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Other than MUH DEGENERACY please make one good point why weed
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You can't honestly think that marijuana should remain illegal while drugs like alcohol and tobacco are considered a-okay to consume and legal, it's just retarded tb.h
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>>74301811

its just a Phase, you will get over it.
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>>74301811
It makes you stupid.
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>>74301811
it doesnt kill you but transforms you into a brainless monkey who does nothing else but smoke pot.
it literally turns you stupid by proxy.
additionally its really just a phase for many highschool and college kids. once your out of education/academia you got other things to worry about than fucking blazing it up all day.
or you know, you dont in which case youre transforming into a useless retard.
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I used to share the same opinion, but one of my friends recently really went downhill because of it, he never took anything else not even alcohol. He can't think right anymore, some scary shit.
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DEVILS WEED!
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>>74302587
This is not a side effect of the weed
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Either all drugs should be banned, and yes that includes tobacco and alcohol, or no drugs should be banned. In an ideal world, nothing would need to be banned and people wouldn't abuse anything.
Personally I don't care about it, as long as you are smoking your shit (whatever it is) far away from me, as I cannot stand the smell.
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>>74301811
We don't need any more legal intoxicants, especially the kind whose users are oblivious to its effect on the mind.
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>>74302539

Must suck to not have any self control.
Do you live in fear of being addicted to caffeine, sugar, trans-fats, porn, alcohol, running, water, video games, aspirin, huffing, adrenaline, meth, arson, gambling...
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I love how these threads show how hypocritical the /pol/ hivemind is.

>muh freedom, muh personal responsibility

>NOOOO!!! WEED IS BAD I DONT WANT PEOPLE SMOKING IT KEEP IT ILLEGAL!!!!
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>>74303103
>Do you live in fear of being addicted to caffeine, sugar, trans-fats, porn, alcohol, running, water, video games, aspirin, huffing, adrenaline, meth, arson, gambling...
who doesnt
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>>74303131
This
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>>74301811
You forgot
>Protip: you can't
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>>74302587
They probably had problems before smoking.
Addiction isn't a problem, it's been proven to be symptom.
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Black people get arrested for it all the time which I think is funny so I want it to remain illegal
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>>74303103
Well no shit people have no self control .Why do you think so many people are fat?
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>does smoking weed make you stupid?
yes
>should we live in a nanny-state that tells adults what they can and can't do?
no, part of what america great is that you're allowed to be an idiot.
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DUDE
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>>74301811
I am 100% for legal drugs but if you are homeless trying to get gubment bennys and fail a drug test you get no bennys.
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>>74303398

Because 90% of the time they've got other issues and they eat to cope.
Normal people can easily control their appetite.
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>>74303408
>>74302374
>Smoking weed makes you stupid!!!!11!!

You sound like 4th graders

Also, citation needed
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>>74301811
why not just legalize heroin and cocaine
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>>74301811
it fucks with your god damned brain
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This thread again. Whether you smoke it or not, you should support the legalization of marijuana. If you want it to stay illegal, you're basically saying it's okay to give up your freedoms and let the government have more control over what you can and can not do in your life. It's disgusting that cops can literally put you behind bars and ruin your life because you have some plant buds in your pocket. Do any of you people that want it to remain illegal know why it became illegal in the first place?

As for people that claim "smoking makes you stupid" or "it ruined my life," these things only happen to people that are already weak minded and make poor decisions regardless of the plant. There are far more successful weed smokers than burnouts in the world. You would be surprised how many successful people you come across on a daily basis (assuming you actually leave your house) that smoke every day.

All drugs should be legal to be honest familia.
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>>74303812

So does skydiving, fishing, meditation, sex, dirt biking, etc.
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>>74302539
Not true. The only time I feel like a normal human is when I smoke.
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>>74303563
>same guy who says weed cures cancer without citation
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>>74304115
I don't believe weed cures cancer.
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>>74303103
But those vices have some form of regulation or authority to control them. Or at the very least, evidence is acknowledged that if taken beyond moderation negative effects will occur.

What pot-heads fail to grasp, with such effort put into glamorizing marijuana as the plant that will save the human race in order to legalize it, it completely overshadows the potential for peer reviewed research into it's side effects to be acknowledged.

What has to be kept in mind is that it's a mind altering substance. Just like alcohol, over time the effects become psychologically ingrained into your personality. In other words you aren't you without your pot. What's your life then other than one high to the next when the moderate doses aren't cutting it anymore?
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>>74303563
http://www.apa.org/monitor/2015/11/marijuana-brain.aspx

Smoking weed DOES make you stupid
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>>74303752
cuz weed is just an herb bro. like it comes from dirt n shit.

but seriously that argument is a red herring.
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Things are illegal because the undesirables in society need their own job market.
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i only like the fact that weed is illegal because it makes 420 blaze it faggots upset.
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>>74304337
>Frequent use
>Three or more waves

Abusing any drug including caffeine or alcohol will lead to problems.

Alcohol kills brain cells but you don't hear anybody saying

>Drinking will make you stupid!

Nobody is saying you should smoke every day for years at a time.
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>>74301811
>not healthy
>addicting
>hurts others around you if consumed by smoking

alcohol is being consumed mostly on weekends unlike weed
ciggarets should also be illegal
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there's literally no reason except contrarian pissbabies on /pol/. Marijuana can be pretty effective for various medicinal purposes, and is much healthier for patients than a lot of prescription drugs they could otherwise take.
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>>74302539
depends from person to person. Was a regular smoker, and it made me crazy insightful. Actually made me redpilled. Lurked on /pol/ almost daily for 3years while being pro-EU, Obama, Labourparty globalist. Still, what made me redpilled was the weed and the ability it gave me to pop out of the bubble society created around me.
Havent smoked in a couple of months because of exams tho. Cant get anything done while smoking.
this isnt the same as being dumb however. it just makes you so just dont really care about day-to-day stuff because you see things from a different angle while high.
your comment just shows how fucking biased you are and that you never tried weed more than like 10 times ever.
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>>74301811
Because it is for the weak minded and promotes an irresponsible lifestyle. Other than that I don't care. Legalize it and fuck up your life.
The problem here is that in my country if someone fucks up his life, the government will give him/here taxpayer money to live and carry on with their irresponsible lifestyle. I'm strongly against it.
So if I live in a socialist country with a social security system, I will be against it.
However, if I live in a free country where you are responsible for your choices, aka you fuck up, it's your problem. I have no problem with weed being legal in that case.

I want to add that the argument that "if you drink alcohol but are against weed then you are an hypocrite" is stupid. People who drink to get drunk are not socially accepted. Why should I accept someone you smoke to get high ?
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>>74301811
I think it should be legal. It would be a good form of tax revenue, and I don't think it's as harmful as something like cigarettes.

Also, I don't smoke it so I don't care if it makes people stupid.
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>>74303385
I actually saw a video from Huffington or some other such bullshit site saying that weed being legalised was racist because nogs who'd previously been punished for illegal possession couldn't enjoy it now that it was legal or something along those lines.
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It should be legal and is much safer and healthier than alcohol aka the liquid Jew
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ITT: Children yelling to other children about something they don't like. The children on the other side will yell back and nothing will be proven except the stupidity of anyone participating in this thread. Get fucked you retards.
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>>74301811
>one good point why weed should be illegal
There is none. The only people who support prohibition are LEAs, drug dealers and dumbass statists.
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>>74304952

The only way caffeine can be abused is as a pure substance. Coffee, tea, etc.. will not kill you. They will not even negatively affect you.
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>>74305550
>legalize it and fuck up your life
don´t worry, the only difference will be taxing and more control of who buys it.
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>>74303131
/pol/ is nothing but statist shills who want freedom for themselves but also want a strong government to ban everything that they dislike.

The same people who want to burn crosses and call out the kikes are the ones wanting to ban flag burning and any dissenting opinions.
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>>74305550
>not socially accepted
> people drinking to get drunk on every tv show day and night

ok.

Your whole post is shit.
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>>74306026
Either retarded or trolling.

>Search Results
Coffee containing caffeine can cause insomnia, nervousness and restlessness, stomach upset, nausea and vomiting, increased heart and breathing rate, and other side effects. Consuming large amounts of coffee might also cause headache, anxiety, agitation, ringing in the ears, and irregular heartbeats.
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I don't know if I agree that it should be illegal, but if you have kids, and you're willing to risk going to jail over this trivial shit, you're a terrible fucking parent.
I can't sympathize with this
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>>74304337
If u even bothered to read what u linked you would see there is no causation and hardly even a correlation I've never smoked weed it just never appealed to me but you are honestly a full blown retard
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>>74306253
Yeah he's retarded. A lot of old people can't drink caffeine can give them heart problems/heart attacks. I thought everyone knew that.
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You can go to a restaurant and have a beer and be fine to drive. A single beer won't have any psychoactive affect. Meanwhile, smoking pot has an immediate psychoactive release and is going to make driving more dangerous for both you and the innocent people minding their own business. Not only this, but there's no practical way to gauge the intoxication level of somebody who's been using pot. We can't do a breathalizer equivalent for marijuana. There's no way to enforce it the safety laws, meaning they're easier to undermine, therefor putting more innocents in harm's way just so dumbasses can get their high.

>muh weed is harmless
kill yourself
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>>74306212
>people drinking to get drunk on every tv show day and night
I've never seen any autralian tv show, but I doubt that drinking is encouraged in them.
But sure, maybe in australia people being dead drunk at lunch time is widely accepted.
>your whole post is shit
not an argument :^)
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>>74301811
Look at Kevin Smith. He's a perfect example on not to smoke weed.
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>>74303752

Cocaine is more legal than Marijuana, even though cocaine will kill you, and is by far more addictive (physically addictive where Marijuana is no more addictive than porn, sex, or video games (psychologically addictive))
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>>74301811
Because we have a gigantic welfare state.
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>Kevin smith

Gonna need a link with that generic ass name
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>You can't honestly think that marijuana should remain illegal while drugs like alcohol and tobacco are considered a-okay to consume and legal

Wrong. I would make alcohol and tobacco illegal in a heartbeat if I could, but it's just not feasible in our society.

The great thing about marijuana is that we can still suppress the degenerate faggots who use it by getting them arrested. Die, druggie faggots.

>ther than MUH DEGENERACY please make one good point why weed should be illegal

Really? Just one good point? Okay.

Currently, we have a cultural climate which wrongly says "weed is the safest plant in the world man, it can totally do no wrong, man!" which is unequivocally FALSE. This meme was generated by moronic druggies who read "marijuana cannot cause death by overdose" (true) and decided to interpret that as "marijuana cannot cause any sort of problem in any person's life EVER, ever, EVER!" because they are too fucking stoned to comprehend a simple sentence.

Marijuana has the capability to cause MANY problems in the lives of people who use it, as well as in other peoples' lives. For example:

-Car accidents.
-Workplace-related injuries.
-Non-workplace related injuries.
-Mental illness.
-Apathy.
-Underachievement.
-Degeneracy. ("I love masturbating while high!")
-Et cetera.

The biggest reason why marijuana should remain illegal is this: Fuck you, that's why. Kiss my ass, you degenerate stoner faggot.
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>>74308830
Are you really that retarded?
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Weed is the shittiest drug on the planet
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>>74308830
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Kevin+Smith&l=1

Shitty, one-note director that was only popular because he was early to the "geek culture" thing.
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>>74309194
actually what you listed are effects of alcohol
alcohol must be made illegal and everyone who partakes must be shot
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>>74309559
You are the shittiest Canadian.
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Other more dangerous things being legal isn't a good reason for this to be legal.

However, it should be legal for other reasons. On the basis of grown ass adults don't need big brother to tell them something is bad and to jail them for doing it. We didn't make it illegal off of a health basis, because if we did then plenty of other things need to be criminalized immediately.

I broke my leg rock climbing, therefore climbing must be illegal. Because think of the poor children.

If cannabis really did turn everyone into literal bernouts then this country wouldn't be able to function, chances are you've come across a smoker in a professional position and didn't even know it. Because you like to focus on the literal stereotype and refuse to acknowledge the existence of anything but that. I don't hang around those stereotypes, therefore everyone I know that smokes cannabis are employed, go to school, have ambitions, etc.
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>>74309194
keked really hard
drive better while high
do day-to-day tasks better while high
it makes me sharpen my concentration.
Makes it really simple to focus on one task at a time.
As for the rest its entirely up to each and every individual. Its choices. Do or not do. Weak minded people will fuck up anyhow.
Try weed, be amazed.
Also; i fell for your bait. might aswell roll a join and jack off. because its chill to take a wank while high
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>>74306594
>We can't do a breathalizer equivalent for marijuana

Literally being developed, free market at work.
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>>74309457
>>74309606

I don't keep track of celebrities, only fags do that. Fags
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because you want to get high its worthless

alcohol is retarded too
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>>74301811
Because you let government to do whatever it wants. Enjoy results.
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>>74310041
>However, it should be legal for other reasons. On the basis of grown ass adults don't need big brother to tell them something is bad and to jail them for doing it.
Big brother > grown ass adults. Big brother could do anything. It is the main and undeniable reason to ban weed. Because big brother.
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>>74304084
Coming from a regular smoker that's not good man, that's textbook addiction
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>>74306253
>Coffee containing caffeine can cause insomnia, nervousness and restlessness, stomach upset, nausea and vomiting, increased heart and breathing rate, and other side effects.

Right, and cannabis causes paranoia in people who are prone to it.

We're talking about regular & healthy population. There are no ill effects associated with the prolonged use of caffeine. None.
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>>74310073
Heipådei kukostnegerfittafaenegesteinsoeinbanan
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honestly anyone who is dumb enough to let any drug turn them into more of a degenerate than they already are should be lynched. smoking this shit occasionally is fine but people who smoke non stop might as well be lobotomized rabbits
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To be clear, I don't think anybody actually dislikes the plant. I think everybody is just tired of the cannabis crybabies who think that THC is a panacea and that it cures everything from cancer to lumbago to sciatica. The annoying in-your-facedness of these marijuana marauders is a serious detriment to their cause.

Stoner culture is retarded, too.
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>>74302539
I got 2 businesses running with 60.000+ (EUR) monthly income. I smoke every day after work weed. I got a huge amount of friends (real friends not /pol/) Your argument is invalid.
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>>74311761
I can go from smoking a joint every day for a month + then stop immediately with no side effects.

Don't you fucking dare try to take my coffee away from me though, I'll fucking kill you after a week without it.
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>>74309194

>wanting to imprison 40-50 million people.

That's the problem with your thinking.

Do you know how implausible that is?

it's just as bad as prohibition.
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>>74311761
You are a real retard.

Be happy you're spouting this nonsense off on a Taiwanese fish scaling forum and not out in public where everyone can see how stupid you are
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>>74312114
That's true, I'm also a daily smoker.
Last month I made a 1 week pause without any side effects. I don't need it always but it's a nice benfit like Internet
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>>74312274
You are a shining example of why weed should be illegal.
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>>74312114
>I can go from smoking a joint every day for a month + then stop immediately with no side effects.

Congratulations. You are stronger than psychological addiction.

>Don't you fucking dare try to take my coffee away from me though, I'll fucking kill you after a week without it.

It's really not that hard to not have caffeine, either. I'm aware that it's addictive, but it's not exactly a hard addiction to beat.
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>>74312397
I don't smoke weed, so you can fuck off with that argument
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>>74312221
You mean 40-50 million people want to imprison themselves by breaking the law?

Have some personal responsibility.
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>>74312221

and let's say we did imprison everyone that smokes marijuana, in order for prohibition to work.

It costs about $30,000 a year per person to keep people in prison. That's not even counting how many new prisons would need to be constructed, at taxpayer cost, to house all these inmates.

$30,000*40,000,000 is $1.2 trillion dollars a year.

That's double our defense budget.

That's 1.5x what social security costs us, the single most expensive item in our budget.

That's not even counting the lost revenue of not having those people working and paying taxes, but rather sitting in jail.
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>>74312462
Whatever you say mate.
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>>74312274

I get it, you're a pot smoker and you're buttblasted that I'm not toeing the 'dude weed' line.

I'm pro-legalization, but I'm absolutely 100% against the dude-weedisms that follow around cannabis like a bad smell. They're impossible to get rid of and they're a detriment to the cause.

I swear, people who come on here and perpetuate these crazy myths about pot having "no side effects" and "curing cancer" must be CALM/SAM astroturfers.
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>>74312513

It's the same as alcohol prohibition, you cause more problems than you "solve" by banning a substance and trying to throw everyone in jail for using it.

You raise violent crime, you create black markets, you don't lower the use rates and you pack jails at taxpayer expense.

It's retarded and pro-prohibitionists are some of the dumbest fucking people on the planet. They're living in a fairy tale.
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>>74312665
Like I told the aussie, I don't even smoke but i'm not even talking about weed when I'm calling you retarded.

You think there are no prolonged negative side effects from caffeine? Try taking 500-700mg a day for 6 months and go get your heart rate and blood pressure tested faggot.

People have had heart attacks and anxiety attacks from the amount of caffeine found in store bought Pre-workouts so stop this nonsense about caffeine being perfectly healthy and safe.
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>>74305912
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>>74312903
>People have had heart attacks and anxiety attacks from the amount of caffeine found in store bought Pre-workouts so stop this nonsense about caffeine being perfectly healthy and safe.

As I noted, caffeine as a pure substance in dangerous, so any sort of powder mix that contains powdered caffeine is probably dangerous.

You're talking about drinking 8-10 cups of coffee a day and being worried about a moderate increase in heart rate and blood pressure. That's total nonsense. Nobody is doing that. In routine doses (a few cups of coffee/tea a day), caffeine is absolutely harmless, just like Marijuana.
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>>74303131
>>74303172
>/pol/ is one person
>being in favor of some freedoms means you have to also support others.
Autists pls.
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The main argument for its legalization is in its ability to relieve the pain and reduce the symptoms of HIV/AIDS, cancer patients undergoing chemotherapy and sufferers of glaucoma to name a few. However the pain relieving effects of marijuana only last a few hours and prescribing precise dosages is near impossible since the compound that causes pain relief, THC, and the amount found in different strains and even plants of the same variety isn't consistent and affects it everyone differently.

Furthermore a more thorough application of marijuana’s undeniable medical benefits is through capsules and tinctures of refined oils with known concentrations, this method of delivery undermines that to incorporate marijuana into medicine requires smoking of it to be legalized.

Smoking marijuana causes the exact same respiratory issues as smoking any other substances so while potheads are shouting "it's healthy for you" their lungs are filling up with tar.

Medicinal marijuana encourages a culture of self-prescription and lying. People say they smoke marijuana because "it helps me sleep," "it helps my anxiety" So? taking morphine helps when I'm in pain but I don't self-prescribe and seek it out illegally.

Using marijuana to treat mental health issues is retarded escapism, in what universe is smoking yourself stupid a form of therapy for being anxious or depressed? If these people are so concerned about treating their symptoms how come they never visit doctors? Psychologists? Sleep pathologists?

The NCBI found that Cannabis intoxication can lead to acute psychosis and a later development of psychosis, on top of that point if patients have existing mental health issues such as schizophrenia, anxiety and depression they can experience worsened symptoms with use

It's no different to trans people, they indulge themselves and avoid seeking professional help like the plague because they know what they are doing is not the answer. And before anyone wants to say
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>>74313594
>The main argument for its legalization is

liberty.
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Hemp protein is pretty good.
Hemp fiber is useful for a bunch of stuff.
A lot of emerging studies are showing that it does in fact kill cancer cells.
The government has no business telling sane people what to do with their own bodies.

Recreational drug use might be pretty degenerate, but whats even more degenerate is statism. Statists are scum.
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>>74313720
>Statists are scum.

Statism is a mental illness, 2bh.
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>>74313486
HOLY SHIT why are all tripfags such retards???
Is it the constant need of acknowledgement and insecurity that fries your brains?

>8-10 cups of coffee
>90mg of caffeine in 1 cup of coffee
>900mg of caffeine a day
>Recommended daily intake of caffeine 200mg

That is enough to cause problems.

http://www.healthambition.com/negative-effects-of-coffee/
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>>74312791

Oh and let's not forget, you also create MORE POTENT product, because it's easier to smuggle in smaller volumes that give the same effect. During alcohol prohibition less people drank beer and wine and more people drank spirits, because spirits were easier to smuggle.

Remember all those statistics about the marijuana of today being 40% more potent than the weed of the 60's? Thank Prohibition for that. Prohibition is also why we have dabbing.

Had weed gained in popularity and remained legal, instead you'd have lower THC weed that was bred in strains for flavor instead of how powerful of a high it gets, it'd frankly be like microbrewing or winemaking. People don't make wine and beer for fucking you up as fast as possible, they make drinks that they like the taste of that go down smooth.

Marijuana would be the same, and in states that have legalized it, that trend is starting to happen. People don't always want to smoke and get completely stoned out of their gourd. Sometimes, they'd like a lighter more flavorful smoke that just relaxes them a little after work.

As you push towards legalization, potency of consumer Marijuana will go down for the most part, quality will go up, tax revenue will go up.

https://www.good.is/articles/colorados-higher-taxes
http://money.cnn.com/2015/03/02/pf/taxes/colorado-pot-tax-refund/

Colorado raised so much money from weed that it has a budget surplus.

That means they can cut state income taxes for everyone else.
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>>74313997

I'm not surprised that you know nothing of the subject, since you've become one. Way to give up your guns in 1996, lad.
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>>74301811
It will greatly harm people with latent mental health problems.
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>>74313935

Looks like I triggered the CIDF alarm. Run along now to your cannabis forums where you can talk about your crazy edibles and vape setups.
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>>74314093

> Way to give up your guns in 1996, lad.

"Maybe if I change the topic I won't have to face empirical evidence"
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>>74304084
Hmm, has that been the case since the day you were born, or just since you took up smoking. Could it be... addiction? No, no; couldn't be. Pot's not addictive, right?
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>>74314167
Nice cop out and diversion tactic faggot, just admit you're wrong about coffee and caffeine

>Many people are very protective of their coffee and probably won’t like to hear all of these health problems associated with it.
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>>74301811
It should be legal. I don't even smoke anymore, it's just a lot of free tax money and it's not as dangerous as alcohol.
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>Men drink as much coffee as women; each consuming an average of 1.6 cups per day.

Oh, look at that. 144mg of Caffeine. Less than the daily recommended intake. With no deleterious effects whatsoever.

6:30AM roast it, bro FrEnCh PrEsS
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lmao look all those drunktards trying to shill against weed so they can rationalize their own degenerate habit.

Remember, every second you spend on shilling against weed is a second lost not shilling against alcohol, which makes you a degenerate alcoholic
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>>74314338
>>Many people are very protective of their coffee and probably won’t like to hear all of these health problems associated with it.

In normal doses, there are none. zero. zilch.
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>>74304084

What a surprise self prescribing marijuana instead of seeking professional help.

Don't be surprised when in 20 years you're still smoking to "feel like a normal human" because getting high is a relief, not a cure.
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>>74301811
If THC really was useful, it should be in pill form only. Smoking is a dangerous method of delivering the drug, and inefficient. It does not allow for precise dosage.
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>>74314109

As can alcohol.
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>>74314405
>In normal doses
Way to shift the goalpost of your argument, because mine was any drug can be abused including caffeine. Looks like you've been stumped buddy.

It's okay, I won't tell your other tripfag friends how much of a drooling retard you really are
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>>74314405
Its actually safe to metabolize more caffeine than that if you're physically active. Exercise enough and 400mg in a day isn't a big deal.

Lord knows every lifter loves their stimulants. Pre workout is the shit.
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>>74314109
I've actually lived three portions of my life under different effects of weed and alcohol.

Dependent on alcohol alone.
Dependent on weed alone.
Dependent on both.

Dependent on both was the worst, while the second worse was alcohol alone. Weed alone on the other hand, I found virtually harmless compared to the other two.
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>>74314617
>mine was any drug can be abused including caffeine.

Right, and that abuse amounts to ludicrous scenarios. Just like nobody is smoking 3 pounds of weed a day or whatever the stat is. It's absolute hogwash.
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>>74314647
I agree with this and this is true, but if you're taking 6 scoops of Jack3d before you hit them gym, your heart is finna explode in your fucking chest.
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>>74313571
>/pol/ is one person

thats why I said "hivemind" it is a very real thing here

>being in favor of some freedoms means you have to also support others.

there is objectively no reason that a free man shouldn't be able to smoke marijuana in his own damn home
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>>74314647
>Its actually safe to metabolize more caffeine than that if you're physically active. Exercise enough and 400mg in a day isn't a big deal.

Caffeine is unsafe in any amount. I haven't used any caffeine in 5 years, I feel just fine and don't need it.
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>>74314787
Never go full Rich Piana.
Never.
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>>74314766
I remember one time when I drank enough energy drink to be over 1.5 grams of pure caffeine.

That was not a fun night. I walked 6 miles, came home and thought my heart was going to explode.
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>>74314478
I agree.

>>74314671
Weed and someone with bipolar or other similar issues would be harmed.
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>>74314766
>People die from abusing caffeine

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/17/business/a-soldiers-parents-take-aim-at-gnc-and-a-supplement-maker.html?_r=0

Complete Hogwash, those marijuana cigarettes are super harmful to your health!
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>>74314870
well according to this guy
>>74314766
You can do that and not have any negative effects
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>>74314910
I wasn't saying it was harmless, I meant comparatively.
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>>74314930
>>People die from abusing caffeine

Sure, like I said, it's dangerous in its pure, powdered form. Pure THC has a pretty low LD50, too.
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>>74313594

actually the better compound for medicinal properties in Marijuana is Cannabidiol.
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>>74304337
>http://www.apa.org/monitor/2015/11/marijuana-brain.aspx
american PSYCHOLOGICAL assocation???

psychology is agenda driven pseudoscience.

it is literally witch doctoring.

this shit is sponsored by the same govt shills who told us "Drugs R Bad M'Kay" while denying their own scientific studies that determined that cannabis was HARMLESS

the same clowns who claimed cigarettes are just as addictive as heroin, but quitting smoking is not terribly difficult (personal experience), while quitting heroin cold turkey can KILL YOU.

the same faggots who told us a few sand niggers in conjunction with a cave dwelling hermit did 9/11 when they knew all along the saudi govt was behind it.

when habitual liars tell you some wacky ass shit, you should ask yourself if they might be lying again.
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>>74302374
second post best post
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>>74302319
fpbh
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>>74315152
You realize your body will metabolize 90mg or pure caffeine the same way it will metabolize 90mg of caffeine in a cup of coffee right?

If you answer this incorrectly, you are truly a lost cause.
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Let this be your lesson, folks. Dude weedisms are no longer sufficient arguments. Indeed, they aren't even arguments to begin with!

Come back with something predicated on natural rights and liberty, and it might be worth reading.
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>>74301811

Alcohol probably shouldn't be either. I can't control my use and it ends bad. Not saying this will be the case for all, but the fact that it is A case at ALL should be cause for discussion.
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>>74304084
Thanks for proving him right
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I hate this anti-weed faggots, i hope you know that Hitler put our soldiers on Meth? Everything that can improve the mind, can cure sicknesses, can help to cope with life, should be legal, everything should be legal.

If humans can't controll themselves we are proven to be degenerate animals and should use drugs til we destroy our selves. Because we are not worthy of this life, when we can't even controll our urges.

Legalize it, at least for sick persons.
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Smoking anything is not good for you, even smoking cock.
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>>74315310
>You realize your body will metabolize 90mg or pure caffeine the same way it will metabolize 90mg of caffeine in a cup of coffee right?

A pound is a pound is a pound. The primary difference is that you're not going to shotgun a carafe of coffee while your buds are cheering you on. A mere spoonful of pure caffeine or THC is enough to kill you.

The fineness of that line when dealing with pure substances is the risk.
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>>74315323
Speaking from a personal experience standpoint, weed is far less dangerous then alcohol.

Weed will just make you lazy, hungry, and stupid. Alcohol on the other hand can completely destroy most of your organs through excessive use.

I don't know how I didn't get liver damage from drinking half a handle of whiskey a day.
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>>74315029
Hes just silly.
People can give themselves mild heart palpitations from taking fairly low doses. Not everyone handles it the same way.

Like everything in life, you need a deal of personal responsibility, and moderation. I've got no problem drinking 300mg of caffeine in the morning and feeling like a god in the gym, but I wouldn't ever tell some random person that its a safe dose for them to take instantly and for a long period of time.
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>>74303563
>citation needed
Common sense.
I don't need a citation to know that weed impairs your ability to think any more than I need one to tell me fire is hot.
>inb4 booze/cigs
Those are stupid too, but there's no sub-culture built up around them that promotes laziness.
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I live in Oregon and all it means is that cops have more time/resources to deal with real crime and schools get extra funding from the taxes off of it.

I don't smoke, but it's retarded that there's places that still have it illegal.
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>>74315524
>A spoonful of THC will kill you

lol, wanna try again??

http://www.westword.com/news/dear-stoner-how-much-thc-equals-a-lethal-dose-5124769
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>>74312274
I had sex with this girl in a dream last night.
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>>74301811
if weed becomes legal, it will be taxed as well.
means more money for corrupt politicians to pocket.
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>>74314477

they tried pure THC in pill form, it turned out to not be a good idea. The pill was called Marinol, it was a synthesized form of THC. The dose was really high and when you gave it to cancer patients they weren't just high they were UNCOMFORTABLY stoned. Like they were so wasted they were hallucinating, and they didn't want to be.

A big part of the reason is because THC by itself is a mild hallucinogen. Normally when people smoke pot the other cannibinoids modulate the effect of the THC. Low CBD high THC strains cause more anxiety and "freaking out" than strains with higher CBD concentrations.

THC by itself has fewer medical applications too. It stimulates appetite which is good for chemo/AIDS patients, it lowers intraocular pressure for Glaucoma, but it's pain relief is really mild. CBD on the other hand is a very powerful antiinflammatory, anti-emitic, and anti-spasmodic, it has a much wider range of clinical applications.

But until governments reschedule it so that it can be researched more and prescribed, you won't get the accurate dosages that you need.
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>>74315725

Did I stutter? 53 grams is nothing.
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>>74315461
btw, some scientist believe that we got that smart because of FUCKING MUSHROOMS we ate.

Imagine an monkey, eating a magic mushroom out of the forest.

Suddenly he get's vision, ideas, imagination.

He starts building tools on his trip.

Trip ends, he still remembered it.

He shows it the other apes, apes recreate the tools.

Boom - humans are created.

Regulations always slow down the Evolution of the mind.

Everything should be legal that nature gives us.
It can literally give us an step forwards in the evoultion of mind, the universe created this plants, these receptors in our brain, just so we can use it.

It's all an beautiful cycle, just admit it anti drug faggots.
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>>74314671

Dependency on anything is bad really, caffeine dependency is well, just socially accepted, and nicotine to an extent, but any more than that is problematic.

I'm all for people having a drink or two to unwind with dinner. Maybe a little bit more for celebratory purposes on infrequent occasions, holidays, birthdays, weddings, stuff like that.

But dependency on alcohol? Have some self restraint and don't get to that point.

Weed same thing.. a little bit once or twice a week, okay, fine.

Every day? dude seriously get a grip on yourself.

Either way I think you should be making that decision and not the government.
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>>74315995
>He thinks 53 grams of a powdered substance can fit...INTO A SPOON

You are hands down the stupidest person I have ever seen post on this site, not joking not shitposting.

I genuinely hope you are just trolling my friend because if not, you are very unintelligent
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>>74301811
Because it keeps pot cool.
Drugs are supposed to be rebellious and cool, not endorsed by the government you queer.
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>>74316134
>Suddenly he get's vision, ideas, imagination.
>He starts building tools on his trip.
>Trip ends, he still remembered it.
>He shows it the other apes, apes recreate the tools.
>Boom - humans are created.

This is what I was talking about when I mentioned dude weedisms. This is a dude mushroomism, but still.

God damn.
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>>74316216
Moderation isn't something all of us can practice. Some of us are all or nothing type of guys.

Most people don't understand this, because they don't have to deal with it. I'm 100% sober now because I have to be, or else.
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>>74316286

Did you not look at the spoon I posted?
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>>74315864
>The pill was called Marinol, it was a synthesized form of THC. The dose was really high and when you gave it to cancer patients they weren't just high they were UNCOMFORTABLY stoned

Citation on this? I can't find any of this in the user reviews from people who actually took it.

They didn't like it because it was ONLY THC, which has less therapeutic value on it's own compared to THC + CBD. There's also a list of Flavonoids, Terpenes & Terpenoids that weren't in it as well, which all have some therapeutic effect as well.

>From a general therapeutic perspective THC and CBD have important effects on one another when ingested together. When present along with THC, CBD prolongs the effects of THC-therapy by inhibiting the breakdown process of THC in our liver. If the THC breakdown is inhibited, its effects persist longer. When appreciable amounts of CBD (>4% CBD by weight for flowers) are ingested along with THC, the CBD may reduce the psychoactivity many patients would normally experience from the THC present. Exciting studies that are currently being conducted at California Pacific Medical Center in San Francisco are demonstrating that specific amounts of THC and CBD injected into breast and brain tumors can eliminate those tumors completely, in 30 days.
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>>74316368
Please just stop...you're shifting the goalpost of your arguments so much I can't even keep track anymore
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>>74301811
/pol/ is full of statists and loves when daddy government dictates private life.
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>>74316286
it is a pretty big spoon tho
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>>74316512
He googled "Picture of big spoon" So he could turn his

>A spoonfull of THC can kill you

argument into a joke because the fact that he knows he was wrong is going to keep him up tonight.
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>>74316477

I know who you are now, since you posted this same image yesterday! Funny that you deny being a pothead when yesterday you had no problem admitting it.

inb4
>i'm somebody else!

I checked the fucking filename.
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I expect this kind of behavior from Australians but you should be ashamed of yourself.
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>>74316730
you kill more brain cells than weed does
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>>74316317
People used drugs for all eternity, incense used in ancient greece temples where "oracles" told the future, were heavenly burned and breathed in, creating an mass trance like state, where people brainstormed.

Other example are tribes, from which we also descended, using mushrooms, weed, mixtures for rituals, seeing new things they couldn't possibly invent with their noisy mind all the time, most of the geniuses of our time told us that they got their ideas in moments of stillness, that's the same, they were alone, full inside their mind, creating things in another world, what is their mind.

people that always live in the outside, never get this, that's why jews don't want weed, mushrooms, etc to be legalised, they are afraid that we could see through their lies.
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>>74316730
This is just getting sad tb.h family
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>>74301811
There's physical and mental benefits, with no fatal side effects.

So, if you're going to make an argument against Medicinal Marijuana, you might as well apply it to any medicine. The catch is, Marijuana isn't going to stop your heart or cause your kidneys to fail.

I find it odd that you have a hard time grasping this- unless, it is your intention to shitpost.

Shitpost away, anon.
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>>74316788
Australians and Canadians shitpost more per capita, but the most shitposting in total award goes to the USA. That's because there's simply more of you than anyone else.
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I don't have a problem with the drug itself. It's the type of people who do weed. I only had 1 experience through a "friend" who would smoke it all the time. All he would do is talk about weed, his car smelled like weed, he would boast about being high, get his "munchies" and we always needed to stop someplace to feed him. Seriously annoying. Talking to him was like talking to someone mid conversation while they looked at their phone and never retained the information i gave
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>>74316890

I was wrong.
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>>74301811
Let me google that for you.

https://scholar.google.ca/scholar?hl=en&q=cannabis+negative&btnG=&as_sdt=1%2C5&as_sdtp=
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>>74316928
/pol/ in a nutshell.

>It's the type of people who do weed
>I only had 1 experience
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>>74316410

Anecdotal but when I was taking care of patients in an oncology ward who had marinol for restoring their appetite they always said it made them feel way too wasted and they didn't like it.
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>>74316976
Holy shit

Well this is a first I dont know how to respond to somebody admitting they were wrong on /pol/ lol
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>>74317064
one firsthand experience. many only would act the same way

>dude i dont know why im doing this, im too high for this shit

idgaf
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>>74301811

If it was made legal the private prison industry would lose a lot of revenue and likely jobs for hard working Americans.
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>>74315995

dude you could just, kill someone with that spoon. That's a bludgeoning weapon right there.
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>>74317248

Good, private prison "industry" should go the way of the dodo.
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>>74317134

To be fair, though, the difference in LD50 between pure THC and Caffeine is only about 28-32 grams. That's not exactly a lot.

That said, if you drink two cups of coffee a day and smoke two joints, you'll probably be just fine.

Have some high test as a parting gift.
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>>74317568
Thanks friendo

You're a big guy to admit you were wrong
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>>74301811
For the same reason faggotry and bronies should be illegal.

The people/culture that surrounds it is pure refined cancer and should be forced to stick to the shadows.

How fucking boring must a person be if dude weed lamo is the most interesting thing they have to define themselves by.
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>>74317693
>You're a big guy to admit you were wrong

For you.
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>>74301811
I support the legalisation of all drugs, but their consumption/being impaired in public should be illegal and face heavy criminal charges. Public healthcare should also be absolved of their duty of care when it comes to people fucked up on drugs. If you want to take the risk you had best get private health cover/insurance.

Keep it to yourself in your own home ffs.
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>>74301811
NBC did an investigation a week or two ago and found that there's almost a 50% increase in weed-related traffic accidents in states where weed is legalized. Traffic fatalities related to weed is also up nearly 50%.

This is NBC, liberal-leaning pot-supporters who typically only show stories touting benefits of weed.
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>>74317987
>Public healthcare should also be absolved of their duty of care when it comes to people fucked up on drugs.

Public healthcare shouldn't exist in the first place.
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>>74312069
I am a 6'4" cook at Wendys with 9" dick 2 inch in radius.

I also make 160k a year
Did I also mention I am perfect?
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>>74318176
Those studies are likely bullshit anti-weed propaganda supported by scientific and government groups with an agenda. Usually those high people are also on other drugs like alcohol or a prescription. I guess they conveniently left that part out.
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>>74318588

One spoonful of pure THC will make you crash your car.
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>>74318176

a large part of that is because those are the states that actually have guidelines for detecting stoned driving, and can separate it from other forms of DUI.

Other states do not have any real tests for DUI for marijuana.

In states that have legalized it they have kits that swab the inside of the mouth and they can detect whether or not the driver is actively stoned on pot within a minute or two.

In states that have not legalized it, they don't even have established limits for stoned driving.
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>>74318588
Don't be stupid, man. This is data that anyone can collect.

It's also common sense that if you make a brain-altering substance legal, then more people are likely to have it, and more people are likely to drive under its influence. To say there would be no increase would be absolute bullshit.

You can question the numbers if you want, but the fact remains that legalization is literally killing innocent people.
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>>74318842
There is literally no test that can accurately determined if you're high on pot, which was also part of the same story.
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>>74318650
This we can agree on haha
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>>74318854

Left wing studies are always bias and fabricated.

Right wing studies are all based in fact and have the most robust scientific method.
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>>74318231
I would rather live in a productive nation where commonly preventable diseases do not kill/damage the quality of labour and where the poor do not act as an easily preventable vector for disease propagation through a population. Public healthcare should provide a minimum level of care that private must improve upon to remain viable.
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>>74301811
i don't think potheads are good at resisting the invasion of islam. They probably won't care since mudshits allow marijuana. It's not a coincidence that Trucuck, my prime minister, suggested we legalise pot, he wants the Halal Cock so badly it's disgusting.
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>>74319035
Left-wing studies would prove that pot is like the breath of an angel and does no harm. Right-wing studies would prove that pot killed your mother.
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>>74301811
Black people sell it to seduce white women and cuck white men.
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>>74319104
>I would rather live in a productive nation where commonly preventable diseases do not kill/damage the quality of labour and where the poor do not act as an easily preventable vector for disease propagation through a population.

Those things are generally not an issue in the US, despite the fact that we had private healthcare for all those years before Obama niggered everything up with the ACA, thereby making traditional plans considerably more expensive.
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>>74304952
So what? This is literally:
>B-But timmy hit her and no one said anything!1
Mentality
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>>74301811
It makes teenagers grow up and realize they're not good at anything. They spent all the time our forefathers spent honing skills smoking weed, watching spongebob, and shitposting on 4chan about pot instead.
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>>74319035
I'd normally agree with you but I don't think you mean right wing studies. Most right wingers demonize the shit out of weed.

>>74318854
>point 1

People can fudge numbers in studies all the time. Studies on drugs usually have an agenda against them

>point 2

No, just look at other places where drugs are legalized like Portugal.

>point 3
>just because a few innocent people die due to a lack of self control, then mind altering substances should be illegal so nobody can experience liberty

Okay
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>>74301811
It is highly addictive and makes it users paranoid.
I got off that garbage and took off the chain it had on my neck, you should too.
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>>74319279
>medicaid did/does not exist
>Obama made a meaningful change

Obamacare made a minimal impact on the structure of US healthcare. You are still getting jewed as hard as before, don't worry, you are still a good goy.

When people have the biological pressures of pain or survival on them they are not rational decision makers (if they ever are) and the market mechanism breaks down. Without a baseline of minimum care private providers have a flame they can hold people against until they cough up whatever shekels are demanded.
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>>74319378
You can't compare Portugal or any other country to America. It's like gun and alcohol deaths. We have more, because we have more cars, we have more roads, we have more people, and we have a different ratio of people who would abuse drugs. It's apples and oranges.

You're just looking for conspiracy where there is none. It's like cellphones; cellphone companies want to sell phones, they control a huge industry and links to politics, but we still know they cause tons of deaths. There's no conspiracy to hide it. Pot is nowhere near on the same level as phones.
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>>74319594
>When people have the biological pressures of pain or survival on them they are not rational decision makers (if they ever are) and the market mechanism breaks down.

This is really immaterial because we also have guns. If people turn to crime to support their healthcare habit, we'll just shoot them in the act.

Pretty simple stuff.
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>>74301811
It should be illegal because being relaxed and having fun is one of the most immoral things you can do. It's worse than murdering unborn babies!
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>>74319356
Good thing it would be 21+ and weed is common enough on the streets that teens can find it now
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>>74302319
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>>74319632
We can totally compare other countries. The majority of people in Portugal didn't go nuts, and drug use decreased. This was ALL drugs, not just Marijuana. Overall only a small cluster percentage of people will end up doing what you'd suggest and they have their own problems that are not just from drug use.

>That second paragraph

I think not using drugs has fried your brain, because that shit made no sense.
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The increase in the number of traffic accidents and crime has negated the tax benefits collected from selling it, just as naysayers predicted.

Pot is causing a net deficit on state budgets. It won't be legal long, because money is all that matters to politicians.
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>>74303131
>freedom
>personal responsibilitie
Both degenerate concepts
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>>74320459
You're smoking too much dude, there's nothing complicated there. Cellphones cause more deaths than pot, and cellphones is a much more profitable industry. If people were capable, or even willing, to carry out conspiracies to hide traffic accidents and fatalities, then that would be the place you'd see it. But it doesn't, because we see stories about distracted drivers on a regular basis.

Pot matters far less, there's far less money or social benefit involved. In other words, literally nobody cares enough to skew traffic statistics, especially when potheads are going to smoke no matter what those numbers say, just like stupid cellphone users will still drive and text.
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I've been diagnosed with severe depression and all the anti-depressants I was prescribed were orders of magnitude worst than weed. The side effects, the withdrawals (oh god the fucking withdrawals), and the mind-numbingly boring mundane feeling of everyday life. These so called anti-depressants spiraled my depression out of control and I had to use weed to combat the physical and psychological withdrawals I was having from the toxic shit my doctors prescribed. Don't fall for the anti-depressant meme. Doctors are no different than kikes. I used weed to wean off the other garbage and now it's been 6 weeks since I've been completely drug-free (including alcohol and caffeine). I have never felt any better. Fuck ANYBODY that says that weed has absolutely no medicinal use whatsoever. Y'all have been indoctrinated with propaganda bullshit.
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>>74301811
Not an argument. But if weed was legal I would greenhouse that shit and start a private corporation. I wouldn't dream of using that stuff, but starting a farm for it would be super fun.
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>>74320464
studies show that cars moving at 5mph cause less accidents and damage.
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Nigger please
http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/health-news/cannabis-arteritis-first-australian-diagnosed-marijuana-related-disease-loss-limb-amputation-a7020251.html
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>>74313163
10/10 repost
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>>74307723
>by far more addictive
you really underplay just how addictive cocaine is, it is the first thought on your mind when you wake up and the last once you finally close your eyes and pass out.
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>>74318918

there's a rapid assay kit that is a swab from the mouth, police can use it on the scene.
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>>74322076

well, yeah, no shit. Cocaine is so addictive that rats in laboratory studies will keep hitting the cocaine dispensing button until they die, and they'll choose it over food or water.
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>>74320629
Only to someone too dumb to take care of themselves, straight edge Sam.
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>>74304333
you fucking retard, the whole reason why the pothead pseudoscience has been allowed to flourish (the ALL pot cures cancer and every other disease with 0 side effects argument) is because it's schedule 1. Meaning that it's nearly impossible to get any REAL research done. Which can only be solved by re-scheduling, and legalizing. Believe me, all dumb stoners are just gonna move to heroin and die off when weed gets legalized, they're counterculture faggots who subconsciously want to die.
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>>74323281
sometimes during my day I'll smell cocaine out of nowhere. I'll know its not really cocaine but it sends shivers down my spine and ill crave it for hours.
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I'm just an edgelord pot fan.

I like it being illegal.

>Muh "feels like i'm a badass" feels
>inb4 "durr u kno u R degenerate!"

I don't drink. Everybody's got a gri-gri.
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>>74323874
Not ALL of them, but you may be right.

Once weed is legalised, most of them will turn to psychedelics, cocaine, or opiates.
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>>74323874
You are a moronic jizzrag.
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I love weed
it's better than tobacco
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Fault my logic.

Lets say weed is bad for you. Why would you give a fuck what nextdoor neighbor Joe does to his body? Let him smoke his brains out and fry his brain cells. why does it concern YOU?
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>>74322076
>>74323281
>>74323970
Cocaine really doesn't seem like that big a deal, or else nearly every celebrity and doctor would be acting like psycho lab rats due to cocaine use. Maybe it's just a small recent age of the population that feel this into it.
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>>74304333
if marijuana is legalized it will lead to more regulations - which helps to prevent things like addictions or negative side effects
it's a victimless crime
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>>74324361
Because the government will come up with "secondhand weed" as a justification to control its use just like they made up "secondhand smoke" tbqo.
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>>74324410
The difference is that they have the money to keep their noses white, its the days or weeks without it that drive the addict crazy. imagine being super thirsty like you ate pretzels after working out, but there isn't any water now imagine you still have no water for 4 days. That thirst is comparable to the craving for cocaine after a day without it.
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>>74320718
It's a false analogy. Cellphones don't have the same stigma and government agendas attached to it like weed does. It's been hunted for decades due to guys like Alsinger and competing paper industries trying to drown it in pseudoscientific "dangers".
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>>74324723
Sounds like genetic addiction as opposed to what cocaine actually does to the average human. Not everyone falls to the chains of alcohol, only alcoholics with particular genes or poor self control do.

Additionally if they kept their noses white that much then it also inavertedly proves that cocaine isn't as medically/physically/mentally as harmful as the government would like people to believe.
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>>74324361
because people are too dumb to make their own decisions so the state must intervene to make the choice for them. But only about weed, in things like guns, wages, taxes, welfare, private property, free speech and the market people are geniuses so they can make their own decisions

t. conservative
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>>74324361
Because it makes people stupid and stupid people do stupid shit.
Same reason no one wants an alchoholic as a neighbor because drunks do stupid shit because driniking makes you stupid
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>>74301811
Reckless driving will double.
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>>74324959
true, it could just be my genes. The only thing weird about that though is that alcohol to me is just meh, and I don't really get hooked to any pills I abuse. FUCKING COKE THO honestly if I had to choose between fucking any women in the world or a gram of coke im taking coke hands down.
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>>74320349
I don't understand how any of that is a counter-argument. Weed will still be common on the streets, in the same and perhaps a bigger way than alcohol is. Teenagers can get a hold of anything, no amount of laws will change that.

I don't agree that pot should remain illegal, but you asked us to give you reasons why it should. Promoting personal responsibility is always more worthwhile than passing a frivolous law that limits a persons' freedom, and the personally responsible thing to do is not smoke weed because it makes you a dipshit.
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>>74324149
Good points! So your argument is to keep cannabis illegal, making research impossible, keeping the actual benefits and risks hidden from the public... so we can allow retards to continue to think smoking pesticide saturated flower 24/7 is healthy.
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>>74302319

so true
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>>74324523
Second hand smoke isn't a myth. It may not be that bad for you but If you are not a smoker you shouldn't have to smell it. Consider it etiquette

>>74325080
If you consider the distribution of intelligence amongst populace in general, most people have ape-tier intelligence. I like the forces of natural selection.

>>74325096
Bad neighborhood is considered negative externality and helps to drive down the cost of the neighborhood. Move to a different neighborhood where people like alcoholics and drug abusers cant afford.
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Because alcohol companies might lose profit
Because crime statistics may skew racially
Because cotton industry might seem illogical
Because baby boomers might notice extra scepticism against the indoctrination they force onto younger peoples.
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>>74326851
>Second hand smoke isn't a myth.

It's a nonexistent health risk that has been deemed a health risk by the U.S. Government and sadly in other places that are adequately informed about smoking as well, like Japan.

>It may not be that bad for you but If you are not a smoker you shouldn't have to smell it. Consider it etiquette

So just because something smells people should demand that others not do it in public in the name of etiquette?
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>>74327173
Baby boomers love weed though.
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>>74327250
yeah but only THEY get to smoke it
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>>74326851
>Second hand smoke isn't a myth. It may not be that bad for you but If you are not a smoker you shouldn't have to smell it. Consider it etiquette

Smelling it isn't the same as someone blowing bong rips in your face you know.
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>>74304337

no shit

go to any stoners forum and look at the way they type
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>>74327206
you need to be gassed
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>>74327250
Only when they become diagnosed with cancer.

Suddenly it changes from "you're an acrid smelling degenerate" to "muh terminal illness, please Mr Coppa, don't arrest me!"

Australia does have common law medical marijuana, but it's common law meaning all it means is that they won't be prosecuted. Someone in the line still has to break the law to get these decrepit foggies their marijuana to make their chemo bearable.

Suddenly, when marijuana demonstrates a use for them, they're fine with it, but someone treating sleeping disorders, emotional instability, eating disorders, cerebral palsy and epilepsy? Absolutely unconscionable!

They literally treat marijuana like morphine instead of caffeine, which is by and far a better comparison.
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>>74315650
>there's no sub-culture built up around (alcohol) that promotes laziness
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You're all degenerate. Weed is the drug of lazy hippie morons.
ADHD drugs are the real drugs of champions.
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>>74327369
Buy one of these and your problem is solved.
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>>74328081
I'm medically underweight and have what's essentially bipolar with a decent control over manic periods. Marijuana helps keep my appetite so I can put on weight and allows me to control the depressive periods as well as my manic periods (because, I've found, meditation doesn't help depression, just manic). I noticeably lose weight when I run out of money and can no longer afford weed, which usually results in contacts that get stale, meaning even if I gained money I wouldn't be able to pick up weed anymore.

Maybe I am a hippy, or maybe I'm just desperate for a greater control over the imbalanced chemicals in my body.

Legal, recreational marijuana (so I don't have to argue with my baby boomer doctor that I actually do benefit) would at least partially solve some of my problems. I'm sick of dealing with dishonest dealers who see nothing wrong with price manipulation and underweighing, especially when they're convinced their client only has one dealer. Expecting me to deal with them is a form of injustice.

>>74328035
Alcohol is the laziest drug
>lol I'm hungover
>time to call in sick for work
As opposed to
>I spent all last night smoking and had bad quality sleep as a result
>probably have a slower day at work
At least the stoner is still working.
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>>74329711
>i'm unhealthy physically and mentally ill
>i am addicted to marijuana
>i need it or i will lose control
Or in other words, you're a degenerate. Weed is degenerate.
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>>74329881
no u
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>>74329711
>I'm medically underweight and have what's essentially bipolar with a decent control over manic periods
>I'm a walking talking defect
We don't need to legalize narcotics just to help human jetsam float through life.

The only drug you need is euthanasia.
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>>74327857
with what? Secondhand smoke? Too bad it won't kill me, anon.
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