As far as I can remember, the alt-right started as a white nationalist movement with voices like Richard Spencer's and AmRen adding to it. It wasn't about legal immigration, but just a complete stop to migration to prevent further endangering ethnic Europeans.
Did the Trump movement hijack it?
>>76006712
The alt-right is being associated with Trump in order to make Trump look bad. Remember, American media hates the alt right.
>>76006712
(((Richard Spencer)))
>>76006712
pretty much
the movements atmosphere is also more about hatred than respect, explaining the various riots and hate mongering thats happening across the west.
instead of mutual understanding we got enmity.
never has once in my life whites are being hated across the world.
The powers that be saw the potential in the alt right scene and is now in the process of taking it over so that they can control the opposition.
>>76006712
>white nationalist movement
I.e. absolute garbage.
Thanks god it's been hijacked.
Cancer from beginning to end.
National socialism is the only answer to todays society, see WW2 for proof (Hint: Capitalists and communists fought against Germany).
>>76009851
This.
Trump is just a softer viable mainstream face. I don't think any alt righters have any illusions that he's some Jew hating white nationalists. Step one should be getting a handle of immigration. That's just phase one. If we fail here we probably fail completely.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LerqQ3PCX_g
>>76006712
>The Alt Right is a white nationalist movement
No, that's the white nationalist movement.
The Alt Right is an intermediate, baby-steps. You can't go full swing too quickly int his leftist dominated era.
http://www.jrbooksonline.com/pdf_books/bolshevism_from_moses_to_lenin.pdf
People here should read this short book, it pretty much explain that any political movement that doesn't exclude jews actively will be hi-jacked by them.
>>76009851
White nationalism only applies in the new world, who're European mongrels but it still applies to eurocucks in the sense of ethnic self-determination.
Depends whether you view the alt-right as a consistent ideology or just a collection of differently minded individuals
I assumed it was the latter for a while, mostly young white male conservatives sure, but united more by their opposition to the centre-right establishment that is the closest they have to representation than one consistent belief system
You have the 14/88 stormweenie faggots who are mostly focussed on race, and you have those who consider themselves more libertarian and are more concerned by attacks on free speech or other liberties
If you see the alt-right as merely one of these things sure you could get that impression, but I don't think that's what it is
The name itself adds to this, ALTERNATIVE right
The most defining characteristic, given that it's in the name, is how it is an alternative option to the establishment cuckservatives
>>76009851
Agree.
Overt racism is blue pill material.
Storm niggers are still niggers.
>>76006712
Funnily enough the alt-right doesn't even dare to name the Jew, in fact people like Milo are in his words "viciously loyal to Israel". What a waste of time.
>>76006712
It started out as one thing, the jews saw it as a threat and attempted to become both the alt-right heros and villains.
They want to control it, but it's like a slippery fish made out of memes.
>>76010011
But that cannot happen today. It was possible then because Germany was in the midst of chaos, and there was no real establishment of power. Many different factions fought with eachother, which created warring room. Today most countries are under Jewish influence heavily, and any chance of an NS movement succeeding is extremely slim.
>>76006712
i miss the days when /pol/ was a stormfag board
>>76006712
A. FUCKING. FAGGOT. KIKE.
SERIOUSLY /POL/ I THOUGHT YOU WERE SMARTER THAN THIS SHIT.
THE JEWS ALWAYS PULL THIS SHIT, THEY ALWAYS INFILTRATE. ETERNAL VIGILANCE!
>inb4 he's Catholic
Yeah and Lenin was an Atheist.
>>76009851
>Jewish nationalsim = muh ethnic purity
>White nationalism = racist
>>76010271
Alt right is more than anything a white nationalist movement. Outside things have become part of it now but at it's very core it's white nationalism.
>>76010011
This. Capitalism is easily hijacked and subverted by the commie kikes.
>>76010412
The Alt Right movement is separate from Trump
Spencer always said that the cuckservative republican party needs to be demolished, and Trump is doing just that
Trump has shown that you can win elections by promising alt-right stuff like ban on Islam and deportations (even if Trump wants a touchback one)
Basically Trump has opened the door for mainstream white identity politics
he is not alt right, but the next one will be
>>76006712
The faggot Milo has piggybacked for his own gain, he doesn't give a fuck about 99% of the stuff most of us believe. The only reason he's against the migrant invasion of Europe is they are Muslim & want to throw him off a roof & not stick their cocks in him.
If it was all non-Muslim niggers invading Europe, that future aids victim would be the head of the EU fan club.
>>76006712
The alt-right is supposed to be about fighting for free speech in its purest form, in which no form of "hate speech" is excluded. That's why Milo is in charge.
>>76010327
No need to bother with semantics. Nationalism is nationalims. If you're a British nationalist you're a white nationalist. German nationalist? White nationalist.
>>76010805
Milo? not really
He bizarrely arguments that we are actually not serious with what we say, he does not support free speech but right of satire
>>76010718
>/pol/ will excuse this
You sound alright Britfriend. Keep up the good fight and good luck with Brexit.
>>76006712
It's a BIG tent.
Just like the one in my pants.
As an oldfag I remember Pat Buchanan and Paul Craig Roberts saying exactly what Trump said 15 years ago and reading VDare. They predate the Alt-Right but are essentially the same thing. The left has simply reached a new level of insanity with identity politics and third wave feminism and people like Milo and Molyneaux are talking about it. I don't quite get why people have latched onto Milo. There are much more interesting people on the Alt-Right. I know some of them.
>>76006712
The alt-right is a Jewish construct; it was formulated in order to lump all Trump supporters and fringe right-wingers (many of which disagree with other right wingers like right libertarians, etc) under one easily identifiable label.
It's a way to discredit anything that isn't a democrat or cuckservative as "fringe" and "crazy conspiracy theory racists."
>>76010519
Looks like we need to create a little chaos. Watching the news lately I'd say it looks to be a nice start. Blacks rioting, Whites and Mexicans fighting in the streets. Extreme bitternerness and resentment on all ideological sides. I think there will end up being some level of choas in the coming 5-10 years. Perhaps even sooner. I just don't see how all this is just going to die down tomorrow.
>>76010327
not really
White nationalism is the reason why serbs vote for FPO in Austria, and why alsacians vote for Front National
Europe has a sense of common solidarity against Islam that one can't ignore, and that goes beyond christian concerns (specially given that all the christian churches now side with Islam)
>>76011149
>The alt-right is a Jewish construct
wat
The Alt Right existed waaaay before Trump, in both Europe and America, in the form of the American New Right and the French New Right and a coalition of related blogs
>>76006712
The Alt-Right is run by Jews. It was already hijacked.
You faggots keep sucking cocks and going
>garble suck slurp BASED (((MILO))) XDDDD
>GARBLE SLURP YUM BASED ((HOFF SUMMERS)))
They have you right where they want you.
>>76010550
Milo has nothing to do with the alt right. He just supports and scoffs at the idea that the alt right is anything other than anti pc provocateurs.
Some people tolerate him and think what he says ultimately benefits the alt right but he is in no fashion alt right. Why are so many of you confused on what it means to be alt right? It's fucking racism "racial realism" and racial nationalism and traditionalism. Those are it's core tenets.
Nobody ever mentions Mencius Moldbug or Radish Magazine. Those were some of the early Alt-Right websites that outlined the ideology. Thick, long essays detailing issues in contemporary society by plundering the archives. They promoted thinkers like Thomas Carlyle and Monarchists.
It's a far cry from Milo and Breitbart, etc. But I still support Trump. Even if the hardcore, original Alt-Right ideas are correct, they don't have value if they can't be implemented. Trump's the closest we'll get. Alt-Right has come to mean "paleo-conservative" as practiced by young people with memes.
>>76011372
>The Alt Right existed waaaay before Trump,
And that's great, but it's been co-opted by Jews in the US and now used as the new "MRA"
>>76010679
David Duke 2020.
>>76011372
The Alt-right has been reformulated to mean "right-independent voter that supports Trump."
I don't care what it used to mean--that's what it means now due to media re-branding and anyone identifying with it and faggot kikes like Milo should kill themselves.
>>76006712
Alt-right has always been crap. It's for autistic fedoras who think they are too hip to be a paleocon
>>76010949
Exactly, he think the alt right is just satire to provoke the SJWs. Honestly though, I doubt it'll manifest much beyond that.
>>76011441
XenoSystem has made it very clear that Nick and Mencius are Neo-Reaction, not an Alt-Right
They don't consider themselves part of populist movements
>>76006712
Only if you believe that the Alt-Right actually exists, which it does not. It's a label invented give the false impression that there is something unusual or atypical about what the great majority of American conservatives believe.
Most people aren't neocons, and this electoral cycle is cracking the facade that they are. The "Alt Right" doesn't exist, it's just the Right reasserting itself.
>>76010345
The Lolbertarian contingent is what I don't like. They don't realize that Libertarianism is just Neoliberalism on steroids and this is the white man's (actually every man's) worst enemy. Even more than "cultural Marxism". At least the Bernie-bros care about something more than money.
>>76006712
Yes, by people like Milo. He's a fucking Jewish gay cuckold, for Christ's sake, who unironically advocates for race mixing and big corporate monopoly.
The man is the Amazing Atheist of the Right. He's absolute fucking scum and it's disgusting that he's become the 'face' of a movement supposed to be about justice and practicality for the Nation. Just because he's not a complete vomit-inducing hypocrite (advocating for most kinds of nationalism instead of just Israeli, but still not all - Arab nationalism is not valid to the kike) doesn't mean he's any less despicable.
>>76011035
Paleoconservatives are the OGs.
>>76010595
>white
At least Jew is a cultural /ethnic group. What the fuck is "white"? It's a WASP lie that's so vague as to be meaningless.
Ethnic nationalism is better and is more definable than the pseudoscience of race.
>>76011149
Dude, the alt right is little more than /pol/ pulling off 4chans more legendary raid of all time.
>>76006712
It wasn't hijacked so much as broadened into a more general catagory. The tactics of SJWs have driven more and more people who disagree with them into the corners, and many of them took on the label of Alt-Right. Some of this is simply due to SJWs calling people who disagree with them Alt-Right in the same way they say that Trump is Hitler. The result is a dilution of the initial concept into a general movement that dislikes SJWs, and dislikes cuckservatives for bending the knee to them.
>>76011035
VDARE is the best representation of alt-right.
moratorium on immigration, uphold america's heritage: we're european whites, that's what our natural citizens should be, english should be our official language, etc.
>>76011734
Most people identifying as right-libertarians are actually just moderates that believe in closed borders, liberties not being infringed upon, less regulation of private enterprise by the government, dismantling the NSA and other draconian institutions that violate innocent American's rights, etc.
They don't usually identify with the whole "we should have open borders and the government should basically do nothing besides protect our country from an attack" side of libertarian ideology.
>>76011814
because a faggot is the closest relatable thing after years of liberal brainwashing, eventually the jig gets so retarded they become disillusioned
milo and cucks still champion 2nd wave feminism
anyone who has looked deeply into feminism can see the correlation between more rights, more leftist policies, and declining female happiness
unfortunately, there is no going back and you'd be insane to suggest it
>>76011279
>tfw I want to see all Europeans around the world purge their lands and unite as the Greater European Empire and conquer the whole God damn world for outselves
>>76011686
Really? I use Alt-Right and Neo-Reaction interchangeably. Thought the latter term had just fallen out of favor as the movement went mainstream. Either way, like I said, Neo-Reaction has great ideas, but it's worthless if it can't be implemented. Trump, Alt-Right is the closest we'll get. Even if Milo is annoying at times. He still pisses off the right people.
>>76011860
>Pseudoscience of race
>>76011483
The Alt Right is not a political party, I am not sure how can you co-opt something that does not have an explicit organization
>>76011598
Trump's link with the Alt Right is an alliance of convenience.
His main function right now is to send the message "white people in America have not surrended yet", and to move the Overton window
>>76012121
Trump is not the closest we will get
The message that the Alt Right wanna send is that White People will, for now on, start to play Identity Politics, the American Dream is dead
>>76011860
>pseudo science of race
back to r/thedonald
>>76011691
>it's just the Right reasserting itself.
That's true. That's why cuckservative is such a popular term because alt right feels it is conservative but without the willingness to sacrifice everything for acceptance.
>>76012040
That's called being a Classical Liberal, AKA not a retard. Right-Libertarian doesn't exist, as the American 'right' (conservatism) is directly and diametrically opposed to libertarian ideology.
>>76011860
Anyone who actually believes that race is a pseudoscience also believes the whole of evolutionary biology is a pseudoscience. Why, exactly, are humans exempt from the laws of evolution that dictate genetic arrangements in every other living thing?
Go back to plebbit, or wherever you summerfags crawl out of.
>>76010345
no the alt-right was always about race, because it's literally the most important and defining issue of our era. just without the more cultish aspects of stormfront et al. lolberts are lolberts, they aren't alt-right, they are just effete retards and degenerates who would happily see europe become a brown islamic mess if it meant they could fuck 10 year old prostitutes legally and dude weed lmao.
>>76006712
Trump didn't but that jewish faggot Milo certainly did
>>76006712
you have a shit long term memory
>>76012226
>Trump's link with the Alt Right is an alliance of convenience.
It doesn't matter because the movement is discredited by talking heads like Milo that utilize it for attention and profit and Alex Jones who the media has lumped into the alt-right.
Alt-right in the mind of normies has now become synonymous with "whack job."
>>76010718
I have no problem with fags and fag enablers, hell I'd have a hard time counting how many gays I consider friends. But this particular fag seems like nothing but a shit stirring subverter who is working to weaken this sort of movement. I mean shit, I have a couple good friends who are real deal yids by birth and they openly praise Hitler and consider themselves white. You are who you choose to be.
>>76011780
You guys are the ones who keep saying he's alt right. No one but you all think this is the case. Shut the fuck up about him. He's not alt right. Does not even remotely consider himself as such and as you blatantly point out, he believes in almost nothing the alt right does. SO stop fucking associating him with us yourselves.
>>76011860
>evolutionary biology is psuedoscience
I suppose that could be.
>>76012529
Well, I certainly think that histrionic national libertarians like Alex Jones fit very well within the Alt Right
I do doubt that the normies even have a clearly formed idea of what "alt right" means
>>76012607
Trust me, I'd love if Milo wasn't associated with the 'alt-right' at all, because as a nominal fascist, I'm supposedly 'alt-right' to the media. When he's called an 'alt-right leader' by every major outlet and stand that he appears on, only a mouth-breathing moron like you could possibly believe that 'No one but you thinks he's alt-right!'
It doesn't matter what he thinks he is, because pop politics define him as the face as of the alt right. It'd be better for everyone if he dropped dead tomorrow.
>>76012531
I would say that the weirdest thing about Milo is not that he is gay (even the nazis had Ernst Röhm) but that he fucks STD-infested nignogs
>>76007848
This
Anyone who accepts the alt-right label is a Cuck
"The best way to control your opposition is to lead them"
>>76006712
I din do nuthin... those kids are makin up lies!
>>76012407
>That's called being a Classical Liberal, AKA not a retard.
Well, both Rand and Ron Paul supported the aforementioned and they considered themselves libertarians, so why didn't you niggers support Rand? It seems like nu-/pol/ has turned libertarians into some sort of hardcore SJW boogieman that cannot into roads.
i feel as if the alt-right in actuality is the "common-sense" movement
"reactionary" is used by the left as a pejorative, but what's needed now most of all is a negation of the suicidal leftist ideology
this way, interestingly enough, there's nothing really to hijack.
our enemies provide all the fodder with ridiculous antics. we are not a hivemind, we do not need an orthodoxy.. in fact we should shun the rigidity of the left. we should be the formless that sun tsu spoke of.
we are a reactionary movement. a negation of the contemporary left
from there, imo, we leave the state of politics to whatever would come out of us, the alt-right.
it's too early to say what will be at the moment. let things take their course.
>>76012365
If you google alt right and click on news you can read all about what liberals think of the alt right. Lately, it seems many are beginning to realize that liberal racial narratives over the past several decades have been abusive to some degree. They realize this is just white people playing their game. I don't believe we will turn back from this without it being ended with chaos, whatever the outcome be.
>>76012701
Race is a meaningless construct
>>76011333
Wasted trips.
Untermensh trash
Milo is based, fuck off anti-semites, they're (the jews) are our allies against islam
>>76012365
The closest we'll get for now. Do you think there's a better alternative for the immediate future?
>>76012008
VDare is paleocon not alt right
>>76006712
also its never been called the alt right
that term magically showed up to stick all of us in a box
>>76012976
Rand's weak, and I'm of the belief that America needs a strong leader to cut down all the bullshit corrupt politic rope that we've hung up. Lolberts became less popular after 2012's failures.
>>76006712
>(((Milo)))
>(((Richard Spencer)))
>(((Alt-Right)))
The word "alt-right" is literally a Jewish fucking ploy for people like Milo to latch on to and subvert.
We're literally talking a faggot Jew here, who is bragging on twitter about sucking nigger dick. He's not a WN because he's not fucking white, and he doesn't believe in white nationalism and he has no stake in it -- he sees it as a joke and capitalizes on it.
>>76012860
Fascism != Alt Right
the Alt Right tends towards paleolibertarianism when it comes to individual freedom, that is why it is an entirely different, anti-puritanical movement
>>76012977
Eh
We're gonna need to go real fucking far right to fix the problems caused by the left
These non-whites gotta go if we want to have a country 100 years from now
>>76012389
>oriental
Why is this discussing rugs?
>>76006712
>Ginormous unrepentant faggot
>Wearing a crucifix
>>76010011
>Capitalists and communists fought against Germany
fdr was not a capitalist
>>76013013
And colours just a spectrum. Guess I can speed through red lights now huh?
>>76013013
>2016
>being anti science
>>76013013
>genetic distance is a meaningless construct
>>76013060
kys, seriously.
>>76013173
It came from Richard Spencer ultimately.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G74sCg_n9rY
>>76013211
>That's called being a Classical Liberal, AKA not a retard
>Unironically supports a guy that is the complete opposite of that (a retard according to your own definition)
I mean, I'm going to vote Trump since he's preferable to Hillary, but that doesn't make your rational any less retarded and hypocritical.
>>76013260
>gets btfo
>hurdur haha oriental is like rugs!!1
Come on lad, I am not even white-nor am I incredibly fond of whites in the [current year]. Despite this racial differences are very real. We are not exempt from evolutionary biology.
>>76013411
No man, I'm fucking scared of islam and the future demographics of europe. Israel is the only one that's actually taking a stance, and so they are my friends
>>76013505
>**rationale
The Jews keep forcing me to make typos.
>>76013076
A lot of things need to happen first before better alternative develops (I think that Greece finally declaring bankrupcy may be the spark that ignities such series of events, but it looks like Germany is going to keep that country afloat no matter what, the enemies of the people seem to be well aware of what is at stake)
Trump can get away with being slightly alt-right because he is billionarie, if he wasn't he would not have media access
>>76013218
where are you getting this from? breitbart? alt-right is authoritarian nationalism.
>>76013212
NOBODY CALLS MILO ALT RIGHT BUT ALT RIGHTERS WHO COMPLAIN ABOUT HIM
STOP FUCKING TALKING ABOUT HIM HE HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ANYTHING AT ALL
Spencer isn't a Jew and he popularized the term and basically defined it.
>>76013526
their plan all along
>>76013007
When I read their articles it seems to be pretty much like "Remember how Romney and Bush were racist? Well, conservatives are still racist, but now we are not kidding"
>>76013505
I don't support Trump. You've assumed something that would make me look stupid, without me actually saying it, and then jumped off that conclusion. Don't make assumptions.
>>76011250
Another problem with this is that even the alt-right believes "duh ebul nazoos killed da jooz" meme. In Hitler's days it was a movement without any slanderous attachments. People have been brainwashed today into automatically demonizing anyone with NS beliefs. It will never happen again.
>>76006712
Yes. There was/is real anti-semitism in the true alt-right, but Milo has jacked it and played it off as a joke.
>>76013731
So you support Hillary or Bernie, then? Top kek.
>>76013612
Not really
Surely you noticed that Trump said that trannies could use either bathroom and no one batted an eye?
Authoritarian social conservative is not the defining factor of the alt-right
>>76013809
wont work though. alt-right is too diffuse and too edgy.
Alt-right is Anti-PC.
>>76013222
it can be reversed, there's always hope.
it's the only thing the alt right can be.
no real political movement can be done over the internet. everybody needs to get that through their heads. the important thing of substance that we can do is disrupt the narrative of the left. most people aren't diehard leftists -- they just grew up in leftist public schools and consume leftist media.. so they're leftists by default. if we provide a counter balance to left's version of things, as is already happening, then, well, i don't know the future but we'll get closer to saving the west, just by taking out le trash degenerate ideology
>>76013612
Form of government is pretty secondary among who you ally with in the alt right. Libertarians pal around with authoritarians as long as they are traditionalist racial nationalists. People really need to stop trying to define it beyond that. It's an alliance of traditionalist nationalists. The importance of ensuring racial purity and national burders Trumps everything right now.
>I accidently capitalized trumps
I'm leaving it.
>>76013883
No, of course not. Jesus christ, what part of 'Fascist' do you not understand? I don't support any corrupt, filthy liar. I'll support a leader when one shows his face. Not through our broken political system.
>>76013523
so they commit the line drawing fallacy?
>>76013526
jews wanted to destroy europe by propagating islam in the first place
we can't trust them completely
>>76013900
because it's completely secondary to more important things that the alt-right like about trump, ie being anti-establishment and anti-immigration. trump doesn't define the alt-right. most of the alt-right would happily ban trannies from existing.
>>76006712
> lets define our ideology goys i mean guys
how about no
>>76010718
There is only one decent faggot in the history of mankind and it's this guy.
>the name is Clodovil
>honest politician (rare thing here)
>nationalist
>said the holocaust never happened
>criticized the government and how expensive it was for the people
>pro gun rights
>he wasn't proud to be gay and defended the family
Everyone decent here dies from cancer or a mysterious accident. I'm pretty sure the Americans/jews killed Clodovil, Enéas and Filinto Müller because they were too good.
>>76013714
Very few articles I've read seemed aware that they are the cause of it all. Most were the a typical bullshit you would expect.
>>76014059
>That's called being a Classical Liberal, AKA not a retard
>Unironically supports Fascism
I'm talking to a 12 year old, aren't I?
>>76013809
Thats because it is a fucking joke. You will never get anyone to hop on with that shit. Milo is trying to frame it as mainstream and accessible to youth as possible.
>>76014066
Ah, yeah you're right about the picture.
Gonna trash it now. Thank you.
>>76014112
> Trump doesn't define the alt-right.
true. they are separate movements
Let's just say that social conservative of the alt right is more pragmatic
>>76013900
Trump is not alt right. Alt right like him primarily because he's a rela life shit poster and believes in border control Again, to the alt right literally everything is secondary to race at this time.
Everyone knows Natt is the official leader of the Alt-Right.
>>76014202
>Thats because it is a fucking joke
why are you people so obvious?
>You will never get anyone to hop on with that shit.
alt-right has become a thing BECAUSE of it's unashamed anti-semitism and racism, not in spite of it.
>Milo is trying to frame it as mainstream and accessible to youth as possible.
to what end? to make it a slightly edgier and memey version of cuckservatism? kys.
>>76014186
Says the guy so limpwristed and pathetic he can't commit to any actual position besides the general hiveminded buzz of an online internet community, one that you likely derive anything close to an 'opinion' from. If anyone's a twelve year old, it's the one displaying a total lack of independent thinking and critical analysis, similar to how a prepubescent will adopt political opinions and thoughts overheard by his parents because they sound nice.
>>76014202
A castrated movement is useless
The Alt Right is going to need some extreme McCarthyism is Western Culture is going to be saved from degeneration
>>76006712
There never has been an "alt-right", there is various fringe groups on the internet with views that conflict the status quo.
The media has clumped them all together and said we're one big extended family.
They include everything from 4chan, reddit, Stormfront, Daily Stormer and MGTOW in that family, and that's just to name a few.
The media always try to label something they don't understand.
It just shows how little they really understand.
>>76009316
You sound implicitly white.
I do feel that the alt. right is being lead in a direction that is too accommodating. If the alt. right is to become successful, it has to be able to draw more lines in the sand and establish more rules as to what it means to consider yourself "alt. right".
I feel that while folks such as Milo Yiannopolus and Gavin McInnes are certainly friendly neighbors of other alt. right figures like Richard Spencer and Jared Taylor, I do not think it is best for them to say that they identify themselves as such. It may not be their intention to "hijack" it, but if they maintain their visibility while not adhering to it properly, people won't get a clear definition of what the alt. right is.
As far as ideology is concerned, it isn't so much as "white nationalism" so much as "European identitariansim". That is, the alt. right involves a lot more scholastic approaches to dealing with establishing why Western civilization exists and how it ought to be maintained in modern times, along with other concepts like "evolutionary psychology" and "archeofuturism".
tl;dr the alt. right is a lot more nuanced than typical stormfaggotry. It's the kind of white pride that you can bring home to mom.
>>76006712
I don't know about you or any movement. I'm just a nationalist who likes to shitpost on /pol/.
>>76012052
this, i don't even care if we conquer it, just unification, and kicking all the other races and traitors out
>>76006712
Legal Immigration is the first step OP.
It would drastically slow down the rate at which the abject poor infiltrate this country.
Trump is not alt right and Milo sure as hell isn't Atl Right.
But Ann Coulter? She is the Fueress!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORSVaz0pozM
>>76014459
>Says the guy so limpwristed and pathetic he can't commit to any actual position besides the general hiveminded buzz of an online internet community, one that you likely derive anything close to an 'opinion' from.
I already listed my positions here: >>76012040
>Most people identifying as right-libertarians are actually just moderates that believe in closed borders, liberties not being infringed upon, less regulation of private enterprise by the government, dismantling the NSA and other draconian institutions that violate innocent American's rights, etc.
You claimed people aren't retarded for supporting these positions (presumably because you agree with me) then turn right around and claim you support fascism (the complete opposite). Ok. I think you're the one that is confused here.
>>76006712
Alt-right is too vague a term. It's like alternative rock.
>>76010595
Jews are white, mate.
> white nationalism
> let`s shill for jews and for ourselves
> jew nationalism
> let`s rob stupid goyims and shill for ourselves
>>76014489
The media is not labelling the alt right
The Alt Right is self-applied label, that exploted as a way to differentiate white nationalists and national libertarians from the rest of the conservative movement when the "Cuckservative" meme went viral, which predates Trump by a few months
>>76014560
well said anon
I endorse this post
>>76014112
Yeah, Trump just sounds like he doesn't give a shit about the issue and wants to talk about things that matter.
>>76006712
What part of it would be hijacked? The alt-right is riding the Trump-wave.
It's still at it's heart a tradtionalist, anti-semitic movement.
Of course its been hijacked, guys like Milo and Cernovich are making big bucks out of the cause, and they would just as easily be SJWs if they could find the money in it.
>>76014437
Alt right has become a thing more or less because of Milo. He has gone from no one to internet celebrity in little more than a year. Don't tell me the years of "muh goyism" on this board have done shit for it.
>edgier and memey
You see Trump understands something that you don't yet, that dumb people make up the electorate, and numbers are the sole necessity of any cause. You don't like Milo pandering to masses because you don't like the masses, grow the fuck up.
>What the alt-right should be
Brownshirts breaking storefront windows
>What the alt-right is
Breitbart memers spoken for by a cocksucking, race-mixing Jew
>>76013211
>rand weak
>trump strong
lol you people really are retarded
>>76014708
Good one, Anon.
>>76014698
I'm a fag but I want Ann to sit on my face
>>76014810
> Alt right has become a thing more or less because of Milo.
Huh? I would say that "Not an argument meme man" has more internet influence than him
Milo has been a fellow traveller, nothing more
>>76014868
I think if Trump fails you're going to see a lot of "White supremacy terrorism".
>>76014459
But are you going to justify how you can be both a fascist and a classic liberal, or are you just going to post another dumbass paragraph of baseless insults?
>>76014982
He has it completely backwards. Milo is only a thing because of the Alt Right. He got famous defending racists online.
>>76015028
That trump wins is not important
the important thing is that the elections needs to be close and messy
>>76014705
No, I'm telling you that your opinions are nothing more than the moderate hivemind expressed most often on here, and that your support for them without any sort of modification is likely due to an inability to coherently organize yourself independently. Classical liberalism is a rational position to take, and agreeing that it is rational and working in certain circumstances is not a show of support, and at no point did I claim that I believe it was the best solution for the present situation. Claiming that a stronger authority is needed to stop a sharp decline is what I am keeping to. Stop making assumptions, Jesus Christ. This is the third time you've made a dumbass assumption, and the third time I've had to explain to you simple connections.
>>76012531
Fags and fag enablers are only accepted in order to destroy the white nuclear family. You should oppose them.
>>76006712
The alt right could do alot worse than having milo attached to them. The alt-right goes hand in hand with trolling and meme magic. The left cannot handle it, and they cannot handle milo. His university tour is genius, i swear the left has a solid vein of autism running through it, they fall intot he trap every fucking time.
>>76009851
Mongol.
No, what you think is the "alt-right" is actually just "the right". The right has simply been repurposed to be compatible with the modern era and what people not associated with the left actually want from their elected leadership instead of going on witch hunts for gay people and banning birth control.
>>76009679
This.
>>76015060
At no point did I claim that I was a classical Liberal and a Fascist. What the hell is with these dumbass assumptions? Either you're samefagging, or you've got just the same drooling inability to think for yourself the other guy does. Learn to work critically or don't bother with politics at all, if you're just going to lift opinions off the average of the place you spend the most time on.
>>76015224
That is like saying that Pim Fortuyn and Ernst Röhm wanted to destroy the white nuclear family tho
>>76006712
>alt right
>A real thing
>alt right leader
Oy vey
If you identify as anything other than NatSoc you don't belong here. This "alt-right" label is just that - a label for attention seeking women and homosexuals to make themselves marketable to media organisations as "spokespeople for the right" whilst right-leaning yet weak and ill-educated internet savvy young men (read: the people who argue with one another about YouTube celebrities) lap up their pandering nonsense. The "alt-right" is a brand, nothing more.
>>76014810
>Alt right has become a thing more or less because of Milo
this is blatantly untrue, the alt-right became a thing when the term "cuckservative" went mainstream, you are probably too much a newfag to remember. milo has done fuck all for the alt-right aside from using the name to promote his own "agenda" (or rather career, as he doesn't actually have any ideology or beliefs of his own) the alt-right has literally grown because of /pol/ and /pol/ memes, with help from 8gag, TRS and yes, the DailyStormer. Milo has done nothing aside form try to prophet from something that was already burgeoning
>>76015288
Don't get platinum mad you authoritarian little bitch. You spend a whole lot of time insulting ideologies and no time coherently defining your own, and when it finally comes out, you're just another "muh degeneracy" bootlicker. Pretty sad.
Jewish controlled opposition
>>76015469
This is not a NatSoc board. Sure a lot of people here have those leanings, but this is just a politically incorrect board, not a Nazi one.
If you want a real NatSoc board why not just go to other chan?
>>76015469
> If you identify as anything other than NatSoc you don't belong here.
/pol/ has always been a combination of libertarian and natsoc posters
That is exactly what ther Alt Right and the Identitarian Movement are: a combination of ideas from both
>>76015766
>This is not a NatSoc board
I don't think you've been here long enough to correct me, friend.
>>76015239
The footage that has come out from these anti Milo and anti Trump protests has probably done more to damage the left than anything in like 50 years. The left whenever they wanted could always just pull out some video of some rustic conservative saying something stupid and successfully depict the entire right as such. Now we can just depict them as infantile spastic brainless maniacs and it's really starting to stick to them. It's now cool to be against the SJWs which really closes the door on liberal idea and opens it for right wing ideas.
>>76015224
Cry some fucking more. I'm homosexual and I spend hours defending your white nuclear family unit. I defend the people who are cautious or skeptical about fag marriage. Don't pretend you know me, cuck.
>>76015792
>/pol/ has always been a combination of libertarian and natsoc posters
/pol/ was more libertarian in the beginning but everyone got redpilled as time went on and people realized that small government is not the cure for the ongoing demographic suicide threatening western civilization.
>>76015792
this
>>76015142
>Classical liberalism is a rational position to take
>But I believe in an all encompassing government that monitors all of your interactions, completely violates your privacy, abolishes freedom of speech and the press, will shoah you if you're deemed a threat to the establishment, etc
You can back pedal all that you want, but I still think you're a retard. If you were truly a fascist, you'd be vehemently opposed to classic liberalism, as you put it, instead of finding it a rational solution in any situation.
>>76015652
Again with the assumptions. I don't give a shit about 'degeneracy', what I care about is what's best for the nation. Clearly, with corporate monopolism on the rise and an ever-increasingly sprawling political system that's less efficient and more corrupt by the day, we need a strong single authority at our head. Moral degeneration is only dangerous insofar as it represents an increase in crime rates and a decrease in national productivity and character, problems that, again, are only solvable through investment of a powerful authority.
Again, stop with your dumbass assumptions, I understand they're all you have in the way of thinking, but that's still no way to talk.
>>76013024
Trips of truth Frodo.
>>76015906
Why would a natsoc board have Ron Paul as their mascot for 3 years?
/pol/ has always been a nazi-libertarian coalition
>>76010718
>The faggot Milo has piggybacked for his own gain, he doesn't give a fuck about 99% of the stuff most of us believe.
Correct. Nobody on the Alt-Tistic spectrum looks to him for leadership or ideas. He doesn't even pretend to be a leader anyway.
Sure sounds like no one can even agree what the "alt right" movement actually is. I've seen 50 different voices say it's this or that just in this thread alone.
Thats why NatSoc is still GOAT and alt right babbies are cancer.
>>76015469
kind of true, nat soc is pretty much the final form of a /pol/ack
I think right now Trump and Milo has brought in a massive queue of newfags and they're slowly making their progression through the libertarian phase. Usually it'd be a small amount of newfags at a time (zimmerman trial).
This is bad for Milo as he is a faggot and will get DOTR'd.
>>76016054
I'm backpedaling on something that I didn't say, but you assumed about me?
Okay, sure. Don't forget how to breathe.
>>76014416
This. Scandinavians will lead us to a white future.
>>76013526
The enemy of your enemy isn't automatically your friend and you're a retard for thinking so.
We need to reject all labels. They need to give everything a pre-defined label, so nobody listens to you. Even if the establisment fails to label you, they've trained their followers to label you, as well. They will try to shove you into their very rigid left/right system, over and over. They may not even be able to comprehend anything else. Never, ever, ever give in. As soon as you accept the label, it's over, you've lost.
Noone hijacked the alt-right movement.
It has been full of beta losers who blame everybody but themselves for their faults when it first began and it sure hasn't changed.
>>76015906
Been here since 2013/14. I know it is mostly a NatSoc board, I'm just pointing out they aren't the only ones who come here, and it isn't strictly reserved for them.
>>76006712
highjacked by jewish faggots?
>>76016331
Fuck off you one Swissfag poster, I know it's you, the faggot trying to hijack Dutch threads.
>>76016074
You insult me for assuming you're a bootlicker, then you spend a paragraph emphasizing how much of a boot licker you are. Guess what baby boy, a big magic government cock isn't going to fix this. A big government cock is exactly why we are here today. Fuck, I hope it all breaks down soon. I want to slaughter you and all your little goose-stepping friends. I want you to see what happens when the American people are loosed from the collar of the state.
>>76016331
>Translation: the alt-right blames jews for things jews are objectively responsible for so therefore they blame jews when they can't get a girlfriend cos theyre all virgins XDXDXDXD
>>76016467
I have never been to Netherland threads, friend.
>>76016097
Well imo this board is ultimate vomit of political incorrect. It tries to combine free masonry, nazis, jews, gypsies, muslims, far left and right, obesity ... to find final solution for pooing in the loo.
>>76016097
Yup. I juggle the two all the time. It's the biggest thing I've ever had to debate myself on. I don't know which to trust.
>>76016660
I don't think anon was implying that a single authoritarian leader is going to legislate to solve our moral problems.
To be honest, I dont think you can revert a lot of the moral problems we have, and it should run its course, and from there we can rebuild.
You are right in saying big government cock wont fix it.
But then you ruin it all saying you want to slaughter people, nigger.
>>76016736
>it's the jews fault I can't get a girl
>it's the jews fault I can't get a decent job
>I am dumb and ugly though, but still the jews
>>76016097
I'd go further and say that /pol/ and myself were once MAJORITY libertarian, but that was years ago, Anon. I think a unification has occurred since, though I wouldn't argue with anyone who says that this place has fallen into total disrepair in the past couple of years.
>>76016347
I'm in agreement with you, and I always welcome the fringe ideologies coming out of the woodwork for a few rounds every now and again (although not tonight, please!). Beats the incessant cuckoldry, flag-baiting and "is X degenerate" threads.
>>76016097
libertarians have no place here unless they are of the "physically remove degenerates", ultra conservative HHH variety. they are degenerate globalist shills and mental teenagers who never got over being told what to do in school.
>>76016142
There's absolutely no need to discuss it. It's really anyone that is against liberal degeneracy and is in favor of white nationalism. All other politics are secondary.
>>76016660
Wow, look at all that edge.
Yes, it's all big government that's ensuring the downfall of America. Big government is the cause of the TPP and the full power behind the modern economy and our political force. Big government places restrictions and ads on google and facebook and twitter to ensure prevalence of opinions in a way that benefits them and allows for greater profit.
Oh, huh, wait. Maybe it's just that when there's too much power in anything, it's abused?
Nah, I'm sure that big corporate monopolies are magic and friendly and always have the best interests of a negligable population of consumers in their mind.
Grow the fuck up and learn to think for yourself. For that matter, learn to fight as well so you aren't reduced to slinging edgy statements over the internet, and one day will be actually capable of competing with even the weakest antifascist.
>>76015973
> huge parades of naked faggots spreading their degeneracy throughout society
> I'm ok with this,I also support the family unit
If only I wasn't on my phone; I have the perfect wew reaction image saved for this
>>76017011
so i'm right, you make a retarded strawman to divert blame from things that people literally are responsible for. pathetic, shlomo.
>>76016331
I see very little self pity from anyone in the alt right. In fact, self betterment is something very largely promoted among them.
ITT: JIDF
>>76017180
>I-it's the jews
>you are a jew for showing me how dumb I am
Also, if you think about it since the jews control everything according to you they are the master race. Not you.
>>76006712
who gives a fuck about this faggot ot the "alt-right"
the latter was never a thing here, I don't know why any of you faggots even identify with it
>>76010011
Sven Svensson, don't you have to build your Cuckbjörn from IKEA?
>>76017011
This is a pathetic deflection against the real Jewish activities that get talked about.
>>76017366
>mountains of evidence surrounding the negative influence of jews in western society
>"hurrr u blame jew cuz ur ugly XDXD jews a masterrace XDXD pwned!!!!"
pathetic.
>>76016176
This. You spend a little while in the lolbertarian phase until you realize it's a white man's fantasy land and lacks the ability to sustain itself, it's subject, or its people.
>>76016976
There is moral problem. That's what I'm emphasizing. We have the same problem we always do: authoritarian scum trying to change the world to match their preconceived notions of life. It doesn't matter whether you lock people up because they are fags, or because they say they don't like fags. You are my enemy. Authority is the enemy of all righteous, free men. This conflict doesn't have a peaceful solution. It boils over, the authority carefully controlling and pushing and pushing their people until they snap. Then the bullets fly and the blood spills, and we start over. I am eagerly awaiting that day.
>>76017527
The fact still stands since the jews control everything, they are the master race. You are literally the equivalent of a nigger writing WE WUZ KANGS on Facebook.
>>76017611
No, anon it's a very serious movement of very serious people who care for all people and hate any form of coercion.
>>76017695
wow, guess i'm #cruzmissile now.
>>76017161
>Implying I support that
You don't get it, huh? I speak out against shit like this, but in your head, all fags love pride parades and public sex. Shut the fuck up, dumb mobile poster.
>>76017695
Jews are not master race. Europeans would wipe them out of existence if they wanted
But people fell for the "love your enemies", "finances are sinful, let the jews have them" and "we must support Israel so that the Apocalypse can finally happen and we can suffer the tribulation" meme of Christianity and allowed Jews to poison their minds
Pagan Romans almost erradicated all jews
A louse can kill a wolf with the poison it carries, it does not imply that the louse is superior to the wolf
>>76017695
Yeah, we're all doing the same thing. Can't wait till we all kill each other and see who comes out on top.
We've done it! We've killed racism!!!! :D
>>76018066
There are many Christians in the US who support Israel because they think they are fulfilling prophecy. It's insane.
>>76018066
>A louse can kill a wolf with the poison it carries, it does not imply that the louse is superior to the wolf
that's deeper than your canal, mang
>>76018112
> Estonia
based mongols
Praise Tengri!
>>76006712
>As far as I can remember, the alt-right started as a white nationalist movement with voices like Richard Spencer's and AmRen adding to it
Yeah I don't remember that. I don't remember the "alt right" existing. And it still doesn't.
>>76018058
So.... you do mind fags and fag enablers and think they should stay in the closet.
>>76011860
WASP is just a jewish slur against the dominant historical class of America. Fuck off kike. Do you know who were WASPs? All of the found fathers... they built this country from their own toil and genius while your yid ancestors migrated to America as a host nation off which to parasite. Here's a quote from Mussolini:
"Mussolini was concerned with the low birth rates of the white race in contrast to the African and Asian races. In 1928 he noted the high birth-rate of blacks in the United States, and that they had surpassed the population of whites in certain areas, such as Harlem in New York City. He described their greater racial consciousness in comparison with American whites as contributing to their growing strength"
Either you're a kike, or you're spouting off an anti-european canard from your kike prof about l'evil WASP.
Race is not a pseudoscience either.... Whites descend from a common group that left southern russia/upper caucus 10kya and are closer genetically than they are to any other group.
>>76018066
>the jews tricked us
>for roughly 2000 years by now
>but we are still superior because I say so
Is it really that hard for people like you to think and apply some scrutiny to the things you believe?
I mean you can't have both the masterrace thing and the jews control everything thing.That makes you look like a delusional tard.
>>76018259
>I didn't see it so it didn't happen
Anon, we are proto alt right. /pol/ is the alt right. the Alt Right is just /pol/ invading twitter and some other places.
>>76009679
uh-oh. you're right! its all a trick. I'm now a #BigDogForHillDog
>>76018241
Are you white? I see you all the time and you seem more intelligent than what I would imagine someone with your flag would be.
You single handedly carry some threads.
>>76018259
In the american form it still does not quite exist outside of the internet, but the European Identitarians have done some based things like spreading pig blood over minaret building sites
which is ironic given that Americans have more freedom than Europeans
>>76018504
>>but we are still superior because I say so
I would say that conquering almost the entire world is a proof of supremacy
Only inner China remained outside European control
But HIV-infection eventually develops into AIDS, even after 2000 years, so here we are
>>76018318
I know it is very hard to imagine there are more than two diametrically opposed, black/white solutions, so I'll calmly and concisely explain. There is nothing wrong with being homosexual. There is something very wrong with public displays of sex and nudity. Homosexuals have been hijacked by SJWs and turned into another little crusade, and I despise this. Despite that, I am still married to a man. Do you really believe that there aren't any homosexuals that are committed and loyal, normal people?
>>76010718
Well I dont think Milo even considers himself to be alt-right, and moreso just a very flamboyant cheerleader. Im pretty sure he himself is doing all of this just to BTFO SJWs and lefties
>>76018700
Europeans have a much more real nationalist movement than Americans. Trump is really the closest thing to a movement here. If he loses then I think it's just over.
>>76018559
I understand what people call the alt right. The thing is we aren't an organization with a set of beliefs. You could claim anyone who isn't being pc is alt right. It's just used as a strawman, it doesn't exist.
>/pol/ created a large online movement
>become paranoid it's all a Jewish creation
Chill out, lads. These are our most glorious times. Don't worry about fucking Milo, he means absolutely nothing. Enjoy our moment.
>>76018834
And the jews conquered the white master race, making them superior.
>>76018643
I am a White Latino (surely not by one-drop standards of the post-reconstruction South, but certainly whiter than that "white man" Zimmermann)
>>76019168
If we fight against each other with knives, and I refuse to use my knife, and you kill me, does it mean you were stronger than me?
>>76019287
I like the way you move. Keep it up.
>>76006712
>alt right
Alt right is an attempt to hijack the far right. Alt right is a leftist false flag, unite the right wingers under one banner so they can guide and "define" our ideology as they see fit. Milo is the perfect example, his purpose is to inject tolerance of race mixing and homosexuality into right wing ideology.
>>76019505
No it means that you were retarded.
I mean how much of an idiot would you have to be to not use a knife in a knifefight?
>>76010805
>That's why Milo is in charge.
He's just some drama queen that pisses lefties off.
>the alt-right is my specific splinter of right-wing anti-establishment thought!
>no is most definitely not your specific splinter of right-wing anti-establishment thought, and it never has been you fucking Jew subverting faggot
>>76019620
the same applies
The Jew is not stronger than the White Man
the White Man is just being morally stupid and refuses to defend itself out of misguided altruism
But the Jew is being equally stupid, the louse thinks that it can survive the death of the wolf!
The tolerant altruistic society that the White Man created will die with the White Man... is it really a surprise that so many jews are moving to Israel from Europe?
>>76019859
>the alt right
just stop, Abraham
it's not gonna work.
>>76019616
Im really sorry not every person who votes for trump hates niggers and fags, but it isn't a god damn Jewish conspiracy you paranoid shit.
>>76019616
> Alt right is a leftist false flag
Here we have people, that, as the army starts to break through and the enemy started to retreat, want to scream "IT IS A TRAP!! Let's retreat!! Surely Victory is impossible!" and create a rout in their own ranks
>>76020040
>white people conquered the world, thus they are superior
>jews conquered white people, but they are not superior since it would hurt my feelings
That's what it all comes down to. You can cry and try to deny it all you want, but that's the main point.
Since Alt-righters are losers, their only claim of superiority lies in their skin color since none of them can possibly claim to be worth more to society than a black neurosurgeon, a mexican laywer or a jewish musician.
>>76020447
alt-right has been from the start a leftist meme designed to lump the extreme of the extreme in with everyone who could possibly oppose the conservative "establishment"
>>76010718
I don't care about him being gay, Jack Donovan and Greg Johnson are alright for example. But I hate Milo. I hate him because he's a phony, a phony with a finger in the wind.
He's an attention whore who will go with whatever the undercurrent is. I saw a picture of him at UCSB with a bunch of beta males holding him up on a chair. It was disgusting.
As for the OP: Spencer can say whatever he wants, and believe me, I've followed the "alt-right" now for over five years. But to me it has simply come to be a safe space, if you will, for discussion relating to race, culture, and so on. Viewpoints that are valid so long as it's a topic, but rarely get coverage.
AmRen itself has always had a diverse range of speakers. Maybe you're there to speak on the dangers of Islamic immigration, maybe it's to alert people to the attacks on whites, perhaps it's exclusively to discuss the merit of IQ.
Alt right to me has just become an umbrella term for taboo viewpoints.
>>76020101
Listen mate, if you want to nitpick about the use of terminology on an anonymous Korean tapestry weaving forum and call me out as a Jew for it, go right ahead
But arguing about which brand of far-right is the purest and vilifying those who are able to redpill massive amounts of normies because they ain't pure enough for ya is going to end up with the lefties winning again
You will never get anywhere acting like a bunch of 'muh true conservative' Cruz Missiles
>>76020792
>> jews conquered white people
When did this happen?
Does not conquering implies war and occupation of some sort?
If I tell you that you can have my TV, it does not mean that you stole it!
>>76020907
that is an ahistorical claim
how new are you?
>>76006712
Brother there was no movement before it was "hijacked"
>>76020907
> "hurr durr!!! Richard Spencer and Guillaume Faye is a leftists!"
>>76021028
They seem to rule white people when previously they didn't. So if you think about it, something must have happened to change that. Not to mention conquering does not imply war or even occupation. You can conquer and rule something without that, which they obviously did according to you.
Also, they must have done it so well that you don't even realise you are ruled by them. Call me a jewish shill but that seems to be a better way than using armies. Yet another proof that the jews are obviously meant to be the master race.
