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>>79974135
No one has ever heard of your shitty classification, Rare Ching Chong.
>>79974280
>American education
Hey Mongolia, it's been like 800 years since you last invaded China... Can we get another one going soon? MAY YUAN DYNASTY LAST 10,000 YEARS
Okay I posted, now fucking what. Go back to being irrelevant?
Hungary reporting in. Greetings to our cousins.
>>79974632
Nah, more Turanic posting, discuss whether some countries count as Turanic.
>>79974505
I'll wait until it collapses again.
>>79974280
no one in the usa, anyway
>>79974135
Posted.
Now please invade China for us.
hakkaa päälle!
>>79975119
We need to call a Turanic crusade, lots of riches and plunder to be had in china!
>>79975189
Agreed!
Men unharness the horses, Infront of us lies Treasury and conquest!
>>79974820
Greetings friend!
Shame I don't know Hungarian
http://kurultaj.hu/english/
Eid Mubaruk Brother
>>79975361
Greetings, Bangladesh usually isn't counted in.
>>79975481
>mfw they find out
You arent as cool as the other Mongolian.
>>79975618
What other mongolian? I am the only one on this intellectually stunted board.
>>79975343
Is Mongolian difficult to learn?
>>79974505
What's this from?
>>79975700
Yes, totally different from other languages and complex grammar.
>>79975694
Nah. About a year back a Mongol with a decent grasp at the English language came on here and derailed a thread, in a good way. Answered a lot of cultural questions about Mongolia and the state of your country's politics. He said that the Mongolian Government are basically lapdogs and shills for the Russians and people drink a whole lot.
Some of us became european, some became slavs, some became arabs, some became chinks. All the culture, the relationship with the divine and our values lost in time.
Where is the proud horseman riding his horse like the wind, freely in vast steppes?
Where is the shaman who danced through layers and dimensions of reality to learn from those who have no physical bodies?
Where are the real noble women who went to war with his fellow men, not the modern-whore who is needy, mentally ill, weak, attention seeking slut
WE WUZ KANGZ thousands of years ago but now we are suffocating in a sea of dense shit
>>79975907
Yes that's me.
>>79975933
One cannot lie idle, one cannot simply wish for good things to return, one must reclaim it.
>>79975957
Last time the mongol poster didnt capitalize his letters. So maybe it is? If you improved your English then good for you.
>>79975933
You were never kings. You were subhuman muslim/mongol invaders from central asia (where you belong). Go back to your mongol steppes and leave us Indo-europeans alone.
Turkey will be destroyed soon. And on its ashes Kurdistan will arise that will end the injustice of turk rule
>>79974135
>MUHGALNESIA
you have to go back
>>79974135
Why isn't your country being flooded with kebabs since it was your nip country that created the fucking mess in the middle east.
>>79976346
>2nd best Korea posting
>>79976346
I am sorry vassal, you don't count.
>>79976331
>Kurd
Mehmet please eradicate him.
>>79976331
Hey now. Kurds can have North Syria and Iraq. No need to get too upset at the Turks. I think they're disgusting roaches too but the ones who have some legitimate Turkic blood are ok.
>>79975933
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hakkapeliitta
We never abondoned it.
>>79975933
>Some of us became European
I hope you aren't referring to yourself
How's tengri doing? Sky still blue n shiet?
Guys, I think we give the Turks a bit too much shit. Erdogan might be a roach and some among the Turkish diaspora might act like subhumans, but the average Turk is fine.
>>79976331
Haha. En iyi kürt ölü kürttür. Hayal dünyanda yaşamana devam et. Hiç bir zaman devlet kuramayacaksınız.
Turanic Masterrace reporting in
>>79976926
"The average Turk" is just an Islamified Greek or Armenian. Actual ethnic Turks are a step above animals
>>79976926
Tbh, if Turan was formed, there would be world peace and we wouldn't have the looming threat of china destroying the planet.
>>79976926
not true
t. I used to live in Turkey
I didn't know I lived in "turan"
neat
>>79975343
>RARE
>>79976554
Stop culturally appropriating us Sven-Ahmed.
>>79977511
Finns didn't even have a national consciousness until getting conquered by Russia ignited one
>shithole countries thinking they are relevant
>>79976058
Wise words mongolbro
>>79976543
Exterminating a single rat would be useless while the house is infested with them. We are going to need work animals for the salt mines when the great turkic empire is reborn anyway.
>>79976554
>full gallop
>shoots twice
>charges with the horse
>slashes with sword
I just visualized it in my mind. Fucking beautiful
>>79976862
I was referring to hungarian and nordic bros. This is turan general, why the fuck would I want to be european
>>79974135
>It's a Turk with a Mongolian proxy thread
FYI we all just laugh at you arabian/balkan looking fuckers LARPing as le proud steppe warriors
>>79977694
I didnt need newtoothpaste.
>>79977666
I don't know how you got a national "consience"
>>79977734
Kurds are really annoying and /pol/ autists support them. Just bomb them more.
>>79974135
Riceniggers get out reeeeeeeeee
t. descendant of indo-european Scythian masterrace
>>79976926
Unfortunately this is not true. I can say maybe %30 of the population is decent. The rest is... well /pol/ already knows.
>>79977971
>he doesnt know
You are new here aren't you?
sup brothers.
>>79977734
Who will you steal from to make this "empire" anyway? Maybe this time your moon good will let you stay ascendant for longer than 50 years
>>79978247
>50 years
>flag
Who is surprised?
>>79977511
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diaspora
Born in Finland to Finnish parents grew up in cuckland.
If iam Svenahmed you are aswell.
>>79978037
The Finns were perfectly fine being Swedes all the way up until they decided they didn't want to be Slavs
>>79974135
>ITT: Turks, Finns and Hungarians pretend their blood is still majority turkic
>>79978070
This saddens me a bit.
>>79977088
A friend of mine went to China a few years back for a year to teach horse-related things at a local horse riding club. She went there being enthusiastic about Chinese culture and she returned a few months earlier being thoroughly disillusioned. The owner of the club (rich Chinese) was impossible to get along with.
Can Netherlands into Turan countries?
>>79978649
People don't really understand how disgusting chinese culture really is. Loud, rude, chauvinistic and wholly obtuse. They are all brainwashed.
have some Mongolian porn.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qx8hrhBZJ98&index=7&list=PLdqY-hKDThsQAMBlWocUtLdvYBpH_iwxo
>>79978323
The Ottomans were in decline for like 3/5 of their history. Go fuck a yak, heathen.
>>79978700
Dutch really isnt Central Asian.
>>79978783
>tuva
Close enough.
>>79978700
Come, sit by the fire.
You must learn our ways if you seek our kinship. Your journey will not be easy.
>>79978790
Very profane for a man of Christ. I doubt you actually know what scripture says.
>>79974135
>Turan
I'm a Kazakh and don't want to be associated with Turkey. We had so many Bozkurt faggots in school who dreamed about a great Turkic empire, but all looked mediterran
Plz bring back based Asiatic archery traditions.
>>79974135
I descend from Genghis Khan so I count
>>79978871
I don't like being excluded
>>79978920
What are the Glorious ways of the Asian Steppes?
My uncle manages a mine near the southern border of Outer Mongolia. He says Mongolians are dirty rats lol and he carries around a stick to whack Mongolians who slack off
>>79978774
I had a Chinese classmate once. She was probably the only one I had no quarell with (interestingly, the other one was the aforementioned riding instructor). But then again, Chinese living abroad are different to mainland Chinese.
Hong Kongese are another interesting breed. I spoke to one once. He specifically mentioned that he is NOT Chinese, he's from Hong Kong.
Greetings, my fellow Turanians!
>>79979071
Here they were never gone.
>>79979045
They are the most populous country with central asian heritage. And most Turks I've met have been pleasant.
>>79979017
It's not like I took the Lord's name in vain
>>79978325
Come home, mongolman.
>>79979405
>>79979045
Turks are ethnic Greeks who worship Allah. Their Asiatic heritage is negligible, especially in Western Turkey
>>79979125
You should see the Kurultaj once. If it doesn't freak you out, Tengri has his watchful eye on you.
Kurultaj is basically Burning Man with less hippies and more marauders on horseback. Representatives of Turanic nations come together and celebrate our heritage.
And huge amounts of lángos is eaten.
>>79979487
Do you think it pleases the Lord when you say such profanities? Do you think that such painting of disgusting pictures with words is godly?
>>79979775
You're disgusting.
>>79979658
Their Asiatic heritage is still there, though.
>>79979715
I might visit once, its on August right? I might make it.
>>79979658
30% asian.
>>79979045
Bozkurts are just confused edgy tools, ignore them. They talk about turan but they are also muslims. You can't have both.
Many people here also feel the same way like you do, they don't want to be associated with those idiots so they mock the idea of turan.
Jindandao Incident
>The Jindandao incident refers to a rebellion by a Chinese secret society called Jindandao (金丹道), who rose in revolt in Inner Mongolia in November 1891 and massacred 150,000 Mongols before being suppressed by government troops in late December.[1][2] The revolt devastated Mongol communities in the southeastern borderland and forced many Mongols to take refuge in northern banners.[3]
>>79979845
Fuck off, leaf.
>>79974280
Fucking Americans. You get dumber every day.
Turanids are one of the widest spread Ethnic groups on the planet.
Why are you so dumb? Legit question.
>>79974135
What the hell is Turan?
>>79979775
Godlier than heathenry, that's for certain
>>79979845
t. Zhang
>>79980018
Islam is linked to a caliphate, thus completely incompatible.
>>79980095
t. Chang
>>79980131
Heathen? What makes you think that?
>>79980141
Bitch i fucking descend from Genghis Khan!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seima-Turbino_phenomenon
WE
>>79980089
If you weren't injecting the krokodil all the time Vlad, maybe you'd realize that Turanists are in their entirety dirty steppe people who are either completely ethnically subsumed into another group or just so isolated and pathetic that they've managed to be forgotten by the wider world. To be a Turanist is to always look backwards at a half-remembered past to ignore their rapidly decaying present
>>79980354
So do I, but I wasn't a bastard. Sorry Zhang.
>>79980011
August 12-14. Tengri willing, we might bump into each other.
>>79979715
Sounds pretty cool
If i ever plan to go to Hungary I will try to go during this event
>>79980397
Someone is really mad, to write such a lengthy comment.
Mongolia will NEVER EVER EVER be a relevant country.
Mongolia has a tiny population of 3 million
Has shitty infrastructure
Has rampant alcoholism and domestic violence
Has a massive child homelessness problem
Is landlocked and surrounded by two superpowers
Is already controlled by Chinese businesses
All Mongolia has going for it are abundant natural resources. Mongolia is just gonna end up a Chinese colony. Not a big deal considering that China already owns Inner Mongolia.
>>79980826
I've nothing to do while waiting for the train
>>79980569
Even if you miss it, there is usually something else.
[spoiler]Just avoid Ozora like the fucking plague, that shit needs to be obliterated from the face of this world using a combination of thermobaric artillery, chemical weapons and napalm.[/spoiler]
>>79980018
>They talk about turan but they are also muslims
That was the most disturbing thing. They always mixed their Ottoman shit with it, some of them even were Armenians in deny, Nigdelioglu faggots...
>>79980890
It has an average IQ of 101 and a fertility rate of 2.45.
Westerners fear the Golden Race.
>>79980890
t. Liao
>>79980966
Kazakhstan is nice place, but I cant speak Kazakh or Russian
How's life in Mongolia?
>>79975907
About a year ago a female Mongolian posted some threads here. She was confirmed real and said she and others in Mongolia craved White men. She wanted a White anon to visit her so she could kidnap him and make him her love slave. No joke.
So how turanic are Russians? Did they mixed a lot with central asians?
>>79980443
I wasn't a bastard like you. I descend from his royal line.
>>79981227
Strange, must be mentally ill.
>>79981167
Its ok man, getting ready for Naadam.
>>79981427
You're mentally ill.
>>79981266
East Slavs have varying degrees of East Asian markers.
>>79981487
Stop projecting, Liang.
>>79981427
Nope. I remember it well. She was from a town outside Ulan Bator and she attended university there. She even showed is pics.
>>79981227
I'll have beautiful nightmares tonight.
>>79981427
Most females I knew revealed to have fantasies as weird as this once I got to know them.
>>79977666
The toponym/ethonym Suomi comes from Indo-Europeans and means human. It's passed down from them to us and Uralic speakers adopted it 100%. I'm pretty sure there is a very long-standing indentity here.
>>79981650
>The toponym/ethonym Suomi comes from Indo-Europeans and means human
This cannot be verified.
>>79978421
All the old poems and runes that people memorized from the Iron Age were recited at home in Finnish. Why do you think they did that if Swedishness was of any impotance?
>>79981575
That's what you are
I'm bustin'
How's the life on Mongolia?
>>79974135
> in this thread: Nations cuckable by mere horseriders
>>79981867
No, I'm merely a dissident.
eurasian master race reporting in
>>79974135
>be me
>born and raised in Eastern Europe
>implying I have any mongo ancestry
Such a dumb meme.
>>79981427
Can you confirm the meaning of these words, Mongbro?
>>79981739
>Myös nimi Suomi voi juontua luoteisin-doeuroopan ’ihmistä, kuolevaista’ merkitsevästä sanasta.14
http://www.elisanet.fi/alkupera/Kielet_Suomessa_kautta_aikain.pdf
http://www.kotikielenseura.fi/virittaja/hakemistot/jutut/1998_613.pdf
It's the best theory there is. And by the way, every other theory also gives it an Indo-European origin, albeit with a different meaning.
>>79981999
You must be some sort of balkan/belorussian or something. Good for you, I don't care.
>>79981938
By that what do you mean?
>>79981924
Good
why do nationalists always steal their ethnonyms from Iran?
Mongolia pictures
>>79981938
Yes, let us derail this thread my leaf bretheren.
>Tfw not some ugly mongrel mudshit
>>79982116
Most of it is right, thou, and he aren't the definitions of the words but they sort of work. But Many is not minga, Minga is a thousand, its a number.
>>79982181
I cant see anything wrong.
>>79982200
there is nothing wrong here, but yellow is sarl more
>>79982439
Proud Mongolia
>>79974135
Estland, reporting in.
My fellow turan people. I brought you some coffee.
Who wants some?
>>79982607
*throat-sings while shedding proud Mongolian tears*
>>79981807
The fact that they never agitated or advocated for independence in any way until being annexed by Russia? All the upper class Finns spoke Swedish anyway, and leaned more towards Swedish self-identification
>>79982234
Eurasian also exist outside of Central Asia
>>79982116
What manner of stupid list is this and where is it from? It's just lining up a bunch of words, looking at them outwardly and using no linguistic rules to establish whether they have genetic relations.
By the way, minä is the same as Indo-European mine, and possibly comes from some kind of hypothetical "Nostratic" group.
>>79982749
Coffee is just weird, why when you already have tea?
>>79982788
Not really, Finnish nobles were the first to push for cutting ties with Sweden.
>>79982320
All "Turanic" people steal everything from the Persians anyway. Religion, culture, arts, you name it. Or in the case of the Turks steal from the Greeks and Arabs too
>>79982602
>and he aren't the definitions of the words but they sort of work.
That's because it's cherrypicked as hell. It's doing everything in its power to make them look as similar as possible - in other words, biased.
>>79982320
And somehow always use the suffix -an
Meme nationalism is the fucking best
>>79982788
Gudgel War. Stop posting you dingbat.
>>79983023
I don't have anything persian, and ask the dead finn why he used a Farsi word.
>>79982928
>linguistic rules
but those are just made up
>chinks, slavs, and sandniggers STILL butthurt
>>79974460
>Finnish education
>one of the best in the world
>doesn't teach about turan
>>79982928
Linguistics is a science just like psychology is, all speculation.
>>79974135
>fly to Turkey for a holiday
>Some Turks at my hotel hear me speaking Finnish
>They suddenly become super friendly, show me around, Help me haggle for normal non-tourist prices, etc
>Turns out they believe this Turan stuff and think of us as their distant cousins
Turanic brotherhood, best brotherhood
>>79983546
Actually, those are the most reliable scientific approach there is provided that you have enough material to work with. The problem with linguistics is not the rules but hte lack of old words. We could theoretically go really far back in linguistic time if there just were enough material, but beyond, say, Proto-Indo-European, Proto-Uralic, Proto-Turkic, it gets too difficult. They can't even make sense of Basque because of the lack of evidence.
>>79980933
nah just let the gipsies from the village in
>>79983702
What is there to dislike?
Hai guise
>>79976996
Rareflag approved by holy kek
>>79983103
>one measly peasant uprising one region of Finland somehow invalidates the fact that Swedish influence was fundamental and pervasive in Finland for most of its history, and that the Swedish speaking Finn upperclass wouldn't really begin to agitate for nationalism until Finland finally was conquered by Russia
I know being a Turanist requires being delusional, but you could at least try harder
>>79981929
A
NON
COUNTRY
Epic fucking thread lads
Hajra Turan
>>79974135
Are you retarded?
Persians used the word Turan to refer to non persian peoples, especially turkics
>>79983865
Because we really hate sand niggers.
>>79978227
So many rareflags t'night
>>79983642
Why wouldn't they be? BTFO for an entire century.
rare flags the thread
>>79979715
Holy shit, why i never heard about this? It sounds pretty cool
>>79984061
>especially turkics
Did you realize it yet?
>>79983996
I don't give a shit about Turanians, it's just joke shit. But you can't deny that this country has remarkably retained its old identity despite being ruled by greater powers, so you can't go around claiming what you do.
>>79984089
And now they're paying you back with interest in Inner Mongolia
>>79984178
It's not that mainstream
>>79984076
Turks aren't exactly one single ethnicity. A Turk can vary from looking like an Anatolian to an Arab, Kurd, Turkic (East Asian) etc.
>>79984253
Look Liao, you are trying too hard.
>>79984089
>Mongolia
Will be impoverished and irrelevant until the end of time
Mongolian tears are delicious.
>>79974135
>>79984197
HEY Mongolbro! Remember the thread I made?
>>79984061
>>79984197
the original Turanians were Iranian tribes that later got Turkified. Turkic culture has nothing to do with Turan
>>79975848
I must say I absolutely love mongolian. Strange thing, because I usually only like european languages.
I have a thing for the asians who preserve their culture and heritage, even more if they are mixed with europeans. I hate chinks tho. They are as vapid as you can get.
>>79984435
Ok turkey.
>>79984405
Huh?
>>79984253
Not really, tbqh. The mongols killed half the chinese.
>>79978774
There are a lot of chinks in my country and I really hate them.
My guess is it is all a consequence of the "cultural revolution" they lost literally everything, and got turned into a swarm of ants. I am right?
>>79984363
I don't give a flying fuck what they do, Turks and all aforementioned "Turanians" are alien to us racially.
DodecadOracle("British_D", k=100)
[73,] "Turkish_D" "65.0547"
[75,] "Turks" "66.8026"
DodecadOracle("Norwegian_D", k=100)
[75,] "Turkish_D" "69.6066"
[78,] "Turks" "71.1368"
DodecadOracle("Swedish_D", k=100)
[73,] "Turkish_D" "69.2673"
[77,] "Turks" "70.718"
DodecadOracle("German_D", k=100)
[70,] "Turkish_D" "57.8994"
[73,] "Turks" "59.5712"
DodecadOracle("Finnish_D", k=100)
[75,] "Turkish_D" "81.427"
[81,] "Turks" "82.3032"
In fact, if we had Saamis in this run I bet only they are farther away from Turks than Finns. So this means Turks are more brothers to 99.9% of Europe than us.
>>79978039
no u.
now remove kebab you slavshit
>>79984511
lmao did you used the ethnonym you supposed to like as an insult?
face it mongol, your people left literally nothing behind to count as culture so you need to steal from around to feel relevant
>>79984595
I'm not sure if it is even that. They are really, really nasty people. As in individually, not just as a generalization.
>>79981091
Don't know anything about some Golden Boys but that dude in the picture looks like an asian John Snow.
Take a fat wad of Yuan to Ulaanbaatar. Buy two dozen of the absolute top Mongolian escorts and be treated like a god.
Sounds like a plan.
>>79984677
Huh? You mean all this stuff I have here is from outside? The food, the dress, the customs are all from the outside? You mind showing me the proof? Or are you just going to pull shit out of your ass?
>>79984924
oh sorry then I meant *relevant culture
>>79984795
>yuan
You couldn't buy a cup, no one wants that.
>>79978039
Where are those "Iranian" Central Asians now, huh? Dass right, they met their match and got driven into a bunch or mountain cracks in Georgia LMOA
>>79978102
>>79978227
>>79978649
>>79979905
Got the whole fucking gang here
How about some tunes?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mMZW0eqts4E
>>79980890
>mfw this fucking guy
When did the dry cleaning store close?
>>79984719
Mongol bro!
I would really love to visit Mongolia. Any places I should visit? I'd love to go backpacking there.
Also, how are your firearm laws in Mongolia? The internet doesn't have a whole lot of resources on it.
>>79982491
stfu ugly inbred, but sure bud
>>79978227
Adrian?
>>79985062
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mongol_invasion_of_China
>those casualites
>ten gorillian chinkies
>>79985062
Last I checked 60,000,000 > 150,000. Also it's much more humiliating to get rekt so hard by a country that's so much smaller.
>>79983670
i bet you think physics is a philosophy lol.
>>79984248
Your "old identity" was a variation on Swedish culture with some local flavoring that the Swedes found acceptable. The wealthy among you didn't even speak Finnish. Your culture only really asserted itself when the Russians tried to completely obliterate it and turn you into Russians
>>79985113
The mountains and lakes.
Firearms laws used to be good, but the government is taking the rights away. But i can still get AKs and saigas. Its not bad.
What's with Turanists though? Turks have nothing to do with actual Turkic people other than sharing a common language. Their autosomal DNA is completely Anatolian, how can a people be proud of having a foreign culture imposed on them and change their language accordingly? This is like being a Swedecuck.
And what's up with Hungaria? Hungarian is a Finno-Uralic language, having nothing to do with Turkic at all, much less genetically. The Xiongnu don't exist anymore, and there's no traces of them anywhere in Europe.
Keep this Turanist shit to Central Asia, which is still gonna get buttfucked by China and Russia.
The worst part about this are Turks though, they're just cosplaying and posting pictures of slant-eyed Mongols together with Ataturk and some "ne mutlu" garbage. How can you live with yourself when you follow an ideology that has no basis in empirical science?
In any case, I'm not really affected by this, but the fact that people want to lie to themselves so much is incredible. Turk Turan Cengiz Genghis Tengri Tanri isn't gonna get you anywhere, your countries are deadbeats.
And oh, wanna know what a Turk is? Imagine a bunch of Indo-Iranian steppe warriors, whose genetic affinity is closest to modern East Europeans, venturing to the Altai mountains without any women. What do they do? They find local Asian women , impregnate them and form cultures with them such as the Pazyryk culture. They're quickly overwhelmed by Asians since they're in their homelands. They get mixed out, but the Asians and their bastard offspring inherits their horse-riding culture along with their archery. They also get a language that is very different from what is normally associated with North Asian languages, probably because of the influence of Indo-Iranians. Don't believe me? Take a Mongol's autosomal DNA and examine it. He will have an intrusive North European component.
I hate that we gave away the whole steppe culture to a bunch of slant-eyed fucks. Oh well.
>>79985412
Physics is based upon mathematics, linguistics are based upon what some 'expert" believes happened.
>>79984637
Our predominant haplotype is also shared by Sakha Turks. It obviously doesn't affect autosomal DNA and therefore is irrelevant as to our genetic makeup, but there's some food for thought.
>>79975742
ancient greek gay furry art
>>79985421
Fucking awesome.
Sucks that the govt. has to submit to globalism.
Is there anyway I can get dual citizenship?
![13124670_719112681558970_4769397452842289508_n[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/S2yv3Dp.jpg "13124670 719112681558970 4769397452842289508 n[1]")
>>79984435
They weren't Turkified, Turks are a result of mixing between these Iranians and local Asian populations in Central Asia.
Kazakhstan was, for instance, completely European up until 2000 years ago. All the Siberian PIE cultures were made up of people who cluster with modern Europeans, especially East Europeans and people with sizeable Yamnaya components.
>>79982439
>>79982607
The Changhurt in this thread is insurmountable
The Song Dynasty is dead, dry your tears
>>79985501
Noam Chomsky is objectivily right about everything tho. And by that logic history is all speculation
>>79985455
tl;dr the post
>>79976996
Wtf turkmenistan. How the fuck did you access pol. Isn't it like north korea over there?
>>79985548
No you cannot have dual citizenship, if you apply and get accepted you must renounce your previous citizenship.
>>79985418
Swedes had already effectively assimilated us culturally at that point, hardly represents what we used to be.
>>79985418
Language is the biggest factor of culture, of course a Murrifat like you wouldn't know it since you only speak English.
>>79985748
It is really, its all cherrypicking from the sources and hoping its what really happened.
Mongolia I think you are a very based country and want to visit one day.
Where to stay? What to do? I heard you can visit Genghis Khans birthplace.
>>79984677
>>79985005
Do people in Cyprus even have decent internet? Oh yeah, btw how's being cucked by the Turks going?
>>79985421
Don't you have to be a citizen?
>>79985504
>Our predominant haplotype is also shared by Sakha Turks
You share it with Sakha SIBERIANS. Turks did not exist when N1c1 had mutated. Finns and Sakha have Ancient North Eurasian admixture in common, but it comes from a 26,000 year-old common ancestor. 26,000 year old.
The Sakhas were just unfortunate enough, just like Turks and Armenians, to have their language and culture changed and foreign ones imposed upon them.
>>79985957
Of course, the same as your country.
>>79985455
I'm hoping it's just a troll. In Finnish we have zero Turkic loanwords besides recent food-related. The Wiki article if I remember correct states that Uralic also has Turkic loanwords, but that's because it's counting some recently conquered Volga people among it.
Hey Mongke, sorry! I can't invite you to my home to play Xbox because my mom is coming home late from work.
More tunes for thread
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_5yt5IX38I
lots of people are turkic in turkey , having different %s of turkic blood doesnt really matte , we still hold pur nationality even though all the islamic bullshit happening to us. Saying that every western turk is greek or (((armenian))) is ignorant as fuck , you cant go claiming meme level knowladge without having proper education about a place you probably didnt even went to
>>79985952
butthurt mongoloid detected. how does it feel that your ethnicity is synonym with mentally challenged people?
>>79986100
No, you can buy firearms in the US if you are a legal permanent resident. You don't need citizenship, just a greencard.
>>79985455
I have a turkic name (so does my whole family), green slanted eyes, blondish hair (some red hair on my beard) and white skin. I know how to fight with a sword and can shoot a bow, although I accept I'm not a very good horse rider. I get along great with them though.
These are only the physical reflections. There is much more that your silly materialist mind can't even possibly grasp
>>79986389
>>79986100
We also have alien firearm licenses.
Turan is a cuck name created by Persians
Congrats on using your cuck name, it's interesting you are proud of it.
>>79985455
>we
You didn't have anything to do with them, Swede. You were dwelling in caves with your fellow I1 huntergatherers. As to Turkics and Mongols being Iranians, that's fucking ridiculous. If Mongols have European DNA it's because they fucked European women, as their paternal lineage is predominantly of East Asian origin. Most Turkics are not R1a or R1b. Kyrgyzes and Uzbeks are an exception due to living in close proximity with Pamiris.
"At this moment, young Mongke desired a warm bowl of goat milk."
>>79986273
Pretty sure most genetic studies on Anatolian Turks have disproved that notion.
IIRC you guys are at best 10% Turkic, genetically speaking.
>>79986273
>having different %s of turkic blood doesnt really matte
Of course it matters, why else would you call yourself Turkic? And western Turks are not Greek or Armenian, they're ANATOLIAN. Which is the indigenous population of Turkey. Turks haven't changed genetically one bit. And how can you be proud of having Seljuq Turks impose their language on you? They made you switch languages and that's it. And now you're spouting a bunch of Turanist crap, which you have nothing to do with.
>you cant go claiming meme level knowladge without having proper education about a place you probably didnt even went to
Of course you can, ridiculous
>>79986273
Jeez how cucked can you get? It's objectively true that your ancestors were just Greeks who converted to Islam and started speaking your gurgle language. You're descended from the conquered, not the conquerors
>>79986538
America is a cuck name made by Spanish
Congrats on using your cuck name, it's interesting you are proud of it.
>>79986325
I'm not a mongol though. I'm a Celt who thinks Mongols are just as cool as us. Just like the Chinese needed a Great Wall for defense against the Golden Horde, Hadrian built a wall in Northern England to keep the ancestors of modern day Scotland out. There's no butthurt here, but you sure sound angry about something
>>79986440
Congratulations, you admit that you're in no way genetically Turkic and that you have a Turkic name just like your coward ancestors did, who had to change them from their original Anatolian ones to Turkish ones.
>I know how to fight with a sword and can shoot a bow, although I accept I'm not a very good horse rider. I get along great with them though.
These are only the physical reflections. There is much more that your silly materialist mind can't even possibly grasp
Yeah yeah, keep cosplaying a Mongol. Go play Mount and Blade instead and stop pestering people about your delusions. Pathetic
>>79986547
Hunter-gatherers from Sweden were I2. I1 is a recent clade which got picked up by farmers/Indo-Europeans.
>>79985455
>They also get a language that is very different from what is normally associated with North Asian languages, probably because of the influence of Indo-Iranians
This has to be bait
>>79986767
>just as cool as us
yeah you were both irrelevant barbarians
i don't mind to watch Magnolia invading us, actually. Do it faggots!
>>79985455
Mongols aren't partially Iranic, that's Central Asian Turks. Don't recall hearing about IE admixture in Mongols.
But yeah it's historical knowledge that Turkics used to live on the eastern steppe, and Indo-Europeans used to live on the western steppe (from around the Black Sea to Xinjang).
Obviously the various invasions and Mongol massacres over the time has changed that, a bit.
That being said, the notion that Anatolian and Central Asian Turks are pure Turkic is pretty ridiculous.
>>79986689
>Amerigo Vespucci
>Spanish
>>79986890
>t. Julius Caesar
>>79986598
I have blond hair and green eyes but also %50 turkic mixture , according to what you say I am anatolian even though i have been brought up in the turkic culture in a turkic family. I cant claim myself to be ((((greek)))) and abonden my lineage just because you say it doesnt count
>>79986890
Im pretty sure I can visit your country without a visa, seeing as turkey doesnt demand visas from mongolian nationals.
>>79987093
you can visit the shithole in the north but you will need passport to pass to civilization
>>79986440
>>79987065
Post eyes and hair or didnt happen
>>79986864
How so? There were a lot of North Asian language in the past that have now almost gone extinct. Those high ANE-admixed populations didn't speak Turkic or Uralic.
>>79987065
Your lineage is Greek in its earliest roots though. I imagine your ancestors would be ashamed to hear their line ends in a goat fucking Turkaboo halfbreed
>>79987065
>50% Turkic mixture
That's really rare then, seeing as the average ethnic Turk has been shown to have around 10% Turkic admixture.
You guys are practically the same people as Kurds, Armenians, Iranians, and Georgians, genetically speaking.
>>79986547
Except we do, because the whole notion of horse-riding steppe warriors stems from the PIE, who are most closely related today to modern North Europeans. And who cares about haplogroups? They don't say anything, autosomal DNA is all that matters. A nigger can be R1a if his paternal ancestor was a Russian slaveowner.
And no, no dwelling with I1 hunter-gatherers. That whole culture disappeared when my hunter-gatherers mixed with Yamnaya people and Neolithic farmers and formed the Corded Ware culture, from which the Indo-Iranians eventually sprung and spread to, that's right, Iran, India, the Tarim Basin and you name it.
> As to Turkics and Mongols being Iranians
Indo-Iranians. Andronovo culture, Sintashta culture, Arkaim culture, ring a bell? Might I ask, who are they closest related to genetically? What hair/eye colour markers did their remains have on their alleles?
>If Mongols have European DNA it's because they fucked European women, as their paternal lineage is predominantly of East Asian origin.
Nope, the component is too old for that. The reason why Mongols have East Asian Y-DNA is self-explanatory, the Indo-Iranians were few and their offspring went on to assimilate other East Asian cultures.
>Most Turkics are not R1a or R1b. Kyrgyzes and Uzbeks are an exception due to living in close proximity with Pamiris.
You're just confirming everything
>>79987218
>Those high ANE-admixed populations didn't speak Turkic or Uralic.
That proves nothing. Agglutinative Uralic and Altaic languages share nothing with Indian-Europeans.
>>79986775
You clearly don't know that there still are green/blue eyed and blond turkics living in asia. There even are ginger turkics. They still exist even after all the racemixing.
Of course you won't be able to find this information in kikepedia so it can't be true for you, cuck.
>>79987065
>have blond hair and green eyes but also %50 turkic mixture
Y-Yeah, suuuure, canim
>>79986968
>employed by Castille
>>79987216
sure
>>79987301
i dont thinkk study included all the 80 million people in turk
>>79985884
But then you didn't "retain" your old identity, did you, considering your elite (the people who matter) spoke Swedish. You revived your culture certainly, but that's not the same thing
>>79987364
>You're just confirming everything
Kyrgyzes and Uzbeks are far from Proto-Turks. Some intermingling with Persians doesn't prove your Atlantis-tier theories.
>>79978227
I'm on phone, what flag is it
>>79987534
And does that make them Turkic? No, it doesn't. Their physical features come from Indo-European ancestors. You're just confirming everything I say.
>Of course you won't be able to find this information in kikepedia so it can't be true for you, cuck.
It certainly can be true, but not likely. Not that I like Wikipedia that much, but If it can't get through to Wikipedia, then it's probably false.
>>79987534
Lad, if they have blue eyes and blond hair, then they aren't pure Turkic.
You seem to think that anyone with slanted eyes is a pure Turk, you don't realize that you can have partial Turkic admixture (slanted eyes), and partial IE admixture (light hair/eye colour).
The fact that IE people lived in Central Asia before the Turks is not a controversial thing, the Turks obviously mixed with the locals.
The question, of course, is how much of their genes are Turkic?
1%?
10%?
25%?
50%?
Turanists, for some bizarre reason, seem to abide by the one drop rule, where one drop of Turkic blood makes you a Turk.
>>79987747
>majority of finns spoke finnish
>uhh.... doesnt count
Yeah and anglos didnt really have an identity because their nobles spoke french.
Actual retard.
>>79987721
Those aren't slanted eyes m8, those are almond eyes, and you can find them all over the Middle East.
>>79987456
Agglutination can arise or be lost, so it's no evidence of genetic relations.
As far as North Asian languages go, they are still around. N1c1 is Yakuts is not old so it should be treated as a later invasive haplogroup.
>>79987216
>posting my face on a imageboard filled with degenerate faggots
I don't want this swedecuck to fantasize about me fucking his slut wife while him watching, so nope sorry
>>79987998
N1c*
>mongolian throat singing intestifies
>>79976996
ULDRA RARE :DDDD
>>79974280
Every moron with access to the internet has heard of it and thinks it's legit
It's the world wide web version of Jared Diamond's books
>>79986890
>History literally has a list of successful Celts
>irrelevant barbarians
Okay because John F. Kennedy, Craig Ferguson, Brian Limond and the band U2 are irrelevant barbarians. I suppose William Wallace, Éamon de Valera, and all those bad ass Welsh long bowmen were irrelevant barbarians. Okey dokey, Southern European greasy guido. How's it being a irrelevant island that's closer in proximity to Turks, Jews, and Sandniggers then?
>>79987929
Their identity was subjects of the King of England, who was French (or Norman more specifically). English culture of the old Saxons was essentially subsumed into the new Frankish culture just like the Finns were subsumed into the Swedish. Nationalism as we know it did not exist until the 1700's at the earliest
Some incredibly butthurt people in this thread, and I really don't understand why they are so mad.
>>79987749
What are you talking about? They didn't intermingle with Persians, they didn't exist back then. They got their shit from Proto-Indo-Iranians, who so happen to descend from the Andronovo and Sintashta cultures, that in turn come from the Corded Ware culture, since they're more genetically identical to each other than to the Yamna people. When I say Iranian, I don't mean Persians, I mean the people who later on became Iranian by invading the Iranian plateau and imposing their language upon the native Elamites. The reason why Kyrgyzes and Uzbeks have retained a larger frequency of R1a - which doesn't mean anything, by the way - is because those areas were less populated and more prone to a Founder effect, just like the Finns have with their N1c1 despite being completely European. You try changing the paternal lineage of a bunch of gooks that live next to China, I guarantee you will get mixed out if you bring anything less than a couple of million men.
>>79987989
nigger no , something between round or monolid if you ask me
>>79987301
Source on this? I'm Iranian, I'm about to order my 23&Me and I want to know more about this genetic heritage.
>>79988294
Nationalism is not what is being discussed, it is whether Finnish culture was distinct from Swedish, and it was.
>>79988011
That's because you're lying out of your ass. You post a pair of green normal eyes that you desperately try to convey as being somewhat slanted.
>>79988407
Yeah in the same way a Canadian is distinct from an American, which is to say barely. Finnish culture was very very heavily influenced by the Swedish
>>79987918
>Turanists, for some bizarre reason, seem to abide by the one drop rule, where one drop of Turkic blood makes you a Turk.
Turk is defined ethnically, not genetically. You can be a giant-nosed blue eyed genetic Iranian person and still consider yourself a Turk. Especially if your language at home is something Turkic instead of whatever else.
>>79988267
lmao stay irrelevant potato
>>79984253
>the mongolians were defeated by the womb of the han
lol theres no coming back from that 1, chinks btfo for the rest of their enriched existence
![nick-young-confused-face-300x256_nqlyaa[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/z4koqaD.png "nick-young-confused-face-300x256 nqlyaa[1]")
>>79988595
>Turk is defined ethnically, not genetically.
>>79988567
Canadians and Americans speak the same language, Finns and Swedes do not, you must be stunted in the mind if you cannot recognize the effect that has.
Wow very interesting thread and I see lots of informed people so can any of you red pill me about Abkhazians?
>>79988393
Bumping this again, would anybody care to inform me about this stuff?
>>79988567
if that's the degree of distinction between finns and swedes I'd say the finns made out pretty well, libtarded as they are, Canadians are way smarter on average than Americans
>>79988713
Culture is not dependent on genetics, I hope you realize that.
>>79988336
>They didn't intermingle with Persians, they didn't exist back then. They got their shit from Proto-Indo-Iranians
>Kyrgyz abd Uzbeks
You retarded stormnigger, Kyrgyz and Uzbeks didn't even exist as ethnic groups back when Proto-Aryan was around. Get your timelines straight.
>>79988407
Let's be honest though, as much I claim they were different, they have still been reasonably similar for probably as far back as since the ice sheet melted.
You did not have alien Mesolithic cultures across the Baltic Sea nor separate Corded Ware or Iron Age. We are talking about minute intra-European differences here.
>>79988713
>ethnic
>of or relating to a population subgroup (within a larger or dominant national or cultural group) with a common national or cultural tradition.
this is probably the most american post I've seen from a european in a while
american with a shitposting swedish proxy suspected
>>79988267
Celts are literally the shittiest and most irrelevant ethnic group in Europe. Never accomplished anything worth a damn. And as a Country/state never amounted to anything, ever. LMAO @ cherrypicking a couple famous names that all things considered are literal donkey shit compared to other countries. Lmao at having to use diaspora like JFK since you're an irrelevant non-country. Outside of JFK all tgose names are irrelevant. Scotland is the biggest cuck in history. Ireland is like the niggers of europe for all eternity. Celts are as irrelevant as you can be.
>>79988999
Checked,
But really, language is a fairly large split in culture.
That makes Tuva distinct from Mongol, different kinds of Chinese in China.
>>79987905
You are not all wrong about your theories but I wouldn't hold on to the "scientific" theories that much if I were you. You know how (((they))) like to mix shit up and hide the truth about history and people
>>79987918
Turks were not originally slanted eyed but having slanted eyes in turkey means that you have some blood from asia. Most people look like arabs here and we just can't get along. Totally different culture. It's not just about "blood"
No one can be pure something, we are all racemixed. Especially turks. If you've lived as nomads and conquerors for centuries, you will have tons of racemixing.
>>79987998
Are you suggesting that N1c isn't Mongoloid in origin? Who would you propose these purported "invaders" to be?
>>79988512
That wasn't me
>>79989083
>Celts are literally the shittiest and most irrelevant ethnic group in Europe.
Depends on your perspective, IMO they were pretty important for more than a millenium.
>Never accomplished anything worth a damn.
>And as a state never amounted to anything, ever.
Lots of Gaulish states in the Classical and Early Medieval periods amounted to a lot.
>>79987851
Uzbekistan :3
>>79988834
The average white IQ in America is higher than the average Canadian IQ. Your country is just as bad as ours, you just yearn for something to make yourselves distinguishable from Americans, which you've found in the form of insufferable leftist self-righteousness. That's why leaves are so universally despised.
>>79988922
>Kyrgyz and Uzbeks didn't even exist as ethnic groups back when Proto-Aryan was around
No they didn't, Kyrgyz and Uzbeks are a result of mixing between Proto-Indo-Iranians living in modern Uzbekistan and Kazakhstan and Turks - who had already been created in the Altai area and beyond, since we're talking about CE now, not BCE.
>>79989083
>Charlemagne
>Holy Roman Empire
Ok american.
>>79974135
Hello.
>>79989469
Uzbekistan is worst stan right now when it comes to Jihadis flowing to Syria(per cap)
>>79977666
t. Negrified German
On what basis did Daniel Juslenius write "The Defence of Finns" if it took a hundred years for there to be any national consciousness among Finns?
>>79989156
But you're the conquered, not the conquerors, stupid roach
>>79974135
not a single drop of mongol blood here. Croatians are ubermensch and all others are subhuman filth.
>>79989618
>German
>German
I thought Mongols were just subhuman conquerers who came around during the perfect storm when the nations around them were weak from war. They conquered them but it didn't last long because although they could conquer, they could not rule.
Nobody is/should be proud of having coin-slot genes, literally sub-human tier. How tall are you men anyway? A group of men should never not have another man who isn't at least six feet tall.
>>79989051
I think you left out the part that comes after that in the Google dictionary on purpose.
>relating to a population subgroup (within a larger or dominant national or cultural group) with a common national or cultural tradition.
"ethnic and cultural rights and traditions"
synonyms: racial, race-related, ethnological, genetic, inherited; More
>>79989766
That's why you had a world empire and we didn't,
oh....
>>79989773
>Charlemagne
>German
I didn't think you were that dumb.
>>79989787
>you thought
key word
I'm 6'2" and most young mongols are getting to be around 6' foot but generally we are short.
>>79989850
>basing your pride on Medieval military achievements
>>79989156
>You know how (((they))) like to mix shit up and hide the truth about history and people
I don't know about that, a genetic sample of a 2000-year old dead Uzbek is going to give you the same genetic markers whether a Jew tests it or not.
>Turks were not originally slanted eyed but having slanted eyes in turkey means that you have some blood from asia.
Not necessarily.
>Most people look like arabs here and we just can't get along
Maybe because you're closely genetically related to them? Don't worry though, Anatolians are nothing like Semites.
>No one can be pure something, we are all racemixed.
Not true, most Europeans are 100% European. The phrase you're looking for is ethnically mixed. Everyone is ethnically mixed. But surely not racemixed.
>>79989554
if the average white IQ in America is higher than the average white Canadian IQ, why are Americans so terrible at using and understanding English? I don't yearn to be distinguished from Americans in any respect other than to be disassociated from your enormous stupidity. Daily reminder that high white IQs in the US almost universally belong to the insufferable self-righteous leftists you try to pawn off on us. Please double think more in an attempt to prove what a non-retard you are.
>>79989618
You're a retarded steppe nigger.
My country is being invaded by your people does that count?
>>79974460
>Dothraki
>Tries to mock western civilization
>>79989814
I didn't include synonyms because they're not part of the definition. Definite American detected.
>>79990114
>basing pride on anything
>being prideful at all
>>79989654
Juslenius was an actual lunatic though. He thought the Roman Empire and the Greeks were from Finland
>>79989850
and look at you now, sad. also look at Hitler, had it all in one moment, but where are the germans now? really-makes-you-think.meme
>>79989850
Keep dreaming about the past while being complete shit in the present, dumb steppe nigger.
>>79990179
Counts for a lot of the world.
>>79990177
Im sorry for being right. Your superior white intellect couldn't arrive at the correct answer, for that I am very sorry.
>>79990045
If you include Scandinavian nations in your little butt-buddy festival, then why are their average heights consistently greater than yours?
Thought? Where is your empire today? Tell me I'm wrong, tell me you knew how to unite and rule over diverse groups of people, and that you literally didn't just murder them all.
>>79990440
>canada
>talking about butt-buddies
>whites talking about butt-buddies
>>79990350
True.
>>79990387
Speak to me when you can afford to fly here peasant.
>>79990169
Wow a Canadian blaming America for his country being a leftist shithole, who could've guessed? Blow it out your ass, Canuck
>>79990045
Are you actually trying to argue the king of the Frankish Germans was not in fact a German?
>>79990592
Hilarious, have your laughs, now answer the question?
You are no different than the Africans, you eat the seeds instead of planting them. Instead of letting the people rule under your dominion, you decided to slaughter them all. You brought no innovation to the table; in fact, you set the world behind, killing those at the forefront of scientific achievement. Had you not been stopped by your own incompetence, the world might not have been what it is today.
Your only pride is in military achievement, nothing important comes after that. Your people were not fit to rule anything.
>>79990592
Why would I visit a literal shit hole like Mongolia? Face it. Your country and people are destined to be poor and irrelevant forever. Prove me wrong.
>>79990858
>Celts
>Franks
>different
>>79990767
>Wow a Canadian blaming America for his country being a leftist shithole
Not even close to what I said, American reading comprehension strikes again.
>White Americans are smarter than Canadians
>but they're almost universally illiterate
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>>79990959
Dodging the fact that you are poor and never will amount to anything. Thats the reason why you are mad.
>>79990961
The Franks were not themselves Celtic, idiot. The people they ruled were culturally Latin but ethnically a mix of Latin and Celtic
>>79990925
Had they not fucked up the Persians we'd all be Muslims m89.
>>79989720
Turkic history =/= ottoman history
Take a look at this kikepedia article which is mostly bullshit and only writes about the turkic history after christ
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Turkic_dynasties_and_countries
>>79990156
>%100 European
You are now just shitposting
>>79990387
We don't really take this world as serious as you do. Nations rise and fall, we get butchered and become irrelevant shitholes, so what? We know these things don't really matter in the end. There's much more to life than land grabbing and fighting over trivial human bullshit.
Raise your head up and look at the eternal sky and you will see the truth of it because you are essentially looking inside yourself
>inb4 "roach philosophy kek"
>>79985789
If you get spanish nationality by blood, it is unrenounceable.
For example, if I were going to adquire mongolian citizenship and I had to renounce to my spanish nationality, I would do it (by a letter) but they would throw it in the trashcan, because the law does not allow you to stop being a spaniard.
>>79991105
>A Mongolian nigger calling someone else poor.
If you were a rich Mongolnigger then you would have already moved to another country, nigger.
>>79991350
Iranians are a different story, they and their neighbours were already experiencing the "Islamic golden age of enlightenment".
Iraq used to be the fertile crescent, not after the Mongols invaded.
>>79991597
Please stop acting like one of our niggers. Can you atleast try to show we are civil?
>>79991532
Literally all of the steppe tribes time was spent squabbling over herds of goats and who had the best grazing land. You're romanticizing something that has never existed. Why don't you make your ancestors proud for once and learn Greek philosophy, seeing as that's more profound and relevant than the imaginary steppe heathenry of your conquerors that you venerate
>>79985455
its about language and culture and not about genetics you cuck
>>79974460
whats a turan?
![242[2].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/bdZSEnm.jpg "242[2]")
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