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>Greater Damascus June 26
http://i.imgur.com/Nkba24Q.jpg
>Southern Hama June 26
http://i.imgur.com/dFwMa8G.jpg
>Darayya June 25
http://i.imgur.com/iB8bYsG.jpg
>Fallujah June 24
http://i.imgur.com/GnjPjYc.jpg
>East Ghouta June 22
https://i.imgur.com/secZb7B.jpg
>Raqqah June 22
https://i.imgur.com/qb3qbXV.jpg
>Manbij June 22
https://i.imgur.com/uz019Eo.jpg
>South Aleppo June 18
https://i.imgur.com/A9WTxMG.jpg
DEVELOPMENTS
JUNE 26
On map:
>SAA+NDF recapture Ramliyah
>SAA+Tiger Forces capture al-Asamat and possibly more areas of the Mallah farms, north of Aleppo city
>SyAAF strikes several ISIS positions and vehicles at Thardeh mountains and southeast of Deir Ez-Zor
>SDF+YPG reach northern Manbij city edge, further gains in western suburbs
>SAA clashes with ISIS on the Palmyra-Arak road
Not on map:
>SyAAF targets ISIS at Huwaysis (town was lost yesterday)
JUNE 25
>RuAF rekt some Ahrar al-Sham HQ/Emirs in West Ghouta
>ISIS captures Huwaysis town (next to T4 - Hama province road)
>Nusra-aligned jihadis briefly capture Ramliyah (west of Salamiyah)
>Aleppo northwestern district clashes
>Previous >>78728197
OP shamelessly samefagging for:
First for al-Nimr
>>78805013
Hassanime!
>>78805237
Greater Syria is best Syria
reposting
is this what's currently happening in north aleppo?
It's mostly empty desert, i wonder if they can hold it. They need to wipe out handarat camp and/or hraytan in the west and aleppo is sealed up.
Obligatory
Things arent going so well east of Palmyra sadly
And neither north of Tiyas T4 Airbase
Hoping SAA&NDF there can salvage the situation.
>>78805670
Yop thats about right
Handarat camp seems to have been very difficult to attack. Maybe surrounding it and creating a western advance can finally crack it
I had already updated the shit, but whatever
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>Fallujah June 26
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>Homs Pocket June 26
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https://i.imgur.com/GiBPeAh.jpg
>Shirqat June 25
https://i.imgur.com/4P8Me1L.jpg
>East Ghouta June 22
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>Fallujah June 22
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DEVELOPMENTS JUNE 26
>Syrian Democratic Forces reach northern gates of Menbeij
>Syrian Army restores Ramliyah in east Hama
>ISIS threatens Syrian Army’s supply route to Palmyra
>Hezbollah recovers the bodies of three fighters killed in southern Aleppo
>Russians launches non-stop air campaign over northern Aleppo
>Syrian Army considers another west Raqqa offensive
>Russian Air Force kills two Ahrar Al-Sham emirs in West Ghouta
>Iraqi Army officially liberates Fallujah
>Houthi forces capture several sites near strategic Saudi base
>SouthFront June 23
https://youtu.be/qN2CFU83QgU
Previous >>78728197
PKK uses MBB MILAN ATGM against Turkish security forces
https://twitter.com/Derinkuvvet/status/747012079421358081 (embed)
>>78805800
Don't worry m8, Palmyra won't fall to ISIS again. The bad thing is that an operation to lift the siege on Deir Ezzor is off the table for the moment, but some hezbollah reinforcements were sent there last week, that's why ISIS hasn't try anything there since last week.
>>78806051
This is great
>nato countries give milan to YPG and Peshmerga
>YPG and Peshmerga give it to PKK
>PKK attacks a nato country with it
>>78806051
Could you elaborate?
>>78806051
>(embed)
Also who would have expected that if you send 30 launchers and 500 rockets to the kurds in syria they might end up in other kurdish militias? Totally unexpected. Just like those TOWs that made it to islamists...
Have a video of Merkel proudly announcing that kurds name their children after the rocket system because they are so thankful for it.
>>78806374
>>78806051
forgot the video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRs78ieBC1c
>>78806322
That's not something new though.
I have been to Turkish military museum and they have a section dedicated to captured weapons of PKK.
They have plenty of NATO equipment. Belgium, Germany, Greece and Italy has supplied them with weapons.
But when Turkey provides weapons to others, these countries cry foul.
>>78806322
Actually Turks themselves have license to make MILANs afaik. But I'm sure they will find a way to make Germany take another 10 million turks there no matter where those missiles came from.
>>78805858
Oh I see
Then for next thread its
>Greater Damascus June 26
http://i.imgur.com/Nkba24Q.jpg
>Fallujah June 26
https://i.imgur.com/U7J8Yze.jpg
>Homs Pocket June 26
https://i.imgur.com/yyBUB3n.jpg
>Manbij June 25
http://i.imgur.com/ZdN8eU7.jpg
>Darayya June 25
https://i.imgur.com/GiBPeAh.jpg
>Shirqat June 25
https://i.imgur.com/4P8Me1L.jpg
>East Ghouta June 22
https://i.imgur.com/secZb7B.jpg
>Raqqah June 22
https://i.imgur.com/qb3qbXV.jpg
>>78806373
There are three possible sources
1. Corrupted Peshmerga officials provided MILANs to PKK
2. YPG captured them from Syrian military or ISIS and provided them to PKK...
>>78806531
>Belgium, Germany, Greece and Italy has supplied them with weapons.
>Greece
How unexpected. You reap what you saw.
>>78805800
>>78806313
Shit
ISIS attack also south of Qaryatayn
https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/field-report-isis-clashes-syrian-army-northeastern-homs-map-update/
What the fuck, ISIS is putting a lot of pressure on eastern Homs
>>78806586
No, Turkey had a license to build ERYX ATGM...
ERYX hasn't been seen in Syria though.
>>78806722
The Syrian Military or ISIS don't have MILAN systems. Also the YPG wouldn't need to steal them, we send 30 Launchers and 500 rockets to them last year. Also a few hundred machine guns, small arms and tons of ammunition.
>>78806823
Just checked and it appears you use them and do have the license to build them: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MILAN#Current_operators
>>78806857
SAA definetly has Milans.
>>78806783
Is it only me or is ISIS only putting effort against the rebels and government troops but not against the Kurds? The kurds have been advancing non stop and there was never a counter offensive by ISIS.
>>78807078
yeah, forgot about that. Still the kurds have no reason to steal them, they already have a shit ton of them.
>>78806728
This gives another reason to Turkey for hitting YPG
Also somehow I hope they sabotage these German planes in Incirlik.
A German pilot going down in Syria and getting captured would be fun.
>>78807187
What about the whole Kobane thing?
>>78807187
seems true..
ISIS counterattacked retaking al-Rai from the Azaz rebels
ISIS heavily attacking east/central Homs and the Tabqah pushback
Only half-decent counterattack ISIS did to the Kurds was northwest of Manbij on June 15, I think, and that was over within a day
>>78807574
He means lately, I think
>>78807574
Yeah, I mean after that. It's like Kobane was the ultimate defeat for ISIS and they accepeted they can't win against the Kurds.
>>78806322
What a surprise, who would have thought it?
>>78806783
Now, Qaryatayn is another history, I wouldn't be surprised if ISIS captures the town again. No russian military base there like Palmyra and mostly defended by NDF (even more incompetent than your average SAA soldier).
Let's hope they send reinforcements there or some help from the RuAF attack helis.
does no one care about fallujah?
this is a pretty huge hit for ISIS. they must've lost a lot of morale from this
>>78806051
>implying this is bad
>@BBC Persian has reported 6 members of #Iran #IRGC have been killed including a senior member | #TwitterKurds #Kurdistan
https://twitter.com/RojhelatRising/status/747086956333498368
>>78810261
I do, but i was waiting for more info. i still can't believe it
Hw about the Aleppo front?
Daily reminder that kurds are backstabbing commies who intend to balkanize Syria and keep the agricultural and oil-rich parts for themselves.
>>78812207
Yeah, I still can't believe how quickly the ISF and PMU swept that city
>>78808148
I really don't think Qayartayn will fall any time soon. ISIS has nowhere to attack from. that whole area that ISIS controlls is just mountains and desert.
>>78811139
Fucking Kurds.
Cant trust the Kurds.
>>78812415
al mallah farms supposedly taken to a large extend
>>78812942
>inb4 all gains reversed
>>78812882
>trusting kurds in the first place
/pol/ is sucking their dicks on a daily basis.
>>78808148
Seen reports of SAA presence, not just NDF defense
But indeed, lets hope for the best.
It would fucking suck if Qaryatayn were to fall again. Many of its citizens were resettled in the town after the recapture in early April.
>>78813075
entirely possible. It's mainly open desert. They need to take out hraytan to the west and handarat camp to the east.
MALLAH FARMS MAP!!
>>78814227
>Kurds not attacking from the south
Jesus Christ how I fuckin' hate those kurdshits.
>>78814721
>implying an american puppet would assist a legitimate ME government
>>78814721
The Kurds are in a pretty tight spot in Sheikh Maqsoud, theyre constantly attacked
Also if anything, the Kurds in Sheikh Maqsoud might be the most trustworthy of all Kurds in Syria because (I would think) they dont have territorial ambitions, theyre just defending the neighbourhood where they already lived
Im sure they would highly appreciate the pressure being taken off their areas if SAA were to close the Castello road gap.
Whether they will remember that appreciation for long or start chimping out immediately after, is a good question though
>>78814721
they did that before and they got gassed by Nusrats
the YPG in Sheik Maqsood don't have enough firepower to attack anymore.
>>78814227
Didn't that Syrian guy who claimed to be part of the army say he's near Hraytan.
>>78815323
don't even bother. no matter what the YPG does they will always be considered the bad guys here.
they could rescue Assad himself and people will still hate the YPG
>>78815424
Yup.. maybe he got to see the Tiger today?
Wonder if his unit is helping with the offensive.
Lets hope he posts again sometime.
>>78815781
well Id like to think there will be a difference between the Afrin/Sheikh Maqsoud/PYD to be a bit more friendly and cooperative with Syrian gov than perhaps some YPG/SDF officials from Kobane
Some reports that Al Mallah farms are under SAA control in Aleppo
Also, it looks like the YPG is getting BTFO by ISIS (51 killed yesterday including 14 by a car bomb)
https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/battle-manbij-city-takes-deadly-toll-syrian-democratic-forces/
Not sure how true it is but i am disappointed that the US was stupid enough to encircle ISIS nontheless.
>>78817513
Ivan now reports more serious Nusra&friends counterattacks at Mallah
Apparently some Afghani militias are surrounded at al-Asamat
>>78815781
I won't :3
>>78817656
Just looked at that. He says that report is from 4 hours ago
>>78817656
>>78817891
My bad, hostile Afghani militias, that is!
>Pro-jihadi accounts on social media mourned the death of dozens of its fighters in the clashes. The Turkish-backed Nour Edine al-Zinki Movement said it lost contact with a group of its Afghani fighters who have been trapped inside Al-Asamat area.
https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/aleppo-battle-update-syrian-army-fully-recaptures-eastern-parts-mallah-map/
>>78814928
>>78815323
>>78815423
At least harass the nusrats with mortars or snipers, I'm not saying they should launch a full "human wave" attack on the jihadist positions.
Also
They tried to kill Motorolla again...
>http://www.themoscowtimes.com/news/article/assassination-attempt-on-separatist-leader-in-ukraines-donetsk--reports/573405.html
https://amaq.ch/2016/06/26/تدمير-عربة-bmp-وسيارة-رباعية-الدفع-للوحد/
KURDSHITS GETTING SANDWICHED BY ISIS
Sadly I cant establish which exact pro-gov groups are involved in the Mallah farms offensive besides that the Tiger Forces are there and some SAA regiment, but heres an updated map for now
Any info is welcome
>>78818167
Yeah... i already said this but encircling ISIS was a bad idea. There is a good reason why ever since Russia joined, the SAA was deliberately keeping escape routes open for the rebels before trying to move in.
Bump
>>78817693
anybody got the pic of the hippy flowerchild girl? looks just like this woman. would be a good "at first i was like.. then i was like" meme.
>>78819845
A kurd? Rare or common? I'm not sure what you mean, but I have gigs of kurdish girls.
>>78819845
One of these, maybe?
>>78820407
>>78820297
>78820297
Fucking pedophile kurdshit
>>78820407
are you a fuckin pedophile or what?
>>78820503
>>78817945
>At least harass the nusrats with mortars or snipers
they do often
>>78819845
I know the exact pic you're talking about and it does look like her.
>>78817945
They attacked Nusrats and don't let them resupply through their area. What are they supposed to do?
They're getting shelled all the time and they can't resupply. They are already aiding the SAA and hurting the FSA just by existing.
>>78820407
>this kills the turk
>>78820596
Why do you ask that? None of these are even remotely erotic.
>>78820823
why the fuck do you have gigs of kurdish girls under the age of 18?
![COLLEGE-LIBERAL[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/ebrQNrQ.jpg "COLLEGE-LIBERAL[1].jpg")
>>78820751
>>78817693
Heh google "hippie girl with dreads meme"
>>78820641
>>78820929
Why would you think they are all underage?
>>78818646
i would say
Hezbollah
Liwa al Quds (cannon fodder)
Liwa Fatemiyoun (cannon fodder)
And some iraqi militias probably something like the Badr brigades and/or Imam Ali Brigade (which i know are a 100% present in South Aleppo)
>>78821096
because to this moment you posted only underage kurd girls
>>78820806
FUGG I'm dead now
>looking for syrian war memes on facebook
>stumble upon Chilebro's account
>>78821292
Just a coincidence. Lurk moar. The funniest/most memetic pics just happen to be of young ones.
>>78821553
post it
>>78821723
>The funniest/most memetic pics just happen to be of young ones.
Hottest*.
>>78822161
Is it true that that the commander Eissam fled Deir Ezzor?
the saa in the deir ezzor pocket will get slaughtered, SAA can't even defend itself from ISIS attacks: look at what is happening around qaryatayn, palmyra and athreya...
>>78822486
Deir ezzor is holding for a long time and has just been reinforced. Calm down
ISIS will only be able to route the SAA in open areas. They cant retake a town like Palmyra cause of airstrikes. In the dessert they feel at home and its the place most of their commanders have the most experience in (life wise and fighting wise)
>>78822275
Most beautiful kurds tend to look jewish, and that's a no-no to me. The kikeness doesn't pop up until ~30s.
>>78822833 was meant for >>78822772
guys help, i accidentally took my waifus head off, i need instructions on how to put it back on also biji wiji turdistan
>>78806051
>PKK uses MBB MILAN ATGM against Turks
FINALLY!
It has begun!
>>78821118
At this point, the Hezbollah fighters are also cannon fodder.
>>78822833
so all the rumors talking about an SAA "deirezzor offensive" are false?
>>78823632
Not really m8,
Most of the time the hezbollah fighters are the best trained of the bunch. What you see alot is groups of afghans or iraqi militias being led by one or two lebanese hezbollah fighters. The goes the same with most SAA or NDF units.
Back in the day the hezbollah would do the brunt of the fighting in places like zabadani or ghouta, but as of late their experience and training are more valueable, leading to what i experience in the first bit of this post.
source: pro-SAA and militant tweets
https://www.rt.com/news/348497-israel-turkey-normalize-ties/
OY VEY GOYIM
>NEW MAP: Military situation in #Hama and #Homs Goverorates
>>78821118
A good start, maybe Ba'ath battalions too?
btw wasnt Liwa Fatemiyoun mostly active in eastern Syria?
I bet al-Masdar will report it soon
>>78822772
>Is it true that that the commander Eissam fled Deir Ezzor?
Where the fuck do you get this shit from, Amaq news?
Issam was in Tartous for a few days to meet with officials and families of deceased soldiers
>SAA can't even defend itself from ISIS attacks
You base such a statement on events from the last 5 days.......?
>>78823876
They already tried the offensive and it failed. the tabqa push got all the attention but at the same time the SAA was pushing from palmyra to Arak and the T3 airbase. They capped them both briefly and now are on the retreat aswell; that was the whole offensive. It just got less attention cause of the Tabqa dissaster.
They know that going through open dessert without RUAF airsupport is suicide, but the Ruaf is to busy protection the urban fronts in syria and keeping encircled rebels (ghouta, darayya, aleppo) suppressed. If the SAA would be able to clear these pockets (Jobar, Ghouta, Darayya, Homs) then pushing Deir Ezzor from Palmyra would be an option. At the same time an offensive towards tabqa would have to be launched. For this to work IS needs to be cleared from North Aleppo (what the SDF and FSA are doing right now). I would even go as far as suggesting the SAA should go for Al-Bab and Deir Asafir first before attempting tabqa & deir ezzor again.
The problems is the islamists are on thre offensive in aleppo and they need to be taken care of first.
>>78824220
ayyy lmao
>>78824724
nah m8 when JaF/nusra capped khan tuman, Khalsa zeytan etc etc they captured at least 20 or 30 Liwa Fatemiyoun. Hell there are atleast 30 vids on youtube.
>>78824977
kek
>>78825181
Oh I see, thanks
>Latest #Tiger_Forces Claim posted 11 Minutes ago. Control all Northern #Mallah_Farms
>>78812813
Thats because is gave the city up. Mossul and al raqqa will be the real test.
todays saa offensive looks pretty stable for an arab army, but its the tigers after all.
>>78825622
Wasn't our guest stationed somewhere around these areas?
>>78825622
>mfw the SAA push all the way down to Sheikh Maqsoud
>>78825622
>>78826092
>mfw Syria is liberated today.
>>78825622
>tiger forces claim
>>78825985
Yes, at the Hraytan AKA Haritan frontline
>>78814227
>>78815424
>>78817443
![[HorribleSubs] Tanaka-kun wa Itsumo Kedaruge - 10 [720p].mkv_snapshot_11.11_[2016.06.11_20.46.07].png](https://i.imgur.com/E3ZG5l0.jpg "[HorribleSubs] Tanaka-kun wa Itsumo Kedaruge - 10 [720p].mkv_snapshot_11.11_[2016.06.11_20.46.07].png")
>>78826262
>President al #Assad visited frontline in East Ghouta #Damascus today
>>78807078
SAA doesnt have Milans.
>>78826345
Oh, missed the medic's post.
This is getting interesting.
>>78807658
>>78807621
its because the kurds are basically 90% airstrikes by the coalition
>>78823439
>>78815781
>>78815323
>>78817443
The kurds are basically the new FSA.
So much NATO firepower behind him its obvious the goal isn't to help the kurds defend themselves.
They are racing the SAA to capture ISIS territory, this is why the SAA scrambled a rushed offensive on Tabqa out of nowhere. The kurds are a replacment proxy to the ghost FSA.
I'm so sorry for starting this name degeneracy, it all started when I started tripfagging
>>78822529
2/10 photoshop t*rk
>>78827744
That looks pretty real
>>78826449
>President Bashar al Assad eating breakfast at the Marj al Sultan Airport in #EastGhouta #EasternGhouta
>>78827744
ok
>>78828017
>eating during ramadan
>>78827964
looks choppy as hell to me
its 4 am mate where you from
>>78828256
That's what's wonderful thing about being the head of a secular state, people aren't slaves of religion.
Meanwhile, on the revolutionary FSA side
>>78828017
isnt this within mortar range of the FSA?
>>78828273
4:30, I'm from NSW. What about you?
>>78828548
>implying they have food.
>>78828898
Same time, victorian
>>78827277
Old City should be Autonomous like Mt. Athos though.
Guys, I have a couple of questions about Syria. If you guys could provide links and evidence along with the answers, it would be great. I have stopped following the developments of the Syrian civil war quite some time ago, and some friends of mine have started discussing the issue, and I want to refresh my memory and update my knowledge about the subject.
Before shit hit the fan, was Assad a good or bad president? Was he considered a dictator by its people?
Is it correct to say "before the civil war, Syria was the second most democratic country in the Middle-East, just behind Israel"? If you don't think Israel is a democracy, ignore it, that's not the point. I want to know whether or not Syria was the most stable country in the region, and whether or not it followed the ideals of Western democracies.
Is it true that Syria had an Alawite majority, and are the Alawites the most moderate sect of Islam in the world?
Did Assad really use chemical weapons against civilians? I remember there was a paper about a study of the rockets used in the chemical attacks and they concluded that they could not have been fired from areas controlled by the Syrian Army because the rockets had a very small range. I couldn't find this paper. Do any of you have it?
Is the FSA an ally of ISIS? Or are they working together to remove Assad from power out of temporary convenience? I remember seeing an interview with a high-ranking FSA dude and he claimed he was working with ISIS, but I have also seen intense firefights between FSA and ISIS.
Has the US sent weapons to the FSA to help them? If yes, do they really end up in ISIS hands? If yes, is it because of an alliance between the two or is it because ISIS simply steals/takes them?
>>78828551
Probably the entire RuAf above the perimeter so I wouldn't be worried
>>78828256
Alawites don't celebrate Ramadan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EImpZNDQ6AI&feature=youtu.be
Video of the SAA destroying a rebel held building in Jobar, using underground charges
فيديو مؤثر لطفل مصاب في حلب 'لا تاخدوني عالمقبرة مابدي موت
>"Mr President, i kill a FSA/Nusra today"
>"Good job, keep it up"
>>78831404
KABOOM
>>78831404
>orient news
:DDDD kys
>>78828256
>>78830458
>>78831861
WHAT IS HE DOING THERE
THATS DANGEROUS ASSAD
ASSASINS COULD BE THERE INFILTRATED
Also not sure if it was posted but SAA regained what they lost in eastern Hama.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5q4-uDg6_s&feature=youtu.be
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvyJkTHOXdA
>>78830350
Assad was considered as stable and steadily reforming and progressive as a president, Syria never had any conflicts under his rule. He is a dictator but a benevolent one, one needed to rule an arab country that is a couple generations behind the west so democracy is incompatible.
Syria did not follow the western ideals of democracy, read above point.
Syria has an alawite minority, they hide their religion due to a history of oppression by the sunnis and ottomans. They are very secular but still religious (they fast in ramadan and read quran).
You answered your own question, there were no gains for Assad to use chemical weapons, especially because he invited the UN to inspect a chemical incident in Khan Al Assal.
ISIS' existence stems from the FSA. Up until the capture of Mosul they were under the same umbrella of the FSA and worked together. (FSA is a term given to the numerous groups operating together, they are islamist jihadists at this point.)
The FSA had heaps of support from the US and the west, although the US played a more logistical role, facilitating the weapons it procured from Turkey and Saudi Arabia as well as providing TOW missiles and training and aid which is now seen in ISIS' arsenal. It is not because ISIS' steals from them, but because ISIS is a splinter of the FSA at this point. They used to work in union but ISIS' rampage in Iraq garnered enough power and support that they believed that they should conquer the FSA as well.
>>78830646
Yes they do.
Source: my close friends
>>78830646
I don't think they have to, but I guess they do out of respect / don't eat in public.
>>78830350
wordpress faggot
>>78830350
>Before shit hit the fan, was Assad a good or bad president?
Well, he got shit done. Services were improving, infrastructure wasnt so terrible compared to some in the region, GDP was going well, he was making new alliances. Id say he seems to have been alright. Other people couldve done what he did though, I guess.
>and whether or not it followed the ideals of Western democracies.
Well that it did not. Syria wasnt and isnt a democracy in the western sense at all
Still the Syrian gov heavily screens for example the potential presidential election candidates and many arent allowed to run
Improvements were made though, like the multi-party system - Syrian parliament now has an opposition coalition and many independents.
Logically the West should be thinking that these baby-steps to more democracy are a good start, however for geopolitical reasons many still insist removing Assad would solve all problems (as if Al Qaeda and friends are so democratic)
No matter how undemocratic (from our perspective) the Syrian elections are, they do serve one purpose: given that they were recently monitired by dozens of countries, and many voted in embassies abroad, it gives one the ability to see that many Syrians still support Assad. Because people who hate Assad would either abstain from voting or vote ANY other candidate.. but most didnt.
>the Alawites the most moderate sect of Islam in the world?
This might be true. Which other muslims drink wine and so few wear headscarves?
>Is the FSA an ally of ISIS?
No, they clash regularily indeed. They used to be allies though, some years ago.
>Has the US sent weapons to the FSA to help them? If yes, do they really end up in ISIS hands? If yes, is it because of an alliance between the two or is it because ISIS simply steals/takes them?
Yes. Sometimes. They take them when a FSA area gets overrun.
>>78832497
>>78830646
It is breakfast before the sun comes up, known as suhoor. All sects do this.
>>78832002
* If I am a hairy male, should I shave my butt?*
>>78807187
If they mass against the Kurd they're getting American Air Strikes.
>>78832219
I bet your friends want to fit in with their shia/sunni friends then.
>>78832673
>The Five Pillars of Islam: the creed, prayer, alms, pilgrimage, fasting during Ramadan, are believed only as symbols and there is no need to practice them. They have two other pillars:
http://www.muslimhope.com/Alawites.htm
http://www.discoveringislam.org/alawi_sect.htm
>>78832795
This is incorrect, their whole family fasts every year, so do other families. Alawites are not that different in belief, just their execution of islam is not radical and very tolerant.
>>78832683
What? It obviously says something about death of a young child.
>>78833215
Wow really?
lol
>>78833215
>doing the daesh finger
>>78833072
>Alawites are not that different in belief, just their execution of islam is not radical and very tolerant.
>t. australia
Oh I get it now!
>>78833072
>>78832673
>>78832219
>ausnigger talking war
>>78830350
i'll answer to what i think i know.
>Is it true that Syria had an Alawite majority
No, alawites have always been a quite small minority. Syria has had a sunni majority for a long time.
>and are the Alawites the most moderate sect of Islam in the world?
As i understand it they are quite moderate but there are other sects with quite liberal understandings of islam. The Ibadis that make up most of Omans population for example. The country is called the arab version of swiss for a reason.
>Did Assad really use chemical weapons against civilians?
Highly unlikely, he had absolutely no reason to do so, especially not since there were the whole UN control groups in the country at that time. Also Assad/the syrian military had a shit ton of professional chemical weapons, they could have leveled whole districst if they wanted. What was used were ghetto modded propane barrels filled with sarin strapped to segments of GRAD rocket motors, why build something like that if you have real chemical weapons munitions in storage? And why trigger a "red line" if you can achieve the goals without using weapons despised by the whole world?
You probably mean this pdf here:
https://www.voltairenet.org/IMG/pdf/possible-implications-of-bad-intelligence.pdf
There are at least two others that talk about this topic i know about, one explains the political circumstances (chemical weapons=red line, chemical weapons used, who might've used them, how russia defused the situation) quite well, the other one is like the one i posted and analyzes the weapons and weapon systems used.
What should also be remembered when you talk about chemical weapons in syria: The UN investigation couldn't proof who used them, but Carla del Ponte and other members of the investigation team strongly suggested that most evidence points towards the rebels.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/may/6/syrian-rebels-used-sarin-nerve-gas-not-assads-regi/
>>78833346
You're welcome, buddy. I know you t*rks don't understand arabic since you aren't muslims or genetically related to arabs
What is he looking at /sg/?
>>78830350
>Is the FSA an ally of ISIS?
The FSA is not one uniform block. It's made up of many fractions that range from scum like Jaish al Islam and Ahrar ar Sham that openly ally with scum like jabhat al nusra to more moderate fractions. After years of civil war there is not much left of the moderate fractions, the bulk of the FSA is made up by radicals now. In many areas they share their territory with jabhat al nusra (even in the biggest "moderate" rebel strongholds, even warren announced a month or so ago that the ceasefire in aleppo is unstable because there is a high presence of al nusra there). They didn't ally with ISIS for a long time, they only have ceasefires in some areas. Some months ago they attacked the aleppo supply line in khanasser at the sime time though, that probably indicates that some sort of cooperation took place.
>>78833465
Considering that i spent 3 years of my childhood in Syria, 1 year in Tartous surrounded by alawites, i think that i am correct in saying that alawites fast during Ramadan.
>>78833660
Im not talking about war you cockroach
>>78833781
>>78834188
>Jaish al Islam and Ahrar ar Sham
They aren't part of FSA
>C.I.A. Arms for Syrian Rebels Supplied Black Market, Officials Say
>Weapons shipped into Jordan by the Central Intelligence Agency and Saudi Arabia intended for Syrian rebels have been systematically stolen by Jordanian intelligence operatives and sold to arms merchants on the black market, according to American and Jordanian officials.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/27/world/middleeast/cia-arms-for-syrian-rebels-supplied-black-market-officials-say.html?_r=0
>>78833957
>>78833957
The same picture in pic related... Megumin.
>>78834327
really? thought they were
>>78834191
As the jew said before they might celebrate Ramadan, but aren't required to."Alawites are not that different in belief, just their execution of islam is not radical and very tolerant" on the other hand is total nonsense.
>>78834241
Yes, you are white tengrist turkics from Siberia
>>78834429
lel
>The training program, which in 2013 began directly arming the rebels under the code name Timber Sycamore, is run by the C.I.A. and several Arab intelligence services and aimed at building up forces opposing President Bashar al-Assad of Syria. The United States and Saudi Arabia are the biggest contributors, with the Saudis contributing both weapons and large sums of money, and with C.I.A. paramilitary operatives taking the lead in training the rebels to use Kalashnikovs, mortars, antitank guided missiles and other weapons.
>m-m-muh "Syrian" resistance
>>78834327
>>78834701
>he believes the FSA meme
it's a dead organization, senpai
>>78833957
where is gunshutta when you need him, he could make a /sg/ thread in there
>>78805013
Assad channels posting some fresh pictures, and i made use of that.
Somebody, please for the next /sg/ ?
Can someone tell me why the SE Hama offensive is so important? It looks like they are fighting for something with no value. The fighting is not even close to the road.
>>78834747
pfffffffff :DDDD get lost
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l67mnbPlfMY
how bad is syrian winter?
Where are the snipers? sheesh
>>78832219
>Syria did not have any conflicts under his rule
>what is operation orchard, what is the second Lebanon war
MIDF defected.
>>78835469
about here bro
>>78833393
>angle less than 45°
That's not a daesh finger. He's just telling a story.
>>78835699
>>78835469
We got them in our sights, dont worry!
>>78835469
Not close enough, SAA pushed the line far away from Maraj al Sultan.
>>78835469
dubs I'm going to assassinate assad
>>78836004
Looks like its the Helicopter base at Maraj Al Sultan, yes
>>78836103
nice try arab! now go back and walk the goats
>>78836375
>>78832219
>They are very secular but still religious (they fast in ramadan and read quran).
When you say "they", are you referring to the Alawites or to the Syrian population?
>they are islamist jihadists at this point
Why have they radicalized? I've read that the FSA started as dissidents/deserters from the Syrian Army.
>The FSA had heaps of support from the US and the west, although the US played a more logistical role
Where can I read more about this?
>because ISIS is a splinter of the FSA at this point.
I have always thought ISIS as being much bigger than the FSA.
>>78836766
oh shit
>>78835463
Nice picture of Stockholm you got there, Onur
>>78836766
fug XXXXDddddd
>>78836800
Dude, just look at videos and pics from government controlled areas/cities and """"""moderate"""""""" controlled cities, you'll see why almost every honest people support the legimitate government of Syria.
I'm on my wife's pc so I don't have access to my /sg/ folder where I have all kind of evidence about this.
>>78832649
>Well that it did not. Syria wasnt and isnt a democracy in the western sense at all
But were they the most democratic country in the Middle-East? Is this a true statement or are there other countries that are closer to Western democracies? I've heard Turkey is shit.
>it gives one the ability to see that many Syrians still support Assad
Can I get some exact data on this?
>Which other muslims drink wine and so few wear headscarves?
I hear Indonesia thrown around a lot.
>They used to be allies though, some years ago.
What exactly caused the schism?
>>78835624
Im talking about Bashar not Hafez.
The Syrian army itself was never in any large scale battle.
>>78834747
Muslims, just like alawites are not required to by force, just as how Christians aren't required to attend church
>>78836766
>>78833766
>The country is called the arab version of swiss for a reason.
Can you tell me more about Oman?
>why build something like that if you have real chemical weapons munitions in storage?
Where can I find information about their actual chemical arsenal? I know using them is a war crime, but wouldn't having them in first place be a war crime too?
>https://www.voltairenet.org/IMG/pdf/possible-implications-of-bad-intelligence.pdf
Yes, that's exactly the one I had in mind. Thanks.
>>78834188
Would you say the FSA and ISIS are not that different from each other, at least not different enough to not accept occasional/opportunity alliances?
>>78837704
>>78837191
>Trying to find moderates rebels in Syria like
>>78837258
What are the most glaring examples? What should I type up on Google?
>>78836800
Sometimes I wonder how many defections were genuine
https://www.rt.com/news/syria-ambassador-qatar-defection-421/
Ive also read an article that said for example al-Jazeera greatly exaggerated the amount of defections (see also the al-Jazeera&Google project to "map defections to encourage the opposition", clearly they WANTED more defections, see https://www.rt.com/op-edge/337269-clinton-google-aljazeera-assad-plot/ & Google for other sources)
>>78837440
>Can I get some exact data on this?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syrian_presidential_election,_2014
Most critics focused on the fact that the elections were held amidst a war going on. Which is kinda funny, if there WOULDNT be elections they would bitch too, Im sure.
The fact that there was only one other candidate while many more people applied, is where you can see the Ba'ath party being retardedly selective and there you see that Syria is no true democracy. However the point stands: this election DOES prove that is supported in the areas that could vote (which are the vast majority of the Syrian population)
Once again: Western politicians are retarded for encouraging allies of Al Qaeda over babysteps (but steps nonetheless) towards more democracy by a non-radical government
>>78837960
Take this one
Hooray for the democratic freedom fighters of al Qaeda and their Sharia semi-caliphate..
>>78838401
Much better than le ebil regime
>>78837655
>Where can I find information about their actual chemical arsenal?
I doubt you can find it anywhere, this isn't exactly open to the public. Like any other nation with chemical weapons they had specialized and professional warheads and means to deliver them though.
>but wouldn't having them in first place be a war crime too?
No, you're allowed to have them. There is the CWC treaty, but most countries don't give a shit even though they signed and it's not enforcable. Meaning syria was allowed to have chemical weapons, but not to use them. As you probably know their stockpile got destroyed by the russians after the incidents with chemical weapon attacks in syria.
>Would you say the FSA and ISIS are not that different from each other
As is said, FSA is not an homogenous block. There are fractions in there that are not far away from ISIS in terms of their ideology, some others are quite moderate. Yes, some of the fractions cooperate with ISIS to some extend, but since ISIS got so toxic nobody does that openly anymore.
>>78838461
Female protestors in Kafranbel, a Syrian town considered a key place of the "revolution"
>>78838777
>>78838777
how do i know they are females
>>78838777
Pro-Government rally in Damascus
>>78839018
More liberated democratic free secular female protestors in Kafranbel
>>78839075
HEY
atleast the have ninja fighters....
>>78838401
>>78838461
>>78838777
>>78839018
>>78839075
well shit...
>>78838964
Would dressing like that get you a stoning in most parts of the Middle-East?
>>78839018
>>78839075
>>78839018
>>78839075
So what, you're surprised Islamists support the Islamists and Alawites support eh Alawite? It's called sectarian for a reason.
>>78839075
Aaand pro-gov rally in Tartous
>>78839266
Americans are supporting these 9/11 people. happy 9/11 friend
>>78838284
redpill me on al-Jazeera
>Syria is no true democracy.
Before the civil war, was Syria better than the rest of the Middle-East?
>>78837960
Watch this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsHsgAQcGac
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=McMLJr0IbaM
(those qt syrians girls)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXsnd0ja0M0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrGZ-radbvE
Man, watching this shit made me feel sad for all those people killed in this invasion...
>>78839385
Most Americans don't actually, and that's funny coming from a Kuwaiti.
>>78838742
Can you really just take a missile and swap its explosive warhead with a chemical one?
> As you probably know their stockpile got destroyed by the russians after the incidents with chemical weapon attacks in syria.
I've heard Russia just pretended to destroy these, because of Putin and Assad friendship. Where can I find definite proof of their destruction?
>>78839561
>Can you really just take a missile and swap its explosive warhead with a chemical one?
You can if they're compatible, obviously.
>>78839394
Syria has the lowest crime rate. Lowest illitrates and the lowest homeless. The best education and healthcare and culture.
Thanks to USA ruining all of this.
>>78839530
im talking about your government
>>78839561
Missiles are just a delivery system and can have multiple warhead types.
>>78839266
Sectarian...sects... are Sunni, Shia, Alawite
Many Sunni support Assad
Practically no Shia or Alawite support radicals
The opposition is clearly sectarian whereas the government isnt.
When did Assad ever speak badly of Sunnis in general?
Whereas figures like Zahran Alloush clearly advocated "cleansing Damascus of Alawites and Shiites"
Or this FSA commander who defected in 2011:
>Riad al-Asaad has made controversial statements such as suggesting that ethnic cleansing and suicide bombing are "an integral part of revolutionary action, of Free Syrian Army action."
>>78839893
also dont forget that more than 80% of these "Moderate" Cannibals are non syrians.
>>78836800
>I've read that the FSA started as dissidents/deserters from the Syrian Army.
That was at the beginning of the war, many were tricked or bribed to defect. And many have rejoined the SAA after they realized the FSA were full wahhabi.
>>78839561
>Can you really just take a missile and swap its explosive warhead with a chemical one?
If it's designed that way, yes, obviously. Many weapon platforms are modular so that you can use the means of delivery (like a cruise missile, normal unguided short range missile, SRBM, you get it) with differen warheads for multiple scenarios.
>Where can I find definite proof of their destruction?
Nowhere since stuff like this is classified. The US apparently supervised it. They had no problem with it, so there's no reason for us to doubt that the stockpile is destroyed.
Anyways, should Assad use chemical weapons he'd get fucked by NATO quite quick, and russia would drop them too. That's just one of the things that doesn't fly, especially for smaller countries with no means to defend themself except being under the protective umbrella of a superpower.
You fucking hate Syrians. You call them shitskin. You hate their culture, their religion. You dont even want them to live. You are insulting them everytime. You dont even want them to become a tourists in your country. Why the fuck should i trust you want best choice for Syria. No fucking way. You are basically supporting Assad because he is killing much more Syrian than other sides of the civil war. This is why you are supporting Assad. He is destroying Syria and you love ""shitskins"" when they are dying.
>>78840171
>>78840171
>>78839699
>>78839799
I just thought you needed more complex adaptations to a normal missile to make it capable of delivering a chemical.
Like you can't just take a inter-continental nuke missile, remove the nuke at the top and place a manned space capsule. You need to add several other things to the rocket to take these people into space.
DIE BITCH
>>78840287
/pol/ hates radical islamists and tends to love nationalists, such as Assad.
>>78840287
>>78840287
>>78840287
Accurate.
>>78840287
>>78840287
>>78840287
>>78842033
So what do you guys think about the Iraqis recapturing Fallujah from IS?
>>78842536
>>78842667
Well it seems to have gone incredibly fast, kudos to the Iraqi army, the PMU and the Iraqi federal police
I hope now the pathetic western media who were echoing actual ISIS propaganda about "Shia militias terrorizing Fallujah" can shut the fuck up
>>78842536
paint it black
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEVGCJxQisE
>>78840868
>playing cs in 1080x1920
there is LITERALLY nothing more triggering than seeing people do that
>>78842904
Second best Renge vid.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sso4vjERgdA
>>78840119
perfect!
>The Houthi forces, backed by the Yemeni Republican Guard and Saleh units, reportedly captured Brigade 35 Base in the Ta’iz Governorate on Sunday after a grueling week long battle with the Hadi loyalists and Saudi-led Coalition.
>Also known as the “Al-Qasr Camp,” Brigade 35 is located in the southern district of Tai’iz City; it has long been under the control of the Saudi-led Coalition and their allies.
>Brigade 35’s location in Ta’iz makes it an imperative military endeavor for the Houthi forces and Yemen Republican Guard because it opens up the southern district inside the provincial capital.
https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/houthi-forces-capture-brigade-35-base-taiz/
>june 2016
>Saudis can't into war yet
>UAE and other arab nations withdraw from Yemen
>Houthis advancing
How long until Saudi Arabia is defeated in Yemen?
this image has potential
>>78843977
>tfw farmers in sandals BTFO your highly technologically advanced army
>>78844621
original
>>78844975
After Assad's example, other world leaders were seen today also visiting the frontlines of their troops
