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The foreign ministers of France and Germany are due to reveal a blueprint to effectively do away with individual member states in what is being described as an “ultimatum”.
Under the radical proposals EU countries will lose the right to have their own army, criminal law, taxation system or central bank, with all those powers being transferred to Brussels.
Controversially member states would also lose what few controls they have left over their own borders, including the procedure for admitting and relocating refugees.
The plot has sparked fury and panic in Poland - a traditional ally of Britain in the fight against federalism - after being leaked to Polish news channel TVP Info.
http://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/683739/EU-referendum-German-French-European-superstate-Brexit
Phew, dodged a bullet there mates.
Do you have a better source? Express is utter rubbish
>>78965584
Seems the eu is cucking itself more and more every day, the day of the rope is soon anon's. All the slime and niggerdom will dissapear into thin air when the true sons of europe wake up.
>>78965584
Mmm~ feels so good to be free.
>>78965584
It's not going to happen. Except for Belgium maybe, no other member state will back this. It is also known the EU thugs in Brussels desire a federation. I don't why people take so seriously.
>>78966874
Because they've been moving towards that goal for the last thirty years with the support of politicians across Europe.
Remember the EU Constitution that got turned into the Lisbon Treaty?
>>78966220
Wtf I love Britain now!
>>78965584
how to prevent this from happening and what if your country's currency is Euros?
>>78965584
Yeah, I'm sure that would go over well right now and totally won't lead to a chain reaction of countries telling them to go fuck themselves.
I hope these delusional morons actually try to push it.
>>78967017
>Remember the EU Constitution that got turned into the Lisbon Treaty?
I remember it very well, and I agree with you. I'm just saying that currently, thank god, the populations of the member states will not tolerate watching their nations being dissolved and turn into a federation.
>>78965584
> Europe and our voters do not want to give the Union over into the hands of technocrats.
>technocrats
>implying the morons sitting in Brussels are technocrats
>>78966874
Flanders wont support this.
Don't talk about shit you know nothing about.
>>78965584
This was the "conspiracy theory" plan all along:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N14U5ZE-N2w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSPTGTpzbiI
>>78967038
Get out!
>>78967548
Is there anything they can do about it? It took the UK many years to get to the point of referendum; can countries like the Netherlands pull out in time?
>>78967017
The thing is, they've never been further away from that looking like a possible thing to do than now.
>Germoney starts WW3
>claims they want diversity and tolerance
>after the war diversity is treated like the holocaust
>Christianity and traditional values flourish
I can dream right?
>>78968225
Only because we left. They're in panic mode at the moment.
>>78968263
I'd say that even before you had your referendum it would have been hard to push that plan through.
They probably gambled on you voting Remains o they could run a media campaign and try to turn that into "EU Euphoria!" before they go through with it.
Only that the morons in their ivory tower have no idea how the people feel and misinterpreted the situation pretty brutally. They didn't even have emergency plans for the case that you leave because they thought it would never happen.
>>78965584
So in the end Brexit folks made the right choice. This idea will end in bloodshed.
>>78968694
Does it really matter what voters say? European matters involving the EU are littered with ignored votes. The EU wants their European genocide, and will ignore voters to get it.
>>78968256
Everything can be avoided if we just kill the jews.
>>78968694
To be fair, we (the UK) didn't really think it would happen either, and we're now realising that as a country we don't actually know what we want. Not to be part of the EU, sure, but what specifically do we negotiate?
>The public broadcaster reports that the bombshell proposal will be presented to a meeting of the Visegrad group of countries - made up of Poland, the Czech Republic, Hungary and Slovakia - by German Foreign Minister Frank-Walter Steinmeier later today.
>later today
I call bullshit
All we can read about that mysterious proposal is a cheap Express article. We didn't hear anything similar anywhere else. There would have been more leaks.
So the hat trick dream is still alive?
3 - Nil in wars????
America's make sure you get Trump for them wings of liberty brand spanking new fighter jets.
We got the sea.
>>78969090
>Does it really matter what voters say?
Yes. Because contrary to their EU counterparts, the politicians of the individual countries still have to go through elections and have thus at least a tiny bit of accountability left.
And so far the EU is lacking its army to just overthrow European governments.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46bNlkUy0xs
> Oh Captain, my Captain!
>>78968120
Well, we still have time. Brussels is slowly moving towards a federation, but if they go through with it, there will be civil uprisings. Maybe a Nexit is required. Economic Free Zones are great, but fuck a federation.
>>78969213
Start with Russia and China. You could actually negotiate way better deals with them outside of the EU (at least China) since you don't need protectionism. You have no real manufacturing industry, importing cheap shit from China thus doesn't hurt your own economy.
>>78967915
I was honestly surprised that someone actually thought there is any conspiracy involved. Conspiracies tend to involve secrecy, and you know, actually hiding your intentions.
Looks like we got out just in time. Notice how they kept this til after Brexit to not scare us
>>78969213
Yes! We Won! Now Send Them Back!
>>78965584
4TH REICH WHEN?
Nah, there's no way they are THIS stupid
>>78968256
I just thought about this some more. If Germany actually started shit, it would be almost a perfect WW2 rematch.
>Trump is elected and America builds up military force while becoming more isolationist
>Germany (EU) controls much of central Europe
>France surrenders again
>UK and Russia battle EU from multiple fronts
>Trump and Putin team up and America comes in at the last minute and kill steals
>>78969194
>>78967038
There is no hope left, get comfy and watch the world burn, veli.
>>78965584
Brussels need to burn, and quick.
Now that the Brits are out and having actual nuclear weapons, maybe they could do us a solid and accidentally nuke Berlin and Brussels. Just say a cup of tea spilled over the motherboard in some nuclear armed sub or something.
>>78969343
> Visegrad group of countries - made up of Poland, the Czech Republic, Hungary and Slovakia - by German Foreign Minister Frank-Walter Steinmeier
I call bullshit too.
The ministers of all of those countries would be just as likely to beat Frank-Walter to death as they would be to just verbally object.
>>78969678
>Conspiracies tend to involve secrecy,
Yes, but the definition of a conspiracy isn't secrecy.
>>78965584
That's been the dream of a United Europe since after World War 1: To wipe away national identity and uniqueness, supposed causes of conflict. Or to establish control over the entire Continent without pesky things like Democracy.
It's pretty scary and I'm glad most Brits want out if it, but you better hold your politicians accountable and do it quickly before they try to renege or before the EU uses the time left to fuck you over more.
>>78968225
Yes but they seem to be pushing alsorts of things through now without giving a shit what people think.
>>78970043
Amen, brother.
>>78970319
The brexit vote won't change anything substantial. The UK is still getting its muslims.
>>78969343
its appeared in dailymail
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3662827/Has-Britain-avoided-European-superstate-France-Germany-draw-plans-morph-EU-countries-one-control-members-armies-economies.html#comments
>>78970610
There was a thread about this earlier on too. This news had been on a Polish pro-EU website
>>78970473
I have no doubt immigration will still happen, as it should to those qualified. But they won't have to deal with "open borders" in the EU where people can just go from Germany to wherever they want.
They can screen applicants and immigrants and pick who they want in their nation.
>>78969676
Fuck the Russians. India shoult be High up the list, South america is worth a look.
>>78970886
No, I'm saying immigration will not change at all.
>>78970881
Is there anything on wikileaks about it? I feel like someone would give it to them before the daily mail unless its just some MI6 or ex-stasi faggot with nothing to lose screwing around
>>78971443
it's not wikileaks worthy because it's been an open secret for ages.
SHUN
THE
HUN
>>78969392
>tfw threepeat
>>78968263
"only because we left
"good thing we got out"
"Haha get fucked eurofags"
You do realzie you're still in the EU, you massive bumbling britfags? You probably will be for at least two years, even. And there's no guaruntee you'll even get out even with a referendum. A referendum is just that, a referendum. Not a political decision backed by the government.
You just showed that Barely over half of the voters think they're better off without the EU.
>>78971613
Thank kek we are out. Looks like the EU is about to become one big country with the 'experts' in Brussels in charge of each nations army, economy and borders
>Britain opposes EUSSR
>EUSSR happens anyway, Britain stays as "trade partner"
>WW3 happens when EUSSR admits Ukraine and re-asserts claims on Crimea
>EUSSR gets nuked into oblivion
>Only states left worth talking about after dust settles are Britain and China
>Anglo-Sino alliance forms NWO
>ASA conquers the galaxy
>>78972090
>good thing we got out
ok dutchbro. You are right. Were not out yet but at least we've got a referendum result saying we want out (not that they wont ignore it). At least weve got some 'armour' though and it feels good.
You need to get yourself a NEXIT referendum quick bro
>>78968263
>>78972090
>tfw they speed up and make the superstate before the Uk leaves
:^)
>>78972574
As if they're just going to give up. Didn't you get the memo? Soros is - very upset - about the british exit. This will not stand, surely the goyim will not be allowed to act this way towards their masters.
>>78972455
>EUSSR
Perfect
>>78972455
If Britain and China are the only ones left, they'll just blanket your little island with nukes and take over the rest of the world.. you know that, right?
Go ahead, kill a billion Chinese. See if they care.
>>78972893
China has an export economy, they need consumers
We have a service economy, we need customers. China makes the shit, we handle the finances, everyone is happy except the radioactive Germans
>>78972455
>thinking millions of devout muslims will fight for the EU army
they would rather barricade their getto streets and kill each other
>>78972455
more like england and iceland will be the only survivors
>mfw England will still not be able to win eurocup
>>78973029
Why in the ever living fuck would the Chinese need help counting their own money?
The thing is the leavers are going to read this and go "I KNEW IT!!"
All media is jew lies until it tells you what you want to hear, right /pol/? You fuckers are so gullible.
>>78965584
THE ANTICHRIST WILL RULE THIS UNION
>Under the radical proposals EU countries will lose the right to have their own army, criminal law, taxation system or central bank, with all those powers being transferred to Brussels.
any of you morons actually believe this?
>>78972893
why would they nuke us if there was no need?
let's be honest, if it weren't for Mao, China would never have faltered from being the most ubermensch civilization to ever exist and to have ever existed.
i'm okay being part of the servile whitey protectorate under our squinty eyed ching-chong massas.
>>78972761
I know but the result is better than nothing. There is so much salt coming from the media and people about the result it feels like a colour revolution might be brewing!
Wonder which colour Georgie will chose for us?
>>78973174
Why count your own money when you can have an entire island of accountants to do it for you?
>>78973175
i actually knew they wanted to unveil plans for a european army following the brexit vote.
and everyone knew their long term goal was to remove all agency from the national governments of their members states.
but i never anticipated they'd go this far with this one proposal.
i never realised that in wanting to create a european army, they wanted member states to disband their own national armies.
>>78972574
>implying I want out of the EU
I don't give a fuck about a few thousand niggers extra niggers. We're 50% niggers already. But I kind of like financial security and peace. I sincerely doubt we're going to have peace if all of us fuck off from the EU. Also my savings will be worth nothing.
>>78965584
civil war is coming...
...can you feel it?
>>78973331
Rainbow?
It's knows. that example
>>78973362
Yeah, or some 10 fold of your own accountants who are more than willing, and already inside the loop.
Face it. The greatest empire to ever reach around the earth will soon have the importance of a Banana Republic on the world stage.
WATCH THIS THIS IS WHY:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4_tyEl84IQ
>>78973647
Yes. Ive felt it for quite a while. Fingers crossed i'm just paranoid!
>>78973647
it's not civil war while the member states are sovereign.
it's like a pre-civil war
>>78973454
>I don't care if I get raped, the cock's already half in
>>78973647
Bad shit is about to go down. Don't know if it will get to mass violence, but things are going to get very nasty.
Hope you all got /comfy/
Only thing that makes me lel is the Scottish bitching about the referendum.
>>78973991
We're laughing at Sturgeon too.
>>78965584
This is all about refugees.
If they can't make welfare conditions relatively equal across Europe they can't spread the invasion out thin enough. If they can't spread it out thin enough a couple of countries will collapse first, before the rest is sufficiently infested which will proceed to cleanse themselves.
They are getting desperate, the refugees are simply too vile to allow them to pile up in Germany and Sweden much longer. Even the most cucked nations of the union have their limits, they need to take the pressure or it will become a danger to white genocide.
>>78973647
the fire finally rises
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8ayMp6K8pwg
>>78973066
fucking savage
Is it war time soon?
>tfw wanted race war got eu war
>>78965584
>dailyexpress
Would this have happened but for Brexit? Probably not. And we all know nobody will do anything about this. Why would we? We never have. It aint going to happen
>>78974071
>implying they can convince slavs to tolerate niggers on welfare getting free housing and more money than we could ever earn
We would kill them all
>>78967180
They're doing it in response to Brexit. They're afraid most of all of their European federal dreams falling to pieces, so they will force an ultimatum to tighten control and end any chances of more members leaving once and for all.
This is make or break time for European nation states. Like the British people, you will have the entire global establishment against you.
>>78974363
Therefore Brexit is a 5D zionist chess move. EU was kind of fine. Now look at the secessionism and economic crises. Besides. The right wing put the refugees here
>>78965584
>mfw /pol defeated illuminati for lulz.
>>78974482
Nonetheless even though he is Brexiter, Corbyn is best for pm though
>>78973958
>implying people get raped here
Unlike in Germany, if someone gets raped here they are public justice'd to death.
There have been 0 rapefugee related incidents in the Netherlands so far.
>>78971009
We'll see which laws start to pass. It doesn't take much to get military and law enforcement excited. Bobbies probably do need work, though.
>>78967180
Kamerad, wo liegt dein Problem?
Der europäische Kontinent unter deutscher Federführung liegt endlich in Reichweite, wie kann dies dein Blut nicht in Wallung bringen?
Oder bist du kein Volksgenosse?
>>78965584
Please, I'm not good at newspeak. What does this actually entail? Can some /pol/iticians translate a few passages?
>>78967038
Source ?
I literally spent the last 6 months crying and whining and begging "the UK" to leave the EU. Like, I had no evidence and this wasn't about refugees, I was just feeling this irksome pain, and I was begging the whole country, in a way it could not hear me, to leave the EU.
>They leave the EU
>Three days alter, this
I'm so fucking happy they got out.
>>78966700
So good I have tea leaking out of every hole
>>78966657
http://static.presspublica.pl/red/rp/pdf/DokumentUE.pdf
>>78973818
They rise and fall, I just want to see what the Lao Yangs do to Africa
>>78972090
>Brussels has rejected plans to rejoin the EU
>Brussels urging Britain to hurry up with the vote because the market's in turmoil and they want to punish the UK
>Muh "not legally binding" meme.
Junker has kicked us out mate. We ain't staying.
>>78969213
Don't listen to the media narrative. You've likely heard three or four people say stupid or regretful reasons for leaving and saw a petition that's been botted by 4chan for days.
>>78974482
> self-fagging
No, Brexit is like when your dad walks out and your mom is crazy
>>78965584
Wouldn't a more unified Europe be the best way to compete against the USA and China?
>>78975322
no
communism doesn't work
>>78974853
Kiznaivers, I think.
>>78975122
We'll see.
It is not legally binding and it will take a lot of time to actually go in effect.
Just wondering how UK is going to survive once everyone jumps ship. Will you be happy going bankrupt? "H-hey at least we died free men, r-right?"
Have electronics prices skyrocketed for you yet?
Must suck with the new AMD RX480 and teh GTX 1070/1080 coming out.
>>78974920
>I'm so fucking happy they got out
Article 50 hasn't been evoked yet though and we've still no actual leader after PM resigned...yikes
It would be difficult to overturn our Brexit mandate though.
This beats the socks off Game of Thrones!
>>78975322
Compete in what? Cheap labor? China has lower standards of living than the poorest European countries
>>78972090
The cash is all taking a shit now, capt. You have think the country will tolerate getting financially shit on and not getting out of the organization that just shit on it for trying to get out of the same organization?
Fug off, cunt.
>>78975322
Yes, but cooperating with foreigners winds up nationalists so they don't care.
They're prefer to be in weak, balkanised and isolated backwaters without foreigners than work to develop a new superpower and accept other Europeans living and working near to them.
>>78975409
Ty canal bro
>>78975444
freedom ain't free.
>>78966657
Dis nigga srs?
>>78975322
Not only to compete, but to avoid beeing torn apart by murrica and russia.
>be in a vulnerable state with one nation leaving the union
>take the steps most likely to result in more states leaving
bold move
let's see how it pans out
>>78975444
European markets are suffering a lot more than us, because Europe depends on the British market. We're now your biggest external trading partner. The longer we delay, the worse it gets for Europe. Italy is already on the verge of meltdown.
All we need to ask for is the banking passport. We'll get it.
>>78973392
I knew this to, the EU were holding back their reforms until the Brexit decision. The new reforms will start showing up soon.
>>78975444
Everything is fine here bro.
You better spend them savings quick Dutchbro before everything goes to shit
With UK's exit there is no more hope left for the EU.
I fear this will lead to another war, possibly WW3.
And I say fear because I don't want to die in a fucking pointless war as a lowly pawn for the Belgian banker elites.
Anyone who thinks UK will take its rightful place along Norway and Switzerland is a delusional faggot. It's like the gf who dumps you and wants to be friends. There will be no peace. Brussels will try to destroy the UK and incite a new war in the process. Mark my words.
>Tfw Germany is taking over Europe through democracy.
>Tfw the cucked reich is imminent.
>>78975641
You can cooperate without merging states together into a Soviet style dictatorship. Imagine these completely unaccountable bureaucrats in control of a military and the criminal law. I can't believe you idiots still think this is a good idea.
>>78975929
better have a war that kill most of humanity now than to let us slowly die in degeneracy
>>78974826
United States of Europe.
>>78975322
In a long run, yes. A unified state called Europe might even surpass them both. But you'd have to get rid of nation-states and their peoples.
>>78973647
I hope liberals try to start one when they realise their retarded petitions are not going to work
>>78975929
It hinges upon the US election
If cunts like Hillary will keep getting elected, they will side with Brussels over the UK
>>78975987
Why soviet? Europe had a dozen of great dictatorships and none of them was 'sovijet' or communist
>>78975929
>Brussels will try to destroy the UK and incite a new war in the process
If Brussels would actually even consider that, we made the right choice. Everyone need to get the fuck outta dodge asap
>>78975929
When you think about it, this is exactly how ww2 started. Germans take over mainland europe, UK retreats. Now we we're waiting on D day.
>>78975444
>graphics cards
I'll take shit that doesnt matter for 1,000 jim.
>>78965584
It's about goddamn time
>>78976390
Soviets wiped out culture and brainwashed people into thinking they were free. Not the same economic policy, rather than communism the EU mandates crony-capitalism.
>>78975641
>He thinks his country will have any merit once it's 90% muslim
>>78976390
Because the USSR was socialist and internationalist. It also loved moving nations around and resettle Muslims and Asiatics on European soil. Remind you of something yet?
>>78976245
>In a long run, yes. A unified state called Europe might even surpass them both. But you'd have to get rid of nation-states and their peoples.
The process is ongoing...
>>78975641
>muh supeepower
why doea it matters to be part of a superpower if it means it's the end of your people?
>>78965584
>tfw there have been people planning this literally since the day WW2 ended.
Pretend to be remorseful. Use the chaos after the war to unite many countries. Slowly but surely build back economy. Establish yourself as leader for the countries you united. Then destroy everything to pay them back for what they did.
>>78965584
It appears that Brexit was intentional. The UK has always stood in the way of closer integration. They are the major force in opposition to a super state. So Brexit happens, they won't stop it, even though they could, and now a super state plan is announced. Seems to me that Brexit was designed to jettison the biggest obstacle to the super state. This wasn't really the people's will. This was a concerted effort to mislead the public during the campaign with false promises to essentially kick out the UK. This would also make sense as to why the EU has been up fornt about the UK starting the process immediately. They don't want any takesy backsies. They want the UK out so that Germany and France can strong arm the weaker members into this integrated super state. /conspiracy
>>78969462
I find it funny that Poland has more Tanks than Germany now.
If Poland wanted they could reverse Blitzkrieg.
>>78975929
Who is going to do exactly what?
>>78976632
We'll see, after you get your glorious coloured revolution, how difficult and fast that process is going to be.
>>78976572
ain't it the same in the US?
>>78976631
you got a point there
>the odds of this happening are stupidly low
>cant see anyone actually accepting this other than the EU's leeches
>probably was released as a "test" and seeing the reaction will cause them to scrap it for now
I hope this is plastered all over the news and people gain even more support for Leave though. I doubt it, but I hope.
>>78965584
This isn't actually going to happen right?
Holy fuck. Alex Jones was right again. They will literally stop at nothing to attain total control..
>>78977485
no its not, just FUD from britfags not accepting the brexit was a bad idea
>>78965584
a) Brussels wanting a federal Europe is the biggest non-secret on the planet
b) They aren't stupid enough to try change course from gradual federalization to brute force while so many other countries risk having their own referendums.
You're as bad as the doomsayers who said the world would end if the brexit happened.
>>78974589
>illuminati
>lulz
Yeah go kill yourself
How many attempts has it been for Germany to destroy Europe now, I lost count.
>>78965584
They might as well run all those shitholes that are pretty much a drain on resources. It'll probably be better that way.
>>78965584
Abandon ship!
>>78977683
Well, worst case scenario a third world war might help turn this generation's males into actual men.
>>78976151
>United States of Europe.
more like EUdSSR.
>>78976245
Why would you?
Everyone is replying that this is communism which is confusing me
The european union looks like it is just headed down the same path of federalization that the colonies of the USA did?
Some explain the difference to me please.
>>78976405
Truth. They were always evil. The elite are rabid now. Rabid.
>>78968694
Your theory seems reasonable.
They will likely bury this for a little bit but it will not go away
>>78977659
Poland released this though
>>78969939
YOU CAN'T STOP IT
>>78977485
What right do they have? Their claims are only backed up by a stack of papers.
We won't listen to them and they can do jack shit about it. Brussels grew too arrogant.
>>78977835
Im really trying to act like a moron in this thread, but you öschis beat me to it.
>>78967038
Rejoin Russia.
>>78977934
I decide what you can eat for the rest of your life.
Okay?
Oh, you don't get a say in that either.
Does that sound like the thirteen colonies to you?
>>78978109
more and more powers moving to the EU and turning into a kind of united states of europe was never a secret.
the interpretation in this thread is completely over the top and wrong.
no one is forcing a country to relinquish powers against their will.
>>78978939
>Move on, nothing to see here.
>>78978939
Piss off you cunt, let me believe this
>>78965584
This week, I sat down and really thought about recent events. I came to realize, that, ultimately, it's better not to leave the power/"fates" of people in the hands of those who are... awful at what they do. A "New World Order" wouldn't be new or change much, but it would be a step in that direction. A step that could still be led by not-so-great people who have not-so-great capacitance or tendencies.
But this could also spark a scenario where everyone simply sits on the hands of the "Big Bad Superstate" and re-define their own sense of sovereignty and control- probably amounting to better forms of army, legal statutes, economy... probably society. Maybe.
But it's all a shitty deal, whatever it is. It's inevitable, and it's being egged on by all kinds of parties both knowingly or otherwise. Brexit this, General election that, Missile test this, ultimatum that. At least you won't have the common man (who by no means is encouraged to not become a drone) scream louder than the vocal majority of those who actually have a decent grasp on the basic necessities (and their agency).
>>78978939
>no one is forcing a country to relinquish powers against their will.
nope, they just threaten those countries who choose not to relinquish powers with punitive measures.
>>78978939
We don't know what the will is because the UK is the only government to ask their nation so far
>>78977934
That's the thing. We are not the colonies but mostly independent states with some history, usualy bloody one whn it comes to unification. This idea of federalization dosn't come from the electorate but from "experts, technicians of power, and those who just know better". Communism isn't the best term, but we don't have any better. Although it's true that a lot of EU shills are former socialists and maoists (but that is partly derived from the fact that they are boomers - and whoever wanted to incerase his "mating potencial" had to be a leftist), they are not the good old commies.
>>78978939
That's exactly what it is, an imperially imposed policy with no discussion! If that's not the case, then why are the fringe countries rejecting migrants an issue?
>>78979139
the ppl voted for the cunts representing us at the EU
if they do not do what we want its entirely our fault
>>78965584
This is bullshit. OP is a lying liar.
>>78973831
This is great.
Only gripe is the conclusion that the eurozone must become USE. They mentioned the other option, which is to do away with the euro.
Fairly certain this board would be in favor of the latter. The former would be pushed by people who think all humans are the same, when they are very clearly not.
>>78979139
and we were asked with, i can guarantee, a majority of our electorate being unaware of the immediate plans the european commission had.
had this been common knowledge prior to our referendum, do you really think it would be such a close call?
we would have overwhelmingly voted to leave.
as would any other state of sensible people within the EU. so do you think they're going to allow others to hold referendums now?
>>78979377
Have you read the documents?
>>78979337
i admit that was a bad move from the EU, however they did not have to suffer any punishment until now and they will still have the chance to contest any punishment in the european courts.
i was referring to this:
>Under the radical proposals EU countries will lose the right to have their own army, criminal law, taxation system or central bank, with all those powers being transferred to Brussels.
>>78979370
We voted for representatives in European PARLIAMENT, whereas the real power lies a few layers higher up the hierarchy and out of reach of any means for the european public to hold them accountable, in the European COMMISSION.
our votes were largely symbolic, but the fact that britain had a history of electing eurosceptic MEPs gave us a shred of hope that we could actually push to leave.
>>78978939
Don't forget it's pol/. And happenings are needed. France and Germany just went full empire with only two options for others - stay in and do as we say or become our enemy.
>>78979723
>abusive relationships are okay as long as the victim is allowed the opportunity to shout "NO PLEASE STOP HITTING ME" without being gagged
>>78969392
>we got the sea
Top kek
>>78965584
Lol and they will enforce this with what army? The US will never agree to back them because of this shit, and if the jew backed politicians there do there'll be a mutiny and they'll be killed.
Jews acted too quickly and showed their cards. The rapid jewish accumulation of power is going to have an equal "pop" of the bubble.
It's basic logic. Meteoric quick rises always have an equivalent drop.
>>78966698
I'm American. Can we do day of rope, too?
>>78978467
Here, have a meme.
But seriously, don't do this. Despite all the "based Putin" memes, Russia is still shit to live under. Though, with the way things are going, it may be slightly better than the EU. You know, until they jump on the NWO bandwagon like they weren't already.
>>78979812
yet the commissioner was sent to the eu by people YOU voted for.
globalists are desperate
>>78965584
she's making the caliphate now
Why have nobody got to her yet?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQadT7fC6uM&feature=youtu.be&t=389 - Hitler Pump
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8buh5A70loA
Holy shirt. Merkel is actually doing it. The absolute madwoman.
>>78980058
>The US will never agree to back them because of this shit
If Hillary win the US will jewishly help the EU int the subjugation of european.
Their freedom exist by destroying everyone else's.
>>78979370
> politicians actually fullfil their election promises
Nicely memed
>>78965584
WEW
FUCKING
LAD
They're turning up the heat.
>>78980155
yeah that's just our issue with having an old guard of established parties entrenched within our system by a shitty FPTP voting system.
what amazes me is how incredibly cucked the rest of europe can be, even when they have proportional representation and don't have to worry about voting tactically.
>>78980058
They are masters of working slow. Like a glacier. But when exposed, well, they are showing some human qualities.
My only hope for this is that it leads to the 48% saying "Well fuck you were right, lets work on this "non-EU" shit then" instead of their shitty petitions and MP's asking for more referendums
I know it won't happen. I know they will probably spin it like "We'll be just leave GREAT AMERICA! :D" and the youth will eat it all up.
But it might have a positive affect, right?
>>78979961
>abusive relationships are okay as long as everyone involved can decide not to participate
there i fixed it
>>78980155
We voted the central bank in?
All of them are rothschild's servants.
>>78966698
Will you accept foreign US fighters?
>>78971995
>>78978358
>>78979144
lol if you think there isn't a plan to incapacitate US involvement on a scale far greater than Pearl Harbour.
>>78968256
This time we nuke the Caliphate of Germanistan into oblivion
>>78965584
>has sparked panic in Poland
What? Poland would be Ukraine 2.0 without the EU
>>78965584
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
British remainers BTFO!
Go ahead Scotland. Fucking leave. I dare you.
>>78980685
These rabid monsters must be stopped.
Europeans will only be pushed so far. I say they keep doing what they're doing and eventually it's all going to blow up in their face. We all know who is responsible for all of this! It has always been one enemy.
>The Lion
http://youtu.be/sn4mVDtqi7g?list=PLtJLc4f5VwV3CFAp_E0hbo2VqrIyQLDDq
>>78969392
Nothing like a world war to bring us together.
>>78965584
>>78980650
just like in every central bank all over the world they are appointed by politicians you voted for
>>78973066
Top bantz.
>>78969853
It's happening, but ethnic Germans are the group being persecuted.
>>78973029
Made me kek
>>78980797
Think it'll come to our continent this time?
>>78980575
>i don't know how abusive relationship dynamics work
t. cucked by postal votes
>>78981092
I hope so. I'll head straight for our border.
>>78980870
that's the reverse.
Even our minister of finance was appointed by the rothschild bank.
Macron shitboy.
>>78965584
Korwin Party takeover when?
>>78974071
This. The pressure's building, the whole continent's about to erupt
It's finally happening.
>>78981393
Probably never, but PiS is good enough for now.
>>78980870
Representative democracy is a scam. It can only work if politicians were legally bound to keep all their election promises.
>>78981092
>That pic
As a civil engineer it pains me more to see those beautiful bridges getting vaporized than the all the humans dying there.
>>78975774
The kikes are overstepping their bounds again. This will end up biting them in the ass
>>78981159
>i don't know how abusive relationship dynamics work
yeah actually i dont know, but we are not talking about powerless children/subs.
we are talking about governments.
>>78966657
>The plot has sparked fury and panic in Poland .... after being leaked to Polish news channel TVP Info.
http://www.tvp.info/25945567/debata-na-temat-superpanstwa-wygasnie-po-23-dniach
>>78980685
that plan was triggered 20 years ago when the globalists moved all the factories to China ;)
the eternal aryan has allied with the eternal jew and they are playing the long game now
>>78980045
those are aircraft carriers, you tit
>>78981772
You can bet your sorry ass we are mad. We didn't fight for our own country for so many years just to give it to Germany just like that.
>>78981949
ballistic missles will BTFO any ship
we have the most of those
>>78974739
>unter deutscher Federführung
>Angela (((Kasner)))
>German Leadership
chose one
>>78965584
>express
All the problems of the EU are a result of the European Commission existing and giving it the sole power to make laws. If the EU were to eliminate the commission, give the parliament the power to make laws, and make it a bicameral entity which works similar to the USA congress, it would work as intended.
Prove me wrong.
>>78977116
I knew it! I said so the other day on here. Brexit was just part of the NWO plan.
>>78981772
>Ja podchodzę do tej propozycji ze spokojem – mówił w programie...
"I'm not worried looking at this, Mark Magierowski said on "24 minutes", lots of these sorts of documents get created. As always, these visions of the Europe of the future lean towards a federation, in other words a superstate. This is just another such occurrence. there's nothing refreshing in this document. I think discussion of it will cease in 2 or 3 days - such was the conviction of TVP info's guest."
>>78981627
I just wish it was possible to be close enough to witness it without dying
>>78982853
>Mark Magierowski
Literally who?
>>78982020
Of course tradition dictates that for that to happen, Austria and Russia have to be in on the scheme.
>>78982020
Some were working hard to sell it and mostly did. Like that one grandson of member of Wehrmacht that is the most of the influential Polish politician in EU.
>>78965584
This was a coup.
Brexit was the plan all along. Now that the most powerful opposition to integration has been removed, integration can begin in earnest. Germany and France are powerful enough to overcome all remaining opposition. The UK will have to retain all of the same EU regulations as before if they want access to the common market, but now they have no say and now they cannot stop integration. In fact, now they likely will not get to keep their opt outs as before. They may have to be submit to all EU regulations.
Why else would the EU race to make the UK exit immediately. If the EU was so much stronger with the UK, why, when they see the British regretting their advisory decision, would they ignore all opportunities to try and overrule the referendum? Wouldn't you make at least some token attempt to say, are you sure? No. They didn't. They ran straight away to say get out immediately and then began their "stronger Europe" PR campaign and this memo gets leaked. This was the plan. Integration can now begin and no one can stop it.
Now the UK will be punished, the EU will integrate into a super state. The UK will be forced to either join later as a fully integrated member or have a subservient trade deal.
The UK went from a strong position of influence in EU law and policy and opposition to integration while maintaining its opt outs to being moved out of the way so that Germany and France together can integrate the EU unopposed and the UK will be forced into worse terms and have no influence.
This was a coup.
>>78983319
He is still afraid to show his sorry ass in Poland. What will he do when they fire him?
>>78982020
You will be a state it will be nice. You are close to germany you will be invested in. Germeny is already bulding your country. We will be happy thogeter belive it. We in sweden will be happy it will be good for all of us.
>>78983365
>shills stay using the language the use before
>think no one will notice
>>78983365
I'm happy i want a superstate
>>78980045
BRITANNIA RULES THE WAVES
>>78982820
>implying it's no working as intended
>>78982923
And to think that's one of the weakest ones. Nowadays nukes have megatons of power
>>78982343
DailyMail reports it too
R E M O V E
>>78983447
He will join his grandfather. : ^)
>federalisation of Europe complete
>Germany takes over Europe without firing a round
>WW3 breaks out
>be conscripted into British Army
>muh diversity means women too
>fight in my own city streets to repel EU forces
>killed by friendly fire because the woman next to me can't throw a grenade properly
>>78965584
>>78965584
YES YES YES
>all dat gibs
>all dat wage increase
>all dat surge in the right wing after eastern europe joins
>all dat military standartization and expansion
>all dat 450 white million population
>all dat #2 world power
>all dat outsourcing
>all dat US butthurt
>all dat scientific advancement
>all dat fusion research
Face it, fags, if Europe doesn't unite, chinese, russians and americans will slowly creep on the continent and we'll have cold war 2, but even more fucked.
And, understandably, perfidious albion tries to destroy european unity once again. Not a surprise, given that bongs throughout their entire history only dragged europe down.
>>78983548
An empire of cucks, Sven? :^)
>>78983464
Actually, I'm just trying to get it out there. You don't have to believe me and call me a conspiratard, but let's be honest, where am I wrong? At what point after an advisory, non-binding, referendum did the EU come out and try to stop this? If the UK was so important to the EU, why so little attempt to save it? It seems they had more of a condescending tone from the start and talked of punishment because they knew it would piss of the British people and make them indignant so they would vote Leave. Even after the vote, the EU could still have fanned the flames of those who were talking about another referendum or calling for a general election or any number of ways this could have been overruled. The EU didn't even do nothing. They did SOMETHING. They said, get out now. Start the process immediately. Why so hasty? Methinks their haste betrays them. And only several days later, France and Germany come out together to start PR campaigning for a stronger Europe and we get this memo. Their actions betray them and it is clear that this is what they wanted all along. No more opposition to an integrated EU super state. It's happening and Germany and France together are going to strong arm all the other members to going along.
>>78983365
>The UK went from a strong position of influence in EU law and policy
We had no say over the law or policy to begin with you uneducated faggot, that's a big reason why we wanted to leave.
>>78975641
Why can't we be our own country, working with the EU, trading with the EU, allied to the EU but not part of the EU?
>>78984187
Your country has a lower per capita GDP than flipping Belarus m8, EU and all
>>78967915
>that swede that spams that photo
Kalergi was a Hungarian-Jap hapa, not a jew
I'd like to see how they plan on achieving this. Literally no European country would agree to this.
>>78984425
>Literally no European country would agree to this.
That's the problem. They don't have to.
>>78984187
>Europe as a country has some of the worst unemployment, growth rate, terrorism, and declining STEM aptitudes in the wrold
>writing this list unironically
>mfw
>>78984251
>shills shilling thinking we don't know shills
At least change the script to what you were using before the referendum.
>>78984513
Which is why the UK left. Prediction: article 50 will be remove before this day next year.
>>78983365
We did not have strong or any real influence. We were the second least represented nation in the EU Parliament and less than 6% of the Commission was from Britain. Every time Britain went against a decision of the Commission, we lost.
>>78983789
D U D E
Realistically, the only conclusion if this is actually true is that the EU wants to kill itself really badly.
This is the worst time to propose this, nationalist parties are on the rise all over Europe and less and less people like the concept of a union, let alone a unified supercontinent. The only thing this would bring is certain victory to every anti-european party in Europe.
Unless of course we get the blitzkrieg treatment again, in which case it's gonna be an interesting decade...
>>78984300
You certainly weren't writing it, but you have always been able to keep things out that you absolutely did not want or at least were given an opt out clause. You won't have that anymore. Whatever they dictate will be what you have to accept or else you don't have free access to the common market. I don't imply you wrote it before, but now you have no input at all.
>>78973207
You and you alone faggot
>>78984187
The EU's a disaster zone with unemployment at 20% and dropping, massive discontent, uncontrolled borders, fragmented security policies and little actual co-ordination of science or technology projects, many of which are funded on an ideological basis rather than reality.
You are more likely to get funded if you're an interpretative dance group that's pro-EU than a legitimate engineering project that's against the EU's ideological concerns.
The way this is going there will be a big war in europe in 15 years
>>78984819
That's alright. The US has to comply with EU regulations as well whenever it trades with the EU.
>>78984949
With the catalyst being an organization meant to stop wars in Europe because it's leaders went in a fucking powertrip.
>>78984949
I think by then I will manage to move to the US or UK.
>>78984770
if i read your textwall, will i be able to vote in a relevant referendum afterwards?
>>78984917
>murifat can't take the cheeky banter
no surprises there. here let me spell it out for you. I WASN'T BEING SERIOUS
>>78985064
Ironic, right? Although I can't help but think it was the reason the EU existed in the first place.
>>78969392
Well get the air
>>78984612
I actually was in favor of Brexit before the referendum. I thought it was a good shot across the bow of the globalists and perhaps would lead to the end of the EU.
Turns out, that was incorrect thinking. The EU showed that they were all too happy to see the UK go and are quite emphatic about them getting out right away. Instead of talking about the end of the EU, we're in a thread discussing the creation of an integrated super state which was the goal all along. Pre-referendum, if there was a Leave vote win, did you see this happening? Or were you expecting things to be different. I sure was. Now I am left with the fact that I and others got it wrong and we were played from the start. We were fooled into supporting the only way they could have gotten total integration, and that was by expelling the UK.
>>78985219
No matter what the decision is, the people always lose. The game was rigged from the start burgerfriend. But still, we play.
Germany in History
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFrcl6VGrDQ
>>78985219
The EU, or rather Germany and France, trying to create a superstate with them in control, is the easiest way to destroy the EU.
Nationalist sentiment is the highest it has been since the second world war. There would be violent revolt against any national government attempting to implement this type of agreement.
>>78985219
You're completely wrong or a shill if you think they are happy. They are trying to move too quickly now because they are scared.
>>78985219
Ah, so this is you:
http://www.nbcnews.com/video/brexit-regrets-for-leave-voter-who-changed-her-mind-712185923655
>>78984393
Exactly, with our meme government gone and standartization of laws and education with the west, that'll change.
>>78984612
>8.8%
>meanwhile US' is between 6-9%
>worse unemployment
>Panama spic having an opinion about a continent he can't point on a map
Epin
>declining STEM aptitudes
Source?
>growth rates
>EU: 1.4
>US: 2.4
Such low
>>78985467
But much easier to put down with an EU army made up of soldiers that don't come from whatever country specific units are sent to. Armies don't generally like to fire on their own people...but if they aren't their own people...
>>78981810
So instead of blowing up our factories they've been moved to china.
USA has no manufacturing backbone and now we're going to die?
>>78984187
FUCK YOU, GET OUT OF MY COUNTRY YOU TRATOROUS SCUMSHIT. BURN WITH THE EU, BURN!
I wouldn't mind.
>>78982923
Moar plox
>>78985471
No shill, but it's perfectly possible that I am wrong. I have no secret knowledge. I was either wrong pre-referendum or wrong now. I have been on both sides. I'm just trying to make sense of the info as we get it like most of us. I just happen to feel strongly that I am now correct. I don't really think THEY are scared. I think they are going to play on general fear of EU members to rush through their integration plan. They will probably say it's absolutely necessary to stave off a depression. I mean, these are bankers. Don't rule out them manipulating markets to give them whatever atmosphere they need for their narrative.
>>78985740
Trying to implement that would, by itself, trigger a revolt.
Most western European countries have majorities for exiting the EU, many of those in favour of remaining want to see it drastically cut down to size. The amount of actual federalists are very small.
The dream is dead. Literally.
/pol/ was right again
I called this shit years ago guys. Germany's intentionally trying to crash the Eurozone so they can drop the Euro and adopt the Deutschemark. They want to be the defacto leaders of the European Union with nobody to challenge them. They've been working at this for over a decade.
>>78985520
Burgers don't get votes there.
>>78985576
>8.8
>not 9.6, with an average of 35% with people under 25
>Bulgarian mathematics
And yes, that's pretty low
>>78985890
Of course you wouldn't, Portugal is shit.
>>78978939
>No join?
>No trade
>pay denbts btw
>>78986085
>the point
>
>
>
>
>your head
>>78985407
>that delivery
Jesus fucking christ that was amazingly bad
>>78986059
>They want to be the defacto leaders of the European Union with nobody to challenge them.
Their army is worse than shit.
>>78986137
Portugal is shit because it got trapped in the EU. So yeah if we're this deep might as well turn into a state.
>>78986322
Everybody else's army is worse than Germany's.
>>78967915
JEW WORLD ORDER LADS
>>78986355
Yeah, by all means. Every state that isn't germany goes straight to shit, France included.
>like such thing would be even possible....
>>78986292
Hhhnnggg I love America great edition
You some guys issued an ultimatum to Serbia once. anyone remember how that turned out?
>>78986421
You know jack shit about European armies so please shut the fuck up.
Thanks.
Germany has no real army.
>>78986421
France is superior to them. So is UK.
Germany should not have a good army because all they do is spreading cancer.
>>78986539
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocW3fBqPQkU
>>78986505
I um
are you okay?
>>78985864
Die in your pseudonationalistic bucket of shit, you subhuman selqndur. Not everyone has a IQ below 80 and wants to suck russian dick for nothing, while resieving 400 leva wage. All the smart people ran away from here because of your meme isolationism and selqndurstvo, you fucking fag. Bulgaria is bound to turn into a even bigger shithole if we don't bring capital from the outside to keep people here.
>>78986137
>8.8
>9.6
>difference
>35% youth unemployment
People study higher education in Europe until 23-24, I'm not sure if you have that there.
>Bulgarian mathematics
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Mathematical_Olympiad#Notable_achievements
Would you look at that, I don't see Panama here.
>>78981810
>>78985776
There is manufacturing in the US. Not as much as it had in the past, but it's there. We are far from post-industrial.
>>78986646
Now I am
>>78986794
>We are far from post-industrial.
However, most foreign and domestic manufacturers in the US have or plan to relocate to Mexico.
>>78986934
dats lewd
>>78987085
Over the WALL?
>>78986727
Fucking retard, you'll will literally sell your mother for an extra euro. Jewish ciganin, they brainwashed your 12 year old brain good didnt they kuchko?
i'll see you hang in Ruse's square before I let you sell us to muslims.
>>78986223
Really?
>>78982923
This makes me sooo hard.
>>78986539
>>78986614
Then US cucks came in and stopped it. Soros has already expressed his displeasure of the british exit, as has your negro president. I wouldn't be the least surprised if they colluded to make the EUSSR a reality before the UK could decide to actually leave.
>>78987284
Yeah stay in your subhuman town and dwell on minimum wage, you fag. Without the EU, mother Russia will bring you poverty and more immigration, just how you want it.
Also
>Europe
>muslim
>he fell for the islamization meme
On the other hand, Ruse and the region have a fair share of turks.
>>78973831
>the german doesn't say pay debts to the Greek
Missed opportunities...
>>78973831
the video ignored many things such as the byrocrats try to make an army
also
>what about human nature, ever think of that?
>>78986727
>People study higher education in Europe until 23-24, I'm not sure if you have that there.
That doesn't even make sense. Even if you were to grab every single person studying a degree in Europe as a whole, 20 million by the EU estimates and is not all composed of people under 25, that still leaves 31 million Europeans under the age of 25 who are unemployed. But fun fact, Eurostat, from which the 35% number is acquired, doesn't call most of those 31 million unemployed, they call them economically inactive, which is bullshit, because if all those 31 millions were counted as unemployed, your numbers rise up to 50%, and that's without including the people studying, which pushes it to 65%!
>>78983548
Of course you would you giant faggot
That's it /pol/
i'm calling it out now..
OH LORD KEK HEAR US AND BLESS US WITH DUBS
World War 3 will start over nations leaving the EU.
The new central german nation .. err i mean EU will go to war against the countries leaving it to reclaim them.
the war will go on for 10 years.
in the first 5 years the US will stay out of it but still provide support to the countries leaving the EU. Russia will watch hungrily and provide to east european nations in anticipation of snactching them up.
nukes will fly. kebab will be blamed. germany will cease to exist. there even won't be a east/west germany if it loses this war.
this will leave europe in shambles and 1/2 taken over by russia.
then the middle east may end up being part of the end punch line by starting with nuclear strikes.
>>78987631
Fuck you and your liberal dellusions that getting rid of our defense, laws and banks would give us a better way of life you muslim loving turk putka.
Literally everything you said was backwords.
>EU
>not an islamic project
>Russia
>anything to do with mass immigrations
Дaй ми aдpec, дaй ми cнимкa.
>>78987987
you dont understand
if nukes are used then thats it
http://www.giantbomb.com/fallout-3/3030-20504/forums/nuclear-warfare-101-wall-of-text-alert-2999/
>>78987992
>liberal dellusions
As opposed to the "nationalistic" delusions that haven't done anything ever for us, ever.
>our defense
We have a meme armed forces, so not a big loss.
>laws
Literal rubbish, don't you watch the news.
Дaй ми aдpec, дaй ми cнимкa.
Subhuman sub 70 IQ panelka-dweller confirmed
>muslim loving turk putka
nice
>banks
>he thinks there are bulgarian banks
>he thinks banks wont expand as more capital comes in
>Russia
>anything to do with mass immigrations
Meant emigration, no sane person would stay to be a poverty putinbot.
>>78987825
>economically inactive
That includes students
>>78988283
wich would leave europe devastated. following up with the middle east filling that position of power
what survives of europe will probably try take over 1/2 of africa in a reverse refugee crisis. (and russia)
>>78987987
Oh don't you worry. Your leaders will drag you into it aswell. And the last men, that are still men in America, will die.
>>78988902
honestly i think this would be the catalyst that would spark the 2nd american civil war
>>78973454
>t. randstad bewoner
>>78988707
>nationalism hasnt done anything ever for us
>one of the main reasons roaches and gypsies get pummled into submission
>We have a meme armed forces, so not a big loss.
We have a better army than most in the balkan.
>laws
Confirmed for ciganin trying to sound smart. I bet you just want less laws because you want more metal and wallets мaйкa ти пpocтa.
>he thinks there are no bulgarian banks
>no sane person would stay to be a poverty putinbot.
You dont need to suck up to Putin to remain a sovereign country, you piece of globalist shit.
>>78982020
PEXIT PLS
>>78988707
Which I eliminate from the calculation, you mong.
There are currently 75 million people between 18-25, of which 24 millions work, 20 million study (a generous number, I remind you again, because that includes everyone who studies), and 31 million left who are clearly not studying, nor working. Of these, only 17 million are officially considered unemployed, but then what the hell happened to the other 14 million left who are included in the total number amount of economically inactive individuals but are clearly not being counted as studying by their own accounting.
In general, what are you even arguing about? Students do not explain the enormous gap.
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