>>79077003
You make justin trudeau look like a womanizer
>>79077003
> Internet created by U.S. government
lol
>>79077003
Another pack of lies, brought to you by occupy idiots.
>>79077003
Public good =\= govt control of private services
> the throw away your ss card meme
I'd gladly not pay into SS each paycheck If the government wasn't going to come and take me to jail
do they actually think that the government is giving them a good deal on any of those things?
>The US internet created the internet
>>79077334
> can't refute
> calls its lies
My sides are in orbit
>>79077003
>public roads
Private contractors do that
>sewer systems
Public works commission and the sanitary movement did that
>public schools
They're all shit
>postal service
What is UPS for 100?
>Internet
Private companies
>never call fire & police
Someone else will do it anyway.
>>79077003
>Social security and Medicare
Gladly
>Roads and highways
No privately owned company could ever make those!
>Public schools
But how will we survive without common core?
>Police and fire department
Conservatives support government programs that exist to protect the people. Neither of these is a socialist institution.
>Postal service
I use UPS and FedEx
>Sewer system
Right, basic infrastructure is socialism now.
What does any of this have to do with you stealing my money and calling it a government program?
>>79077823
I actually went to a good public school
thank you based MA
>>79077003
>Socialism = the government providing services
Well ok then.
infrastructure, like a national military and a judicial system, is for any first-world government to maintain
this is not the same as:
"a political and economic theory of social organization which advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole"
you fucking idiot
>>79077633
It's so obviously false, it's not worth refuting.
You will understand this when you move out of mom's basement, and actually pay for things like sewer service. It's simply not a social program, idiot.
The US government did not create the internet.
We spend billions in tax dollars bailing out the defunct postal system, every year.
They just resealed half my town, and hired an out of state company to do it. It's not a function of government, it's the work of contractors.
It's just another streaming pile of lies from occupy idiots. You'll understand this one day, Timmy.
>>79077003
I definitely would if I didn't have to pay fucking taxes for them.
nice facebook meme
>>79078186
lol ups is union and fed ex is organizing with the teamsters.
>>79077003
Sure thing. Stop taking money out of my checks for social security and tax.
>>79077003
They'll might as well just claim every government program is "socialist", and that Al Gore "invented the internet". Also, I would support probably about half of these being revoked, in favor of lower taxes; they are products / services that are being forced upon me and I don't want them.
>>79077003
>Occupy Democrats
Give me a fucking break.
>>79077633
Yeah, because you communist faggots are known for telling the truth, right?
/pol/ BTFO
>>79078186
Basic infrastructure is paid for by tax money.
Or do Americans work for free?
>>79077003
Social Security sucks, public schools suck, police and fire department is ok local results may vary, Postal service is shit compared to the private sector, internet is pure cancer because it allows all sorts of filth lies and degeneracy to be spread en masse Kind of like op's pic.
>>79077462
so if things like medicare are not socialized programs, what category do they fall under? Before we had medicare and social security, if you could not afford health care or whatever, you either died or friends or family or some charity helped you out. Society at large did nothing. so if these are not "social" programs, as in socialism, what are they?
I understand your point that in america society does not own general motors. but I think of public schools as a form of socialism, and I can assure you that medicare and social security were denounced as pure socialism when they were first discussed.
>>79077003
I actually agree. The reason why socialism is equated with the left often, is because Communism was supported by leftists, because communism is an off-shoot of a NON-SOCIAL philosophy.
It's like democracy; democracy is about giving individuals the vote, so it's a form of individualism, not true collectivist. Social democracies and communist republics, by definition, are legalistic forms of government based off the liberal principles set by the American bill of rights, the declarations of the rights of man, etc.
When you listen to a liberal, they'll say "Society needs this" or "Society is too racist" or something. There's nothing wrong with society. The social hierarchy of the Christian white man has nothing wrong with it. When you incporporate legalistic attitudes and let in millions of immigrants, creating social division and pretend they're part of the society, then you don't really have a society. And it's like communism; it's a false view of society based on what the law says society is.
>>79077463
>do they actually think that the government is giving them a good deal on any of those things?
people who know some history do, yes. before public schools were introduced so that factory workers could read instructions, only the wealthy tended to be educated.
before social security, if you could not provide for yourself, you had to beg for assistance.
before medicare, if you were old and could not afford medical treatment, you simply died.
>>79077003
>Muh roads
Do socialist have any better arguments?
>>79077003
>Give up social security
Please fucking do, I save plenty for retirement and I'm probably not gonna benefit from social security anyway. Fuck the boomers too retarded to save for their retirements.
>Medicare
Buy your own health insurance
>Public roads, highways, schools, police, etc.
Nobody calls those socialist
>public infrastructure is innately socialistic
kek
Even welfare was first founded by the Prussians who where absolute monarchists.
>>79079920
History shows none of those assertions to be true.
>>79077003
>le everything provided by a government is socialist and cant be provided by the people meme.
This bait is atleast 2 years old why a people still falling for it?
>the workers must seize the means of production
>roads and the fire department
