https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SxW_VLn2CB4
One Church founded by Christ
One Faith founded by Christ
The Orthodox Church, the Orthodox faith
A pastebin with FAQ's and reading lists with links, to answer questions Catholics and Protestants and atheists and others might have: http://pastebin.com/bN1ujq2x
>>79099544
> people still believe in ancient fictional shit
>>79099703
>people still believe in Brussels
>>79099703
>i'm smarter than you, the post
Starting off addressing the assertion that nominal followers disproportionately skew eastern orthodox statistics:
The group attending "seldom or never" is comparable to the compared romanist and Baptist respondents to the pew survey
Thank you king of the merchants, you are truly my greatest ally
>>79099944
>implying evolution isn't the way God chose to make his creatures
>implying God didn't create the laws of nature
science merely studies what God gave us, anon
>>79100203
Human evolution is contrary to a direct reading of God's timeline in Genesis
>>79100203
>>implying evolution isn't the way God chose to make his creatures
Evolution works by itself. If you wish to postulate that it was guided, please design and perform an experiment which demonstrates that to be true.
>>79100152
>Christian women are the ones in a cult
>Christian women are the ones subject to conditioning
>Christian women are the ones easily controlled
>>79100422
It's not that it's guided, it's that God, knowing all, knew the exact conditions in which to start this dynamical system that we live in.
The Earth is flat
Dumping evidence of eastern orthodox followers' liberal ideology, reflective of anti-scriptural theology
>>79100068
Yeah, most nominal believers will go to church during Holy Week (that is something so incredibly I'm sure even anti-theists would find it beautiful).
There are a lot of nominal Orthodox because the religion is so bound up with ethnic heritage. When someone in America boasts of being Irish, doesn't make them that likely to identify as Catholic, but if someone boasts of being Greek, they will almost surely identify as Orthodox.
>>79100682
No, those systems are themselves part of God. As are you and I.
>>79100862
Your anecdotal evidence does not undercut the reality that eastern orthodox followers do not obey the Bible
>>79100991
He is in everything but this is also his creation.
>>79101065
>implying crusaders did anything wrong
fuck off with your retarded deism copout
>>79099544
>makong this exact thread again
Fuck off.
>>79100203
>>79100682
This is stupid. Why are you adding this unnecessary step with no proof?
>>79101119
>followers
dude, the big difference here is that it's common to identify as Orthodox or Catholic without really being one, while Evangelicals don't identify as such unless they're really into it.
On a more serious, non-shitposting note
What do christians of /pol/ think of this movie? Do you think it represents sterotypes, arguments and situations accuratly?
>>79101301
>this is stupid
Ad hominem. Not an argument.
>>79101301
Because there's proof of evolution, proof of big bang, and physical proof of countless miracles including transubstantiation affecting accidental properties and things like uncorrupted bodies.
>>79101193
>He is in everything but this is also his creation
Nope. The universe is not created for the same reason God isn't; they are one in the same.
>fuck off with your retarded deism copout
I am not a deist.
>>79101119
>eastern orthodox followers
If you don't practice or go to church or believe, but identify purely for ethnic reasons, you're not really a follower, are you?
>>79101374
There are more self-professing Baptists in America that do not participate in church than there are for eastern orthodox
See >>79100068
Show me a statistical analysis in argument for a dismissal of this data
>>79101403
Terrible movie. Kevin Sorbo is a Christcuck to the max
>>79101403
This movie is like if there were a Christian 4chan, and a board called /sht/ (for shitposting), and they made a movie based on it.
>>79099862
>Oh, so Jesus is never coming back then?
Strawman.
>When u just want a thread for discussion of Christendom but shills hit hard
>>79101703
>There are more self-professing Baptists in America that do not participate in church than there are for eastern orthodox
So? Even so they identify because they have some sort of believe (even if it is poorly practiced), not purely for ethnic reasons. There is no such thing as a "cultural baptist".
>>79101862
Then which verses are actually referring to Christ's return that do not also indicate it is imminent?
>>79101660
My point was, even assuming the charts have a high margin of error due to respondents answering with ethnic association rather than real practicers, the consistent followers still hold these heretical views
>>79099544
>One Church founded by Christ
>One Faith founded by Christ
>The Orthodox Church, the Orthodox faith
Ok, thanks for the information, Russian Ministry of Psychological Warfare.
>>79101703
>57%
>at least once a week
Those are the ones to look for. If you don't attend at least once a week you're pretty much a nominal follower.
>>79101946
There absolutely is, why would Russians and Greeks have a monopoly on this phenomenon?
Baptist faith is centuries old and very much tied to heritage
>>79101906
Seriously. Well, to help at least steer all of this Orthodox-Catholic-Protestant-Fedora shitposting, I decided I'm gonna try to read and study as many chapters in the NT this summer, along with trying to get Christ back into my life.
Anyone else doing something similar?
>>79101403
>On a more serious, non-shitposting note
But these threads are all shitposting.
>>79101556
It wasn't ad hominem. The argument was that he's adding an unnecessary step with no proof for it.
>>79101597
>Because there's proof of evolution, proof of big bang
Yes, but that has nothing to do with what you were talking about.
>physical proof of countless miracles
No, there isn't.
So looks like I'm going to be dating a mormon chick. Anything I need to know?
>>79099544
This Proves Eveloution BRUHG
> lol good on ya brother
>>79102337
She's in a cult and doesn't hold the scripture as final authority, but is likely conservative which is a big plus
>>79102170
>Baptist faith is centuries old
But these traditions are not preserved in your worship, you have zero tradition or richness in your worship. You bring in the newest styles of music and you don't any distinctive aesthetics. There are not baptist masterpieces of literature, music or art.
>>79102184
That's cool, I usually study the early church and it's schism. I go to church every Sunday but I really need to ready more and pray more.
>>79101906
If you want such a thread, make it on /x/ or even /his/ now. Here it's just off-topic crap.
>>79101971
Oh, it's imminent, it could happen any time. It's just god's time works different yhan ours.
>>79102457
>She's in a cult
So are you. You don't realize it for the same reasons she doesn't. Nobody in a cult ever realizes that's what they're in or they would leave.
>>79099544
I am not a Christian but I think people lose site of what the ideas of Christianity has done to shape wester culture and politics. The ideas of free will and personal responsibility have lead to some of the most free, tolerant(if you care about that), wealthiest, and prosperous nations to ever grace this earth. While I do not think it is likely God exists respect must be given to this religion that has lead to the Renaissance and the Enlightenment. Anyone who thinks that the western world including the US was not shaped by Christianity positively needs to read history past high school. Well done Christfags take care out there, but no more crazy shit, ok. No more inquisitions, looking at you Spain, knock it off. Perhaps another Crusade is in order though I would sign up for that.
>>79102561
I meant imminent at the time of writing, as Christ himself repeatedly insisted.
>>79102233
>what are the hosts turned into slices of human heart
>what are the blood clots that liquefy on certain dates
I could go on
>>79099544
Posting a couple of orthodox hymns
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkqZbFQb0O0 (English) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mw8XE3j_c0U (Greek and English)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vBg9nS9m_8
>>79102559
I've only read a little bit of a textbook version of the split, but it was something I would eventually want to look into down the road, despite being Lutheran (MO Synod). Also, how early are we talking? Orthodox/Catholic early, or the Trinity Divide early? And what denomination are you?
>>79102561
>/x/ hahaha I said it again
/x/ is for dude weirdos who believe durpo spirits.
When a religion held back ottomans and preserved western civilization, having Vlad tempes impaling muzzies I think it's a /pol/ religion. You can have your own thread though. We won't go there promise.
>>79102337
If she's faithful she'll have a restrictive diet among other things. No alcohol, no tea, no coffee. I don't remember which other restrictions they have. For other restrictions on other topics, check "Doctrine and Covenants".
>>79102487
There is not a single hymn I sing on sunday that is less than 100 years old, but in any case, why would older have greater inherent value?
There is a great history of baptist architecture comparable to the history of eastern orthodox architecture in aspects of sacred light, path, plan, and sound. I just took history of sacred architecture at Texas A&M
This entire thread is bait. Especially when you consider that denying evolution is now more or less heresy considering the Vatican accept it.
>>79099703
Kept you guys in a better condition, mate. Placebo or not.
>>79102457
She's conservative in most senses I suppose.
She doesn't care about much of anything "bigger picture" though, so your graph hardly applies. Even less seeing as we're in Norway.
As for cult, well now. Being apatheist myself I have actually taken the trouble to look up her religion. And she seems to think that she's an ordinary protestant christian, but with missions and more focus on church. I'm starting to think I know more about actual mormonism than she doesn.
>>79103170
She's only mildly faithful. She's young. I knew about the diet-thing from my research, but she doesn't exactly keep to that.
>>79102735
Yeah, like I said, it is imminent and we need to be prepared but God works on different timeframes than we do.
>>79102903
I don't know what are they?
>>79100407
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>>79102684
You speak with the blind fanaticism of someone who is in a cult, so there's really no difference. You're probably a freemason or something like that. I'd pray for you but I'm too much of a lazy piece of shit to be bothered with it.
>>79102561
>Implying religion has nothing to do with culture and politics
>>79103212
The better it connects to the old, the better it should be connecting to the original bi-millennial teachings of Christ
>>79102707
Respek, as a Christian. We'll probably see another crusade with the current situation and our Islamic leaders here in America.
>>79099544
If you eat pork and think its justified based on Peters dream in Acts, you are following the doctrine of men.
Your faith is well founded but without adherence to the commandments, you will be killed on the day of Judgement.
I am here to clarify any Scriptures you may be misinterpreting.
Sincerely,
The Hebrew Israelite
>>79103498
It has so little to do with politics, it should be a policy to ban it.
:^)
>>79103391
>She's only mildly faithful. She's young. I knew about the diet-thing from my research, but she doesn't exactly keep to that.
You probably hit the jackpot then
>>79103431
Ken Ham is right. Compromising on scripture's authority here leaves no reason not to compromise the rest of it, the basis of liberal theology
>>79103615
:DDD tibs fegora
>>79103084
I'm orthodox and am currently looking at the first schism (think it's the first) with the docetists. Docetists believing Christ was only a spirit pretending to be a man rather than both man and god.
>>79103699
That's not true. You're misunderstanding it in order to hold onto notions you thought were implied.
God does not lie. However, Adam and Eve lived for hundreds of years after the fall, despite them supposedly dying the day they ate the fruit. The days are abstract; indicating periods of time, or phases of creation.
>>79103699
>implying the Bible is at all trustworthy
It was written by men, and over the years has been subject to an extended game of telephone radically altering entire passages and meanings, along with constant translation error. Taking anything in the Bible as literal is stupidity of the highest order and merely makes another victim in the eternal cycle of corruption.
>>79103322
https://youtu.be/kDKGvg6HeyY
But it's 2016!
>>79101619
*Tipping intensifies*
>>79103431
>Genesis creation is obviously not literally serious, duh
How is it any more ridiculous than the afterlife? I don't understand this "yeah, some of this bullshit is obviously fake but other parts is definitely true".
>>79103927
If one actually bothers to look into it, "day" is a total fuckup of translation, as the original hebrew word (fucking hebrew and its confusing nature) both meant "day" as we know it and "really long-ass time".
>>79103927
Why are any other miracles trustworthy?
What hermeneutic do you use to understand scripture?
>>79104056
nice try, the word is "yowm" and it means "sun rises, sun sets"
https://www.blueletterbible.org/lang/lexicon/lexicon.cfm?Strongs=H3117&t=KJV
>>79103966
>How is it any more ridiculous than the afterlife?
God created through His word. Essentially the closest representation we have is coding. The afterlife is having our programs or files not deleted when the corrupted system has run its course.
The Bible is written in many genres. Genesis is written in poetic language, as opposed to Evangelions, or Acts.
>>79103835
Okay, so it was that one I tried alluding to with the second example, abet poorly. Yeah, I think that was the first schism, in which Christianity finally reached all over, and it tried to begin to coalesce into a unified belief, with the divinity of Christ being the crux of the issue at the time.
How is your research into it so far, or have you not started?
> Take Jerusalem because "muh holy sites"
> They don't take Morocco and start working their way eastwards, taking Tunis, Libya and Egypt then Syria
> Not stabbing the heart of the Muslim beast
> Sacking Constantinople in the 4th, weakening it to a horrible level.
Dumb Crusaders.
>>79104210
>Why are any other miracles trustworthy?
Talmud, the book of our enemies, acknowledges that Jesus did commit miracles. However, they associate it with "Egyptian magic". Essentially we have witnesses from both camps.
However, regarding creation, we even have God asking for man where he was during creation, for man to teach God of how He should have done it... (Job)
>>79103543
I would wear the Cross o be a part of that. Pls happen.
>>79099703
Having no believes is what makes your state a cuck state. Hej
>>79103415
>I don't know what are they?
Look up eucharistic miracles, there's a ton of them. One famous one is Lanciano. A priest was doubting on faith, and after consecrating the eucharist, the bread changed into living flesh and the wine into five pellets of blood. They weigh 15.85 grams, any combination of them. If you weigh the 5 at once, the scale will read 15.85, if you put 4 in one scale and 1 in another one, each will read 15.85 too. The flesh and the blood haven't decomposed and they've been around for over 12 centuries.
>>79104578
So the scripture isn't authoritative, we believe the miracles are as written because a second source confirms?
>>79103434
>"I know you are but what am I"
Well meme'd my friend
>>79103431
Ken Ham's argument is flawed in that you can't take the bible literally. Even Jesus explains in the NT that the Kingdom of Heaven cannot be explained or understood through earthly means. That is why he spoke to anyone who listened through parables.
How does a Christian avoid ressentiment?
>>79104698
>Look up eucharistic miracles, there's a ton of them
I'm not going to look them up. You say miracles are real, you provide source backing that up.
>They weigh 15.85 grams, any combination of them
That's not how weighing things works.
>>79104881
>So the scripture isn't authoritative
Why did God give us reason? Why did He let Thomas doubt? I've only doubted human interpretation as of yet, but you assume your position to be that of the Scriptures. That is dangerous zone, my friend. If others believe you, and you are wrong, you discredit the scriptures.
>>79103966
>>79104330
While I do believe there are variation in all animals, man included I don't believe that man came from a fish that adapted into a mudskipper thing ect. I do believe man can adapted to a certain limitation with selective breeding like a animals but to become something other than man is quiet a different matter.
>>79104360
Just learning how it affected the empire and how docetists thrived in africa. Along with the rise of arianism among the gauls. Heard Constantine was baptised by an Arian when Arians were rising in Rome. Also how St . Nicholas punched arias at on of the debates.
>>79104972
You have been doing nothing but posting bait and deformations of actual doctrine, while pretending to not be an atheist when you're obviously one.
Atheist is a faith in itself, the faith in non-existence of God, yet you pretend it's rational. Agnosticism is the only position that requires no faith of any kind.
>>79105065
pure will-power?
>>79099544
Christfags are cancer, Christfag culture is what makes Atheists such Marxist faggots. GET THE FUCK OUT CHRISTKEKS AND LOVE YOU ENEMIES. this is a kekhold board.
>>79105156
If you hold that scripture isn't authoritative, that is the source of our conflict
2 Tim 3:16
>>79105431
>If you hold that scripture isn't authoritative, that is the source of our conflict
But I don't. You assume that you are scripture, and that your interpretation is that of God.
Any convincing works of orthodox apologetics in english? Your favourite?
Basically a justification of their beliefs, especially their legitimacy which assumes one already has an understanding of Christianity.
>>79105117
>That's not how weighing things works.
that's why it's miraculous m80
about muh sources, http://lmgtfy.com/?q=lanciano+miracle
it's not like it's some obscure stuff
>>79105554
What?
Do you or do you not?
I'm saying the most consistent method of interpretation, and indeed God's intent, is a direct, historical-grammatical method
The biggest problem with being a christian today is society does not want to be helped. You can take a horse to water but you cant make it drink. Society today knows it is crooked, but being edgy and a 'bad' person has never been cooler.
I'm finding that I have to be increasingly private about my religious life, otherwise people my age will mock and deride me. It's hard enough to maintain my own faith at the moment, let alone bring others to faith. /sad rant.
>>79105418
>loving your enemies doesn't mean converting them to your cause
>when you can't do that it doesn't mean avoid them so as to not be corrupted by their sin, and just praying for them
You're probably thinking about nu-Christianity
>>79105836
>God's intent is direct
Proverbs 25:2, Matthew 25:14-30
>>79105418
When did you realize Christianity was created to separate us from the true gods, /pol/? I was about 10.
>>79106054
Forgot image. Genesis is layered.
>>79106107
>true gods
Elaborate
I'm not terribly religious but I would like to immerse myself in the most thoughtful Christian literature you can think of. I've got copies of Fear and Trembling as well as God and Other Minds coming in the mail. I'm looking forward to reading them but I'd be interested in a body of work put forth by an organized group (i.e. finding a group that I might eventually wish to be a part of should I find the positions compelling).
Where would you recommend I search? The Jesuits have produced many scholars but I hear a lot about them being modernists and I'm not sure I like that. BioLogos? I am a scientist so maybe. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!
>>79106255
Sin?
>>79100901
>A pig-fucking merchant and an american turboheretic making fake scriptures where they make their perversions law
>Same as the literal son of God, born through Miracle
>>79105896
Yeah, pray for Paki niggers that raped your sister, you fucking cuckhold, that will sure help.
>>79106084
Hitler was a Muslim and Himmler was a pagan.
>>79105594
What do you mean. Orthodoxy was around the time before Christianity became a solid thing. Watch vids and stuff, maybe go to a orthodox church 3 times. If evangelical it's quiet the change, if catholic it's very similar.
>>79105875
My friends know, most are atheist and sometime I can't Hangout on Sundays but the most I've heard is why do you believe. I just say this is what I believe is true and if you truly believe there is nothing after what have I to fear.
>>79106508
>Hitler was a Muslim
>>79106508
Hitler wished his men where born Muslim as it was a religion of fortresses(war). Himmler beloved in relics and such so yes.
>>79106461
>Pray that they stop being shitcunts
>This is somehow a bad thing
Sure how about we just rape them in return instead
So over the next month I'll be visiting my mum in Ohio. We are going on a road trip and Ken Ham's ark encounter happens to be on the way. It looks like I'll be stopping in to see it on the first week of opening. You jelly?
GOD BLESS EVERYONE AT /POL/!
>>79099544
get a life you canon breaking piece of shit, you're not orthodox - you're just poser, spending all your days on a porn / anime / degenerate website.
>>79106628
kek. not really, but he liked Islam and preferred it to Christianity, but he hated Arabs themselves, he also liked Shintoism as much.
>>79106255
Gods that have the best interest of white people and not of jews and muzzies
>>79106812
How many Pakis have stopped being shitcunts since you prayed for them?
>>79105809
what the fuck
>>79106897
"Nu judecati sa nu fiti judecati"
>>79106812
You should not rape them, you degenerate homosexual, you should be shoving their head on spears.
>>79106897
Then why are you here? By that logic your just as degenerate as these "posers"
>>79106974
Who the fuck knows? Faith does not rely on peaking under the covers
>>79106816
>jelly of something that doesn't even look like the real Ark.
>>79106084
>poni gas
>poni
wat
>>79107087
>2 wrongs
........
>1 right
All I have to do is to get people to peacefully deport them (whenever possible)
>>79099544
>tfw you will never live in the templar age
>>79107667
>tfw you will never live the comfy monastery life
>>79107667
>you will never be a High Templar
why even live
is this the thread where 15 year olds roleplay as christian crusaders on an anime forum?
>>79107830
Can you roleplay as not living in a country that's being invaded by horny arab men
>>79107830
>[muffled ficki ficki in the distance]
>>79107438
>wrongs
Who said it's wrong? Everyone except for 21 century nu-males like you would do the same thing, kill the invaders and pedophiles. Christianity was way better when people didn't know how to read and didn't read the cuckbible.
>>79107438
Yes, do that and don't mind your sister killing herself because she has been raped by them
after all
>2 wrongs
.........
>1 right
>>79108489
>implying it's the Bible's fault
dude, just war is a thing
>>79108489
>Sure, let's become exactly as violent and murderous as the people we're hating
You disgust me, you unenlightened barbarian scum
>>79107667
>>79107750
>being a heretic
Hospitaller for life.
>>79108683
Would me taking revenge [equal retribution] is going to be bringing her back?
>there are people in this thread who think the inquisition was bad overall
>there are people in this thread who take the black legend at face value
>>79108750
>How dare you not be nu-male cuck and complete opposite of your enemies
Modern Chritcucks belong on Plebbit.
>>79108931
it will save other girls from suffering the same fate
>>79109109
Equal retribution means me raping them. How is that now gonna perpetuate the raping?
All I have to do is imprison them
>>79109004
Not complete opposite, and not in all aspects
Just do to the same things you consider you've been wronged with to others
The best you can do is neutralise the threat (imprisonment/ deportation) until there is a sincere repentance
>>79109357
not*
>>79109357
My bad, I didn't mean rape them. Just remove them from the premises.
>>79109357
*don't do
>>79109469
I completely agree - Matthew 7:6
Nu-Christians (Western Christians) have stopped understanding these basic things
>>79101722
An interesting point to consider:
The bible says the age of man is 6000 years. The bible also says that before man, Angels held dominion over the Earth. They were created to beautify it, but they destroyed it, because Lucifer turned 1/3 of the Angels against God and started a war. The bible does not say how long this was, it could very well have been billions of years.
Just food for thought, that creationism does not necessarily suggest the world is 6000 years old, but rather, that man is. This distinction helps to reconcile the scientific age of our Earth against the Bible's story of creation.
They need not be mutually exclusive.
>>79109357
>Just do to the same things you consider you've been wronged with to others
I'm no telling you to go to Pakistan and rape kids and terrorize population there.
are you even Anglo? you are probably some shitski Christian.
>>79109799
I meant "don't* do"
We were taking about whether I should take seek retribution (lex talionis) for a paki raping my sister, so..
>>79110045
>whether I should seek* retribution
My grammar is decreasing the later it gets
>>79100203
Ignore American ignorance.
>>79109689
Biblical years aren't chronological years, that's all you need to reconcile the views. Methuselah didn't live 900 chronological years. A lot of stuff in the Bible just means "a lot of time", and number symbolism is a common theme.
>>79109631
I like how Christ himself said this. I can be applied to so many situation, one of my favorite is to apply to many African countries where all they do is squander the resources that we KEEP DUCKING GIVING THEM. Just leave me alone.
>>79110747
It's my favourite Gospel verse
It's basically God saying: "Shit's gonna get real y'all (Matthew 10:34) so you better be fucking careful (Matthew 7:6)"
>>79109002
Seriously. Who is it that keeps pushing the line that the inquisition was there to just burn everything to the ground and torture for the fuck of it? They were created to make sure that if someone who charged with heresy, they were there to see if the charges stuck, and if it did, a chance to turn awya from it, or if it was some sneaky Jew or Muzzie trying to subvert Christianity.
And I say this as a Lutheran. The Inquisition was necessary.
>>79099544
God bless the Orthodox Christians of /pol/, a shining pillar in a sea of darkness
>>79111431
>John 1:5
And a light shines in the darkness, and the darkness comprehend it not.
Antioch orthodox here
>>79110747
>>79111118
And they shouldn't receive an ioda of a penny, until they're ready to repent and mend their ways.
Though, speaking this out to the church I find myself into would probably not like it, as they have a church and school they built in Liberia, that they're also funding, along with someone going on a mission trip to China.
Guess it's hard to reconcile that sometimes, you just have to let them go, and only accept them once they desire to repent and actually mend their ways.
>>79102337
That it's not worth it and you should reevaluate your life for even considering this woman.
She's a heretic, she's in a cult, she should be avoided.
>>79112163
Nice meme, bruh
>>79112086
It's the only way. There are absolutely NO double-measures with God (Matthew 7:21-23)
Remember that clearly and always
>>79112677
As cold hearted and cruel as it seems to a lot of people, particularly virtue signalers, I find myself very hard pressed to ever give the homeless any money at all, as it always ends up going to drugs, smokes, or alcohol.
Buying them food, however, is a different story, and I've only ran into one such case in which the person just wanted something to eat.
>>79102487
So? You fags (and the Catholics too) have allowed your tradition to supersede scripture and corrupt your theology.
>>79112288
>She's a heretic, she's in a cult, she should be converted.
FTFY
>>79113547
>allowed your tradition to supersede scripture
t. protestant
>>79113495
What you're doing is called actually being a rational person
God never meant for a faggy all-permissive love in the first place (Proverbs 13:24) but a rational and actually useful love (Hebrews 12:11)
Please never let your good intentions pave your road to Hell. Actually put them in practice thoughtfully
May God keep you safe
>>79106436
this
>>79102903
this
http://www.theotokos.org.uk/pages/appdisce/nineapps.html
http://www.therealpresence.org/eucharst/mir/a3.html
>>79113823
This, and there is the added bonus she won't be honor killed for leaving the Mormon church. However, I would expect that her family and peers would ostracize her, however. Also, Deus Vult
>>79114093
>>79113495
>>79114522
>http://www.theotokos.org.uk/pages/appdisce/nineapps.html
Tell me about Mary, why does she wear the veil?
>>79114757
Nice posts. Saved
>>79106363
Ok.
>>79114757
Actually, this is why I had a bit of little crisis, due to the 'Nice Doctrine' that had caused the Episcopal church to become the sickening hereticts, blasphemers, and even outright pagans at this point. Didn't stop believing in Christ, but I was in a limbo.
>>79115812
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NxrIjE-WNVA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfRowq10PGc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3J7O4eS_ME
>>79116121
Don't take this the wrong way, but I find myself to be more in line with the Lutherans, particularly MO/WI synod. If it makes you feel better, however, the pastor did allude to a lot of what you have been linking, funnily enough, and they don't do that faggy modern shit with "soft rock", only hyms, so there is still common ground.
But I am glad there are still those who still see such degradation and find it completely and utter disguisting, even in the Catholic church.
>>79117199
...especially in the Catholic church*
