>Sausage-wielding ultra-nationalists attack vegan cafe in Tbilisi
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/05/31/sausage-wielding-ultra-nationalists-attack-vegan-cafe-in-tbilisi/
>Far right extremists attack staff and guests of a vegan cafe
>15 assailants stormed the cafe and began hurling sausages at customers
>attackers described as "radical ultra nationalists"
>the cafe described the attack as "anti-vegan action" and said the attackers were "neo-nazis who support fascist ideas"
>"we live in a hell where we are mocked for not eating meat the police laugh at us instead of protecting our residents"
>this attack could be the start of organised political action by georgian ultra nationalists
AHAHAHAHAHAHA
YOU CAN'T MAKE THIS SHIT UP
>Hitler was a vegetarian
>most Nazi elite were vegetarian
>>75648531
Your mom was vegetarian until she tasted my meat.
>>75648531
Kill yourself.
>>75648574
damn
>>75648723
is it not true, Ahmed ?
>>75648779
Really
>>75648469
>SAUSAGE NAZIS ATTACK
Sounds like a good gay porn follow up to Das Butt.
>>75648469
>Sausage-wielding ultra-nationalists
lad
>>75649298
it was big sausages attaking little vegan girls, faggot.
>Because most of the staff, and a lot of the guests, have piercings and mohawk hairstyles, the police thought they were the ones responsible for the incident.
This is gold!
Thank God there are still parts of the world where it's unacceptable to be a self absorbed cunt.
>>75648469
Ye big olde massive nazi sausage in tight vegan pussy. Pics when???
>>75648469
BAN ASSAULT-SAUSAGES
>>75648469
That's some Australian level banter
>>75648469
kek, georgia is the most conservative non-muslim country in the world, but at the same time among a sub section of youth is heavily westernised, lots of funny shit happens there because of this.
>/pol/ claims to be "red pilled"
>constantly fighting against vegans
>not realising that vegans have already taken their so-called red pill
>not realising vegans are /pol/ allies
>>75650763
>numales and fags are your allies, goy
>>75648469
How do they know they were "nazis"?
This sort of "attack" is usuallu something the fedora crowd does.
>>75651248
In yurope anyone who disagrees with your lefty ideas is a nazi
>>75648531
>Hitler was an insecure manlet
>most nazis are insecure manlets
>>75651432
5'9 used to be lanklet
>>75651385
>american trying to know about the world
usa is the home of extreme progressive faggotry and pc culture, georgia is somewhere where fags get murdered by battle priests.
>>75648469
>ultranationalists
>>75651536
Yeah but if you are against open borders in Europe you are far right extremist
>>75648469
>the police laugh at us instead of protecting our residents
God bless Georgia.
>>75648469
Why do normie Americans tend to have no knowledge of country Georgia's existence.
Sieg Heil mein Führerwurst
>>75650763
vegans are all hippies and commies
I'M A VEGAN
I'M A VEGAN
I'M A VEGAN
I'M A VEGAN
>>75648469
>>the cafe described the attack as "anti-vegan action" and said the attackers were "neo-nazis who support fascist ideas"
topjeje
>>75648531
then how does it feel that hitler treated animals better than you?
he failed vegetarianism, it takes 1 fucking google search... leave my country
>>75651003
>>75653435
>against animal holocaust
>against environmental destruction
> for better ethics and health
HURR DURR VEGANS ARE PUSSYS AND COMMIES JUST LET SOCIETY DO YOUR THINKING AYY LMAO
>>75648469
Georgia's doing better than I thought if vegan cafes are a sustainable business.
>>75648469
What do the Nazis hope to achieve by throwing sausages at hippies?
>>75649999
CHECKED
>>75648469
>radical ultra nationalists, neo-nazis who support fascist ideas throwing sausages at people
THE HORROR
I'M LITERALLY SHAKING
>>75649999
those digits
>>75657418
Vegans are not hippies.
Hippies dont give a fuck about killing animals.
>>75650763
this
take the fish oil pill!!
cause you probably should since you don't eat meat
>>75657418
Brexit.
>>75648531
Adolf wasn't vegetarian, he was advised to become vegetarian because of health issues, but he ate meat anyway. Stop trying to lump Hitler in with liberal-shills, if you have an actual argument against the man please use it, but don't strawman this shit you liberal cunt
These faggots are pathetic. They go throw sausages at some fucking weak vegans who can't defend themselves and are harmless bitches instead of attacking the Muslims invading their countries. They're spineless edgy faggots.
>>75648469
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHHAAHHAHAHAHAAHAH
Gotta love how cucked everyone in europe is.
>MUH MEAT NAZIS
>>75649085
makes
>>75657193
>HURR DURR VEGANS ARE PUSSYS AND COMMIES
It's Pretty much true though
>>75650763
True red-pillers are vegetarian. This is demonstrated by a U.K. government study with a sample size of every student studying in Britain that showed that vegetarians have higher average IQs(15 above meat-eaters, 5 above vegans). The modern dairy industry doesn't embody vegetarian ideals, but there is nothing wrong with buying free range or milking your own cows.
>>75648531
> Tbilisi
if a vegan touches meat before dying he won't go to heaven to be received by 21 refugees
>>75657193
>animal
>holocaust
only an autist would think that animals are not for consumption.
>MUH ANIMAL FRIENDS
animals never gave a shit about you and never will.
>>75657193
TRIGGERED
>Helicopter idling in the background
>>75658022
Except it isnt, its a movement which is against unjustly killing sentient beings.
>>75658101
>nothing wring with buying free range
yeah if you have no problem with baby cows getting killed, dairy cows getting raped and commodifying a sentient being
I have been to Tbilisi and I cannot understand why my dad is proud of being born in such a shithole.
>>75657193
>Better ethics and health
First is sibjective, second is wrong
>Against environmental destruction
Yes. Industrial farming will end if we all eat quinoa and beets.
>Against animal holocaust
If you take "holocaust" as meaning "the senseless and industrial ending of life on a grand scale in order to satiate an irrationally held prejudice" then you are PRO animal holocaust - because if eating meat was banned tomorrow literally billions of farm animals would be butchered and burned.
>>75658288
explain how killing billions of sentient beings a year is not a holocaust or at least a genoicide.
>humans are animals
Some animals have gave a shit about me... i dont see how this justifies stabbing animals.
“Because most of the staff, and a lot of the guests, have piercings and mohawk hairstyles, the police thought they were the ones responsible for the incident."
>>75648469
>"we live in a hell where we are mocked for not eating meat the police laugh at us instead of protecting our residents"
I love the police^^
>>75650763
most vegans are not nutrition-obsessed bodybuilder types who do it for the properties of the food
>>75658359
Do you think western countries are better?
>>75658288
>animals never gave a shit about you and never will.
That's just not true. My dog barks at my brother when he pretends to punch me. When I pretend to cry my dog provides emotional support(jumping on me and licking my face). Both pigs and dogs have been proven to be capable of feeling empathy. You can't deny that.
that society is so uncucked they can only attack innocent vegans because there isn't anyone really worth attacking(such as niggers, SJWs, refugees, etc)
>>75658294
> didnt justify stabbing animals
>>75658434
so killing sentient beings without justification is right in your opinion?
Nope its right, eating a balanced vegan diet is better for you. Most importantly you avoid dietary cholesterol.
No, but the #1 industry responsible for climate change will end, animal agriculture.
No they wouldnt and this is a hypothetical unrealistic scenario.
Nothing you wrote justifies stabbing animals.
>>75650763
Every fucking vegan I've encountered was either an ultra lefty faggot or a "DUDE WEED" type who had no strong opinions other than DUDE WEED. Fuck off.
>>75658353
>Except it isnt, its a movement which is against unjustly killing sentient beings.
Yea but the majority of people who even accept that as a realistic position are extremely leftist. I.e. Commies and hippies.
Right wingers are generally more ok with the concept that killing is a part of life.
>>75658662
good for you, that still does not justify stabbing billions of animals a year
>waaah i met someone who i didnt like so that refutes veganism
>>75648574
Top bantz
>>75658101
this study is flawed because people who just "go with the flow" and eat whatever are going to be lower IQ, and people who specifically choose their diet based on their health needs will be higher IQ, but if they are meat eaters, these people who specifically choose their food to their health needs will be lumped in with the whole population
>>75658701
So because im not ok with the animal holocaust and choose not to support it then im an extreme leftist?
>killing is apart of life
Is that meant to be your justification for stabbing animals for trivial reasons?
Vegan never really made sense to me i mean lets pretend that every human agrees you still have the animals eating each other and you cant turn them vegan lol So at that point they have more "rights" than humans in terms of food lol wtf But if we do it its suddenly evil or unnatural? Nope not getting it.
>>75648469
The night of broken wieners
IT BEGINS
>>75658626
Just kill yourself already, commie. You fuckers completely ruined my country. I hope all of you die.
>>75658662
Anecdotal evidence doesn't refute studies commissioned by whole governments with massive sample sizes that consistently prove vegetarians have average IQs of at least 15 points above meat-eaters. Try harder.
>>75650180
nice pic
>sausaging Lefties in stead of Muslims
>>75651432
>Germans are known for being tall and masculine which is why you guys ruined Germany out of jealousy
>Jews are just short pussies who let everyone throughout history cuck and kill them hoping their faggot God steps in and saved them
>>75658925
It's a false flag
>>75658555
this is true
that argument is flawed anyway
because if the intelligence argument is used to justify eating animals, then can we say..
eat retards?
>>75658662
>>75658701
The reason I eat meat is to be on top of the food chain, and because I feel it is a luxury only afforded to us in these nations
it may not always be there, may as well stack up on the nutrient density while I can
I reduced my meat intake to what is necessary to make gainz though, which actually isn't alot. americans do eat too much meat
I wish I could just eat bears n wolves every now and then, and then fish usually. That would be my ideal meat diet, so I could be apex predator, but also healthy with the fish
>>75658701
>killing is a part of life.
That would be a valid argument if killing sentient animals was necessary for you to survive, which it isn't, so your argument is invalid.
>>75658902
Can you post those studies or point me in the right direction because "massive sample size" is unimaginable like literally unimaginable and not a number, stats pls
>>75649999
oh fuck
>>75658788
The vast vast vast majority of vegetarians don't eat meat for moral reasons, not for health reasons. If what you're saying is true, people who eat a paleo diet should have a higher average IQ than meat-eaters, which they don't
>>75659208
they don't?
show me those stats
also, you have to factor in that paleo diet is a fad diet and vegetarian has been around for a long time
I don't think morality is necessarily linked with intelligence.. if that were the case why do autists typically have high IQ
>>75659111
Top fuckin kek
>>75658873
>still not justifying stabbing animals
>>75658827
So your argument against veganism is that wild animals, with little moral agency, who are obligate carnivores, who live in the wild, who kill to survive wont go vegan....
>>75658353
>unjustly killing sentient beings.
you think cows are sentient?
>>75658902
Nobody gives a shit.
Most obscure sects have higher than average IQ's. And yes, a group that disciplines themselves to do anything will be smarter on average than people that don't.
IQ isn't everything, it doesn't make you right. Vegans like most leftists are overwhelmed by emotions which cloud their logic regardless of how high their IQ is.
>>75658294
Europe killed him for being anti socialist and improving his country
>>75659119
Here, I know it's pschologytoday and not a legit source, but it links to many legit sources such as studies conducted by both the British and American government. https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-scientific-fundamentalist/201005/why-vegetarians-are-more-intelligent-meat-eaters
>>75648469
Wtf did I just read
>>75658005
you
>>75658820
>sentient beings
You're fucking retarded.
>>75658662
Vegan here. You can still hate the Jews and not want animals to be killed.
>>75658709
It does.
>>75658902
Ah yes, vegans are more intelligent and I'm stupid because a government said so. Solid argument. It's been proven that your body requires certain fats and proteins that nuts and beans don't provide. You're living in denial. Give me your address so I can send you some Iron pill to your dumb anemic ass.
>>75659562
I said vegetarians, not vegans. Besides, veganism/vegetarianism has nothing to do with liberalism at all.
>a group that disciplines themselves to do anything will be smarter on average than people that don't.
Which is why paleos and vegans have higher average IQs than vegetarians, oh wait....
Lol @ everyone in picture is a scrony malnourished cunt
>>75659743
Animals are undeniably sentient. You don't understand what the word means. Go find a dog and beat it with a hammer and see if it reacts.
>>75657193
>Caring about living creatures
>Not casting away your weak flesh for glorious metal
HOW CAN ORGANICS EVEN COMPETE?
I occasionally consume meat that I hunt myself. I primarily consume vegetables, though, and I am almost as 'right-wing' as one can be on issues of national culture and integrity. Opposition to industrial slaughter's unsustainability (rather than merely opposing the consumption of meat, though I do have a soft spot for animals) does not necessitate that one is a far-left wacko.
In fact, I rather thought that opposition to the profit-above-all efficiency efficiency efficiency model jived well with more conservative politics.
>>75659987
I'd rather go beat a vegan and see how it reacts, I don't think they're sentient.
>>75659546
Achmed, everybody knows animals are sentient.
Please get out my country.
yes, waste time attacking vegans instead of mudslimes and other minorities ruining your country.
you're fucking stupid.
>>75659850
>brags about intelligence, doesn't understand the difference between veganism or vegetarianism, or that iron isn't a problem for either of those groups.
You got me! The same government that banned filming the conditions in slaughterhouses is lying to you to promote vegetarianism!
>>75660126
>appeal to ridicule
You gonna actually bring anything of value to this thread?
ITS HAPPENING
>>75659107
>sentient
>>75660126
That's some edge right there, sorry your parents didn't give you enough attention when you were young. It's a good method of escaping the fact that you tried to tell me that animals weren't sentient when you didn't even know the definition of the word though.
>>75660137
>everybody knows animals are sentient
you grade F moran
>>75649432
Can I find this video at MEATED.com
>>75648469
>he police laugh at us instead of protecting our residents
>>75660321
Just Google the definition of the word, stop being dumb.
>>75658820
>Is that meant to be your justification for stabbing animals for trivial reasons?
No. The point is that no justification is needed.
>>75659107
>That would be a valid argument if killing sentient animals was necessary for you to survive, which it isn't, so your argument is invalid.
I didn't make an argument.
My argument would be something more like:
There's no compelling reason to grant animals (in general) rights. Hence, I don't.
>>75650763
Unless their "red pill" is a protein and calcium supplement; I think you're confused.
>>75658820
>So because im not ok with the animal holocaust and choose not to support it then im an extreme leftist?
No. It's a tendency
>>75660352
The oxford uni declaration of animal sentience with over 3,000 scientific studies backing it up is and signed by steve hawking is wrong because some child on the internet says so...
>>75660404
Oh wow the word is now nearly meaningless in this context. Why does it matter again?
People do this because no one smashes their teeth in
I would of done so and left before the cuck statist police force would show up to just fart around
>>75660406
so you think no justification is needed when causing suffering and death to sentient beings?
why do you think this?
>There's no compelling reason to grant animals (in general) rights. Hence, I don't.
What trait absent in animals, that if absent in humans would justify causing them suffering and killing them? #name the trait
>>75660195
Why are you arguing for vegetarianism when the main topic of the op is veganism? Sounds like a lot of malnourished butthurt.
>>75658626
Why is killing plants preferable to killing animals? Plants want to survive. Plants respond to stimuli. Just because they don't have a face doesn't mean they aren't alive.
I don't need to justify anything - there is a natural order to life. Every animal on the planet has to kill other organisms in order to live. You are drawing arbitrary lines and propogating myths in order to support your assumed moral highground. Justify that.
I wish grandma could have been here to see this. But she doesn't internet. Love you grandma.
>>75660406
>killing is a part of life.
Here's where you made that argument, you don't need to kill to live, it's a choice.
>here's no compelling reason to grant animals (in general) rights.
Yes there is, they are sentient, capable of feeling empathy and are intelligent. Pigs are more intelligent that our dogs. Think about your dog, I know I'd give my left arm to protect mine, I can't understand how somebody would go out of their way to pay to have her killed solely for their pleasure. We have a collective moral responsibility not to kill animals in situations where it is not necessary to do so. Casuing unnecessary death and suffering is undeniably more immoral than not causing unnecessary death and suffering. I'd advise all of you to seriously consider vegetarianism.
>>75648469
what clowns
they don't deserve the nationalist label, they are lowlife conservatards if anything
>>75660577
The capability to feel pain and react to things is a key factor in determining whether an organism is intelligent, you should understand that.
>>75660576
>signed by steve hawking
why don't you do something useful with your time instead of crying about animals
>>75648469
>Vegans
>>75660956
are you serious right now
>>75660673
>What trait absent in animals, that if absent in humans would justify causing them suffering and killing them? #name the trait
The fact that I'm human, living in a human society means that it's in all of our interests to agree on human rights. In the interests of our families and children, we want to create a society that allows humans to live happily.
It's not in all of our interests to advocate for animal rights.
Human society is for humans. There's no reason to design human society for ants or cows or pigs.
>>75648469
Bratwurstnacht. It begins.
>>75660406
but you piece of shit do enjoy having the rights someone gave you unfortunately, don't you?
>>75660697
Plants are not intelligent. Your argument is absurd. Plants have neither a means not an evolutionary reason to feel pain or to be intelligent. Plants do not have a central nervous system or a brain. Why would it be evolutionarily advantageous for an organism incapable of moving to feel pain? Think about it. Intelligence has no utility if you can't act upon the understanding that it gives you.
I really want to visit Georgia and Armenia someday. Do they generally know and accept to speak English or I need a guide because they can't speak English?
If vegetarians and vegans would lean on the sustainability argument more (the better ones do), rather than the idea of granting non-human animals rights, I think they would find better success in convincing others. We are omnivores. While I do not consume much meat myself, killing something in the wild or using animals in agriculture are basically uncontroversial practices to me.
Industrial-scale animal agriculture wastes a ton of water, for example. That is a fact. That plant-based industrial agriculture has problems does not diminish that animal-based industries are worse.
>>75660697
Plants are not sentient....even if they were why does this justify stabbing animals
You are not doing it in order to live, you are doing it for fun...killing animals requires justification, fun is not justification.
Im not drawing arbitrary lines (why do thick people always use this word wrong)
>>75660958
it's one of the VERY few things that's worthwhile, if you help "humans" what if it helps scum like you - you would have wasted your effort
>>75660870
see >>75661201
There's nothing immoral about killing a cow to eat it. It's irrelevant whether or not they're intelligent or feel pain.
These aspects make it more emotionally painful to kill them, but it's not inconsistent with an ideal society.
>think about your dog
Yea, I would easily kill anybody who killed my dog. It's still not a reason for dogs to have civil rights.
>>75661010
I sometimes wonder if they actually care about animals at all, or just want the kick of dopamine they get when they make everyone else do what they are told, or maybe it's the kick of dopamine they get from virtue signalling what a fucking saint they are
>>75661274
>but you piece of shit do enjoy having the rights someone gave you unfortunately, don't you?
Of course. And they were correct to do so.
>>75648469
I think vegans are idiots, but that's just a dick move, they're not hurting anyone besides themselves, why attack them?
>>75661469
Fish don't feel pain. Why shouldn't I kill them?
>>75661201
you did not answer my question
I also never once suggested or implied that we should introduce cows to the office.
>>75661275
you think cows are intelligent?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
for fucks sake you reatrds are fucking dumb
>>75661656
Because they are sentient....and they do feel pain, just not exactly like us
>>75658353
> unjustly
They would eat humans if they could. We are just returning the favor. :^)
>>75661491
what the FUCK are you talking about? you massive reatrded saur kraut cuck
>>75661679
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQjhJYSTuBc
>>75661663
The trait a human would have to be missing in order to lack human rights is the trait of being human.
>the amount of shitposting in this thread
Are vegans the true Australians?
>>75661630
no, anyone should have the right or rather the duty to kill subhumans like you
>>75661632
they are mentally(and physically) ill, they also attempt to infect others with this self-serving reatarded bullshit too
>>75661558
>I would easily kill anybody who killed my dog but I would still cause animals smarter than my dog to suffer and die solely for my tastebuds
No cognitive dissonance there.
>There's nothing immoral about killing a cow to eat it. It's irrelevant whether or not they're intelligent or feel pain.
That's very relevant. Most philosophers define morals as consciously deciding to reduce the suffering and death your actions cause. Therefore causing animals to suffer and die for your pleasure is objectively immoral
>>75660478
Holy kek, underrated
>>75661782
so if your conciousness was transferred into a computer or a robot, then it would be ok to cause you suffering or to kill you?
>>75661761
as if I'm going to watch that
>>75661809
For you, anon.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbwjQSBH0sE
>>75661903
Im not a liberal but i should of expected a muslim to not watch evidence that refute his or her retarded claim
>>75661761
POO IN THE LOO
>>75661898
>so if your conciousness was transferred into a computer or a robot, then it would be ok to cause you suffering or to kill you?
If my consiousness were transferred to every computer, would it be illegal to turn them off?
>>75661861
You're not going to convince idiots to change by attacking them unfortunately. Besides if anyone should be attacked I think there are certain types of people who should be higher up on the food chain.
I do feel kind of sorry for them, I had B12 deficiency because I have a weird diet and it fucking sucked. But they obviously stuff themselves full of tablets and pretend it's natural to not eat meat.
>>75661756
nice try, acting white. even if you are, animal torturing makes you subhuman.
>>75661275
>>75661469
>Plants are not sentient
You didn't say anything about sentient, you said "living". Plants are alive, and they actually DO feel pain. Many studies have shown this, google it.
Your lines ARE arbitrary. You have decided what life has value, and what life does not. You have decided what behaviour is ethical, and what is not. Those decisions are based on values you have assigned inside your own head.
You kill plants to live. Others kill animals to live. That is a personal choice - to add a moral argument to it is disgustingly egocentric.
>>75648469
Neo-Nazis = fried chicken
Neo-Communists = boiled asparagus
>>75661994
I'm going to go to the supermarket and buy a steak tonight, just to upset you
I usually have chicken, but tonight it's gonna be steak
hmm, wait a minute, maybe they have veal
how are you gonna stop me? given you can't pray on my emotions, or attempt to shame me into not doing it
how many cow winners of the nobel prize are there?
>>75661976
won't watch your videos
>>75662066
Thats what im asking you - would it be justified? so clearly it is not just "because im a human" that is justification enough to kill sentient beings.
>>75661679
>you reatrds are fucking dumb
Your government proved we have an average IQ of 15 points higher than you. You also don't understand the difference between vegetarians and vegans. And all of the shit on your list has vegan alternatives anyway, not that I am vegan. Intelligence is defined as the ability to acquire and apply knowledge and skills, which cows undeniably have. They have demonstrated on multiple occasions that they are capable of long-term memory, problem solving and learning from past experiences. It's not a question on whether cows are intelligent, that's been proven a long time ago by men far smarter than us both, it's a question of whether their intelligent enough to justify not causing them to suffer and die solely for your tastebuds.
>>75661861
>ignoring the fact that vegetarians and vegans actually have much lower rates of b12 deficiency now that the supplements are easily available
Hahaahahaha
>>75648574
>had gnarly british teeth around your dick
U wot m8?
>>75662130
to feel anything you have to be sentient....you dont even know what the word sentient means so why are you arguing?
Ive decided sentient life has value...
Me killing plants is not unethical.... you killing animals without justification is unethical.
>>75662208
ive not once prayed on anybody's emotions, you are getting emotional because you cannot refute me....none of what you are writing is justifying stabbing animals.
>>75661127
proves they crave meat, i'm pretty sure cock meat in perticular
>>75661469
>killing animals requires justification, fun is not justification.
because I'm a human the best Apex predator on earth and because I can
>>75661591
yea realistically she probably ran out of oxygen from telling everyone she was vegan, smug pricks
>>75662214
>Thats what im asking you - would it be justified? so clearly it is not just "because im a human" that is justification enough to kill sentient beings.
Of course you can turn them off. There may come a time when some significant part of society is artificially intelligent, and where we might have an interest in granting them rights.
But as of now, of course you should be able to turn off the computer.
>>75662271
Do you support abortion at 20+ weeks?
>>75662210
Don't lie to me baby
>>75662381
> because i can its justified
so because you CAN rape my nan... is that justified?
>>75651248
the first time I read this story I noticed that too, it was in a different publication as well but they just off-handedly assured the group was a neo nazi right wing deli squad based on nothing
>>75662208
>how many cow winners of the nobel prize are there?
Shit he's right boys, we've never awarded the nobel prize to a cow, fuck years of scientific research, fuck philosophy and fuck common sense in general. We've never awarded the nobel prize to a cow so they're clearly not intelligent enough to not cause them to suffer and die solely for our pleasure, despite the fact that they have been proven to be capable of feeling empathy and are sentient.
>>75662467
No, abortion is unethical and unnecessary, just wait a couple months and give the baby up for adoption.
>>75648469
I love eating meat and fish. I support the vegans, because the more popular the trend is, the lower meat prices are (as long as they dont become the rulling majority and prevent me from eating what I like ofc...will never happen though).
Attacking vegans is foolish, even for a person with a carnivor diet.
Those were not far right supporters. They are hooligans who show swastikas in order to justify their lust for vandalism and conflict.
>>75662654
>as long as they dont become the rulling majority
15% of the world are vegetarian, and that number is increasing exponentially, what you've described will eventually happen
>>75662368
Plants feel pain, again, many studies have shown this. Plants are pulled out of the ground by their roots or chopped to pieces as they stand there. Some of them are eaten alive, or boiled alive.
Cows are put out with one shot to the brain.
Defend your plant holocaust, you sadist.
>>75648469
>Witnesses described how the staff calmly asked the group to leave the premises
REMOVE SAUSAGE FROM PREMISES
>>75662271
>Your government proved
>>75662535
its not rape if she's willing m8
>>75662353
they have a lower rate now than before there was (an animal produced) B12 supplement? or lower than the normal meat eating population?
>>75662574
>feeling empathy and are sentient
But nobody cares about that but the mental masturbators you call philosophers.
Laws against murdering humans benefit me, because it makes it illegal to murder me. Laws against slaughtering animals hurt me, because I can't eat them anymore.
That's why it is morally unjust to have laws against slaughtering animals.
>>75662740
No studies have shown this. Many have shows plants are intelligent.
>>75662130
To feel pain you have to be sentient, you obviously don't know the definition of the word. Intelligence has no utility unless you can act upon the understanding that it gives you, you don't seem to understand that.
>>75662860
Lower than normal meat-eating population.
>>75662368
>ive not once prayed on anybody's emotions
sure you have, that's your only argument
waaaaa, it's baaaaad
scratch a liberal and you find an authoritarian, wanking off to the idea of making other people do what they want
yes, veal tonight I think, and maybe I'll stab a duck or two on the way home
>>75662859
you sick fuck lol
>>75662739
When lab grown meat becomes a reality a lot, if not most of the vegans that don't eat meat for avoiding pain for the animalswill do so. Only the ones who think humans are naturally vegetarian will be immune to this technology , but I think they are the minority.
>>75662984
ive asked people to justify killing animals.
Im not a fucking liberal for the last time.
>>75662869
You don't understand what the word "moral" means. For example in your example it would be moral to eat and kill black people, assuming that you are white. People aren't edgy emotionless cunts that only act in their own best interests.
>>75663041
Can't wait for the day that we get lab-grown meat, should come soon enough considering that pretty much every billionaire on earth has invested massive amounts of money into its development.
>>75663085
But that is wrong. There is reason to believe that black people would band together and start killing us in return.
Luckily nonhumans are so far below us in their abilities that this is not a concern.
>>75663077
But I know a vegetarian and he is liberal. Checkm8 cunt, just leave
>>75663240
Yeah, people won't have a problem with it unless the leftists that wants to scare people away from using GMO's also fear this.
Vegans should just kill themselves
>>75663272
>But that is wrong. There is reason to believe that black people would band together and start killing us in return.
Let's clarify this real quick, are you saying that if there was a way to ensure that black people could not rebel against us, you would say it would be moral to kill and eat them? Edginess aside, that is objectively immoral.
>>75657193
>animal holocaust
moooo-rememberthesixgorrilion-ooooo
>>75651432
haha cry more jew boy
>>75663510
You're setting up a stupid analogy with that cannibalism garbage. Eating another human being is a great way to give yourself the human equivalent of mad cow disease.
Not this shit again.
Typical "ughhh we are being oppressed for being fags!1111 nazis are killing us!!!1111"
I've been in that cafe. it stinks of hipsters and tears of failure
>>75663077
> ive asked people to justify killing animals.
Here is your answer:
http://www.planetdeadly.com/animals/deadliest-man-eating
>>75659562
This burger is right. Having a high IQ is one (fairly important) aspect, but without having the right moral and spiritual compass it's good for nothing.
1. Right Moral/Spiritual code 2. High Intelligence 3. Self Restraint and Control over you emotional self. These are three pillars of a decent man.
God, I read that article. I was literally painful to read it. I knew liberal leftists are cucks, but reading about this degeneracy is so much detail is a whole new level. The cucks in these scenarios are not men, not on any level. The women just give in to their evolutionary instincts and seek out the strongest mate, in this case with their "husbands" and more importantly society's approval.
>>75663762
I dont see how that justifies stabbing cows, chickens eect
>>75663762
>http://www.planetdeadly.com/animals/deadliest-man-eating
Vegans want humans to not be on the top 10 on earth's food change because their self-destruction fetish.
>>75662574
out of interest, what are you doing to end the practices of sacrificing animals to satan via kosher and halal?
I would assume that those would be your priority, are they?
>>75663510
It would, at the very least, not be morally wrong per se. It might still be morally wrong if it were made illegal, because disobediance towards your lawful sovereign is always immoral.
But such thought experiments are worthless: The only way to ensure that is to lobotomize them or otherwise reduce them to something that is no more than an animal that happens to have human shape. Humans are humans, animals are animals.
>>75658353
Are you that faggot who tried to tell us we needed to stop being racist because the alt-right is somehow not racist?
>>75663954
look mother fucker if I need to kill an animal to eat it and then go onto stop bad guys from killing weak fucks like yourself
I will consume said dead animal.
same with if there are no animals nearby and Starving I will Kill a bunch of plants and eat them.
>atleast I kill the plants before I eat them you sick fucks.
>>75664081
what? No lol that was not me senpai
>>75663954
> I dont see how that justifies stabbing cows, chickens ect
You didn't get it? Let me help you then: If animals eat humans, then humans as animals are justified in eating other animals.
If whites didn't eat meat we would still be retarded halfman apes like the blacks. Evolutionary theory supports this fact.
>>75664117
you do not need to...if you was in a genuine need to kill an animal to not die,. then that is JUSTIFICATION.
However you are not and you have no other justification for taking another animals life.
>>75664251
It is delicious and it is not a human being.
Sounds justified to me.
>>75648469
>Sausage-wielding ultra-nationalists attack vegan cafe in Tbilisi
top fucking kek
>>75664251
You guys should focus your attention towards the fatties not people that eat a balanced diet to survive.
>"you should stop eating because you gave justification for your eating meat" Fuck you too.
>>75664178
Erm no, because humans have higher moral agency.... animals rape other animals, are we now justified to rape?
You have just appealed to nature and not actual explained why taking the life of another is justified just because animals who are obligate carnivores, have little moral agency and do so out of need somehow justifies you stabbing animals.
>>75662740
plants murder eachother too, by starving the other plants of light
Are pork sausages the new weapon of the Right
>throw at nu-male vegan betas
>throw at Muslims
>>75648574
aaaaaaah
>>75664345
So your justification to kill another sentient life without a need is "its not human"
>>75664379
You have no reason to eat animal corpses, especially for survival, so your survival fantasy is obviously not justification for animal cruelty.
>>75662965
according to (((GOVERNMENT))) studies?
kek
you fags will believe anything, gargling cum is probably the only thing keeping you alive
When will vegans refute this image?
Why do vegans think they are above the highest form of law?
Why do they think their morals are greater than natures will?
When will they understand that being a vegan is a luxury afforded to them from living in this "evil" society?
When will vegans accept that the only reason they can have the thought process of "eating meat is wrong" due to the fact that eating cooked meat allowed our brains to develop as they did?
>>75648469
What a time to be alive
>>75663077
what makes you think I have to justify myself to you?!
is it not enough that they are fucking tasty? that we evolved to eat meat?
that all vegans/vagoos are faggots?
that if they cared so much about the harm they did to the planet/animals/plants/minerals, they'd off themselves as many of them do(the sincere ones)
you just want to enforce your beliefs on others and have others praise you for being, liek, sooo moral and ethical, maaaan
what are you gonna do about alligators, lions, polar bears and other meat eaters in your cum filled lefty utopia?
>>75664396
> Erm no, because humans have higher moral agency
Oh, so you admit humans are superior? Well then I stand to eat animals because of my higher moral superiority. :^)
> animals rape other animals, are we now justified to rape?
You know that an animal of a specie raping another specie is not common right? How many dogs do you see daily raping cats?
> You have just appealed to nature and not actual explained why taking the life of another is justified just because animals who are obligate carnivores, have little moral agency and do so out of need somehow justifies you stabbing animals.
It's justified because it's how nature runs it, which is something based on reality different from your 'feelings'. :^)
>>75662877
Actually, studies have shown both. But, for the sake, of argument let's say you are right: Plants are intelligent.
Defend eating other intelligent lifeforms.
>>75663487
pretty much
>>75664584
>appeal to nature fallacy
None of this justifies stabbing animals for food when you can eat anything else.
>>75664523
>without a need
No, that would be silly. The need is nourishment and pleasure, two of the most basi human needs
>>75660576
>Steven Hawking
He has zero relevance to the topic. If you're going to appeal to authority atleast try the right one.
>>75664006
Why the fuck would they be? They're as bad as meat-eating
>>75664909
How do you know what I can eat?
Your assuming a very specific scenario.
Forget all the modern bullshit civilisation shit, its not certain or implied that access to nutritious non-meat food is available at any time.
Nature doesn't justify gays either then you bleeding heart piece of shit.
>>75664396
no one is stabbing or slicing animals necks in ritual slaughter except the jews and muslims.
>go tell them to stop eating meat.
Can you imagine if we stopped eating meat wouldn't even have the wrist strength to fire a weapon without breaking your wrist and the enemy have just eaten a fuck tonne of camels looking for a fight.
http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/food/eat/my-vegan-diet-almost-killed-me/news-story/bbd7b4d508303f40886bfde44940e92f
>pic related.
>>75661331
Youth speaks english. But its horrible. Better get a guide or even better find a friend here and make him buy wine for you.
>>75664365
I kek'd too. In Georgia everything is reverse and retarded. for example, later those Sausage Nazis claimed that they did nothing and those Vagans attacked them. they also complained about discrimination.
> Nazis complaining about discrimination
pure retardation
>>75664835
yes i never said humans have as much as or less capacity to suffer than animals.
If you had higher morals then you would not kill without justification, so you kinda defeat your point.
I never argue with feelings, but well done on countering my accusation of appeal to nature, with an appeal to nature.
Retard.
>>75664863
because they are not sentient. no fucking studies demonstrate plant sentience you dense cunt.
>>75664525
Yup, cause the very government that outlawed filming on slaughterfarms is trying to promote vegetarianism. Take the redpill /pol/
>>75648574
Nice bantz.
>>75664523
>"survival fantasy.
>>75664909
>eat anything else
Like chickens fish deer hogs ducks etc.
I eat what I kill. Gut clean and cook it myself. No different then humans have done for the past 200000 years.
Unrelated note what are you doing in bongland greenman?
>>75664976
i said it was signed by one of the most impressive scientists onf our times
backed by 3,000 other studies
but yea thats an appeal to authority...
>>75665179
You live in a civilised country - stop trying to pretend you are in the wild (thought your mind probably thinks that because you have a tiny pea sized muslim brain)
>>75665197
that article does not refute veganism...plenty of vegan athletes. You can get all essential needs from plants, i was a vegetarian in the army ffs.
>>75665229
Why does one American state get its own flag here?
>>75665349
see this guy
>>75664523
>>75664396
wow, what a massive cuck
ALL of your ancestors ate meat, now you dishonor them by becoming a faglord
>>75665348
you live in the west, dont pretend you are out there on the moors fighting for survival, you are a beta cuck sitting on your computer.
>>75665349
That does not justify killing animals - yes its better than factory farmed, but you are still killing without justification
Man has kept slaves since the sawn of civilisation does that justify keeping slaves?
>>75665439
Civilisation can disappear in an instant.
Also you still haven't refuted the fact that eating meat is what allowed our brains the develop so that you could sit there and decide you were above the highest form of law.
Meat = civilisation
>>75664523
>>75665461
Certain nutrients are only available in animal products. Your body stores them up so it takes a while for the reserves to be depleted but unless your taken supplements you're fucked once there gone.
>>75665571
im not planting a fucking garden and I will never be like you I would have never left the military you are a disgrace.
>>75665520
> base your morals of ancient men or you are a cuck
>blindly following tradition and not thinking for yourself
> calling free thinkers cucks
>>75664584
good quote
they'd best be careful, one day we'll shut their faggot lying mouths
>>75665571
Why do you think anybody needs justification?
Why do you think your morals are the right ones?
When does the sanctity of life end for you?
Garden weeds?
Mould?
Cancer cells?
Bacteria?
Nothing in this world can replace beef with lean fat.
>>75665705
>pretending to be a different gender than the one you where born.
>accepting the soft kill and not taking care of your body to the point you had to be discharged from the military.
>>75665705
>then claiming to have took the "redpill"
hahahahaha
>>75665591
yeah it could, and if we was in famine we would be justified killing animals to survive...how is that relevant to today?
Cooked food helped us evolve, i dont see how that justfies stabbing animals in 2016?
>>75665635
B vits are found in bacteria, you can eat shit, soil, rooted dirty veg, untreated water...or eat marmite, mock meats soy milk because its 2016
ALL OTHERS YOU CAN GET FROM PLANTS
All without cholesterol.
>>75665117
wait, meat eating is bad?
but I have this veal cutlet, should I just throw it away? after all the suffereing da poo andimal dun suffred?
>>75665821
>pretending to be a different gender than the one you where born.
What the fuck has this got to do with vegetarianism? Why can't meat-eaters argue against vegetarianism and not just blatantly use strawmen?
>>75665240
> yes i never said humans have as much as or less capacity to suffer than animals.
You did say that humans do have moral superiority. Which, if humans are better than animals, do give us the right to utilize them. Survival of the fittest and all. :^)
> If you had higher morals then you would not kill without justification, so you kinda defeat your point.
Wait, but didn't you just say humans have higher morals? Well, if we don't, then we are also justified to eat animals since we are now the same. It's a losing game no matter how you twist it. :^)
> I never argue with feelings
> I reject all reasons to eat animals because of muh feelings
> but well done on countering my accusation of appeal to nature, with an appeal to nature.
You don't really don't know what's an appeal to nature fallacy is, do you? Protip: comparing something to nature doesn't make it naturally a fallacy. Saying we ate meat because we are rigged to eat is no more of a fallacy than saying we drink milk because we are mammals.
> Retard.
You sound upset. :^)
>>75660576
Why should i care about fucking animals feeling? Are you retarded or what? Btw don't hurt fucking vegetables and starve to death please.
>>75665899
yeah these vegans are a sick bunch and they preffer their food alive, seems like they get off on dominating people too I say just start executing them.
>>75665197
>Can you imagine if we stopped eating meat wouldn't even have the wrist strength to fire a weapon without breaking your wrist and the enemy have just eaten a fuck tonne of camels looking for a fight.
kek
I love the way they say "being vegan is healthy as long as you take supplements", when the very FACT you have to take supplements PROVES it's not healthy
fucking faggotrons
>>75665759
causing siffering and killing requires justification - basic ethics
see above
when im not sentient
All non sentient
Red meat is a carcinogen and contains high cholesterol.... thats not good for humans, im not the health police thiugh.
>>75665821
i left because ive gone onto better things. Loved the army though
>>75665992
I was calling him a pussy.
I already justified it We eat to Survive.
>then he said oh you don't eat one meal a day and you are a gluttonous fat pig living in western society who is a cuck.
Fuck you pieces of shit I eat what I can get.
>>75665240
>If you had higher morals then you would not kill without justification
why not?
>>75665899
Given up already? :( Hide behind a pretty pathetic attempt of humor then. You're probably not actually a bad person, just trying to be edgy/funny. Probably consciously put up a mental wall in your brain to stop yourself from seriously considering the issue, which is pretty dumb because regardless of your previous experiences there's no point denying that it's an important issue with substantial moral implications. Just consider it. That's all I'm asking you to do.
>>75665896
Because we are constantly adapting.
Non meat diets are very low calorie, to fully get the energy you need from it, you need to eat a lot and a big gut to digest it.
Eating no meat means putting energy into growing our digestive system.
Eating meat is what allowed us to put energy into expanding our brains.
Why revert the process?
>>75666150
>We eat to Survive.
But we don't need to eat meat to survive.
>>75666082
SINCE YOU LIKE TO PLAY THE JUSTIFICATION GAME
JUSTIFY VEGAN SERIAL KILLERS TO ME
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfGWgRy6jjs
>>75665571
It does justify it. I not only kill it myself but I feed my family with it. They receive nutrition that they can not survive without. If you want to be a vegan that's fine. But if you force young children to be you're fucking horrible parent. No child should be malnourished because the parents want a pat on the back for bieng eco-friendly.
Also why justifies you saying animals are equal to man? What's your underlying principle? Sentience and suffering isn't an argument. I believe we're custodians of the earth. So while we may be in charge we must also respect nature. Not causing unnecessary suffering and not taking more than is needed.
You're aware that hunters spend more money on conservation than any other demographic right?
>>75666234
Balanced diet is best diet.
>>75665287
>slaughterfarms
do you mean abattoirs?
most slaughter doesn't happen on farms
you fucking "muh feelings" faggot
why aren't you trying to solve the big issue of our times? the survival of our races children?
>>75666257
There were also meat-eating serial killers, please justify them to me
>>75666014
MORAL superiority would mean actually having morals...the most basic of which is not causing suffering without justification.
You dont understand what morals mean if you think it can be used to argue for stabbing animals without justification.... study the English language more mate
> you said it is justfied (good) because it is nature
so yeah you appealed to nature.
> i reject killing animals because muh feelings
If you can read and pay attention then you would know im saying that im against killing without justification, nobody in this thread has justified stabbing animals when there is no reason to do so....nice try at a cop out though.
Not upset, im just calling you a retard because you are acting like a retard.
>>75665439
>You live in a civilised country
>>75664396
>implying animals rape
and if it happens it's an exception or accidental
>>75666357
they arn't the except the vegans are the non-regulars.
>>75666082
What makes your "basic ethics" correct?
Say I kill a frog, no reason, I'm just compulsed to do so.
Explain why that is objectively wrong.
>>75648469
In fairness, if I was a police officer and people were telling me that they were being persecuted by the pro-sausage faction for being vegan I would probably fucking laugh in their face as well.
>>75666234
You are a fucking savage for hurting vegetables man, they are living too, you realy are a savage beast.
>>75666294
Which is why vegetarians live 10 years longer on average even when the socioeconomic difference is accounted for? Vegetarianism is much healthier, no real point denying that, not with all the data we have, it's at the very least easier to get all the nutrients your body requires and avoid fat, etc. on a vegetarian diet. Not to mention the fact that if America alone went vegetarian they could feed 800 million more people because of how inefficient meat-eating is. http://www.news.cornell.edu/stories/1997/08/us-could-feed-800-million-people-grain-livestock-eat
>>75666426
What
>>75666357
Im asking for justification for vegans going out killing meat eaters.
you don't often see killers that eat meat TARGETTING vegans cause veganism... but you do see vegans going out and killing meat eaters because hurt feelings.
>try using that extra 15IQ points.
>>75657872
>>75648723
How the hell is being vegetarian * being a liberal shill? *
I'm a vegetarian and ethnic nationalist who looks to national socialism as our only example to study and it was Hitler who inspired me to vegetarianism as another form of self discipline for a greater cause.
Everyone doesn't need to be a vegetarian because it just isn't economically practical or at least back then it wasn't.
It does cost more to be vegetarian and so I would never even personally assume everyone should do it.Daily fresh salad * with various salad toppings so i dont go crazy eating sald every day * and vegetarian whey cost way more than being able to eat what you want.
A lot of vegetarians seem to be really fucking dirty and pleb and say vegetarianism is cheaper but get fucking real the stuff you would eat daily to make that true is either for women who dont care about muscle or hipster nu-males that dont either.
>>75651432
A dude sucked your bleeding mutilated dick when you were a baby.
I wonder if achmed is against pig hunting even though they are an invasive species that does 10s of billions in crop damage every year?
https://youtu.be/y0ss6gCPNs4
>>75666562
Plants are not intelligent. Plants have neither a means not an evolutionary reason to feel pain or to be intelligent. Plants do not have a central nervous system or a brain. Why would it be evolutionarily advantageous for an organism incapable of moving to feel pain? Think about it. Intelligence has no utility if you can't act upon the understanding that it gives you.
>>75665705
>calling free thinkers cucks
you think you are a free-thinker? hahaha
oh behave!
you've been brainwashed by the fag lobby into lowering your testotyrone and becoming a femme
your kind will die out, nature is violent, without the will to survive(which you lack)
>>75665896
>justfies stabbing animals in 2016
ITS THE CURRENT YEAR!!
>>75665896
>you can eat shit, soil, rooted dirty veg, untreated water...or eat marmite
derp
>>75666594
>>75666635
Vegans going out to kill meat eaters specifically.
>why is that so difficult to comprehend ? especially with all your posturing they are smarter better looking stronger live longer and are far more morally righteous and are totally not a wierd fringe group.
>>75666025
>why should i not cause suffering to other sentient beings when it is easily in my power to do
>>75666154
because you have higher morals....
>>75666208
because you are not in famine and can have 3 meals a day without a corpse or animal secretion. Meat is not linked to intelligence.
>>75666257
lol
>>75666281
> if you dont force your children to eat cholesterol and carcinogens but force them to eat fruits, veggies, nuts, seeds, legumes, oats, plant milk then you are fucking horrible
I never said animals are equal to man. Ever. Pay attention child. And sentience is an argument... to cause suffering to a sentient being requires a justification.
>hunters thinking they are in it for the well fare of animals
This is why people hate hunters. Just be honest. You enjoy killing defenceless animals.
>>75666694
You are still taking their opportunity for life. And fish can't feel pain either.
>These dramatic faggots acting like this was some kind of terrorist attack
#NotAllCarnivores
>>75666385
yeah its fucked ennit
> i know more redpilled indian and bengali girls and even a couole of pakis than whites
>>75660478
>Believing the protein deficiency meme
>>75648469
Build a Walls.
>>75666446
I have to explain why killing without a reason is wrong??
>why is me killing a baby human just because i wanted to do so wrong?
>>75666653
Hitler wasn't vegetarian, he was advised by his doctors to be but didn't listen to them anyway, stop being a liberal cunt and read a history book.
>Daily fresh salad
You're pretty evidently not vegetarian and this is a pretty pathetic attempt at trying to bring it down. I don't know a single vegetarian who eats salad regularly. I do know a lot of meat-eater middle age women trying yet another diet eating salad though
>>75666820
>meat is not linked to intelligence.
You know nothing about human adaptation and evolution.
>>75666364
> MORAL superiority would mean actually having morals...the most basic of which is not causing suffering without justification.
Which suffering? Meat slaughtering is mostly painless. :^)
> You dont understand what morals mean if you think it can be used to argue for stabbing animals without justification.... study the English language more mate
I already gave you justification. Study more English if you still didn't understand it. :^)
> you said it is justfied (good) because it is nature
> couldn't get it
I said it's justified because we are rigged to do so. Unless you really want to argue that vegetarianism is the ideal diet, with those nutrient complements you need to take. :^)
> If you can read and pay attention then you would know im saying that im against killing without justification, nobody in this thread has justified stabbing animals when there is no reason to do so....
But there is a reason to do so: because we are rigged to eat meat. Just like we are rigged to drink milk. We can for example replace milk with other substances... but no reason since milk is right here. :^)
> nice try at a cop out though.
Not really, it works fine for me. :^)
> Not upset, im just calling you a retard because you are acting like a retard.
Keep going, I can taste it. :^)
>>75666082
>Red meat is a carcinogen and contains high cholesterol.... thats not good for humans, im not the health police thiugh.
no, your the faggot police, WAAA MY FEEEEWINGS
>>75666169
>Given up already?
given up thinking that you have the right to tell me what to do? or what my morals should be?
yup
>>75666820
Oh so your response to Vegan's going out to Kill meat eaters is "lol" nice work showing off that extra 15iq points.
>Thank you for this information.
Where were you when Georgian ULTRA NATIONALISTS removed vegan?
>>75666884
But fish can feel pain, that's a fact. You don't know what your talking about
>>75667029
Not my species why should i care? You should learn fucking basics of surviving you spoiled overly emotional bitch.
>>75667029
You kill millions each time you jack off into a mirror every day.
>>75667063
Vegetarians have average IQ's of 15 points higher than meat-eaters, the modern agricultural industry has rendered meat unnecessary for proper brain development.
>>75666737
1. Yes i clearly am, nobody has yet come up with an actual justification. Meanwhile i took a step back and realised i cannot justify killing animals....so i stopped. That is free thinking.
You are arguing what society has indoctrinated into you...that it is ok to cause suffering to animals (and to our planet)
>current year
If you actually read what i wrote then i was responding to somebody who was using time as an argument " ancestors "
>derp
woah you refuted me, you justfied the animal holocayst.
>>75666820
Ofcourse I enjoy it but I respect nature and to preserve it for future generations
>my families sustenance isn't justification
>Hunters for the hungry (a group that gives all extra meat to homeless shelters and needy families) isn't justification
K
>>75667203
>I can't distinguish between the white goo that I lick out of my dad's asshole and my dog :((9fdsa090909fsd0909s!!111
>>75667148
The Irish realy are niggers, they don't it's been proved.
>>75666940
>foreigners
>redpilled
They left country, now they crawling into your ass to get to your money and then replace you dumbass. Maybe you are an Indian.
>>75667029
Because men decided it to be so.
Do you think a lion would care?
Do you think even a human enemy would care?
Let me guess you are pro abortion anyway.
>>75667232
>Vegetarians have average IQ's of 15 points higher
Why do leftists always claim they have higher IQs?
http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20131125-why-the-stupid-say-theyre-smart
>>75666655
dem digits
>>75666820
>because you have higher morals....
aah, a tautology, nicely faggoted fag
>>75667257
>nobody has yet come up with an actual justification
we have, it's obvious. not eating meat turns you into a fag, as you have so instructively demonstrated
and we like the taste
we are vicious killers, do not fucking mess with us
>>75665240
>because they are not sentient. no fucking studies demonstrate plant sentience you dense cunt.
Sentience: the capacity to feel, perceive, or experience subjectively.
Plants can sense water, they emit chemicals to warn other plants of danger. They release pheremones when under threat, turn towards sunlight, sense blockages to the root growth and negotiate around them, research shows they DO feel pain.
Now, I am suggesting that plants - like all living things - would rather stay alive than die. You appear to be suggesting that not having a face means you're not REALLY alive.
I kill things to eat. So do you. You can live with that and shut the fuck up about ethics, or you can continue to try and keep your seat on this moral high horse. All the while demonstrating that, more than ethics, what's really important to you is looking down on the savages that aren't as enlightened as you are.
>>75667099
nope. i loled because your argument was dumb
>>75667089
I told you how harmful animal corpses can actual be to humans then your response is to say im "waaaaw".... what an emotional response.
>>75667085
1. No it is not....and even if it was not - how does that justify killing an animal?
2. > we are rigged to do so
Yeah i always have to stop children from hunting and killing animals when they see them, its just instincts!!!..,...
3. > we are rigged to suck cows udders to get milk
4. Retard.
>>75667232
>>75667029
because you stupid fucks keep going on and on and on about how you are so much better even though we have provided data to the contrary it makes me feel like you are suffering learning dissability due to veganism.
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Learning+Disabilities+caused+by+Veganism
>you need some Redmeat or some Pills or your brain is going to keep decaying and the synapses will start to break down and leave you a vegetable.
>You thought its called Veganism cause its about eating vegetables.
>>75667503
>I told you how harmful animal corpses can actual be to humans
you told me what some faggots in white coats CLAIMED
>>75667472
Boom, you nailed it.
>more than ethics, what's really important to you is looking down on the savages that aren't as enlightened as you are.
No truer word spoken.
>>75667149
>survival fantasies in modern civilisation
> i dont care about the well being of other purely because they are not human
>>75667306
Yeah because your family could just go to the shop and eat, you have no justification for shooting animals. Unless ofcourse you are in the wild (which you are not) or legit poor (which im gonna assume you are not as you have the internet)
>>75667030
Vegetarianism aligns with national socialism as another means of disciplining your own individualism for a greater good.
Also what are you trying to say about salad? Bagged salad goes back in pretty much 1 day so I do buy it either every day or every 2.
Hitler was a vegetarian, and if you are able then you should be too faggot
>>75667503
Europeans and a few other places actualy did evolve to drink cow titty milk and other lactose animal products
You're actively denying biology at this point
See pic
>>75667669
My arguement is about as stupid as veganism.
https://youtu.be/z0O_VYcsIk8
>>75666820
>This is why people hate hunters. Just be honest. You enjoy killing defenceless animals.
Quite frankly if you hate hunters I can't take your opinion seriously.
There's an argument to be made that today's factory farming is too cruel.
But animals die, they'll die by a hunter or they'll die in the winter. That's just nature.
>>75667503
> 1. No it is not....
Prove that there is no way to slaughter without suffering. :^)
> and even if it was not - how does that justify killing an animal?
1 - There is no suffering.
2 - I get food with nutrients that my body requires. :^)
> 2. > we are rigged to do so
> Yeah i always have to stop children from hunting and killing animals when they see them, its just instincts!!!..,...
Actually, that would be on par on trying to stop children from eating steaks. :^)
> 3. > we are rigged to suck cows udders to get milk
Who said about cows? But we are rigged to drink human milk. Just like eating animal meat. :^)
> 4. Retard.
You are so cute anon. Keep shitposting, I am sure you will stop me from making my weekly barbecue. :^)
>>75667669
Must be a shit life caring about uninteligent animals whole day. Retarded fucks with no moral standing like you inspire me to eat as much meat as i can.
>>75667669
So I guess you just hate the homeless then don't you mister moral high ground? :^)
mmm, gonna be veal tonight, never had it before, but these pussy ass faggot cucks made me decide to try it
if it's any good I'll be having it every night for the next week
is there any way to tell which veal is most abused?
>>75667546
You pretty clearly don't know what you're talking about. The link between vegetarianism and high IQs has been proven. Here's a link as meaningful as the one you provided me http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Learning+Disabilities+caused+by+meateating
>>75667832
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63NNuG-6-hQ
>>75667377
Nope, 1 has never even been to india while the other i know hates bangladesh
>hurr durr different skin = bad all the times
>>75667393
.... what the fuck are you saying? How is that justifying animal cruelty?
Pro abortion is some cases.... once the organism is sentient then there is no justification to kill it.
>>75667468
> me using logic and reasoning means im a fag
>>75667472
None of that demonstrates sentience, it demonstrates INTELLIGENCE. A computer can do all of those things.
Weird how you stick up for plants so much but not animals who are obviously sentient
Even IF plants could siffer why does that justify stabbing animals?
>>75667571
Nope its what scientists can demonstrate.... please dont be white and scientifically illiterate.
>>75667760
>Hitler was a vegetarian, and if you are able then you should be too faggot
Fuck off, I'll never be vegetarian. And stop saying Hitler was, he clearly wasn't. Literally every written account from him and his caterers clearly outline that he was advised to become vegetarian but didn't. You're clearly just trying to give Hitler a bad name, liberal scum. Fuck off.
>>75667780
Hmm it makes sense that asians have the lowest tolerance for milk as the natives here are known for being lactose intolerant.
>>75668047
> me using logic and reasoning
> still haven't used logic or reasoning, only feels
:^)
>>75667971
See whilst I am an advovcate for eating meat, things like foie gras and veal do seem a bit more barbaric than needed.
>>75668047
>me using logic and reasoning means im a fag
you being a fag means your a veggie, cumslurping veggie faggot veal hater
mmmm, yummy yummy yummy tortured baby cow
you caused it, I was gonna have chicken
>>75667853
>appeal to nature
And you wanna be smug...
>>75667884
There is still killing, and most likely suffering. Nothing you wrote justifies stabbing animals. You just ramble on like a retard.
>>75667953
Still not justifying killing animals - nice appeal to ridicule though
>>75667965
Nope, if they ate meat then they would at least have a justification to do so.
>>75668045
Thanks for the Laugh matey!
>>75668047
>Nope its what scientists can demonstrate
what they SAY they can demonstrate, I'm assuming you haven't replicated any of the studies, you just believe whatever the fuck they tell you, like a good cum-guzzling abo-vegoo faggot prick
>>75668251
mmm, foie gras, never had that, will buy some tomorrow
>>75668047
Thinks killing babies is morally wrong.
Think abortion is justified.
Vegans everybody, give them a round of applause.
>>75668214
Me asking for justification is not feels.
>>75668260
>eating healthy food means you are le fag huehuehuehuehueh
Right im off, nobody has replied with an actual justification.
If any of you actually have the guts to be free thinkers and actually critically think your own dogmatic beliefs then watch this
> i have the attention span of a 2 year old its too long
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ueqDkY3aNAY
>>75668276
> There is still killing,
Killing isn't evil. :^)
> and most likely suffering
Cannot prove. :^)
> Nothing you wrote justifies stabbing animals.
Adquiring meat does it. :^)
> You just ramble on like a retard.
You need some new words anon. Are you an Indian by chance? Sorry for eating your sacred animal. :^)
>>75668355
Its not so nice, its like a very rich pate.
I had some rural country type stuff from france, smelled like cat food desu
>>75668356
>thinking a fetus is sentient from conception
>>75668445
>If any of you actually have the guts to be free thinkers and actually critically think your own dogmatic beliefs then watch this
enjoy your buttplugs faggot
veal tonight, foie gras tomorrow
>>75668356
Vegetarians are on average much much more likely to be opposed to abortion than meat-eaters fyi
>>75668120
You're very deluded that you're this invested into the thought that Hitler being vegetarian actually gives him a bad name.
As if someone actually came here who hates Hitler and said * this is how I will attack Hitler, I will argue that he..he was a vegetarian. fuck i got these alt-right guys now! *
I feel bad for you. You're really invested in hating vegetarianism * fuck off ill never be vegetarian *
I will say and believe Hitler was a vegetarian, and you will believe the opposite BUT regardless we both know Hitler would openly respect it greatly and so you being this rooted in meat eating is just degenerate.
>>75668497
what's that one where they pickle baby birds in spirits?
>>75668445
> Me asking for justification is not feels.
> But I dismiss all justifications because muh feels.
You gone full circle shitposting my friend. :^)
>>75668445
>Ill save everyone some time.
He wants to change the definition of murder.
@ 1:01:40
>>75668491
acquiring a corpse does not justify killing when you can eat anything else.
You are probably to stupid but try and watch this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ueqDkY3aNAY
/out/
>>75668525
Please read a history book, Hitler was never vegetarian
>>75668597
You cannot kill a corpse.
>>75668591
>if i put your conciousness into a computer and turn it off suddenly its not murder even though im killing you
>>75668510
Why is sentience the overall, deciding factor of what makes life sacred?
Who the fuck made you the authority on when killing is justifiable?
Just because it happens to fit into your specific parameters.
What a self indulgent faggot you are.
Is eating deaf dumb and blind creatures okay by you?
>>75668693
never said it did
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ueqDkY3aNAY
>>75668771
no because they are sentient
>>75668597
> acquiring a corpse does not justify killing when you can eat anything else.
Which other natural food contains meat only vitamin? :^)
> You are probably to stupid but try and watch this
> Reposting the video
Google won't help you now. :^)
>>75668523
Yet this faggot isn't, making him a hypocrite.
I have nothing wrong with vegetarians or vegans, until they start preaching about their "higher" moral standards.
>>75668880
sorry we have higher moral standards. Sorry that makes you feel bad and need to lash out...
>>75668609
Haha it's funny because you're recommending a mainstream source, and so as will I.
Simply google it.
I didn't think anyone could be so invested in being anti-vegetarian that they think someone holding the idea that Hitler was one is * damaging Hitler *
Believe me son no faggot who hates Hitler accuses him of being vegetarian. It's something they try to cover up because it's a noble life style.
>>75668556
Never heard of it.
>>75668733
>I turned the computer off to save it from data corruption so you didn't get missing memory.
If you want to Kill a sentient program or a human brain upload you need to delete the files not turn off a computer
what if you have backups?
What if you totally destroy the files and the computer only to have it brough back by HDD repair?
Where do you draw the line ?
Is killing clones wrong?
I would say the moment a full brain scan is uploaded and conciousness is moved to the computer thats the moment of death for the Human body.
>>75669026
I'll keep an eye out for it, sounds delicious
MMMM< VEEEEAAAAL TOMIGHT, GONNA BASH IT A BIT WITH A TENDSERIZER TOOO
FAGGOT VEGANS BTFO
>>75668835
You're clearly going in circles, that in no way answers any of my points.
More tasty bacon and steaks for the rest of us anyways.
>>75669176
Fuck yeah I had Veal for Lunch Beef for Dinner (lasagna) and gunna get me some thing to snack on maybe got some beef jerky.
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