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>LATEST POLL RESULTS
EU referendum poll:
Remain: 44% (+1)
Leave: 49% (+1)
(ICM, online / 10 - 13 Jun)
EU referendum poll:
Remain: 39% (-3)
Leave: 46% (+3)
(YouGov, online / 12 - 13 Jun)
EU referendum poll:
Remain: 40% (-1)
Leave: 47% (+4)
(via TNS, online)
EU referendum poll:
Remain: 45% (+3)
Leave: 50% (+5)
(ICM, phone / 10 - 13 Jun)
EU referendum poll:
Remain: 47%
Leave: 53%
(ICM, both online and phone / 10 - 13 June)
>PETER HITCHENS
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-3637246/PETER-HITCHENS-British-people-risen-unleash-chaos.html
>DANIEL HANNON
http://www.spectator.co.uk/2016/06/six-best-reasons-vote-leave/
>JACOB REES-MOGG
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-3614626/JACOB-REES-MOGG-Yes-victory-bloody-final.html
>FIRST BRITAIN, THEN THE WORLD
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/06/06/farage-brexit-domino-disintegration/
>BETSFAIR ODDS PAGE
https://www.betfair.com/exchange/plus/#/politics/market/1.118739911
>THREAD THEMES
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zCGQV_aJME
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBz6y6ZrmD8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2KA5iyUUdw
>BREXIT: THE MOVIE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTMxfAkxfQ0
>BORIS ITV DEBATE - 9 JUNE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RcAywz3SaOo
>NIGE ON QT - 9 JUNE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMoLLHHaWEY
>NIGE V NEIL - 10 JUNE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EaSQT7QnbWI
>ARE NIGE RETROSPECTIVE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UCm6LNj7P0
>POLLTRACKERS/ODDSCHECKER
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_United_Kingdom_European_Union_membership_referendum
https://twitter.com/britainelects
https://yougov.co.uk/turnout-o-meter/
http://www.oddschecker.com/politics/british-politics/eu-referendum/referendum-on-eu-membership-result
>CAMPAIGN ORGANISATIONS
http://www.voteleavetakecontrol.org/organise
http://leave.eu/
http://grassrootsout.co.uk/join-us
http://www.ukip.org/volunteer
http://conservativesforbritain.org/sign-up/
http://www.labourleave.org/
POLLS:
14 June
Remain: 40% (-1)
LEAVE: 47% (+4)
(TNS, online)
13 June
Remain: 45%
LEAVE: 50%
(ICM, phone)
13 June
Remain: 39%
LEAVE: 46%
(YouGov, online)
13 June
Remain: 44%
LEAVE: 49%
(ICM, online)
12 June
Remain: 48%
LEAVE: 49%
(ORB, phone)
10 June
Remain: 42%
LEAVE: 43%
(YouGov, online)
10 June
REMAIN: 44%
Leave: 42%
(Opinium, online)
9 June
Remain: 45%
LEAVE: 55%
(ORB, online)
EU referendum poll
Remain: 46% (-6)
Leave: 45% (+4)
(via ComRes, phone)
TRAFALGAR 2.0
>REMINDER FOR THE 24TH
Counts will get under way when polls close at 22:00 GMT Thursday, 23 June at 382 local centres around the UK. These local results will be declared as the counts are completed before being collated at 12 regional centres, which will also declare the totals for each side. There will be a rolling total so the time at which one side reaches the point of being mathematically unbeatable depends on how quickly the vote are counted and how close the results are running. It is a safe bet that from 4am onwards there should be pretty clear picture of which way the vote is going. A chief counting officer will announce the overall result at Manchester Town Hall.
https://vine.co/v/ilBVXpEY2Uw
>LEFT WING LEAVE CAMPAIGNS:
>http://www.voteleavetakecontrol.org/organise
>http://leave.eu/
>http://grassrootsout.co.uk/join-us
>http://www.ukip.org/volunteer
>http://conservativesforbritain.org/sign-up/
>http://www.labourleave.org/
>>77357879
1ST FOR ARE NIGE
SIXTH FOR FUCK THE EU
>>77357879
First for Pritifu.
https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/743074431447228420/pu/vid/1280x720/GqmApm1PvYQFFKBz.mp4
10th for the Guardian
Steady boys, steadyyy
>tfw you'll never slide it in a 19 year old who is voting to Leave
Britsies get out, reeee!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37iHSwA1SwE
>>77357999
wat
Give this a watch, its brexit related
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZ9fxpmM1lA
>all these people who think Rupert Murdoch and The Sun supporting Brexit is an argument against it.
will Orlando nudge some remainers over to leave?
>>77358007
>tfw no leave voter bf
CAN SOMEBODY TELL ME HOW THE SCOTTISH ISLANDS ARE PREDICTED TO VOTE?
THERE'S BEEN TOO LITTLE INFORMATION TO CALL.
Reporting in for HM's Loyal Scots. Herald reported today that Scottish support for Remain has fallen by 13% in the last two months. Some more of my countrymen are starting to see the light.
>Remainers will defend this
>>77357780
what are germans doing in the middle of romania?
first for #MillionairesChooseRemain(youfuckingpeasants)
>>77358000
> inb4 leave tosses the lefties into the river
also, checked
>>77357939
I don't think I've ever seen anyone get dub[spoiler][/spoiler]s with that image.
>>77358104
Lebensraum
>>77358007
>did last night
>>77358104
The eternal Teuton was everywhere before WW1/WW2 expulsions
>>77358071
try to court and convert owen jones.
:^)
>>77358054
>thundercUCk
>>77358000
Huh, it's like a naval version of Cable Street.
Really makes ya think.
>>77358173
He's a big of a mong
>>77357879
>The value of sovereignty cannot be measured by any economist’s formula. Adam Smith, the father of economics, first observed that the prosperity of a country is decided by whether it keeps its ‘laws and institutions’ healthy. This basic insight explains why nations thrive or fail, and has been the great secret of British success: intellectual, artistic, scientific and industrial. The principles of the Magna Carta and achievements of the Glorious Revolution led to our emergence as a world power. To pass up the chance to stop our laws being overridden by Luxembourg and our democracy eroded by Brussels would be a derogation of duty to this generation and the next.
Based Speccie
>>77358000
>piracy on the Thames
do less, UK
Spread this and spread it NOW.
This photo could spring it for Leave.
>>77358074
I imagine Orkney and Shetland will probably vote Leave. They seem to have different priorities to mainland Scots. Also I imagine they've been fucked over by fisheries stuff
>>77358187
kek, it's a pretty good go leave video though, rational and kikebook worthy
>>77358239
well duh.
pic related.
Guys
Milo Yiannopoulos is suspended from twitter
>>77357078
At least Nige is honest to admit he can't predict the future.
More than what the Remanians say about WW£ and everything collapsing.
Got even more respect for Nige.
>>77358247
Go on wiki quote and grab the Enoch Powell quote on independence
>>77358000
we'll fight and we'll conquer again and again
https://www.strawpoll.me/10394747
>this thread
Are you guys actually being ironic I can't tell?
You know that for every pound we put in we get 10 back?
I don't see why you'd risk our economy over this.
>>77358298
nobody cares
>>77357976
In tribute of your gay population that was recently gunned down.
Based Willy, laughing.
What a lad!
>>77358298
Thank god and good riddance
Britain leaves vote to leave i really believe in this
I want to visit your ancient museums and see your beautiful architecture
don't let the merkalriech and rapefugees destroy itv
>>77358261
So wait, where are the fishermen on his boat? I don't see any.
>>77358452
Thanks Buddhist Island mate
>>77358452
quite /rare/
Do you want us /out/ lad?
Please post more owen jones pozz memes
>>77358470
>All those hidden posts
lel someone was asspained
Another endorsement for Leave lads
>>77358481
Argument
YES [ ]
NO [X]
>>77358481
None. Just the usual wealthy Silver Spoon babies who think a future in politics is around the corner for them, utterly oblivious to the real world.
LOW LEVEL NAVAL-WARFARE ON THE THAMES
https://www.buzzfeed.com/matthewchampion/brexit-flotilla?utm_term=.poN0a6bbj#.pbEnY5zz7
LOW LEVEL NAVAL-WARFARE ON THE THAMES
https://www.buzzfeed.com/matthewchampion/brexit-flotilla?utm_term=.poN0a6bbj#.pbEnY5zz7
LOW LEVEL NAVAL-WARFARE ON THE THAMES
https://www.buzzfeed.com/matthewchampion/brexit-flotilla?utm_term=.poN0a6bbj#.pbEnY5zz7
How do i argue, senpai?
>>77358611
>cuckfeed
Remember this day
>>77358452
What flavour of ceyleonese are you?
>>77358569
Nah lad it was so I could get both posts in one screenshot because I'm lazy.
>>77358661
tell him to stop being a faggot
Lads, my sister is doing a meme degree in international relations, would there be more jobs in that sector if we were to leave the EU? She's remain at the moment because she doesn't want to destroy her jobs prospects but she might be doing that by voting to remain, and I want to know if she is.
Anyone been following the Tooting by-election?
Normally I'd say it was in the bag for Labour but there might be enough independent lefties to split the vote and give it to the Tories
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tooting_by-election,_2016
>>77358452
>don't let them destroy ITV
Fuck it, we'll save it just for you, anon lad
>>77358581
Literally included in the OP
>>77358569
That was done to make the image smaller you dork
>>77358345
Well that's it, I am now a #StayScud
>>77358569
or maybe he was trying to fit in the post he was replying to in the picture you utter mong
>>77358723
International means a lot more than the EU
>>77358661
Point out that Geldoff and co. being contemptuous of the people they claim t care for more than Leave. Also that Farage isn't leave. And stop asking to be spoonfed.
>>77358661
Post picture, say Farage has chosen the side of the poor fishermen who have lost their jobs, their industry, their livelihoods and Bob stuck his fingers up to them.
Do it.
>>77358661
You forgot to mention Farage had hundreds of dispossessed fishermen on his side while Bob only had cucks and media studies students.
Don't let the lefty frame it as a personality contest.
> Multiple newspapers changing allegiance
> Farage and Geldof have a sea battle under Tower Bridge
Has this been the most surreal day of politics ever.
>>77358611
>buzzfeed
wew lad
what are you doing
>>77358661
ask her 'should Australia join the EU, like Eurovision?'.
>>77358723
Your sister is literally a retard unworthy of admission to a university if she has to ask that
>We will leave the EU and (Sir) Nigel Farage will rightly receive the highest recognition for his contribution to the Kingdom
>>77358661
>he's making it all about people
It's supposed to be about the ducking people you spastic.
http://www.strawpoll.me/10491477
http://www.strawpoll.me/10491477
http://www.strawpoll.me/10491477
http://www.strawpoll.me/10491477
http://www.strawpoll.me/10491477
http://www.strawpoll.me/10491477
>>77358835
>> Multiple
More then the spectator?
We need to compile a battle report of the flotilla. My piece on Channel 4 entering the fray, feel free to add:
A supposedly impartial Channel 4 craft strode into the conflict in an attempt to undermine the Leave squadrons, firing their xenophobia cannons filled with accusations that the Corona beer the jolly fishermen were drinking was imported from the EU. However, the alleged comedians were rendered powerless when it was pointed out to them that it actually manufactured and imported from Mexico. Utterly ruined, the funnymen promptly escaped before exposing their arguments to further scrutiny. You can expect a fully balanced report of the battle from them on The Last Leg, where they will drink their own tears and stutter out beyond the blubbering that “N…Nigel Farage is a r-racist…” to the hysterical cheers of a balanced and impartial audience.
>>77358835
It was very strange. I got back in around half 1 and turned the news on to hear about are Nige and Geldof
Great times ahead lads
>SPECULATION TIME
Now that the Sun and the Spectator have officially endorsed Brexit, how do we think the rest of the chips are going to fall?
>Independent
>Times
>Sunday Times
>Telegraph
>Sunday Telegraph
>Daily Mail
>Mail on Sunday
>Observer
>Financial Times
>Economist
>Express
>Daily Mirror
>Guardian
IMO, the four to watch are the Daily Mail, Telegraph, the Times, and the Independent. If Mail, Telegraph and Times go Brexit, that would be I think a critical mass of support. If we lose Times and/or Telegraph, that could spell trouble. I can't imagine Daily Mail would go remain, I would simply be gobsmacked.
>>77358855
>>77358685
I know buzzfeed is shit :^) The article has some nice clips though.
>>77358835
Source on more papers lad?
It's over lads
>>77358951
The Sun was Remain yesterday
Leave today.
Can someone help me understand the powers of the European Parliament Fisheries Committee?
>>77358723
Surely if we left the eu we'd be forging relationships with nations all over the world, not just those within the eu?
Anyone else a Spectator subscriber?
>>77359090
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBWuDhIv9B0
>>77359036
MoS is Remain, Mail is Leave.
Forgot all the others, but based on their reporting I'd say The Times, Daily Mirror, Guardian and Observer are all Remain.
>>77359092
>The Sun was Remain yesterday
>>77359036
Telegraphers REEEE whenever a Windmill is mentioned, theyd lose their entire readership if they backed Remain.
>>77359115
Nah but I've started buying it recently. Enjoying it a lot.
>>77359092
No, it was Leave yesterday
>>77358661
This is what politics is though.
Politics is always emotional because it's about people, people don't always listen to facts and figures.
Farage had the fishermen themselves on the boats, I'd imagine they knew what made them unemployed/decreased their quality of life better than Geldof does.
Also each side is not one person, recommend them Hannan as a counter to Farage.
>>77358723
>Stay and have more and more foreign policy and international relations controlled by the EU over time.
>Leave and have to sort out our own international relations and foreign policy with all other countries in the world
What do you think?
Somebody needs to be there to talk to all the countries we've abandoned and hardly spoken to for the last decade
>>77359036
>>Independent
IN
>>Times
OUT
>>Sunday Times
OUT
>>Telegraph
OUT
>>Sunday Telegraph
OUT
>>Daily Mail
OUT
>>Mail on Sunday
OUT
>>Observer
IN
>>Financial Times
IN
>>Economist
IN
>>Express
OUT
>>Daily Mirror
IN
>>Guardian
IN
>>77359036
Mail on Sunday is Remain; Guardian and Independent quite clearly Remain; Observer is Guardian's bastard sister so also Remain. Express declared for Brexit years ago.
Keep up, faggot.
>Geldof meanwhile told ITV News the EU referendum was “too serious to be left to charlatans” like Farage. He said he was on the Thames to “point out the facts about fishing”.
Bob Geldof confirmed for knowing more about fishing than fishermen.
who /private eye/ here?
>>77359036
Remain:
>Independent
>Times
>Sunday Times
>Observer
>Financial Times
>Economist
>Daily Mirror
>Guardian
>Mail on Sunday
Won't declare:
>Telegraph
>Sunday Telegraph
Leave:
>Daily Mail
>Express
>>77359036
>Independent
Probably Remain
>Times
Murdoch owned, so could go leave
>Sunday Times
Same as above
>Telegraph
Quite probably leave
>Sunday Telegraph
Same as above
>Daily Mail
Certainly Leave
>Mail on Sunday
Certainly Leave
>Observer
Literally who
>Financial Times
Toss up, Farage has done interviews with them before
>Economist
Almost certain Remain. DUDE INDEPENDENT EXPERTS LMAO
>Express
Certain Leave
>Daily Mirror
Most likely Remain
>Guardian
Certain Remain
>>77358422
cuck
For the lad in the last thread, hope this is what you had in mind.
>>77358661
Tell him that if his country isn't about people but only about "facts and numbers" then he doesn't understand Britain at all.
Also he sounds like a real faggot. Get some better friends.
>>77358661
Their contention that Farage only wants a referndum for publicity is ludicrous, is entire political life has been focused on trying to get Britain to exit the EU.
They're just trying to be a "holier-than-thou" fence-sitter.
>>77358060
Murdoch just wants to save his owns ass, his empire of companies would collapse utterly if it happens.
Like with many other companies and the general British economy.
But hey, sacrifices have to be made, and Murdoch's not much of a loss.
>>77357963
whats going on here?
>>77358054
who?
>>77358611
buzzfeed, good kek fella
>>77357943
fuck you I now miss living on the coast
>>77359366
that fish is badass
>>77358452
Love you Sri Lanka. Visited last year, you're a damn friendly bunch.
>>77359308
I buy every issue but I'm finding I'm reading it less. It's just too heavy at times, I feel like some articles might be a nicer variation.
>>77359414
>the coast
thames
Godspeed you glorious bastards
>>77359254
pretty much agree with this desu
im most disappointed that the economist would back In. the economist has some brilliant pieces from time to time but often they simply back either what is good for the markets and big business, or back naive liberal internationalism. it's most annoying because they always have some stuffy, slimy caveat in there like "while the EU is oft a shambles, with the Euro being a bad idea, with high unemployment, with a bureaucratic and undemocratic form of government, with it being both highly inefficient and wont to gobble up the sovereignty of its member states, with much needed reform it could be the bedrock of western interests bla bla bla".
It's like they know the right answer but are too upper middle class and naive to really take the plunge.
>>77358345
>muh shekels!
there are more important things. for those of us that have a soul that is. and a foreskin.
>>77359366
Brilliant.
Battle of the Thames.
http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2016/06/battle-of-the-thames/
http://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/nigel-farage-and-bob-geldof-in-river-battle-on-the-thames-over-brexit-a3272161.html
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/nigel-farage-and-sir-bob-geldof-clash-over-brexit-flotilla-in-battle-for-the-thames-a7083106.html
http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/brexit-referendum/brexit-battle-plays-out-london-s-river-thames-n592791
>>77358107
>Chile not Argentina
I am so confused....is this genuine or satire?
>>77359316
>economist. Almost certain Remain. DUDE INDEPENDENT EXPERTS LMAO
Its the new split-arse editor. Its gone so far down the diversity route now i am going to cancel my subscription. Its not even funny anymore.
>>77359036
>Independent
Neutral since they normally are but heavily shill for Remain
>Times
Probably Leave
>Sunday Times
Whatever the Times does
>Telegraph + Sunday
Leave
Leave
>Mail on Sunday
Possibly Remain since it's a different editor to the Mail
>Observer
No idea really, rarely see a copy
>FT
Remain
>Economist
Probably Remain
>Express
Guaranteed Leave
>Mirror
Not sure, they've been shilling for stay but a lot of their audience is similar to the Sun so they might go Leave in the end
>Guardian
What do you think?
>>77359543
Good to see police are spending their time well
>I don't bloody well think sharia allows it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TpP-n9Oqj-Y
RIP Enoch Powell
>>77359218
Don't want to miss Taki every week!
>>77359216
Telegraph is already fucked financially. DeLoitte has recommended the sacking of 150 staff members, and the process has already begun in chunks. The Independent is also doomed, as it falls victim to ad-sponsored news articles.
I'm more interested in what Private Eye will have on their cover on the day before the vote.
yo a few days ago someone posted the pan europa in english, anyone got it?
Note to Faggots:
Murdoch tends to let his chief editors decide positions for themselves.
Naturally, he'll only appoint editors he finds 'on-side'.
>>77359543
>wayward lad
Good name.
>yesterday go to local vape shop to buy juice because nicotine addict who doesn't want to smoke real cigs anymore
>seems to have guys regularly just hanging about vaping (no jobs? lonely disaffected neets? gamers etc)
>chat to them about brexit
>realise they're pretty a-politcal and disenchanted with politics
>aware them that EU has imposed arbitrary legislation restricting vaping after being successfully lobbied by large tobacco companies (i.e not allowing bottles of more than 10ml to be sold, banning drip tips etc) DESPITE the UK general medical council endorsing vaping as significantly safer than smoking real cigs
>Aware them that big tobbacco comapanies lobby the EU to restrict clearomiser, dripping etc in favour of ciga-likes because large tobacco companies own ciga-likes and juice companies etc are smaller independent businesses
>nobody likes "ciga-likes". they taste like shit
>got 4 guys to commit to vote brexit
have epiphany last night.... "im going to target vape shops!!!"
>this morning go to another vape shop
>same senario ensues (don't these people have homes to go to??)
>got 3 guys and the owner to commit to voting brexit.... another guy would've but isn't registered.
There's another 7 more vape shops within driving distance. I'm going to visit them all between now and the 23rd.
What have you done today to promote brexit /pol/??
"meme magic" doesn't count
GET OUT THERE AND MAKE A DIFFERENCE!!!
>mfw
>>77358279
>Owen Jones
>Analista
>Analist
>>77359036
Remain: Indie, Times+ Sunday, MoS, Observer/Guardian, FT, Economist, Mirror
Leave: Telegraph+Sunday, DM, Express, Morning Star, Star
>>77359216
>Telegraphers REEEE whenever a Windmill is mentioned
holy fuck my sides
>>77359644
If that confuses you, you probably shouldn't vote at all
>>77357976
it's like everything you lot touch turns to shit
Anyone have the pic of the Leave boat spraying the Remainians?
>>77359665
>>Observer
>No idea really, rarely see a copy
It's essentially the guardian on sunday
>>77359790
forgot my face
>>77359665
>owen Jones
what a whiney little northern cuck
remember when /pol/cucks thought brexit was actually going to happen?
Guys, how do we answer the "LE NIGEL DIDNT TURN UP TO MEETINGS?!?! #NOFISHERMANSFRIEND" meme?
>>77359736
It'll just be a generic anti-politician mockery of both sides.
>>77358723
> international relations
I don't think she has many job prospects regardless.
>>77357879
After the debates, Leave gained a 10 point lead.
Are there plans for any other debates, or anything interesting in the next 8 days?
DAILY REMINDER FROM BASED BROTHER TAIG
THE REST OF THE EU IS ROOTING FOR YOU
Don't let scum self-loathing filth like Geldof, Enda Kenny or Schaubel fool you.
The rest of Europe is on your side, even Merkel said she would push for a "Good Deal for Britain"
>>77359790
If they're disenfranchised with politics, they probably aren't registered to vote.
>>77359637
Nothing illustrates Brexit more than this.
A rich elitist foreign snob jeering at unemployed fishermen from his private yacht, hectoring them to Remain in poverty.
The entire debacle played out in focus of the spiralling fractal.
>>77359899
Remember when Ameriheritages thought Scottish independence would happen and everyone told you it wouldn't and we were right?
>>77358109
i managed to get triple dubs when i used it
shame i didnt screencap it
>>77358298
It's probably because of his attacks on Islam
>>77359988
CZECHED
>>77359918
He was elected to campaign to leave the EU, that was in the manifesto. He's best served carrying out that pledge by campaigning in the UK
>>77358723
tell her to learn mandarin and she is set for life
>>77359742
Should still be in the archive:
>>77130035
Link to translation:
http://freetexthost.com/z5z0d4zd36
>>77359988
noice
>>77359801
>Leave: Morning Star
No matter what you may think about them, only 2 publications, in the entirety of the UK, said that we shouldn't vote to remain in the common market during the 1975 referendum - The Spectator and the Morning Star.
These 2 publications are the only partisan sources I'd say we can say have a track record of being honourable and respecting their readership.
>>77359928
kek, thanks.
>>77359988
FUCK THE EU!
>>77358345
Actually we lose money and the EU isn't even growing well. We' be better off selling to other markets and trading with the EU on a 1.5% to 4% tarrif, which is standard WTO tarrifs which offer us a better deal than EU membership.
>>77359251
>>77359100
>>77358913
>>77358778
>>77359935
Cheers lads, I just wanted some confirmation that I was thinking in the right direction.
>>77358723
desu there'd probably be a huge new demand for people to work in the civil service and foreign office in the event of Leave.
the whole 'im gonna work for the EU as an international relations grad' idea is just a huge meme.
speaking as someone who attends the best uni in the UK for Int. Rel. and majored in it.
Although I also majored in Business at the same time and am working in the private sector in America because I am not a faggot.
>>77359918
Well, Nigel himself has answered that question many times on QT etc.
Basically, the committee has absolutely no power to change or suggest legislation of any kind, so his reasoning was that it was more beneficial for him to be spreading awareness in the UK, or attending other duties. Also, I'm fairly sure that a bunch of those meetings were shortly after he survived that plane crash.
>>77360022
yeah. one guy wasn't. the rest were.
I wish I thought of this before the registration deadline
>>77359988
HE DID IT
>>77359988
Checked
>>77359981
Two prime time QT episodes, one with Gove and one with the pigfucker
>>77359790
you're a fucking genius, I've given up with vaping atm and I've been using the TPD as an example of draconian EU legislation but most people i know don't vape, never thought of going into vape shops
For the fag in the previous thread
>>77358107
>chile
>>77359918
By listening to what the fishermen are saying:
http://britishseafishing.co.uk/conservation/common-fisheries-policy-cfp/
>>77358723
>inside EU international relations limited to a tiny, crumbling bureaucracy
>outside EU will literally be spending the next few decades forging relationships with the four corners of the earth, rebuilding relations with the Commonwealth and reinstituting the Empire
Pick one.
>>77359742
http://freetexthost.com/z5z0d4zd36
nvm lads i found it, make sure you read it / read up on it. its basically a manifesto written in 1923 that became the foundation of the EU. it literally only takes 10 mins and has been my best tool for converting people to brexit
>>77358581
isnt spectator lefty af?
i've read it a few times and it seemed so
>>77359736
Knowing Private Eye probably a joke about literally anything other than the EU
>>77359790
Nice one lad, you're doing God's work
I'm volunteering in town handing out leaflets on Saturday and I've convinced a couple of housemates to vote Leave. Also I'll shit stir on normiebook in a minute.
>>77359981
There's a few debates left with a big one at Wembley on the 21st I think - that'll be the one to watch. I really hope they put Hannan on rather than Boris, he fucked up at the Telegraph debate a couple of days ago
>>77358723
if we leave, and eventually it breaks up, that's 28 more countries to deal with
>>77358973
6/10
wtf is a news channel doing taking sides?
>>77359098
it's to do with fishing
fish are the things that live in the water that have fins and gills and swim(most of the time), they attend schools until they graduate into trawling
>>77359308
nah, sorry ian, it's shit
>>77359637
archive.is your links, faggot
>>77358723
Yes, there would be a shit ton more jobs. Also unless she knows French and German, she won't get an EU job.
>>77359366
TIP
TOP
JEJ
THIS IS PERFECT
Thanks pal!
>>77359790
you should get some vote leave flyers and tell them to tell their customers tbqh
Wouldn't worry too much about the papers lads. The only pro-EU papers with a decent circulation that will back a remain vote is the Mirror. No one reads the Guardian or the Observer, the Independent (if it does back remain) is now just online clickbait and the FT backed the Euro so their reputation on Europe is pisspoor.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfef9oKDz80
any science men here?
RULE BRITANNIA
>>77360140
Thanks for the info, she's also doing it with a side of maths/stats as well so it sounds pretty similar to what you're doing. She's got her heart set on public service though, even if it pays less.
>>77359736
Telegraph might be ducked, but spare a thought for the guardian which is losing 100 million a year after sacking 360 staff.
Also why hasn't private eye done a brexit special edition yet, hislop the fucking gnome has been agitating for leaving for years and they managed to do one for the vaccine crap, and this is way more important.
I've heard Farage has been offered a lords position by Boris' camp.
Lord Farage of rekking the EU
Want to start a new union when you leave the EU, Britain fampai?
REMINDER TO BUY COPY OF THE SUN TOMORROW FOR THE MEMORABILIA
BATTLE OF THE THAMES
http://order-order.com/2016/06/15/women-at-the-back-at-khan-remain-speech
>Women at the back at Khan Remain Speech
>>77359988
Witnessed
the betting odds for the referendum are around 1.3 return on remain and 3.5 on leave, I'm pretty sure recent polls are bullshit
>>77358000
WE FIIIGHT AND WE CONQUER AGAIN AND AGAIN!
>>77359275
Wut
You only challenged his predictions once, you know?
>autistically repeating what was written
>>77360140
which uni famalam
>>77360233
C4 is a channel for the younger generation and as such is mostly left leaning.
>>77360351
yes a new union with you and denmark, british controlled tho if thats quite alright
>>77360181
>you're a fucking genius
I KNOW.
it just came to me during an epiphany whilst I was shit-posting on the guardian's website last night.
>>77360280
Jesus christ, print is dying
>>77360230
>yfw this cross was meant to be the EU flag but Turkey opposed it
rotten to the core, 12 stars signifying nothing
>>77358077
>IN Flag
>Entry to the traitors gate
Appropriate
>>77359988
based
>>77360389
>"g-g-guys please the polls are w-wrong, look at the b-betting odds"
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/generalelection/bookies-now-say-ed-miliband-is-more-likely-to-be-prime-minister-than-david-cameron-10190187.html
I want remain shills to leave.
Got a mate in Philly who's just bought me a MAGA hat.
Once we Leave, I'm going to be shilling for Trump in this country.
>>77359988
witnessed
>>77360426
We can make that work
What will brexit mean for our Union?
>>77360362
>not battle of Trafalgar
>>77359987
Thank-you, Based Brother Taig
>>77360399
The fact he had to ask about half spoke volumes alone.
>>77360442
Print is dead
>>77360492
Exactly
>>77360277
I don't want to make it too obvious that I'm campaigning.
>>77360351
Ireland wants in on this
Also can the new union be a set of no tariff agreements and not a big political clustercuck?
>>77360363
The mainstream media will ignore this yet again
>>77360140
I feel like I should elaborate a little bit.
I know a lot of people personally who attempted to work for the EU, who had top marks at again the best (or, let's be safe, top 3) international relations department in the country.
It never works because the only people in demand at the EU are translators who know 4 languages, or people who are already "in the loop" and have friends / connections / gobs of experience working in government and the Brussels bueraucratic machine in particular.
If your sister actually wants a job with that degree, it's awesome that she has math / stats experience as you indicated here >>77360317 . That's a HUGE asset.
What she should do is apply for consultancy companies that offer public sector work. If she's really bright McKinsey, BCG (where I will be working), Bain, or also Deloitte, PWC, and many others are also really great alternatives.
The reality of public sector work (I have cousins who work for the State Department in the USA), is that its either a total grind doing unimportant piss for no money, or you have gobs of connections and you get something cushy. If she's still figuring it out she's obviously the latter.
I know this is 4chan but I am not making any of this up and I would be happy to elaborate on anything if you have any questions.
>>77360498
>Once we Leave, I'm going to be shilling for Trump in this country.
It's not really of any relevance to us though mate.
>>77357973
>one kilometer of bunting
fucking hell lad that gave me a good laugh
>>77360280
To be fair a lot more people look at the news online instead now.
I'd be interested to see how the Metro goes if it does take a stance.
Dubs decides which way I vote.
If this post is dubs I vote remain (I'm leaning that way)
>>77360363
They do it to themselves, we don't even have to dig shit up about them.
Amazing how we've tolerated them for so very long. Well, tolerance has a time limit.
>>77360233
>wtf is a news channel doing taking sides?
Channel 4 might be publicly owned but it's mostly privately funded, as a result I don't think they have any reason to be impartial. I don't like their opinions but that's how debate works
You might as well say the same thing about newspapers
>>77360530
America are Britains ally and have regularly opposed British interests
I'm not just talking Obama either
Remember during the Falklands?
>>77360280
Telegraph, MoS, and the Times are the ones to watch. If they go Leave, that would be a critical blow.
Blocks to Reform: Changing any aspect of the Common Fisheries Policy – even ones which are clearly broken such as subsidies or destructive and wasteful such as discards – is very difficult indeed. This is because the EU moves at an extremely slow pace with endless committees, reports, investigations and so on having to be carried out before any action can take place, but also because agreements need to be reached between all member nations before change can take place. This is a particular problem because nations such as Spain and France almost always try to derail any regulation or rule changes which will disadvantage their fishermen, even if the rule change will help restore fish stocks and benefit everyone in the long term. This can be seen in the discard ban where France and Spain issued a ‘joint declaration’ which aimed to allow discards to continue indefinitely (in the end they only gained small exemptions for themselves). Similarly, an attempt to ban deep-sea trawling was narrowly defeated, even through this practice causes untold damage to ancient and delicate ecosystems and the entire deep-sea trawling fleet is almost entirely French (and runs at a massive loss and is only propped up by EU subsidies). The reasons for the French and Spanish blocking reform are perfectly logical: they have the largest fishing fleets and receive the most in subsidies – Spain in fact has the largest fishing fleet in Europe but does most of its fishing outside of its own territorial waters. Furthermore, CFP Reform Watch state that Spain receives around half of the total subsidies handed out by the EU – a good situation for them but it is a terrible one for Europe’s fish stocks.
[1/2]
>>77360628
*are not Britains ally
>>77360644
[2/2]
Even when change does take place it is painfully slow. The discards ban took three years to agree and came close to being completely derailed or watered down to the point of being useless a number of times. Even when it was agreed in late 2013 it will be phased in between 2015 and 2019, meaning it will have taken almost a decade to fully implement a system which basically amounts to stopping fishermen throwing away perfectly good and edible fish.
>>77360530
I can do one better
>>77360207
Yeah? Chile the south American country. The ones that attacked us. What tossers.
>>77360571
obviously NOT the latter, sorry.
I don't mean to piss on her parade but I am telling you the public sector meme almost never works out. All my friends who were dead-set on that path are now doing post-graduate degrees to buy time because it never worked out.
I never look at these threads. Are all the polls here just cherrypicked?
>>77360732
>forgetting the daughter of king arthur
>>77358345
you know that video was full of shit, right?
as in, completely and utterly unsourced lies?
>>77360351
Of course, this has been the plan all along. Once the EU has disintegrated we will start again, with the following countries:
UK
Ireland
Denmark, Sweden, Norway, Finland, Iceland
France, Holland, Germany, Belgium, Luxembourg, Austria, Switzerland, Lichtenstein
everybody else can fuck off
>>77358000
>not "the leave party" or "the opposition" but Trawlermen
Basically calling them fucking disgusting proles, I'm surprised he didn't use Sir for Geldof
Just got home from wagecucking lads, what a fantastic day.
Off tomorrow and Friday, a nice long weekend.
>>77360773
See for yourself
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_United_Kingdom_European_Union_membership_referendum
>>77360773
No.
There has been a huge swing to Leave in the past week and a half.
You can see the running polling averages here:
https://ig.ft.com/sites/brexit-polling/
EDUCATE YOURSELF FELLOW ANGLO, THE DAWNING OF THE ANGLOSPHERE UNION IS UPON US
>>77360791
Even the remainers are becoming disgusted at In antics
These people truly despise this country and it's inhabitants
>>77360773
No, those are all the poles quoted on BBC, Bloomberg and any other news site that follows this campaign, it has just been swinging viciously towards leave in the last week or so.
>>77360791
I would never tire of punching these Hooray Henries
>>77360389
You wot m8. Your numbers are wrong anyway, but there was a point leave was 4/1 (5.0) and its dropping every day.
Doesn't matter one bit.
>>77360496
>77360496
I'm not shilling I support leave and want to bet on leave (illegal in my cuck country though,) usually betting odds are far more accurate than other estimates, something seems very wrong when polls range from 50/50 to 60-40 in favour of leave but the odds are 3.5:1.3 in favour of remain.
>>77360230
So...errrr a little light weight on specifics, but why would you say this was an argument against Brexit? Seems like a pretty legit, at least emotional argument for the EU.
Russia is still a problem.
Your cooperation is the reason you haven't had a war in 70 years.
And the problem with your economy is Austrian economics, and IMF austerity, not the Union.
>>77360810
I didn't forget, I just didn't include her.
Also the actual King arthur
>>77360349
Lord Farage of Belgium, kek
>>77360362
no
>>77360390
Come, cheer up, my lads, 'tis to glory we steer
>>77360417
>as such is mostly left leaning
>as such
kikes man, kikes
>>77360230
will give it a go
>>77360463
>Turkey opposed it
they aren't even a fucking member
>>77360530
make the anglosphere great again
>>77360812
Fuck off you've got nothing to back that up.
I've lived in the EU all my life and it's only benefited me. I've been able to learn in Europe and travel abroad for free. We have cleaner air and the EU gives us money for being a large member.
Change comes from inside
>>77360839
Get me a job please lad
man I suck yo dick
>>77359790
Did an EU Question Time style event at Southampton University. I was on the panel for Brexit.
Currently finding the 7 best articles/pictures, etc on Brexit to share one a day in the last week to the referendum!
>>77360571
>>77360763
I'm leaving her to figure out the public service meme on her own, she'll find out in time. But again, thanks a lot for this level of advice I didn't expect on here, she'll really appreciate this.
>>77360628
don't forget the Suez Crisis
>>77360605
>see how the Metro goes
highly cucked, I would be surprised if they went brexit
>>77360944
Owen pls, go catch AIDS.
>>77360791
Look at those disgusting, inbred lefty faces.
God I want to fire the rail gun right at their ugly faces and see their skulls, teeth and brains smash apart.
FUCK...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-uV1SbEuzFU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXF0n6aojSc
Just imagine one of these beauties ripping their little cuck schooner apart.
AHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAA SOON TM*
>>77360935
Where the fuck is Karen?
What the fuck did you do to her?
>>77360926
>Russia is still a problem.
>Your cooperation is the reason you haven't had a war in 70 years.
What is NATO?
The EU has done shit, it has no military (yet)
>>77360923
The reason is because Remain had a sizable average lead in the polls for many months. Not that Leave didn't occasionally come out ahead, but generally speaking Remain held a consistent advantage. So that is priced into the betting odds, which are of course determined by the number and size of bets on each side.
Moreover, there is some money that is still betting on Remain because they believe that there will be a last minute swing to the status quo.
Come on Leaf, use your head here.
I'm Nigel Farage and I'm in touch with people on the Remain and Leave camps. They're research shows the polls are wrong, it's looking as high as 91% leave, so just stay at the pub like me while we leave, okay? No need to vote, just get comfy. Buy some pints and have a laugh. No need to worry. It'll take care of itself.
>>77360912
I have never heard anyone use that phrase before
How odd yet very british. Here, have an OC Nigel for making me laugh
tfw remain is still more likely
>>77360821
>Start again
No, just create a tariff free trade zone and agreements to keep average tariffs on foreign g/s below 2%, creating a free trade and free market Europe without free movement of people similar to NAFTA would be perfect.
Ireland could reciprocate free movement with UK though so British and Irish could move freely between the Islands as currently only the Irish have free movement to UK outside of EU laws.
>Change comes from inside
>>77357939
hmmmm, lets have a go.
>>77361049
Right here senpai
>>77360530
>>77360732
How perverted
>>77361095
saved 2bh
>>77360791
christ when the toff's actually start taking pity you have to know you're in the wrong
Who here /rebuildhadrian'swallandmakescotlandpayforit/
>>77360628
>>77360976
Yeah desu. I will never forgive the US for what they did to the Empire. They chose Israel over us. For what?!
>>77360923
William Hill have said that Leave will have better odds by the weekend
Seriously though the only people who pay attention to the odds are cucks from r/unitedkingdom who are trying to bury their heads in the sand because of all the polls
https://twitter.com/MichaelLCrick/status/743068947789021184
>>77357879
>>NIGE ON QT - 9 JUNE
I just watched the whole thing.
If eddie is pro remain I would instantly vote leave because he is such an insufferable faggot.
>oh it's for the sake of humanity
>we HAVE TO WORK TOGETHER TO MAKE A BETTER FUTURE FOR HUMANITY
>HUMANITY
Does this fag even have any real arguments? this is pathetic
>>77360321
> Guardian dying
That's what they get for being despicable leftists.
>>77360791
It is not yet too late
>>77361075
Who's this pretty lady? Anyone has her number?
>>77360963
Really? I go to Soton and I never heard it was on
>>77361075
Thanks Nige, you're a top lad
>>77361095
Sometimes I wonder what the average age is on here, if you've never heard that phrase before :/
Still, cheers for the Nigel OC, bud
What do people think about this idea that "people vote for the status quo on the day"
I think it's just conjecture. What if people vote for the patriotic choice on the day? Or the anti-immigrant choice?
>>77361133
Most underrated Jojo
>>77358345
>for every pound we put in we get 10 back?
No "we" don't.
http://www.bankofengland.co.uk/research/Documents/workingpapers/2015/swp574.pdf
>>77360944
Your father shouldn't have come inside.
Selling your sovereignty for short term gain is stupid, stopping being such a little bitch many people died so your country could have self determination. You would give up all that for cheaper travel?
>>77360944
>dubs
>owen jones
>gives money for large members
adds up
>>77361241
delete this
>>77361215
Elizabeth Warren
>>77361215
DUDE 27 MARATHONS LMAO
>>77360944
Owen, stop
>>77357879
So when do you guys actually vote on this?
>>77361241
this is my dream
>>77360926
Its an argument for Brexit. It suggests the country's of Europe become a single state against their will, without their knowledge, enforced by their governments. It suggests the EU ideal is more important than the party's of government. The British would not be pleased to learn they had been part of a 100 year plan without their knowledge / consent.
>>77361252
Fear of the unknown
>>77360963
>Currently finding the 7 best articles/pictures, etc on Brexit to share one a day in the last week to the referendum!
Daniel Hannan's top six reasons are good
Brexit: Facts Not Fear is also good
>>77361342
23rd of June
>>77360973
If there was a private message feature I'd give you some contact info even, but that's not possible unfortunately and I don't want le epic trowels to arrange 4,000 messages a day of porn and Trump spam to my inbox.
My personal advice is consulting companies, the best bet for people who are bright, have some math / stats background but aren't specialised (eg finance, engineering), and also have demonstrated some strategic thinking (IR degree).
Pitch it like this: She can save the world, improve public services, and make a damn good dime in the process. My sister tried to work in Education policy but then hated it so much she bailed and now works at Deloitte doing public sector consulting for like twice the pay.
Godspeed friend. I'll be chilling in the britpol threads if you have any followups.
>>77361342
June 23
>>77361001
I'm not so sure, they backed the Tories the last 2 elections and they have a lot of working class readership.
Doubt it would make any difference though really
>>77361292
I am now #LeavePeeved
>>77361386
>>77361386
>>77361386
NEW THREAD
>>77361292
He is a troll, nobody genuinely believes the EU is giving Britain money to be a member when Leave has pushed the £10B net contribution so hard.
>>77361342
Next Thursday
>>77361241
karen is pure you shit
>>77361176
Secretary of State for Defence Rt Hon Nigel Farage
>>77361375
>>77361391
Well then, I wish you luck.
>>77361176
OH SWEET JESUS ITS HABBEING
>>77360943
But the people behind the EU want them to be a member because it would be the ultimate sign that Europe has moved on from it's Christian past. Never mind that Turkey's slipping more and more into Islamic Fundamentalism every day.
>>77361105
If it were only Western European countries then freer movement wouldn't be a problem. I'd also be happy to have free movement with Canada, Australia and New Zealand. The problem with free movement is when you have countries that are wildly different economically and culturally so you get big migrations in one direction.
>>77361342
ON INDEPENDENCE DAY
>>77360628
the falklands?
where we gave you AIM-9L missiles for your Harriers which then downed 17 argie aircraft with them?
where we gave you Stinger missiles and your SAS then scored the first confirmed kill with a FIM-92 Stinger?
Where we shipped extra fuel and ammunition to ascension island for you task force?
Where we offered you an entire aircraft carrier if something ever happened to the HMS Hermes?
yes we "betrayed" you
>>77361462
>pure
>>77361363
Precisely, but mass immigration is an example of the unknown.
People recognise that our membership of the EU is on a trajectory, not static
>>77360605
The London Evening Standard is in. It doesn't stop running editorials by the likes of Nick Clegg and screaming about how London is a diverse non-racist city and so should vote Remain.
>>77358074
Didn't they want to remain in the EU if they left the UK?
>>77358611
Tonuser, you're back!!!
>>77360436
http://www.cityam.com/241448/what-you-need-to-know-about-the-new-vaping-legislation-coming-into-force-tomorrow-
the eu are vaper haters
can anyone make a fancy vaper hater meme?
>>77361624
>source: my ass
Which way did you vote on the UN's resolution on the Falklands, again?
>>77361164
>They chose Israel over us.
the kikes were in control of both UK and US
>>77360363
Don't blame me, I voted for the UKIP and Conservative guy. All the other idiots voted for the lying Muslim who's broken multiple promises, banned sexy women from advertising on the tube and is campaigning to surrender our sovereignty forever.
>>77361376
No bother, it's just good to know that there's someone who already become successful following the path she's taking. I've forwarded your advice to her and it's made her feel a lot better about her degree, actually.
I was thinking about going into consultancy myself as an engineer eventually, but I wasn't aware that it was as good an option for those that aren't as specialised.
See you round lad.
>>77359092
>Vote Leaf
>>77361176
Would that be selling out if he takes it?
>>77361624
That was after the French stopped the supply of Exocet missiles.
This was after Thatcher ripped you a new hole and told you to back the fuck off because you were scared of the Soviets propping up Argentina and creating another communist state on your doorstep.
Sure you helped after the work was done. Just like everyone else, when it's too late. When the damage has been done, when Argies move in and seize control, putting civilians at risk.
You don't send a patrol vehicle nearby despite being closer to watch the naval movements of their navy and what their forces were doing.
NOTHING. But fair is fair, we didn't help you in Vietnam when you got on all fours, said "LUBE ME UP BABY PLEASE" and begged us to pump your arse full of lead and bombs to aid you.
So we'll call it even.
>>77361216
Mostly older locals came. Might have been for the best, imagine a packed sjw student audience.
>>77361376
>>77361861
Why don't you both just use a throwaway email?
>>77361061
Did you even read it? It was written in 1923, and probably by fascists, not communists.
By bringing up NATO you are agreeing with the author.
Everything this author said was correct. Although I take umbrage in the emotional argument, they are right in that Europe is no longer a rich colonial power and cannot afford internal war.
Again: the reason Europe is suffering is not because of the EU, but because those in the EU made bad economic decisions.
Collectivization, whether companies or countries, makes you stronger, but also magnifies errors.
Stay in the EU; but make better decisions.
Tax the shit out of the rich, cancel your personal debts, and make the bankers pay for
your recovery.
There is not a single one of your countries that can survive on their own, with players like the USA and China.
>>77361176
Boris is trying to dispose of him before he does real damage to the Tories, it seems. I'd love to see Lord Farage, but it seems like it would be something of a setback in the long term. By quarantining him to the Lords they can permanently remove the threat they they'll have to deal with him in the Commons.
>>77361906
Not sure, he'll have literally achieved all he set out to do. How do you sell out after that?
>>77361194
slipped up and called the man a cunt in front of little irish catholic nan.
Apologised instantly
Nan couldnt stop laughing.
Said shes voting out. Much cake was eaten.
>>77361861
Cheers mate.
International Relations is surprisingly versatile, depending on what she looked at specifically. I myself focused on military and diplomatic strategy and the economics of the military-industrial complex (because it was interesting and cool and it fit nicely with my business modules) and then talked about what I learned in my job interviews. I even recommended to the interviewer random Cold War strategy texts like Defeating Communist Insurgency by Sir Robert Thompson and Arms and Influence by Thomas Schelling. A degree is a lot of what you make of it. If she spec'ed in Intl Law she can always do le law school route.
Consulting is really great if you can get it, it's extremely difficult to get through the process but if you do your homework and apply to everything you can get your hands on in the industry sometimes magic can happen.
Godspeed my friend.
>>77361326
for the love of god, put nigels face on that!!
>>77360926
The EU prevents action and stagnates, it riles up Russians and then runs away behind NATO. It forms commissions and committees and other nonsense without doing anything. Almost all of its members don't spend the NATO required GDP and not all its members are in NATO. It has an awful security policy, a disastrous foreign policy and no sense of defence thinking at all.
>>77361194
#weareallbrussels
>>77361784
diplomacy is sometimes a show and actions speak louder than words my sources
Aim-9l
>Its first use in a large-scale conflict was by the United Kingdom during the 1982 Falklands War. In this campaign the "Lima" reportedly achieved a kill ratio of around 80%, a dramatic improvement over the 10–15% levels of earlier versions, scoring 17 kills and 2 shared kills against Argentine aircraft.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AIM-9_Sidewinder#AIM-9L
FIM-92
>21 May 1982 an SAS soldier engaged and shot down an Argentine Pucará ground attack aircraft with a Stinger
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FIM-92_Stinger#Falklands_War
Ascension
>The nearest forward base to the Falklands was on the British island of Ascension. The facilities there were run by the United States but they released their strategic stockpiles on the island. Chief among these was the provision by the United States Air Force of aviation fuel. The US forces provided a total of 12.5 million US gallons (47,000 m3) or about 40,000 tons for British aircraft
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_logistics_in_the_Falklands_War
HMS Hermes
>Ronald Reagan made secret plans to loan Britain a U.S. warship if she lost an aircraft carrier during the Falklands War, it has emerged.
The then-president was prepared to support Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher despite the U.S. being officially neutral during the 1982 conflict.
The stunning revelation was made by John Lehman, the former U.S. Secretary of the Navy, to the U.S. Naval Institute on Tuesday.
Mr Reagan would have loaned Britain the use of the amphibious warship USS Iwo Jima should harm have come to either HMS Invincible or HMS Hermes, which the Royal Navy had deployed to defend the islands from Argentinian forces.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2165945/Not-neutral-Ronald-Reagan-secret-plans-loan-U-S-warship-Britain-aircraft-carrier-lost-Falklands-War.html
>>77362287
why must you do this
>>77359790
Good job, mouth fedora friend :^)k:
>>77360944
>Learn in Europe
Many people learn in European countries; Americans are going in larger numbers to Germany for example for cheap University. You can still learn and travel in Europe after leaving.
>Cleaner Air
Nope! Actually the EU obsession with carbon in the 2000s led to the increased use in diesel engines for commercial and private transport while other countries didn't go down that route and focused on air quality. The result? European cities are swamped in cancer causing diesel particulates and life expectancy is suffering AS A DIRECT RESULT OF EU POLICY. And the EU's answer to their colossal fuck up? Raise taxes on diesel cars and lorries many people bought because they were tax-friendly!
>Gives us money
Nope, EU is a net loss by everyone's figures.
I know you was baiting, but I just wanted to give people more ammo to use in the Fight.
>>77361922
we did far more than the French and French exocets still killed many of your lads.
>>77361194
The left is obsessed about Humanity and Man, not so much about human beings, or Britons/Frenchmen/etc.
Shit lads, new thread?
>>77361354
Well, one, that book is a suggestion for a collective response, not a sinister secret plan hatched by Mormons or the Garden Society.
Two, If something is a good Idea, lots of people are going to come up with it. I pretty sure if a European Union wasn't discussed before WW1 because there was no need.
Look. You are not an economic power in the world anymore, and you have a long history of conflict among yourselves that may or may not be relevant.
My point is that you are throwing the baby out with the bath water. The problem is not in the structure, but in the decisions you have made.
Austerity doesn't work.
And you can survive better if you trade among yourselves more, which is the biggest benefit of the EU.
Stop trying to take over the world and compete and focus on world markets so vigorously that you stab each other in the back, and you can make a nice living within the EU and its simplified trading rules.
Throw that out and instead of having your own pond that is protected, that every once and a while can produce something for the big pond, you will now just be a lot of small fish in a large and dangerous ocean.
There is always a third way. Fire the austerity leaches, and stick with the EU.
>>77362525
So did the American Skyhawks and free-fall bombs you sold them.
Is lordship for farage a poisoned chalice?
>>77362338
This lad is right, but has more to do with Reagan-Thatcher than an overarching "special relationship".
Also I'm fairly sure we purchased weapons systems such as the Stingers and AIM, they weren't "given" to Britain.
>>77363006
absolutely, he shouldn't accept it - we need ukip threatening the tories in the house of commons to stop them veering left
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