backing you can kiss your financial sector goodbye. Ours is threatening to leave London just because of the EU. You think they'll stick around there without a lender of last resort?

Your best bet is to hope you can get into the EU and join the eurozone - and that isn't a very attractive bet to me.
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IT'S TIME FOR REMAINIACS

CAUSE THEY'RE CRAZY TO THE MAX

THEY HAVE NO HONOUR

THEY HAVE NO SHAME

THEY'RE ON THE SIDE OF GOLDMAN SACHS

AND ALL THE OTHER BANKS

THEY'RE REMAINIACS
THROW DEMOCRACY OUT THE WINDOW WHEN IT DOESN'T AGREE WITH THEM

SHOW CONTEMPT FOR FISHERMEN AND OLD PEOPLE TOO

I can't think of anything else so I'm going to stop.
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>>80070251
It won't split, just a small amount of vehemently anti Corbyn MPs like Ian Austin will be told to fuck off.
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friendly reminder of whats coming
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>>80068236
>Baron Ahmed of Rotherham
You can't make it up.
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New Condell lads:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THWPJE4xaJM
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>>>/v/344141127

/v/ is arguing about brexit again
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>>80068149
I love this comic.
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>>80069669
Almost certainly some British control over Scottish economic affairs, in exchange for the stability of all parties involved.

Scotland's own currency is preferable in the long term to Sterlingisation or restrictions from the UK, while it would be worth less than the British pound (most likely) that would encourage exports.

I mean fuck, New Zealand have a currency.
>>80069672
>RBS moving their brass plate somehow stops Scotland using a currency already in circulation.
>>80068659
Forgot:
Slovenia is an EU member.

You might remember that Slovenia used to be a part of a little country named Yugoslavia, which they separated from.

>>80069991
>The meme statement that was part of their referendum proposition.
It was fluff. It's basically saying "This is a big deal"
If it had genuinely been intended to set a hard and fast limit
>they are.
And yet they've been re-elected for a third term, the politically idiotic bastards...
>What does accepting Scotland into the EU do exactly?
Keep an that's already in the EU within the EU. (And on a wider strategic scale, provide the EU with continued access to the North Sea. Even if prices are low, that's a valuable resource to have on your doorstep.)
>what will be, another Greece
Except not in the Euro, and thus absolutely nothing like Greece whatsoever. (See the thing above about devaluing to export? Half of why Greece is so fucked is that they can't do that.)
>>80070040
ERM2. I already explained that in a prior post.

To join the Euro (an obligation they may have to make) Scotland would have to join ERM2. It doesn't have to join ERM2, even though that's a requirement. Sweden refuses to join ERM2 maintaining that it is voluntary, and so in practical terms Euro membership is voluntary.
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>>80065629
>That's how evil the elite is. Expect nothing else.

You really are a spineless coward you know.

We're the descendants of regicides and have no problems dumping monarch after monarch who didn't accept that no one was above the law.

If Parliament needs to be taught that lesson again, then it will be taught. By the people.

The proletariat have only to shake the fleas off their back to rid themselves of the elite and the elite fear the proletariat.

We the proles have no such fear.

Advance, Britannia! England Prevails!
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GOVE 46 LEL
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GOVE IS OUT

GOVE IS OUT

GOVE IS OUT

GOVE IS OUT

GOVE IS OUT

GOVE IS OUT
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Leadsom through to the final 2.
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>>80070850
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>>80068943

What are the bookies saying lads????
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Usa uk and Germany all women leaders kek
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BASED MUMMY

NORMIE HOLOCAUST WHEN
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>>80070686

Is there a joke in this somewhere?
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>>80070686
I was a Sapper in Helmend 2011
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Gove is a gonna - what an idiot
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Wow second woman Prime Minister in less than 30 years is going to be Conservative.

Lefties btfo
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>>80071072
Why would that be a joke? It's just british military gear through ages.
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>>80070272
>What's the point of a currency union if you want independence? The BoE is never going to allow that without you surrendering enormous amounts of sovereignty to avoid the same problems the eurozone has
The point is short term stability while working towards establishing an alternative such as a new currency. Scotland would have the ability to make the relevant decisions herself (i.e. if the BoE wants something the Scottish Government don't want to give, they can make the decision to tell them to get fucked.)

You might as well say "What's the point of a 'Yes' vote when you'd still be in the union on September 20th?"
>You think they'll stick around there without a lender of last resort?
It's possible. Some have argued no lender of last resort will simply reduce moral hazard. (Others, curiously, have argued that the BoE would step in anyway because a crisis in Scotland may spread, which is a viewpoint I never expected to see.)
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Govefags blown the fuck out
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>MICHAEL GOVE DROPPED VOTES
MICHAEL GOVE DROPPED VOTES
>MICHAEL GOVE DROPPED VOTES
MICHAEL GOVE DROPPED VOTES
>MICHAEL GOVE DROPPED VOTES
MICHAEL GOVE DROPPED VOTES
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>>80071110
did you really have to carry all that shit?
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Good, fuck Gove the slimy robotic cunt.
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Conservative party leadership election, second round result:
T. May: 199
A. Leadsom: 84
M. Gove: 46
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>>80070591
Although he sticks up for Homos and Jews, I like Pat.

>Generation Snowflake
kek
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>>80071181

It's from 9gag so I wasn't sure
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>>80071110
>>80070686
I should say the IED detector in that picture is a Valon, and I wouldn't use it to find my loose change. Horn is what we used
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>Tories to have second female prime minister
>before labour even have a single minority leader
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>>80071258
lel May's going to shit it in.
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Our next pm will be a woman, fuck
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>>80071258
84 + 46 = 130

it's all ogre
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>>80065151
>>80064549
He seems like a pretty chill dude desu
would get drinks with
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>>80071226
Yeah that's pretty much you kit for ops, but Sappers are vehicle mounted so it's not too bad, you don't carry your Bergen 24/7
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>>80071447

There's no more rounds retard
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>>80071258
based mummy
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>>80071256
>Good, fuck Gove the slimy robotic cunt.
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>>80071447
I don't think you understand how this works
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GOVED
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>>80071178
Women are weird desu.

>Start voting for Labour AFTER Iraq
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>>80070850
>>80071218

"He who wields the dagger never wears the crown."
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>>80071328
Wahey someone actually used my observation. Thanks lad, first time someone on 4chan has repeated something I've said.
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>>80071414
Could be worse, could have been a mussie.
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>>80070700

>It was fluff
So you're a mind reader now are you?

>And yet they've been re-elected for a third term, the politically idiotic bastards...
I said nothing about their ability to get elected - that doesn't require knowing anything. I said they were idiots, which they are.

>Keep an that's already in the EU within the EU
Scotland isn't in the EU. The UK is in the EU.

>Except not in the Euro
You're right, we'll be using another currency we have no control over.
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>>80071328
>next labour prime minister will be the muzzie mayor for london
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>>80067338

As somebody who lives in the west midlands and has traveled the full length of this country and spent time in liverpool, leeds, birmingham, plymouth, london and edinburgh I can assure you that things quickly turn to shit as you radiate out of the central high income areas.
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>>80071110

What does a Sapper do when you guys are not in a war?
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So who has the support of the members?
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>>80071447
mong
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>>80071408
>>80071447
MPs don`t matter in the final vote, lads.
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>>80071258

What happens next? Explain this to a retarded burger please
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>>80071497
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>>80071661
>As somebody who lives in the west midlands and has traveled the full length of this country and spent time in liverpool, leeds, birmingham, plymouth, london and edinburgh I can assure you that things quickly turn to shit as you radiate out of the central high income areas

It is like that in the whole world tough and it's even worse in the us
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>>80071577
m80 this is common knowledge
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>>80070700
>while it would be worth less than the British pound (most likely) that would encourage exports
You've also just demonstrated that you don't know what you're talking about in economic terms either.
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>>80071672
Literally nothing, Sappers are just Engineers now days. I was a fitter mechanic by trade but they've sold all the vehicle to civilians who rent then back to us, they don't trust us on them so we never use our trade. Spent most of my time counting cam nets and getting drunk
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>>80071447

The public who are signed up to support the Torys vote now my fellow.

Now we begin the Leadsom shilling.
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>>80071820
Normal people who buy membership of the Conservative party vote, people who vote Conservatives are more likely to back Brexit, May is Remain so we should get leadsom.
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>>80071497 >>80071539
>>80071715 >>80071797
>>80071919
>the tory members will vote totally differently
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>>80071865
Don't fucking lie. I know that you have seen my original, I can tell by the way you framed and structured your greentext.
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>>80071693
Depends how many patriots are left after Cameron's term... most probably became Kippers...
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>>80071607
>So you're a mind reader now are you?
I have this mystical ability to detect a thing called "Context"
> I said they were idiots, which they are.
You did so by cutting off "idiotic referendum callers" and completely missing the nuance that the only point I was making was one of political success.
The SNP are smart when it comes to playing politics. That's why they appear to defy political gravity.
>>80071607
The missing word between "an" and "that's" was going to be "Area" (though country would also be appropriate, it risks confusion with "state")
Scotland is in the EU. It isn't a member state, but it is still in the EU (as part of another member state.)
>we'll be using another currency we have no control over
In the short-mid term :^)
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>>80072043
MPs overwhelmingly supported Remain, we left.
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Look forward to both the Tory and Labour media scrape the barrel to boost May for the next two months.
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>>80072043

They will though

Even in the Gove text he said he was worried about Leadsom because the membership are social conservatives
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>>80072071
I've written the same thing in other threads, I swear (though in the future tense of course)
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>>80072157
MAY OUT
PAKIS OUT
UK OUT
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The pound is falling again hahhahaha.
The pound rose 1 cent today, but later on it fell to yesterdays level lol
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>>80072022

Also conservatives are traditionally more libertarian. May is like the maximum overlord of Authoritarianism, although with all the lefties going mental recently i don't know how it'll go
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>>80072043
SHUT THIS SHITPOSTING DOWN!
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>>80071110
Proud m8
Soldiers should be a tier above civilians but alas
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>>80070613

r8 my post

>>>/v/344161815
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>>80071894
Yes, it's not like devaluation for exporting purposes is a known thing.
It's not like China undervalue their currency to encourage exports.

I should however have mentioned the caveat of more expensive imports.
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All we need now is a promise from both May and Leadsom that they'd invoke Article 50 asap

Then it'd be a win/win

kind of
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>>80072289
>HUR DUH CURRENCY FLUCTUATES!

go choke on some Snus ya cunt.
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Can't get over Rudd telling the hoi polloi what to vote for.
Have they learnt nothing???
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>>80072109
>idiotic referendum callers
You said that, not me.

>In the short-mid term :^)
You've already shown that you don't understand how introducing a new currency would work since you think a new currency being "worth less" than the pound would mean it was good for exporting.
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>>80072289

Good, it will mean you will have to pay less to import the pakis your dying to take of us, and therefore will take a larger order.
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>>80072289
oh shit im #remaindead now
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Is any one here a Conservative member ?
I mean we need all the votes we can get
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>>80072414
Leadsom already has confirmed it`s her priority, I wouldn`t vote for May either way
MAY NO WAY
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>>80072414
May has already said she wont
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>>80072414
Leadsom already said she would right when she gets into office. May said not this year.
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>>80072388
Those are with currencies that >>already exist<<.
Creating a new currency is a whole other matter, unless you plan on the government fixing prices of bread like they once did here in which case you're better off just using the pound.
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REMEMBER:

If May wins, she will wait until fucking 2018 to trigger Article 50 in order to fight the 2020 election on promising to negotiate for an end to free movement in the "ongoing negotiations" rather than just giving us it like Leadsom would.
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>>80072414
>he doesnt know May is the damage control candidate for the establishment to limit the damage of brexit as much as possible

good goy
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How do we stop the May meme lads?
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>>80072713
THIS
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>>80072713
I would rather just give it to Leadsom
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>>80072713
We can't do shit about it, it's down to the Tory members. Thankfully the Tory MPs don't reflect their actual membership. Leadsom can do it.
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>>80072984
there is only one way
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top kek.
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http://www.bournemouthecho.co.uk/news/14601945.Lush_founder__Voters_said_they_don_t_want_our_EU_staff___we_ll_grow_our_business_in_Germany_instead/
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>>80072984

We pray to fuck that the Conservative membership are not ultra-cucks.

(we're fucked)
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>>80072512
>You said that, not me.
Yes, and you used it to cut into a general attack of "they're idiots"
Completely missing the point about them being skilled political operators.

>it was good for exporting
Your way of wording this has me confused: Are you thinking I'm talking about exporting currency itself, or goods sold in that currency?
Because that valuable context thing should make it clear I'm talking about exporting goods, but the wording almost implies you think I'm talking about the currency itself.

>>80072700
Considering they wouldn't have a new currency off the bat, it's almost irrelevant how difficult it is: It wouldn't be happening for a while.
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If Leadsom wins, it'll quite probably tear the Conservative party apart in exactly the same way the Labour party has been torn apart, the party members voting for someone the MPs disagree with. It'd be party political repeating integers. Kek wills it.
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UK will get it's 2nd female leader before the US even vote for Trump but get Shillary in a rigged result.
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This will be like the Labour leadership, Tory members will all vote against the establishment and get bae in. H A P P E N I N G

https://twitter.com/LeaveEUOfficial/status/751077859871952897
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>>80073086
so lets spread the word to tory voters and members
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>>80073150
There was a good article about how it's probably going to come down to the farmers, the author seemed to believe Leadsom was better positioned to guarantee what the farmers wanted
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>>80073181
>it's almost irrelevant how difficult it is
Worded that badly: It's almost irrelevant how difficult it is in current circumstances.

i.e. le big deficit meme is irrelevant to any hypothetical Scottish currency because it would come after curbs were put on that to deal with whatever method of Stirling-retention they use.
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wtf i hate sweden now
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>>80064447

Seen this pasta 4 times now

We made our choice Sven, and unlike you wavering cowards, we stick to our principles and see things through

So we'll deal with the economic consequences in the short term, and rebuild our country in our own image

Now get back to fluffing Abdullah's brown cock for Eva's sweet little pussy
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>>80072614
If I join will I have enough time to send my postal vote off?
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