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>Raqqah June 20
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DEVELOPMENTS JUNE 21
>ISIS captures Sfaiyeh oilfield south of Tabqa Airbase. Map Update
>Syrian Army launches new assault to liberate Thawrah Oil Fields in west Raqqa
>New Syrian Army seizes Al-Zubeida Point near Iraqi border
>Turkish troops kill 11 Syrians trying to cross border: monitor
>Islamist rebels launch new offensive in Darayya
>US, Russia agree to improve coordination on Syria
>Iraqi Forces rescue 354 Yezidi women in Fallujah
>Iraqi Army captures 4 villages near Fallujah
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>SouthFront June 20
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I'll contribute a little.
Aviadarts photos from Krim 2016
Damn, no one else here yet?
>>78010235
Give them a few minutes, usually more appear then
>>78010285
You do know that you can't bump your own thread until it's been up for fifteen minutes? And then only once every five minutes thereafter, yeah?
>>78010235
is dead i knew. america bro trying to revive this place while im currently at work and less likely to contribute for now.
>>78010336
Notice the different color radomes on the Su-35Ss
Soon we Kurds will claim our own land that was promised to us
BIJI KURDI
>>78010376
I'm aware but it's not my thread too. I just like dumping pictures here.
New Sukhois get put through their paces, 2015.
>>78010467
Not unless you get more unified. The Kurds in Iraq, apart from the PKK, support Barzani, who is pro-Turkey.
>>78010551
Ah, my bad.
>>78010467
Special snowflake mentality is shining through.
Anyway
>>78010591
sup guys
>>78010619
You're good
>>78010685
>>78010578
Fuck Barzani and fuck Assad
We will take our land back from the roaches and from syria, we always lived there always was ours. You just wait we are already growing stronger.
>>78010735
Good early morning buddy
>>78010740
>>78010467
Does that mean you'll finally gtfo our country?
>>78010755
go away kurd. you dont want to be genocided dont you?
sages
>>78010755
Don't really care if you take northern Syria, but if you start anything against Assad while the civil war there is still raging, then you're burning your bridges, especially since Iran is starting to become allies with you.
Barzani was voted in by Kurds and wants a Kurdish state in Iraq.
>>78010824
How do you feel about the whole Kurd issue in Syria? Did the Aleppo soldier say anything about them?
>>78010825
thank god we dumped the syrians in europe and turkey
and we meet again kuwait bro
>>78010895
Genocide Syrian Kurds. traitors to the motherland. we accepted more than 300K Kurds and they backstabbed us.
GENOCIDE KURDS
but Iraqi Kurds are based. not all but some.
>>78010989
welcome man.
>>78011132
how come kuwait isnt accepting any refugees
>>78011217
im not kuwaiti. dont ask me.
>>78011268
oh then what are u ??
>>78011291
Syrian.
>ISIS Regains Full Control Of All The Towns And Villages Which Were Controlled By The Syrian Regime SAA In Tabqa Countryside
SAA dun it again. How could they lose all that progress in a few hours?
>>78011132
I hope you do clear them out. You'll probably be fighting them after the FSA and ISIS be gone.
Last photo for today with a small but interesting observation that I made. A Su-35S (a fighter first and foremost) has been ordained with bomb markings near the canopy. Something that hasn't happened before for the fighter escorts in Syria.
>>78011350
ah hello there neighbor, i thought u were kuwaiti
>>78011404
I suggest they left the area completly and it happened right after Shoigu arrival to Syria.
Bumping this motherfuckin tread.
Jordanian border outpost got attacked by VBIED, 6 killed and 14 wounded
>>78011445
im syrian. with syrian/turkish heritage from dad side. and jordanian/lebenese heritage from mom side.
Kuwait does not give nationality and your nationality will be as your father's nationality
>>78011404
They pulled back because of poor weather making the area untenable. They avoided either stalemate or defeat by doing so.
>>78011132
Dats a bit racist senpai
We Kurds are based, all /pol/ loves us cause we BTFO roaches everyday
I dont want to fight Assad but he probably will appose taking ap arty of Syria so he is our enemy as well
>>78011646
ah cool, im lebanese and german
>>78011707
if they try anything that bold Turkey will attack them along with SAA
>>78011707
>racist
>>>/oven/
>>78011646
Cant call it a pullback when they left stuff behind, more like a retreat. Such a complete waste of time when they are now back to where they started.
>SAA going after Raqqah for no real reason
>>78011952
What did the left behind? I saw them capturing stuff and plenty of confirmed Isis kills. Didnt saw them abandoning a thing.
This video for example. Dates June the 20.
Can also post recent Isis from guro Raqqa as a proof.
>>78012218
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYQQKlEsHkA
Forgot to post the video itself kek
>>78011956
>Capital of Islamic State
>no reason
>>78012218
recent Isis guro*
I guess i shouldn't try to do few things at the same time.
>>78011956
Just compare the SDF manbij offensive to SAA raqqah offensive. Its like fucking night and day, such incompetence from the SAA. Not to mention, the SAA traded southern Aleppo for this offensive and now they are left with nothing
>>78012325
>losing ground in Aleppo
>hurr gotta win the race to Raqqah
come on now, it's fucking stupid
Last two digits predict how long before ISIS attacks your city
>>78012669
>69
>Saponkov(Journalist in Raqqa) writes that IS counteroffensive pushed to within 2km of SyAA artillery positions, BM-21s started direct fires
>He also says ISIS pushed SyAA back 10km during their counteroffensive
https://twitter.com/bm21_grad/status/745047228536987649
vk com /
roman_saponkov?w=wall216034_1466%2Fall
>>78012669
minutes? hours? days?
>>78012341
The SDF offensive has largely stalled out too and it was spearheaded by US Special Force teams to be completely fair. I think only one Polite Person is known to take part in the Tabqa offensive too.
The SAA also had a very successful offensive resulting in the capture of Palmyra. But that was also spearheaded by Russian Special Forces. All in all, we can see that any offensive that was supposedly conducted by a Middle Eastern army are all farces.
>>78011132
https://youtu.be/2Kx0unQChq4
Is this why a Syrian flag is being raised at the helm of this procession and Syrian national anthem is being played before the parastos?
Don't get me wrong,I have no idea why are we so pro kurdish all of a sudden and rooting for ypg to take manbij and so on,but these guys really seem to get that clashing with Syrian goverment is not in their best interest.
As long as SAA controls Deir Ezzor and Qamislo,they have their presence in the northeast.
Russia really needs to step up the carpet bimbing,IRGC is simply cannon fodder,they couldn't even defend Al Eis and it all went downhill from there.
Also,hoholmaps pisses me off to heavens and beyond with their instant update of Al Amaq claims but waiting to register our gains for days.
>>78012770
days
Cluster bombs.
>>78012397
SAA needs to pick up their game. they've not been doing too well recently.
>>78012669
Allah akbar
>>78012835
>All in all, we can see that any offensive that was supposedly conducted by a Middle Eastern army are all farces.
This. It's two retards hitting each other with wiffle bats.
>>78013098
i do think SAA is trying to make the enemy go out of their nest.
>>78013098
Hey Minnesota.
>Was discussing Syria with an arab guy in the gym. (saw me reading a book on Radical islam).
>He agreed with the /sg/ hivemind view.
>he mentions Yemen, I have no idea what's going on.
Can someone fill me in?
>>78013392
I don't know about recently, but basically it's the local shi'ites against Al-Qaeda and the Saudi coalition
>>78013392
read the wordpress. everything you want to know is available in the must watch video or must read documents tabs of the website.
this isn't stuff you can just lean in a couple minutes. whole situation is really complicated
I was hoping Al-Tabqah would be taken by the weekend but with the surprise buttrape out of fucking nowhere in the Tabqa countryside all hopes have diminished.
Yes yes well done SAA, well done SAA!
HOWEVER
I award 50km to Isis
SAA and Kurds are hilariously ineffective without air support. One has to wonder just how fucked they would be if the U.S. and Russia didn't get directly involved.
Hello gents, long time no see.
Isn't ISIS counterattacking the SAA to the south of Raqqah leaving the northern section of the area undefended from the SDF/Kurds?
>>78013931
How's it going?
>>78014066
SDF is focused on Manbij, they've stopped their offensive on Raqqah
>>78013392
>Revolt against Yemen ruler occurs
>Ruler run's away from the country and hides ( i dont remember either in Egypt or Saudi Arabia)
>Westerners say that "Even tho he got rekt and ran away he is stil the ruler" and a anti Hoothi (the rebels i mentioned before) coaliton occurs.
Want to mention that at this point Hoothis gained russian sympathies since after president of Ukraine ran from the country away from the maidan rebels, america said "He ran, so he is no longer president"
>Western backed arab coaliton are starting to bomb Hoothis (that are pretty much had control of the country)
>Saudis launch a land invasion to Yemen (which gave us the insane amount of lulz, since they are incredibly incompetent)
Just a russian point of view, some muslim can probably tell you more.
al nimr is absent recently. something happened? or something is being planned?
>>78012835
I can't think of any offensive since the war began that was successfully done by only government forces. They always had outside help when they won.
>Russian state television accidentally broadcasts evidence that Moscow uses cluster bombs in Syria
https://meduza.io/en/news/2016/06/20/russian-state-television-accidentally-broadcasts-evidence-that-moscow-uses-cluster-bombs-in-syria
kek
Any news about the sandstorm? Is it possible to sustain combat during this kind of meteorological event? How does it affects the fighting conditions?
>>78014942
Are you trying to jew me again?
We never signed that convention, so we cant violate what we never signed.
>>78014678
That goes just as much for non state actors as well. I cannot buy for a second that ISIS was able to capture all that territory back two years ago without any support from a something less than a military superpower (US). The logistics alone of getting some many fighters and equipment there to overwhelm everyone else would have been way too tremendous even for the Saudis and the Turks working together. And the ISIS battle strategy was flawless, something we all know that is impossible for a Middle Eastern army.
Some people go ahead and dismiss me as a conspiracy nut (which I am firmly not) but then again, people who believed that Arab Spring was orchestrated by the US were also regarded as insane until recently.
>>78015419
ISIS has a ton of foreigners in it to begin with. So they were able to get over the Arab incompetence factor.
>>78014074
Not bad mate, fuckin summer heat assraping me, apart from that its okay.
>>78014153
Manbij is surrounded and at this point is just a matter of time. They're like 20km away from Raqqah and it's most likely undefended since ISIS is moving south to push back the SAA. Strategically it's an opportune time to drop down and snatch the city, even if ISIS falling back forces them to withdraw they can capture tons of supplies and rescue thousands upon thousands of civilians while also crushing ISIS morale.
Maybe they don't want to have ISIS' attention? That's the only conclusion I can reach, trying to take such a significant city will make them focus their forces on that faction, evidently enough to push back the SAA when they attempted to encroach on their capital.
>>78015037
I think it's possible to fight when you have proper optics like thermal vision or something or at least googles, but only very few elite and/or foreign elements have that in large enough quantities to make any sort of offensive operation. Maybe cells of US or Russian special forces can continue operating covertly but otherwise no. Aircraft are down too because sand can really fuck up the internal mechanics of the engines and also abrade the surface really bad.
>>78014427
Zalame, i honestly think he is fake, like the dude looks completely different from OG Nimr
>>78015364
Oh I know, we didn't sign it either. it's just amusing to see them try to deny it. it's silly. Saudi isn't denying theyr'e using it in Yemen for example.
>>78015719
He's a wax figure but still real.
>>78015719
dont be a retard and come with these dumbass Reddit memes
Do you have a comment on the ‘confrontation’ between US F/A-18 planes who flew out and told some Russian SU-34 planes to stop bombing the ‘good’ rebels.
Apparently the SU-34’s stopped bombing then the FA-18’s said “Hey we have to go get some gas, BRB” Then the SU-34’s said, “Da! OK guys!”
And then the SU-34’s went back and re-bombed the ‘good’ rebels again.
>>78017197
Looks like a total circus to me 2bh
>US planes are moving above dozens of our anti air engines to have a "chat with SU pilots"
>They tell them to stop bombing after they already dropped everysingle bomb they had
>USA is SURPRISED that Russia is attacking rebels
>America is SHOCKED that russian pilots didnt listen to them.
Dont even know what line is the funniest.
>>78017486
>USA is SURPRISED that Russia is attacking rebels outside of any ceasefire zone
while at it
>>78018058
The USA is SURPRISED by everything Russia does that isn't sucking their cock.
>>78009945
>That picture
Let's get some classic memes in this bitch
>>78018837
>>78019569
>File: TWaI1.jpg (168 KB, 1024x768)
Would.
>>78011707
You are backstabbers and no more.
>>78011707
>We Kurds are based,
Kurds are now a meme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odq8Y4zTuEs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmLguzeg3eo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Ny0m349g70
>>78015419
The baath party generals were the ones coordinating those offensives. Even if they were arabs they were the elite.
>>78020424
those videos are satire
When will the Kurds launch another offensive in Iraq, It has been quiet on their front. The Iraqi Army is doing the Falluhjah offensive and are pushing up a bit near Baij.But nothing from the Kurds since the last months
>>78021198
> Ayn el jahesh
lol
I am seriously getting mad at the saa and iran lately. Just stick to the fucking plan and take aleppo. You prepared everything for it. Stop chasing a ghost in the desert, you cannot control the streets until you reach tabqa anyway.
I just had an autistic idea.
Imagine a Total War mod set during the Syrian Civil War where everything is the same except set in a medieval fantasy setting.
>Assadist Syria is a Byzantinish republic with arab influences, uses some Assyrian styled units and cataphracts in addition to formations of mail armored infantry with short swords
>"Free" Syria is much more arab in taste, many of their soldiers being former Assadists but with less armor and increased mobility. Greater focus on archers, light cavalry, and foreign units.
>Al Qaeda and ISIS have full blown arabic units, clad in loosely fit black cloaks with fast moving cavalry units with noticeably poor infantry, causing them to rely on mercenaries
>Iraqi army is partially westernized with heavily armored knight/roman units, mixed with foreigners and light arab militias
>Iranian units are based upon Seleucids and Sassanids with an vague arab taste
>Turkish units are obviously based on the Ottomans with noticeably better capability than Syrians and Iraqis
>Russian units are slavic warriors with a mongol influence which are stronger than Turkish units
>Western units are based on crusaders which are slightly stronger than Russian units
I know its autistic but it sounds interesting to think of.
>>78022762
I think I'd prefer a Combat Mission game set in the present.
>all that shitty gear
>magical boxes on tanks
>unit quality is shit, so good tactics and fire support are extremely essential
>A vast array of outdated Soviet and US gear
>poor as fuck artillery support, inaccurate, slow
>russian airstrikes for the SAA faction
>VBIEDs for the Islamists
Fuck me, I'd love that game.
when you and yo' boys are fashionably late for an isis birthday
>>78022956
>onur when he's not invited
>>78022956
>>78022762
I heard Russia was making a Syrian war game where you control units.
It is a indie game where you donate stuff, a kickstarter. It would be preddy great.
Also,
A drone game, where you fly a drone and bomb terrorists. Like in COD4 and others as well. But then a whole game based on Syria and Iraq, and 10% of the profit goes to some charity for warvitims or something like that.
Can we MEME it?
PRAISE KEK THE ALMIGHTY
>>78015037
Sandstorms are overrated. It's not like in the movies where you cannot see shit and they usually only lasts a day. Think snowstorm or heavy rain.
I would guess they won't attack during the sandstorm.
>>78023391
I want to control a meme tank.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uran-9
>>78010755
>>78010755
>we always lived there always was ours.
pffftahahahaha you guys are just mixed iranian nomads, those lands were never kurdish
especially in anatolia, there wasn't a kurdish presence when the seljuk turks entered, the kurds came in with the seljuk migrations
>>78023499
I understand, anon.
>>78021941
They don't care for fighting ISIS past their (((perceived))) borders, they're pussies they ran away when ISIS first came and all the only large settlement they've taken is Sinjar a tiny town, everything else has been desert and villages.
>Al Qaida in Yemen disguise as women to escape arrest
http://gulfnews.com/news/gulf/yemen/al-qaida-in-yemen-disguise-as-women-to-escape-arrest-1.1849853
topkek
A couple more picture in the link
>>78025101
0/10 would not even pass as bisexual
>>78015037
It's possible to fight and optimal for ISIS and the FSA because "lmao no airsupport because 50ft of dirt"
>>78025101
Onur would disuse as a woman even without the threat of arrest
>>78022762
Give this idea to DICE, they'll be all over it. Fucking ww1 without France and Russia, that's some fucking fantasy, faggots.
>>78023391
>Russia was making a Syrian war game
where i can see it. I hope it's not something like they did about 2008's Georgia.
>>78026382
Didn't Russia use ARMA for training at some point or am I thinking of a different country?
>Jaish Islam storming government troops in East Ghouta
https://www.jaishalislam.com/subject/440
>Raqqah road after ISIS recaptured it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bu8oJGG3tjQ
Holy fuck, SAA lost all those gains in Raqqa province? WHAT.THE.ACTUAL.FUCK
>>78027141
not all, theyre not back at Ithriya
theyre at Abou Alaj
TRANSLATION NEEDED
#ريف_الرقة
بعد معارك عنيفة جداً استمرت لمدة يومين كانت نتيجتها تراجع وحدات الجيش السوري والقوات الرديقة عن بعض المواقع التي حررتها خلال الفترة الماضية
الجيش السوري لازال يسيطر على مناطق بعمق ١٥ كم داخل الحدود الادارية لمحافظة الرقة
المنطقة بشكل عام تشهد هدوءاً منذ مساء الامس ..
خلافاً لما ذكرته مواقع العدو .. أؤكد ان عمليات يوم امس تحديداً لم يرتقي فيها اي شهيد .. الانسحاب كان مدروساً وبأقل الاضرار الممكنة بالأرواح والعتاد.
العملية باتجاه الطبقة مستمرة .. ستأخذ ابعاداً جديدة بعد ماجرى خلال اليومين الماضيين ..
المجد للشهداء .. النصر لسوريا.
TRANSLATION NEEDED
>>78027141
i think saa has lost all their morale senpai, 5 years of war with no end in sight tends to do that
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DROf4WBYDCA
>>78027141
they're being retarded. should have done this
SAA is trying to advance from one axis, and it's clearly not working. the commanders of SAA all need to be fired and replaced
>>78027372
It was salient in desert anyway, i honestly still don't know why they didn't focus on Southern Aleppo.
>>78027528
SDF could teach them a thing or two. They'll take manbij, al-bab and raqqa before the SAA reach al-tabqah at this rate.
>>78027496
Did you see that svbied on SAA? Numerous rifles, tank machine guns and cannon, 23mm autocannon, over flat ground AND SVBIED STILL FUCKIN HIT THEM.
>>78027732
I think biggest weapon of SDF is that they know their limit and don't overextend. Notice how they circled Manbij instead of just making dick salient like SAA did toward Tabqa.
>>78027528
Fighting in the North of Al Jaboul would be hard and slow and the units in the Aleppo region certainly are not capable of that. In the South they have the massive advantage of firepower and Russian air support, which can far easier target the opposition in the desert. They are not even part of the same army corps. 3rd has Aleppo and the North, whilst I believe the Southern ones belong to the 1st corps.
I doubt the SAA could have advanced in the North.
>>78027528
Honestly just take crossroads and starve them out from the north
>>78028339
they did fine ending the siege on Kuweries.
How does the enclave of the SAA at Deir al zor get supplies like food and ammunition?
>>78028344
There's more to it than "just take". The SAA is still ineffective and mostly incompetent. Nevermind, Arabic.
>>78028418
A multi-year process that taxed their forces greatly. They benefit far more from fighting in the desert where ISIS' inferior firepower and inability to use VBIEDS and such less effecitvely plays to their own strengths.
>>78027401
googel translate
# Rev_alrqh
After very heavy fighting lasted for two days was the result fell and Syrian army units and troops Alardiqh for some sites that liberated during the last period
Syrian army still controls areas 15 km deep inside the administrative border of the province of Raqqa
The region in general is witnessing quieter since yesterday evening ..
Unlike reported enemy positions .. assure that the operations yesterday, specifically where any Shahid did not rise .. withdrawal was deliberate and with the least possible damage to lives and materiel .
An ongoing process towards the class .. will take new dimensions after what happened during the last two days ..
Glory to the martyrs .. victory to Syria.
>>78028503
Heli drops
>>78028660
Isn't that insanely dangerous? I suppose the danger from small arms and ZU-23 fire is negated if you drop from high up but it seems like it would be really difficult to upkeep. How big is the contingent cut off there? Battalion?
>>78028503
>>78028660
UN drops supplies by plane, too
Occasionally the airfield and its environs are safe enough to land helis.
>>78029032
People do go out and in, btw.
Some Hezbollah troops arrived this month and more elite Hezbollah troops are planned to arrive soon to help with the siege
Issam "Takfiri Terminator" Zahreddine himself is in Tartous this week, pic related
>>78028503
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dy-XAZhoCV0
>>78029277
>>78029875
Thank you, that was something which always confused me.
Deir al zor is held by the 104th Brigade of the Republican Guard, I guess that explains why they've held out so long, they're some of the best soldiers in Syria.
>>78030662
>kentucky
that's pretty rare on /sg/
>>78030831
We Kentuckians like justice and nationalism too, ya know.
https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/video-syrian-soldiers-mock-islamic-state-fighters-deir-ezzor/
KEKK
MOTHERFUCKER
Amaq News claims ISIS recaptured Abou Allaj
If its true, then the SAA & friends actually DID get kicked out of Raqqa province
>>78009945
>PERMA MAPS
>Live hohol with ticker
>http://mideast.liveuamap.com/
Can we stop linking this shit to each general? It's full of ISIS faggots and 'moderate' rebel sympathizers who'll post bullshit anytime they can or post an event with a bias PoV.
>>78032244
Isn't that the first village they took within the province? That's resetting everything they've accomplished in this offensive, ISIS has to be overextending to present enough forces to pull that off. Did they just redirect forces that were supposed to relieve Manbij once it got surrounded and direct them south?
>>78032244
Amaq is pulling shit out of its ass lately, take it with a grain of salt, especially when news is slow out of the SAA
Is Bashar's son going to join the Republican Guard when he comes of age?
>>78032845
Makes sense. I never use it, either.
>>78032853
>redirect forces that were supposed to relieve Manbij
I dont think so, those seem to be coming from al-Bab and northern Aleppo. I think they took the Tabqah offensive very seriously, and well they should. Its much more threatening to ISIS' existence than Manbij is. see >>77945020
>>78032967
>Amaq News
> pulling shit out of its ass lately
>lately
Thats andIsis media, their usual twites are
"All kufars are dead alahu akbar brothers"
"One VBIED killed 3000 kufars. Takbir Azubibilya"
>>78033479
an Isis*
Yesterday's map for /sg/, better late then never
>>78033479
Youre good at mimicing ISIS, the Republican Guard is too, see >>78032092
Is weed haram?
i was thinkin of pickin up some lebanese blonde before rollin into syria on my tank
>>78032845
It's good to be aware of each point of view. It's user friendly too.
>>78033479
Can you translate this
vk com /
roman_saponkov?w=wall216034_1466%2Fall
>>78010755
Good luck taking it from the actual Syrians, your only hope is to ally with Assad.
>>78033388
I guess ISIS still has some fight left in them. Maybe this will convince the SAA to focus on consolidating ground from the "moderates" and let the Kurds fight the evidently capable ISIS units.
>SAA focuses on Aleppo and Damascus
>ISIS lets off pressure on them to focus on reversing Kurdish gains to the north
>after SAA consolidates their main cities, they launch new offensives at ISIS while they're already focused on a conflict
>Kurds weakened, ISIS weakened, win-win for SAA
ISIS is fizzling out anyway, it's better to let them direct what's left of their forces at the enemy, especially while opposition forces are making gains in your major cities.
>>78033388
So the tigers are in northern aleppo and didn't capitalize on is pulling massive numbers of troops from the front?
whats wrong with the saa?
>>78034443
This, Rebels first, then ISIS
A two front war is impossible to ifght for the far stretched SAA.
Also, ISIS is too strong as for now. If the Kurds manage to link up the two pockets, ISIS will be weakended. Then the SAA can advance. By the time this is done ( the link up) ISIS will have suffered defeats in Iraq as well.
>>78034077
"Yesterday we advanced 10-13 to Tabqa but at todays morning Isis and a counterattack and pushed us 10km back to Tabqa-deir zor crossroads (dont mix it up with resafa)."
Saw that report before i doubt that guy's info 2bh.
>>78034761
Isis did a counterattack*
>>78034761
Why doubt him? I read he is a reporter from the frontline
>>78034761
Well imagine this 50 km as plain desert and small groups of vehicles driving innone direction, meeting resistance and pulling back. The opponents follow with their own vehicles, meet resistsnce, turnnback. Rinse and repeat.
syria is no real war. Reminds me of the spanish civil war, far too few soldiers incolved to estsblish broad control. In the end it will need just as back then the great powers to move in.
>>78033910
>It's good to be aware of each point of view. It's user friendly too.
That's not the point of those maps. They're suppose to show updates of the battlefield, not politically charged comments. It also will instantly update the maps for ISIS and rebel factions gaining ground yet will take days upon days for gains for SAA.
Yeah, it's bullshit. Go to militarymaps.info instead.
HAHAHAHAHAHAJA
>>78034761
>>78035006
well it seems like oudated info at this point.
All sources seem to agree SAA, Suqur & co. lost Sfaiyeh
>>78033580
thank you.
good work.
>>78035006
Because you cant even imagine how many bloggers storytellers that are "fighting in Syria" we have.
I do not exclude the chance that this one is solid but i have my doubts.
Did you light a candle for our lost heroes?
>>78035187
>Truck covered in metal
>wheels are completely exposed
haha. ISIS is fucking stupid
>>78035542
That's a SAA truck dumbass
>>78034617
The SAA want to get to Raqqah before the Kurds because it's a focal point of maintaining rightful hegemony over northeastern Syria, however they don't realize ISIS is defending it like hell anyway so Raqqah isn't in any real danger of going to the Kurds in the first place. If the SAA don't put pressure on ISIS, they won't send their forces their way. Even if they ignore ISIS entirely, they'll probably focus on the Kurds(which is preferable since the Kurds have direct Western backing and support) which would give them air to breathe and consolidate. ISIS can't actually win against the Kurds I don't think but they'd sure as hell try and it's better if your two enemies are throwing everything they've got at each other as you get stronger and get more control of the situation than committing strategic suicide.
>>78033580
>>78035438
@CnMedia_Sy now claims on Twitter that Bahariyah was taken by SAA (if Google Translate is getting it right)
>>78035542
That's from the government troops
>>78035657
ISIS are the ones who are notorious for making those armored trucks.
>ISIS truck gets destroyed
>take pictures of it and lie about it being SAA truck
ISIS news does this shit all the time
>>78035822
>#JaishIslam regain al-Bahariyah hill in East Ghouta after clashes with #SAA
https://twitter.com/sayed_ridha/status/745185419642306560
>>78035918
If government forces captured one I don't see why they wouldn't use it. However I don't think the government specifically would make them though.
What once were two SyAA T-72M1s, Thawrah oilfield, Raqqa.
Fucking incompantance lol
>>78036044
>However I don't think the government specifically would make them though.
of course not. It's a destroyed ISIS truck. And Amaq "News" is ISIS's state media.
Who else but Onur and the swiss fag to drink the ISIS propaganda.?
>>78036041
Thats from 6 hours ago
>>78035006
Wanna add, that sometimes they are telling bullshit because of their lack of knowledge (even tho they are really in Syria)
Litteraly today we had a Hmeimim soldier in russian /b.
He was saying that "We are sometimes launching s300 at Hmeimim" Some anons that are somewhat aware of what s300 is said that "we are not doing test s300 launches in Syria and we never had a battle launch in Syria so far."
Later soldier said that he probably "Mixed up s300 with the "Tochka U"
>>78035918
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwVZgifJ690
1:26 in the background and at 4:39
>>78036155
I feel like there's a Russian version of you that makes edgy shitposts on a Ukrainian 4chan about holodomor as you listen to black metal to block out your drunken divorced parents fighting again.
New South Front
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3c0SbtylYc
>>78036940
Disgusting.
Brutal.
Watch the bodies of the Assad militia forces at the Albahrya Frontline in eastern Ghota. Fierce Fighting continues.
https://www.jaishalislam.com/subject/439
>>78036940
Onur watches pony shit to escape his parent's fighting
>>78037604
Lol stop calling me onur
>Battles for Syria | June 19th 2016 | Eastern Front [Eng subs]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=faPdTOvZmJI
>Battles for Syria | June 19th 2016 | Damascus
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTAH2rrrwX8
>>78037198
4u
>Kurdish PKK in action | June 16th 2016 | Turkey
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-T-uRMN4WhA
I wonder where they got these weapons from :^)
>>78037576
haha. watch the terrorists put the guns over their heads and shoot. nice aiming
this is why rebels have been loosing so much territory in east ghouta
>>78036703
Russia, please send 10,000 troops to Syria and clean up this fucking mess. Just blitzkrieg towards the last supply corridor at the Eastern Turkish border and cut off all supplies coming in to the rebels. One Russian soldier is worth 10+ Arab/Muslim soldiers. You can win this instantly. It needs to be done soon, SAA is too retarded to carry anything out.
>>78038028
Looooool fucking bullshit they bombed empty field in north iraq not even turkey
>>78037928
What do you want to be called: "most loyal jannisary of roach cock madame Otto"?
>>78038450
lmao they are literally farmers they don't even wear shoes and they btfo roaches so much. Two trucks destroyed right there
>>78035918
>>78036044
>>78036582
>>78036874
But in this case they're right
>>78038479
turks would be on the same side as the jews
>>78038424
>send 10,000 troops to Syria and clean up this fucking mess
In that case proper reward would be the total annexation of Syria and its transformation into "Russian arab oblast."
Jokes aside i am hoping we will strengthen the support.
>>78009945
>Road to Raqqa was a mistake
>and I knew it
Why on earth would they open a new front when they are unable to even push the Aleppo front? I totally didn't get this, and looks like I was right.
>>78038648
I stand corrected. Arab armies, everybody. literally clueless
>>78038601
Turkish army doesnt use that shit trucks.
This is urban Guerrilla warfare and they are hiding in mountains
Remember vietnam btfo americafats
>>78038424
The whole conflict is just so dragged out and tiresome that the armies participating are drained of any sort of real organization and capability. I'm not surprised the SAA has reached the point where they fuck up basic attacks, it's to be expected after everything they've gone through.
>>78038648
To be expected really. There's not really a reason not to armor your technicals especially considering all of your enemies are doing it.
>>78038718
They hate each other but Syria is a common enemy of both so they work together in this case.
>>78038756
>Jokes aside i am hoping we will strengthen the support.
My only fear is that my government (See: Democrats and Neo-cons) will then supply as many modern weapons to the 'rebels' as possible trying to create a scenario Afghanistan in the 1980's despite the fact that that will create the same fucking conflict allowed Al-Qaeda to flourish and take down two of our towers and got us to spend a trillion dollars in war.
kek
SANA:
>al Nusra
command center and two positions for terrorists of Jabhat al-Nusra organization at the northern Tal Esh-Hayeb
Masdar:
>ISIS
their forces destroyed the Islamic State’s headquarters inside the hilltop village of Tal Ishihayb
Actual map control:
>ISIS, with SAA nearby
Ishihayb/Ushayhib/Esh-Hayeb
>>78039251
Weapons at this point can probably only go to the Kurds. "White helmets" aside, a lot of us are waking up to the fact that what we used to call the FSA is literally Al Qaeda rebranded for the sake of a proxy war.
The election is coming close and Obama can't risk his support tanking by sparking another terrorist supplying controversy since he is supposed to usher in Hillary who our shitty establishment has built up to be his successor. If Hillary wins the election we'll probably invade Assad's territory and ISIS' and balkanize the place in accordance with Israel's wishes. Trump will probably work with Russia to defeat ISIS and bring stability back to the area, build refugee camps and resettlement opportunities or something. At least I hope so, Trump is probably the best option in regards with Syria but I don't think we're going to do anything until whichever president takes office, so until then Russia could send in forces to shape the conflict as they please if they see it fit.
ISIS on jeeps beats Assadists tanks in open Raqqa desert despite Russian air support
Lol
>>78040419
PKK weapons are even more ancient than Isis weapons and you stil cant beat them for years because
"Hur dur they are in the mountains and turks are afraid of the mountains"
>>78040573
>m'lady
>>78035162
All of the available maps have their own political standing. That's inevitable until we get direct access to SAA/Russian/ISIS intel. And if it makes you feel any better, I do use them all. Truth is always buried in bullshit.
>>78040005
So when is the deadline where Hillary and her cronies get to really start implementing their ideas?
December?
>>78040634
Turkey is still soverign country unlike Syria.
Assadist has 1/3 Syria.
40 years yes and where is k*rdistan?
>>78040715
I'm skeptical that she can even win. She's a horribly flawed candidate.
The inauguration occurs in late January, so February I'd assume it all begins regardless of who wins.
>>78040988
Do Turks just generally support chaos of any kind in Syria since it makes your former colony weaker and less competitive?
>>78041065
>She's a horribly flawed candidate.
Well that goes without saying, but Im afraid your (and heck, even our) general public will be swayed to her side.
Why isnt Trump utilizing the massive amount of incriminating stuff against her more?
Your politics usually seem to involve a lot of dirt-throwing, so might as well?
fuck this gay earth
>>78039006
>The whole conflict is just so dragged out and tiresome that the armies participating are drained of any sort of real organization and capability.
You're giving too much credit to them. If they truly organized and capable at some point in time, then this war would have been over long ago.
Also MANY wars dragged on yet extremely capable fighters. World War 2 proved that. The war kept going on yet the USSR and US soldiers became more competent at the end with their experience and the Germans kept their experience.
In this scenario they apparently become more retarded. Trying to bum rush towards Al Tabqah was insane. At the sametime again, Arabs are shitty fighters. Even the Iraq army made the foolish assumption they'll take Al-Fallujah.
>>78041844
I sense negative waves Minisotta
>>78041352
I think he plans on it but the current point in the election is the most boring and noncompetitive. Hillary and Trump both just recently got their nominations and even that won't be official for another month. Plus the debates between the two don't begin until September, so the time between now and then barely matters and I don't think he's going to pull out his massive armory of dirt on her from this early in his campaign.
I feel like you get the feeling that Hillary is doing better because of European media and perception of her, over here she's hated by almost everyone, though so is Trump. General distrust of the government and democratic system over here is at an all time high.
>>78042074
New post by that guy
vk com
roman_saponkov?w=wall216034_1574
What does he say?
>>78042094
>General distrust of the government and democratic system over here is at an all time high.
Makes sense
>the feeling that Hillary is doing better because of European media and perception of her
That seems very believable, yeah
>>78041992
>Even the Iraq army made the foolish assumption they'll take Al-Fallujah.
Iraqi "Army" holds 75% of Fallujah
>>78033580
>>78035438
Minor fix, Bahariyah SAA offensive was only partially repelled, despite jihadist zealots cheering on Twitter that it was totally defeated
>>78041352
>Why isnt Trump utilizing the massive amount of incriminating stuff against her more?
Because Trump is an egotistical moron that is too focused on fracturing the GOP and scaring off very some of his biggest support, most notably Newt fucking Gingrich. Second Gingrich says 'Oh that wasn't a good idea' regarding the judge that Trump went after, Trump then goes on a tangent against Gingrich. He's so fixated on his nomination victory when he should placing 100% of his effort denouncing Hilary. The problem though with Trump is that ego can swell to enormous heights and his foreign policy is really vague and shows he has no understanding of the greater scheme of things. He once even admitted he didn't know who the Kurds were. That's a huge red flag.
Make no mistake, I want Trump to win. He's the only credible candidate who's not controlled by lobbyist on a grand scale. That and the biggest reason being that it will cause a tidal wave of nationalist candidates in the future and show the establishment that their time is over.
>>78041844
HAHAHAHAHA
saa with Russian special forces and the Russian air force cant even fucking advance in the desert on a straight road, U CAN'T MAKE THIS SHIT UP.
Raqqa offensive by saa showed us that Russian air force is nowhere near the USAF
>>78042327
>Iraqi "Army" holds 75% of Fallujah
Yet the cost of taking it was heavy. They attempted to drive in and capture it with little effort and then it proceeded to be bogged down inch by inch with heavy causalities.
>>78042236
"we got kicked from Raqqa, dozens of vbieds attacked our blockposts at the same time, those blockposts had 50-100 men, we barely made it out alive.
Photo is showing us leaving the tabqa-deir er zor crossroads"
>>78042800
it also took the US army weeks to take it, also with heavy casualties. Why the hate?
>>78042655
well there you have it. I hope they cancel this shitty """offensive"""" already and move their troops back to South Aleppo. this is absolutely ridiculous
>New ISIS gains have the Syrian Arab Army expelled from Raqqa province
https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/new-isis-gains-syrian-arab-army-expelled-raqqa-province/ | Al-Masdar News
>>78042781
A stupid roach. Go figure. Russian airforce has done in 6 months way more than US in Syria did for over a year. Not their fault SAA fucking sucks.
>>78042981
whats the rush to south aleppo?
can't the hezbollah deal with moderates?
>>78043041
lol
Syrian government territorial gains just 0.4% since Russian military intervention
>>78043230
apparently not. SAA is getting blown the fuck out in south Aleppo, too
>>78043230
Hezbollah is overextended as is, I think they're deploying to help Deir al zor at the moment to help the seige.
>>78043258
That map doesn't show Palmyra as captured.
>>78041992
Apparently disputes between Russia and Iran/Syria was that Russia demanded SAA to stick to taking aleppo before advancing to Raqqa, but didn't listen. Guess now SAA should listen.
>>78043258
>map form 2015
fuck off roach
>>78043381
okey 0.5%
deal?
>>78043258
>No Latakia
>No Palmyra
Pretty sure even the memebase Kuweiris is stil surrounded at your map.
Anyway "We took the desert, add the 40% percents"
Dont try to look even more retarded than you already are ogul.
>>78043461
it misses lattakia (Salma, Kinsibba), ghouta, kuweires and nubl and zahraa aswell. Aswell as Al-Hadher, Seikh Miskeen, Zabadani, Irthaya and the a part of the ghouta pocket.
>>78043622
If Turkey ever pissed off NATO by killing Kurds would Russia accept them attempting to align with them instead or would they be seen as a rogue state?
>>78043461
SAA has regained Nubbl, Qayartayn, Sheik Miskeen, Palmyra, lots of East Ghouta, Kuweries, most of Latakia,
>tldr: Onur is a faggot
Russian reporter Roman Saponkov saying about "catastrophe" in Raqqa and East to Palmyra. ISIS attacking with many dead SAA soldiers, Raqqa battle group is totally destroyed, some possible trapped in IS pocket
>>78043814
>>78043722
Fucking villages lol
>>78013392
Saudis are BTFO with torcha missiles every month with 100+ casualties. Those numbers are very likely fake but is fun as fuck.
>>78026121
>dat bakelite magazine
>>78043746
>would Russia accept them
Turks - yes
Erdogan and anyone from his political clan - no
Putin was clear about it.
>>78043883
Most of the populated areas are held by the SAA, only Idlib, Aleppo and parts of Daraa remain. Why are you so upset about sand?
>>78042834
Damn hopefully this isn't true
>>78043746
Rogue. Russians are still pissed at Turkey. Erdogan tried to extend an olive branch and Russia told them to go to hell till they apologize and persecute the gunman.
Anyway, being serious for a moment with you guys, surely now you Pooteenists understand what I've realised for years. The Assad State is too weak to win back the country. No ifs, no butts.
Sure, that's not entirely his fault, what with the rebels recieving fresh mercenaries and equipment every day practically.
But it's clear now he has lost to the globalists. Unless dear Pooteey has the balls to deploy ground forces, it's not happening for Assad.
>>78044060
That sand has oil.
SAA has made gains in East Ghouta at least
>inb4 it's all reversed
>Exams taking at university of Damascus
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AADBfGJgCgw
>>78044435
How can these kind of pockets survive so long?
there also a fuckton of tiny isis pockets everywhere why can't they take them?
>>78044186
>>78044021
Figured. The Turkish administration is a bit too jingoistic and defiant of even it's allies. Eventually Erdogan and his similar minded supporters are going to be seen as a nail that needs to be hammered down, and it might be by Russia, or the US, or both when it happens.
The US attempting to prop up Kurdistan while a cast majority of Kurds live within Turkish borders is probably going to causate that souring of relationships toward the end of the war. Putin won't want to deal with them, and neither will NATO.
>>78044695
>ooh look at that how we are democratic country
>meanwhile bomb aleppo kill civilians
>>78044435
>Heavy fighting is still raging in and around al-Bahariyah village in Eastern Ghouta region with the Syrian Army making little but steady advances inside the rebel-held bastion.
>Having succeeded in recapturing the school building and tower yesterday, fierce clashes then erupted as militants fighting for the Saudi-backed Jaish al-Islam managed to infiltrate into the village via a network of tunnels.
>“Apparently, the militants used tunnels to hide themselves when we first stormed the village. Hours later, they jumped up and heavy firefights then broke out whereby we managed to advance northward and control the southern parts of the Cemetry”, a military source told Al-Masdar News reporter in Damascus.
>The village has for long been a contested area and bears a strategic importance as it overlooks several other villages in the region.
https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/syrian-army-steadily-advances-bahariyah-amid-intensifying-battles-2/ | Al-Masdar News
>>78044869
*vast
>>78044921
Assad only bombs terrorists
umad :^)
>>78043836
https://twitter.com/el_temif/status/745120528034213889
"Translated from Russian by Bing
@bm21_grad If you noticed, he wrote: "there is still a sad news, but I will not speak."
"
>>78015037
Yes, it is. There won't be any fancy airstrikes, but people will still be shooting each with AKs.
>>78044921
>>78045144
>>78045034
Guys.... What i said? your memes mean NOTHING
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iu2GUoFn_NA
>>78045214
Child of a terrorists is still terrorist
>>78044740
They been digging underground tunnels for 4 years there, they probably serve as the supply routes for ammo and weapons.
And when it comes to food and medical supplies some "Red crescent" or "UN" are sometimes delivering them the food.
And everytime it happens i look like the picrelated and go "What the fuck are you doing autistic westerners the general idea of the encirclement is to starve them out"
>>78042937
It didn't take weeks to take out Fallujah. That was an insurgency conflict. And I'm not trying to say "US numba one" but rather that Arabs in any conflict have never been good fighters. There are some that excel, but for the most part all of them are abysmal. Just take a look at the Yemen civil war and how Saudi Arabia is so ineffective despite their military being vastly larger. Or take a look at the Six-Day war where Israel BTFO out of multiple Arab nations in just a week.
>>78045214
>MUH CHILDREN
Get lost roach.
>>78045214
>White helmets
fuck off. they probably shelled that building with their plethora of hell cannons
>LE EVIL ASSAD BOMBS HOUSES WITH BARRELS!1!1
>*shells markets with hell cannons and yellow phosphorus*
HAHAHA
TABQA FAIL SAA BTFO
>>78043258
You don't need to take large swaths of land to win a battle. Not saying that SAA has won yet, but usually in war, only 5% of the land is important while the rest is second priority. In this case cutting off the main supply line from Turkey was very crucial and a heavy blow to the rebels. Taking Palmyra blocked ISIS's front in Western Syria and it's slowly decaying their remaining forces there.
>>78045214
>Child geting trained as a terrorist
Look bloody dictator even little kids took arms against you, Alahu akber!
>Child terrorist getting smashed by a barrel bomb
What have you done bloody dictator, dont you have a hearth, azubibilya.
>>78043836
Is this confirmed?
Is the Raqqa force obliterated?
>>78045993
>he uses a proxy yet doesn't even change his name
Jesus you're retarded.
>>78046206
Yes. Raqqah offensive was utter disaster. ISIS pushed them out of the Governorate completely
>>78045993
Did you learn english by shitposting?
>>78046028
>>78045807
Since when protecting the homeland became terrorism?
lol
>>78046206
they probably dont have high casualties, it seems like a controlled retreat
if thats any consolation.
also BAKING.
>>78046383
PKK are just protecting their homeland then ogul
oi WTF Sidorenko's Twitter is gone??????
>>78046630
Why do you always bring PKK to the table ivan?
Chenchens are protecting their homeland against you commie fucks
>>78046855
Kek chechens dont shot our chopers down and dont mine our roads
>>78047015
Soon.
For fucks sake why are Arabs so shit at strategy?
>'Never mind the US, Russia’s the one losing patience over Syria ceasefire chaos' - Chief of Staff
>Jordanian troops killed in bomb attack at Syria border
>Dozens dead as IS expels Syria regime from Raqa province
>Iran official: we lost high-ranking officers in #Syria because of Russia's peace initiatives
>Islamist offensive in Darayya ends in failure
G..guys... what is going on with Ivan? his Twitter account has been removed, and the ISIS offensive killed almost everyone near Raqqa
https://twitter.com/ivansidorenko1
