why do christians and muslims hate each other so much when they basically worship the same god?
is it ever possible for conciliation?
jesus is in the koran too you know
Islam has 1 single goal, conquer the world.
It is not compatible with any other religion or culture.
>>73045508
Yeah, Jesus is in the Koran, but he's not the son of God and all. That's kind of the whole schtick with Christianity.
>>73045424
I hate muslims because they want to murder me and everyone I know.
>portraying a Christian as a redneck
>>73045424
notice how the muslim guy is black. There is no possible reconciliation
>why do christians and muslims hate each other
For really valid and numerous reasons.
>>73045424
I like pork, shellfish and alcohol
In fact I like them all so much I'd fight a cunt to have them
Oh yeah I love fucking whores too
>>73045424
>is it ever possible for conciliation?
WHILE THE HERETICS STILL DRAW BREATH THERE CAN BE NO PEACE
>>73045773
>pork, shellfish and alcohol
werent those banned in the old testament as well? even just 90 years ago there was a push for prohibition
>>73045773
Those fuckers love to fuck whores and drink alcohol too, anon.
Actually, everybody except for SJCucks hates Muslims. Muslims hate everybody. So it's not just between Christianity and Islam.
>>73045668
>portraying Muslim as durka durka
And
>ameribibles
>not christian
>>73045424
What the fuck means ELI5 ?
>>73045923
Explain like I'm 5 years old.
>>73045424
Islam cannot peacefully coexist with any other religion on earth.Holy shit even 100% pure Islamic "Utopias" are violent as fuck
100% Christian nations are relatively peaceful compared to the absolute clusterfuck that is any country with a Muslim population of 10% or more.
>>73045424
Not the same god, that's an old meme.
>>73045610
That's called civilising a bunch of pagan savages Ahmed, different from invading established civilisations.
>>73045981
and you know because.....?
>>73045424
Everyone hates muslims
>>73045424
I don't care about religon
>>73045424
Muslims deny that Jesus is both human and divine, even when Jesus Himself proclaimed it; Muslims come along 600 years later and claim they have the "Corrected Version of the Jewish and Christian Scriptures"
And all you see in the Koran are chronologically incoherent narratives, and instructions on how to manage conquered peoples.
The Koran teaches that Jesus never died, and is in Heaven. Muhammad died, and his tomb is in Saudi Arabia, with his body. Christians proclaim the death of Christ at the hands of Pontius Pilate, he was put to rest in a tomb, which still exists today, and rose after three days- all that was left to us was his burial shroud, which you can still see.
Now, why would people follow a dead man, and not a living one?
>muslims
>have tried to conquer the world since Islam's inception
>christians
>went crusading when muslims started fucking with us
>muslims keep killing people everywhere they are
>buh they're not a liability guys
The most humane thing to do for the rest of humanity would be to line them all up and shoot them
>>73046026
I don't remember any instances in the past X years where thousands of deluded Christians go and blow themselves up because they think skyking will be happy.
Allah is Satan. He brings the worst out of people, he isn't all-loving, and he certainly isn't omnipotent.
>>73045907
Shit comparison and you know it
>>73045424
>worship the same god?
Walid Shoebat Exposes Lies of Islam Allah is not God but Satan the deciever
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zhp7Qaj5NSU
Know Your Enemy (Part 27 - Allah)
http://youtu.be/x_s5By7s8z0
Know Your Enemy (Part 28 - The Kabah)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fodMC9oTy7Q
Proving Allah is the goddess Isis
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9VPO47DeoPQ
Jesus Christ is the son of the almighty father. The Messiah. Not a fucking prophet.
Muhammad was an evil man who was tricked by Satan to start Islam and wipe out every last Christian on earth. Islam is the anti-christ religion. There is absolutely no need for it since Christianity is the true path.
Jesus Christ didn't have sex with a 9 year old girl, and use a group like ISIS to spread Islam by conquest. Muhammad did.
>>73045424
I don't hate christians
>>73045424
>ELI5:
Better question. Why does reddito try SO HARD to distance themselves from 4chan when it is beyond obvious by now that most of their users camp out and scavenge here?
>>73045424
Why do Jews and muslims hare each other? They both are semites that mutilate their dicks, hate pork and slaughter animals halal/kosher.
>>73046193
what about this guy? he is christian
if you can denounce him the muslim world can denounce the terrorists as well
>>73046300
AYYWA SALEM
>>73046310
And to be fair, vice versa.
>>73045424
>why do christians and muslims hate each other so much when they basically worship the same god?
Christians worship God.
Muslims worship Muhammad.
>>73046341
He doesn't even claim to be a christian.
>>73046026
It's not the same God, because God made Himself known to us through His Creation of all things, His Spirit which inspires us, and His only Begotten Son, who is one with the Father in Heaven.
Allah never came down on Earth, to know suffering like us, and to die as the perfect offering for the forgiveness of all sins. How many Christians did Muslims kill for Allah, before Christians took up the sword and showed you our own might?
Allah's a dick. Don't follow this false god- a god created by an illiterate warlord who plagiarized Christian and Jewish teachings and stories.
>le same god meme
kek
>>73045848
The Old Testament doesn't count though. Jesus sacrificed himself for our sin, blah, blah, blah. The old testament is void and null. The Old Testament is mostly a Jewish thing anyway.
>>73046341
>70 people dead
>millions dead since your shitty Jihad started
reddit pls
>>73046293
Trump is a athiest. Just sayin
>>73046341
The man is a FREEMASON, and you know who Freemasons worship? Lucifer.
Oh, yes, Christians, Muslims, and Jews are allowed to be Freemasons, but the error of Freemasonry is that it treats these three as if there are no differences between them. And that is why Freemasonry has been fighting with the Roman Catholic Church- because the Church declared Freemasonry a heresy, a danger to the soul.
>>73046346
What, speak english my man we are on an english board.
>>73046380
No we worship god.
>>73046341
Brevik aint a terrorist. He's a hero.
>>73046550
>No we worship god.
Yeah, of course you do.
>>73046341
>killed degenerate libshits, mudslime, and mudslime supporters.
I'm not seeing the issue.
>>73046250
Shit comprehension and you know it
>>73046341
He isn't a Christian. He has never claimed to be one.
>>73046261
>>Allah is godess ISIS
Now my lad you have gone far
>>73046445
Yes, Jesus Christ, when He died on the Cross (Something Muslims deny, and Christians proved true) the Law of Moses that all faithful to God had to follow was made unnecessary. That is why there is no circumcision for Christians; Circumcision was a symbol of agreement between God and Abraham. The symbol of the new agreement between ALL of humanity and God is Jesus Christ, upon the Cross.
>>73045508
>Islam
wrong. don't confuse us with jews. if only george bush never was the president, all of these shit wouldn't happen. islam couldn't care less about anything that isn't islam.
>>73045652
i don't. my mom doesn't. my neighbors don't
>>73046449
Millions dead since your shitty crusade started
Whatever guys, can we agree to disagree, we believe jesus is a prophet and you believe jesus is a God, there is no point in arguing about it.
>>73046638
Ironically, this post is a contradiction
Try not to shit on this board as you do on your streetd
Any religious teaching that impedes human progress will eventually be purged. I'm kinda glad that Islam will be the first to go since it is savage and backwards as fuck.
>>73046633
>killing degenrate, libshits and christcucks
I don't see a problem here
>>73045905
>Muslims hate everybody
i don't
holy shit
there are still people on /pol/ that believe Allah the God of the Musilms and God the God of the Christians are.... two... separate.. Gods....
Wow.............
Hey Fuck Obama he's a dick, but the Current President of the United States is unbelievably awesome!!!
^^^^^^^^^ That's how stupid it is...
>>73046768
No one cares about the Asian muslims, dude.
Most of us don't even know you guys exist.
We really just want to kill the filthy fucking Saudis and their crew. Most of /pol/, particularly the older posters, like Iran for instance.
It is funny that the more Christian you are, that is to fundamentalist Christian, the more your views align with modern day Islam. Yet they cannot get over the fact that they both worship Yahweh but call Her someone different.
>>73046806
>this post is a contradiction
Elaborate ameridumb
>>73046774
crusades started in response to islamic expansionism. Nobody gave a shit about you sandcoons until you started poking us
>>73046740
Your Quran speaks about making the whole world Islamic then the Sunnis and Shias are going to fight it out in a massive battle and which ever group wins gets to welcome Allah to the world.
Basically Islam wants to start massive wars were billions of people die just so they can welcome Satan to earth.
Fucking swine. You will all be destroyed.
>>73046051
no please don't. i hope the hipster and underground scene in the US aren't like you. i'm planning to move to the US.
>>73045907
>ameribibles
>not christian
>>73046638
>Shit comprehension and you know it
you wut m8
>>73045508
The Canadian government used to send Catholics to literally rape the english into the natives.
>>73046907
bait.. but I'll bite.
You've never read a page of the Quran or Bible.
>>73046886
>her
Assigning gender to God of Abraham (pbuh) is blasphemy
>>73046841
You will when the global economy and science collapses.
Trinity university has more nobel laureates than all of the mudslime faith put together.
>>73047000
Kill yourself, Ahmed. When Trump comes to power, your kind will not be safe here.
>>73046900
Our average iq is 10 points above yours. Even my elaboration would be too complex for a streetshitter.
Why don't we get along instead of fighting guys, tell me what's the point of this.
I mean how about we talk about trump you like that don't you.
>>73047018
Incorrect. Also poo in loo (pil)
>>73046904
Jehad started in response ROMAN and Persian incursion in Arabia. Nobody gave a shit about romanshits until they started poking Arabs
>Be an adult
>Be religious
>Believe in fairy stories
seriously stupid people need to be culled they are an embarrassment to humanity
>>73045424
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4EmOyE7pWI
Islam hatelist:
Jews > former muslim apostates >Christians/fedoras/whatever
>>73047127
>Romans started the jihad
lol. Islam wasn't even a thing back then
>>73046925
Are you a girl?
>>73047104
Because there cannot be peace. There can only be one major monotheistic religion on the Earth and you know it.
It's either Christianity or Islam and Christianity was here first so fuck off.
>>73046310
>>73046362
i only wrote ELI5 to rustle some jimmies. I dont browse there save for some video game subs
although this isnt 2007 anymore. Theres tons of crossover between 4chan and plebbit now
>>73047145
To be fair you have an entire house of parliament called "LORDS" whom you worship as living gods and a royal family you worship also.
>>73047043
>when science collapses
You are Same shit as the libcucks who believe in dark ages.
Science never stops m8.
>>73047127
>roaddefecator education
Topkek
>>73047073
>amerilards
>giving me lecture on intelligence
WEW
E
W
>>73047201
nope
>>73046740
>islam couldn't care less about anything that isn't islam.
Exactly. That's why they execute heretics without a blinking an eye.
Islam and Christianity were made to hate eachother.
Give up your religions, as they are false and return to the true gods pf your ancestors.
>>73047104
We will not get along we see you muslims making some serious attemts to reform Islam and to get rid of the saudis and they cancerous influence.
>>73047384
So Paganism?
>>73046768
but would you stop your fellow muslim killing an infidel?
do you believe in sharia law?
be careful with your answers indonbro, your fellow muslims might behead you.
>>73047289
>two sentences are a lecture
This is why your average is considered borderlinr retarded here lel
Make you sure you switch streets, wouldn't want to block traffic
>>73047197
I didn't said Rome started jihad , they were heavily campaigning in the Arab buffer states.they called on ghassanid Arabs to fight the Muslim Arab.the Muslim soldiers barely survive the ghassanid and ROMAN invasion.it took much time to recover and launch a counter attack the jihad.
>>73047255
>ameridumb education
Topkek
>>73047202
>>73047407
You know what why do i even try, this is /pol/ it will always hate islam, if it wasn't for this ID that tell where you're from i will be able to post here normally, but no i must always be called out for being an arabic muslim.
>>73047384
Fuck off Kraut
Your ideology: riving, poor and confused.
This can be spread in the desert, but not here.
>>73047466
damnit. So you are saying we had the opportunity of killing the cancer that is islam at its root but failed?
>>73047364
but the reason wasn't even religious. my families are super religious. and no there are no signs of violence everytime i talk to them. they even made friends with a lot of people from other religions
>>73047457
>amerilard doesn't understand phrases
Make sure to check the guns safety, wouldn't want to shoot up school accidentally
>>73047498
>your countryman are desperate to study here
Weak bantz tbqh
>>73047445
they're not my responsibility. we're not in the same 'clan' or whatever. and i only have two brothers.
>>73047501
It's not only /pol/.
America is one of the most anti-islamic countries on the planet. There is always some Haji being beaten up and called a terorrist by someone.
It's either us, or you. We choose us.
>>73047501
face it buddy, your imam would definitely call this site and it's content haram
>>73047501
>this is /pol/ it will always hate islam
Because of its shitty beliefs.
>>73047575
Well God is with the righteous, the Muslim army led by lion of Arabia massacred the Roman jackals at the yarmouk.
>>73047443
yes
>>73047657
>his country lets in turdworlders
Weak immigration policies m8
>>73047682
funny part is we are more tolerant of them then they are of us
>>73047608
>indian bowelmind doesn't understand civilization
>>73046445
It's not null and void, no leistes la Biblia. The only thing that was removed was the need to make animal sacrifice for the pardoning of sins, hence why Jesus is referred to the Lamb, and the main reason for his sacrifice. A few other tjings but mostly it's intact, everything in the Bible is still in play if you are actually Christian, I'm stating to the general public now. It's just ignorants and hypocrites who skewer and misuse or misunderstand it for their own benefits.
>>73047662
>they're not my responsibility.
So you wont stop a muslim terrorist from killing an infidel because it's not your responsibility?
And this Jordanian guy >>73047501 is wondering why /pol/ hates islam.
There's your answer.
>they're not my responsibility.
>>73047878
Not by much.
Every poll done even by liberal outlets show over 60% of Americans support banning muslims from coming here.
And of course I agree.
How can a terrorist get us if they are not allowed here?
Checkmate ISIS.
>>73047977
>270 million casualties over 1400 years
Gonna need some solid sources on that m8
>>73047756
Paganism may be fine but Christianity removed islam in the northern islands
If it wasn't for Jose, I've might have been butthurt reading through /pol/
>>73047977
>270 gorillion
>>73045424
Anglos and krauts hate each other for the same reason.
Americans and euros hate each other for the same reason.
Chine sea and Japanese hate each other for the same reason.
They're all separated by water.
>>73045424
Because Christianity reformed itself through the ages, european secularity is just a continuity of christianity brought by the progress in western science.
Sunni Islam is the same dogshit ideology from the year 600, it is totally exogene from western culture and will never be a part of it, at one time or another there will be a clash, like during the Reconquista, like during the crusades, like in Lebanon, etc...
>>73047070
let me know when trump comes to power after Hillary is president
>>73047977
>So you wont stop a muslim terrorist from killing an infidel because it's not your responsibility?
would you ? if yes, how ?
>>73048231
Is that why the British hate everything?
>>73048016
i can't believe there are people who still believe that 9/11 was actually not an inside job
>>73045424
Muslims hate everybody and everybody hates them back, don't try to make it about Christians
>>73046410
>implying Jesus got to know true suffering
What he went through was lightweight compared to the stuff done to war prisoners in recent centuries.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/05/04/abu-sayyaf--hostages-make-plea-for-help-as-captors-release-foota/
>>73048074
>>73047874
>>73047754
>>73047608
>>73047498
>>73047466
THREAD DERAILED
PAJEET, MY SON
>>73048288
She can't win. Sanders is going to run as an Independent. I have insider knowledge.
Say it with me Heretic...
PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
>>73048365
Of course all Muslims think 9/11 was an inside job because
> Islam is the religion of peace and dindu nuffin
>>73046768
>i don't. my mom doesn't. my neighbors don't
Stop lying, pagan. I know your type, I lived among you for years.
Fucking muslims.
>>73047682
>>73047686
>>73047689>>
I'm no longer posting here, this board have no respect for people with other racial and religious backgrounds, all i wanted was to discussion politics with you guys.
But NO
>This guy is a muslim we must all hate him for being different
>>73047977
You know i could say the same about your people, how many have you killed in you pointless wars, vietnam iraq and pakistan, but i don't want to, because i'm not an idiot i know your fault, so instead i want to hear what you have on the matter, but you just ignore for being muslim.
That's the last you see of me.
>>73048599
you need to youtube and television more
>>73046907
Fuck off with that picture. That boy was just an uneducated farmer who didn't even know about the outside world. If anything, those soldiers created more terrorists what with killing innocent civilians and making themselves look like monsters.
>>73048624
i'm not an arab, if that's what you meant.
ugh i wish i wasn't born in a muslim family. internal conflicts are difficult
>>73048074
Google it Indianbro.
https://www.politicalislam.com/tears-of-jihad/
http://pamelageller.com/2011/11/how-many-slaughtered-millions-under-jihad.html/
The exact number may be debatable but the fact is, Islam is a violent religion who kills non-believers. Not compatible with the modern world.
>>73048655
Good. Fuck off, Abdul. Go die in an Airstrike.
Kill yourselves mudslimes
For Islam it was more of a ploy to make converting Christians easier. It's a lot easier to walk up to someone and say "hey, that god you worship, he's totes the same god I worship except here's a lot of new instructions from said god" than it is to say "your god is false, mine is true, convert or die" when you're starting out trying to convert people. Of course, by the time you have significant numbers, it's quicker to just go with the latter.
>>73048084
this is ofc true,but I think the roman empire would have done a better job.
>>73048655
>i know your fault
It's not your fault
I meant
>>73048754
Your current religion promotes nothing but conflict, ours promotes love, two different mindsets, you should convert, I can already see the doubt on you my son.
OP is a faggot and should know better coming from Singapore. That or low bait.
>>73048663
> you need to go on YouTube and watch some 2 hour long conspiracy videos and ignore the government documents saying Saudi Arabia was behind it and all of Islam.
>>73046380
>Christians worship God.Muslims worship Muhammad.
Wrong on both counts - xiand worship the crucified jew (that's why they're xians and not jehovites) and muslims worship Allah which is the arab name of Jehova.
>>73046410
Yea, it is, the only difference is in the profit and it minions that scams you. BTW why would it need to come do to learn something? Isn't it supposed to be all-knowing?
Besides, isn't the entire abrahamic cult a mixof plagiarized babylonian and egyptian stories anyway?
>>73046445
You might want to read your book a gain, because in it even jesus tells its followers to obey it to the last letter.
>>73046698
Really? When have xians proved that even a single thing in their cult is true? As for the rest,
Matthew 5:17 Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfil them.
18 For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished.
19 Therefore anyone who sets aside one of the least of these commands and teaches others accordingly will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
>>73048682
Oh, I'm sorry. Did I trigger you pussy faggot? Here this one has his face blurred out.
>>73048754
Indonesia, i haz a question
Why does your women get all veiled up and shit during everyday life, then they take it off so they can properly suck asing dick in Bali?
Swear, i've fucked a lot of muslim chicks who swore they were big believers and stuff.
Why?
>>73048823
Making a middle eastern religion suited to european beliefs a a fine job done by Romans imo
>>73048962
i don't know, i don't really talk to women. all i know is most people here aren't religious.
>>73048464
Nah, crucifixion remains one of the most horrible ways to die. You're up on the cross for multiple hours or even days, until you die from cardiac or respiratory arrest if you're lucky. If you're unlucky you die later of sepsis or dehydration. All this while a crowd jeers and mocks you.
>>73049006
Said the nigger chink who's religion makes him a woman.
>>73048310
>would you ?
I will if it saves a couple of lives because i'm not a fucking coward faggot "moderate" mudslime who will not do anything just watch several hundred people die because they dont share my sharia beliefs.
>if yes, how ?
By being not a coward. A hundred people saved because 1 person sacrificed himself to kill a suicide bomber or runway with the bomb? I think its worth it.
>>73046768
Your Taqiya does not fool anybody here.
If you are not the one who will kill you are the one who will sheer the killers, your religion is the cancer of this planet, there is litteraly not any other faith in 2016 which is as toxic and intolerant as yours.
>>73048891
The Abrahamic laws are fulfilled with his death.
Accept Christ, and you accept the laws.
>>73049085
i'm not a noble prize winner. i just want to live.
>>73049155
Paris was just a prank bro xD
>>73045641
Mormons and Jehovah's witnesses believe the same thing.
>>73049073
>makes him a woman
Are you drunk yank?
>>73049006
did you say romans brought christianity to Europe?
>>73049155
omg please i'm not even religious. i want to leave this country, so i'm one of you guys, please.
>>73049249
Apostate.
If your brethren are as nonreligious as you say then it's not a problem.
>>73049317
Then convert to Christianity.
>>73049297
Constantine.
>>73049317
Indonesia bro, this board doesn't really like muslims.
Next thread, just start by saying you are a muslim aposthate and that you hate islam so you can get tons of internet friends
ITT neither Muslims nor Christians know how to read their own religious texts.
>Jesus never did anything bad
>Jesus is God
>God in the old testament ordered the deaths of women, children, animals etc.
>"thats the old testament God"
Same God remember
>Well he changed his ways and Jesus was never evil
Nah just racist and asked his disciples to bring the unbelievers to be killed in front of him (NT).
>Why are Muslims wrong?
They aren't, the Hadithists are wrong
>Why?
Because no other Hadiths was the rule, Quran is complete.
Anyway heres some banter.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLry7V_29c4
>>73045837
>>73049356
He only made it fashionable with the Edict of Milan.
>>73045424
>the same god
>>73049297
Constanine is a roman
>>73049325
killing is not one of the religions mission. you say someone is religious when he's avoiding pork and he prays a lot, that's all
>>73049406
There is nothing wrong with being racist.
>>73049498
He was Byzantine.
>>73049356
>Then convert to Christianity.
Punishable by death in majority of Islamic countries.
In indonesia, prison up to two and a half years.
Why does everyone hate Islam? Even BUDDHISTS hate Islam, and something has to be seriously fucked up for Buddhists to hate it.
>>73049406
>Because no other Hadiths was the rule, Quran is complete.
this. hadith was written by some people, hundreds of years after the prophet died. i mean, what ? the quran (the only words of God Himself) doesn't say to follow the hadith. and the violent words are in the hadith
>>73045424
I think the problem is that Christianity went to far to the left, and its followers became complete cucks. Islam went to far to the right and became LITERALLY HITLER. The two religions actually aren't that different; although, some televangelists would like you to believe differently. They also sort of predict the Illuminati's all seeing eye, their anti-Christ "masih al dajjal" only has one eye.
Although, they don't think Jesus is the son of God, so they're heretics, but I think they could be civilized like Mormons.
>>73049534
do you teach your kids to avoid black people too ?
>>73049554
Byzantine isn't an ethnic identification you fucking retard
Secondly he was Filipino
End yourself
>>73049596
i have tons of buddhist friends
>>73049569
Which is why Islamic cancer needs to be eradicated.
Absolutely disgusting. If you have to threaten people with prison for converting, then maybe your religion ksnt that great. Sounds more like a cult to me.
>>73049606
I've heard quite a few people in North Africa who don't follow Hadith actually hate the arab states for doing it. Whats the opinion on hadith from SEA muslims?
>>73049534
Not a very loving God then eh?!
"But those enemies of mine who did not want me to be king over them--bring them here and kill them in front of me.'"
Luke 19:27
And its in all the corrupted Bible versions, unlike some verses which are completely mission in some versions.
>yeah but they're not all important verses
its corruption, and I'd have thought corrupting the concept of Jesus being God would be a rather important thing to not leave out or add in between versions.
>>73049631
Yes.
>>73049498
He made a huge mistake, he was to much about being more famous then he allready was I would say.
>>73045424
>>73045424
hurr hurr never seen a christian and muslim fighting
stop with this crap.
>>73049724
idk i never really talk about religion with people in real life. but i think i'm the only one in this country (or maybe one of fews) that doesn't follow the hadith.
>>73049406
>A hadith (/ˈhædJθ/[1] or /hɑːˈdiːθ/;[2] Arabic: حديث ḥadīṯ, plural: hadithat, أحاديث, ʼaḥādīṯ[3]) is one of various reports describing the words, actions, or habits of the Islamic prophet, Muhammad.[3] The term comes from the Arabic meaning a "report", "account" or "narrative". Hadith are second only to the Quran in developing Islamic jurisprudence,[4] and regarded as important tools for understanding the Quran and commentaries (tafsir) written on it. Many important elements of traditional Islam, such as the five salat prayers, are mentioned in hadith but not in the Quran.
>Different branches of Islam (Sunni, Shia) refer to different collections of hadith, and the small heterodox Quranists reject the authority of the hadith collections.[10][11]
Hadiths were conveniently branded as "not canon" when they realized that worshipping a few books telling you to kill infidels wouldn't have gotten those visas approved
"Wrong" my ass, take that fucking taqqiya out of here.
You will sorely regret the day you started worshipping a dead pedo warlord and his black stone in the desert, traitor
>>73049737
Jesus spoke in riddles and tests.
Did the apostles do this? No? Well then end of lesson.
>>73049746
good whitemanship
>>73046013
>>73045951
Holly shit !! This is a new level of retardation !! ELH2 (bbcs up his throat) and send him the fuck back to 9ditt !
>>73048655
Don't give in to the jew brother
>>73046907
So, what has been your night with Jesus? Has he used lube and a condom? Do you still hale latinos?
>>73047070
Kill yourself BillyBob, because when Trump gets here you'll lose all your EBT cards and Medicaid.
>>73045424
>>73046740
Islam, unlike Christianity, is more than just an ideology, it also provides a juridical system, and the Hadith which concerns how to act in daily situations for example.
Islam creates a society based solely on Islam, whilst Christianity does not.
In that sense, Islam is more dangerous for secular states than Christianity ever could be.
>>73050013
Aw, you salty too?
>>73045508
Pretty much the objective of all civilizations and missionary religions.
>>73045959
>Islam cannot peacefully coexist with any other religion on earth.
1300 years with millions of Christians living under a Caliphate says exactly the opposite.
>>73047977
>270 gorillon
>Source: Bill Warner and Pamela Geller
...Are you retard or what?
>>73049317
I really counter recommend that. Your country has a future.
No developing country can afford to suffer a brain drain.
Except, of course, if you have none. In this case, go ahead.
>>73049406
This, indeed.
>>73049596
It's been said 1 millions times already: they want to conquer the world by force. It is not a religion of peace, and their god's views are nothing like the christian ones.
Hatred is Islam is basically self preservation, the religion needs to die in the way Shinto did. Google 'Humanity Declaration', it's historical proof that destructive religions can be killed; something similar need to happen to Islam.
>>73049194
So what he said lost all importance when he died, got it.
>>73050032
Exactly.
Which is why we don't have violent hindus bombing european capitals, or violent buddhists making suicide bombings
>>73050082
>>73050013
>>73049843
>>73049737
>>73046341
>he's white
>must be a christian!!
Fucking retard shitskin
>>73045424
Why do muslims and muslims hate each other so much when they literally worship the same god?
>>73050032
i don't follow hadith
>>73048655
>complain that everyone hates your shitty beliefs
>gets called out again on your shitty beliefs
>cry more that everyone hates your shitty beliefs
oh gee why are you so opressed!
>>73049851
>implying I have ever believed Hadiths
>"not canon"
Catholic term
>Infidel
Catholic term (that may shock you)
>"Wrong my ass"
But they are, Sunnis don't even claim they are all authentic, which is a retarded thing to say given the story Al-Bukhari gives of how he filtered them down to the genuine ones, thus proving they are all unreliable.
>taqiyya
Shi'ite nonsense word but used by all enemies of Islam as a get out of everything card.
>worship a dead pedo
I assume you mean Muhammad and I don't worship Muhammad, that is the biggest sin in Islam.
>pedo
according to Hadiths
>black stone
nope again, again that is Hadiths
>traitor
traitor to God? Weren't all prophets asking you to pray to God alone?
Nice try, you have nothing I haven't debunked many times before.
>>73050213
/thread
Muslims cannot even live in peace with each other.
Fucking violent retards. Like niggers
>>73050064
Hey, i know you're a redneck used only with fucking his sisters and killing innocents but come on, can't you even see the flag?
>>73050237
so? most muslims do, what's your argument?
>>73050032
>Muh secularism
Natural law is still infinitely superior. It is unfortunate that the West has abandoned it in favor of the law of the masses.
>>73050283
I see a 3rd world flag and a salty gypsy.
>>73050297
i'm so western please accept me in your social circle when i move out of here
>>73050237
Except the Hadith in the Quran of course, the false Hadiths of Al-Bukhari have been nothing but ammo for the enemies of Islam.
>>73050366
But are you Christian ?
>>73045424
>why can't they live in peace
I cannot stress it enough the two religions are fundamentally incompatible. One has to be a falsehood and the other the Truth. They are fundamentally on the opposite spectrum of each other.
You can't co-exist with something that basically calls for non believers to be crushed and killed, to be enslaved and raped, prostituted and made your servants.
The other of course is Christianity.
>>73045424
They really are not compatible. Under sharia blasphemy laws, referring to Jesus as God is punishable.
If you say you don't agree with sharia then it is questionable if you are actually a muslim.
>ELI5
Who is Eli the Fifth? Sounds like some fucking kike.
>>73050533
>if you are actually a Sunni Hadithist
FTFY
>>73050252
so effectively you're saying, 99% of islamic followers are wrong.
Most people worship the Kaaba, most muslims accept the Hadith, most people are either Sunni or Shia and thus adhere to the Hadith.
You can claim that Islam isn't about the Hadith, but just like Communism looks good on paper, in reality, it just doesn't work that way. Communism fails in practice (almost always reduces itself to totalitair socialism), and the same prinicple applies to Islam, it has simply failed itself in practice.
>>73050385
no. do i have to be christian to befriend americans ? what i see from vlogs is that in america, a social circle can consist of people from any backgrounds.
>>73050345
Why does your sister let you use the pc when you haven't cleaned up your trailer? Does she want your kids to live like your cousins?
>>73050571
>who is Eli
A faithless priest of the Old Testament, his sons fugged up and he died of grief.
>>73050533
lol real muslims only listen to what God says, not what some guys say about the prophet, million years after the prophet died. i don't follow the hadith, and i'm a muslim no matter what. i don't need validations from you.
>>73046740
If you believe that, I am fine with it. But for the sake of my life and the security of my country, I am going with the "Around muslims never relax" motto, especialy if they are Arabs. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LSAFcnryoEw
You probably don't understand it, because you are from Indonesia. You are Asian and you are not directly involved with the whole clusterfuck of Middle Eastern politics. That's okay. But I will not mistake some Sufi sages and esoteric poetry by Rumi with the true face of world wide Islam, or its worst sides.
>>73050607
> do I have to be Christian to be welcome in America
If you're not white. Why do you think the Mexicans and Blacks are fucking Christian. Because if they were anything else, they would be hated just like muslims.
>>73050571
don't pretend like you never reddit before
Stay off the kikery dumb faggots.
>>73050735
but what i see from films and vlogs is that there are lots of atheists to in america. and leftist atheist are much more fun and sociable too. and they look better too. when i see liberal vlogs, i say to myself "i want to live there (NYC)"
>>73045424
Not all of us hate each other.
I love my muslim brothers, we are one.
>>73050366
>western
>muslim
Those are mostly incompatible as I've seen from my social circle. Muslims, or foreigners from different cultural families other than the Christian European culture family in general, fail to integrate well within European society, and their children, raised with the failed culture of their parents (if your culture wasn't a failure, why would you move out of your country?) adhere more to their failed culture than to the European culture.
This is more so with the Arabic Islamic culture (the culture inherent to the followers of Islam) since that culture (obviously) has been tied with the religion. With the religion (like christianity) being a collective, people tend to stay in it, thus continously keeping them exposed to Arabic Islamic culture, even in Europe. This also increases their failure to integrate.
>>73046886
Your image reminds me again of how much of prententious, psedo-intellectual cunts most atheists are and I don't like being in their company. But then again atheism isn't a church and I don't like the tendency to turn it into one especially since the Dawkinstards came about.
>>73050328
what the fuck are you on about?
Every western state is secular. I would feel that christian values should be followed as they led us to the point at which we now stand, that is, a succesful western nation.
>>73050599
>so effectively you're saying, 99% of islamic followers are wrong.
I am not their judge but I will leave this for you.
"And the Messenger has said, "O my Lord, indeed my people have taken this Qur'an as [a thing] abandoned."" - 25:30
>Most people worship the Kaaba
Nope, I don't care what you think they are doing, that would be idolatry, the Sunnis do many things that could be seen as idolatry but even Sunnis don't worship the Kaaba.
>most Muslims...
most people voted Cameron thinking he would be a good prime minister, whats your point?
>You can claim that Islam isn't about the HadithS (understand the difference please).
It isn't about the Hadiths to Quran alone Muslims thanks.
Again most does not mean correct, most people thought the Earth was flat at one time.
>Like Communism
I fail to see the point here.
>>73050630
> trailer
This isn't a gypsy camp in Romania. In America, we have things called homes.
>>73046985
That's just Anglos. Do the natives lust for Aryan blood, too now?
pakis are shit and they embrace their shittiness and want to make the world shitty or erase what is good so they dont have to see the goodness and feel inferior
>>73050829
Haha. Those faggots a a tiny minority. Why do you think Trump is speaking for half the country?
If you want to live in a liberal utopia then go to Europe. You will most likely end up getting beaten up on your way home from work if you lived here.
>>73046985
>Rape
>Not Genocide
Fucking leaves can't do anything right...
>>73050954
Your quote, simply means nothing. You, as right as you may think you are, are a minority within your own religion. Convince your fellow muslims before you try to convince me about how non-violent the Islam is.
>>73050213
Over some petty differences that no one gives a fuck about.
>live in muslim family
>debate over the whole sunni shia shit
>ask mom why she doesn't like the shias
>'THEY PRAY ON ROCKS AND THAT'S STUPID'
It's literally a ages old conflict revolving who should have succeded the prophet Mohammed as caliph. I don't understand why it's still a thing.
>>73045610
>modern high def videos of Muslims killing
>OH YEA what about this renaissance painting Spanish inquisition or crusades?
>>73050252
>i'm catholic
I believe in the existence of a higher order in this universe, the meaning of which can be discovered by a rigorous research, both scientific and spiritual.
As such, books written by barely literate people millennia ago have no meaning to me. I cannot take seriously anybody who takes books such as these on face value and blindly follows whatever is written upon them just because he is too lazy or stupid to develop a critical approach.
Organized religions have provided a staple for societies, and has created cultural stability, or at least a certain degree of it. Doesn't mean they hold any degree of truth, doesn't mean their cult figure know what to tell people, and doesn't mean they are useful anymore.
Christianity is based upon the veneration of a man who sacrificed himself on a cross to save the same people that wanted him dead. Eastern religions are based on introspection and scientific research. Islam is based upon the figure of an illiterate pedophile speaking his own delusions, so he could wage war to jewish merchants in the desert.
And it wouldn't be half as bad if it went down the road of secularism, like Judaism did. What you say, or what you think you follow is meaningless. The overwhelming majority of your fellow muslims follow hadiths and believe sharia should be law. Doesn't change the fact that when push comes to stove you would still side with them, regardless of your beliefs and mental gymnastics.
Which is why i advocate the unconditional and total removal of kebabs, wherever they are. Especially against those born in secular societies that willingfully abandon their secular culture to embrace death cults encouraging totalitarian societies. They are the ones acting as poster boys for islam in EU, they are the ones encouraging this bullshit that islam is peaceful and superior, they are by far the most toxic elements and if it was for me, they would be rotting in jail for being treasonous scum
>>73047505
>Abo ashamed of his root detected
>>73051147
> I don't understand why it's still a thing
Um, because Muslims are fucking retarded?
>Americans still butthurt about 9/11
You basically like jews at this point
>>73050875
but not me, i promise. i don't even pray. i don't even listen to local music. i adopt all my mannerism from american talk shows and films. when i decide to move to a country, of course i will assimilate. if i don't love the culture, why would i move in ?
>>73051053
those faggots are attractive. i never seen any attractive right wing girls, so that's enough reason to be leftist when i move out
>>73045424
>jesus is in the koran too you know
Ragheads teach that the Jesus who died at Golgotha was not the son of God. They say it was an imposter, and that the Resurrection never happened. Their religion is not in coordination with Christian beliefs. Anyone who tells you otherwise is either uninformed (most SJWs), or straight out lying (taqiya).
>>73050946
Is, now. Not was.
The very civilizational formation of the West is Christian and jusnaturalist.
That's what tamed the barbarian hordes, and that's what has built a strong civilization.
>>73045424
>>73051324
Well no right wing girl would ever sleep with an ex-muslim so okay.
>>73051247
> if i don't love the culture, why would i move in ?
For most of the refugees: free money
>>73051121
>the Islam
Once you understand why "Islam" is never mentioned once in the Quran and what "Islam" actually means in its literal sense you are not speaking of 'my' religion at all, I have no religion, I am a Muslim that practices Islam with the Quran.
If that confuses you then don't respond as I will not explain it to you as Google is your friend.
>>73051147
>I don't understand why it's still a thing.
Because those who claim to be Muslims are following Hadiths and supposed lineage both of which are forbidden in the Quran.
That's the problem with geographically based cultures being put in front of Quran.
"The only duty of the messenger is to deliver the message." 5:99
>>73050367
>Except the Hadith in the Quran of course, the false Hadiths of Al-Bukhari have been nothing but ammo for the enemies of Islam.
>enemies of Islam
you meant the enemies islam makes, if you goat fuckers stayed in your sand desert we had no problems
>>73051398
but i'm not a refugee, i have money, am a college student, my parents are rich, they provided me with internet which americanized and westernized me. we're talking about me, not refugees. i hate refugees too, don't worry.
>>73045424
Things were going pretty ok if it werent for French and their tendency to ruin everything good they've done
>>73045424
it's in [around] the head, m8
