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Why do the Right so often accuse the Left of appealing to emotion instead of logic when they themselves are the worst offenders?
>muh racial pride
>muh culture
>muh god
>muh freedom
>muh guns
There's nothing wrong with appealing to emotion, but I'm just curious as to why the Right so often use it as a criticism when their emphasis on "moral values" makes them just as emotional, if not more.
>>70429109
moral values are not based in emotion
western morals are what made western civilization great. Destroying them will destroy western civilization. It's the right thinking into the future and being afraid of what happens. That's not emotion, that's called having a brain.
we get pissed off because we say "Hey, maybe we shouldn't destroy western civilization"
and all you retards can respond with is
>b-b-but RACIST
>MISOGYNIST PIG
>THINK OF LE POOR FAGGOTS THAT CANT FUCK LITTEL CHILDREN LIKE OH MY GOSH YOU NAZI
>why do you want to support western civilization you know that like africa and shit, right?
>you know we destroyed africa, right? white people are evil
>check your white privelege, racist. we can't do anything good for white people
over and over again
it's as if you're literally babies.
>>70429367
>moral values are not based in emotion
appeal to them usually works at emotional level
>>70429367
But moral values are very much rooted in emotional reasoning. They've shifted hugely over time, not by any objective measured standard, but relative to the Zeitgeist; the general "feeling" of the populace, literally the "spirit of the age."
If you actually cared about cultural history you would realize that values have changed vastly over time. For what it's worth, I am not a liberal. I acknowledge the fallacy of the gender pay gap; I think that opening the door to thousands of refugees who will never assimilate is a terrible idea. I think white guilt/self-hatred is one of the most depressing things currently happening in our culture; I do think we need to reaffirm a sense of cultural pride in the population to foster a sense of unity.
At the same time I support the rights of LGBT people; acknowledge that minorities are underprivileged and targeted by police and that rape or sexual harassment is a legitimate concern for many women. The point is that these values are consistent with, and build upon our existing values of equal rights in conjunction with fact. Islam however, is at odds with it.
If you truly prioritized fact over emotion, you would hold opinions that were both "left" and "right". You see things too black and white faam.
>>70429109
because being emotionally invested in rationalism versus emotionally invested in emotions are different things. Further, the left try to censor dissent, while freedom of speech and thought is a crucially human value in the civilized world.
>>70430727
>emotionally invested in rationalism versus emotionally invested in emotions
Do you not see your own idiocy?
>>70429367
Morals like fuck those Muslims?
You cunts turned on the American dream when it was economically convenient. You're as unprincipled as the next person.
>>70430785
Being emotional on basis and research rather than acting on offense and appeals to emotion are pretty different approaches to thought. Emotion will be involved in politics to an extent always as emotions are part of the human experience, how much you decide to let it influence your thought and dictate your actions is the question.
>>70431016
Letting emotions influence research and thinking contradicts rationalism.
>>70431016
>Emotion will be involved in politics to an extent always as emotions are part of the human experience, how much you decide to let it influence your thought and dictate your actions is the question.
I agree, which is why I'm critical of the Right for claiming absolute rationalism. Our ideologies are formed by our sensibilities and then we test evidence against them. It's impossible remove emotion from this process and obviously there is some oscillation between emotion and rationalism, but it's very childish to claim that "I'm emotional about facts, and they're just emotional!" You simply have to accept that their ideology is different.
If we test evidence against our existing beliefs and find them to be incompatible then we can adjust our beliefs to suit evidence. To claim that white pride or nationalism is an inherently rational position is just daft.
>>70429109
I'm more booty bothered about people on the religious right complaining about SJWs when their only arguments for banning things is 'G-d is triggered by this'
>>70429109
>>muh freedom
>>muh guns
bait
>>70429700
that's because of democracy.
If you want people to vote for you, you need to appeal to their emotions.
>>70430218
agreed, it's just comparatively, the left is much more emotional.
>thiknk of le children
>>70429109
To be honest; I agree. There is nothing wrong with appealing to emotions. Right wingers generally appeal to concepts like honour and pride, left wingers generally appeal to self loathing and submission.
>>70434899
See: Norwegian politician who got raped by a Somali then cried about how his rapist shouldn't be deported. Leftism is psychological negation of everything that is good and true. It's really self loathing and the worship of everything inferior as opposed to self empowering and worshiping the superior of right wing thought.
>>70434779
>think of le children
Isn't this the phrase employed by right-wing puritans in response to moral "degeneracy"?
>>70429700
Going through the logical and philosophical reasoning behind moral values every time you want to convince someone would be insane
>>70434899
>>70435127
Yeah I saw that Breitbart article. Anecdotal but still a valid example of liberalism taken to the extreme. I would argue however that it's a case of not employing a sufficient emotional response. The man is not incorrect that the Somalian man is a rapist because of the conditions he was raised in. His conclusion that he should not be punished for it is the natural response of an overly rational ideology that accepts determinism, but fails to recognize the subjective value of self interest and maintaining a culture free of that kind of alien influence.
Just as a side note: can we stop categorizing these people as "leftists" on /pol/? They are liberals. Traditional leftist politics aren't so limp.
>>70436082
He was a self declared far left socialist, in Norway, it's safe to assume he passes criteria for "traditional left". The traditional left doesn't really exist, just echoes within people like Galloway. The far left are caught up in exactly the same SJW bullshit as the "liberal left". Maybe there are some hardcore Stalinists or something who reject it but generally speaking in the west if you go to a socialist or anarchist meeting or whatever you are gonna have to make sure you have your pronouns in order and have prepared your jaw for Islamic dick sucking.
>>70436663
Yeah it's a shame. I joined my University's Marxist Society because I'm interested in the theory and they really just hold meetings about refugees being welcome, "Islamophobia" and long diatribes about marginalized groups. The economic and philosophical theory has really been hijacked.
>>70429109
I see both sides pumping up how logical and rational they are while at the same time citing facts that only support their side of the argument. Usually people who overplay the rationality card are the biggest douchebags out there.
If you accept that there is no ultimate truth and that the human brain is always going to be limited and corrupted by biases, the concept of rationality is bullshit anyway.
