Iberia thread parte dois. Continued from >>73722529
>>73732284
>filly
>>73732284
>>73732284
Barcelona is one of the if not the most beautiful city I've ever seen. Only the people that inhabit it put it to shame.
>>73732641
Haven't been. The only place in Spain I've gone to is Santiago de Compostela.
>>73732284
ocasional reminder that germans or whoever tribe is living there at any time of history are subhumans and always destroy europe
also fifth for Baetica is best province
Tarraconensis master race reporting in
>>73732284
>Byzantine empire in Spain
wot? some /his/fag can explain
>>73732755
I don't get it. Could you explain the pic? Seems like WE WUZ ROMANZ
>>73732755
I've been there! Took my bicycle and reconned the hinterland as well. Siurana, Prades and Poblet are beatiful
>>73732864
Tarragona has a nice Roman theatre.
Moet je eens stoppen als je gaat zuipen in Salou
>>73732864
It's just a reenactment holiday. If you are wondering, nobody seriously believes WE WUZ ROMANZ
>>73732864
the city has a very rich roman heritage, nothing bad with advertising it
>>73732732
>ocasional reminder that germans or whoever tribe is living there at any time of history are subhumans and always destroy europe
Agreed.
>germanics invade
>rome sends more germanics to subdue the invading germanics
>set up a handful of shitty kingdoms
>entire history is characterised by regicide, fratricide, and civil war to the point that such things become known as the morbus gothorum
>invite moors into iberia as mercenaries in another coup
>moors stay and germanicucks convert to islam en masse
Being a cuck must be genetic or something.
>>73732846
not /his/ fag but whatever
they tried to take back the roman empire, and got to retake southern spai for some time
>>73732755
>literally the barbaric region out of the 3
>>73732284
Reminder to everyone that is new to the post:
It says:
-Why are all these people bald? Do they have cancer?
-I wish.
>>73732628
woah
>>73733169
nobody takes El Jueves seriously, it's a meme tabloid with occasionally decent satire
>>73732846
This is post roman fall, dumbass. The eastern Roman Empire integrated some of the western empire's outposts and held southern spain for a while until I think the Vandals came.
>>73733169
The mother looks brainwashed as fuck
>>73732284
Are young Spaniards that different from young Portuguese? There are almost no SJWs in Portugal (at least, yet). People find Trump a buffoon, they don't bitch about him, are not very religious but aren't very keen on sacrificing themselves to help muslims. We just don't care.
>>73733380
They're more secularist from what I've seen. At worst, Portuguese youth are indifferent about Catholicism. A lot of young Spaniards seem virulently anti-Catholic for whatever reason.
>>73733380
depends on where you are, countryside Spain is quite safe from SJW and shit, and then there's the SJW havens like Barcelona and Madrid
>>73732628
I'm always impressed with this part of your history. It's probably the single, most epic, most impressive military feat in history. Yet it's always somehow kept under hush because >muh genocide
>>73732284
Question about Galicia.
When were the movements to have Galicia become part of Portugal strongest? Did a lot of Portuguese or Galicians feel strongly about the issue in the 19th Century, or in the first half of the 20th?
>>73733380
pretty similar expect the Madrid and Barcelona area
>>73733933
>A lot of young Spaniards seem virulently anti-Catholic for whatever reason
never seen this at all
Puta merda ostia me cajo en 4chan e a no moot do carallo.
Por que collóns teño que ter esta puta bandeira de merda, así arda españa me cajo en dios.
Viva Jalisia e vivan as Rías Baixas ostia maricóns!
>>73732628
looking at the background makes your brain all fucked up
>>73734896
you are not fooling anybody Paco
>portuguese
>misspelt caralho
>>73734788
Galicia was never really on the verge of becoming part of Portugal. The County of Portucale was at times part of the Galician partrimony, or the Leonese, or the Asturian, not the reverse. Frankly, it seems more likely to me that there is a stronger consciousness of the relationship between (especially northern) Portuguese and Galicians today than there was a century or two ago.
>>73734856
Just my experience. Both in person and on the internet.
>>73734896
E ti de quén ves sendo?
>>73734896
0/10
pesimo falseflagging
>>73733380
Where in Portugal are you from?
Here in Lisbon shit's crawling with feminists, gays, kebabs and niggers. Gays, I have personally no problems with, idgaf. They open nice bars and coffeeshops and gay shit like that where I go when I want to get away from all the fucking niggers and kebabs.
Feminists are just annoying. But they've taken over. My girlfriend who is a very traditional and sweet girl tells me she "feels guilt because she should agree with feminists but she doesn't".
The worst problem in Portugal is being in the right has a very bad stigma associated while Communists have carte blanche to do or say whatever the fuck.
And then there's the nigger problem. One can't have a beer at night without being accosted by them. Since the Angolans came with money they think they're big shit and started getting friskier. My sister and girlfriend have reported several times when they feared they were being raped or murdered, once even 4 niggers in the subway took out their cocks and started playing with them and kept her from getting out until she was saved by 2 other black gentlemen. At least nowadays there's more and more people being openly racist. Even people who used to be super progressive like my gf or sister.
>vid sort of related:
https://youtu.be/JVezwvOLi1c
>>73734896
Galicia was, is, and will always be more patriotic towards Spain than most of Spain.
>>73735278
could you tell me any example of that anti-catholicism?
I'm curious now
>>73733169
>dat short-haired skinhead qt
fug
>>73735454
especially 'cos it's a shitty country that would be bankrupt without Madrid
>>73735579
>it's a shitty country
They wish ''we'' were.
>>73735271
Wew lad, but that's how you spell it in Galician. Typical castellano ignoring the richness of the country he lives in.
>>73735293
Eu son da comarca do Barbansa, e ti rapás?
>>73735454
Sadly true.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOrbeAN30-4
>>73735365
the only good part is that the people ain't sjw enough yet to like niggers, gypsies or immigrants
The treaty of Tordesillas was never revoked. By divine and secular right we, Portugal and Spain still have the exclusive dominion over all seas and can use all those lands and people that we find.
>>73734856
>never seen this at all
Do you ever leave your basement?
>>73735471
A few years ago I was in Evora at the Capela dos Ossos. There were some Spanish tourists there from the University of Valladolid that I bumped into and started speaking with. They were pretty friendly but they kept going on about how awful and morbid the ossuary was, saying things like "Catholicism is all about death" and that the "Church kept Spaniards and Portuguese ignorant for centuries" and other such nonsense. When they asked me what brought me to Portugal and I told them that I was on pilgrimage to Fatima and Santiago de Compostela they kept saying things like "Why do you think God exists? It is only a story." (the connotation being that it's a fairy tale)
I didn't think much of that in itself because that was only three people. But since that time I've had plenty of discussions with Spaniards about Catholicism and I could probably count on one hand the number of Spanish faithful I've encountered.
>>73736423
Interesting, how old are you?
>>73736652
28 now. This was back around 2009.
>>73736423
I'm from Lisbon and I have not ever met a single person born here who even believed in god, though obviously I don't speak with all of them about those matters. In the north of the country things are different though. It's a huge cultural clash when you meet a young person who actually goes to church, but there's no resentment, it's just seen as something goofy.
>>73737241
In Lisbon, a lot of people are catholic and go to church if you hang around the upper-middle class who studies/studied in private schools.
>>73737241
I admit I may have a false impression of how faithful the Portuguese are because most of my interaction is with the Portuguese here in Canada. A great many are devout Catholics.
>>73733380
>There are almost no SJWs in Portugal (at least, yet)
I wouldnt be so sure anon.
Our generation (I'm guessing you're millenial?) is raised under completely global influences, so the SJWism is just as intrinsic to some groups.
I guess its just not present in the humanities, as the teachers are generally quite "classical" still.
>>73737430
I went to Catholic prvate school. After the age of 14 none of them believed in Santa Claus, I mean Jesus, anymore. But maybe I'm just lucky.
>>73737457
well, thats bound to offer a very biased notion.
Immigrants are wholly different from people living here. They were from poorer origins, and usually hailed from rural areas. So its perfectly normal that you dont find your typical cosmopolitan worldview
>>73737828
I only know a handful of them and they are not very vocal about it.
>>73737917
I doubt that. I know many people who went to catholic private schools and they are catholic, no doubt. There is even a christian club in my university.
>>73732641
Actually Hispania was a really important and beloved province. This is something that happens with everyone that tried to conquest us, specially with the south of Spain. Our world heritage has more recognition with roman legacy than with memelandalus. Is not like we wuz romans, but the greco-roman culture is very important here. The iberians accepted very well the roman culture, like the "Betica" province, a senatorial province. Iberians are our people, but culturally speaking our heritage is roman.
>>73737994
That's true. Even the second and third generations retain their faith, though, which is quite remarkable given that they are being raised in a moral wasteland.
>>73738181
Ahah, christians... that's goofy.
Perhaps there's more than I'm aware of. All of my acquaintances are either in engineering, sciences or are liberal hipsters of some variation.
>>73735579
>especially 'cos it's a shitty country
>see flag
t. Alberto Barbossa
>>73736652
Tbqh I've grown up in an anti-catholic environment, myself being one in the past too. We would insult other people and argue with them if they believed in god and as >>73737241 said, it was very, very rare to meet a young christian person. That is, in the environment I've grown up.
While half of my family are non-believers, the other half is absolutely religious and follow Opus Dei and all that jazz. My cousins are definitely catholic and so are their friends, so this led me to think that believers just hang out with other believers. Also these people are generally more respectful and don't go around bragging about their beliefs, contrary to some atheists.
What I mean is that people tend to mix with others of their liking and divide instead of respectfully living together.
Being a non-believer myself I occasionally go to church and attend many traditional kind of gatherings in my local area because even though I just can't get myself to believe in god I still appreciate what the church has to offer and how it influenced and shaped our traditions, our identity. Sadly, when I attend these events, I never see anyone my age, just old people and sometimes parents with their kids. A small, beautiful chapel in my town closed in the last few years because very few people went. Old people are dying and young people just don't care or just plainly demonize catholicism.
>>73735278
Ah, k. Thanks for clarifying
As far as I'm aware, I am amongst the only people with Portuguese genes (half from Lisbon, half from Terceira) in Texas. Brazilians don't count. What is some of the non-religious culture that comes from Portugal that isn't food, 4 generations down we at least eat the wonderful food.
>>73739579
>>73735278
>stronger consciousness of the relationship between (especially northern) Portuguese and Galicians today than there was a century or two ago.
This is true and even though the amount of people who support this idea (Reintegracionistas/Lusistas here in Galicia) is very, very small.
In terms of language I have friends who speak an alternative to normative (official) Galician, Galician with Portuguese grammar in order to linguistically reintegrate (Reintegrar) Galicia with portuguese-speaking countries in order to somehow give Galician more voice and open it to the international market.
>>73739937
Good question.. Just about every non culinary tradition I can think of has some Catholic connotations. Hell, even some culinary ones do.
>>73739937
Ukelele (brought by the portuguese) and portuguese guitar. (https://youtu.be/lkQhaXi0ACw)
One of the greatest writers of all time in Fernando Pessoa.
And i'm very particular to Portuguese Bullfighting, where instead of killing the bull you grab him by the horns, after the horseman performance.
Then there's our glorious history until the 17th century.
Oh, also we taught dumbass japanese how to swordfight.
>>73741348
https://youtu.be/pRzPPThS_M0
>>73732864
is because we was roman
>>73740872
Also, there's a funny theory about Canada's name that i prefer to that kanata bullshit.
After we lost the independence to the spanish crown, it is known that an agent stole one the most valuable possessions of the portuguese kings and sold them to, amongst others, the english - the secret portuguese maritime charts. One of these, rediscovered quite recently, shows a vast expanse in the northernmost part of the american continent with the words "Ca nada", in portuguese "nothing here".
>>73741348
>Ukelele
Isn't cavaquinho de Portuguese word for it?
I've met a couple who were travelling here in Galicia last summer and the man had a cavaquinho which he played impressively well and he even gifted me an USB drive with Portuguese music and other stuff in it.
>>73741348
I'd add jogo do pau as well. It's kind of obscure but pretty interesting to watch.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajMnwhKgr1s
>>73742216
Yeah, does this remind you of anything?
https://youtu.be/ukTeaIHe1kQ
>Oh, also we taught dumbass japanese how to swordfight.
>>73742069
Yeah, it's cavaquinho. I'm not a music expert but I think there might be some slight differences to the sound eventhough the two terms are used interchangeably sometimes.
>>73742994
>Yeah, does this remind you of anything?
Oh shit, kenpo
Yeah this guy insisted that ukelele and cavaquinho are not the same and how cavaquinho was better etc.
>>73735365
>living in the socialist africana colony of lisbon
This thread belongs to the Spanish empire now.
>>73743730
Actually, the japanese swordfighting fundamentals are based on the spanish school, whiose style we brought to Japan. One of the most common variants and the one most used by portuguese fighters oversees was dual-wielding (which makes me baffle everytime I go on swordfighting threads where people are saying dual-wielding was totally impratical and never used in history). On the off-hand they'd use a shorter sword (aka wakizashi) or one of the fuckers in pic related.
>>73744716
Go to bed Pepe
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