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EU referendum poll:
Remain: 45% (-4)
Leave: 55% (+4)
(via BMG, online / 10 - 15 Jun)
Excluding DKs.
EU referendum poll:
Remain: 53%
Leave: 47%
(via BMG, phone / 10 - 15 Jun)
Excluding DKs.
Phone showed remain ahead, online showed leave ahead. With undecideds excluded:
Online:
Remain: 41% (-3)
Leave: 51% (+6)
Telephone:
Remain: 46%
Leave: 43%
(10 - 15 Jun)
>>77685665
slide it
#YouAin'tNoBrexiterBruv
DEATH TO TRAITORS, FREEDOM FOR BRITAIN
First for cleanliness.
DEATH TO TRAITORS, FREEDOM FOR BRITAIN
>>77685665
>thinking Brexit will happen
Wow it seems /pol/ is even more stupid than I thought
LET IN EVERY REFUGEE
THROW THE TORIES IN THE SEA
Basically in the past couple years every time I've argued with a libcuck I've always appealed to some kind of OH YEAH WELL U KEEP SAYING THAT AND PPL ARE GONNA START GETTIN DROPPED SON, PEOPLE WILL RISE UP AND SAIL DOWN A RIVER OF TRAITOR BLOOD and now this guy's done it at a pretty bad fucking time
>>77685707
DEATH TO TRAITORS FREEDOM FOR BRILLO PADS
>>77685665
I DARE YOU TO LEAVE EU
YOUR MIND IS A SLAVE MIND - THE SAME KIND OF MIND THAT FRENCH HAVE
YOU WILL NEVER LEAVE YOUR GERMAN MASTERS AND LEAVE EU
>MFW REMAIN WINS
ENJOY 50 YEARS OF SLAV AND AFRICAN """""REFUGEES"""""
>>77685665
all they need to do is keep playing the "brexit is evil" propaganda until the referendum day then rig the result
https://twitter.com/KojoRTE/status/743858530281791488
>>77685722
>We don't support these radicals!
>But you should probably do what they say!
A truth when it's Islam, a truth when it's Brexit.
This guy just had the balls to do what every bitter little Brexiter secretly wants to do.
Wouldn't surprise me if they find Brit/pol/ in his internet history.
JO COX BIRTHDAY IS ON 22nd
YOU CANT MAKE THIS SHIT UP ROFL
>Funeral could be a day before the referendum
WE ARE GOING TO BE JEWED
>LIVE COVERAGE
>MUH CHILDREN
>MUH COMING TOGETHER
Woman vote has been lost
Post your dank Brillos lads.
>>77685870
Funeral before Brexit vote.
The Remain Train has no brakes.
Federalisation soon.
>>77685665
Is Brexit over with that false flag?
Should I even bother to check the results?
DEATH TO BRITAIN, FREEDOM FOR TRAITORS
(jk gchq)
>>77685968
Here's a rare pic of the brexit assassin
>SAVE GREAT BRITAIN
>tfw you know that there are no more democratic solutions to the problems we face
Still for brexiting, but only because it pisses of the right people.
>>77685822
They're commandeering our military next mate. How do you think they're going to use it? To force Poland to take their refugee quota.
>>77685937
>Leave moves ahead in the polls for the first time
>Bilderberger Group emergency summit last week
>autistic white nationalist murders Remainian MP whose birthday and funeral will be the day before the referendum whilst shouting "Britain First"
>PURE COINCIDENCE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9RG7NYQa8k
>>77685665
>Leave: 51% (+6)
Britain. You are ruining my plan for a new Reich here. Join the Euro. Cannot see its force?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYKPdNvH800
My family can't leech income if you brexit.
>>77685973
Yes. It was 50/50 before Leave assassinated a Remain MP, now it's swung towards a Remain vote on the 23rd.
Is David going mental?
Someone kill the cunt before he damages Brexit any further.
>>77686037
"pisses off"
>go into polling booth to vote Leave
>there's pictures of Jo Cox's children on the door on the way in
>>77686080
Is that real?
Why didn't you just sterilize all chavs and neanderthals in the 30s and the 40s? People like him and BF are poison to real nationalists
>>77686040
It doesn't matter anymore desu ;_;
>>77686112
TOP
Kek
Lads.
Even if Remain wins, the referendum has opened a Pandora's Box for Westminster. Now that there's free debate without (much) repression by the left about immigration and border policy then even a Remain outcome won't change that. Roughly half of the voting population will probably still want out of the EU. Party leaders will be chosen because of whether or not most of their voting members and they agree on the EU.
There's no end to the migrant crisis, Mediterranean Europe unemployment won't get better, there's a Eurozone crisis incoming, the EU is massively in debt and net migration will continue to get oucontrol. Things will not get better in any regard, and if this government doesn't have to have a leadership contest after the result then future ones will as EU crises hit.
This referendum is only the start. If we don't leave then the issue will not be settled in any way. Things would get worse but we won't start accepting migration figures, immigration, or erosion of our sovereignty anymore just because just over half voted for that.
This is even worse if they DIDN'T false flag rig this shit, because it REALLY makes it look like they did, so if Remain now wins, there is going to be a significant section of the population who will understand the event as a Stab-In-The-Back myth whereby Mandelson or whoever and his Bildberberg MKULTRA Rothschild cronies used insane state apparatus to continue wielding power.
>>77686080
>>77686132
Not real.
>>77685665
This feels like a massive false flag. What he did makes no sense whatsoever.
>>77686040
EU Army would be a unified command of national battlegroups, nations would still have their own armies.
An EU Army would be no more capable of being used to bully nations than the current EU is, it'll just make EU militaries more capable of cooperation and unified deployment.
It's literally just NATO: Yurup Edition, which hasn't enabled the USA to invade other NATO states has it?
>>77686080
Hard to "drive out division" when you're constantly importing hundreds of thousands of people who are indissolubly different from us.
>He thinks the vote will be close after Jo Cox
I hope you don't do this lads. We've been fucked.
They CAN rig it now and blame extremism. Think about it.
>>77686080
Is this real? Someone tweet him how disgustig it is to use a woman's death to push his political agenda
Flag just arrived in the post lads, going to give it an iron later on can't be having a creased flag now can we.
MADMAN
@campbellclaret: The freedom Britain needs is freedom from a nasty Brexit Lie Machine run by tax dodgers and multi-millionaire liars fuelling anger and hate
Anyone else's brexit folder filled up with literally hundreds of pictures of brillo pads?
On /r/unitedkingdom the top story (130 upvotes) is about Tommy Mair giving his name as "My name is death to traitors, freedom for Britain".
But the story about the Calderdale gang of 15 muslims grooming and raping white girls that came out yesterday only got 42 upvotes and never reached the top.
Interesting, as the media seek to portray Tommy Mair as a cogent racist, how locals tell of his mental problems and all round erraticness.
https://twitter.com/RaheemKassam/status/744086694085955584
>>77686112
>go into polling booth to spoil ballot paper
>there's smarmy cardboard cutouts of politicians in cheesy poses on the door on the way in
>>77686256
BAN THAT FLAG
RACIST SCUM
so... this is how it ends huh...
What's even the point anymore? Just blow us up already.
>>77685665
Remain is winning. Online polls are filled with sad brexiters samefagging
Phone polls are real and more accurate because you can't fake a phone call
>>77686294
mate the subreddit and entire website is controlled by reality denying leftists, why are you surprised or even posting this
I got banned on ukpolitics yesterday for saying the SPLC is run by Jews. the ENTIRE site is a DEAD FUCKING END. don't waste any effort giving it clicks or views or attention.
>>77685665
>Phone showed remain ahead, online showed leave ahead.
Yfw Tommy Mair created the shy brexiteer phenomenon.
If you had a button in front of you that makes a Brexit MP get assassinated before Thursday, would you press it?
>>77685981
DEATH TO FREEDOM, BRITAIN FOR TRAITORS
>>77686377
We will soon find out wont we.
>>77686309
Hi Jeremy
>>77685665
If you leave - financial crisis; Poland is economically fucked + long term fucked by Germans and refugees quota
If you stay - long term financial crisis (probably near 2018-2020), race war incoming, Poland fucked by Germans with refugee quotas
either way - Poland is fucked in the ass
>>77686197
Why should the actions and ramblings of nutcase make sense?
>>77686224
>>77686256
That looks really cheap.
>>77686167
>remain wins
>there is a huge recession anyway when the mediterranean debt crisis reaches breaking point
>the NHS is forced to disband due to pressure from a massive influx of economic migrants
>UKIP capitalizes and wins the next GE by a landslide
>>77686412
>Nigel is guaranteed safe
Y E S
E
S
>>77686224
When the EU federalises there will be no more nation states. That's the end game here, they OPENLY admit this. So one way or another we're handing this military power to an undemocratic government.
Find me one example in history where this hasn't lead to oppression.
> An EU Army would be no more capable of being used to bully nations than the current EU is
Were you not paying attention to what they're doing to Poland currently? Or what they did to Greece?
> It's literally just NATO: Yurup Edition, which hasn't enabled the USA to invade other NATO states has it?
Nobody opposes NATO because it's just cooperation between independent states. We oppose the EU because it's merging independent states. If the EU was like NATO and didn't presume to govern us and legislate for us, nobody would give a shit about it.
>>77686361
>UK schoolboys can wear skirts now
>and it's awesome
>New York Post
PURE COINCIDENCE.
>>77686309
Who ready to be a /Citizen of the North Sea Administrative Province/ here ?
>work on home improvement since early morning
>finish, shower, and open up the old tubebox to look at Brexit polls after the shooting
>52% Leave
>32% Remain
I love you bastards, I love you so much. This is going to happen isnt it? You are going to crash this Union with no Survivors.
Fuck I love you Britbongs.
>>77686423
When remain wins of course
>>77686444
That's the eternal pollock really isn't it mate
WE'RE GONNA DO IT LADS!! FUCK THE NAY SAYERS!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIl_BNIJcFg
>>77686472
i will hope it happens in Poland too since our current government doesn't want to leave EU ;_;
>>77686412
i'd dress up like Owen Jones and film myself pushing it
>>77686294
/r/unitedkingdom is in the top 5 most left-wing subreddits on reddit
>>77686444
on the bright side, you'll have the cleanest toilets in the world once the brits send all your countrymen back home
Anyone else hate this country?
When we remain those lefties in the universities will be our future.
>>77686555
>top 5
>555
Well there's no arguing with that then
>>77686264
>tax dodgers
>Boris Johnson's financial details reveal income of almost £2million for the past four years and tax payments adding up to more than £900,000.
>>77686535
pls just let me work in UK or Switzerland for three times greater money we get in here
>>77686492
America, thank God you're here!
You need to get ready to annex the UK if there's a Remain result. We'll be a good little dindus on your Atlantic archipelago and help build walls and go to church.
>>77686591
If we remain none of us will really be allowed on /pol/ anymore
>>77686591
it'll be alright mate
it'll be alright
>>77686256
Should've got a sown flag instead desu
>>77686591
wtf I hate life now
>>77686454
It was, but you can't put a price on love for your country anon.
>>77686531
Either that or you will be deported when they lose.
>>77686080
Shameful
If in the event Remain manage to fuck this referendum, We should have a registry of all the women who voted Remain and then if they report a rape or assault and it's by a refugee they don't help her, or even better make her live with the refugee
>>77686412
I'd happily kill George Galloway myself
I really hate shy Tories and shy brexiters.
It should be law to publicly reveal your vote. Then more people would vote labour and remain out of peer pressure.
Fucking cowards hiding behind anonymous voting
>>77686040
>Very long run
So what, 4 years?
>>77685665
Don't exclude DKs. No serious polling company excludes DKs even Britain Elects rejects anything without a DK option.
>>77686224
An EU army would fail in any case.
Firstly communication is going to be difficult due to language differences, particularly for the nations with fewer english speakers.
Secondly the ability to contribute manpower and materiel is going to be uneven across the EU leading to a couple of countries carrying the bulk of the weight anyway.
Thirdly and most importantly the EU does not really appeal to young men. "Go fight for our multinational empire that wants to replace you with a third world immigrant". No one is going to war for that, they will be scraping the bottom of the barrel for volunteers.
Finally it is the EU, they are going to enforce diversity quotas and other BS. It would likely be an ineffective fighting force anyway.
>>77686377
Phone polls are more likely to get bennies-dependent scroungers who love giving up freedom for bennies
>>77686597
She really will.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIElZoY6xoM
>>77686256
Looks nice m8
I've been flying my 7 foot flag out the window for weeks now
On a main road so everyone can see dat patriotism
>>77686629
I have a American proxy though for whenever a happening makes us look bad
>>77686702
Those are from Britain Elects; these latest ones excluded DKs.
>>77686692
>I put it to you, Mr. Farage, that you and the Leave campaign are fuelling hate with your rhetoric and are somewhat responsible for this horrific murder.
>>77686729
I want her to dominate me.
>>77686680
You shouldn't hate women because they're brainwashed easier anon
>>77686629
Just imagine all the idiots who will mock us for being "haha KEKS XDDDD". I hate it when idiots on this website celebrity and make fun of the increasing immigration/Leftism in nations. Short sighted and petty.
>People want to stay because we can reform EU
>We stay
>Can't reform EU
What will they think then?
We will never have another referendum
>>77686633
I know, I'll probably get a sown one and hang the polyester one out the window. I was going to wear this one into work on the 24th anyway
>>77686448
If Turkey is invaded by Russia, NATO would be obliged to defend them, so you'd end up fighting against British troops if you wanted to fight for Russia even without an EU Army.
>>77686482
That's the civil side of the EU that's using economic measures to coerce member states into action, it's no different from how the USA uses economic sanctions to bully other countries within it's sphere of influence, for example how they shut down Britain and France during the Suez Crisis, which crushed both nation's international reputations far worse than the EU's actions against Greece or their currently unsuccessful attempts against Poland have.
The EU Army concept is literally just a NATO for Europe at the moment, it's not even involving unified equipment or training yet, let alone a fully autonomous armed forces funded by the EU, it's just a natural evolution of the EU Battlegroup model that will allow the EU to present a unified front for security and peacekeeping operation.
Turning sovereign nations into federal states is so far off it's pointless to speculate since the global and European political situation will have changed drastically by then.
>>77686687
>tfw Proud Conservative/UKIP supporter
>tfw open Brexiter
Feels good man.
>>77686829
They'll stay silent and/or lie and claim they voted Leave.
So far I've just waited to see if any neighbours put up posters and only been ready to put up a Leave poster if I see a Remain one, but now I just want to buy a shitload of bunting, flags and Vote Leave posters. The good thing is there's also a lot of England and UK flags out at the moment for this Euros, so national sentiment sems really high.
If people see more of their local people are voting leave then they might be eases about their doubts or stop thinking it's something alien to them.
Think what you'd feel if you hear the results and Remain wins (and in your local area). We need to do more lads.
>>77686829
If they think we can reform it now I doubt they'll ever go back on that
>>77686729
>Priti will never peg your anus with a strapon
Why continue with this emptiness?
>>77686829
they are dumb as fuck and think the EU is like a pub where all our PMs get together and have a laugh whilst tackling climate change and poverty
Sent this to a scot who are getting butthurt at this
>>77686787
well mate, technically they're consenting to it by voting yes to refugees
>>77686829
Leaving is the only logical choice if they will never let us have another referendum. We can always rejoin, they would never say no. But I'm confident that we will do great on our own.
>>77686482
>Europe has one currency
Eurocrats are so delusional they refuse to admit the existence of the GREAT BRITISH POUND STERLING
>>77685665
People who are an insignificant minority.
>concern trolls
>shameless lefties using murder to score political points for a floundering agenda
>people who actually care
>>77686957
and Polish Zlotny, Swedish Kroner, Danish Kroner
When do the new polls come out, lads?
>>77686687
fuck you, secret ballot is a cornerstone of democracy
>>77686256
>inb4 iron melts your cheapo polyester flag
>Post YFW "Death to traitors, freedom for Britain"
Has anyone got any Corbyn anti EU quotes or Eurosceptic quotes?
Good night and doge bless
why's everyone akkin like the we're finished?
>>77687049
Mr Corbyn has expressed Eurosceptic arguments in the past - in 1993, he spoke out against the Maastricht Treaty which established the European Union and moved towards economic and political union.
The treaty, Mr Corbyn said, "takes away from national parliaments the power to set economic policy and hands it over to an unelected set of bankers who will impose the economic policies of price stability, deflation and high unemployment throughout the European Community".
He voted against the Lisbon Treaty in 2008, and in one article on his website, said the EU had "always suffered a serious democratic deficit".
>>77687047
We could've won with a landslide using logic and reason, but nooo...
>>77687033
>He doesn't know how to iron polyester without melting it
m8
>>77687102
Gee I wonder.
>>77687049
He made a speech a week or so ago where he basically laid out a load of reasons why the EU is shit and then begrudgingly supported it.
>>77686707
>Firstly communication is going to be difficult due to language differences
Hasn't stopped NATO. Teaching soldiers a lingua franca isn't difficult, look at the FFL, and only senior officers need to be bilingual. EU Battlegroups are national, individual soldiers don't need to all speak multiple languages.
>Secondly the ability to contribute manpower and materiel is going to be uneven across the EU leading to a couple of countries carrying the bulk of the weight anyway.
Again, NATO works fine despite the USA, France and Britain carrying the bulk of the military power.
>Thirdly and most importantly the EU does not really appeal to young men.
You wouldn't sign up to the EU, you sign up to your national army and your national government assigns entire units to EU Battlegroup taskings. You're still fighting for you country, just with European allies with a unified command.
>Finally it is the EU, they are going to enforce diversity quotas and other BS.
Same as above, the unit's composition is down to the contributing member state, not the EU, the state contributes X number of complete units, not 8,000 random soldiers.
>>77687047
Boris will snap and follow suit
rip
Well, what are we going to do on our final day on /pol/? [spoiler]Still going to try and help win this shit[/spoiler]
>>77686992
aren't all those countries signed up to eventually join the Euro though?
>>77687102
cuz the media are gonna go into hyperdrive shill mode for the next week over this shit
>>77685665
>5 days to the referendum and I just arrived in Australia
>Was flying for 2 days and missed the MP assassination false flag
I'm going to cry when I miss all the LEAVE victory celebrations, but at least I know the Australians support LEAVE too.
>>77686868
I don't think I've ever seen such a blatant one. Explained what a false flag was to my wife. Her response: "oh yea, like 9/11!".
>>77686891
> That's the civil side of the EU that's using economic measures to coerce member states into action
So you admit you're wrong about the EU's bullying.
> The EU Army concept is literally just a NATO for Europe at the moment
They admit in clear language that they want a federal Europe. It will certainly take them a decade or so because they do things slowly in increments so as to not upset the public too much. That's how we went from a trade arrangement to the full blown political union we have today in 30 years, all without any public consent. Where is it going to be 30 years from now?
The end result will be something resembling the Soviet Union. An anti-democratic superstate oppressing the shit out of the European people. Why anyone would choose that over a free and democratic society is utterly lost on me.
http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/865
Convince me to keep using Kikebook.
>>77687102
idk it's still not much of a thing really.
>"what's your name?"
>"DeAtH tO TrAiTErs, FREEdOm 4 BrItaIn"
not exactly gonna convince anyone he was acting rational
emotional appeals can't sway things too far and too much of a push just pisses people off.
for most it's a literally who killing a literally who.
>>77686868
>Lock up dissidents
Seems tolerant
>>77686629
Allowed on /pol/?
I hope they bomb us.
>>77687212
Shitpost until one by one British flags all disappear. Then we find a lonely coastline from which we can cast ourselves into the sea.
>that opening statement
Yeah this is an obvious false flag - especially considering now his neighbours are all saying how peaceful he was prior
1910
>>77687196
>OR PERHAPS HE'S WONDERING WHY SOMEONE WOULD SHOOT AN MP BEFORE TRYING TO WIN A REFERENDUM
>>77687196
If I vote #Remain will Britain Die ?
>>77687270
>>77686629
If they vote to remain I will leave /pol/
I will also leave the UK and go back to nature, living off the land and appreciating true freedom
>>77687262
>One had mental issues and handed himself in
>One had Muslim issues and made a video with the blood on himself and the knives he used to hack someone to death in the middle of the street
I'm sure if this bloke had hacked her to death and made a video with blood on his hands he would have also had that picture used.
Did you all get your free BREXIT posters?
>>77685774
>Denounces Britain
>too cucked to remove our flag from his own
So I just need one argument to not make the wrong decision here
If I vote brexit and it brexit happens. When would the UK off. leave the EU?
Would it be within a few weeks or would it take a few years?
I am asking as my current education is still under bologna and I wont vote to fuck my career over
Just tell me it takes time at least 2017+ so I can vote brexit pls...
>>77687262
>Using facebook in 20XX
>>77687375
>All white cast
Disgusting whitewash.
What we all watching lads?
>>77687186
>the UK is now the equivalent of a dukedom in a feudal system
>>77687186
It's us versus the world. Europe will never, ever give up on it's addiction to building grotesque tyrannical byzantine political cthulhus. NO ALLIES FOR THE ANGLO SAXONS BUT CELTIC BRITONS. We've got nukes. We don't need ANYONE else.
I know there have been a billion of these threads, and as an American my opinion isn't worth much; however, I must, after copious investigation and hundreds of hours of dredging through tepid streams of propaganda say. I stand beside England and her probable evacuation from the European Union! Send them back your fierce defiant stamp upon their cursed alliance. Remind the whole of the civilized world who her author is, and what lies in wait for whenever Mob or Monarch lays to rued a hand on English ways!
>>77687389
>>77687404
fucking kek
>>77687375
>tfw if we simply renewed the Anglo-Japanese alliance all those years ago none of this would have happened
>>77687448
It'll take two to five years to come into action.
>>77687448
people are saying atleast 2 years to leave.
>>77686868
Maybe I have just gone off the deep end but this seems so much like a false flag, and I've never bought into conspiracy theories before
>Leave ahead in the polls
>A week before the referendum
>Neo-Nazi shoots an attractive remain campaigner MP.
>Her birthday is a day before the referendum
>She was on the Thames campaigning for Remain just a day before
>With a makeshift gun with reloads (not easy to make)
>In a country where the number of shootings per year can be counted with one hand
>Nazi memorabilia found in shooters house (Even Breivik didn't have Nazi memorabilia)
>Literally says "Death to traitors, Freedom for Britian"
Realistically it's most likely not a false flag, but if I were a lizardman or whoever is meant to be behind conspiracy theories I couldn't have set up a better false flag.
told a liberal londoner who lives here that I hope brexit fails so england gets raped by muslims and the isis flag is blown atop the big bong
he got mad wtf. I thought that's what stayers want :/
Are there many prominent Scottish MPs for Leave? We need Scotland to start supporting Leave. We're that desperate.
>>77687212
shitpost then blow our brains out to the strains of "Rule Britannia"
>>77687519
>>77687527
thx Brexit it is.
call me spineless but I ain't stupid I can sort things out before 2 years at least
even if we lose the referendum lads, the harder the EU pushes the more people push back. The EU refuses to reform so eventually it will snap.
>>77687495
Beautiful multicultural society
Such diversity
>>77687186
Maintaining national sovereignty is counter to the objectives of the EU. The EU imposes legislation, top-down onto member states.
>the unit's composition down to the contributing
member state
What makes you think they will allow this level of autonomy going forward?
>you sign up to your national army
No. You sign up within the geographic region of your prior nation state. The entire purpose for an EU army is that command would be centralized somewhere else. Maybe you still have your countries flag on your shoulder but your nation is no longer sovereign.
>>77687519
>2 to 5 years
2 at most. That's the maximum time allowed in the treaties to get our shit together before cutting off entirely.
>>77687448
I saw people saying 2 year timeline, not sure if that's correct
>>77687546
Whether it's a false flag or not we need to drop this line of thinking and push that the man was mentally ill. 'false flag' doesn't play well with most people.
>>77687216
Not Denmark. Sweden intentionally disqualify themselves from joining and the 2 national referendums have been keep our own currency.
>>77687212
>look at this evil nazi goyim, you wouldn't want to be like him...right?
>just ignore the low IQ radicalised sunni males of fighting age marching in endless columns across the open borders of Europe behind him
>>77687519
>>77687448
>>77687527
Sooner than that lads, looky here
http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/680897/Eu-laws-referendum-Germany-Brexit
>>77687546
>Neo-Nazi shoots an attractive remain campaigner MP.
>Attractive
She looks like a tranny in about 1/3 of her pics
>>77687519
>>77687527
>>77687448
Article 50.
1. Any Member State may decide to withdraw from the Union in accordance with its own constitutional requirements.
2. A Member State which decides to withdraw shall notify the European Council of its intention. In the light of the guidelines provided by the European Council, the Union shall negotiate and conclude an agreement with that State, setting out the arrangements for its withdrawal, taking account of the framework for its future relationship with the Union. That agreement shall be negotiated in accordance with Article 218(3) of the Treaty on the Functioning of the European Union. It shall be concluded on behalf of the Union by the Council, acting by a qualified majority, after obtaining the consent of the European Parliament.
3. The Treaties shall cease to apply to the State in question from the date of entry into force of the withdrawal agreement or, failing that, two years after the notification referred to in paragraph 2, unless the European Council, in agreement with the Member State concerned, unanimously decides to extend this period.
4. For the purposes of paragraphs 2 and 3, the member of the European Council or of the Council representing the withdrawing Member State shall not participate in the discussions of the European Council or Council or in decisions concerning it.
A qualified majority shall be defined in accordance with Article 238(3)(b) of the Treaty on the Functioning of the European Union.
5. If a State which has withdrawn from the Union asks to rejoin, its request shall be subject to the procedure referred to in Article 49.
Pollstation vote. Leave at 81% with an impressive 133,720 votes cast so far. Add yours.
http://www.pollstation.uk/eu-referendum/poll/
>>77687669
Well, attractive by MP standards, most MPs are quite old after all.
The silent majority in Germany stands with the defenders of a free and independent Britain. The Euro has brought the German working class nothing but demise. We wish we could follow where you're going, and if the time comes, we will. Do not believe the shills.
stupid
>"Death to traitors, freedom for Britain"
Okay, this lad is a terrorist.
>mfw lefties will think that because this guy is a terrorist, Islamists aren't because their brains are just that simple
>>77687780
New Japanese Empire when?
>>77685665
I want concern shills and doomsayers to fuck off already.
>>77687742
only open to uk, sorry britbro
>>77687845
Now.
>>77686618
You can clean one of my toilets any time m9
>>77687780
(((American))) detected
A Nipponese would recognize why Britain doesn't want to become the mainland's lackey. In case you're actually Japanese, would you appreciate it if China usurped the Japanese state?
>>77687837
Yeah this is annoying me too
He obviously is a terrorist by all definitions, but fuck me that doesn't excuse Islamists.
Its amazing how desperate they are for this guy to be held to the same standard as a guy who slaughtered 50 gay people. Like they are literally jumping to his defense in doing so
>>77686361
I wore a skirt to secondary school in year 11 once. Just to make a point about how the shcool uniform policy didn't specify male or female.
bongs will never ever be allowed to leave th eu. enjoy your false flags
>>77687186
>still fighting for your country
Under German or French command
>>77687448
According to international law, all rights accrued under treaty do not expire if that treaty expires. Brexit will not affect one single British ex-pat or EU migrant in the UK. But it will stop 80 million turks moving to Luton.
>>77687984
we know. another country will have to get the ball rolling.
what does terrorist even mean m8s
he's not a terrorist, he's just a guy
was john wilkes booth a fucking terrorist? no he wasn't he was just a top lad
New polls when?
ANDREW NEIL DOES IT AGAIN
>>77687654
These refugee welcomers do not speak for us
>>77688021
If we remain and Turkey join, I'm killing myself before we get flooded with roaches.
hjgfdjyr
>>77687594
You're talking about federalisation which is way, way in the future.
It's the ultimate goal of the EU sure but none of what you're describing is on the cards for the current EU Army negotiations.
The EU Army will be national, battalion-sized units uder a centralised EU command echelon.
Regardless of whether you agree with the final goal of federalisation, in the short term, an EU Army does nothing except increase the interoperatability of the UK's armed forces and the resources available to our individual soldiers.
The UK Armed Forces aren't capable or willing to do unilateral deployments anymore, we just don't have the troop numbers, our options are NATO, an EU Army or reordering the UKAF into a defence force and withdrawing from expeditionary warfare entirely.
Of the three, my opinion is that the EU Army represents the best security for Britain in the near future, because of our geographic, trade and political position with Europe, cooperation with them is preferential to continuing reliance on the USA via NATO, which is starting to make noises of a retreat back to the isolationist policies it's held through most of it's history if Trump's popularity is anything to go by. Just look at how deeply unpopular the USA's foreign commitment of troops in Europe is with Murican /pol/lacks.
Well, all hopes of brexit died when that fucking nutter turned out to be a right wing mentalist
Lads is globalisation really as bad as we think? I mean if we garner ebough good goy points, they might give us decent sex bots, thus making anime real. Clean buttocks and all
mi5 supplied the gun and bullets and planted evidence
most obvious false flagging in history
>>77688075
Based Andrew Neil
>>77688075
HE'S ONE OF OUR OWN
>>77688075
Based Andy
>>77688141
No it fucking didn't. Stop spreading negativity, it hasn't impacted on Brexit.
Thomas Mair is top trending in on twitter here in Gothenburg in Sweden.
The UK media are shilling hard I guess.
>>77688072
**NEW POLL**
LEAVE: 0%
REMAIN: 0%
DONALD TRUMP: 100%
Source: american dream.
>>77687611
European Union law guy here. The two-year negotiation mechanism only enters into force the moment your government formally invokes the article. If the government wants to, this can be delayed by several years so that proper negotiations can be conducted and both sides can prepare for the change in their financial situation.
But be careful, because they could pull the same trick the Dutch government pulled back in April and just postpone invoking the article indefinitely.
>>77688182
Globalisation wouldn't be so bad if the world were so advanced that nobody needed jobs anymore, mate. Or if the world had one language and one culture.
>>77688182
lads, maybe the EU is for the best. having unelected leaders is clearly better than having these loony remain voters ruling us
>>77688075
B A S E D
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>>77688075
k e k
>>77687654
>>77687948
>Express
A less useful source of real news than used bogroll.
>>77688021
Not quite true. Moggy is right Article 50 of the Vienna Convention will apply but that only works for 2 years (not indefinitely) in order to not 'excite' the market and cause large upsets. We'd no longer be required to follow it after that as far as I'm aware. Of course being not being required to do it doesn't mean we won't.
>>77687742
Rigged. Never used this website and yet it says I've already voted
Holy shit I had no idea Based Andy was the chairman of the Spectator.
>>77688141
Don't give up yet many people are disgusted by remain for using it so blatantly and Leave camp will have a good few days to turn it to their favoring.
Lads, I've started having impure thoughts about remaining. Anyone know how I can cure myself before it becomes full-on leftism?
>>77688129
> withdrawing from expeditionary warfare entirely.
What's wrong with this? Why do we need to be out there bombing Syrians? It's not our problem.
A federal Europe will lead to war with Russia. Don't be complaining when you're conscripted to die in the winter invasion of Russia by order of the unelected commission.
>>77688182
I actually support Globalisation as a principle, but it has to be done absolutely perfectly and is not something that can be done in the short term.
The EU is an attempt towards globalisation thats gone on a wonky tangent and failed.
You can still be a globalist and want the best interests of your nation at heart
When are the Saturday polls out?
Exclusive poll: EU support falls after Jo Cox murder
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/06/17/usa-today-exclusive-eu-support-falls-jo-cox-murder/
>>77688129
>The UK Armed Forces aren't capable or willing to do unilateral deployments anymore, we just don't have the troop numbers, our options are NATO, an EU Army or reordering the UKAF into a defence force and withdrawing from expeditionary warfare entirely.
We've got nukes. Pull up the drawbridge. Call back the navy to territorial waters. And FORTRESS BRITAIN.
>>77688326
You probably voted through an independent article mate I think it's the same one they've got
If people are free today, they should contact their local Vote Leave campaign office and ask if they're doing any leafleting. I got an e-mail last night saying they were doing it in my town so I'm about to go do some for a few hours.
>>77688361
go walk around london and imagine your entire country like that
>>77688315
t. Guardian Internet Defence Force
>tfw when all we had to do was unite, and we could have created the greatest civilisation of all time
>>77688405
I thought they were out at 11am?
>>77688406
This is before "Death to traitors".
CAN THINGS STOP HAPPENING NOW? IT'S RUINING MUH POLLS.
>>77688361
Watch this
https://youtu.be/87Xkr8z3lEo
>>77688405
Should be 10pm when Sunday paper headlines are released
>>77688261
Of course it has. The general public, especially those undecided, will associate that cunt with us and dismiss the idea of leaving as a far right insane move.
The lefty media will spin this to slander us, already happened with the Guardian. I'm not even going to look at social media to see how the SNP are spinning it. Its over.
>>77688075
BASED.
>>77688361
Just stab yourself in the neck now and get it over with. Once you get bitten by a vampire it's only a matter of time before you become one. I say this out of love, lad.
>>77688465
Don't be silly, it was totally worth it to not pay that tea tax :^)
>>77688361
Have an official European Commission video, you mad cunt.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_jRjPl9iRQ
>>77688141
Grow some fucking balls and stop being defeatist. Wars aren't won with pessimism.
>>77688465
>Act of Union 1707
>>77688075
Does anyone give a shit about Alistair Campbell any more?
For a notoriously unpleasant man calling the Brexit brigade 'nasty' and 'liars' is pretty rich
>>77688465
Shut up and carry on.
I reckon only nutters take notice of other nutters.
>>77687212
Vote Leave will be delivering "reminder leaflets" to the plebs who might forget about the referendum. You should get in touch with your local group to help out.
>>77688567
Free bonus: an official European Parliament video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4PvZSGbd8E
>>77688525
>that Remain propaganda
Explain yourself.
>>77688141
>Muslim kills 50 latinos in a gay night club in a swing state during ramadan while pledging allegiance to ISIS, with a bomb and shouting Allahu Akbar
>Trumps poll numbers drop
You really overestimate how much of an effect this shit has, when he turned out to be Muslim we all thought Trump had won but he seems to have lower polling vs Clinton now than before, this guy being a right wing mentalist will not definitely swing the vote to REMAIN.
>>77688567
>turkey
>part of europe
Kek
>>77685665
Is there any before / after polls to see the impact of Jo Cox murder?
I shorted the market because I believe Brexit would win but I didnt expect that a pro remain would be killed by an extremist ...
>>77688620
Oh, man, here's another one. The most recent European Commission video, uploaded yesterday.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZ2xHF7NJmY
>>77688731
They're working on it. Especially Merkel.
>>77688449
If it were from the Times, or the Telegraph, or yes the Guardian, or even the Sun, or Mail perhaps. But the Express? They just make shit up.
>>77688613
Remain dig up the most pathetic irrelevant 'celebs' to further their cause
>>77688361
The EU is the final form of globalist, anti-nationalist, open borders, mass immigration ideology. It is not just part of the problem when it comes to RoW immigration. It is the source of the problem.
What do you see when you look at Nigel Farage's refugee poster. An evil fear-mongering nazi, like the media's trying to spin it? Or the horde of radical sunni males marching in endless columns across the open borders of Europe behind him?
Do you have any idea how many muslims are in Brussels, the capital city of the EU? I don't, because they are burying the data. But ten years ago in 2006 it was 25%.
At the start of the current year, Salah Abdeslam was the most recognisable and wanted face in the Western world. He lived openly in his old Brussels neighbourhood for four months during that time.
In the last year, Germany, the EU's largest power, has literally imported 1.5 million fighting age muslim males and set them loose on its own people, as well as trying and failing to spread them around the whole of Europe with migrant quotas enforced with the threat of economic sanctions.
Turkey will one inevitable day accede to the EU, giving 80 million turks free movement across the whole EU, creating a borderless landbridge from the wild frontiers of Syria to the streets your children play on.
Are you ok with all this?
>>77688762
>Jo Cox death: 'Dirty Tricks' by MI5
>>77688762
Like most news papers doesn't just make shit up right.
>>77688363
>What's wrong with this?
Nothing inherently, it just means we'll have significantly reduced international influence. Which will have effects on trade and our security cooperation with other nations. Personally I don't support isolationism but 'scrap the nukes, close the borders, disband the army, ignore happenings entirely' is a valid course of action but not one that I'd ever support.
>A federal Europe will lead to war with Russia.
Why exactly? The EU includes two nuclear powers, any direct engagement with Russian forces is unlikely and would be extremely limited. On top of that, NATO is squaring off against Russia at the moment anyway, so whether we're dragged into it by the Americans or Europe really doesn't make much of a difference, other than that our foreign policy is more closely aligned with Europe than the USA because if it all goes tits up, Europe don't have the Atlantic ocean to hide behind so they're less likely to start something since they've more to lose.
>>77688426
If we isolate ourselves, challenges to our permanent membership in the UNSC will be swift in coming as China and Russia attempt to weaken the USA's control over it, likewise, we'll find ourselves more vulnerable to international calls to disarm if we're political isolate ourselves. A nation as dependant on trade as us, would not hang on to it's nukes for long if it detatched itself from both the EU and NATO.
>>77688752
>I shorted the market because I believe Brexit would win but I didnt expect that a pro remain would be killed by an extremist ...
I don't think any of us really thought they'd go this far to keep us in. Postal vote rigging? Yes. Electoral fraud? Of course! Ignoring the non-binding referendum and offering us a second one? Absolutely!
But a false flag assassination? Holy shit. We've got them scared. This is the highest level of shilling. Campaigning has started again today, leave will always win on that front. 5 days to go, it's still ours to lose.
>>77688627
>Remain propaganda
>patronisingly accusing people of being thick as pig shit, racist and unable to think for themselves
I don't think it's much of a vote winner mate.
>>77685665
>10-15 June
>day before the murder
Toppest of keks.
>>77688333
Trips of truth
IMF admits eurozone is 'failing' and on 'brink of collapse'
>Still insists Britain stays part of the political union that props up the Euro
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3647683/IMF-issues-warning-saying-eurozone-weak-brink-collapse-insists-shouldn-t-vote-out.html
>>77688762
>muh Princess Di
Why the fuck do people STILL talk about her as if she was god's gift?
>>77686729
I wonder if her arsehole tastes like curry.
>>77689071
I have never met anyone who does.
!!!ATTENTION EVERYBODY!!!
SHILL THESE HASHTAGS ON TWITTER. IT IS VITAL WE KNOCK "FREEDOM FOR BRITAIN" OFF THE TRENDING LIST.
EVEN IF YOU DON'T CARE OR KNOW ABOUT THE HASHTAGS, SHILL THEM. THE LESS PEOPLE THAT SEE THE FREEDOM FOR BRITAIN TAG THE BETTER
>>77688439
>>77688522
>>77688567
>>77688817
Thanks lads. Plenty to think about there and I hope I can use it to get better.
>>77688539
I'll keep it in mind but I think I'll stick around for a while longer just to add one more to the leave tally. I'd sooner do it than vote remain.
>>77688897
> Which will have effects on trade and our security cooperation with other nations.
How do Germany and Japan, both bigger players in international trade than us, both with much weaker military power, manage this?
I don't support isolationism either. But I think we can get by with our current level of military investment. It's plenty to protect our interests and make a bigger contribution to global security than we're morally obligated to.
>>77688897
>the UNSC
DID SOMEBODY SAY COVENANT
>>77688897
>If we isolate ourselves, challenges to our permanent membership in the UNSC will be swift in coming as China and Russia attempt to weaken the USA's control over it, likewise, we'll find ourselves more vulnerable to international calls to disarm if we're political isolate ourselves. A nation as dependant on trade as us, would not hang on to it's nukes for long if it detatched itself from both the EU and NATO.
The British Armed forces have sworn allegiance to the Queen.
>I do swear that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II, her heirs and successors, according to law. So help me God.
Fighting for a star in someone else's empire that has usurped her sovereignty is TREASON.
Was Cox death the ultimate sacrifice a human could gave, to remain in the EU?
>>77688761
Danke Makrele
>>77688897
Why can't we just isolate ourselves to the commonwealth though? Why not? We have incredible historic ties and will only be on friendly terms with them
>>77689151
I'm not even going to bother mate
>>77689187
United Nations Security Council m8. Not Space Command.
>>77688936
Hypocrite
>>77689066
That's because Brexit will further destabilise the euro, the failure of the euro might end the EU and the break up of the EU would lead to instability in Europe and European instability isn't benefitial to anyone, especially Britain since we're heavily reliant on Europe trade.
>>77689066
The economic scare tactics is the only thing remain has to rely on. If those arguments start cracking they'll have no hope.
>>77689151
What's even the point? It's all over the BBC and papers
>>77685792
Is there ever a good time?
>>77685774
We gotta try senpai. We gotta try.
>>77689151
Wouldn't "freedom for britain" mean leaving the EU?
>>77688762
Except Diana was murdered. She sent a letter to a friend saying "I think my ex-husband is going to have me killed in a car accident"....5 days before she died in a car accident.
Look up Unlawful Killing, really good documentary about the case.
Probably one of the only based pakis in this country desu
>>77689256
So better to chain ourselves to Europe and go down with the ship?
>>77689386
have you not seen any news in the last 12 hours?
>>77686687
>tfw muslim UKIP supporter
>>77689256
The collapse of the Eurozone (and, with it, the European Union) is only a matter of time. The faults are structural, and between 2008 and 2016 the European Central Bank (with the lovely Goldman Sachs veteran Mario Draghi at the wheel), the European Commission (with the former head of a tax haven Jean-Claude Juncker at the wheel) and the Eurogroup (with deliciously goyish Jeroen Dijsselbloem, pic related, at the wheel) have totally failed to fix those faults.
You're just postponing the inevitable by helping the European Union stay afloat for a year or two more. And in fact, the longer Europe remains stable the more African and Middle Eastern men we'll have when things do go tits up. So actually if you can crash the plane now, you should.
>Allahu Akbar! *BOOM*
>White culture's fault.
>Allahu Akbar! *BOOM*
>White culture's fault.
>Allahu Akbar! Death to infidels! *BOOM*
>Still white culture's fault.
>Allahu Akbar! *BOOM*
>White culture's fault.
>Allahu Akbar! *BOOM*
>White culture's fault.
>Allahu Akbar! *BOOM*
>White culture's fault.
>Death to infidels! Freedom for Britain! *BOOM*
>White culture's fault.
I fucking hate Liberals.
>>77685665
Just some news for Brits.
Gibraltar will become independent in case of Brexit, and will be a sovereign country inside the EU, with free movement of people and such.
As a Spaniard I'm sure Americans wouldn't allow us to annex it, because of strategic reasons (gate to the Mediterranean and all), but as long as it is they puppet state they won't mind.
So, llanitos, despite being more Brit nationalistic than the proper Brits, will become independent. They may call themselves "British Independent nation of Gibraltar" or something, but they need to have free movement of people with the EU.
TL;DR: say goodbye to Gibraltar, lads.
>>77689386
Lads, this was too good to be true.
>Neo-Nazi Terrorist
>Kills female MP, married with two kids
>Says he killed her for being traitor
>Followed it up with "Freedom for Britain"
>FFB = Leave EU
Fucking hell. I still think we've got a good chance.
>>77689424
Oh right yeah that's what he said isn't it...
>>77689188
Can you guys move your referendum to July 4th so we can have our independence days together?
>>77687948
>no more shekels
:^)
>>77689453
Forgot pic. Here's the head of the Eurogroup.
>>77687837
Fuck me, I thought you were just dicking about...
Don't know how I feel about it, bhwy.
CANT SNARE THE MAIR
>>77689254
What?
Someone posted a tweet of Neil saying "Good to see Campaign discourse become more civilised, less nasty, less hyperbolic, more reasoned, more respectful."
So I posted a leftist propaganda example of """"""""""discourse becoming more civilised, less nasty, less hyperbolic, more reasoned, more respectful.""""""""""
What aren't you getting?
>>77689474
The last time a load of Spaniards tried to take one of our overseas territories it didn't end well for them m8.
>>77689474
JUST FUCKING TRY IT, JUAN.
>>77689474
>Gibraltar will become independent in case of Brexit
>and will be a sovereign country inside the EU
>spaniard forgetting about the basque country or catalonia
0/10 bait
>>77689474
You wish Spicboi
>>77689484
Stop trying to culturally appropriate the greatest happening /pol/'s ever seen imperialist pigdog.
>>77689484
Would be a bit awkward desu considering what your independence day is about
>>77689484
why not just make it a two week celebration of fuck everybody that isn't us between our independence day and yours?
>>77689474
Muh monkeys, fuck off.
>>77689256
>the failure of the euro
The single currency is fine. The problem is debt and unemployment in the eurozone. Their economies are not working, meanwhile ours is working somewhat.
>>77689484
Mate, after Brexit July 4th is going to USA's new British Colonization Day.
Really makes you think..
>>77689474
>Gibraltar
No one gives a fuck.
Take the Falklands while you're at it too.
>>77689700
Woah... I'm now a #RemainCuckold
>>77689700
Yeah, fuck "Take Britain back!" I'm #GiveBritainAwayTrain now
>>77689700
>EUtopia
CRASHING THIS FUCKING UNION
WITH
N O S U R V I V O R S
Captcha: select all the tea
Really struggling to see how any logical person would change their vote based on this, but the subconscious effect is worrying.
New polls when?????
>>77689700
She's got it right, it's the jewish bankers ruining britain
#WeWantMosley
>>77689474
>Britain leaves EU
>Empire restored
>expansion starts from Gibraltar into whole of Grenada
>divide and conquer mainland by financing Catalonian and Basque separatism
>nuke Madrid and Barcelona
>move in Imperial troops to occupy smouldering ruins
>Iberian Peninsula is now a vassal state in the British Empire
Finally after 400 years we will have revenge for the Armada.
>>77685665
>that feel when first OC becomes brit/pol/'s OP picture
>>77689256
many economists bet on the eurozone collapse years ago the only question is when. why should britain stay on a sinking ship
>>77689700
wtf I love the EU now
>>77689453
The EU will undertake several reforms after the British referendum, regardless of the result.
The Brit proposal for the EU is one of a "different speeds" in the union. Some countries may have the Euro, some countries not. Some countries may want an European army, others not.
>BTW, it was Britain who advocated for Turkey inside Europe, with countries such as France being against...
What this referendum will change will be 3 matters:
1- UK inside our outside.
2- Things will start changing faster inside the union (bank union, federal budget for all the countries -> a closer economic union, maybe an army, and to become a federation for the countries that want to do it)
3- the different speeds question. If Britain get's out the EU may be monolithic: one country, one currency, one army. In or out, you choose. If BRitain remains inside there will be different armies, currencies, and different levels of union.
>>77689155
Why do you think Germoney has such a vested interest in increasing European military cooperation and the international influence it's provide?
Germany's main source of international clout is the EU, Britain's is mainly our trade links, our soft power via our position between the USA and the EU, but we also still have significant influence over international security affairs due to our limited force projection capability.
If we disarmed/isolated ourselves (one and the same, I can't see Westminster funding our current military size if we end foreign deployments) we'll still have that soft power but we'll lose our still noteworthy hard power, which will actually have the effect of making us more dependant on the EU as Germany is.
Japan is the USA's bitch, they don't need an armed forces because the USA provides one, much like how European forces are currently much smaller than they'd otherwise need to be without American protection. Japan just takes it a step further, they are extremely dependant on the US, personally I don't want to be the American's sockpuppet anymore than we currently are.
>>77689187
BBC detected.
>>77689188
HM Armed Forces has already taken part under operations with both UN and EU commands. The oath won't change under the EU Army.
The oath actually makes no mention of the UK government or the British people, it's exclusively the Monarch's armed forces, she just lends it to the democratic government to decide what it's used for. Why can't she lend a few battalion or two to our European cousins?
>>77689427
Please reconsider. UKIP want to kill your family
Vote labour
>>77689830
You're not getting Gilbraltar.
>>77689700
Is that the real stig of the dump?
DEATH TO TRAITORS FREEDOM FOR BRITAIN
DEATH TO TRAITORS FREEDOM FOR BRITAIN
DEATH TO TRAITORS FREEDOM FOR BRITAIN
DEATH TO TRAITORS FREEDOM FOR BRITAIN
GET OUT EU REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>77689789
> Muslim terrorist guns down 100 fags in swing state.
> Trump's numbers down.
>>77689212
This would be ideal I agree, if it was on the table I'd be voting Leave in a shot, but I don't think it's feasible in reality. Canada is basically a US state in terms of their foreign policy, they've no interest in expanding their already sizable interactions with the UK.
Australia is again, much more interested in allying itself with the USA than an independant UK because Murica can provide military protection and political clout in their area of the world, something the UK is incapable of doing.
Who else does that realistically leave out of the Commonwealth? The rest are minor nations of little benefit to the UK.
The issue is that the UK has great soft power but little hard power, the latter is provided by the US so they will always be more attractive allies to the major Commonwealth nations than we are.
I'd also worry about our trade links to the Commonwealth outside of the EU, just look at our recent dealings with China, a big selling point for us is that we provide easy access to both the EU and US markets.
>>77689836
The EU has USURPED her majesty's sovereignty. New European war WHEN?
>>77689964
Those polls are jewed as fuck they have to be
>>77689964
>swing state
>Florida
It isn't. It is solidly democrat now.
>>77686305
Needs more "menacing" desu senpai
Why does nobody ever talk about democratic terrorism and the infiltration of voterbase by mass immigration? It's inevitable. Look at London for fuck's sake.
>>77689996
When the the number of nations electing right wing governments reaches critical mass.
>>77689700
whoa...
>>77689836
> personally I don't want to be the American's sockpuppet anymore than we currently are.
But why are you happy being a province in a federal Europe? We'll have no influence because Britain won't exist as it does today. It'll just be the EU.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3647876/Belgian-police-arrest-12-launching-dozens-raids-major-anti-terror-operation.html
Normies care more about stories like this, and they push Leave.
>>77689939
He's some regressive UK rapper who constantly spouts bullshit on facebook
>>77689700
I bet you 50p those bankers gave themselves HEFTY bonuses after pocketing Britain. Disgusting.
Relax lads. Based Nige will be on ITV tomorrow morning from 10am to put Brexit back on track and make it all better. If Junker, Tusk, Merkel, Obama, Cameron and Lagarde can't barrage the Farage then patsy wackjob Thomas Mair aka Death To Traitors Freedom For Britain doesn't stand a chance. Based Nige will let nobody wreck what he has worked tirelessly for 20yrs to achieve. He'll come back with a bang tomorrow and lead us to Brexit next Thursday.
>>77690045
>The kata says GO GO GO GO GO GO
>>77690196
No, he won't.
>>77690196
>Come back with a bang
>>77689989
>Canada is basically a US state in terms of their foreign policy, they've no interest in expanding their already sizable interactions with the UK.
the states screws us over a lot in trade, I could see us swapping a bit
>>77689406
We'll 'go down with the ship' if the EU collapses regardless of whether we're a member or not, the EU is our chief trading partner and still would be even after Brexit, the Leave campaign has been very open about this, European instability will hit us hard either independant or as a member.
I'd say it makes more sense to try and save it than just wash our hands of it and guarantee it's collapse because it's looking a bit uncertain.
>>77689453
Personally I don't believe in sure things. The EU's death has been announced numerous times, while its certainly possible, I don't see the appeal of acting to guarantee it just because that's the way the winds blowing.
>>77689563
Fffttt, my friend, Gibraltar is a shithole. It's strategic for the British in the same way, but to Spaniards it's irrelevant because it's surrounded by Spain. IE: no value for us, apart from "honour" or something.
Not to troll Brits but GIbraltar is just the rock in the left corner of this PIC, just the rock. The airstrip is crossed by the main street of the village and people live crammed in commieblocks.
>>77690263
>3 posts by this ID
>>77690111
I know it's sick for thinking but we could do with one of the muzzies helping us out with a cheeky little jihad right now.
>>77690263
Yeah, he will.
>>77690263
That's the spirit
>>77690309
The Falklands were/are the same. Just watch out for whenever you might get a failing government who think it's a good idea to go invade somewhere to distract people from how shit they are.
>>77687948
>sheckles
>shekel
Hmm.
>>77690293
Not if we're free to pursue international trade outside of Europe. The Eurozone is doomed to failure because it was a terrible idea to begin with, it's futile to prolong the inevitable. France and Spain are on the brink already.
>>77690048
Because that's racist, anon. Don't you know 2nd generation immigrants are fully assimilated at birth, you shitlord?
Annoying thing is that in the US that public law 414 is made to combat democratic terrorism, but they'd never have the sense to use it.
Help me lads! I've got a postal vote but i dont know what day is best to send it out.
I dont want it sitting on some table somewhere that it might be fiddled with
>>77690285
You already have almost entirely open trade links with us, we couldn't offer you more even outside of the EU (it'd likely be that we couldn't offer you as much since we'd be outside the common market), it's more foreign policy and military interoperatability I was talking about.
I can't see the benefit to yourselves in breaking links with the USA in favour of Britain in terms of foreign policy, we can't protect your borders in the (unlikely) event of an invasion, nor can we protect your trade interests abroad with our 'big stick' in the same way the USA can, simply because our stick isn't as big as theirs.
>>77690483
Just post it lad ffs.
>>77690483
It's sent first class, which means (in theory) next day delivery.
Don't leave it too late though. You know what the post can be like.
>>77690413
Except Britain and Spain are NATO allies and leading trading partners.
Spain gets +5 million Brit tourists and the UK exports more to Spain than to Canada + Australia + New Zealand together.
Muh Commonwealth is a brainfart. The UK sells +60% of their exports to the EU. Without us say goodbye to 60% of your economy, if we were to have a trade war.
And good luck selling to India, Brazil, etc. expensive stuff...
You only have 3 big markets: US, EU and China. Selling to China is tough, so in fact you only have two. The EU is the bigger one and we are your neighbours.
If we close the doors, we will lose maybe 5-10%, but you will lose +60%.
Also, Britain wouldn't win a war in Spanish soil, unless you started dropping nuclear bombs.
>>77690728
every fucking thread
You know we traded with germany during the war?
>>77690455
Our international trade links are already extensive, the EU doesn't place restrictions of those to any significant degree, if anything, our EU membership has arguably made us a more attractive trading partner to countries otherwise unable to develop links to the EU common market.
After Brexit we might expand in some places but we'd likely contract in others so, from my understanding at least, our net gains in terms of trade revenue wouldn't be significant.
I can't see them being greatly expanded after a Brexit, and just in terms of our geographic position, European instability would still greatly harm our economy even if we did. There's no realistic way we could entirely wean ourselves off European trade and not take a massive hit to our GDP, it'll always make up a large percentage even if it's not a majority, just because we're parked right next to it.
>>77690728
>The UK sells +60% of their exports to the EU.
Nope. 47% and falling, and to say that that would drop to 0 post exit is simply bullshit.
>>77690799
> the EU doesn't place restrictions of those to any significant degree
Yes it does, we cannot negotiate agreements independently. We have to wait for an agreement all member states agree to, which is why the Canada deal is still delayed after 10 years of negotiations. Tiny Switzerland has much more in the way of international trade deals than the EU.
Imagine opening up our financial sector to unrestricted markets in developing economies like India, Brazil and China like the Swiss have done. We can have our cake and eat it, the Eurozone is going to collapse regardless and the whole world will feel it.
>>77690558
Look, I know you have muh Empire in mind, but now get back to reality. What the fuck do you think that you are going to sell to Canucks and Aussies? Teabags?
Take a look at this picture and see the reality.
It's not about trade pacts, which by the way the EU is signing left and right in order for YOU to profit from that. Even with trade pacts, the UK doesn't sell shit overseas.
60% of your exports are to the EU and allies.
And 20% of your economy is the financial sector, which will be hurt immesely in case of Brexit, with London not being the financial capital of the world anymore (European banks would move out of the City).
Sorry brah, but this is the true.
Muh Commonwealth is small (Canada 40 million, Australia 20 million...) and India doesn't give a fuck.
Now, if you want to sell Bentleys to Jamaicans or Belizeans, good luck m8.
>>77690309
It's strategic in the end time battle. do you even Nostradamus. Britain will need it to fight the EU
>>77690728
Also, as far as a war goes, you start making motions towards Gib and NATO isn't coming to help you. Same as when Turkey started trying to act tough towards Russia. They found themselves with very few friends.
For 1 on 1, we're number 5/6 globally. You're number 27. Our army is larger, better trained and better equipped. And yes we have nukes too should it come to that.
Home turf or not, that's not good odds for you.
This stupid fucking idiot has lost it for us hasn't he
>>77691086
You seem to misread my post, I'm in (more or less) agreement with you, that's essentially what I was saying.
>britain votes leave
>still have Cameron in charge
>Cameron goes to "negotiate" with the EU
>Gets the worst possible terms intentionally
>"It will take 8 years for this to go into effect."
>"Our terms are much worse, we should get back in."
>"We have to pay more now in tarriffs."
>Time goes by
>People mad at this. "Brexit was a mistake!"
>Rejoins EU before based Nigel can set things right.
That's what's gonna happen. We voted no to EU, but our parliament is majority pro-EU, with predictable consequences.
>>77691179
It was a headache we didn't need, but we can still do it. We're still ahead in the polls.
>>77691086
That doesn't even include our biggest sector (by far), financial services. The EU sells much more to us than we do to them in terms of physical goods. Which is why we'll get a favourable trade agreement.
>>77691086
>now get back to reality
The eurozone is bankrupt. There is no reason to be attached to a bankrupt trade bloc full of unemployed people.
>20% of your economy is the financial sector
The reason our financial sector is so enlarged is because we are not in the eurozone. Investors want to limit their exposure to the bankrupt, corrupt, festering shitpile across the Channel.
>>77687972
Congratulations on being a faggot
>>77689532
desu lad I was a bit confused by what you were getting at. But then again I'm autistic
The only possible upside I see of this are
Women "ooooh if we vote Remain too many people will be angry and there will be shootings. I stay home" - undecideds gained in the last opll at the same time as remain lost support
Politicians after a leave vote: "if we don't leave and make it happen, it will be our asses"
Every cloud has a silver lining. Keep it up Britbongs and make it happen.
>>77691286
Financial services are 20% and the EU banks would move to Frankfurt of Paris in case of Brexit.
In fact, I know from a friend working in the field that Asian banks have been relocating offices and opening branches in the mainland Europe just in case of Brexit.
Take into account that being in the EU allows for the City to have European workers there (elite native Frenchs, for example).
>>77691329
The Eurozone is not the chaos you think it is. The Greek economy is 2% of the Eurozone, and while Spanish unemployment is high we are growing at 3% each year and creating 500k jobs per year.
There is a already an ongoing bank union and there will be a fiscal union after that.
It was chaotic when the crisis started, not anymore, and more countries have been joining the Euro year after year.
>>77687186
>languages
NATO has teams of translators that listen through headsets of one person speaking and then speak into a microphone for the NATO Ambassador they've been assigned to.
There are entire fucking books on the whole translation system of NATO I've listed you one below.
https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=tAW-BQAAQBAJ&pg=PT15&lpg=PT15&dq=nato+meeting+translation+process&source=bl&ots=9N6GffgUNL&sig=ppnIbfLmkLtIOSgLg4oDXqS-vx8&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi6_6KQxrHNAhVCFMAKHczxAa0Q6AEIKDAF#v=onepage&q=nato%20meeting%20translation%20process&f=false
That's how NATO manages to communicate the member states, your idea of getting everyone to be multilingual is fucking retarded.
There is also the point of the NATO Phoentic Alphabet which was designed to help countries communicate clearly but it still doesn't work very well. There are many instances of mic communications within NATO:
http://tribune.com.pk/story/298121/tribune-take-miscommunication-led-to-the-nato-attack/
>even distribution of power and you say NATO does just fine.
People have brought this up over the years and it's a fact that the poorer countries of NATO DO NOT pay their fair share (pic related).
In the EU army, I'be said it myself, we will have the exact same problem where the UK will be footing the majority of the bill. As you can see from PIC RELATED the UK pays a significantly higher portion than Germany and other Euro zone countries.
If you honestly expect the EU Army to incite more spending from its members then you are deluded and probably a libtard.
