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Bean counting aside, is the US really the strongest army in the world?
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Bean counting aside, is the US really the strongest army in the world?
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>>70521944
Yes.
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Well it's certainly the biggest by a large margin, by the way what is the number to the right of the flags?
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>>70522028
The values showcased above are all considered for the final GFP ranking recognized as the "Power Index" (abbrv: "PwrIndx"). PwrIndx scores are judged against a perfect value of "0.0000" which is realistically unattainable due to the number of factors considered per country. Balance is the key - a large, strong fighting force across land, sea and air backed by a resilient economy and defensible territory along with an efficient infrastructure - such qualities are those used to round out a particular nation's total fighting strength on paper; it is not enough to field 10 million men or 20,000 tanks or lead the world in oil production.

Each nation's final ranking also carries with it bonuses and penalties as needed while landlocked countries (ex: Austria) are not penalized for lack of a standing navy - though they do suffer a penalty for not maintaining a viable merchant marine force.
It bears repeating that nuclear weapons are NOT taken into account for this listing. Powers are based on conventional weaponry in inventory as well as other factors such as economic strength, border size, self-sustainability (in regards to wartime resources such as oil), water access etc...
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>>70521944
No other country comes even close to it's power projection abroad, while several countries are capable of defending against them. Probably the top 3 others on your list
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What about things like experience or morale? Some armies may be big but I wouldn't count on them surviving longer conflicts.
Unless Russia did something to fight this problem.
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>>70522144
thank you, I find it a little strange that the perfect score would be 0 rather than say 100
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>>70521944
>rank military
i'm fine with this.

also, anyone has economic power ranks?
'cause, you know, money rules the world.
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>>70521944
>Your dream of a Russian-led future will never come true
>Your country will never be invaded and taken over by Russians and made to interbreed with qt russian girls until your genes cease to exist
>you will never be forced to learn Russian to survive in the socioeconomic international world
>you will never be forced to celebrate Victory Day in your country
>You will never share a bottle of vodka with your Russian overseers
>You will never live a happy life with Кaтя far away from the cities and on the Andes in a large plot of land with lush forests, rocky jagged hillsides and crystaline flowing rivers.
>You will never shake hands with Putin

Why even live familia
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Israel behind egypt...fucking worthless list.
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>>70521944
>Russia
>Asia
got a butthurt coz of that
Russia is originated in Europe, both its capital cities are located on european soil and with some little exclusions all asian part of russia is one big empty space
dafuq they are doing
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>>70522302
Based on what metric?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_%28nominal%29
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>>70522302
maybe you'd be better off with a loo poo ranking
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>>70522302
Obligatory POO IN LOO

Okay, that aside, I didn't know India was bretty strong.

Im OK with this. I like curry.
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>>70522543
>nominal gdp
i think this is what matters the most.
>tfw we are third-largest by purchasing power parity (PPP)

let me google 2015 gdp numbers.

>>70522664
eh, our population is both a blessing and a curse.
we'll just wait for the saturation point, i guess.
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>>70522664

That reminds me, I have some curry from last night to eat.

But before I do, I must poo in my loo
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>>70521944
lol india
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>>70522543
mfw japan is tiny and makes an absolute fortune
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>>70522796
>2015 gdp numbers.
http://statisticstimes.com/economy/projected-world-gdp-ranking.php
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>>70521944
>Russia
>Asia
RRRRREEEEEEEEE
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>>70522985
>pakistan has no projection for 2020
hmm.
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>>70521944
>Russia
>(Asia)
RUSKIES BTFO
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In terms of power projection and equipment, then yeah probably.
If you look at quality of troops, strength, morale, reliance on equipment etc. then definitely not.
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>>70522796
Do you even understand what those numbers mean? As in context with something.
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>>70523542
what's hard to understand in gross domestic product and purchasing power parity?

do you want the dictionary definition?
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>>70523618
No, what those mean in ''everyday'' trade, finance, business context. It seems like you view them as some kind of dick extension.
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>>70521944
There's a pretty good list at Global Firepower
http://www.globalfirepower.com/countries-listing.asp
The only downside is that it doesn't take into account nukes, morale or the willingness to engage in wars.
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>>70521944

>Russia
>(Asia)

i swer on me mum m8
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>>70523743
>it's not a dick measuring contest when someone else is winning!!!!
Hey, as long as you are being relevant in any small way, i think it's a good point in favor of your country.
we are on /pol/, and short of getting into politics ourselves, fapping over such numbers is all we can do.
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>>70523542
>>70522543
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>>70524156
>fapping over such numbers is all we can do.

You don't have much to live for over there, do you?

I mean, you have a way higher GDP (Nominal & PPP), but if you go by per capita, well, it's a whole different story.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_%28PPP%29_per_capita

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_%28nominal%29_per_capita

>>70524263
That is why NATO is such a beauty. You go USA! Woohoo!
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>>70524449
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>>70524449
>per capita
kek.
it's okay mate, USA will take care of you.
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>>70521944
US is weakest military of white pigs and black monkeys and lazy Mexicans
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>>70521944

Depends. We can blow up any standing army on the map but we can't into asymmetrical warfare in either Vietnam or the Middle East.
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>>70524581

>>70524611
This butthurt.

You ranked 125. and 129. at 5,808 (PPP) and 1,688 (Nominal), respectively. What is more important than a nations citizen and well-being. You have over 1.76 billion people, majority of them living in poverty.
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>>70524449
I feel sorry for Scandinavians. They're raised in this political bubble where they're taught that socialism is a kind, common sense proposal against the backwards, American minority-hating redneck capitalism. Scandinavians simply aren't prepared for the real world. Their upbringing walls them in and prepares them to be conquered by the outside world. It's like watching a whole region put itself in chains.
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>>70524449
And then you realize that the US are the highest ranking diversified economy (i.e. ACTUAL economy), instead of oil bubbles or tax heavens.
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i could probably solo the US army tbhfam
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>>70525019
surprisingly big country bhutan, nice scenery

would you side with india or china in war?
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>>70524986
We're pro capitalism, pro free market and pro USA. Don't take memes to heart.

>>70524991
I do and i think the American economy is great. The Norwegian one is also pretty great considering the fact that we still grew when oil was/is dancing between $20 - $40. We're hedged against low commodity prices.
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>>70521944
your ability to waste ammunition and equipment is spectacular due to your huge ass industrial capacity. "hey is that a fort with 5000 men? let's kill all of them using missles and CAS. will only cost 1 billion dollars". however, your generals are useless and i am not sure to what extent you can use the "wasting supplies" method against enemies with intercepting capabilities, like russia.
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india we war you

Pakistan border within 4 hours
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>>70524982
>butthurt
the whole thread knows who's more butthurt, mate.

>1.76 billion
did you just add Pakistan and Bangladesh back in India?
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>>70525205
I said Scandinavia, not Norway. Norway is sort of on the edge of the blast zone, if you will. You benefit from not being completely retarded, but you still breathe that Scandinavian fallout. You people are still submerged in a political bubble.
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>>70525019
B H U T A N
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>>70525019
EXTREMELY RARE
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>>70525328
i'm sure pakistan has a samson option of their own, but you can try.
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>>70521944
they havent won a single war since ww2 despite the fact that they spend the most on military by far and they are proud of it(???)
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>>70525520
>>70525019
one more flag to the collection.
today was a good day.
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>>70525557
Gulf War
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>>70521944
Uk. American revolution is still on, we've just got better things to do lads
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>>70525622
lel
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>>70521944
Perhaps, but every single war you guys have fought was fucking stupid and ultimately disadvantaged everyone except the arms industry and some demagogues
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>>70525382
Go and project your greatness somewhere else. Have at least some kind of self awareness.

>>70525425
We have a mixed economy in the way that our state owns a handful of companies that brings in a lot of revenue for the average anon. That and benefits like ''free'' university, healthcare++ because we pay 3-5% more income tax relative to western world average (depending on your tax class relative to how much you earn).
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>>70524915
Ssssssort of. If warfare were conducted by the U.S. the way everyone was doing 300 years ago (or the way the insectoid southeast Asian nations continue to prosecute war), there would be no contest; an unbridled U.S. - willing to target civilians and support structures for opposing military elements - would be a horror show against any opponent, even if nukes were never mentioned.
It is because the U.S. conducts itself more-or-less according to international expectation that her wars are so shitty and seemingly one-sided. Sad that only the military winners of modern wars seem to be compelled to conform to these regulations.
And yes, Vietnam/OIF/OEF were easily military victories for the United States; they were lost in the arenas of politics and public opinion.
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>>70525527
Nice, if their samson option is real they probably have a limited ranged and will blow up the entire middle-east.
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>>70525557
The North Vietnamese were losing militarily. Any belief to the contrary is completely false.
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>>70525019
oh fuck yes
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>>70524611
P O O
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>>70525719
Into the trash it goes.
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>>70525669
Got distracted with that ole fucktart Napoleon, then some fuckers started a good ole war again with france, then we had some world wars then argentina got shifty. Now we're cleaning up their mess in Afghanistan, we'll take them back once we get back to normal service.
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>>70524986
Do the average American actually believe that we do not have a free market economy in Scandinavia? How burgerbro? Why would you even. It's slightly mixed if we have to go by hard definition but still.
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>>70525817
You can't even take back India you washed up island humpers.
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>>70525699
I mean, it was the same as shooting a retarded child, but we didn't lose.
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>>70525557

Wasn't the KD Ratio in the Vietnam war 10:1 for the americans? They were doing pretty damn well.
They only retreated because the US's citizens pussied out
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>>70525838
See:
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>>70525719
>self awareness
hey, it's your agencies who are putting out these numbers. at least have the decency to accept those and move on.

>>70525734
>limited ranged
>blow up the entire middle-east
haha, it'll be fun watching them flail through all the debacle.
vs India they are losing 4-0.
we created bangladesh, we'll create baluchistan as well.

>>70525853
i don't anyone can now, what with nukes and all.
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>>70522302
When you have over a billion people it's kind of a given you'd be on that list
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>>70525853
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>>70525853
Why would we want to hold on to a country that can't shit in toilets? We dropped them wisely, you fucktards trying running around vietnam and how'd that go. We actually cared about holding on to the Falklands, and we can actually fight a war thousands of miles from our shores.
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>>70525988
Europe and Europe Accessories do not matter. Cry more.
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>>70525890
Don't think so https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Body_count
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>countries other than those top three talking about military power

I'm not even sure you can include China. They're mostly MUH NUMBERS and cheap knockoff hardware.
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>>70526015
>We dropped them wisely
too many young'uns in this thread
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>>70526015
I can't believe you faggots actually take pride in beating Argentina. That's like the US bludgeoning the Congo and never shutting up about it. You used to be the most powerful country on earth. Now you're sitting there ranting about how you're never really trying and how you really wanted to lose all your land.
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>>70525700
>Texans given land and permission to farm and pay taxes
>Once the land is made profitable Mexico wants it back
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>>70525901
You shouldn't take pride in poverty. Especially when the average family brings in an absurd amount of kids to work for them. In poverty.
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>>70525557
U.S. army handsdown. Wait was this suppose to be some shitty meme about vietnam war.
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>>70526149
>tfw texan but A FUCKING LEAF

OBAMA WHAT THE FUCK THIS ISN'T COOL
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>>70521944
Would not fuck with the US military.

The raw firepower you wield on the field speaks for itself. Both micro on infantry level and macro on a 3d battlefield. Simply overwhelming.
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>>70526158
It's not as fun when you can't pretend you's got independence yourselves, go back to shitting in the street.
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>>70521944
Absolutely, in both numbers, technology, funding and most importantly how brainwashed your young fellas are.
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>>70526229
I'M SERIOUS OBOBO FIX THIS NOW REEEEEEEEE
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>>70526163
Probably about the same as yous going on about winning the war on terror, and beating Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan etc, except Argentina actually had a military. A better comparison would be yous organising an expeditionary force in a week, and getting it sent out to a small place for virtually nothing. Except to say this is ours, fuck off.
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>>70526204
>implying.
we could buy you tomorrow. we just don't want more mudslimes.

>>70526253
i'm sure you think you can take us back whenever you wanted, don't you?
try tomorrow morning. we'll see how that goes for you.
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>>70526204
>pic related
i bet you think that's how the entire country lives.
fucking newfags.
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>>70526368
>Argentina was more powerful than Saddam
Fucking kek, friend.

Rule, Britannia, Britannia rule the Falklands. Damn good thing that you were never more powerful than this, or sensible people would be fucking embarrassed.
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>>70526443
Correction: I bet it's how 95% of the country does actually live but I'm one of the 5% who don't shit in streets so harhar you're a newfag.
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>>70525700
So many thing wrong with that image i don't know where to start
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>>70526379
>we could buy you tomorrow
People are dying left and right of starvation and you're talking about buying a nation. Your average citizen doesn't even have a toilet.

>>70526443
http://www.poverties.org/poverty-in-india.html
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>>70526544
>Still waiting for you to find WMD's.
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>>70526579
>5%
now you are just shitposting for the sake of shitposting.

>>70526634
>average citizen
our average nation needs to pick himself with the bootstraps and get to work.
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>>70522950
>mfw
>no pic

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>70522458

>forced to interbreed with qt Russian girls

Uhh... that's not how conquests work senpai. All the men would be immediately killed or worked to death and the women made into sex slaves.
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>>70526657
Still waiting for Cornwallis to surrender. Oh wait.
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>>70526701
http://www.poverties.org/poverty-in-india.html
70% of your population don't have access to decent toilets, let alone have one in their house!
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>>70521944
nope , you're good because you only are fighting against third world shitholes.
If you had to deal with a real superpower you will be fucked if you go alone.
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>>70522506

It sucks when our Pokemon isn't as strong as Russia's Pokemon.
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>>70526776
at least, in england, muslims have access to 1400 british kids for sexual emergencies.
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>>70526741
Let me know how your invasion of Canada went. Wait, why's the White House painted white again? Keks.
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>>70526862
Hahah, you think indians aren't dirty paedo bastards here? You're deluded.
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>>70522458
>implying the subjugated men get any
>implying it won't be Chilean male genes that get bred out of existence while the conquerors get the women

Enjoy your sovereignty
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>>70526701
>our average nation needs to pick himself with the bootstraps and get to work.

Agree, but you have to develop a sustainable system that unleashes human potential and let it compound over time. A high GDP means nothing if your average brother and sister can't nourish from it through hard and smart work.
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>>70525719
Without the oil your countries business model would be unsustainable as fuck.
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>>70526906
Right after I tell you about the Battle of New Orleans.
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>>70521944
SIGNIFICANTLY.

They are leaps and bounds ahead of everyone in the worlds in terms of everything resembling the ability to kill.
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>>70526776
>Updated Jun 2013
we are the only country which is getting better in such areas, all others are only losing their grip.

>>70526953
>deluded
sure man, but now i have to go watch IPL. ciao.

>>70526957
Modi is working on it.
"Make in India" is a great initiative. i'm sure we can take care of the chinese menace.
I'm glad US congress wants to give India an equal preference as NATO countries.
we are pretty much together against china and russia.
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>>70527042
Touche.
But some of us, in 1815 actually had other places to worry about, like a frog who marched into Belgium.
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>>70527037
As of today and the last 20 years? Yes, that is true. But we have oil as of today and we're rapidily shifting focus to ''new'' emerging industries and sectors like renewable energy, IT, finance, robotics (engineering general, just think about all the oil engineers shifting focus), biotech, healtcare and so on.

And we have a lot of assets on hand. That compounds and pays dividends.

You think we're just gonna let all this go? hihi
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>>70525700
Fuck I actually read the whole image before looking at your flag.
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>>70527140
As with every British failure, it's because they just weren't really trying.
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>>70526063
444,000 killed to 58,000 lost is a good ratio I guess, but the whole idea of basing effectiveness purely in body count was a really poor idea
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>>70527452
We were waiting for the kettle to boil. That's why we got to Afghanistan late.
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>>70527137
>Modi is working on it.

I think India is going to do great over time but you have to face and accept the challenges ahead. You might not be one of the best today but that doesn't mean that you can't achieve great things in the future. I'm rooting for you guys along with the US and the West in general.
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>is the US really the strongest army in the world?
yes.
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>>70521944
>France above Britain
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>>70527524
To be honest, if it was against a fairly decent armed force who were military trained and just fighting insurrectionist I'd say it's brilliant but given they were literally mudslimes, I'd say meh.
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>>70527574
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>>70521944
Australia in terms of defence. No force could ever seize and hold any major Australian city, supply lines would be an absolute nightmare and the attrition would wear down any invaders.
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>>70527574

> Bean counting aside
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>>70521944
Unquestionably, best power projection globally by far, top tier nuclear arsenal and pretty good man power. In a total war situation China might eventually edge the USA out if they could hold on for long enough and leech enough technology. As of right now the US army is number 1 though.
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>>70525557
they havn't tried to win a single war since ww2.

which is strongly related with the whole pc culture stuff about not actually killing people when you go to war.
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>>70527574
>US army is the strongest
>Posts pic of the naval air arm
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>>70527816
Korea
Vietnam
Iraq
Iran
Afghanistan
>Haven't tried to win a war
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What's an americunts thoughts on this embarrassment?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22ds4_aZgQI

The RAF regiment are literally the shittest regiment in the British Military.
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>>70522458
I think abbout emmigration to South America sometimes. You could be my slave.
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>>70527685
> hold a city

The best strategy against Australia would be to blockade it. Just let the local horrors finish off the remaining humans.
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>>70528356
We've got food and water to last, fort Australia would be going nowhere. Rearm the populace and build a couple of air craft carriers and we're untouchable, unless it gets dirty.
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>>70528492
Just set up destroyers on the south east coast and bombard your cities.
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>>70522148
That's why I think that if the top 3 could form some sort of alliance, or at least a mutually respectful working partnership, it could bring about a protracted era of global stability the likes of which has never been seen.

For instance, what could the top 3 achieve in concert in destroying ISIS, curbing radicalization and finally bringing order to the ME?
I don't know if it's possible, but I'd love to see us have a go at it.
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>Air Force and Naval Aviation pilots are almost entirely white
We should disband both of them. They have institutionalized racism to such an extent that it's harming the effectiveness of the US military
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