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LABOR CANT CHANGE REALITY EDITION
>live coverage
http://www.abc.net.au/news/abcnews24/
>follow results
http://www.abc.net.au/news/federal-election-2016/results/
http://vtr.aec.gov.au/HouseDefault-20499.htm
http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/ng-interactive/2016/jul/02/live-australian-election-results-track-the-votes
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LIKELY SENATE RESULTS:
TOTAL:
Coalition: 30
Labor: 26
Greens: 7
Independent Teams: 6
One Nation: 4
Unknown: 3-4(?)
tl;dr Doesn't matter who wins, Senate is completely fucked and will cuck the ruling party harder than the Senate cucked Tones and Prepbull.
>tfw pauline has all the power
>>79516378
Senate's cucked but it will be ALP
>>79516401
>>79516401
>>79516401
this is the real thread idiot
Was that the most anally annihilated victory speech of all time? Turnbull was beyond devastated. 4chan promised lefty tears on Facebook, but we were delivered Turnbull tears.
>>79516727
shoo shoo /r/australia
>REMEMBER DON'T VOTE MINORITY PARTIES
WHY DIDN'T YOU LISTEN???
(voted One Nation kek)
the hero australia needs
Will the Coalition get a majority? The only need 3 more seats.
>>79519184
I'm glad Liberal won but it feels shitty with him at the helm of the party.
Did my boy Ricky Muir get re-elected in the senate? This is all I care about
>>79519416
Hopefully.
>>79519184
That doesn't look like Pauline Hanson
>>79519416
Check the AEC, they need 8, Labor needs 6. we wont know the result until tuesday.
keep dreaming globalist cucks
your time is over
>>79519432
the leader doesn't matter too much, because if labor won they'd tax the hell out of the mining companies, and things would turn to shit like you wouldn't believe
niiiga I don't care who wins it will be coalition how's Ol mate Pauline doing please be good
Bumpin
>>79519521
Apparently pre poll and postal votes always favour the Coalition, so that should be enough to get them over the line.
Reminder that women should not be teachers.
Reminder that females give preferential treatment to female students and shit on males.
Reminder female teachers and their leftist-indoctrination on students is THE SOLE CAUSE of Generation Nu-Male.
Want proof? Look at all the SocJus nutjob uni teachers. Most of them are women.
here is our prime minster who seems to be smuggling a rather large budgie
How many senate seats did One Nation win?
So how does it feel libfags to know your hero has fallen and that we're gonna have a hung parliament?
>>79519689
Maybe, What they have favoured in the past, and what the actual result will be, are definitely two different things.
Why do so many Lab/Greens voters with university degrees or attending university think they're the most intelligent people on the planet?
My classes are filled with retards who lean left politically that are only good at regurgitating the assigned chapters of a book
t. MD student at UoM
Oi, whats this comic aboot?
>>79519184
Thats not the hemp party
>>79519740
How does it feel to be a loser?
>>79519692
I think there should be more male teachers I'm 18 turning 19 if I don't figure out what to do this year I'll study secondary education next year.
lol abc is ignoring one nation again
>>79519779
double D victory
impending voter fraud investigations
a majority government win
today was a good day.
>>79519873
ABC are cucks I'm glad the Liberal Party cut funds to them they're biased as shit.
Glenn Druery says Pauline will get 3-4 Senate seats
>>79519873
They mentioned Nigel Farage in drag, that's about it so far.
People are scared to say anything or they'll get roasted by crazed leftists.
>>79519944
>t. Channel 9/Channel 7 shill
ABC had by far, the best election night coverage.
>>79520014
And the best journalism
>>79519801
>if I don't figure out what to do this year I'll study secondary education next year.
Sorry goyi- err, guy but we can't have you ruining our indoctrination cam- I mean, public schools.
Have fun finding a job after we ramp the pedo-scare up to 11! Hope you understand guy, we need to keep this kids safe from waking u- I mean uh, evil pedos.
Now if you excuse me I have a Child Moddeling event to attend with my fellow businessmen. Shalom!
>Captcha is select all trains
>They're all bullet trains
Thanks Kek
>>79520014
>not having fox
http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/comments/malcolm_turnbull_you_are_finished/
Kek, Andrew Bolt is so fucking mad right now.
>>79519797
>How does it feel to be a loser?
You seem upset.....
GUYS
WTF
67-67 NOW
WHY
WHAT THE FUCK LABOR CAUGHT UP??????
>libs just lost five seats
Show's over. Labor won.
>>79520190
>Kek, Andrew Bolt is so fucking mad right now.
This was so worth it for the Boomer and right wing rage.
Let the hate flow!
>67-67
what the fuck just happened
>>79520376
Those leading lib seat got put back in doubt due to inc labor votes
>>79520404
>WHAT THE FUCK LABOR CAUGHT UP??????
Nope they are ahead - 70 seats as reported by the AEC - the news is just ignoring it and pretending the LNP still has a chance of majority government.
>>79520376
>>79520404
>>79520407
>>79520451
Where are you getting this from?
>>79520173
I'll red pill all the students and you won't be able to stop me MARXISTS BTFO
>>79520518
http://www.abc.net.au/news/federal-election-2016/results/
cuck
>>79520518
http://www.abc.net.au/news/federal-election-2016/
>>79520552
>>79520592
I remember Antony Green saying that he will turn off the projection software. It's probably because of that. No new votes have been counted and won't be until Tuesday.
>>79519471
Seconding this. He's a top bloke.
How many seats does Katten have?
He is the hero Australia needs.
>>79519762
Narcissistic generation who has been lead to believe they are the best thing ever focusing on the only skill they learned from their overpriced, unnecessary and impractical degrees.
>>79519692
Reminder that this is wrong, so wrong, wrong wrong wrong wrong
>>79520667
Yeah because his software breaks in 3 way contests and he was talking about the show. It's still being updated. Libs BTFO
>67
>67
>>79520552
>>79520592
ABC are left wing shills and have avoided talking about One Nation also.
THIS IS THE OFFICIAL TOLL AND THE ONLY WEBSITE PAGE YOU SHOULD BE FOLLOWING.
http://vtr.aec.gov.au/HouseDefault-20499.htm#
http://vtr.aec.gov.au/HouseDefault-20499.htm#
http://vtr.aec.gov.au/HouseDefault-20499.htm#
>>79520692
He lsot. 0.02 Quota. he's gone.
>>79520695
1. Only his.
>>79520173
If modern Australian society won't let a man sit next to their child on a plane what makes you think they'll let men teach them?
>>79519762
Useful idiots have always considered themselves to be intellectual powerhouses.
>>79520797
>3 way contests
The only three way contest is in Melbourne Ports and the Jew looks like he will hold on.
>>79520807
This is the official results, nothing else.
http://vtr.aec.gov.au/HouseDefault-20499.htm
the reddit tourists made aus/pol/ insufferable. Why can't they go back to /r/australia and stay there? You have to go back!
>>79520926
lel, Libs are doing even worse in that one.
>>79520811
>70-68
TURNKIKE ON SUICIDE WATCH
Time to pack it up boys, bed time for all of us.
Labor won, gg, but we can sleep knowing Pauline won.
Why aren't they counting anything until Tuesday? Seems a bit weird.
>>79521020
>mudslimes are better than jews
Btfo Achmed.
>>79521138
Postal votes.
>67
>67
wtf happened? whos in charge of this shit that you can lose 7 seats, shouldnt they only show confirmed seats?
>>79521168
That's me
>LIBERALFAGS ON SUICIDE WATCH
Hahaha Based Bill blew Malcolm THE FUCK OUT
Hung parliament imminent!
>>79520993
>>79521020
>>79521079
Bookmark that shit.
>>79521125
>bed time for all of us.
I woke up a few hours ago though.
>>79521138
Postal votes and to avoid espionage by night time counters
>>79521230
The only website you should be following, official AEC.
http://vtr.aec.gov.au/HouseDefault-20499.htm#
>>79521020
He shitposted his way through his victory speech like he won already. A true meme supreme.
>>79521255
How are things for you in nipland cunt?
You reminding them that asian women are for white cock? You better be.
>>79521138
No, I think they'll finish counting postal votes no later than Tuesday. Correct me if I'm wrong, senpai.
Any shitposter care to explain to an American what this all means?
My understanding so far is that Labor is actually conservative?
>>79519770
katter vs joyce
>>79521306
>http://vtr.aec.gov.au/HouseDefault-20499.htm#
oh great so ALP is going to win.. ffs if only every cunt under 26 didnt think that ALP winning mean that the NBN would all suddenly turn into fibre and be done.
fuck me, if ALP wins im over trying to save this country from going into debt and making the next 10 generations pay it off, Ill just mooch like every other cunt
>>79521337
Man, this reads like one of those cringed porn comments.
>>79521406
naw pal liberal is conservative
>>79521406
Liberal is conservative
>>79521406
No, labor is more liberal
>>79521406
Labor = left
Liberal = conservatives
>>79521406
No, Labor is leftist as fuck. And the Liberal Party here in Australia is actually conservative, confusingly enough.
>>79521337
Sure am. Seppo girls are the easiest though, fucking hell those cunts are loose.
>>79521480
>Man, this reads like one of those cringed porn comments.
You have to go back Chuan.
>>79521468
Le Libs know economy meme
>>79521332
to be fair the .gov site just has who's in front, not an indication of the end result r-right?
>>79521406
they're both conservative parties, one serves their rich globalist masters (libs) and the other serves the average australian (labor)
>>79521555
le labor are saviors of the economy meme
Back to /r/australia mate
>>79521602
>labor
>conservative
The 90s were a long time ago, friend
>>79521468
>m..m...m..muh debt!
Hahaha stupid cunt, gotta spend money to make money.
Then again, if the deficit is so important to you do you care that the Libs tripled it in their first 6 months?
>>79521468
>trying to save the country from debt
>supporting 50billion of corporate ax cuts.
TOPPEST OF KEKS
>>79521602
>the other serves the average australian
You mean serves their Union thug overlords.
>>79521602
When Labor starts serving SJWs and immigrants they're no longer serving the average australian.
>>79521468
>Liberals
>Maintaining a economy
Great joke anon!
>>79521555
considering under Libs we actually get out of debt and ALP puts us in it, yes they do.
i guess it could be worse, greens could be winning, and pushing their free arts degrees and shit
>>79521544
Dude, you're writing fantasies about some stranger having sex with Japanese women and them begging for HIS dick. I'm pretty sure that's how some porn producer got the idea for cuckold porn.
>>79521406
Both leaders are self-described male feminists, but only one has boobs and gets his photo taken with drag queens.
>>79521654
>>79521555
They both don't know what they're doing with the economy. Lets hope the next government that forms actually has a few competent economics advisors
>>79521694
How do we bring back conservative Labor lads? World War III?
>>79521694
That being said, Labor still looks out for the average worker more than Libs, who essentially just look after their big corporation mates with multi billion dollar tax cuts
>>79521748
>I have no idea about how an economy works
The national economy isn't a fucking household, Japan has 220% of their GDP in debt but you wouldnt be saying they are shitting the bed economically, at least not yet.
aussie lads what is the most redpilled party/candidate
>>79521532
>And the Liberal Party here in Australia is actually conservative, confusingly enough.
It's not confusing at all. The liberals = classical liberalism. Terms like liberalism and conservatism, right and left, haven't always meant the same thing as they do now.
>>79521542
brad?
>>79521694
Labor
>Didn't support gay marriage while in power
>Continues to lock up children in foreign countries
>Supported the Iraq war
>Fund private schools
They're conservative.
>>79521781
>Dude, you're writing fantasies about some stranger having sex with Japanese women
I was just copying the race-bait shitposting style that gets posted all over pol. I'm just having a giggle m8.
>>79521839
Pauline.
>>79521724
>Union thugs
HAHAHAHA
Get fucked mate, if you enjoy penalty rates, annual leave, sick days and universal health care you can thank the unions. This country was built off the backs of unions not poncy yuppie fucks.
>>79521602
Yeah I'm sure stuff like Tranny schools are for the average Australian.
Thanks Bill!
(time to pull your head out of the sand)
>>79521839
This by far
>>79521919
>>79516378
I really hope whoever knifes Turnbull gets knifed themselves less than two months later
I cant remember, but if we wanted to change the leader selection from party-based to voter-based, would we need a referendum?
>>79521839
Pauline from (One Nation).
http://www.onenation.com.au/policies/islam
>>79521873
Nah dude the Liberals and Liberal Nationals are conservative and the Liberal Democrats are classical liberalism
>>79521694
>>79521724
>>79521736
labors socialist schemes benefit white natives more than foreigners and the only difference between labor and liberals immigration policy is one is kept on shore while the other is kept off shore.
Your "muh immigrants" arguement falls flat on its face when infact the actual problem australia faces is chinese migration which has had no attention drawn to it by liberals AND the fact that countries outside of AU can buy properties in AU (something china is doing and the liberal party shills for)
You retards really do eat up whatever murdoch puts in the newspapers don't you
>>79521839
Don't listen to your replies, (((redpilled))) candidates and parties here are either retards or cucks, we have no /pol/ tier registered parties except the lolbertarians
A close win to the Libs/hung parliament was a pretty predictable result. The senate is what I'm really looking forward to seeing.
I use to vote Labor I probably would have voted for them but not under Shorten and all their leftie followers maybe this is just what /pol/ does to people idk but seeing all the retards who vote Labor support open immigration to Australia and just call Liberal voters racist and bigots drew me more to the Libs side.
If this safe school shit gets pushed into schools by these labor fags, I'll leave this god forsaken hell hole of a country for good.
>>79521406
Our country has now become stagnant and we will soon have (when Turnbull gets knifed) 6 leaders over what 6 or 9 years.
Labor will win the next election where they (Trade Unions) and the Greens (communists) will run the country and the only true opposition will be fucking Pauline Hanson, a meme Trump light with 1/4 the IQ.
The one good take away is that a million people are voting for minor right wing parties and their ideas are growing. The Liberals despite winning are now going to have to concede 2019 and regroup their entire voter base to come back in 2022 with the support of the grown minor parties and maybe....we'll start reversing our socialist direction.
We'll have a fucking GFC and economic collapse before then for sure. 100%
>>79520014
I liked it when Leigh Sales ordered a pizza
They also got the exclusive drunk Barnaby Joyce interview
>>79521928
I personally appreciate it when bosses don't lock the doors to force you to work overnight and there's a fire starts and hundreds of people burn to death because they couldn't get out.
Free markets are bonza
>>79522102
Pauline is now claiming that she doesn't dislike Asians at all and never did
Cuckservative at best
>>79522019
actually, Libs want to keep doing what they are doing
ALP wants to only turn back boats IF the boat can make it back to indoland under its own power and raise the intake of immigrats to 27k
meanwhile the greens want it up to 50k
>>79521833
But when it comes to SME owners, Labor are pretty blatantly awful. Libs at least put up a facade of caring. They're also not great for the agricultural sector.
>>79521829
When they stop targetting the Greens vote by being socially left. Realising that they're "socialist" in the sense that they're owned by the unions and they can use that to target lefties was the death of good Labor.
>>79521839
One Nation or LDP probably. RiseUp are fucking terrible.
>>79522084
Don't wait just kys
>>79521873
Makes sense. Isn't classical liberalism the same as libertarianism?
>>79522046
I don't like the way the senate is going because instead of a large crossbench of minor parties it's literally going to be Pauline with 3-5 senators. Crazy times we live in.
>>79521990
No you'd need to convince the parties to change their own rules. Which they'll never do. Why join a party if anyone can have a say in their leader/policy?
The referendum doens't even acknowledge political parties.
>>79522188
I want the asian invasion to fuck off.
>>79521928
You daft cunt, the unions weren't responsible for any of that. They wormed their way into those sectors to leech off the money gained from it. They are a cancer on this country and intentionally sabotage anything that they can't control. You're probably too young to remember back when they were actively blocking anyone from working on a Union controlled site who wasn't part of their thug group.
Labor is the puppet government for Union shitcunts.
Politics in this country is a fucking joke anyway. Little doubt that Turnbull is getting replaced after this so we'll go into the 2019 election with another cunt we haven't actually elected. And just like Labor before, the Libs are losing their grip on government a term into power.
>>79522211
Kek, how on earth did she do so well? I thought One Nation died out in the early 2000s.
>>79522067
>I'm a fucking retard who votes based on whose the leader instead of voting for the party I have the most in common with
If you're rich or stupid you vote Liberals.
>>79521532
>Labor is leftist as fuck.
lol no
centre left and centre right (liberal)
>>79521839
none of them really
libs are neoliberal globalists
labs are socialists, but the modern kind, which means they're just bourgeois
greens are homosexual commie muslim lovers
libertarians have the right idea, but just get buttmad at everything (think ben garrison flipout)
one nation is a populist/nationalist meme party, but probably the most /pol/
australian liberty alliance are anti muslim but pretty much useless at getting their message across because they cuck out at every turn (fucking "we're not racist but..."-style shit, at least pauline and one nation has some fucking balls)
family first are the main christian party, but i honestly think they're too stupid to realize how bad their PR is
and a plethora of retarded single issue parties, some fringe far right parties and a handful of commies and meme candidates.
>>79522317
She's in QLD where the chinks buy up heaps of the land and ruin it. Her views are listened to up in sunburnia
>>79522317
Edgilicious ISIS music videos woke some people up
>>79521406
Both parties are pretty centred, but..
>Labor
Progressive, trade unionism, protectionism
>Liberal
Conservative, big business, free trade
Liberals (who are in power) called a double dissolution election (both the house of reps and senate are dissolved and all seats are up for election) because the senate kept blocking a bill - the idea being that they gain more seats in the senate and can pass the bill.
Now the results are almost in and there is no clear majority. The Liberals have lost a lot of seats in the house of reps.
If neither party reach 76 seats, then it's a 'hung parliament' and they will need to negotiate with the minors/independents (who hold 5 seats so far) in order to gain their support and form a 'minority government'. If they fail to negotiate and reach 76 seats then another election will be called.
>>79522317
it did, she's riding back in on the coattails of 'reclaim australia' and all that shit.
dumb woman, smart move
>>79522199
Labor do a hell of a lot more for agriculture than Mike "Lets ruin all our freshwater sources via fracking" Baird
Whatever happens it could always be far worse.
>>79521576
Tim Wilson is pretty much Milo without the excessive faggotry. He also seems like he has some developed views.
I hope he does get a seat.
>>79522317
No idea. I think she got really angry over halal labelling even though it's as harmless as heart foundation or kocher labelling and brought the party back and picked up the racist vote.
>>79522393
It's not just Queensland. She might also grab seats in NSW, WA and even Victoria of all places.
>>79521905
Jesus, you sound like a Greens shill. They also want to cut private school funding by a fair chunk, backpedalled hard on the middle east, and are now obsessed with gay marriage.
>>79522019
Except I didn't bring migrants up. Labor has begun to target the lefty uni student demographic more and more as they've basically got all union votes in the bag.
Lab vs Lib used to be employee vs employer but that's changing.
Just wait until Tanya takes control when Shorten's popularity plummets
>>79522290
>bosses just gave us penalty rates because they're so nice
KEKSERVATIVE TO THE END.
>>79522317
She came in with a huge anti-muslim stance which resonates with conersvatives and a lot of people in the country. If /pol/ is anything to go by people wanted the meme Trump candidate too.
This was all well and good when she was going to get her seat in QLD but 3-5?! Goodbye LDP, goodbye Family First and fuck all chance for Katter, say hello to Pauline, Jaquie Lambie and the Greens.
>>79522485
Good.
>>79522457
halal labelling isnt harmless.
its literally companies paying to put a badge on their food which they have to pay for which goes to Muslims.
when you are paying muslims money to say chocolate doesn't contain meat you fucked up
>>79522290
>Thug group
Are you aware that the last investigations into the Unions yielded zero convictions? Unions are only as strong as they are because of the capital they obtain from the workers fighting for better rights. Or perhaps you can tell me where we did get penalty rates/annual leave/sick days and universal healthcare from? I'm dying to know
>>79521576
Go to bed Tony elbows I know it's you shitposting on my.board
>>79522290
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtZ-uGbrC64
here ya go lad
>inb4 friendlyjordies hate with no actual sourced and cited arguments as presented in the videos
>>79521406
Labor is centre left and Liberal is centre right
They all have different factions within the parties though.
For example the PM Malcolm Turnbull is head of the party and centre left on social issues and centre right on economic issues. Liberals form a coalition with the Nationals so they can come to power who are all pretty right wing. That's why the deputy PM is a member of the Nationals (to appease them). They don't like him because he is too socially liberally.
Labor has a right wing faction and a left wing faction which causes a lot of in fighting as well.
Liberal/Labor have the same immigration policies, detention centres were actually set up under a Labor government in the 90s.
The only true left party is the Greens
>>79522558
For some strange reason, Hanson and Lambie dislike each other even though they agree on pretty much every issue. Bogans, I swear.
>>79522664
>friendlyjordies
yeah nah fuck off m8
get in there shorten u animal
>67 - 67
We hung naow?
>>79522067
I feel exactly how you do friend. Our pollies are fucking shit and we get what we deserve.
>labor in front on the AEC site
The FTTP dream ain't dead yet boys
>>79522416
You mean Mike 'I will not sell off state electricity' Baird the Pole and Wire salesman?
>>79522516
>They also want to cut private school funding by a fair chunk, backpedalled hard on the middle east, and are now obsessed with gay marriage.
You expect Labor to keep promises? They only adopted these positions to counter rising Green popularity.
And Labor do NOT want to cut private school funding, which this year exceeded the funding we give to PUBLIC universities. When Labor initiated the Gonski review they gave him one rule: don't touch private schools. I voted Socialist Alliance because they're out there saying fuck the private schools.
Private schools can FUCK RIGHT OFF with my money. Just think. Australian taxpayer money is being given to disgusting Islamic, Catholic and rich as fuck Protestant schools just because politicians are afraid of losing votes and/or went to those schools themselves. it's a fucking disgrace. if you want to unite this country, you don't fund sectarian schools.
>>79522290
>>79522522
see this is why i'm so conflicted on labor
i understand the importance of unions, but australia has had it so good since the 1980's that the unions essentially serve no useful purpose other than to bully, and are highly, highly susceptible to corruption.
the moment we scrap them, though, the abue of power just switches sides to the employers instead. how the fuck do you balance this?
>>79522664
the cunt is literally on the union payroll this is readily known
>>79522768
The only website you should be following, official AEC.
http://vtr.aec.gov.au/HouseDefault-20499.htm#
>>79522457
All the real right-wingers got pissed when Moderate-Mal knifed Tony, and went looking for an an alternative to what they saw as a soft, politically correct Liberal Party.
That, combined with the already growing anti-islam sentiment that's been growing over the past few years.
Is it over yet?
>people dont know that in a hung situation the greens will join labor which gives those greens more power than they deserve
>this means your 6yo will learn about trannies in school
gg
>>79522590
Certification opens up their product to foreign markets it doesn't fund terrorism it makes the business who gets the certification money
>>79522607
One conviction thusfar, more ongoing. Christ, mate, at least check before posting
>>79522864
Didn't Labor tell the Greens to fuck off?
>>79522838
meant for
>>79522317
Ayo /pol/ what the fuck. Their ABC says there is a 67 seat tie and speculates Labor will win 6 of the remaining seats. Was Antony Green listening to a word ScoMo was saying about postal votes.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/federal-election-2016/results/
http://www.abc.net.au/news/federal-election-2016/results/list/?selector=indoubt
I want a refund on this election shit
>>79522664
>posts a fucking youtube video
>a youtube video of friendlyjordies (of all people)
>expects to be taken seriously
>bu but muh friendlyjordies hate! pl-plz watch this video
Please remove yourself from this board immediately. Thank you.
>>79522937
The only website you should be following, official AEC.
http://vtr.aec.gov.au/HouseDefault-20499.htm#
>>79522802
Can't. just have to let it swing back and forth.
>>79522516
Shouldn't private schools be funded by privately as the very definition of their name implies? I'm willing to hear why they should get funding, I'm just not sure what the point of rich parents paying 30k a year per head of each child would still need government funding?
>>79522859
looks like another hung parliament, so fuck no
>>79522423
You sure?
They even have the same phony sounding articulation.
>>79522802
You balance that by becoming an active member of your union and take a stand against corruption. I am totally with you that unions are corrupt and fucked out but that's only because all the regular members left them.
That Coles employee who took his union to court (and won) over them conspiring with the bosses to scrap penalty rates should be Australian of the year I rekcon.
>>79522590
But your chocolate is now available to billions of new customers. Halal and kosher certifications make you money
>>79522978
>Adelaide
wut
when and where was this?
>>79522590
It's for exporting to those countries
You really want companies to loss profits over a label, it's like the stupid live export ban
>>79522784
why do you people think this shit...
first off ALP said they would honor all HFC contracts, that means literally, LITERALLY nothing changes NBN wise for 4 years, and they only said they would do 2mil more FTTP installs, which considering how many businesses that accounts for it changes to such a little amount once you do it over the whole country, we are talking like 1 more area per state.
pro tip, if you are on the list for "NBN" within the next 3 years you arent getting fibre you are getting HFC which means you have a zero chance of getting FTTP
>>79523050
cory bernardi's office around the time of the safe schools debacle
>>79522983
Fucks sake.
>>79522979
Conservatives can't do anything about private funding, it would be political suicide.
It would need to be a bi-partisan move, but because the ball is ultimately in Liberals court; why bother? They can secure the private school vote.
It would be like Labor saying "yeah we should cut corporate tax completely"; it would ultimately benefit Australia, but it is political suicide.
>>79522864
the greens and labor aren't friends anymore, and the greens got sweet fuck all so they have no leverage
keep up you soft minded cunts
>>79522911
>One conviction
You mean that dude who had to allegedly build a roof for free? Who then ended up being some nutjob who pulled a gun on a union official?
Do you honestly think we should be having a royal commission into Unions but not banks?
>>79522859
Not till Tuesday probably. Because the election is so close the postal votes are going to matter and they still have to go through the post
>>79523050
Senator Bernardi's office, not sure if it was last year
>>79523050
Leftists trashed Cory Bernardi's office a few months ago.
Who do we root here
>>79522979
they get 11 BILLION DOLLARS of funding. We need to GET MAD and demand that money either pay down debt of goto universities. Hung parliaments like this new one are the BEST time for us to get involved because every cross bencher or wanna be populist will listen to us. Get Pauline behind this, get Di Natale behind this. Get Derryn behind this and it'll happen.
Hint: that money would be enough to make university free.
Who is the most comparable candidate to our good haired weed man?
>>79523098
>>79523126
>>79523145
Ahww shit man that's not even that far away from me and I missed it
>>79522940
Wow what a wonderful rebuttal, you sure showed me! It's as if you completely avoided the argument because it's brought in the form of comedy. Ripping stuff cunt
>>79521406
liberals = aussie public gets fucked in the ass by banks
labor = aussie public gets fucked in the ass by unions
choose your poison
>>79522918
yeah, but bill shorten isn't going to stand by that if it stops him becoming pm
>>79519740
Based Tone is sitting at home right now celebrating by getting plastered. Turnbull is Julia Gillard now in every sense, hes going to get his revenge and the liberal party will be great again.
>>79522940
What's wrong with friendlyjordies?
>>79523115
>2016
>not having royal commissions into literally everything
>all the scum are locked up answering questions and are too busy preparing excuses and defenses to actually fuck the country
>>79523182
http://www.visitlismore.com.au/nimbin/about-nimbin/faces-of-nimbin/michael-balderstone/p/737
>ALP is pulling ahead
Fuck me, we are going to lose out on the plebiscite aren't we?
I guess I just need to look on the bright side that the fucking boomers are going to lose out on their negative gearing.
This is going to be insane. The senate will come down to preferences for a few seats and no one knows how that will go with the voting reforms.
With the old rules alot of minor parties would get in/retain their seats but with the way it is now anything could happen. Greens could get preferneces and keep their 10 or get none and go down to 8, Pauline Hanson would've gotten 1 or 2 but now she could get 3-5 fuckin who knows.
>>79521491
WTF?!?!
IT'S LIKE EVERYTHING DOWN UNDER IS BACKWARDS!!
>>79522979
I didn't argue in favour of it, just stated Labor's position. But:
The public school system can't handle the current amount of students
The cheapest solution is to give some money to private schools so they can alleviate the burden by reducong costs
It should still be cut by a portion though, just not entirely.
Also 30k? Fuck, literally only some in Sydney and Melbourne. Most are far far cheaper, like 99%.
>>79522787
>Socialist Alliance
Nice b8
>>79523181
nah senpai, hockey said we're already entitled enough :^)
THIS JUST IN
LABOR HAS TAKEN ANOTHER SEAT FROM THE COALITION
GET YOUR NOOSES READY LIBKEKS
THE SCORE IS NOW 67 - 71
>>79522979
They get more than local public schools. This is well known and reported on.
Some Catholic schools are pretty povo, but places like Joeys, Kings, Newington, SCECGS and Trinity get millions.
>71-67
LIBERALS ON SUICIDE WATCH
>>79523261
>a lone sniper shot rings out.jpg
>>79523082
considering how badly the libs have fucked us over with FTTN contracts and what have you extending the FTTP rollout to the 2 million premises that haven't been contracted yet is REALISTICALLY the only way to get a better result without causing yet more delays to the rollout
it's a fucking ramp DOWN of FTTN and a ramp UP of FTTP
>>79523181
Really? Fuck that, why do they get that much money?
>>79523299
She's going to get 2 max
GO EMUBROS!
>>79523182
Richard Di Natale
>Doctor
>Supports Gay Marriage
>Smokes weed erryday
>Wants to gaol the bankers
>Sexy as fuck
>>79523182
Bill shorten, him and weed man hatched from the same clutch of rotten eggs desu
>>79523229
How have the aussie public ever gotten fucked in the ass by unions? You realize if you do the smart thing by actually joining a union every cent you pay is essentially tax deductable
>GOD TIER
Greens
>HIGH TIER
Labor
>MEDIOCRE TIER
Coalition
>I WANT REDDIT TO LEAVE TIER
One Nation
Donkey Vote
>>79523260
makes insecure right wing cunts feel stupid in comedy form so they get salty
>f-f-friendlyjordies haha f-fuck o-off hahaha
>>79523318
>The cheapest solution is to give some money to private schools so they can alleviate the burden by reducong costs
Nice reasoning skills
>>79523318
I just remember here in Adelaide our most expensive pvt school was 50k a year and the average was sitting around 10/15
Still a fuck load of money.
>>79523338
LIBKEKS ON SUICIDE WATCH
>>79523444
> How have the aussie public ever gotten fucked in the ass by unions?
How old are you? Right wing/left wing?
>>79523510
>muh political humor. it make me smart. me big boy now!
>>79523082
this gives a bit of an insight into why the labor policy is what it is, good read
http://blog.jxeeno.com/why-is-hfc-and-fttn-still-in-labors-nbn/
>>79523373
Really
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-05-03/budget-2016-sliced-diced-interactive/7363834#spending/breakdown/2017/education
because
>muh catholics can't afford to goto private school and learn about god!
And
>If we don't subsidise private schools, they'll jsut goto public schools!
Which is like saying we should subsisde buying cars incase people use too much public transport.
>>79523318
http://infogr.am/1arLVilYNEQPnw3j
>Labor was paying $5.50 to win on Sportsbet a week ago
>I didn't get on it
FFFFFFFFFFFFF-
>>79523338
>>79523587
Glad I voted Labor and not the Libcucks.
>>79523617
I just want an answer my dude
>>79523338
Turnbull prepped Shorten into his position.
>>79523646
Wait so they spend more on non-government schools than they do government schools?
How does that make sense?
>>79523715
Superannuation.
>>79523649
They were paying $8 for Brexit.
Still kicking myself.
>>79523621
>muh edgy rw cuckery
>because it's funny it's wrong!
i bet you meme voted for pauline pantsdown you fucking fedora
>>79523748
LIBERALS
>>79523649
>Labor was $9 this morning
Blunder of the century
>>79523563
>public sector can't handle the burden
>money granted to preexisting private sector so they can help
>doing so is cheaper than expanding public sector
m8, wot?
Anyway, lads, going to sleep
>67
>67
>11 in doubt
H U N G
U
N
G
So do you think Hofer will win the recount? Van der Bellen's attitude post victory speech might rub people the wrong way.
>>79523651
>Wants to stop refugees
>Votes Labor of all parties
Is this a joke?
>>79521406
>http://www.abc.net.au/news/federal-election-2016/results/
as i understand it:
labor - normie left party
greens - problem glasses
liberals - main conservative party, pretty kekd these day
national - farmers' party, mostly folded into liberals now
katter, xenophon, etc. - meme candidates
>>79522440
he does, he walked in.
hope that lad that put 8k down on the labs didn't chicken out
>>79523510
I just find him incredibly irritating to watch and listen to.
No idea why.
>>79523814
No this is the official so far.
http://vtr.aec.gov.au/HouseDefault-20499.htm#
>>79523830
Explain yourself retard.
>>79523847
Sounds spot on to me.
>>79523363
the delays are relative to the plans either party has, its all because of 1970's telstra, their whole system was built on such a tight budget it needed to be completely replaced in most areas that wheres built in 1990+
instead of paying 300 a job (its more but my company is payed 300 for an easy job) they are paying 1500 on a job where it all needs to be replaced, and thats only from the street to the house, that doesn't cover costs on aspestos pits and shit in the street.
if telstra wasnt so shit in the 70's you could literally do 5 houses for the cost of 1 in certian areas. which also slows down the install speed by about the same.
really if ALP wins, you don't want to see our house appear on the NBN website for 3 years or you are getting cucked.
it also doesnt help with the amount of people these programs go through, the whole NBN system goes through far to many middle men.
>>79523748
All the Lib pollies are alumni.
>>79523796
/r/australia is calling.
quick, better go get those up-votes.
>>79523875
it's because he is good looking and knows what he is talking about and that threatens insecure people
yes please be another hung parliament, maybe they will start coming out with more radical policies
>>79523826
wrong aus-pol thread m8, also yes he will win, yes there will be a referendum and yes, Austria will leave the eu, team up with switserland and Liechtenstein and create the High-Conglomerate of the Mountainpeople
>>79523510
>haha a comedian told me what to think these right wingers sure are btfo
>I'm gonna stutter type to reinforce my point
>>79523651
>he doesnt know labor is making that intake number 27k by 2025
>>79523748
Well, state governments primarily fund public schools, especially paying teachers which is the bulk of the cost. but yes. the federal government pays more money to private schools than public schools even though public schools have more students. It's so fucked. Gonski partially rectifies this imbalance but Labor are still too scared to touch it cos private school parents are a powerful demographic. Fuckwits like>>79523318 will claim funding private education is cheaper but it's bullshit. People will still send their kids to private schools if this money was cut and Public schools will be able to handle the slight increase in enrollemnts. In fact they'll be better equipped to deliver advanced courses due to economices of scale.
THis policy has it's roots in the 70s but it was Howard who dramatically expanded the funding of private schools because he's a total fuckwit and literally didn't know how to spend all the money Australia was rolling in thanks to China buying all our iron ore.
>>79523898
Explain what? Labor wants to increase immigration, clown.
>>79522106
>>79522409
>>79522669
Thanks for explaining this shit to me guys.
I've asked a shitload of times over the last couple days, but this is the only time anyone responded.
Much appreciated
>>79524068
>he doesnt know that immigration is beneficial for the economy
>>79523769
You realize it was Howard that forced legislation for it to go into your employers choice?
I mean you can go an industry superfund right? If you actually join a union backed industry fund you'll end up with 100's of thousands more by retirement
Better start tying your nooses lads.
>>79523847
Xenophon's not a meme.
Katter is a meme.
>mostly folded into liberals now
They are in a formal coalition. The Libs can't get in without the National party. All these seat counts include Liberal/National seats together.
Labor are on their own.
They're still counting lads, this is still updating:
http://vtr.aec.gov.au/HouseDefault-20499.htm
Things aren't looking as good for the libs as they did two hours ago, hung parliament looking more likely by the second unless the libs can pull loads of the 'close' seats currently projected to end up on labor
>>79523847
Nailed it
>>79524131
>isnt a cuck
>totally white
>>79523813
>going to sleep
Don't wake up you filthy Liberal apologist. You're the reason the working man gets fucked everyday.
>>79524131
>migrants are boatnigs
>don't assimilate into communities after arriving
>live off centrelink, don't work skilled positions
>beneficial for the economy
are all laborfags this retarded?
>>79523847
>xenophon
Kek. They sound like an antifa party.
Either that or they help ET phone home.
>>79524212
>Can't argue
>Can't face economic reality
>Scared of immigrants
>wimp
>>79516378
>extra flags for 4chan
Oh, the data mining application that uploads your IP to anyone who wants to know it?
I'll get right on that.
Just let me also install Skype, Windows 10, Discord, Facebook, Apple products, and Google chrome.
>>79524212
>le cuck meme
>doesn't change views even in the fact of overwhelming evidence in the field of economics.
Really regretting not putting a few bucks on labor when I looked at the odds a few days ago and they were up around $14
>>79524156
They're not counting a heap of close and undecided seats.
Hung parliament, liberal victory by 1 or 2 seats. ABC went from 4 undecided, to 6, and then to 11. Something very fishy is up.
>>79524173
No, they stopped at 2am.
We'll know Tuesday night.
>>79523960
>really if ALP wins, you don't want to see our house appear on the NBN website for 3 years or you are getting cucked.
My area's in the three-year rollout plan, so I've consigned myself to my fate of being on FTTN. But at least with this policy of extending the FTTP footprint out to more premises, we'll have a better platform in the future to extend that footprint out to the FTTN and HFC areas.
It's shit, I didn't want it to be like this but it's where we are.
>>79524304
They're 'Radical Centre' populists.
>>79524304
it's the guys surname
>>79524125
No worries mate
>>79523649
They were paying $8 on labor yesterday, chucked $10 on + bonus $10. Gonna make $150 mang feels good
>>79524018
>Austria will leave the eu, team up with switserland and Liechtenstein and create the High-Conglomerate of the Mountainpeople
Made me kek
>>79524324
Fuck off you brown or chinky cunt we are full,
We hate you
So /pol/, what do you believe had the biggest impact to cause this 3-4% national swing towards labor?
I personally think it was the "Liberals are going to abolish Medicare" claim made by Labor. Most people seem to vote against policies rather than for them, and for anyone on the fence I believe this is what pushed them to vote labor (or give them the 2nd or 3rd preferences). It has now pretty much been confirmed by just about anyone who investigated this claim to be entirely false........ I'm not sure whether I should feel amused or saddened by this.
>>79524295
They will save our economy by breaking windows.
>>79523875
Well he'll grow on you m8, he probably makes a video making fun of people you hate.
Like stupid cunts in Bali
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96NrIz_khQM
>>79524304
his name is Nick Xenophone..
>>79524295
That's wrong, but keep believing your racist uncle who just "totally knows the issues better than them ivory tower fucks!"
>>79524295
Why would anyone expect them to assimilate when multiculturalism exists.
What the fuck is going on?
People posting turnbull victory pics, people saying labor btfo of libs, saying labor is gonna take the win
Can someone tell me who won, if nobody has won who is likely to win?
>>79524304
Xenophon is some guy's surname.
>>79524295
>Not realising the economy needs growing consumption
>not realising menial labour immigrants serve an important purpose at the bottom rung of society allowing natives to progress up the social ladder.
Stop trying to use economics to justify your racism.
>71-67
malheeb on shoahcide watch
>>79524265
Calm down, man
>>79524449
Nobody in this thread has any idea what the fuck is happening
All I want is a government that puts the Australian people first.
Is that really too much to ask?
>>79524131
>having a discussion with a Labor voter with the agreed point that immigration is bad
>I point out Labor want to increase immigration
>then comes this retard; "but immigration is good"
>>79523782
I got that one, at least.
Continue here
>>79510989
>>79510989
>>79510989
>>79524331
yes god forbid someone gets my public internet address I can just change on a fucking whim
>>79524356
>>79524400
Oh. I thought it was like some liberal fags trying to create a catchy phrase like "xenophon" to be the opposite of "xenophobic."
>>79524125
no worries
>>79524516
Lucky duck
>>79524461
>Country Liberals
>0 seats
F
>>79524515
Immigration isn't bad, your entire discussion is based on shit.
>>79524024
>haha a comedian told me the facts complete with sources done by independent researchers
Fixed that
>>79524388
>don't have a policy to vote against?
>why not fabricate one?
>good goyim won't know the difference
Left wing voters are impressionable idiots. Right wing voters are selfish idiots.
>>79524405
Why tf would you want any non-white immigrants?
Don't be a cuck aussie.
>>79524304
Xenophon's the guy's name.
He's ridiculously pro-South Australia, anti-gambling & anti-Scientology
Also, looking a lot like a Labor/Greens government, lads.
/pol/ btfo
>>79523164
a/s/l?
Please don't let Bill "Last time we had Jap subs, they were in bloody Sydney Harbour" Shorten win.
Self-defence is not a vehicle for pandering..
>>79524449
Labor is on 71 seats (14 close leads)
Liberal is on 67 seats (12 close)
7 not yet determined
It doesn't seem like Liberals have a chance at a majority and Labor might possibly pull it off but more likely than not we'll get a hung parliament.
>>79524514
Yes, intolerant goy.
Start the National Socialist Party of Australia if you hate globalist cuckery so much.
>>79524624
>haha a comedian told me the facts
I stopped reading there.
>>79524088
Couldn't they use that funding for elite government secondary schools instead? This shit negates the point of private schools and makes absolutely no sense. The private schools would then need to compete by providing even more high quality education in the secondary school market making it a win-win. How the fuck did the Liberals not get this?
>>79524642
>He's ridiculously pro-South Australia
Well someone has to be. We're basically fucked.
>>79519762
>UoM
There's ya problem right there. Fuck'n Flat white sippin, plug eared sportin Lefty hipster bearded cunts.
>>79524640
Because it is a net-gain to the economy.
Because I'm not racist
Because I'm not stupid
Because I love foreign food.
>>79524405
if it was really wrong, why doesn't the Australian council for Refugees disclose the numbers of 2015 and 2016?
instead they always point towards the numbers of 10 to 5 years ago, and say "look, it's not that much" while there is a steep incline in the numbers between 2006 and 2011, which is most likely progressing
>>79524295
Get fucked cunts I love our Vietnamese accents, weird as fuck after like two generations these cunts get the most true blue accents and sink 30 packs of VB every other day.
Plus I love the greek cunts in the chip shops
>>79524143
> If you actually join a union backed industry fund you'll end up with 100's of thousands more by retirement
No you won't. Retards dont understand superannuation. REST doesn't perform at x% and Australian Super doesn't perform at x%. The investment options inside them perform at x%.
The Union funds have around 4-10 optioms whereas a retail fund will give you like 50 and a retail wrap will give you like 600.
Also their default balanced fund performance is skewed by unlisted illiquid assets with dodgy valuation methods setting us up for a retirement crisis alongside the centrelink crisis. Not just that but hidden fees on the back end, corruption of the life/disability insurance industry (comminsure was largely group insurance through industry funds) and to top it off there's now the Labor + Union collusion on infrastructure funding with our retirement savings.
The list goes on mate.
>>79524615
>Someone who hasn't been to Sydney in recent times.
How about you come down from your Ivory Tower and walk among the plebs you cunt. Come and see what immigration has done for this Country. Then try and tell me its a good thing.
Get real.
>>79524388
desu I wouldn't be surprised if it was the mass enrollment of younger voters this year
>>79524739
http://www.refugeecouncil.org.au/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/RCOA-Annual-Report-2015-WEB.pdf
5 seconds googling seem to bring this information up
>>79524743
Fuck off cuck.
>>79524779
Its pointless to even try. A cuck gets off on destroying his country.
>>79524682
He's right.
The only immigration any aussie should support is from whites.
>>79523043
Halal isn't kosher don't start that shit it's not the same ask any Orthodox Jew. Peasant
>>79524779
You think immigration in essence is the reason why these communities are struggling?
Not the economic/social policies which keep them marginalised.
Ok.
>>79524932
is cuck the new "epic"/"SJW"/"leftie", I love your buzzwords little Alt-righters!
We're in here now
>>79510989
>>79510989
>>79524634
The stupidity of the majority of people in Aus never ceases to amaze me.
The ironic thing is that most Labor voters will be happy that they were blatantly lied to because "their side" got more votes.
>>79524722
>"...because I'm a fucking idiot who lives in a 92% white country and never had to deal with living around other races"
There I finished that for you.
>>79524449
Nobody has won yet, but there's a good chance the Coalition will reach a majority. If they can't then we'll have a hung parliament and they'll need support from the independents/minors in order to form a government, and if they cant do that then we'll go to another election.
Regardless, they've suffered massive losses which will make passing bills a lot more difficult in the future. The conservatives who backed Abbott won't be too happy with Mal - just read this friendly letter to him from Andrew Bolt
http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/comments/malcolm_turnbull_you_are_finished/
>>79524984
>marginalised
Ok, see now I know for a fact you are a reddit tourist. If you were a regular you would know how retarded this argument is.
>>79524961
>both don't eat pork
>both circumcise
>both are from the middle east
Yeah ok m8
>>79524984
yes you fucking moron, its basic economic...The more supply of labor the less labor costs.
>>79524695
Liberals are idiots.
If you hypnotised Malcolm Turnbull and asked him if the government should fund schools he'd say "no"
>>79525031
Its not a buzz word its a concise description of who you are as a human being
>>79524752
>This damage control
Just face it cunt, turns out the banks are worse at investing money than unions.
>>79525130
>I have never read a single paper on economics, or any other social science.
Thanks for your shitty input, can you get a fucking education first before trying to influence and discuss politics? Thanks!
>>79525237
Yeah, you got me boiled down to a science lmfao.
Congratulations on separating yourself from the rest of the comments.
crtl+f "cuck" 1/21
>>79525306
>banks are worse at investing money than unions
Unions invest money in banks desu.
>>79525481
He's trying to claim that union controlled super funds perform worse than retail super funds. This is factually wrong.
>>79525481
Oh wait I'm talking to an American. NEVER-THE-FUCK-MIND!
>>79525473
>I know the boats overcrowded and we are sinking, but the solution is more people on the boat! That will do the trick!
Ok, Mr. Uni student.
>>79524961
Dumb nigga. I live with Jews. Halal and kosher are both just fucked up rules that were put in holy books back in the day to stop their people from getting sick.
>>79525473
Yes you're a cuck...Its so obvious what the rich are doing.The top 10% hold 90% of the wealth any time the bottom 90% get a hold of more % of the wealth they add more people to the bottom 90% so they keep their % of power.
>>79525607
No it's not dickhead.
You have all the default funds in the country doing 8.5/9/9.2/9.7% while the people who actually understand the system are in a growth fund or a real return fund or whatever getting 16% over the same period.
The simple fact is that the Unions have corrupted superannuation, I'm sorry you're dumb as dog shit and don't know how the system actually works beyond what Mel and Koshy tell you on Channel 7 news.
>>79521835
implying japan doesn't have one of the worst economies in the developed world
>1.41 birth rate
>lost decade
>nikkei free falls under the slightest market uncertainty
>keynesian economics
>nearing fiscal colapse
>kill yourself
>>79526254
Are you a bernie bro or a Trumpet?
You have no idea about economies so you could be either.
>>79525677
That isn't my solution, unlike you I've actually spent some time on this issue.
>>79526438
This is bait
>>79526512
>That isn't my solution
Mother fucker you just said immigration is good. You cry about struggling communities and then wonder why they continue to decline as you add more and more people.
>Dude poverty + poverty = magic wealth!
Keep rambling on about your useless Uni degree though. I'm sure the teachers love sheep like you.
>>79526765
not an argument
>>79524689
Are ad hominem attacks all you can resort to?
>>79526910
Immigration is good, a very large swathe of economic field is against you; read motherfucker.
>poverty + poverty = magic wealth
What does this even mean?
>>79526920
Not wasting brain power on someone who uses keynesian economics as a buzzword like that, it's like when people say "neoliberal"; I stop paying attention.
>>79527132
still not an argument
>>79523211
>>79523260
but its not even funny he just rips on peoples style as a defence mechanism and his jokes are normally one big straw man
>>79527132
>Immigration is good, a very large swathe of economic field is against you; read motherfucker.
AKA
>My uni teacher showed me some heavily suggesting propaganda and I fell hook line and sinker.
also
>What does this even mean?
Your solution to struggling communities is to add MORE struggling communities. When everyone points out how fucking stupid this is you resort to "muh racism/oppression/marginalization/insertbuzzwordhere"
>>79527287
Here's an argument
Anything I tell you, you will just ignore. Why? Because you show a lack of any basic understanding on the topic straight off the bat.
So why would I bother?
>inb4 still not an argument
You're not going to listen, you'll gish gallop any discussion, so what's the point? You'll believe things even if 90% of economists disagree with you, how am I to sway such a mighty (anti) intellectual like yourself, who taught themselves from the greatest textbooks that /pol/ has to offer (Brietbart).
