If you truly hate the path the west has taken and want it to change or to crumble because of what it has become. Than you should support China. China is the only country that has the power and might to fight off the west. The main reason is because it doesn't play the west's rules. It's totally against it. It seems as China doesn't want to budge. And doesn't give in to the west as easily as other countries.
Long Live East Asia!
Long Live East Asia!
Long Live East Asia!
Enjoying Canada, Wilbur Chen?
>>72127710
China needs to get its shit together, the potential is there, stop depending on western money and git gud.
China cannot fight off the west right now. They only appear to be able to fight off the west because the west is led by a weakling right now. If a true leader gets in office; China will be crushed
>>72127710
Asian slave with no rights detected.
>>72129418
>stop depending on western money
These things will change. It just takes time. It's a country with three times the population of USA. It takes a damn long time and many difficulties will come if they want to change anything. Like always it just takes time. But I can see them following their own path/way than just being another sheep following the west.
>>72129790
Oh please. To be honest I'd actually like that. That means they'd be trying to out do each other. And make their countries better.
>>72131132
It will be very interesting to see when/if we get a President with a dick. The military is already preparing for China. If Trump gets in office it will be brutal. He will crush China
>>72131635
In all honest it's almost impossible to know how the future will play out. One thing we do know is China now a player in world politics. And China does not want to play by the west's rules. Which I like. I never got why everyone has to become like the west. Everyone has their own culture and values. Value them.
>>72131956
>inb4 muh white supremacy
Just because they're not entirely public with their degeneracy doesn't mean they aren't all culutureless heathens
>>72131956
If China wants to play by their very aggressive rules with the West then they will be squashed. They can bully the small nations around them but that's it
>>72132124
Yea but that doesn't mean much. We know for a fact that the Chinese are in control of their own country and it's direction. Do the elites abuse and use to lower class? Yes, to some extent. Is it for the greater good yes.
I just hate it when if any other country does something out of the norm the whole country and it's get labelled what ever that incident was. Whether that incident be racism, abuse, lying, degeneracy. But if America does it it's just an incident and not every American is like that. Which is the correct way to look at it. Than at least look at other countries like that too.
>>72133367
>country and it's people get labelled
>>72131635
>He will crush China
>>72132253
>they will be squashed
Merikans... Trump has more sense than he likes to give out, specifically to get the votes of your sort. He'll fix the situation, but the aim is to get a more level playing field. China is of immense value as a partner, and will remain so once the idiotic current masochistic policies are reversed.
>>72132253
They both need each other and the know it. If i were to say which one needs the other less. I'd guess it be China.
>>72127710
China is a full on malicious dictatorship.
China only exists for materialism now.
>>72134701
Lucky bastards. Beats Ficki Ficki or Ferguson any day.
>>72134792
No. They have nationalism too. And the Party has had enough sense to tap into very old national currents in fostering this. China remains as Confucian as ever.
To be honest, I can think of few spiritual systems more beneficial than ancestor worship. Kind of what we would have if we'd been left to figure things out for ourselves instead of exposed to so much Semitic influence.
>>72134624
Why do merikans need china? They're only useful to corporations because cheap labor. How do they help us muricans whatsoever?
>>72135051
But they also have a severe gender ratio imbalance, a high rate of female suicides, rising labor unrest, a skewed old-to-young ratio, and face 4 separatist movements (Tibetan, Hong Kong, Taiwan, and Uighur).
>>72127710
I live in China and I can say this is partially true. China's politicians are staunchly against the West and oppose it fervently....BUT there is a big problem. Cultural Marxism is taking root in the youth of China (trust me, im a teacher here) and the government is aware of it, and trying to stop it. They have recently raised the teachings of Marx to "religious document" status, hoping that people learning the morals of Marx will stop the coming Cultural Marxism. It will not, though, which is obvious. So, China currently opposes the west, but will fall to the West's ideology within 30 years.
>>72133579
This. Trump is a businessman. He probably had dealt with Chinese people more than anybody else in general. He's pragmatic, China is still an important economic tool.
>>72135541
How is China good for the American economy?
>>72135575
Because it's still a hugefuck market where Murricans can sell their products, maybe?
Because you can push forward your brands onto a billion people?
I mean, even your fucking KFC depends more than 50% of its business on China. China alone brought in 23 billion USD for KFC. It's fucking powerful.
And that's only some fried chicken. Sure, the chicken is born and raised in China, but it still brings in cash for you. Think about other more relevant stuff. Like your Boeing planes (10 billion USD for one Chinese airline alone, and there are at least 30 Chinese airlines willing to order a fuckload of planes) among other things.
We (France) sold shitload of luxury items to them, with Airbus planes, and so on. China is a huge buyer of Western goods.
>>72135274
These are not insurmountable problems, and when you're a "malicious dictatorship" they're rather easier to tackle than otherwise!
>>72135100
>>72135575
It's an enormous market. Use your fucking brains.
>>72135486
Recognising a problem is at least one step on the way to solving it. I hope they wean themselves off this Marx stuff, though. They really don't need it. I've seen other stuff that emphasises older Chinese cultural continuity, though.
>>72135486
Yeah I agree. Older generations are very cynical towards the West, they asked me why the fuck we let rapefugees in.
Younger generation is a pain in the ass though. But it's still alright, you can still redpill one. I have a Chinese intern, she did travel abroad, but that's it. Quite naïve, and got redpilled quickly when I went full /pol/.
The worst one are those who study abroad though, they went full SJW, and spread their cancer among their friends. But the good news is, they are also very likely to renounce their Chinese citizenship as soon as they can acquire a Western one. And China isn't too unforgiving towards ex-Chinese.
>>72136352
forgiving*, instead of unforgiving, my bad.
>>72134701
The west only thinks that's a bad thing. If there is a strong enough sense of nationalism and actually stick together it's much better than muh freedom. That's why when China decides to do something it does it at a much faster rate and with full force because they can. They don't have the crap that America has to go through before they do anything.
>>72136049
>>72135575
I would actually say that trade with China is not very good for the US (Im American). China is the most economically protectionist country you could ever imagine. The Great Firewall is not primarily for censoring information, but for preventing Chinese people from using already developed American websites, thus sending ad revenue to American businesses instead of Chinese businesses.
As an aside, most Chinese people are aware of the Tienanmen Square incident (and they know the truth about it) as well as Taiwan and other topics we in America are told are "politically hot/subdued" topics in China.
Back on topic, I do not think China will ever make a trade deal with America that will benefit America monetarily. They are currently attempting to reorganize their economy to self-sufficiency, instead of an export-based economy. So, although China's exports are decreasing, it is intentional, and the economic slowdown was expected as part of this transition (but the slowdown has been bigger than expected, for sure.) China's government figures that their middle class of nearly half-a-billion is large enough now that they do not need to sell things outside the country and continue to make it vulnerable. Instead, the focus is on bringing investors' money into China, instead of exporting items out.
Hope this helps make sense of the whole situation a bit better for you.
>>72137286
Kek. As a chink I would whole-heatedly support any of the above posters to be the next POTUS. They would totally hand the dominance of US into China.
> Fair trade
I think white ppl are indeed honorable. But the world does not work like this. I guess that is why jews are forever parasites for the west.
>>72134701
I thought this was true as well when I came to China. I hid my Bible inside clothes in my suitcase, etc. I live in the poorest province in China, in a small town (which is even poorer), and almost everyone in this town (which is almost half a million people) is richer than my friends and family back home. No one here has debt. It takes 4-5 years to BUY a house (usually a 3-5 room apartment) and paying for a year of higher education costs roughly 1 month's salary (3000 RMB average for non-megacity folk).
You may notice that 3000 RMB a month is only 500 bucks a month in America. But I assure you that 500 bucks here (small town of half a million) goes about the same distance as about $3500 goes in the US. Everything is just so cheap.
>>72127710
China was nothing n hitlers time, if hitler were alive today he would accept Chinese hegemony over the world over the jew
>>72137286
With the population that they have it should be easy for them to make and sell to themselves. They just need popular names like the west has. There isn't much of a brand in China. It's just all generic things.
>>72137984
Curious. What is the urban environment like? At all pleasant to live in? (I've lived in the Soviet Union, and actually liked the post-war estates with their big open courtyards and trees and kids's play areas everywhere, btw, though I'm aware things may be different in China)
>>72137851
>I think white ppl are indeed honorable
There might be some truth to this. But let's not fool ourselves. America like any other country tries to always get the advantage. Whether it's in the open or behind our backs.
Just like the whole TPP fiasco that's going on now.
>>72137851
>I guess that is why jews are forever parasites for the west.
>>>72136049
And China is part of the solution to it.
>>72137851
>I think white ppl are indeed honorable
We're just in a bad phase. Don't worry, we'll be forcing our opium on you again soon! ;)
>>72138299
Not him obviously, but yeah, in many apartment complexes there are playgrounds for children and also for elderly people so they can exercise.
Like pic related
Btw I work in China, both in Beijing and in a second tier city.
>>72138617
Lol fun fact my ancestor was one of the hero who wrecked the Opium.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guan_Tianpei
China has a hatred towards drugs more than any other nations in the world.
China's system should be a model for the world when in 20 years Chinese people live better than westerners.
>>72131635
no he won't. the most he'll do is cause nuclear armageddon. china will launch nukes if what you propose happens. then usa will retaliate, then russia will join in and it'll all cascade down from that into fallout or mad max.
>>72139075
I don't think there is a "best" system. Chinese have an ant like mindset which is very different from the west.
The problem current western society suffers is due to the heartless jews. They really screwed you for good.
In the future if controllable nuclear fusion becomes a reality then nothing fucking matters anymore because there would be limitless resources.
>>72127710
Vancouverite detected.
>>72139194
Chinese people have lived in the same political system for 10,000 years and had writing long before many Europeans.
>>72139075
The west will never accept that. They will lose their muh superiority. And they will never want to be behind the Chinese man.
>>72139737
I accept my new confuscian masters over these Jewish Marxist morals and systems.
>>72139737
Thats a good thing. The whites invent things. The Chinese copy and mass produce. Arabs bomb and niggers grab.
>>72139938
Confucian is cuck to your country and elderly. Imagine some old dickhead triggers you with nonsense but you can only reply with "yess... grandpa...".
>>72127710
China is future. Ethno centric and assetive. Next century will be the yellow mans if whites dont get their shit together.
>>72139465
which doesn't change the fact that if usa tries to attack china, it'll escalate into a nuclear war.
>>72139970
and jews steal shekels from everyone above mentioned while crying holocaust.
>>72140143
If grandpa was confuscianist then he would be doing his grandpas will, anyways all Europeans are naturally reveer ancestors if not indoctrinated to forsake their ancestor consciousness
https://youtu.be/g8fmG-p-DlQ
>>72127710
>We're now the Jews.
The dirty little secret as to why wars of expansion don't happen anymore is because lack of a viable external enemy presents greater political risk and instability; precisely what the ruling class tries to avoid in various countries around the world.
This is why all these civil wars tend to start and why ultimately the Western world's armament industry and Eastern world's political establishment have a synergistic relationship with one another.
Or, i'm just really cynical.
>>72140143
Better than the fucking American faggots who think they're the hot shit and can say or do anything. The Chinese way brings some order and respect. I understand it's not for everyone and some want their muh freedom. But the Chinese way brings people closer and tigher as a nation.
>>72140177
You know if it is its time to jump ship. Whenever something this big happens it's always best to be on top of it instead of actually tagging along when China has already lifted off to the moon.
>>72138299
>>72138692
The picture of the exercise equipment is pretty accurate. Every park, and playground has this type of equipment for public use. Its hilarious to see these old men doing sit-ups on parallel bars and whatnot.
Im not at all familiar with what the Soviet Union was like, I only know what Ive read and have no idea how accurate that even is.
What I can say is that Chinese cities are different than anything you have probably seen. The Chinese are experts as taking up less space than necessary. The sidewalks in my town are as big as the roads, and you can walk everywhere. There is no need for a vehicle in daily life, at all. Also, a taxi, anywhere in the city is only 5 RMB (80 American cents). The smaller towns, despite a population of half a million or more are exactly that, though, towns.
For example, in my town, there is 1 cinema, as far as I am aware of. Most of the vendors have small shops, of which most other shops are nearly identical variations within the same category. (This restaurant has stir fry and offers 20+ items plus lotus root, but the restaurant beside them is identical, but instead of lotus root, their different food item is potatoes.)
You will see little restaurant carts everywhere, and farmers from outside the city sit on the side of the road trying to sell their produce (which is delicious!). The markets are enormous, with literally 100+ pig butchers beside each other, stall after stall.
I say all this to say that despite the large number of people, the variance within the town is very small. If you like warm, weak beer, or moonshine, you will likely love the drinking scene in China, which is enormous and cheap. I personally do not care for either, but most expats do.
Overall, I really like the urban environment, but you have to get over certain things. China is under perma-construction, children poop on the sidewalk, etc. But they do clean the streets every morning.
>>72140177
But America's too far away, and Europe will have been taken over by the Muslims by then.
If they intend to "acquire" things, then by necessity they will need to run afoul of those other groups that aren't western; because we have a nice little ocean flanking both sides.
>>72141250
Hehe, we have the old-people's exercise things in Spain now too.
Your comments on scale and transport seem to echo the Russian situation. I always meant to go to China after Russia, but never quite got round to it. Ah well!
>>72141250
Not sure if Chinese shill or not.
What if China starts becoming more rich? Wouldn't that increase all of the relative prices?
>China is under perma-construction, children poop on the sidewalk, etc
A lot of people try to shit on (no pun intended) china about these things. And try to bring it down. But these are all social problems. And I believe they're one of the easiest problems to solve. Why hasn't China solved them? I have no idea. If I has to guess it would be because China has other major thing thing to solve. It doesn't really care much about it's image yet. It's still trying to play the catch up game. Once it catches up. I have no idea where they'll go.
please dont let China be ruined by western degeneracy. I want to move back to my ancestral homeland and stay in a tiny mountain village when I get old
>>72141616
I think this needs to be said. From a western point of view, all Chinese people appear poor. That is because they do not handle their property and stuff the way we do in America. So China is a prime target for "poverty porn", even when most of them are richer than Americans. They do not mind dirt, ESPECIALLY on the outside of a house. So everything looks like shit from the outside unless its new. But the inside may or may not be extremely nice. And whether they decide to leave their floor a barren grey concrete and walls with phosphorescence coming out VS. putting beautiful tiles down and covering the walls in nice wallpaper is not usually decided by money, but how much the individual values how their place looks.
This is very contrary to America where we like everything to look nice, and it is hard to fathom not making your place look nice if you got the money, but for them it is just cultural.
So, in effect, they look poor because they have a enough money and most t\everything they reasonably desire. And thats how it is in my town, which is considered super poor. Id love another Chinese guy to put his two cents in on this as well from a megacity.
>>72141726
Wages would be subsidized for higher wages and they will keep the same relative price I believe.
>>72141726
The prices are already much MUCH higher than 10-15 years ago.
I remember back then in the 90s you could have a nice meal for as low as 1 USD (with a shitload of meat), in a nice fancy place. Now it's at very least 5 USD (again, in a nice place, not luxury, but not small cheap to go restaurant).
And it's already much cleaner than in the 90s again. They don't get solved too quickly because peasants overtook cities now, and they are still stuck with their peasant way of life, which is shitting in the wheat field.
Pure bred city folks have already solved that, they teach their kids to shit in a potty, and they also make them wear nappies.
Peasants still don't know what are nappies.
For an example, I grew up in China (my parents were expats and my dad had to work there), and more than 20 years ago they couldn't find nappies easily, even in a prosperous second tier city. They could only find some in ONE single department store.
Nowadays, every single supermarket sells them, and pure bred city folks exclusively use them.
There's a much stronger social and cultural divide between peasants and city people than in the West. There really are drastic differences.
>>72141169
The Chinese literally just kidnapped 45 Taiwanese people from Kenya because they didn't like the trial results and tortured them to confession.
>>72141726
Nah, im not a Chinese shill.
I have no idea about prices going up if China gets richer. My understanding of economics is rather poor. As far as I understand it though, they just pegged their Yuan to gold so that their currency wont succumb to that problem the way fiat currencies do. No idea if it will work, but I wont be living here by the time that would matter anyways.
As for the social problems, I dont think China wants to fix them. Its really strange to us, but their culture has ways of handling it and cleaning it up. The real PR problem is when Chinese tourists go to other countries and start hocking spitwads on the ground and having their kids crap in the street.
As a sidenote, few things are funnier than seeing a little Chinese baby wrapped up like a marshmallow in winter, but his red penis hanging out his split-crotch pants in the dead of winter. You cant help but feel sorry for the pitiful kid.
>>72133579
Spain on point as usual
>>72142908
Interesting, I had no idea.
>>72143109
It will be awesome when China starts to care about their workers lifestyles and begins to care about the environment. It'll be awfully shameful when a weaker currency who doesn't care about the rights of its citizens starts exporting stuff to China : ^)
although i agree with you
>flag
>>72141250
>children poop on the sidewalk
you must live in a poorer region/countryside
>>72143109
Yea I've got to admit it's the Chinese tourists that give China a very bad name where ever they go. As far as I've heard the Chinese government actually tells the Chinese people to not certain things when in other countries. So I guess they do care their image abroad.
The social problems might just be solved my themselves with time. It's a country three times of America. It takes a whole of time to change the peoples minds and lifestyles.
>>72142908
>There's a much stronger social and cultural divide between peasants and city people than in the West.
I think it has to do with the sheer size of their country and their population. Those things will get solved eventually. A country changing from a peasantry country to one where it can play world politics takes a while for it's people to change.
>>72144189
As stated before, I live in the poorest province in a small town (about half a million people). So, yes, you are spot on. I don't really have much experience with the bigger cities in China yet, but I can say the people there seem unhappier and busier. Yet everyone in my town wishes they could live in a big city, but their family is here so they will stay here.
>>72142908
How did it feel being white in the middle of billions of chunks?
>>72144481
I'm going to go steal a qt chinese
>>72142349
I totally understand that Chinese people have a different culture and lifestyle versus the Americans. But has to be better than the other. Me who has lived his whole life in the west would say that having your house clean is good because of bacteria and it gives a good image of how organized you are. Not sure if that makes sense.
>>72144300
I know this from the news:
China GREATLY cares about its international image outside of China. That is to say, if a Chinese citizen embarrasses China when touring other countries, they will have the passport revoked and possibly face a fine and/or jail time. Also, China does not tolerate foreigners, especially Americans, being harmed or killed while in China. You have a special status, in which if you are killed, there will be hell to pay for a LOT of people. For example, if I die when hiking up the nearby mountain on my own, my school's principal will be held accountable for not keeping me safe. Im not sure what all that exactly entails, but I hope for both mine and his sakes, neither of us find out!
>>72142985
What does that have to do with anything?
>America tortured...
>>72144459
>but I can say the people there seem unhappier and busier
It's like that in any major mega city.
>Yet everyone in my town wishes they could live in a big city
Again same like every where else.
>The grass is greener...
>>72144459
You work as an English teacher in China? Does it pay good? Why did you do it?
I talked to a chinese friend of mine. He said that China was always soft on the outside (friendly against the west) but hard on the inside (Harsh against citizens) don't know if it's true. So he approved the disputes about the south Chinese sea.
>>72144904
Do people there understand that governments are always corrupt?
>>72145051
>Better than the fucking American faggots who think they're the hot shit and can say or do anything
Going to another country and kidnapping their people is exactly that. That is ignoring how they act in the asian area too
>>72144481
Got used to it.
When I was a kid, I was literally the only white kid in a huge part of the town. I was a superstar, every Chinese women would say I am cute and adorable, they give me shit for free, ask me many questions about everything, and jokingly (or maybe not, who knows) ask me to marry their daughters when I grow up. It also helps because I can speak Mandarin, since I was raised there since I was 1 year old. Hell, I spoke Mandarin and English before French (I spoke French when I was 8 only).
Also, back then in the 90s, I was either American or Russian, because the only tourists they'd get were Russians, and the only businessmen they'd see were Americans.
Nowadays, in a big city like Beijing or Shanghai, people would still notice you if you're very tall or handsome, but otherwise nobody gives a crap because there are so many expats.
However in 2nd tier cities, people would follow you with their eyes because it's still uncommon to see whitey.
>>72144700
I completely agree. Thats why the first thing I did was make my house quite American. I fixed the floors, curtains, etc. And now when my (Chinese) friends come over they are always surprised by how good it looks, because it is unusual for the Chinese to organize their house like a westerner.
I will say that Chinese plates, utensils, etc. are bacterially clean. They just dont mind a layer of dust/dirt on the floor.
Heres an anecdote from my school as an example of "Chinese cleanliness".
When the school day ends, students mop the entire school....WHILE all of the students are leaving the school and walking through the hallways. So the floors are now wet and being walked over by thousands of dirty shoes. But they do this every day, so it never gets dirtier than it is.
Very strange, yes? I agree.
>>72144904
Maybe this is the case on paper? Because Chinese tourists still have one of the worst reputations.
If China really starts cleaning up some of it's problems. Especially the ones that the west constantly repeat like a meme. Which I personally think is just propaganda. They'd get a big jump forward.
>>72145120
>He said that China was always soft on the outside (friendly against the west) but hard on the inside (Harsh against citizens) don't know if it's true
Many Asian countries are like that.
>>72145317
>Do people there understand that governments are always corrupt?
I've heard it's the whole "Other people should shut up about criticizing our country and should worry about themselves." But they do criticize their government between themselves. They just don't like western people saying anything about their country.
>Going to another...
Like I said, I know it's a shitty thing to do. But just picking an incident to make China look bad is childish. I can choose a shit done of stuff the US has done.
>>72145452
I've heard Chinese people say cleaning your house takes the good luck away? That's why they don't want to clean their house or restaurants so much.
>>72145120
It pays about $1000 a month, but only 10 months a year. Cost of living is very cheap though, check my above posts for more detail. Depending on the school or agency you go through you can get more or less money. Also, demand airfare allowance/reimbursement at the end of 1 year as part of the contract.
I did it because of the pay, the experience, and I am Christian. Ill leave the rest to your inference.
>>72145317
Yes and no. It seems most Chinese people really like the federal government and think it is good, but they think provincial and city governments are corrupt. But their complaints are small in my opinion compared to American political grievances. They talk about half of the money for road construction to a rural village being pocketed by the mayor, and that it "hurts the heart". Whereas Americans have the issue of being looted by banks and living under a phenomenal propaganda machine that pretends that democracy exists and controls the people mindset. Im do not know if China has equal level of propaganda, but I can say that it seems more honest to me.
Just my opinion.
>>72145565
http://www.popsci.com/chinas-new-security-dalek-is-bad-idea
>>72146310
>and I am Christian
No disrespect, but please don't spread that in China. China is doing great without it.
>>72146619
But Christianity is overtaking China.
China will be in fact the largest Christian nation in the world by 2020.
>>72146619
Christianity has nothing to do with anything "western" today.
>>72146619
They need to either quit trying to militarize the South China Sea or get out before Obama leaves office. It will be a bad look when they have to walk it all back
>Atheist
Atheism is great in communist countries. You'll do well there
>>72145416
Wow, interesting
>>72146310
Easy to meet Chinese girls?
>>72127710
>Western civilization is bad goyim
Fuck off
>>72139737
The west is already behind arabs in terms of sustainability.
>>72146619
Im not sure how big your red pill is, but please first consider cultural marxism. The end result of Cultural Marxism is all the LBGTQs and feminist activists and all other SJWs are executed. Look up Yuri Bezmenov for more information. China is trying to fight it with Marxist values and losing. Putin, a man who worked on spreading Cultural Marxism to America even admits that religious morality is necessary to prevent its rise and eventual destruction of a society.
Christianity is growing in China at incredible rates, and the question that the Communist party will inevitably have to answer is whether or not they fear the unknown of embracing Christianity or the known destruction of Cultural Marxism.
Personally, I am fond of people, even LGTBQs and SJWs, and if spreading Christianity stops them from being executed behind a wall in the future, then I will do what I can to protect them.
>>72146808
It could be the seed for degeneracy. The jews are very sneaky. After all there are so much subtle hints and values hidden in Christianity that it would be hard to reconcile with China.
>>72146988
There going to constantly push until someone steps up. just like what America is doing to the world. Every country does this if they can get away with it.
>>72127710
Who says I don't support the Chinese? It's funny watching them and Russia and the west fight each other
>>72147378
well, at least we know what awaits anita and zoe in the future, especially if the whole world goes communist like the globalists want.
>>72147055
Spreading the degeneracy to China. Your place is full of whores and stoners what else do you need?
>>72147132
What the west has become. Than yes it is.
>>72147374
You can't really cut your self from the world and still be a superpower. Trade is part of the game.
>>72147378
>Im not sure how big your red pill is, but please first consider cultural marxism.
Not well versed. Would have to read up some on this.
>the known destruction of Cultural Marxism.
If that were the case wouldn't already be happening? Or is it something that happens later on? If yes, than why not hold on to where they are now? It's been working after all.
>>72129790
>USA USA USA
>>72135575
It's one of your biggest trade partners and a huge market for american products. I bet you're one of those retards buying up ammo in bulk in preparation of the """imminent""" chinese invasion kek.
>>72148418
Cultural marxism, and atheism are both tactics that the communists use to gain control. If communists are already in control in China then I guess it may be another person trying to take over?
I think the degeneracy is just something that comes as your society becomes more free/well developed
>>72127710
>Couldn't even beat rice farmers
They are no better than us.
>>72148786
The United States does not need China
>>72127710
>PRC
>Not degenerate
>>72148418
The simple answer is simply that those who took "the long journey through the institutions" to indoctrinate generations in Cultural Marxism do not want it to stay in its current condition. Nor is the current condition tenable. Consider yourself. You clearly dislike Christianity. But you also probably support LGBTQ and perhaps even feminism or Black Lives Matter (less likely). Yet, there is a whole generation of people like you that hold the same values as you, and while hating Christianity, they accept Islam, despite Islam being categorically worse in every category that they hate Christianity for.
This type of Orwellian double-think leads to an inherently unstable society that sits on the edge of destabilization. It leads people to say that they defend free speech, except hate speech. Although I agree hate speech is terrible, the moment you begin limiting free speech, it becomes selective speech. Thus the leftists of "tolerance" begin using the power of the state (at the end of a barrel of a gun, because that is how all state laws are enforced). Thus the "tolerant" individuals begin using the power of the gun to limit the freedoms of those who do not agree with their "tolerance".
This, by definition, is a form of fascism. Silencing others of different opinions because those opinions are "offensive". This leads to an authoritarian police state, which always turns against the SJWs who they used to attain their power.
And even if it didnt turn, its logical conclusion is fascist suppression of religious individuals, which *should* also be considered wrong under leftist ideology.
>>72127710
Canada truly has a Chink infestation problem don't they...
>>72148848
The West is trying to actively spread it to China. Or more accurately, the (((merchants))) are, with some help from CIA etc. So it's not another faction trying to take over, although that may be part of it also. But it's certainly an external threat first and foremost.
Can someone link the recent news story about that merchant that was spreading the ads made with some serious $$$ that called for empowerment of chinese single women with all the usual Western 3rd wave feminist bullshit on social media?
Here's a chart describing the process of breaking down society with this cancer.
>>72149936
Only in the west. Especially Hongcouver and Richmond.
>>72127710
I have to agree, China truly is based compared to the cucked state of Western civilization at the moment.
Reference their ruthless suppression of their local sand niggers (the Uyghurs).
>>72150132
Keep an eye out for Mongolia in the coming years btw
>>72150132
It is amazing to get to actually WATCH the indoctrination occur. It appears they have only been at it for maybe 3-5 years in the education system here. It is sinister to see it happening, as this rather peaceful nation, which is unified as one people are beginning to break apart. Children are beginning to oppose their parents, saying things like "our generation is different from theirs", but the adults talk about how this type of language is completely new. And in lieu of the typically happy kids who love and adore their parents, you start seeing kids who oppose their parents' "older way of thinking" and "less knowledgeable" opinions.
The terrible family unit we are used to in the West is completely unknown here, until the introduction of Cultural Marxism. Watching how it causes children to turn against their parents, and how it causes people to become aggressive against their peers who hold different opinions. Its crazy.
>>72150921
Shame
>>72146697
Oh my, China might have as many as 150 million Christians by 2020. That's... let's see...
Oh, yeah, TEN percent of the population.
>>72150613
What's so special about Mongolia?
Is the animal cruelty and lack of empathy for other people thing a meme?
>>72127710
If you hate Chinese people then you should donate money to the gangster government in Beijing. Nobody hates Chinese people more or does more to kill the Chinese people. Know why we don't talk more about the Rape of Nanking? Because Mao made it look like a tea party.
>>72151707
US navy wants to become friendlier with Mongolia
>>72150921
The Merchant Is Your Misfortune.
Do not take his advice. Everything we suffer now is a direct resut of Them.
>>72150921
Really sad. But just like cancer once it touches you and spreads it's really hard to stop it. I wonder sometimes how they can stop this spread. It's obvious the west is trying to infiltrate culturally. It's the only way they can topple China.
>>72152005
Fucking Yankees. Can't mind their own business.
you destroyed the petro dollar, along with our economy, whats your end game china.
>>72152317
J edgar hoover called communism a disease. Seriously read "masters of deceit"
It's from 1959 I think and you could just change the names and dates. You'd swear it was today but today communists have a serious foothold (obama)
>>72127710
fuck off chink you are no better
>>72152389
$5.3 trillion goes through the south china sea every year in exports. China is partially to blame for what will happen to them
>>72151757
>American farms
>All Americans are souless
So, yes it is a meme. But there is some animal cruelty just like it is in America. The lack for empathy I can't say much. Only thing is that it's a different culture. You have to be careful about that.
>China is the only country that has the power and might to fight off the west.
Oh so I want China to grow strong to stop the West from becoming ... China. Yeah ... nah.
>>72152523
Yea, but China's system isn't full on Commumism. It's totally different. It might have started from Communism but it's taken a different route.
>>72152626
>China is good at business
>China is to blame
I don't get your logic
>>72152412
I'm sure they have something figured out. They probably will start selling to themselves. Creating a self-maintaining society.
>>72152928
Sorry I actually wasn't even referring to China at all with that post, just communism/marxism. I was moreso referring to western society. Here's one Screenshots from the book. Obama is a damn communist also, it's crazy
>>72153107
All of that money isn't china. There are multiple countries.
>>72152761
You do realize that the Chinese system of today is one party controlled political system with STATE CAPITALISM as the economic system? It's basically National Socialist Germany of the 30's without the racial theories. Why did you think the merchants hate them so much and are trying to subvert their culture the best they can?
>>72151402
10 percent is a lot, especially when 20 years ago it wasn't even 1%.
You wouldn't react the same if Murrica becomes 10% muslim, right.
>>72150921
Again, your only contribution is to redpill them, especially those who are not studying overseas. I still go full /pol/ when I'm in China and they always agree with me. Yeah, one at a time, but since I also work for influential Chinese people, let's just hope it helps.
That's why it's not so bad that their main concern is shitting in the street after all. At least they are still busy with legitimate issues such as poverty or how many more hospitals should they build instead of looking at their own dicks and asking themselves whether it's a vagina or not.
>>72153553
State capitalism?
China treats dogs like shit and that's the highest form of sub human degeneracy.
I hope China gets hit with a meteor and everyone there dies.
>>72153530
Could you elaborate? I'd like to learn more how China is stealing? money from other countries.
>>72153959
>he doesn't know that Chinks literally and deliberately crash their cars into restaurants that ban dogs
Chinks can become batshit insane for their little puppers too.
>>72154064
They're setting up so that they can control the south china sea trade routes. We consider that international water and free navigation area. Them setting up anti air technology and military jets is very threatening to us and free trade. China is very aggressive when we do our freedom of navigation areas. China will likely be found to be violating international law in a month or so which they said they won't listen to.
>>72154416
Not so different from what the US did to the Caribbeans in the early 20th century.
Economically wise, it's not the same scale.
Geopolitcally, it's almost identical.
There's an excellent book about it.
>>72153778
>At least they are still busy with legitimate issues such as poverty or how many more hospitals should they build instead of looking at their own dicks and asking themselves whether it's a vagina or not.
I think this hits the nail head on. They know what their goal is and do anything to achieve it.
>>72154625
Well the US will stop china. China is lucky Obama is in office right now. Our admiral has said he wants to be more aggressive
>>72153837
Normal capitalism but used as a tool of the state, instead of a goal in itself (like in globalism), in China this works in the way that the state owns the majority of all the vital infrastructure, MEDIA, BANKS and some major companies. But people are generally allowed to run their companies, large and small, as they want.
The highlighted industries being in state control is the key, and something that the (((merchant))) can't stand because he has almost 100% control of those industries in the West, especially in your country. Pic related.
>>72153553
I have been curious about this. This does not feel anything like what I expected Communism to feel like. I have refrained from saying this, because I dont want to sound like a shill, but I feel more free in China than any country I have ever been in. I do not feel like Im being watched, or even that the government gives a damn about what I am doing. It honestly feels like the government has the interest of its citizens at the forefront.
But, thats all feelings, so I err on the side of caution. So, could you explain to me how, and why you say china is state capitalism/national socialism?
>>72154773
you do realize getting aggressive with china will result in a war, that will eventually escalate into nuclear?
a war that usa is prophesied to lose.
>>72153959
>What is American farms?
>>72154384
I think you go something wrong there
>>72154416
Oh got it thanks. Again it's all poltics. Every strong country will try to push their limits as much as they can. Doesn't make it correct but when you see America doing the same shit everywhere. You kind of get a feeling that America should mind it's own business. That's what China has been doing for the decades.
>>72154625
Care to say which book?
>>72155064
USA would win
>>72155200
China bullies the crap out of any country they can. You can't let them have power. I'm American so I agree with American dominance. Also read masters of deceit
>>72154885
Yeah I understand you. It's kind of funny to say that. I remember when I was a kid and my dad would sing nazi songs and shout "heil hitler" when he's drunk, and nobody cared in China. They don't laugh because Germany was an ally of Japan, but they didn't care at all.
The current-day China has nothing to do with real commie China under Mao rule. Mao China was really a big brother society in which everybody denounced each other, even children. Hell, I know a Chinese guy who was threatened to accuse his father when he was a little boy. His father got executed.
What China hates is social unrest, people going for against each other, no matter who is right or wrong.
>>72155200
This one
http://www.amazon.com/Asias-Cauldron-South-Stable-Pacific-ebook/dp/B00G8ELTCK
>inb4 jew
The first chapters are about History and the author is neither pro nor anti-China. Just spreading facts, especially about the US involvement in the Caribbean. It's exactly the same as China nowadays and he said we can't blame China for wanting to spread its influence in SC sea. It's a "natural" behavior for any superpower.
>>72154885
Nazi Germany was perfectly safe and free right up to the Black Mariah pulling up to the curb and the political police jumping out and grabbing you.
>>72155612
When my Chinese gets better I want to read their history of Mao. Im curious to compare and contrast it to English history of Mao.
But yeh, I feel very free here. If my family lived here, I might consider staying, but after several years around the world, I think its time i return.
>>72156235
I'm starting to learn chinese for somewhat of the same reason. The chinese are very smart so I'd like to read some of their own history. I'm fascinated with the place regardless of how much I want to see usa either crush or work with them
>>72155586
>Also read masters of deceit
I will.
>>72155612
>This one
>http://www.amazon.com/Asias-Cauldron-South-Stable-Pacific-ebook/dp/B00G8ELTCK
Will read it. Thanks for the book. I totally agree that it's natural for a superpower to do these sort of things. But does it make it correct? Saying "America did it too!" Feels like a very weak argument. But I'd also have to admit America wouldn't where it is if it played fair. It horrible things to get where it is. And China wants to do the same thing but America is calling them out. Kind makes America look like a hypocrite.
>>72156235
I also want to read Chinese history written by Chinese people.
Isn't Communist countries very tight on spying on people and knowing what they talk about between themselves? Or is this the idea of "old" communism? And where have you been around the world?
>>72157523
America, Ukraine (years ago before the war), Israel, and China.
I have heard communist countries are very tight, but I tell ya, it doesnt feel that way here. Even the police are super nice and friendly. I watched them arrest an aggressive drunk man and they had 4 officers come grab him, two on each arm, and drag him to the van. One of them got punched and didnt even react negatively. Much less, they didnt hit back or use tazers or anything. They were respectful of the guy they were arresting.
Never seen anything like it before. In America, much of the police work like a mafia, especially when it comes to traffic violations. Ukraine's police are on a power trip and quite frightening. As for Israel, their police make you feel safe, but the ready-to-fire grip on the assault rifle was always a little intimidating.
This is a nice thread
Have a bump
>>72127710
Go eat some duck feet, Chang. You're not yourself when you're hungry.
>>72157523
>>72157523
Masters of deceit is from j edgar hoover(director of FBI for 40ish years I think) who was obsessed with communism. It's printed in 1959, I'm shocked by a lot of what I read. I had no idea pc culture was alive back then
Great read
