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Company that employed actors that were victims at the Orlando shooting
http://crisiscast.com
>connected to
Omar Mateens Employer
http://www.g4s.us/en-US/

>this video was made back in 2015
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pRiV_mL2a7E
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>David Crowley, the director of “Gray State”, a movie about the New World Order and the occult mind-state of the elite was found dead in his home, along with his wife and young daughter. The Dakota County Sheriff’s Office stated that the deaths appeared “suspicious”.
Why didn't you listen?
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Omar Mateen was in a documentary years ago despite being denied security/law enforcement jobs in the past for denying to state wether or not he was on prescription drugs https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yzYsC3p7GZI
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Daily reminder that pharmaceutical companies actually fabricate shootings in order to push the "mentally ill" narrative and push their drugs onto society even further.
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>>77817782
PROOFS
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>>77817782
More Drugs Less Guns

MORE DRUGS LESS GUNS

GOOD GOYIM
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>>77817868
Companies like G4S are actually hiring programs for shooters that are willing to sacrifice their lives for the Illuminati's campaign of disinfo and control. If they die, their families are taken care of, if they live, they receive lifetime support from the company.
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>the illuminati would hire actors from a film company and not just kill people for real

very weird how conspiracy autists make the government seem nicer than they actually are
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>>77818100
They have the money to hire people AND hire hitmen to kill people.

It's not one or the other, it's both, you stupid bong.
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>>77818086
Would make perfect sense why his whole family and mosque that knew about the shooting and were given his house for $100 while praising him as he did the shooting on social media

REMAIN UNTOUCHED BY THE GOVERNMENT
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>>77818100
Why cant they kill actors you autist?

It was latin night and all the locals were kept out of Pulse Nightclub while foreign actors were allowed to host a giant gay party

Also that clip played 10000 time on fox news was a reenactment. That doesn't mean the shooting was fake. It means actors hijack it and create propaganda.
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>>77819730
>Why cant they kill actors you autist?
Wait, they need to hire people to pretend to be shot or die, meanwhile they kill the actors in the future?
>That doesn't mean the shooting was fake. It means actors hijack it and create propaganda.
So, the shooting is real... But they need to have actors on the spot where the shooting is occurring, pretending they've been shot and injured when real people have been shot and injured. What the fuck.
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>>77819730
>Shooting was real
>But there were multiple shooters and people barricading the doors.
>Meanwhile the Islamic State,Orlando Police Department,survivors and media have first hand accounts,video footage and confessions (ISIS admitting its attack).

Yeah, you're gonna need more than a Facebook conversation and 'ifs' to prove your point.
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Bump for interest
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>>77820132
It takes a lot of preparation and planning to turn a tragic incident into propaganda like this
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-TNyTwgO23U

Obama legalized domestic propaganda in 2013. It wasn't just for no reason
http://foreignpolicy.com/2013/07/14/u-s-repeals-propaganda-ban-spreads-government-made-news-to-americans/
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>>77820380
Look at the other connections between the company that employs the people like Luis Garbonzo Bean that was on TV and Megan Kelleys show repeatedly and Omar Mateen's employer G4S
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http://crisiscast.com/events/

http://crisiscast.com/people/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJiUGukxZLQ

just read though their website and watch the vid

kek theyre not even hiding it
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>>77820906
>Home Office Security and Policing Event 2016

In partnership with CrisisCast

CrisisCast sponsored the purpose built Live Demo Arena across the three days of the show, hosting a diverse range of cutting edge technologies and equipment, from a host of exhibitors, who addressed the growing need for border security solutions.

Visitors were able to hear about the most up-to-date search techniques used, the equipment used to tackle border crime, and watch a rolling programme of carefully arranged activities and demos, all in safe and secure surroundings.

We provided our OB van and crew along with giant arena screens and a PA systems. And of course, a company of actors to bring the each demonstration to life!

There's a lot of implications in these statesments
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>>77816008
I'm just going to check the levels of meme magic in this thread real quick. Won't take a minute.
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Can somebody summarize to me what this thread is about?
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>>77819730

look kids. look at OP and laugh.

OP thinks that everyone in the club that night including the staff was in on the plan to take OP's guns.

OP thinks that all the dozens of cops and FBI who investigated were in on the plan to take OP's guns.

OP thinks that all the fake dead people have adopted new identities and will never contact their families and friends again, either that or all their families and friends were also in on the plan to take OP's guns.

OP thinks all the area hospitals and emergency centers were in on the plan to take OP's guns.

and the whole plan had to be worked out word-of-mouth so that no record of this ludicrous operation would ever be published.

look at OP, kids. don't do drugs, kids.
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>>77821437
false flags and staged event crisis to manipulate

pic related
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>>77821437
The Orlando shooting may or may not be what we were told but that doesn't matter at all.

It is being used as DIVIDE AND CONQUER PROPAGANDA to get half of America passionately Anti-Gun/Pro-Islam and the other half passionately Pro-Gun/Anti-Islam

SOMETHING BIG IS COMING AND THEY DO NOT WANT TO AMERICAN PEOPLE TO STAND UNITED

THIS IS JEWISH TACTICS IN ITS MOST EFFECTIVE FORM
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>>77821459
this is probably more than just guns and the 2a
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>>77821459
>why would you ever question anything goyim
>you don't want to be called a tinfoil drug addict conspiracy theorist do you
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>>77821459
Read my previous post shill
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Why does everything that happens have to be a false flag in the mind of you people? Sometimes... (gasp) Muslims kill people
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>>77821757
I've been on the website.
But this is not news.
It is well-known that if you want to train police and shit you have to do good simulations.

E.g. at the London Airport they faked a massive airplane emergency so the airport could drill prevention measures.

It is natural you want your exercise to look as real as possible.

OP is just mistaking war games industry for an attempt to scam the public -- so to speak.
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>>77821838
I CANNOT STRESS THE IMPORTANCE OF THIS POST ENOUGH

DONALD TRUMP BETTER KNOW THIS AND DO SOMETHING OR WE ARE ALL FUCKED

THEY CANT KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH THIS
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>>77821838
>anti gun pro islam v pro gun anti islam

Gee i wonder who wins
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>>77821913

are you claiming that they hired actors to be killed? or are you saying that people were not killed.

I realize that you are an insane idiot, but try to answer that question.
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>>77822077
>>77821986
See this
>>77821838
STOP LOOKING AT THE SURFACE EVENTS

THEY ARE IRRELEVANT AND POINTLESS
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>>77822108
Which side does Obama and the US government stand with?
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>>77822116
Im saying it doesn't fucking matter
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>>77822324
>Im saying it doesn't fucking matter

then make another thread for your nonsense. OP has laid out a lot of nonsense claiming actors were involved in the club. I want to know if he is saying they were killed or not. Either way he is full of shit.

If he has run away, fine.
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>>77817782
It demonizes their drugs, though?

>>77818100
They appear to have moved into feeding the media on-message narrative pictures after mass casualty events.

The media gain top class sympathy porn and gore pictures that they would otherwise be criticized for printing by real victims (actor's families aren't going to sue for trauma or invasion of privacy) and the government gets to seed its propaganda.

Doesn't mean these events aren't happening. Evidence of doctored media images is exactly that and no more.

If anything, the cover up at Pulse was the existence of multiple shooters i.e. the narrative of the Lone Wolf is to downplay jihad. See also the Australian choclate shop shoot out, where we distinctly heard a woman jihadi's voice on the hostage videos, yet the event was claimed to be done by just one guy.
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http://www.cnn.com/2016/05/22/world/isis-more-attacks-ramadan/
Possible HAPPENING for which they want The Divided States of America and NOT The United States of America

DSA falls

USA survives
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>>77822425
How about you fuck off if you don't like this thread bitch?
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>>77822795
>How about you fuck off if you don't like this thread bitch?

cool. you are admitting that logic and facts have no place in this >>>/x/ tier thread.

admit that?
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>>77816008
definite false flag by the jews. I hope people don't think a muslim would actually do this like with what happened with 9/11
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>>77822425
what if the actors were not the victims but rather the shooter and maybe a couple of other collaborators?

Not saying this shooting was faked, just proposing ideas
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>>77822645
>If anything, the cover up at Pulse was the existence of multiple shooters i.e. the narrative of the Lone Wolf is to downplay jihad

how do you convince all the cops on the scene to agree to that? before or after the event? if before, then you are insane. if afterwards, when was the meeting? where was the meeting?
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>>77822991

if you are claiming that lee harvey oswald came back from the grave and persuaded Omar to go on a suicidal mission, fine, I accept that as a theory.

but seriously: tell me again about these actors who die for a few bucks.
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>>77823112
you misunderstood, i said the victims who died were NOT actors, they were used.
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>>77823214

if the shooter was an actor, then an actor died, right?
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>>77822930
>definite false flag by the jews.

how did they get Omar to die for their cause. he's a muslim.
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>>77821838
>>77821838
>>77821838
STOP ARGUING ABOUT THE SHOOTING

PERCEPTION IS REALITY AND THE PERCEPTION IS THAT IT HAPPENED

THE REAL QUESTION IS WHAT ARE (((THEY))) DOING WITH THAT PERCEPTION

IF A PIECE OF PAPER NEVER EXISTED BUT ALL OF HUMANITY AGREES IT EXISTED AND BURNED UP THEN THE PAPER, IN REALITY, DID EXIST AND DID BURN UP BECAUSE REALITY IS WHAT WE ALL AGREE UPON
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>>77823018
You don't report what they say.

You give the media a nice fat pack of gore pictures, pictures of people crying into mobile phones, a whole page of quotes and transcipts of interviews of witnesses, and then give them a nice big space away from the first responders to film their Live broadcasts.

You also make sure you are friends with the people at the top of the medis organisations who will help you push whatever you are pushing. (That's nothing new at all).

Then when someone does pipe up, they can be dismissed as mistaken, or conspriacy theorists. How many ex-cops and FBI are featured on conspiracy websites as whistleblowers? Why did the real news never listen to what they had to say?
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>>77823296
ah correct, and that part i cant explain (i dont even believe in the whole conspiracy anyway).

But there could be so many possibilities, either the "actor" was used and sacrificed for a lack of a better word. Or an even more tinfoil theory, the actor actually didnt die since this was a controlled crisis.

and btw look at the crisis cast website (http://crisiscast.com/about/) some of their fabricatd Demos are very well made. Also the youtube link that i posted earlier about the woman with bleeding face talking about being hired by a pharmaceutical company.
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>>77823484
>You give the media a nice fat pack of gore pictures,

who? the cops on the scene and the fbi on the scene gave statements as soon as the dust cleared.

I know that lots of cops and government people are corrupt. but in this case, when was the big plan made? before or after they knew Omar was a lunatic muslim?

again, who is doing all this split-second controlling?
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>>77823655
>Also the youtube link that i posted earlier about the woman with bleeding face talking about being hired by a pharmaceutical company is probably the biggest proof we have.
fixed
cant into english today
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>>77823655
>the actor actually didnt die s

thanks for being realistic. but if he did not die, now some or all of the cops on the scene have to be in on the plot, and it had to be worked out in advance in order to have them there and prepared, so that means they knew what Omar was planning.
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>>77823315
OR Saudi Arabia buys up controlling shares in Twitter and Facebook, which then promote jihad and suppress nationalism?

Which have we seen happen?

No doubt the Jews are pushing for Greater Israel, yet we dowmplay the corrosive influence of Arabs at our own peril.
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>>77823839

but if even one person in the club was part of a plot, that suddenly requires lots of people to have been in on the plot, including Omar who would have agreed to die for them. and everyone says he was kinda crazy.

and as I pointed out earlier, any plan had to be word of mouth or somebody somewhere could publish proof.
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>>77823859
Jews and Arab Muslims work together.
See
>>77823459
>>77821838

Neither of them wants a "Free and Independent" USA
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YafZkjiMpjU
Listen to the last quote in this speech and you'll know why he was shot
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>>77824116

I LOVE YOU
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>>77824196
>>77824116

Why?
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>>77824184

so you've apparently abandoned all that bullshit about actors, after some asshole (me) decided to inject some logic?

say so, or go back and defend your terrible theory that at least one person in the club was an actor.

go ahead. I'll be here all day.

>>77824277

it was a joke you full blown aspie
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>>77823707
>the cops on the scene and the fbi on the scene gave statements as soon as the dust cleared.
No, they didn't. Those were part of the package. Those Q&As and speeches were all part of what we were allowed to be shown.

At no point did a journalist get to wander off and interview eye witness SWAT members, for example.

The narrative is controlled. There are operational reasons for doing this normally, especially where a crimescene is involved, not wanting to prejudice a jury being a good reason to filter eveything through an official screening.

The example to study is Boston. The pictures we were shown were not taken on the day of the bombing. It doesn't mean there wasn't a bomb, yet it's fucking weird they would distribute mocked up pictures of well known paraolypians (the blonde girl) at a practice event and try to pass them off as the real thing.

Ditto now the dark haired girl with the black wristband at Pulse. She appears to be their standard "worried survivour crying into a mobile phone" stock picture.

This strange new practice has lead to all manner of odd things, like children dying tragically twice. The other thing to note is that they appear to be leaving easter eggs for paranoid conspiracy nuts going through the photos. To me, that proves it isn't just incompetance, as that's exactly what I'd do if this was my job.
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>>77824511
>Ditto now the dark haired girl with the black wristband at Pulse. She appears to be their standard "worried survivour crying into a mobile phone" stock picture.

sigh. back to actors. ok, did any actors die? if not then how did your actors know in advance that Omar was going to shoot up the club.
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>>77823842
>thanks for being realistic
sarcasm? Its a crazy theory hence why i do not believe it.....

Its pretty hard to prove this part of the story The most realistic theory is this: Omar was somehow was convinced to commit the shooting. on the crisis casting FB page they talk about preventing radicalization so maybe they know a thing or two about this. But either way omar was "used" and the victims were NOT actors and the real actors come out post-shooting when the cameras enter the scene.

It makes no sense if everyone is an actor. But then again who knows they could all be

we have too many missing piece to even get a sense of the picture so its just a circlejerk topic
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CrisisCast.com
https://archive.is/r7nVf omar bateen omdb page
http://archive.is/nzhbh doctor never evaluated omar
http://archive.is/Ym9DU crisis cast homepage
http://archive.is/GMofK crisis cast clients including G4S
http://archive.is/jFAJL luis burbano imdb page
http://archive.is/6T37L Florida Chief Medical Examiner Dr. Joshua Stephany -- just appointed last Tuesday!!
https://mega.nz/#!l5ADRLzA!sGNzR8_DxQerygvAvfzQEMrzZI6VKgvjasE7evQLSfI Luis Burbano actor


https://mega.nz/#!pl4UkDzY!aOoLQ06oFg8Y6bQC_loz6FXBKnB31TEIY35zTnzelM8 anderson cooper video
https://mega.nz/#!Fw5wQBQZ!cpT1zY-raaZ3NZWEZ9p4tJ4iFl3ehDaawmITaRahpR8 witness states there were multiple shooters

https://mega.nz/#!F0ZwlIyR!5HFPVS4qTvw6INkZYhWyA_9pulsv0IAXASahCx1bev0 Media Casually Touring badeen's house, like in the sandy hook investigation

https://mega.nz/#!5hwXCLQC!kjRgyLcRkVpDvhUSumNgKYVNnw0eu8Lps4kz1_AuCQg this shooter was "hospitalized" and carried out by police in videos of the attack aftermath
https://mega.nz/#!JoxFFAhS!TaYspvIm0cipLDAs5P-MuiJ06IvHtMrr7CZ8x63nOUw Crisis actor scripts recycled


https://mega.nz/#!A8hlzJRI!CQRefw-44dpRyCC8YRLffB8XXtKWdCWY4gVJAHWpOZY omar mateen in big fix

https://mega.nz/#!BtwzDDhb!uH9kYet8pyXomSyHqlEUevaKAjH8ve_UyQJ7aBs7DCo omar mateen's imdb page scrubbed
https://mega.nz/#!IoQFzAoY!hjfPHatUWyVdRkBiH2-5zfaWtztn5mscGuZCcK0M6YY Brandon Wolf ("The Kandi Factory")
https://mega.nz/#!Yopg1DZC!AwyUhkE7g-tgwDR5XEizTqW_BGkq7TKcxP9OXUwUM0g A policeman winks and smiles at the camera.
https://mega.nz/#!41YSCb7Z!YyLxEtWh5OQyuhBZtuQYbRjSge4rnqmyL4gulOp5AnMpatience reads poem, meets obama crisis actor
https://mega.nz/#!l0IwDZIA!ASHAuOn9YYLPLk9pmg0dPOpCZIccVBeGLPUrAhN0O58 Patience, crisis actor, make a dollar video
https://mega.nz/#!UwQGkKYS!4kSP94QhEUFNn0XCwU5Q3U73zeaFaFCLS3UoVnJ-MUs spirit of orlando shooting up music video
https://mega.nz/#!I5Q3XYAI!FPoiKO32o_5CmuxKrI4lfSjFoCprON4VjZVgzBUNeGw false flag crisis actor is carried off camera, then he stands and walks away
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>>77823912
What's that below triangle?
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>>77823459
thanks travis
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>>77824625
>The most realistic theory is this: Omar was somehow was convinced to commit the shooting

how is that more realistic than the official story? who would be behind this, and how do they convince a man with issues to commit suicide for them?
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>>77821913
TFW not being paid to explain spurdo to balding middle-aged men
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>>77824676
>Our specially trained professional role-play actors and internationally credited film crews bring realistic, informed, crisis management and disaster incidents to life. as a company we use state of the art uk and Australian film crafts, tricks and skills for live training that requires hyper real battlefield effects, role players, stunts, medical simulations and combat flashpoints.

>We are able to use specialist film techniques and disciplines to bring the best of theatre and film to our live, immersive simulations.

Among Crisis Cast's clients is G4S, the largest multinational security firm in the world, and Omar Mateen's employer of nine years.

http://crisiscast.com/clients/

The young man who contradicted multiple reports of multiple shooters, Luis Burbano, is an actor. Evidently, his most recent acting credit, according to IMDB, was something called Spirit of Orlando: Shooting Up (2015). It's described as a musical video short. After the Orlando shooting, this credit was removed from his list of credits.

Here is a screencap from 06/15/16, before the credit was removed.

http://i.imgur.com/6ScPNzp.jpg

Here is his IMDB page, where you can see that the credit is gone:

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3483499/

Here is his ABC interview in which says that there was only one shooter:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X75iFs10g8A [Open]

This video on CNN's official YouTube channel of Anderson Cooper embracing Christine Leinonen, who lost her son in the shooting, is getting an overall negative response with almost three times as many downvotes as upvotes and top comments describing it as fake.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0yN_qM_ZeM [Open]
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>>77824676

ahh, new meat.

question: did any actors die that night?
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>>77824755
>>77824676

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRiV_mL2a7E [Open]

http://sys.4chan.org/derefer?url=http%3A%2F%2Fss13.moe%2Fpolitics%2Fomar_imdb

In this video, a police officer can be seen smiling and winking while a press conference is given about the shooting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39iLE0XvEN0 [Open]

The doctor on the paperwork filed with the state of Florida, Carol Nudelman, claims that she never evaluated him.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3647779/Doctor-listed-psych-evaluation-carried-Omar-Mateen-says-did-not-him.html#ixzz4BxSYnF54

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3q2n0efcK8 [Open]
What is this shit
https://twitter.com/Angrygra/status/744289246169735171

Here's the clip from The Big Fix that features him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-NSsUo4Rlo [Open]
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>>77824676
>>77824755
>>77824817
The FBI accidentally left Mateen's apartment unsecured and media was able to come and go as they pleased less than 24 hours after the event.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nFyV7-UY9w [Open]

trust you've seen her Wheel of Fortune audition tape...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jT3w2COPzoY [Open]

Christine Leinonen

What is body language? No shivering, her breathing is normal as hell, and she keeps sniffling but her nose is dry as a bone (Bonus: Glasses to hide non-existent tears). If you've seen the entire interview her responses do not make sense.

1) she states her son is missing and numerous people have been brought to the hospital supposedly "unidentifiable". However, each and every person would have their ID in their pocket because it is required to enter the club. There are 2 places her son could be either the club or the hospital

2) In the first interview she states she has no idea what happened to her son and that he is not responding to calls. Then she goes on to say with full confidence "He was sitting next to his boyfriend, who was definitely shot and brought to the hospital". Logic says there is no way she would have that information, barely anyone knew what was happening in the club.

3) 2nd interview: She seems to prematurely give up hope and begins to praise her son as if he is dead, but claims to still not know the whereabouts of her son. Even going on to mispronouncing the "Anne Franke Humanitarian of the Year award". (mispronunciations are clues of reading from a teleprompter).

4)The anti-assault weapon propaganda

5)A mom who can't find her son is talking to cameras less than 24 hours after a crisis. A mom would find her child first and do the bullshit camera story after. (In real life)

This is a collection from two threads yesterday.
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>>77824746
Its not more realistic. I meant the most realistic tinfoil conspiracy theory is this. But none of them are more convincing than the official one.
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>>77824817

how many actors died that night? did anyone die that night?
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>>77824853
>. I meant the most realistic tinfoil conspiracy theory is this

yes I agree with that. any plot that involves fake deaths automatically includes dozens if not hundreds of people.

yes, that theory could very well be true, but there is zero evidence for it, correct?
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>>77824848

hey! stop posting links and answer a simple question: how many of your actors died that night? did anyone die that night.
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>>77824710
thats called a sigil.
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>>77824711
Who's travis?
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>>77824755
>>77824817
>>77824848

HEY LINK BOY! HOW MANY ACTORS DIED? DID ANYONE DIE.

i need you to comment so I can destroy you like I destroyed OP and that other moron.
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>>77823912
damn son, u look like a faggot
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>>77824868
Real people may or may not have died that night. Either way, there are many pieces of evidence that are hard to discount as "coincidence"
>>77825013

>>77824809
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>>77825239
>t. Either way, t

NO, sheldon, there is not an "either way". you have posted a pile of shit that implies that it was a fake event.

are you repudiating all your bullshit links now? sorry you wasted so much time.
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>>77824971
I wouldnt say 0 evidence because there is some pretty shady stuff. Its not like its a picture or a meme. There are whole websites with videos and everythings BY the companies, actors, and news

I think you havent even read or seen any of the porposed evidence.

>>77824676
>>77824755
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like the ol' nipple play, do ya?
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>>77825223
why are you so obsessed with whether or not someone die
that's a conclusion too far ahead to determine with the evidence available
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>>77825354
>I think you havent even read or seen any of the porposed evidence.

correct. but I don't have to.

1. if Omar was an actor, was he killed? if so, why would he sacrifice his life for jews or whoever? he is on record as being opposed to the us government.

2. if the whole thing was staged, go back and look at my first post, which basically destroys that possibility. remember that this is real life, not a movie.
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>>77821838
>>77822079
>>77822656
>>77823459
THERE IS A FABRICATED ARGUMENT GOING ON IN THIS THREAD TO HIDE THESE POSTS FROM ANY LURKERS

READ THESE 4 POSTS AND IGNORE THE RETARDS ARGUING OVER CONSPIRACY THEORIES
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>>77825450
>why are you so obsessed with whether or not someone die
>that's a conclusion too far ahead to determine with the evidence available

BWAHA HAHA AHAH AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA

you are for real. I apologize for taunting you now. I feel bad.
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From the 9/11 controlled demolition up until now, the jewish truth is aired from newsmedia outlets for your gullibility, goym.
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>>77825544

Oh lord. another surrender.

damn this thread feels awesome.
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>>77825544
tl;dr
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>>77825532
>correct. but I don't have to.
pff, fuck outta here
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>>77825569

meme warfare center.

hilarious.
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Why is America so full of conspiratards?
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>>77824676
The shills will slide these threads, these are all of the links you need to download and save offline before they're edited.
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>>77825755

no, wait a minute. I have addressed everything you said, and you come back and say, uh, I can't refute you, but if you go watch two hours of video you will believe a bunch of nonsense too.

start with Omar. if he acted alone, then the whole thing is what it is.

if actors were involved at any point in the first few hours, OMAR DID NOT ACT ALONE.

so, if Omar was paid to die, and he killed shit load of non-actors, why do we need actors?

but if HE DID NOT KILL ANYONE, then half of orlando is in on the plot.

i'm starting to see your strategy. I state logic, and you say "go look at this other shit", and I restate the iron-clad logic, and you tell me to fuck off.
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Look I'm not saying groups of people don't conspire to further their interests.

Case in point, a conspiracy with a large and repeatable body of evidence with clear ties between each event surrounding it:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GEC-Marconi_scientist_deaths_conspiracy_theory

However this thread OP is slightly silly.
For one - of course it makes sense that a security company would also role play crisis events. You would use these to train support staff and promote your firms effectiveness in hypothetical situations.

That song "Shooting Up" probably relates to heroin epidemic that is currently affecting the Orlando area since 2014. "Shooting Up" is a euphemism for the act of administering heroin.
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>>77816500
>Dakota County
Fuck me. That's ridiculously close to home.
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>>77826015

you're still avoiding the simplest of questions: did your actors die or not? and it is the root of your theory. you can't just post 500 links and ignore this basic point.
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>>77821318
Dank pepe my friend, saved
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>>77816008

I'd heard about the crisis actors present at Sandy Hook, but I'd never seen a website for a Crisis Acting company.

It's true, THEY'RE LYING TO US MAN
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>>77826071
>iron-clad logic
ignoring evidence is iron-clad logic?

>I state logic, and you say "go look at this other shit"
I just refute this logic with some more evidence which you havent even looked at

>but if you go watch two hours of video you will believe a bunch of nonsense too.
I dont believe there were any actors, i believe in the official story. im just calling out your ignorance
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>>77816008
Can we get someone to give us the lyrics? The song makes my head fucking hurt and I feel a bit dizzy after listening to it for more than a minute
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mudslime wa a gud boy he wuh he gettin he life together,he wuz finna go to acting skool,he dindu nuffin
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>>77826483
>im just calling out your ignorance

ok, sorry if i haven't taken you seriously. but if you believe the official story, what's all the other "evidence" that I'm supposed to go look at.

could you summarize at least one of the pieces of evidence that shows that Omar was an actor or part of a plan, or that anyone else in the club was? or that "the official narrative" was somehow controlled from outside?

I'll go to one link if it's not a 2 hour video.
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>another episode of psy ops for more gun control
K...KEEP ME
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>>77826800
Read this post
>>77821838
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>>77826560

I STILL LOVE YOU
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>>77827037

I CLICKED ON THAT AND MY ANTI-VIRUS WENT OFF SCALE
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>>77825819
The psy-ops campaigns driven into everyone's skulls at a young age through schooling, media, television PROGRAMMING (caps for emphasis), etc... you either reject it and stand out as being different, therefore labeled as a "conspiratard" as you so eloquently put it, or you conform and don't question anything making you a sheep to the machine.
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>>77826483

also, here's a good summary of the "official narrative", with a bit of clarification of some aspects that I had wondered about, such as what exactly happened with the security guard.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/jun/18/orlando-nightlcub-shooting-pulse-florida-attack-timeline
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What I don't understand is that if you were trying to do a false flag attack, why wouldn't you just hire the attacker? Why do you need actors to play the victim when you can just shoot a couple people and there are real genuine victims to do the job for you?
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>>77827724

That very point makes the tin-foil brigade upset, because once you eliminate the dead bodies, you have to include half of Orlando in your plot.

It's like Sandy Hook. Once you claim the kids didn't die, you have to include the whole damn neighborhood and all the cops and emts in the plot. either that or all the families up and leave town and assume new identities and train 5 year old kids to deny coming from newton.

there are so many holes in the "actors" theory it's like shooting fish in a barrel. If they could stick to the false flag, all they have to argue is that Omar and his dad and Omar's wife were in on the plot. which is still ludicrous.
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>>77828156
>32 posts
Whats your deal bruv?
Why are you caring this much?
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>>77827668
Is that supposed to be Kelley or Dee?

>tfw atheists don't know about Edward Kelley or John Dee outside of kikepedia.
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>>77828490

Because it's hilarious, in a schoolyard bully kinda way. I actually feel a bit bad when one of the kids gives up.
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>>77821838
Obviously.
They're gonna try to red october->holodomor us.

If only it weren't for those pesky guns.
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I remember when I was in 1st grade back in 1986 we had teachers, firemen, and police come to the school and they had planned for us to play a game, to lay still in different positions, with hot sauce spilled around us "to show an earthquake knocked stuff on the floor". There were cameras there too, every adult had a laminate ID.

Parents showed up after seeing there were cars all over the school, and started raising hell threatening to sue the school, the police officers there, firemen, and those recording what was going on. Some fathers, together, were saying they will leave and come back and take us kids out of there by force. They let us all go, saying "they were done" after the parents shut it down.
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>>77828611
>trying to shill demonic magic in a serious thread

Christ is Lord and Savior. In the Name of the Holy Father, I rebuke thee.
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We need people to infiltrate these crisis actor companies and watch them closely. I'm going to start looking locally and try to join one of them.
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>>77821838
This so much. Doesn't ever matter what happened when events like this take place it alls that matters is WHO BENEFITS.
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>>77821838
I also want to add we are going to see more and more of this orchestrated shit the closer we come to election time.

I have a bad feeling that the left is going to fucking go all out and pay big money to have Trump removed and it worries me. They are going to use the media to keep pushing shit about Trump, saying he's evil, then possibly even mention some shit like he's going after social security and even food stamps to try to generate angry poor shooters.
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>>>/x/

It is funny though, this is the longest that it's ever taken /pol/ to call false flag on a shooting, I guess the majority of /pol/ is so brainwashed with the anti-muslim propaganda that they're slipping.
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>>77824277

Because he understands.
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>>77829140
>f this orchestrated shit

lots of people who knew Omar are saying that he had issues. Anger issues, and issues with his own sexuality. Do you think that was "orchestrated"? Or, to put it simply, which part of Orlando seems "orchestrated"? He had training on how to use a gun effectively, he got a bit crazy, and he killed a bunch of people in a confined area. Why does that seem orchestrated, rather than simply tragic?

Of course the gun control crowd is using this event. Why shouldn't they? We need to publicize cases where people defend themselves legally with guns, instead of sounding like tin-foil alex jones nutballs.
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>>77828948
FINALLY A NON SHILL IN THIS THREAD

PREACH BROTHER
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>>77828581
Sorry mate, was taking a phone call

To get back to your post >>77826894, There is no ""one"" link that you can click on and suddenly be enlightened thats never how research works.

There are plently of links ITT that you ignored and now youre telling me to give you some of them when you can literally just scroll up.

But to give you some of the best links:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJiUGukxZLQ

http://crisiscast.com

To summarize: CrisisCast's emplyer G4S a private secuirty company had omar mateen as an employer for several years and G4S could have been hired by any organization to stage an attack and fulfil their agenda (whatever it may be, 2a/guns, divide and conquer, pharmaceutical companies creating a need for drugs etc.). On the surface Crisis cast is a good idea for military and police because of the reasons in this post: >>77822077. But that doesnt mean they cant do any shady business especially in todays world were there is a 'war' of political ideologies.
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>>77829695
>orchestrated does not mean completely controlled

The point is that it doesn't fucking matter

They are dividing the country in preparation for something big and Ramadan goes until july 5th
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>>77830197
>The point is that it doesn't fucking matter

If it doesn't matter, why did you post earlier about actors being involved? To be credible, you have to make credible claims. That's my whole reason for being in this love-fest.

And who exactly is "they"? the joos? the lluminati? The democrats? Liberals? It's standard practice in politics to defend your platform with facts, and as an adult, you have to accept that not everyone will agree with you.

But to make claims, and as soon as someone points out the flaws in your claims, to go "it doesn't matter", is, well, sad.
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>>77816008

Based tune, anon.
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>>77830653
(((They))) is just those in power above government.

What matters is that they are getting ready to do something in the near future when the USA is at it's peak division
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>>77831318
Why are you spamming these?
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>they didn't make the shooter white
thats where your theory falls apart senpai
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Traditional magic trumps meme magic. One will make you a magus, the other will make you a sorcerer.
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>>77816500
Jesus Christ.
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>>77831649
DESU meme magic is more fun though
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>>77831307
>(((They))) is just those in power above government.

I take that to mean jews who have money, correct? If they use their influence to improve our gun control laws, and they mention this tragedy as support for their position, there is nothing at all wrong with that.

As I said before, your job is not to concoct baseless theories involving crisis actors and fake blood, but to use concrete examples of how people use guns to defend themselves.
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>>77829944
is that a real plato quote im too lazy to look it up.
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>>77831812
MAY QEK BLESS YOU
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>>77831947
More than likely it is. Socrates, though, since most quotes attributed to Plato is actually from Socrates. The quote goes hand in hand with the Allegory Of The Cave, so it's probably legitimate.
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>>77831947
Yes.

This thread is full of disinformation though. Just look at this cuck trying to tell me what my job is>>77831893

Fucking shills arguing that jews pushing gun control is a good thing when noone even gives a fuck what he is talking about.

Pic related is an example of a fake quote
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>>77832501

YOU ARE DOING GOD'S WORK, MY SON.
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>>77821986
True, but ((they)) won't let a good tragedy go to waste.
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>>77816500
Damn that shit looked awesome. I would definitely pay to see that movie.
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>>77816008

>Spirit of Orlando twitter feed has not been active since last September.
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Has anyone ever seen a thread get spammed this much by useless bullshit about ancient pictures and intense arguing over nothing?

This is the Jewiest shill shit I have ever seen. Like the CIA, JIDF and Hillary Clintons entire online hitsquad teamed up to shitpost in a thread.
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>>77816008

>baffled that there were GAY actors at a GAY bar.


SHOCKING

you guys are pathetic.
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>>77832877
You and your whole family are now going to commit suicide.

Expect a knock on your door tomorrow you domestic terrorist.
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>>77821757
This company is in the UK. What does that have to do with America?
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>>77834017
It has nothing to do with anything. The fact that cinema exists is enough to make some of these tinfoilers think that everything is a false flag.
Doesn't even make sense in this case. A year ago everyones saying that the luminatea is causing immigration and muslim infestation to destroy the white man, or some such bullshit; Now a shooting happens that paints muslims in a bad light and it's still the luminatea trying to destroy the whiteman.
That's just /pol/ for you.
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The Sun is nearly risen in my country. I will finally be finished soon.
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When will this ancient art spam stop?
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>The Jews/Illuminati/Reptilians/Boogiemans are so intelligent and powerful that they control the media, politics, and finances of the entire planet!

>They're so clumsy and incompetent that I just unraveled their entire evil plot with a 5 minute google search!

Make up your minds, conspiritards.
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>>77818100

The goal is to convince the public to give up their weapons not to kill them you stupid shit.
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>>77819584
It was actually $10 that he sold to his sister.
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>>77817782

They want to get as many conspiracytards medicated as a possible so they shutup.
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>>77835264
Being clumsy and leaving evidence is irrelevant if you control the media you retarded shill

You think some selfie-taking facebook addict tax payer has the IQ or attention span to piece together anything bigger than a 6 second vine, take a shot of vodka or smoke a bongload?

Strawman and not an argument. Fuck off shill
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>>77836074
Oy vey, an even better deal!
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It is now daylight, Monday the 20th of june, 7:20 AM

I am now done. Here is a somewhat relevant pepe for your patience
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>>77836327

very nice work, sir. thank you.
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>>77835264
>Owning the media means you need to be intelligent
>Owning finance means you need to be intelligent
>Owning politics because you control them by borrowing them money and can kill them in a second by printing garbage in your media that goys will lap up means your intelligent

No wonder you voted for a dog shagging drama teacher.
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>>77824611
>how did your actors know in advance that Omar was going to shoot up the club
Ever hear of this little thing called MKULTRA?

They could quite easily have doped up Omar to be in no condition to do anything other than stand still and be shot when SWAT break in and he's the only guy standing there with a gun.
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>there were actors at the bar so it's all staged
wew
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>>77835264
But nothing is unraveled. No one is going to believe it. Those that do believe will be unable do anything about it. But the conspiracy theories will fly around and those that share them will ridiculed and ignored. Who would want to be in power but have no one know it? Better to have a small group of dissecting citizens who have no power or hope of overthrowing you.
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>>77824848
>doors wide open
>firearms license laid out on the counter

LMFAO not even trying to hide it anymore. BAN ASSAULT JEWS
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It was staged

Watch this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6lh7-Gc6KA
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>>77820602
>Today, the military is more focused on manipulating news and commentary on the Internet, especially social media,
>by posting material and images without necessarily claiming ownership," reported the Post.

That's some fucked up shit.
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>>77823842
Or he died but he's actually been primed for something like this for a while- the government using jihadists. He already wants to die for his cause.

Then some of the supposed survivors are actors who help shape the narrative that emerges- they don't even have to have actually been there, but the company that employs them makes it look like they were because they're inserted into the scene soon after the shooter is killed.

Of course, this is purely hypothetical. The event is being used to spread a certain narrative- and that's all I can say for certain.
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>>77816008
Wait... its confirmed that they employed all the victims? Where's the proof of that?
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>>77816008
Is this real life?
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>>77840464
Someone compiled the actirs yesterday but this guy was listed in some of crisis' films cast list before they erased him from IMDB
http://m.imdb.com/name/nm3483499/
He was also on Megyn Kelly's talking about how he locked the doors

And Omar Mateen was in 2 films on IMDB too but I doubt he is listed in the credits anymore

This doesn't mean the whole thing was fake but it does mean this "event" is being used to heavily manipulate the public
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>>77824511
Why would they leave Easter eggs though?
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>>77842644
that was the guy who held the doors shut! i knew he looked familiar!!1!!!11!!111
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>>77842677
Guilt I guess.
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Saying this was fake doesn't make any sense, the attack only helped Trump which is the exact opposite of what the people in power want. If they wanted to do a fake attack the shooter would be a white supremacist shooting up a mexican club or something.
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Glad to see posts from last night's thread copied and pasted here.

Let's not forget based Canadabro:
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>>77837663
Some good points in there about the doctors, but crisis actors could just be media hamming stories up for more drama, and there's a whole lotta loaded questions in there.
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>>77843346
read this
>>77821838
>>77822656
Make sense?
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>>77837663
I did look up Michael L. Cheatham and he does have an NPI number. In pharmacy, we use these all the time for insurance claims. I don't know how easy it would or wouldn't be to falsify one, but he does at least have one.
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>>77816008
>>77816008
do you know what confirmation bias is?
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>>77821459
Look kids. Here is how to spot a shill.
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>>77843439
I wasn't here for that thread, but I came to a similar possibility >>77839451
Remember that if they insert crisis actors at the end of it as fake victims, they aren't putting the actors in harm's way- so they don't have to pay as much.

>>77843336

That jeopardizes the story, though- I guess it might be to feed some inconclusive evidence to controlled opposition types, and then the controlled opposition is also convinced to support crazy shit like chemtrails or flat earth in order to equate questioning the narrative about controlled events/false flags with certifiably insane things, thereby getting the normies to disregard anyone who doesn't believe the narrative as a crackpot.
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>>77844399
>That jeopardizes the story, though
Yeah well as evil as what they're participating in doing may be, you gotta remember these are, afterall, human beings behind it all. CBA to link back to it now but I believe the guy you were initially talking to before I interjected said that leaving clues would be exactly what he would have done. As far as I can tell that's what he was getting at.

>>77844399
>crazy shit like chemtrails
My friend, geoengineering and weather modification has been science fact for decades. I hate to be the one to break this to you but you have been severely mislead by disinfo if you think that's "crazy shit." Don't take my word for it though, a quick search will provide plenty of evidence to convince you otherwise.
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>>77844399
>in order to equate questioning the narrative about controlled events/false flags with certifiably insane things, thereby getting the normies to disregard anyone who doesn't believe the narrative as a crackpot.
Also, congratulations: you just pretty much summed up the "'crazy conspiracy theorist' conspiracy," which uses those same methods you described to discredit people like /pol/. And it is also why everyone should hear alarm bells going off when we see particular flavors of certain types of topics, be it a given conspiracy about X or Y -- but not Z, even though Z might be identical to the others in theory -- being relegated to the depths of /x/.

I'm getting off on a tangent I feel, so I'll leave it at that. I hope that makes sense.
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Has anyone forwarded this list of links to any news agency?

By "news agency," I mean "real news agency."
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>>77845502
Pointless.
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>>77845701
You don't think there are any out there at all outside of the mainstream that would legitimately cover these discrepancies? What bout Breitbart?
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>>77846790
Oh, well that's possible. Sure.

>>77845502
>By "news agency," I mean "real news agency."
I didn't know what you meant by this at first.
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>>77817642
I'll bump you :3
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>>77821838
Bump
And read this post. Stop arguing sides and think for yourself
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>>77816500
it's spooky, but we don't have organized humans that impressive yet unfortunately. martial law would lead to our stupid dropout soldiers rebelling against the government, pockets of resistance from every side(govt, military, civilian, third party). people think US soldiers and the government always means 1 faction.

even if it was everyone vs us civvies, all it takes is one bad guy to die, his weapon stolen and used to kill another bad guy whose weapon is given to another civvie, repeat until they start stealing vehicles and until they all get wiped out which will start again by another guerrilla somewhere else. the only shitty part is that all of us here are comfy as fuck and don't want to fight right now, but if our comfiness is taken then obviously we're gonna have to.

the plan is to make global despair that only the US can save, then everyone clings to Americans and willingly allows us to become a world empire. anything else is just a repeat of history.
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Remember the photos of Mateen's father outside Hillary Clinton's office?

What if this is a continuation of MKUltra?

Clinton was heavily involved, and the Jeffrey Epstein/Lolita Express break confirms it, at least in my mind..
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>>77829944
plz more quotes
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>>77849600
What subject?
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>>77850422
(((Bankers)))
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>>77824848
>The FBI accidentally left Mateen's apartment unsecured and media was able to come and go as they pleased less than 24 hours after the event.

am i having deja vu or did this happen with another mass shooter?
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>>77831307
yours has been doctored, heres the real one the reptilians dont WANT you to see
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>>77850567

San bernadino exact same fucking thing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxtXkoepqb4
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>>77850519
Based Jackson.
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>>77816500
>hot head productions

Gee, what kind of guy would kill himself and family. Maybe the kind who calls his own production company Hot Head Productions.
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>>77853023
That is the dumbest reverse conspiracy theory I have ever heard by a shill ever
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Kek, reminder that this fucking happened:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z45hI6YuC-I
I obviously don't need to point it out but I will just for fun:
>mostly due to structural failure because the heat from the fire was too intense
Not only that, but dat tone of his voice during that bit, too. God damn, if all of this wasn't so disconcerting this interview really would be a joke. How in the actual fuck have not more people seen this by now, and how could anyone who has seen it still hold on to their complete and total faith in the authorities? I can't believe that even after all this time, even in the face of common sense evidence like this video, or the existence of a website blatantly dedicated to the field of crisis acting, some people still refuse to accept that crisis acting is a thing that might actually be possible.
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>>77853023
Or perhaps he's wondering why someone would shoot his whole family before killing himself?
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>>77816008
fugg
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>>77824611
>sigh. back to actors. ok, did any actors die?

and there you go back in circle

you are either purposely unwilling to understand which is written (you could even read twice) or plain retarded

props to anon willing to explain to you even if its futile
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>>77828857
Amen.
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>>77829695
>lots of people who knew Omar are saying that he had issues. Anger issues, and issues with his own sexuality.

source?
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>>77816008
shit like this is what makes me frequent this cesspool of a board. Thank you for keeping /pol/ an educated place, saved the whole thread for future reference.
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>>77856093
Im glad Someone appreciates my autism adventures

It's better giving knowledge to men than, dick to women.
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>>77824868
>>77825013
>>77825223
> HOW MANY ACTORS DIED?
Autism in action.

>>77821459
Paid for and sold.
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>>77857594
What happens with that a Australian mass shootint? I heard that was a real suspicious story
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>>77826894Craigslist is thataway...
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