POLAN HABBENINGS #3
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GET IN HERE KURWA JEBANA MAĆ
BIJ BOLSZEWIKA
A NA DRZEWACH, ZAMIAST LIŚCI, BĘDĄ WISIEĆ, KOMUNIŚCI!
>Guide to current political situation in Poland https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ByjANktXxEA
>Polish National TV, streaming both marches with commentaries, IP blocked in some countries, somewhat right wing
tvpstream.tvp.pl
>KODs own stream, streaming exclusively the left-wing march
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kx4sISI3jF8
>Q&A with Jarosław Kaczyński, president of PiS (right wing party in power)
fb/pisorgpl/posts/10153357576437132
they're moving!!
Second for memes
First for J.A.R.O.S.Ł.A.W
>>73279174
4th for Intermarum
#NotAllNazis
>europe flag is literally blue pill
>polska flag is literally red pill
>mfw
stay stronk poland
>>73279174
frig off
WORDS I DON'T UNDERSTAND!
WORDS I DON'T UNDERSTAND!
WORDS I DON'T UNDERSTAND!
WORDS I DON'T UNDERSTAND!
Wtf am I doing watching this.
That's why Poland needs a strong good dictator.
I'm here for you Poland.
NOT RED
NOT RAINBOW
ONLY NATIONALIST POLAND
https://twitter.com/UPasieczna/status/728916330632626176
>>73279377
Fuck off, intermarium is outdated Idea that is no longer needed. Only skavs Will be welcome in Eastern European future
>>73279174
Typowy emigrancki idiota.
>"Europesca!"
As in fishing for Euros?
>>73279488
>Here comes the Swede to try to divide et impera us
Fuck off, somalian
>>73279488
How dare you.
Intermarium is our only good plan for the future. Intermarium or bust.
>>73279174
Norymberga dla lewaków.
>>73279377
>>73279541
Can Australia be in it?
>>73279534
>mfw anglos won't get the joke
>>73279174
THERE WILL BE BLOOD
>>73279174
>sorry, but this cannot be viewed in your country
>>73279595
yeah, as an overseas colony
>>73279596
>what is pescatarianism
>>73279541
Im Slavic. Sweden is fun to live in because you become immune to liberal lies in Eastern Europe by pointing to Sweden
HERE WE GO LADS!
>>73279595
You're welcome, your highest mountain is named after a Pole after all.
Can somebody give me a better explanation of the political climate
>>73279629
Yay, apart of another international league of nations!
So democracy only works when the left wins?
>>73279559
Intermarium Was needed in 1920s. History is dynamic and its no longer needed
>>73279689
Their Hypocrisy is amusing
>>73279650
that's pescEtarianism though
>>73279655
Australia is a Polish colony after all.
>>73279645
You are welcome to become a new state of your country wants to swim all of this way down.
>>73279174
When Will the brawls start?
>>73279690
>Intermarium not needed
We'll see what happens when EU falls.
>>73279666
Nice trips satan
>>73279559
Fuck off why would we want to do anything with you? If I learned anything in the last few years is that you Polacks only want stuff and you give nothing back.Get out of EU please.
>>73279690
Except it is needed now as much as ever, what with what the EU is doing.
>>73279666
1st march :the so called defenders of democracy (KOD): anti-current government, pro EU, liberal as fuck. former parties that failed in the elections are riding their bandwagon and sponsoring the organization of the event.
2nd march: the nationalists, self explanatory, cathlic, mostly support the current government, euro sceptic and especially pissed of about germany pressuring us into accepting refugee quotas which PIS explicitly said they would reject
>>73279780
When EU falls Eastern Europe Will just Go togheter, sure It looks like intermarium but its not the same as the one Pilsudski Wanted to build in 1920s
THREAD THEME
>https://youtu.be/1EPlFdNa1bQ
>>73279815
Under my rule, Poland will give it's share. I want to give you a helping hand, you reject it.
>>73279815
We took anything from you Slovenia? Do you even have things worth stealing?
>>73279834
Who would want to join tho? You can forget the Balkan countries. We aren't dumb you know and we are all watching Poland sucking money out of EU and giving nothing back. Why would we want another coalition with them.
>>73279377
what are the colros representing
>>73279834
I Can agree Eastern Europe should resist western suicidialism but its not the same as intermarium just because It looks similar on a map
>>73279918
You know Poland is satrting to give more to EU than it's getting, right? And I already met a lot of people from Intermarium region that seem to want it.
>>73279884
Be more polish. Hears about some country, first thing on his mind, hmmm do they have something to steal from them LELELLELELLE
>>73279815
Think about this for a second. You might not like them but Australia is going to be in it!
That means you would be allies with a not poor country and we can give you money and shit! Also we are cool.
>>73279932
as is written in filename
v4, c4, extra (and clay romania took from ukraine)
>>73279834
This.
>>73279950
>t. Idiot.
>>73279918
Slovenia, you're literally the only country who doesn't want in. I might remove you from the map then.
>>73279932
Yellow: Bessarabia, reannexed to Romania and money invested so their economy can recover
Dark Green: Visegrad group (V4)
Lime Green: Craiova group (C4 - theoretically Greece isn't part of Craiova group atm, but they are in a pact with Romania and Bulgaria, so close enough)
Blue: Yugoslavia and Bulgaria (south slavs), don't remember why I did it like this.
>>73279950
Intermarum is the name, just because we name it similarly doesn't mean we want exactly what Piłsuduski was going for. Most importantly, it resembles the Intermarum in composition; naming it differently would be like naming France differently now because it's no longer a kingdom.
>>73279174
The Slovenian in this thread is retarded or a troll, seriously If you study economics you Can see that Poland is succesfull DESPITE EU, not because of it.
>>73279999
Nice quads, You are in.
>>73279773
Hope never.
>>73279997
You know Slovenia is also "stealing" EU money?
>>73279868
I feel compelled to love Poland .
>>73280016
thats what is puzzling me, you mean c3?thats Bulgaria+Romania+Serbia, why arent we in the same colors
>>73279999
Australia should join EU :D (I mean you are prolly the most "european" out of all the countries outside the Europe :) not that failed gibe me moniez scheme that polacks and romanians are trying to play.
Was going through Youtube videos and happened to stumble across the 2012 inauguration of Putin
I like his swag walking through those doors.
Is this the man to save us all???
link takes you straight to the swag through door scene and amazing music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNiWnSOsAnE&feature=youtu.be&t=14m6s
>>73279862
Of course it isn't. Do you even consider it would be?
>>73280084
>removing slovenia from intermarium
it's literally the only way this union could work with you mostly landlocked v4 faggots
it would benefit us all if we learned to cooperate
>>73280125
See my reply >>73280084
Lime green is Craiova group, I opted to put Greece in as part of it as well even though they aren't really in yet since they are in a military accord with Bulgaria and Romania already.
>>73280094
I know. But the difference is we aren't playing dirty tho. We actually do stuff for EU too not just take moniez like Polacks do.
>>73280084
Thats fine, i just meant that Pilsudskis concept Was created for the 1920s, as such i dont like the Word, but i Can ger behind deepend Eastern European Cooperation
>>73280084
>moldova is annex
>fyrom isnt
disappointed
>>73280087
Grow up lad.
there're cow boys in poland?
Olbrychski, that fucking sellout.
>>73280091
>>73279999
>INTERNATIONALLY ACCLAIMED DIGITS
You should make a Photoshop of the original image and have Australia Shrunk and in the sea east of Croatia. It'll be great man.
>>73280251
Hey, that's your choice, go for it.
I might edit the map in that respect.
>>73280251
I personally dont want Romania to annex moldova, i think It should Go to Russia
>>73280215
You know that's what Intermarium is for? To cooperate? Not stare at each other's backs with a knife to strike at any time.
>>73280243
Like?
>>73280152
Polish nationalists should drop the Butthurt and ally with all other slavs, preferably Russia because It us the strongest Slavic superpower
>>73279174
And what is exactly happening? Bunch of people marching and saying that they want to stay in "Europe", which is fucking delusional, because who the fuck wants to leave "Europe"
This is so absurd that this march won't have any effect on anything whatsoever and you're making an impression that this is in any way important
>>73279596
>Eternal Anglers get some pesca jokes, pastabro
>>73280149
No, don't make fun of Poland, I love Poland.
This song told me so.
>>73279868
Nah but no joke I would assassinate the cunt that got us into the EU. Delete your post or I will Shitpost your flag every time I see it to devastating effect. You have been warned.
Quick catch up
>KOD (Committee for the Defence of Democracy) civic organisation, created and funded by the liberals and the previous left-wing government (PO, PSL)
>PO (Civic Platform) liberal-conservative party, in power during the previous cadence, strongly pro EU and multiculturalism
>PiS (Law and Justice) national-conservative party, currently in power, sceptic on EU, strongly nationalistic and pro Catholic Church
>PSL (Polish People's Party) agrarian democratic party, made up mostly of ex-commies, was in coalition with PO as the ruling power last cadence
>Nowoczesna (Modern) minor liberal party, they help PO in formation and organisation of KOD
>Andrzej Duda - current president of Poland, from PiS
>Beata Szydło - current prime minister, from PiS
>Bronisław Komorowski - previous president of Poland, a great autismo, from PO
>Jarosław Kaczyński - president of PiS
>Grzegorz Schetyna - president of PO
>Ryszard Petru - president of Nowoczesna
>Donald Tusk - previous president of PO, now president of the EU
>Why has KOD been formed and what are they trying to achieve
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish_Constitutional_Court_crisis,_2015
The KOD march was called to be a possible false flag/provocation by the right wing leaders and politicians, they have urged not to get engaged with any unnecessary situation caused by any KOD supporters or the Police.
Some recent news
>Poland abolishes anti-racism and xenophobia watchdog
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/05/06/poland-abolishes-anti-racism-watchdog/
>Poland declines to take any more immigrants after the attacks in Brussels
http://www.thenews.pl/1/9/Artykul/245910,Poland-will-not-take-in-any-immigrants-PM-Szydlo
>>73280152
He's got a gun on him
>>73279174
Why should I care about this? It's just a bunch of old people honking horns.
>>73279174
Can someone sum up the situation from the YouTube video. I don't speak broken polenglish
what is the march about? are they in support of what....
>>73280312
You are now confirmed russian imperialist.
I don't have anything against russians, but that does not make Russia any less of a threat to a potential intermarum. As can be seen.
>>73280215
>What is Montenegro
>What is Romania
>What is Greece
>What is Croatia
You're not special in any way, Slovenia.
>>73280215
You realise that the Intermarium was intended to be a military pact but also an economic union right?
>>73280364
Not trying to fuck up all the EU because we have to take in few refugees for starters?
>>73280402
It's good to aslo say that PiS absolutely fucked with this country so far, destroying shiz like Constitutional Court, and also making a good bit of controversies and shakeups.
Tanks soon
>>73280446
No balkan country is joining you ever, so you pretty much fucked.
>>73280491
Because you don't have to take refugees> I bet if you did you'd be shitting over just as we do.
>>73280446
This is exactly the same as what Pilsudski Said, its not feasable in modern context, In what way is Russia a threat to Intermarium? Why shouldnt Russia be invited to Intermarium? We have the same Interest after all. The reason i support Rusdia over moldovans is because im Slavic first, as such i support slavs over non-slavs in conflicts like this
>>73280566
Why are you talking in the name of balkan countries, Slovenia> I thought you were Central Yurop.
>>73279595
Fuck off, all of Europe will be our slaves no one will stop us
We must execute Korwin. Only then we will see the light.
>>73280396
>Nah but no joke I would assassinate the cunt that got us into the EU. Delete your post or I will Shitpost your flag every time I see it to devastating effect. You have been warned.
You are basically European.. Stop pretending otherwise.
>>73280446
we're closer to the v4 then any of those countries
>>73280461
your point being?
we suck at cooperating, in fact, half of my country would rather be annexed by austria
>>73280620
Why would you execute him?!
>>73279174
jak tam zakupy w cornershopie u ciapaka, strongbow czy stella ?
finally a comfy voice, who is this "intellectual" lady?
>>73280620
Why? I know hes stealing nationalist votes and support for his retarded libertarianism but hes a good troll
>>73280517
1. Like PO haven't done shit like that, and worse
2. I posted the link explaining what caused this situation right now
>>73280605
We are more balkan than CE and we always had been.
>>73280312
nobody asked you henrik
>sweden
>not on map
get it? now shut up
>>73280603
>We have the same Interest after all.
NO.
>>73280566
>Bulgaria
>Serbia
>Greece
Aren't these balkan countries? And they're already in C4 or in similar accord, there's only few steps to intermarum now.
>>73280603
It's a threat if it gets in. As an external agent, it's fine, but if it ever joined Intermarum it would completely unbalance it in their favor. Russia is simply too big.
As for >slavic first, that just proves you're a russian panslavist. The only kind of panslavist I've seen that goes to this level.
Not to mention giving Moldavia to Russia is retarded shit, considering it's 66% romanian (or "moldavian", aka the fake ethnicity Russia imposed to try to divide us)
>>73280663
Stella jak już, cider to szajs, ale nie pije bo sesja.
the prissy bitch with problem glasses in the stream can't even pronounce abortion correctly
>ustawa antyoborcyjna
>>73280729
All slavs should just Join a United Slavic superstate from Berlin to Vladivostok
>>73280710
They have. I do not disagree with that.
>>73280628
Yeah, but the European Union doesn't decide who is and isn't European. And I love Poland.
>>73280618
Well we are probably stronger than their whole league of nations combined. But we can't enslave Poland, because I love Poland
I love Poland
I love Poland
I love Poland
>>73280632
>we suck at cooperating, in fact, half of my country would rather be annexed by austria
Then you you then, get annexedby Austria.
>>73280696
Spierdalaj na szczaw socjalisto.
>>73280807
>Flag
Shocker.
So why are we watching pro EU march?
Are anti EU people coming?
I thought /pol/ was against EU
>>73280764
We are all trying to resist the liberalism EU, USA and the west is throwing at us. We need a pact from Berlin to Vladivostok
>>73280620
>Spierdalaj na szczaw socjalisto. >>73280834
>>73280816
No, because , I don't trust us if I Am honest and sooner or later it would end up in a big blood shed. Look at Poland now and how they are blackmailing EU. Imagen Poland having even more power....
>>73280905
>We need a pact from Berlin to Vladivostok
You poor fucking fool...
>>73280905
Yes, and have Russia absolutely dominate it all.
USSR so useful thank you.
>>73280778
I Am a panslavist, Romania is an ancient European nation, we should cooperate. Why just intermarium, when we Can controll all Eastern Europe, Caucasus, Central and Eastern Asia togheter with Russia?
>>73280866
u wot m8?
if this is such a big deal why is the msm shut on it.. lol
>>73280834
Socialism is great If used for nation-building and not Nation destroying
>>73279650
pesca means fishing
EuroPesca fishing for Europe
They're saying "stay in eu" because Poland isn't taking refugees and Europe wants to fine countries 250,000€ for each invader they refuse. Would basically fuck things up, I can't believe that not one of you retards figured that out. It's so obvious. You all deserve it for that alone.
>>73281019
Panslavism is so insanely dominated by Russia it leaves no room for others. That's why it's not good.
>>73281071
Kill yourself.
>>73281007
We Can have the capital in Prauge instead of Moscow? Happy?
>>73279174
What's going on in Poland? Are they doing something based again??!
>>73281019
I want cooperation with Russia, I just think that joining a panslavic federation is bad for everyone involved except Russia (history proves this). I would much rather have an Intermarium that is allied and has accords with Russia; that puts our countries on equal footing with Russia.
Also, you're proof of why not; Russia doesn't back down on anything. They're imperialist as fuck and always have been. As much as I want an alliance with them, I would not turn my back to them a single second without expecting them to thrust a knife in it.
>>73281141
Please go
>>73281139
Not neccesarily
poland has some nice architecture, was that building in the square a replica of the pantheon?
>>73281174
That's not how it works.
Russia has the biggest economy there, biggest population, most landmass, most resources. There is no room for others with that.
>>73281141
Why? Because i dont want to legalize plunder in the name of "Muh Freedumbs!"
>>73279377
We want to join too.
>>73281201
Seems reasonable. What regions should Go to intermarium and which should go to Russia?
>>73281314
Welcome if you reject Germany.
>>73279853
Translated this answer, which was made by Jarosław Kaczyński, president of PiS, today about half an hour ago.
>>73281383
Russia for Russia, Intermarium for Intermarium. Nothing lost, nothing taken.
>>73280402
>PO (Civic Platform) liberal-conservative party
>liberal-conservative party
>liberal-conservative
>liberal
>conservative
Everything retarded about this world's current politics is in that sentence.
>>73281429
So Russia Can re-take all lost Soviet territory but stays out of Intermarium (moldova in Intermarium) ?
>>73281218
Souless robot please gtfo.
>>73281281
>plunder in the name of "Muh Freegibs!"
That's exactly what socialism is, greatly put.
Just played GTA South Afri-I mean San Andreas for a while, any violence happen lads?
>>73281383
1610 desu
>>73281508
political position which incorporates support for civil liberties and capitalism, along with some social-conservative positions.
>implying that politics is as easy as left and right
You can be a liberal on some stuff while being conservative on other
>>73281558
Lost Soviet terriotry? That's a loss for Intermarium and a bias towards Russia, Russia is big enough as it is. They can get Kazakhstan if anything.
>>73281705
Based
>>73281397
We are sick of the leftist Germany, their country is flooded with subhuman musli shitskins and they still won't stop it. We share a much closer and much more pleasent History with our eastern european neighbors.
>>73281693
We need a stronger Poland, otherwise we're fucked, 'cause America is too far away
>>73281675
Fun fact, the inividual us useless, so it cannot be plundered because It is there to serve the nationalist peoples state. But ofcourse the people should rebell against liberal capitalist states. But in true Socialist-nationalist society you have no excouse for your damaging inividuality
>>73279174
>KURWA JEBANA MAĆ
>BIJ BOLSZEWIKA
>A NA DRZEWACH, ZAMIAST LIŚCI, BĘDĄ WISIEĆ, KOMUNIŚCI!
45% understood
slav esperanto when?
>>73281806
Good guy.
>>73281806
Merkel is like Hitler from a different Universe, where everything is opposite
>>73281693
How about 1370? *-*
>>73281693
That's not intermarium... that's Poland.
>>73279174
I have no idea what is going on.
>>73281728
What about Ukraine? Galicia to Poland and the rest to Russia? Belarus feels closer to Russia than West slavs
>>73281675
>Souless robot
Yeah, because the Nazi's sold out their nation and it's people for Muslims, remember? Oh wait...
>>73281961
Best year of my life.
>>73281900
>so it cannot be plundered because It is there to serve the nationalist peoples state.
Oh gtfo you gullible and lost moron.
>>73281314
>joining
>not recreating Austro-hungarian empire
Low ambitions famalam
>>73281950
kek
>>73281918
Oldest -> Newest
>Old Church Slavonic
>Common Slavonic Language
>Universalis Lingua Slavica
>Slava-Esperanto
>Neposlava
>Mežduslavjanski jezik
>Slovio
>Interslavic language
>>73279174
What happening with Poland, bros?
>>73282019
Ukraine is a part of Intermarum. Even if we were to split it, it should go along 1618 borders. Belarus is heavily russified, but the western half is also very much rightful Intermarum.
>>73282035
>Yeah, because the Nazi's sold out their nation and it's people for Muslims, remember? Oh wait...
OH WAIT
>>73281705
Yeah, but that would mean a more precise directive, not the combination of both fundamental ideologies as a whole. This term only means "look I can bend over for both of you".
what are they singing?
So basically Soros funded Pro-EU leftists are butthurt that a right winged anti-EU party is in power?
>>73280491
I will bet any amout of money the slovenes will be the first to join the caliphate... They'll coordinate and organise with them and then all of the surrounding will get dragged in to a long war and they'll just sit there smugly being the cunts that they are...
t. diaspora croat
To jest piosenka o PO?
>>73281999
Read
>>73280402
And watch the YT vid in OP
>>73281961
How about 1500? Four states united under the same dynasty.
>>73282221
You are my favourite Russki i ever met.
>>73282221
Lewd
>>73282230
Yes
Btw here's my favourite Korwyn webm
>>73282278
MMMMMM that feels good.
>>73282173
>>73282347
>>73282278
Is it safe for me to visit poland?
>mfw chcę zobaczyć Warszawa
>>73282278
>poland in Kaluga
hahahaha no fuck off
>>73281966
>intermarium
poland want rule its simple
eternal poland butthurt
>>73282230
Well main reason is that when left-wing party was in power they manipulated some policies. Then when the right-wing got in power they canceled those and implemented some of their own to counteract.
And then the left-wing got buttmad, founded KOD, and keep shouting MUHH CONSTITUTION
Read the wiki link in >>73280402
for more
- TU JEST POLSKA?!
- po l s k aa .... (w sercu: TU JEST EU A NIE POLSKA)
- JEST TU LEWICA
>TOP KEK
>>73282278
yeah but the commonwealth was a huge fuck up though
>>73282278
oh come on, my erection can't endure much more
>>73282413
if youre not a dirty shitskin or a nigger yes its safe.
>>73282230
This is exactly it, and they're getting very aggressive about it because Poland is a big country unlike Hungary etc. It's hilarious but also very dangerous if they manage to somehow succeed in undermining our nationalistic movements like this, even after they've been voted in.
>>73282344
Christ this man is based.
>ZA KOMUNISTÓW I ZŁODZIEJI
Nosz kurwa ten tupet i ironia...
>>73282498
lets poland dream
>>73282344
Hooleyee, all these faces when he finished
This much butt hurt
Koriwn is red-pilled as fuck and he does not give a single fuck
>>73279414
On the trees rather than leaves, there will be communists. Except it rhymes in polish.
>>73282422
No but seriously, this was Poland.
>>73282413
>chcę zobaczyć Warszawa
Not much to see. Basically a discount version of any american city since it lacks historic architecture. I would suggest Kraków since there are things to actually look at.
>>73282671
Intermarium was it (Poland) + central north and south Europe.
>>73282671
and after it was divided four or five times i forgot
>>73282749
as i say poland want to rule
>>73282438
>>73282546
How long until Poland gets invaded in order to restore (pro-EU) democracy?
>>73282413
non-whites please do not apply
>>73282671
>Moldova shown as Crimean Khanate
Uw0tm8
>>73282768
It took Russia, Austria and Prussia to divide it 30 years in three partitions, yes.
>>73282807
Eh, intermarium was supposed to be a military alliance and economical union against Berlin and Moscow. If it went trough then Hitler would get BTFO'd and maybe Stalin wouldn't help him.
The best country for Poles ever:
- 3 seas and 2 oceans
- Big, so they can be proud of muh size
- Relevant
>>73282971
new nato? u want it?
>>73282413
Also this
>>73282717
Warsaw was destroyed in 85% during WWII by the Nazis. Most of the buildings there are ex soviet buildings, typical for commie states.
Pic, one of the KOD protestors
>>73282989
No thanks.
boring
no chimpout...
>>73283028
I'm just saying what Pilsudski's Intermarium >>73282749 was supposed to be in the 20th century.
It idea was a strong north-south central Europe against the west and east.
>>73282541
>>73282855
i'm black
>>73282717
>>73283035
Where should I go to then? I know ryanair has cheap tickets from Warsaw to Wrocław and Warsaw to Gdańsk (trojmiasto?).
>>73282807
In my vision Intermarum is not ruled by any country. It is a union of power, where every nation has it's meaning, it's voice and it's say.
Now of course visions don't always come out as we want.
>>73282807
>Poland
>rule
>>73282418
Remember remember the 4th of November Ruski.
You're good at defending you capitol but we still managed to take it, we're the only nation that managed it actually.
>>73283028
Nato is a defence pact.
Nato is only bad for aggressive countries.
Other than that, it's harmless for everyone else.
>>73282989
Just drown in the Black Sea please.
>>73279174
Dobry komuch to martwy komuch.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDpKIb3eGk0
>>73280517
You know sholmo, that Sejm can change Constitutional Court since they are in charge of making laws? Constitutional Court have no power...and never had, they are there just as dubble check. Try to read how things works before you swallow GW propaganda.
>>73283119
its not work, too much weak countries
>>73279174
>We are the tolerant left :^)
>Chat disabled
>>73283294
Mongols and Napoleon also managed. Let's not talk about how long Napoleon held onto it though.
>>73283318
>Nato is a defence pact.
>middle east
хaхaхaхaaх no
>>73282971
Actually, internarium is a stupid idea from the military point of view. It have too long borders to protect it, too weak countries inside of it and don't have many natural resources.
In the best scenario it would be weak version of Germany, and we all know how Germany was gang-raped twice.
>>73282989
And poor and corrupted as fuck.
I appreciate your invitation, but i think i'll pass.
>>73283344
Mate, I know they have the power. They're not using it as they should though. Neither was PO. Or really any party. The whole government can just go suck it's own balls if you ask me.
>>73283294
Remember remember 3 partitions and 1939, kek
>>73282173
Agreeing with them doesn't mean you sold out to them. They are far less a threat than Jews anyway.
>>73282344
>0:59
>>73283318
>NATO
>defense
Nice meme
>>73282395
Nah mate that contradicts tones and tones of quotation from him. Fake.
>>73283349
>its not work, too much weak countries
In the 20th century.>>73283368
>>73283428
>Actually, internarium is a stupid idea from the military point of view.
No it was not. Hitler or Stalin woult get owned if they attacked alone. Just Poland and Czechoslovakia could take one Nazi Germany alone if fully mobilised.
>Mongols
Yeah, but Moscow wasn't a capital then.
>Napoleon
Took an empty evacuated city that wasn't the capital as the Tsar just moved the capital from Moscow just before Napoleon.
+ 1/5 of Napoleons army was Polish, with Polish commanders. Going by that logic Poland took Moscow twice: in 1610 and in 1812.
>>73283273
i say "want to rule" and they realy want
>>73283181
>Intermarum is not ruled by any country
>european union is not ruled by any country
ye ye in dream
>>73283159
>black
Well as long as you keep to the major cities and stay out of trouble you should be fine.
I cannot promise your safety, especially with the situation right now.
Idk about Wrocław but Gdańsk (called trójmiasto, three-city because there are three cities like right next to each other Gdańsk, Gdynia and Sopot) Is pretty nice, typical major sea tourism city. If you're interested in history you can visit Malbork, where the Polish have defended themselves from the german ground troops and the shelling of the Bismarck in the first days on WWII.
>>73283655
>In the 20th century
they all die
The descriptions given by other Poles in this thread are horribly inaccurate. I am legitimately terrified by how factually incorrect these people are, and that the international posters seem to just believe everything for laughs, without verifying the information.
I can't believe that none of you are questioning the obvious "muh poor", "muh terrorist boogieman" narrative.
Every seat in the parliament of Poland belongs to a leftist. Can you bame ONE that isn't? It's impossible.
The current government has introduced so much welfare that the economy is collapsing, they've expanded big government and have actually outright said that equality is more important than liberty. BUT THEYRE ANTI ABORTION!!!! Is this really all it takes for /pol/ to call them right wing?
Or did you forget that they agreed to take in every single refugee to please their foreign plutocrat masters? Had it not been for the Polish people rioting about it, Merkel would be able to do whatever the fuck she wants. The people stopped this, the government wanted to pass it. Never forget that. The bill was already passed, but the citizens rioted. The government was facing Molotov cocktails in the whitehouse if they didn't cancel the reform, and they did so with heavy hearts.
Why does no one remember this? Why is everyone pretending that everything is fine? You are the most cucked people on the planet.
>>73283603
>Fake.
You're an idiot, that's his actual quote.
>>73283666
Didn't I say that visions dont come out as we want?
>>73283655
>+ 1/5 of Napoleons army was Polish, with Polish commanders. Going by that logic Poland took Moscow twice: in 1610 and in 1812
How the fuck does that make any sense?
Marian Kowalski, organizator of the nationalist march today
post something nice
https://twitter.com/UPasieczna/status/728928709097492481
>>73283833
>How the fuck does that make any sense?
Like this sense.
>>73283751
It was either taken out of context or was a lie from that moron that claimed to be the authority on Hitler, can't for the life of me remember.
But if anything, certainly taken out of context considering Natsoc was a Christian movement as he stated multiple items.
>>73280618
Inshallah brother
>>73283833
Well, Poles were the ones with likely least deaths to attrition and desertion.
>>73283087
We don't blacks and Meslems to induce "chimpouts" like they do in some other countries
>>73283897
>>73283897
You're one to talk Sweden
>>73283833
>How the fuck does that make any sense?
poland strong ofc
What's going on ? Deus vult ?
>happening in poland
>90% of the posts in 3 numbered threads is literally what?
>poles will create a new thread after this
>>73283655
>Hitler or Stalin woult get owned if they attacked alone.
>This that Poles actually believe.
Why should they? I'm sure if Hitler would attack, he would first destroy the Internarium inside by promising to one of the members some territories. Actually, that's exactly that happened with Poland in 1939.
That's the pointless. Many weak countries will never form a strong alliance without a powerful master. Even fucken EU cannot form a joint army because US is against.
>>73283920
>considering Natsoc was a Christian movement
You fucking idiot. Christianity was just initially used, but it wasn't Christian you moron.
You Nazi apologists don't even know what movement you're supporting nor it's history. IDIOTS.
LGBT flags kek
>>73284027
no just poland dreams
>>73284083
>Actually, that's exactly that happened with Poland in 1939.
What happened?
>>73283719
The fuck you want? It is way better than it was when PO was in charge. Elections are not some magical time of year when everything gets instantly fixed. Give them time. If killing all politicians was an option, I would vote yes, but sadly, it is not.
>Why does no one remember this? Why is everyone pretending that everything is fine? You are the most cucked people on the planet.
You are either uneducated and never heard of Sweden/Germany, or you are shlomo trying to divide Polish people on this cantonese mug cleaning board
https://twitter.com/UPasieczna/status/728916330632626176
Not red
Not rainbowed (coloured)
But Poland
Nationalistic
It sounds much better in Polish, trust me
>>73284117
You're a retard.
>>73283897
great, a painting. I stand corrected
>>73284197
why? its a dream about lost empire no more
>>73284287
Yep, you're retarded. You don't even know what you're writing about or why this thread is here.
RACEWAR WHEN?
kurwa te wszystkie marche to taka hanba ze na to sie nie da patrzyc. wyzucic ich wszystkich (kod, pis…) do smieci zanim nic ne zostanie.
>>73282498
it was but not all the time only when nobleman wanted all the sheckles for themselfs therfore fuck up
>>73284450
Ale prawdziwych patriotów to ty szanuj.
>>73284463
>nobleman
Not really the noblemen "szlachta" but the magnates.
>>73283719
>The current government has introduced so much welfare that the economy is collapsing
The budget was done by the previous government
>Or did you forget that they agreed to take in every single refugee to please their foreign plutocrat masters?
Previous goverment
I could not be more proud of beinf Polish these days. I knew the Polish spirit would stand up to the globalist EU bullshit, but it happened much faster than I expected.
I only hope this sets the precedent for other countries and leads to a reform or dissolution of the EU.
I am definitely considering working in Poland once I finish my PhD.
>>73284337
i not masturbate for poland i just know history
>>73284095
LOL this NIGGER is MAD.
>>73284139
>Hitler is raising, annexed Austria and want more lands in the East (he even wrote it in his fucking book)
>It's time for Internarium to form: Poland, Czechoslovakia, Balts, Finland, Hungary, Romania and Bulgaria should unite against Germany
>But no, Poland prefer to annex a part of Lithuania and than ally with Hitler and annex a part of Czechoslovakia.
>1st September 1939, Poland, with no allies, invaded by Germany
>>73284600
> You fucking idiot. Christianity was just initially used, but it wasn't Christian you moron.
He's right you know
>>73279421
>Gdańskball
How didn't I know about this? My great home city.
>>73282248
sorry to burst your bubble mate but atm situation in our country is lookin grim..by saying grim i mean that more than half of our people became "nazis?".. lots and lots of hotility against refugees. the only ones that are welcoming muslims are bosnians/muslims that came to live in slovenia back when shit was going off in yugoslavia and even some of them arent welcoming them with open arms.. i shit you not. its just a matter of time when some random citizen grabs AK from Zastava factory and starts shooting randomly at refugees..
>>73284095
It had some pagan symbolism, but it was in fact Christian. Prove me wrong.
I'd wager I know more about this than you friendo.
>>73284603
>>It's time for Internarium to form: Poland, Czechoslovakia, Balts, Finland, Hungary, Romania and Bulgaria should unite against Germany
Yes, Poland tried three times since the 30's, but each time talks failed.
>But no, Poland prefer to annex a part of Lithuania
With Polish 80% majority, the citizens themselves asked for intervention.
>and than ally with Hitler and annex a part of Czechoslovakia.
DIDN'T FUCKING HAPPEN YOU LIAR
Czechoslovakia annexed Zaolzie (Polish majority) from Poland in 1920. Poland just retook it in 1938, WITHOUT ANY GERMAN HELP.
Fuck... Polish army went as fast to capture the most strategically important railway station in the area (Zaolzie) before the Germans did, even some incidents happened with each sides firing off few shots. The situation was very tense between the Germans and Polish sides and people din't know if a conflict would break out, but deescalated in the end.
There was NO Polish-German cooperation, NONE, it a separate Polish action.
Czechoslovakia betrayed Poland first and annexed that same territory years before when Poland was attacked by USSR, Poland just took it back when Czechs were attacked by Germans.
Even is even.
I am white but speak no gommie gargle goo
Can I still come visit?
>>73284807
>but it was in fact Christian.
Hitler wasn't a Christian you moron, especially not the SS, they and much of he Nazi leadership were occultist pagans. There was no place for Christianity in the SS, and members were actively encouraged to break with the Church.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eX3R_mQnsRM
>>73279918
You're such a cuckold really.
Fair play to them if they're only taking money because fuck this Jewish communistic Union.
They actually pay in tho, and now they're demanding 250k per each refugee. If they would tell Slovenia to pay this you probably would and you would lick their asshole too at the same time.
Countries like yours should have fuck all say, you've no balls.
Same goes for island, that's why we side with UK. You should be begging Poland to take you under their protectorate because without Poland you would possibly be Muslim now you queers bastard.
>>73284979
Yes, most people here know English.
>>73284975
not rly tried to form intermarium. piłsudski tried to ally hitler but he died and these little shits after him fuck everthing up
>>73284979
Here? Historically we're the most anti-commie nation. Though they say that almost 50 years of actual communist occupation turned us into Homo Sovieticus.
>>73284975
>With Polish 80% majority, the citizens themselves asked for intervention.
So this supposed to help diplomatic relationships?
>Poland just retook
And this too?
Well, you know, if Internarium is unable to unite even facing the real threat from Germany, than it's really obsolete and exist only in Polish fantasies.
>>73285222
Source on him trying to ally Hitler.
>>73283471
>Anarchist
Still left.
Even worse that commies.
>>73285320
Any proper history book not written by commie or jew?
>>73285320
Well he called him a bandit and asked UK and France to intervene because he was arming himself. They refused.
After his death we tried again but they refused once again.
But for some time yeah. We tried to be allies. Hitler was the friendliest German leader since WWI or so he appeared and we had fucking Soviets on the other side who were even worse than him.
>>73285320
well how else you explain this fucking pic.
there is tone of clues to assume that he want to ally him
http://natemat.pl/143089,smierc-pilsudskiego-wstrzasnela-hitlerem-europa-utracila-wielkiego-obronce-pokoju
more pics but i dont thinlk its reliable source for all assumptions
pokazują jedną młodą dziewczynę spiewającą hymn aby ludzie nie myśleli ze w tym marszu to sami emeryci
a niech tam idą do diabła, kod, pis, jedna kantora
>>73284570
>>73284151
There's no point talking with these people. They're programmed to pick up on buzzwords and scream you down with things like MUH PREVIOUS GOVERNMENT, MUH POOR and MUH TERRORISTS.
Hey, assholes, I'm not talking about the previous government. I'm talking exclusively about reforms made by the new one. The welfare state is only months old and is exclusively their idea. The rapefugee summit was days before the Paris massacre, both the new party and president were in power.
But you are catatonic. You are blind to anything that doesn't fit the narrative. Right now you're searching for a buzzword to latch onto and attack me with media rhetoric without actually addressing a single goddamn thing that I said.
This is how people vote...
>>73285222
>piłsudski tried to ally hitler
No he really didn't. He tried to invade German with France in the 1920's, but they cucked out. Then after that he tried to improve relations with Hitler and said to Beck that he should do everything in his power to not allow a war to be fought on within Polish soil (implying a German pact against USSR if needed).
>>73285302
>So this supposed to help diplomatic relationships?
No, but Lithuania didn't want to have any relations before, so Poland force them to reopen relations. Lithuanian government was very anti-Polish in Polish majority territories, so much soo that they asked for Poland to intervene.
>>73285302
>And this too?
Yes, Czechoslovakia annexed it in 1920 and Poland annexed it back in 1938.
>>73285302
>Well, you know, if Internarium is unable to unite even facing the real threat from Germany,
I said it would be a great idea IF IT DID.
>than it's really obsolete and exist only in Polish fantasies.
The idea itself is not obsolete, are you retarded?
>>73285351
ANARCHIST?!!! ME!??
I would never. I just want the government to go through a shakeup, a change, a removal of all the parties that are there now and a change of government.
>>73285607
Well natemat is probably the worst newsite right now.
But yeah Hitler looked up to Piłsudski. Perhaps he reminded him of old Prussian officers. So he ordered a phony casket and attented a mass in Berlin.
>>73279174
Why is Poland rioting?
Is it to remove libcucks? Or they want multiculturalism? Pls be libcucks pls...
>>73285652
but i think i write just that (the part with German-Polish pact against USSR)
>>73285607
Yes, Hitler initially wanted an German-Polish alliance against the USSR. But that's not what you were first implying...>>73285720
>But yeah Hitler looked up to Piłsudski.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qeO9QbR2cSA
>>73284167
Nie czerwona
Nie tęczowa
Tylko Polska
Narodowa
Is this correct?
>>73285887
But that was initiated by Hitler, and Beck rejected it.
>>73285893
sry then i fucked up the writing
I LOVE K.O.D
t. Ryszard Petru here
>>73285652
>Lithuanian government was very anti-Polish in Polish majority territories
Exactly like Polish government was in Ukraine and Belarus.
>Yes, Czechoslovakia annexed it in 1920 and Poland annexed it back in 1938.
Than the whole Poland should have became Russian because Poland was a part Russian empire. Finland and balts too.
>I said it would be a great idea IF IT DID.
The problem is that idea of Internarium is impossible to fulfill, so yeah, it's a stupid idea. It's like I would say "oh it would be great if people had wings and could fly!".
>The idea itself is not obsolete, are you retarded?
Sorry, I missed the meaning of the word "obsolete".
>>73285893
That's bullshit propaganda. He stated numerous times in 20s that Poland needs to be destroyed.
He also started preparing lists of Poles to exterminate after signing non-agression pact.Plus he trained German milita from German minority in Poland,preparing for invasion.
>>73286205
No, Polish government was surprisingly tolerant in Ukraine and Belarus, you know?
Zaolzie was majorly Polish, and Czechs treated the Poles living there not too well.
Intermarium is very much possible to fullfill.
>>73286012
after hitler gain power Piłsudki sent gratulation letter so it was initiated by him not hitler.
the fuck is going on? is this a left-wing rally or a right-wing one? fuck me if it's left...
>>73279174
PiS is as retarded as opposition.
>>73285652
>No he really didn't. He tried to invade German with France in the 1920's, but they cucked out. Then after that he tried to improve relations with Hitler and said to Beck that he should do everything in his power to not allow a war to be fought on within Polish soil (implying a German pact against USSR if needed).
Pilsudski was a Lithuanian and obsessed with Russophobia.
Best choice for us would be if White Russia hadn't fallen and Dmowski at the head of Polish state with Curzon line B at the eastern border(with Grodno and Lviv, but without Ukrainian and Belarussian lands).
Poland could be loosely allied with White Russia and that would block Germany from winning against us.
Russians didn't want Congress Poland anyway already before the war and were preparing for some autonomy because it wasn't worth the effort.
>>73286323
its rigt wing rally with leftist trolls pretty much this
>>73286312
>surprisingly tolerant
Yeah, so much tolerant that Ukrainian nationalist loved Poles
>>73286409
oh. clashes soon?
>>73286474
Yes, because nationalists love any country other than themselves.
>>73286205
>Exactly like Polish government was in Ukraine and Belarus.
Not really. Don't repeat Soviet propaganda here boi.
>>73286205
>Than the whole Poland should have became Russian because Poland was a part Russian empire.
That's why Moscow should become part of Poland because Moscow was part of the Polish Crown of the Kingdom of Poland.
>>73286205
>The problem is that idea of Internarium is impossible to fulfill, so yeah,
No it's not... and V4 already exists and is a micro version of the Intermarium. Fuck, the president of Estonia (kek) in an interview told that Poland should take the lead and become more present in regional politics in central Europe just because it has the historical (Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth) claim as an great power in that area. That's what Estonia and Latvia want, former Livonian lands of the PLC. But yeah, they are irrelevant.
>>73285187
>YouTube video as citation
And you called ME the moron.
Himmler was the only one confirmed to have this belief.
And you can find any number of quotations saying that Hitler was Christian. He had said many times that he was bought up catholic and remained catholic.
Do some research kid, wikipedia and YouTube don't count.
>>73285652
>Then after that he tried to improve relations with Hitler and said to Beck that he should do everything in his power to not allow a war to be fought on within Polish soil (implying a German pact against USSR if needed).
A big taboo in Poland is discussing a natural different option.
What if Poland managed to get pact with USSR instead.
A bit of useless Kresy, allow Soviets to take Baltics in exchange for protection from Nazis and joint division of East Prussia in event of war.
Perfect deal.Unfortunately Russophobia makes it impossible.
>>73286582
And Poles were nationalists in 1930th)))
>>73283700
>If you're interested in history you can visit Malbork, where the Polish have defended themselves from the german ground troops and the shelling of the Bismarck in the first days on WWII.
And you know. Kickass teutonic knights castle. One of the biggest castles in the world.
>>73286246
>That's bullshit propaganda. He stated numerous times in 20s that Poland needs to be destroyed.
After 1938-39, after Beck rejected his proposal. Hitler was an unstable mental reactionary megalomanian fuck okay?
>>73286246
>He also started preparing lists of Poles to exterminate after signing non-agression pact.
Started in 1938, again after Beck's rejection.
>Plus he trained German milita from German minority in Poland,preparing for invasion.
Again...
>>73286610
>. and V4 already exists and is a micro version of the Intermarium.
Intermarium will never exist because there are too many too different countries.
Bulgaria for example now supports refugees.
Best choice is slow expansion of V4 to Croatia and Slovenia.Maybe to Romania later.
Building any opposition to Russia btw is retarded, Czechs, Slovaks know it and won't allow it.
Poland must have neutral or good relations with Russia.
>>73286316
>after hitler gain power Piłsudki sent gratulation letter so it was initiated by him not hitler.
I wrote that Pilsudski initiated good, but short, German-Polish relations. Hitler on the other hand initiated a German-Polish military alliance, there's a difference???
>>73286670
We already had experience with having a multicultural country, and knew that having a decent amount of tolerance will help.
I'm not saying it was perfect, because it wasn't, but it wasn't terrible.
>>73286729
>Started in 1938, again after Beck's rejection.
>Again...
Both were already started in 1937. Learn history.
>>73286729
>Hitler was an unstable mental reactionary megalomanian fuck okay?
Yes, his reactions to Polish hostility and the genocide of ethnic Germans was surely just a massive over reaction on his part right?
Fuck Poland.
>>73286811
>Hitler on the other hand initiated a German-Polish military alliance, there's a difference???
Hilter never initiated nor offered alliance to Poland.
What he offered is for Germany to take over control over Polish economy by annexing Pomorze and Poland becoming a German puppet.
>>73286636
Actually, Stalin offered a kind of alliance to Poland, but you know, he implied that where would be Red Army bases in Poland. So of course Poles rejected.
I'm sure eternal Soviet would eat Poles if they agreed to.
>>73286872
Oh australia. What would we do without you?
>>73286896
>annexing Pomorze
That wasn't part of the deal. Free City of Gdańsk was.
/pol/ please help a gypsy out,let me see if i get this right: am i looking at a huge rally where there's both right wing and left wing members in? if so clashes when?
>>73286929
>Actually, Stalin offered a kind of alliance to Poland, but you know, he implied that where would be Red Army bases in Poland. So of course Poles rejected.
In hindsight, even that would be a better option.
But like I said
Best option=White Russia remaining in some form of Constitutional Monarchy. Poland under Dmowski confederated with Russia, Czechoslovakia and Yugoslavia in post-WW1.Would require Russia to survive WW1 in better shape.
Second best option-Polish-Soviet Pact to divide East Prussia and Baltics, plus parts of useless Kresy to Soviets.
>>73287004
>That wasn't part of the deal. Free City of Gdańsk was.
Nope, Hitler wanted to annex large area of Pomorze to connect Germany to Gdansk.
Anyway Germans demanded Silesia too later in negotiations, but not many people remember this.
>>73286403
That would be an interesting alternative>>73286625
>And you can find any number of quotations saying that Hitler was Christian.
In his childhood and using that initially, but he went to a church mass just ONCE during his NSDAP years, that being in pic related.
Hitler wasn't a Christian (PERIOD).
>>73286610
>Poland should take the lead and become more present in regional politics in central Europe just because it has the historical (Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth) claim as an great power in that area.
Sorry, but this is pure populism and PR.
There's no place for "historical claim" in politics. The only reason politicians mention history is PR.
>>73286625
>And you can find any number of quotations saying that Hitler was Christian.
Didn't stop him from trying to eradicate Church in Poland and Church books, buildings and art.
>>73286636
>What if Poland managed to get pact with USSR instead.
But the USSR was Poland's #1 enemy in the 1920-30's, most of the armies was stationed in the east and prepared for an eastern border war.
Poland was the most anti-Bolshevil/Communist country in that period and that wouldn't be an option.
>>73287092
Best option would be German-Russian alliance instead of ww1)
>>73286745
it could exist but there must be some preparations before that do you realy think its imposible?
>>73286811
yes
>>73286872
after ww2 with allies Poland lost 15-20% of total population so there was little overreaction
>>73287024
lets hope it not clashes if so then warsaw become next donbas
>>73287155
still better than get fucked up by 2 superpowers and this jews thing
>>73287234
>There's no place for "historical claim" in politics. but there is in propaganda if someone would did this correctly maybe it would succeded
>>73287298
>But the USSR was Poland's #1 enemy in the 1920-30's, most of the armies was stationed in the east and prepared for an eastern border war.
>Poland was the most anti-Bolshevil/Communist country in that period and that wouldn't be an option.
Nope, Germany was the most anti-Bolshevik country and managed to get a deal with them.
So could Poland if it could act in strategic manner.
>>73287359
>Best option would be German-Russian alliance instead of ww1)
For you ;).
But seriously, it was impossible, since Germans were obsessed with Lebensraum and Anti-Slavism, they wanted the war already in 1860s. Bismarck and other chancellors wrote about it in their diaries.
>>73286745
>Bulgaria for example now supports refugees.
Literally what? Stop lying.
>>73286745
>Poland must have neutral or good relations with Russia.
Poland should have good-neutral relations with both the west and east and follow its own interest.
>>73286845
>Both were already started in 1937. Learn history.
The first draft of said doc, yes, but German Polish anti-sentiment started to really roll in 1938.
>>73287393
>still better than get fucked up by 2 superpowers and this jews thing
How is being exterminated better?
Mogę wrócić do Polski?
>>73286872
Didn't happen fucktard.
+ Bromberg happened during the German invasion and more ethnic Poles died in it than Germans.
>>73287155
Kind of. Transnational railway was a part of the deall too. So yeah, deal basicly made Poland a vasal state of Third Reich. But refusing the deal made us their conquest while Britain looked the other way.
>>73286896
We are talking about Ribbentrop-Beck here. What you're talking about is post 1938.
>>73287502
I know.
Nationalism is a cancer ideology
>>73287506
>Literally what? Stop lying.
>http://www.novinite.com/articles/174342/Bulgaria%27s+PM+Calls+for+EU+Solidarity+on+Refugee+Relocation+Quotas
>The first draft of said doc, yes, but German Polish anti-sentiment started to really roll in 1938.
Germans were calling Poles animals already in 18th century. Hitler called for destruction of Poland already in 1921. You really have little knowledge about history.
>>73287407
>managed to get a deal with them
Deal that was made to be broken since very beginning? Neither soviets or nazis actualy wanted to partner up. Both sides just wanted to buy more time.
>>73287614
>But refusing the deal made us their conquest while Britain looked the other way.
Accepting it would mean millions of Poles dying in East, and western Poland annexed. Then ruthless Germanization.
Or if Soviets win becoming Belarus/Crimea 2.0 with borders of Congress Poland and millions more in Siberia.
>>73287540
not necessarilyexterminated if Polish resistance wasnt total ass during war i think there wouldnt be much casualities as 15-20% of total population
>>73287675
>What you're talking about is post 1938.
He mentioned annexing whole Western Poland already in 1936 to his close circle.
>>73287234
>Sorry, but this is pure populism and PR.
That's literally what the president or PM (don't remember) of Estonia said in an interview.
>>73287811
>if Polish resistance wasnt total ass during war i think there wouldnt be much casualities as 15-20% of total population
>Germany occupies Poland without any resistance
>somehow its extermination effort is less effective
>>73287782
So more or less what happened anyway? You know what would work REALLY well? If Britain and France actually attacked the germans while Poland was fighting them off. You know. Like they promised. Germany wasn't ready to fight on two fronts.
>>73287281
Why would he keep the moral center of Poland alive?
>>73287606
I know it happened during, but the destruction of Poland was justified as a result. They were being bitches anyway.
>>73287393
>after ww2 with allies Poland lost 15-20% of total population so there was little overreaction
Citation needed. There were no gas chambers and I doubt they systematically executed that many civilians.
It is quite possible that the Russians were responsible though.
>>73287281
Christianity was just a tool for hitler. For tool to be usefull for you it can't be used by someone else.
>>73287407
>Nope, Germany was the most anti-Bolshevik
No, I repeat, Poland WAS.
