>you are a terrorist
>you are in the no flight list
>you are in the FBI watch list
>but you can buy a gun
I CAN'T UNDERSTAND, WTF IS THAT SHIT? CONSERVATIVE ARE CARZY?
>yfw lefties blown the fuck out
>>77970402
>you haven't been convicted of a crime nor are you being charged with one
>you don't have your rights stripped away
Why is this so hard to understand for people?
Libfags on the wrong side of history yet again
>>77970402
>what is due process
https://youtu.be/DNDcd1Fe5lg
>>77970402
"No person shall be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law."
---Amendment 5 to the Constitution of the United States
USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA
>>77970576
Go and be a politician, that was a great statement
>>77970402
Woohoo!
SHALL
>>77970931
NOT
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_amendments_to_the_United_States_Constitution
>March 4, 1789
What's wrong with you guys
>>77970996
>>77970992
INFRINGED
>>77970402
>Literally wanting to use secret lists without due process to strip people of their rights
Did you just come out of nazi germany or the USSR? This shit is NOT OK in america. I'd rather see 20 million dead Americans than the right of due process stripped.
wait until january 2017 when hills in the white house, the dems take control of the senate and the house is less red
>>77971029
>hasn't broken any laws
>rules for how to be placed on lists are arbitrarily changed on a whim by unelected officials
No, this was a retarded idea and would have led us down a slippery slope.
>>77970817
I hope that wasn't sarcasm you limey fuck because that's how fucking due process works.
>>77970402
>1 Post by this ID
>>77970402
Shut the fuck up you stupid leaf. It's a fucking leaf for fuck's sake.
"the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed"
Period. End of story.
>>77970328
"When any nation mistrusts its citizens with guns it is sending a clear message. It no longer trusts its citizens because such a government has evil plans."
-George Washington
I'm sorry, Anon. What were you lying?
>>77971172
Seriously, fuck this meme
>>77970402
>put on random "list" with no due process and no way to get off unless have tens of thousands to spare on lawyers.
>WAAAAHHH WHY DON'T YOU WANT TO LIMIT THE RIGHTS OF POOR PEOPLE WAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH
Shut up you fucking leaf in your stupid ivory tower. Why don't you run around in the concrete jungle with us for a while and then see how safe you feel with only your little knife and fists for protection.
>>77971109
It's not even about breaking laws, you have a RIGHT to due process, and stripping away someone's rights without even CHARGING them, let alone convicting them of an violent crime or felony is blatantly unconstitutional
>>77971197
Even the sand niggers Harper?
#nofilter
>>77971107
As much as I love the quote, I have yet to see a good source for that.
Same with >>77971217
There are a lot of made up quotes about the Founding Fathers. Pic unrelated.
>>77971161
No it wasn't sarcastic you fat fuck, it was a brief glimpse of sanity in this crazy Marxist world we live in.
>>77970996
SHALL
>>77971590
>>77970402
>implying contraband works
Let me ask why you think we should surrender our power to the US Government and allow them to rule us for the rest of mankind?
>>77971642
Why not? He passed several background checks, even FBI interviews. No problems until he went shooti.
>>77970402
2nd Amendment is the greatest piece of legislation to have ever existed, Leaf. We used to be just as passionate about our right to bear arms too.
>>77971710
>even FBI interviews
no
>>77970402
FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM EAT SHIT REST OF THE WORLD USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA
>>77971395
Fuck, sorry m8, go have a digestive biscuit. Yeah, fuck this insanity, people don't even understand what our rights are, not just in America but most Western countries. The underlying principles and ideals that our forefathers brought about, the concepts of civil liberty, justice, and rights, have been so eroded that most people don't even have a passing concept of them, let alone any respect for them.
>when you load a 90 round clipazine in your glockteen-15
>>77970402
Omar 'after wife beating today, I'll shoot 50 shades of gay' Mateen
>>77971642
NONE OF THE PROPOSED LAWS WOULD HAVE STOPPED HIM EITHER BUT THEY WOULD HAVE INFRINGED ON THE RIGHTS OF MILLIONS
>>77971338
>Dems vote down republican gun control proposals
>blame republicans for not doing anything
It's not even funny anymore
>>77971765
Huh. Guess it was just interviewing his contacts.
Still, his record was clean apart from suspicions.
>>77971590
Yep, I own 2 ar-15s, an ak-47, various handguns, and 2 shotguns. Guess what? I've shot 0 people.
GOD BLESS THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA
>>77970402
>bill introduced by republican (Cornyn)
>blocked by dems
>>77971642
>>77971590
He was working for a security company and was O.K.'ed. Background checks wouldn't have stopped this. Barring people on watchlists wouldn't have stopped this. What's clear is that the watchlists are largely ineffective and nothing more than a bunch of bureaucratic horseshit, an even further argument, not that it's needed since the constitution is pretty fucking clear about it, that people's rights should not be stripped away by some pencil pushing cuck sitting in an office getting those sweet gov. job benefits.
>mfw democucks get cockblocked once more
if you are a known terrorist and youre on multiple watchlists you cant buy shit if the institutions that have you on the radar do their job, but if they dont then no law will prevent you from getting a gun.
>>77970402
THREAD THEME
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1mlCPMYtPk
>>77972192
>>77972017
USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA
>>77972252
faggot who needs to kill himself
USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA
>>77972017
I only have a Mosin Nagant and a LCR.
Its not much, but I don't intend to be out in the field killing people for food. My only intention is the hide away, and flee north to rural areas if SHTF.
Thinking about getting a M500, thoughts?
>>77972192
it's even funnier because the dems did it to themselves. it's like as soon as they saw some of the bills had due process and that republicans where ok with them they all decided gun control was a bad idea and voted no, then just blamed it all on the gop and nra because they need their boogyman.
>>77972017
I don't know much about guns (yet), but that's a sexy ass rifle on the right.
>>77970402
Why did dems kill one of their own fucking amendments?
>>77972113
worked in intel field
can confirm that watchlists and whatever else, are just useless bureaucratic bullshit. Nobody is ever going to actually act on these well compiled lists.
You know who makes these lists in the first place? People who want their resume to look better. They don't give a shit if someone acts on this stuff, they just want to have their name associated with an excel spreadsheet the president gets to see.
>>77970817
that's a rare pepe
I like it can I have one?
>>77971829
While we still stand there is hope.
Brb buying freedom assault fun
>>77972311
IT'S THE DREAM THAT WE ALL SHARE!
>>77970402
>be on watch list
>buy gun
>get v&
>>77970402
stay up there leaf
you will be enriched soon enough
>op is the faggot who gets gangraped and doesn't report it to protect the poor refugees.
>>77970402
If they would've passed that the government would've just started putting everyone on those list as a way to ban guns without removing the 2nd amendment.
>>77972756
FUCK YEAH!!
>>77972017
How is the Aug? I've been thinking of getting one.
>>77972535
Get a semiautomatic rifle first. Look into a PSA AR, or WASR 10.
>>77973077
It's rad. Doesn't really do anything an AR can't though, and is pretty pricey. That said it performs great, the design is just starting to show its age.
>>77972535
M500? Mossberg?
It's a good gun, consider the 590A1 model if you have the extra money to spare, it's the same, just nicer. Plus, it has a lug to accept M16 bayonets, if you fancy that.
>>77971252
I always love to use the poor people argument against liberals when they propose nonsense like bullet taxes or "gun insurance". Or stupid arguments like "why don't you just move to a safer area?" What so you don't like the idea of poor people having guns? They never have an answer of course.
today has been great so far.
>>77972711
This.
>>77970402
Due process. No one knows how you get on one of those lists and no one knows how you appeal the decision.
>>77970402
2 words
DUE PROCESS
>>77973711
Even if the lists weren't secret, it would still not be okay since you're not actually being charged with let alone convicted of crime which necessitates your rights being stripped awway
>>77970402
because you can't fucking revoke someone's second amendmant rights without trial you fucking retard
quality is a bit shitty, but who cares
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1wLtAXDgqg
>MAH DO PRAH SEX
kys
they knew none of these bills had a chance of passing
thats why the dems even voted against some of them
they just want to the use this to make attack ads for the senate elections "republican senator hick mcgee voted against a law that would keep fag genociders from getting fully automatic death machines used to kill innocent people. paid for by everytown USA"
>>77973903
Get raped, commie.
I KNOW SOMEONE ALREADY POSTED IT, BUT LETS KEEP IT GOING
SHALL
>>77970402
>leaf
sage why do you care about american politics
>>77971027
Why do people constantly bring up "le original date". Current gun law measures have allowed even more gun freedom since even 2015. The internet world is not the same as the real world.
>>77974013
NOT
>>77970402
>This little understanding of what those lists actually are
The problem is that these three letter agencies, with no over sight and no review process can put anyone on any of those lists for no reason. And there's no way to get yourself off if you've been put on one. Until they make it so that there is a way to be removed from the list, an actual review process before someone is put on the list, or at the very least if they actually tell you that you're on and why you're on a list, I might consider supporting something like this.
God Bless These United States of America
Praise Kek
>>77971109
Slippery slope isn't an argument dude.
>>77970402
What is a watch list
What is a no fly list
its so arbitrary, a Commonwealth Cuck would think its a great policy.
>>77971381
Kek.
Picked up 2 AR-15 lowers this morning.
Thinking a "his and hers" build.
>>77974207
Here's one
>It's blatantly unconstitutional
>>77974133
What's crazy is that Feinstein actually sponsored an amendment that would allow the FBI to flag actual known terrorists on the watchlist such that they wouldn't fail a background check. The purpose being that the FBI may not want to alert a terrorist that they are on the watchlist. Feinstein literally wants ACTUAL KNOWN TERRORISTS to be able to still buy guns.
>>77974207
It is when gun grabbers have been proving that nothing is ever enough for then since 1934. Get fucked pinko.
>>77974289
>he don't anwser>>77971381
>>77974207
>ausfag
>>77971383
dat oldschool AR
Kinda hyped that Colt are gonna do repros of the XM-177E2 and M16A1, shame it's gonna be such a small run.
>>77972017
That Cetme
POST THEM COLLECTIONS BOYS
NOT JUST BURGERS, JOIN IN EUROBROS
>>77970402
>tfw
>>77974649
Nice broom handle anon, how much that set you back?
>>77970402
>I CAN'T UNDERSTAND, WTF IS THAT SHIT?
The problem is The Lists themselves which are extremely Despotic in nature. Its quite a poor standard to deny people their Rights on.
-Anyone can be placed on the list for any reason.
-There is no oversight.
-There is no notification that you've been placed on the list.
-There is no way to appeal being placed on the list; thus there is no way to get off the list.
-Government is incompetent and inefficient; thus people will be placed on the list by accident, and can remain there indefinitely as there is no requirement to remove people from the list after a certain amount of time
>>77974649
>Garand
>98k
>Mossberg
>>77974207
fallacy fallacy there
just because something is a logical fallacy doesnt mean it is wrong
politics aren't rational, because they also must follow documents with particular contexts
>>77974756
$400. It needs some work though.
WOOOO NEVER BEEN SO HAPPY FOR MY AMERICAN BRETHREN
I'm tired of these fucking liberals trying to erode BASIC freedoms like due process and constitutional rights in order to establish their big government fascist overreach bullshit. Advocating for these lists etc to remove peoples rights is straight fucked and another step towards their feminized neo-orwellian super state.
Get fucked OP. God I miss living in the US. Send some freedom our way when trump gets elected.
>you are not a terrorist
>you want to protect your house from the hordes of gangs roaming the streets
>Government restricts gun ownership without a license
>Unable to own a gun
>>77974859
It's actually an 870 wingmaster. Thanks though anon.
>>77970402
If only the FBI could do their job without having to stick with the PC narratives that would fire the agents that dare to challenge the relgion of peace
>>77974764
>muh evil gouv rhetoric
>>77975019
now terrorist can buy a gun
>>77975068
Right you are, I'm not good at shotguns since I never shoot them. The only one I own is a Mossberg, it looks just like mine. I'm saving for a 98k since the bolt on it makes my dick hard.
>>77970402
>CONSERVATIVE
Democrats just voted against 2 proposals that would delay the purchase of firearms to people on those lists.
Those proposals being supported by the NRA and Republicans.
>>77974187
INFRINGED
>>77974764
I think the most hilarious part of the No Fly list is that Cat Stevens was put on it, because lord forbid America lets that motherfucker in.
I mean, you can literally be put on that list as an infant because you have a name similar to someone else, and appealing it is almost impossible, who the fuck would think this is a good idea to be a base for anything?
>>77974993
Looks nice outwardly, though those grips aren't original, how's the bore and internals look?
Sometimes you'll run across a gun someone has shot a bunch of 7.62mm Tokarev through (sometimes the Bulgarian stuff even), and it's barely safe to fire, make sure the bolt won't dislodge and hit you in the face.
>>77975363
Literally the weakest of b8s senpai.
>>77975673
The internals are where the problems are. The spring that makes the action work gets stuck when you pull it back, and a few parts inside are warped. Ill be getting some replacement parts and getting it fixed up this summer.
>>77970606
>>77970499
it was largely democrats who voted against this gun control measure.
/rekt
>>77975567
>Those proposals being supported by the NRA and Republicans.
Wait, fuck, for real? Is it opposite day?
>>77970402
>you are a terrorist
If your a terrorist your under arrest.
>you are in the FBI watch list
Suspected terrorism isnt terrorism. Due process must proceed.
>>77975911
The dems were pushing 2 that the gop blocked and also vice versa.
>>77970402
SHALL. NOT. BE. INFRINGED.
if you outlaw assault weapons, then the only people who will have assault weapons are outlaws.
eat shit you gun grabbing prick.
>>77970402
GOD BLESS MURICA YOU CUNTS
>>77975864
And it's largely Democrats who are getting anally annihilated by it. I've seen several """friends""" post "Come on it's 2016 won't somebody please think of the fags" type of comments on Faceberg already.
>>77976134
>won't somebody please think of the fags
I am.
>>77974187
INFRINGED
>>77970402
Due process you fucking L E A F.
>>77976134
>largely Democrats who are getting anally annihilated by it
aka democrats that don't matter.
the ones in charge who are making decisions like this that impact the rest of us are luckily well informed and making the correct judgements.
>2016
>he cares about bleeding heart attentionwhores on social media
cmon man
>>77972017
Those are all extremely sexy
>>77972017
Love that battle rifle anon. PTR?
>>77975911
NRA is one of the worst organizations. They're just a "compromise" factory.
I'm willing to bet a bill was proposed to ban people on the lists from purchasing entirely and then the NRA stepped in and lobbied to make it just a delay and count that as a victory.
>>77970741
Yeah, that's why people are just thrown into Guantanamo. Maybe that would work, but it doesn't, because you already don't follow it for more important things.
>>77977247
Yeah, and if alcohol's legal, that means heroin should be too!
>>77972756
that galil looks pretty nice with magpul furniture.
I smiled when I heard the news.
>>77971808
Post links. Pls.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_Fly_List#False_positives
The problem is that you can put on the no fly list or mistaken for someone else on it, and subsequently have your second amendment rights violated, when you have done nothing wrong. There is little oversight and no due process, and it can be very difficult to get off the list once you're on it.
Here in the US, we do not take away peoples rights without due process. You have to be convicted of a felony by a jury of your peers for your second amendment rights to be taken away, for example.
Same reason we have innocent until proven guilty. We'd rather let 10 guilty people go than send 1 innocent person to jail. And we'd rather let 10 terrorists buy guns than let 1 innocent person's rights be violated. This may not make sense to you statist cucks living in totalitarian nanny states, but here in the US, it's how we operate.
>>77970402
What watch list was Omar Mateen on when he bought his guns?
How about any other terrorists or mass shooters?
They should just reinstate the assault weapons ban. ARs are ugly fucking guns that only rednecks and wannabe Rambos care for.
Revolvers, pistols and shotguns are the real shit.
>>77974496
It's a PTR, bruv
>>77977512
The idea that the government cannot take your rights without a fair process behind it is not just an American principle, it's a principle of civilized people.
I am always intrigued by folks who have become so culturally progressive that they have forgotten the most enlightened of our political developments.
>>77977049
I kinda know that, but it seemed like too much of a blatant thing for the NRA to back.
I guess I'll know for sure to never back the NRA now.
>>77970402
DAILY REMINDER: Voting third-party (libertarian, socialist, Communist, etc.) in a general and/or primary election is enough to get you placed on a federal watch list in the U.S.
If these bills passed and Obama signed them, 90%++ of /pol/ would be barred from gun ownership.
>>77978030
Daily reminder to fbi fags and nsa fags. 3d printed guns are already a thing, we can still kill you all if we really wanted. Your security attempts are pitiful. Now go work private where the real $ is at, sucking the government's dick for a measly 40k a year is retarded.
>>77978178
Lower 80s as well
Gun parts aren't illegal either
Maybe they'll go after bullets though
>>77977406
Yes, it should be. Drug use is a victim-less crime first of all. Second of all, legalize it; you can regulate it, you can educate people about its dangers. Thirdly, why is heroin illegal when tobacco is legal?
Heroin was, if I recall correctly, developed as a safer and less addictive alternative to Opium.
Also, Alcohol should be legal to drink and buy from at most 18 years of age in case you believe otherwise.
>>77977247
Guantanamo doesn't hold any US citizens.
>>77978178
This
>>77978279
All it'll do is enrich the cartels and flood the US with untraceable illegal guns, making murder harder to solve.
>>77970402
>government just puts every citizen on the "totally legit FBI watchlist"
>no more gun sales ever
>>77978372
Okay, so it's okay for the US to fuck over anyone they want as long as they aren't a citizen?
Pretty sure they are still entitled to those rights as long as they are on US territory.
Am I seeing this right or did democrats vote against their own proposals and then blame the republicans?
>>77978597
How is that surprising? They blamed the NRA and Republicans after a Muslim who was a registered Democrat shot up a gay nightclub.
>>77978597
Republicans had two bills that Democrats didn't think went far enough
Democrats had two bills that Republicans thought went too far
guys
GUYS
I have a question. How angry is King Obongo right now? I mean, just today:
>LGBTQ leaving the Democratic plantation in droves, buying guns
>Loretta Lynch BTFO trying to censor reports, forced to completely retract
>Four gun control bills scuttled
How long before he loses his shit and snackbars Congress?
>2015: Gay marriage legal
>2016: Gun rights still not infringed
God know what freedoms (new or upheld) 2017 will have.
>USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USAUSA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USAUSA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA
>>77977504
http://www.mangahere.co/manga/our_alliance_a_lasting_partnership/
>>77979075
>LGBTQ leaving the Democratic plantation in droves, buying guns
It's fucking beautiful.
>>77974764
That picture would be much better without the typo on Czechoslovakia. That's something a lot of lefties will try to draw attention to without arguing against the content of the pic.
>>77979075
>LGBTQ leaving the Democratic plantation in droves, buying guns
Only if those retards would stop voting Democrat though, the people trying to take their guns
Heard Pink Pistols gained 2,000 members in 24 hours from the shooting on Sunday to Monday
>>77979075
>>77979406
>We like to pack fudge, and heat
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcFEIW8Ev7s
>>77974649
God damn, did you steal my guns ?!
>>77970721
As if pol has EVER constructed a well-researched and thought out argument in the history of basement dwelldom
>>77979406
this will inevitably work against the gay community. queers love cocaine. literally every gay i've ever met loves the stuff. but guns and cocaine are a fucking lethal combination, to say the least.
watch as every gay bar across america becomes detroit.
>>77970402
Oh Canada. What happened to the men in your nation?
What part of the 2nd Amendment do you not understand? Shall not infringe is pretty direct.
If you want to put your faith and trust in the government that lies to you and is not obligated to protect you then go for it. But do NOT try to tell me that I can't protect my family because you are a pants shitter when it comes to guns.
If the 2nd Amendment refers to the "government has the right to keep and bear arms" then the 1st Amendment refers to the government has free speech.
As for "but why not someone on a watch list be banned from owning guns?" argument. Simple. You are put on a watch list by someone that thinks you may be someone to keep an eye on. There is no court or judgement against you. Just a suspicion. Often the person does not know he or she is on the list till they go to fly. Often they don't even KNOW why they were put on the list. There is no easy to way to get off the list. It took former Senator Ted Kennedy (RIP faggot) many many months to get off the list he was mistakenly put on. If Ted Kennedy a US Senator had to go months before getting his name taken off what hope do you and I have?
Finally the government can put all its political enemies (gays, liberals, conservatives, libertarians, dog lovers, etc) on that list and take away their rights.
Finally why do we have to keep giving up our God given rights when some faggot commits a crime? Do you hear people talking about banning cars when some drunk plows into a farmers market killing people?
>>77978581
No, the constitution simply does not apply to non-citizens.
>>77970402
I enjoy your libtard tears.
>>77978581
No, no you aren't.
The GOP is selling ISIS guns now.
>>77970402
FUCK YES THEY DID!!!!!!!
>4 FUCKING BILLS
>2 BILLS PROPOSED PER PARTY
>EACH ONE TRYING TO CAUSE GUN CONTROL IN SOME WAY
>THE VOTE IS SPLIT BETWEEN PARTY LINES
>BOTH PARTIES SHOOT EACH OTHER DOWN
>>77980824
They're just trying to keep up with Obama, he's been doing this in Syria for years.
>>77970402
Hey leaf
It has to do with denying someone their second amendment right, or any rights for that matter, without being convicted of a crime
The legal precedent pretty much abolishes the bill of rights
I know it's hard to understand not being burger and free, but our constitution is fundamental to who we are and how great we've been able to become
So we can't change it, if we do we are no better than you(leaf) and the Europeans
We don't fake freedom here
>>77981137
I don't like this reality we live in
>>77980804
Those AKs have nice wood
>>77977512
lol m8 innocent people go to jail on the time.
>>77981063
You forgot:
>FREEDOM UPHELD
>GUN GRABBERS BTFO
>>77980712
natural rights =/= constitutional rights dumbfuck
why do you 'strayans insist that you know everything about the workings of the government of a country that you've never lived in? is it just a geopolitical inferiority complex, or are you all just that fucking stupid?
>>77980804
You look pretty cool in your dad's shed.
>>77970402
Wow such freedom
>>77980824
>>77981137
lel m8s every presidential administration since forever has sold guns to radicals in the middle east. It's nothing new.
>>77970402
there is no due process
if there was then MAYBE people would be for it
but there's not, so fuck this
>>77981322
>Freedom Day two weeks from today
Can't fucking wait, best day of the year
>>77981330
meant for the australian you responded to
>>77978581
>>77981480
Who dis
>>77981063
Is that what happened? Is the GOP on board for gun control now?
>>77981461
You're goddamned right
>>77970402
You can't be deprived of your rights without due process, You need to be charged with a crime and given a trial. That is how civilized society works. If we just went by liberal feelz over reality we'd all be living in padded government sanctioned "safe spaces".
fuck yes america! I'm so proud of you
>t-a canadian gun owner
>>77970402
>what is due process?
>what is liberals would shit themselves if they knew a muslim was denied constitutional rights because he is on an FBI watchlist
Am I the only one who isn't scared of a gun ban? I live in Texas and if the libcucks try to enforce any bans they're gonna have to go through our governor first
>>77971381
If our FBI would actually do something about the sand niggers on the no fly/watch lists, we wouldn't have to worry about them getting guns.
I love this country man. The right to bear arms enshrined in the constitution. Soccer is for children, faggot yuros and city dwellers. Drive literally everywhere. Glorious nature and the greatest cities on earth. The home of Donald John motherfucking Trump. The world hegemon. The masters of the moon and space. How can the rest of the world even compete?
>>77981778
Normally I wouldn't be but we recently got an absolute cuck and a half as our governor last election here in PA.
>>77981590
Yes.
Look how the vote is split for all four bills
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=114&session=2&vote=00103
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=114&session=2&vote=00104
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=114&session=2&vote=00105
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=114&session=2&vote=00106
Except for, like, 2 people each time it's split between party lines. 2 repub bills shot down by dems and 2 dem bills shot down by repubs.
>both parties fucked themselves over
>we'll be hearing both parties blaming one another for weeks now
>>77981778
>muh Texas
You guys are literally half spics and a white minority. It's literally just gerrymandering that keeps you guys from going full demoshit
>>77981929
>Guinea pig as a mouse
wew
>>77981950
Doesn't change the fact that our past two governors love funs
>>77971109
>.45
>>77980824
Obama is just handing them over to freedom fighters that are easily killed
>>77982011
And? Give it a few more election cycles, plus all the Californians moving there and you'll be voting blue for the rest of history
>>77981490
I'm surprised no one has tried to say there is an attack on the 4th
>>77981778
At least you don't have
Rick "Oops" Perry
Rick "Tuition for illegals" Perry
anymore
Anyways, if you own a gun, gun bans won't mean shit. There are always lowers as well. Now if they try to ban bullets or a gun confiscation
>>77982239
>everyone is drinking, feeling extra patriotic and has access to firearms and explosives
That would be a really bad day for some raghead to fuck with America
>>77982451
Don't know about other states, but California usually has parks full of people and families watching fireworks, never heard of any fights let alone guns at those.
Terrorists do like soft targets
>>77982451
This. If any terrorizers would show up where I go to every year they'd be met with a bunch of heavily armed pissed off rednecks.
>>77970402
Shut the fuck up leaf. It doesn't matter if you understand faggot, you're not American. Eat shit.
>>77974207
That's not a slippery slope you austist.
The legislation would literally (and I use that word correctly) enable unelected officials to arbitrarily place anyone they see fit on a list without due process of law without any oversight or influence from the public.
That's why it's a problem.
>>77970402
Cry more, faggot.
>>77970721
Holy fuck, that girl got roasted
>>77981480
Who is this?
>>77981480
Might be carmine carrera post m2f proceed with caution anon.
>>77982972
As she should have been. This line of thought should be given NO quarter, and deserves to be savaged.
>>77983347
>>77981588
nicole mejia
Its been a good day
Just ordered a flintlock pistol to celebrate
>>77970402
SHALL
>>77984617
Wait there are black Donald Trump hats?
>>77985017
Do you live under a rock?
>>77985310
When I bought my red one there were no black ones.
>>77970721
>Trey Gowdy
How can one man be so based?
I got a little freedom boner.
>>77979398
Thanks boss.
>>77970721
Sometimes it's not even fair when rowdy Gowdy is grilling someone
Beautiful
>>77970402
Well.......I guess I shouldn't have bought all those stripped lowers.
>>77970402
congress actually delivered for once! it's called the slippery slope OP. unlike in your country our officials have a little fore sight. enjoy your unarmed, cucked existence canada peasants.
>>77972017
hell yeah brother
>>77970402
I dont like your post
>>77970402
Almost anyone can end up on the no-fly list or the FBI watch list for stupid reasons. I could probably report OP to the FBI and get him on a fucking watch list.
This is stupid.
>>77970873
I hate the color tone of your rifle. Stop trying to be a special little snowflake, you cunt.
>You are not a terrorist
>Government says you might be, but doesn't inform you and gives no probable cause
>goodbye Constitutional rights
>>77973077
spendy mags and shit trigger. BUT if you want one, get em while they are hot
>>77970402
lets start with the usual opening, op is a fag. Now as a proud Merican, I think the issue is less with guns and mostly to do with islam. I wish we can stop with the progressive faggotry and start looking at the real problem of islam. Also, criminals will get guns illegally... Background checks are enforced at gun shows, and gun shops. Its quite often that guns used in crimes, are stolen or illegal, or bought legally by a Muslim to be used in a massive shooting.
cuz profiling is a bad thing.
>>77970402
VOTE TRUMP TO KEEP YOUR GUNS
VOTE TRUMP TO KEEP YOUR GUNS
VOTE TRUMP TO KEEP YOUR GUNS
So what you are saying is you shouldn't ban people from buying a gun if they haven't been convicted of a crime but you should ban people from entering the country based on their religion
https://youtu.be/jEOTK_Lt8ms
https://youtu.be/jEOTK_Lt8ms
https://youtu.be/jEOTK_Lt8ms
There is no due process to determine who is and who isn't a terrorist and there also isn't a way to repeal if you are labeled as a suspected terrorist. Until they fix those problems, our second amendment rights can be easily stripped due to gov. manipulation
>>77990736
It's already illegal to possess a gun after being convicted of a felony or domestic violence.
>>77991130
Only for a certain number of years though.
>>77976058
Assault Rifles already are banned, fegit.
AR-15 stand for ArmaLite Rifle.
>>77990207
As much as I hate to say it the ones who are US citizens have just as much right to be here as anyone. We can't hold the second ammendment sacred and then just go round up all the Muslims, ignoring their own rights to freedom of religion and due process in the doing so.
The best we can hope for while upholding the values this country was founded on is some public discourse to spread awareness of the fact that even "moderate" muslims often hold some pretty extreme values which are at ends with the tenets of our civilization even if they don't have plans on Allah akbaring something. Hopefully with time we can temper the American brand of Islam into something a bit more palatable and make proper citizens out of them yet.
>>77978581
>jihadi enemies of the state
>anyone
Are all Aussies this naive
>>77991465
[citation needed]
>>77970402
You need to be charged with a crime to have rights taken away
this is basic, entry level criminal justice/human rights faglord
>>77992720
agreed a US citizen shall have all the rights. But, I think we need to look into the mosque network for potential threats, 2 terrorist from the same mosque is ridiculous. Before Orlando I was fine with saying radical Islam is the problem. After Orlando I think Islam is the problem. The shooter had a wife and kid and was a western citizen. I no longer have a doubt in my mind that a "moderate" Muslim is not a Muslim but a khafer, or a Muslim that is lying.
>you just liked a bible quote faceberg
>you are now on a FBI watch list
>you can't buy a gun
liberals BTFO
>>77970402
>due process
fuck off leaf
>>77970402
Simple
You can be added to the list on a whim. There no due process to be taken off the list.
>>77970402
>without any due process a member of the executive branch can block your right to keep and bear arms
>democrats have no problem with this
>democrats also had no problem blocking an expansion of the NICE(instant background check) and expansion of mental health records into the background checks that Republicans proposed
Oh right but it's conservatives and constitutionalists who are the bad guys, fuck off leaf
>>77970402
short sighted useful idiot. get a scope.
>>77993665
>you are a terrorist
>you are in the no flight list
>you are in the FBI watch list
if you're a terrorist why aren't you being arrested already?
>>77971393
It's in a historical marker
>>77993754
and deported, along with anyone who came with him
The only people with a legal birth right in this country are whites and slave blacks. Anyone else should be stripped and deported unless they are asian doctors or physicists.
>>77970721
Absolutely devastated.
>>77993754
Because the Terror watch list is for people they THINK MIGHT be terrorists, but aren't sure.
>>77981301
The point was our constitution and legal system is written to try to minimize the odds of that happening, even if it increases the odds of bad people being let go or getting things we'd rather them not.
>>77994372
>implying after the fact
>>77970402
gun grab = civil war
>>77978279
>Gun parts aren't illegal either
no, but you'll still get a surprise visit from the ATF if you buy an AR-15 barrel under 14.5", or a full-auto FCG.