http://www.infowars.com/rnc-rules-committee-member-if-trump-gets-1237-delegates-that-doesnt-mean-hell-be-nominee/
Curly Haugland, a longstanding RNC official and an unbound delegate from North Dakota who will be on the convention rules committee in July, told CNBC that attaining 1,237 during the primaries does not secure the nomination.
“Even if Trump reaches the magic number of 1,237 the media and RNC are touting, that does not mean Trump is automatically the nominee,” Haugland said. “The votes earned during the primary process are only estimates and are not legal convention votes. The only official votes to nominate a candidate are those that are cast from the convention floor.”
I always wondered how the French Revolution happened. The. I read shit like this. Don't these cuckservative faggots know they'll be dragged in the streets and hung in public if they keep pushing shit like this?
nothing surprising here sadly.
>>71827159
>Oops! Looks like you didn't actually have enough delegates :^)
it's over already. any attempt to deny trump will be met with fierce opposition
If Trump isn't the Nominee the Dems and Repubs can form the Globalist Authoritarian White Guilt High Tax Party to counter the Patriot Don't tell people how to live Party.
>>71827998
>I always wondered how the French Revolution happened.
I'd explain it, but you clearly sound like someone who'd rather watch it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pXxoyk5wOo
Marat is /pol/
>0 days without establishment tricks
>>71828223
>to counter the Patriot Don't tell people how to live Party.
How about the America First Party?
So... what now? Is it over? Do we go home with our tails between our legs?
GENTLEMEN WE MUST STAND AND FIGHT WE CANNOT ACCEPT TYRANNY. WE MUST FIGHT BACK.
Er, THEY must fight back. I'm staying right here in my cozy basement.
>>71828277
Wait, are you trying to imply that Establishment are Jewish?
>>71828103
Plus with Rato stealing/bribing delegates.
>>71827998
>Don't these cuckservative faggots know they'll be dragged in the streets and hung in public if they keep pushing shit like this?
They probably won't, though. Things aren't bad enough yet. We still have food, water, shelter, TV, and internet.
When all of those things get cut off. One really doesn't have anything to do *but* revolt. Until then, why revolt when you can be playing vidya, watching reality TV, and getting fat?
People will be pissed, and some people will act, but the majority of people will just be pissed.
>>71827760
JFC!!!!!
>>71828543
What the fuck.
Since when is determinism the domain of religion ?
Determinism was born in physics, not fucking religion.
Lalaland randomness is the religious position.
>>71827760
>only estimates
WEW
E
W
>>71829501
Entropy and probability are the foundation of quantum everything.
>>71827760
To clarify, the Republican National Convention rules committee meets in July to determine the rules for the convention. Reince Priebus, the current chairman of the Republican National Committee, has been encouraging people in private to not change the rules so as to prevent a revolt against Republican leadership, no matter who the eventual nominee is. It is ultimately up to people on the rules committee to decide.
>>71827998
not a fucking thing will happen. and they know it. these cuckservitive faggots and any other group or person or entity undermining our freedoms have no fear of us ever doing anything. because we are soft. we are pussys, we are americunts. prove me and them wrong faggots. YOU CANT. NOW GO BACK TO WORK AND PAY YOUR JEWTAXES, WITH YOUR JEW GOLD, AND DONT FORGET TO CONSUME OBEY AND DONT REPRODUCE IF YOUR WHITE.
>>71829624
... Entropy is the fucking basis of determinism.
Probabilistic nature of quantum mechanics is not confirmed ( nor disproven as far as i know ). And until we get a ( WORKING ) quantum computer exploiting said probabilistic nature, i'll firmly believe there's underlying deterministic variables we haven't uncovered yet.
>>71827998
If they pull this shit after decades of "Vote or Die" and "Rock the Vote" and "Get the Vote Out", it'll be time to roll the muthafucking guillotines!
I get that we were never intended to have direct access to electing the president, but the faggots shouldn't have been telling us that our vote counts if that is the case.
Day of the rope soon?
>captcha: select all images with trees
thanks google
"estimations" made by the rules apportioning the delegates, and unless Trump is literally at 1237 the estimates won't be so wrong he mysteriously falls short.
If anything, they would try to unseat Trump delegates.
>>71829478
I don't know if I'd be too sure about that. There's only about 150 million working people in the US supporting the rest of 170 million. Once we reach the tipping point all you need is a little push and all shit will go down.
>>71827760
Ok I'm a Kasichnaut and I even see this is bullshit. I only wanted Kasich to win via contested convention. BUT IF TRUMP GET'S THE RIGHT AMOUNT OF DELEGATES HE WINS FAIR AND SQUARE FUCK OFF RNC.
>>71827998
>tfw nothing would happen and liberals would LITERALLY be celebrating that Trump was stumped and ratofags will be celebrating that their shitty candidate won meanwhile America just goes down the shitter more and more
The problem is until some fucking 9/11 with nukes event happens everyone is going to be complacent with how things are.
>>71830207
>There's only about 150 million working people in the US supporting the rest of 170 million.
With automation, this is only really going to get worse. It's going to be STEM people, and then a bunch of people who aren't smart enough to be STEM living off of the fruits of engineering. This is why I keep pressuring my brothers to get their ass on codeacademy so they don't fall behind. It's only a matter of time before Chipotle burritos are assembled by robot arms. You can either design and program the robot arms or get replaced.
How we address this discrepancy will be a test of our humanity. We can either go full socialist, or say fuck it dumb people starve.
>>71827760
The problem with this of course is that those 1,237+ delegates will be part of the Rules Committee... and they aren't going to vote for that. So everyone will remain bound on the first ballot and Trump will win outright.
>>71828227
Marat also was killed.
>>71827760
it is going to be fucking glorious when you guys get cucked by your own fucking party after all the shitposts about shillary and libtards
>>71830442
>>71830051
>>71829829
>>71829478
Cmon faggots. It doesn't have to be violent, but you're telling me you wouldn't protest at least?
>>71827760
>modern democracy
Not even having a go at you Americans, this shit happens all over the world, look at how Abbott was replaced. The fact that its this blatant is just disgusting though.
>>71830674
>our party
No
The parties are cancer
>>71830692
I'll try to be in Cleveland but I'm telling you, if you are looking for some 1776-tier shit it ain't going to happen.
People will be pissed but in the end nothing will happen. The media will go "OH SHIT STUMPED"
The GOP must do all it can to prevent the rise of American Fascism.
The next step should be enacting anti-hate speech laws and long jail sentences for violators.
It's sadly necessary, as anyone who spent time around /pol/ can see.
>>71830674
Democrats were born cucked, straight out of the womb they are a product of cuckoldry. Any semblance of choice is cucked in the Democratic Party because Hillary was already crowned nominee by the 2014 midterm elections.
But go ahead, defend it and vote for Hillary. Vote for Democrat Bush.
If trump gets 1,237 Delegates and he will not be nominee.
Most of the GOP will be shot in the head. not advocating anything. But that is what will almost certainly happen.
>>71827998
You misunderstand what the Republican Party (and Democratic Party) are. These are private entities. They are bound by various rules within each state to effectively sponsor a candidate in the general election, but there is nothing in the federal or most state Constitutions to require one form of democracy over another.
State level GOP rules committees decide whether or not delegates are bound or unbound at the Republican National Convention and for how many ballots this applies. For example, delegates from North Dakota, Guam, American Samoa, and some of the delegates from Pennsylvania, Wyoming, and Colorado are unbound from the very first ballot. Roughly half of all delegates remain bound on the second ballot. By the third ballot, only delegates from Florida remain bound (Trump won all 99 with 46% of the popular vote). This is why it is very important to get delegates favorable to you elected to attend the convention.
So how are delegates chosen? That also varies by state, but they are always chosen through some type of public vote. In some states, delegates are chosen by the candidate who wins them through a popular vote. If such a state is winner take all, the candidate who received the plurality of the vote chooses all delegates to represent that state. In other states, delegates are chosen by direct election. In such states, delegates are encouraged to but typically not required to declare who they support for President. Any registered Republican can vote in delegate elections for the states where they are available, but these elections receive much less fanfare than the popular vote. With less advertising of events, it is incumbent on members registered to their party to research where their district vote for delegates is being held, to learn which delegates support which candidates, and to vote.
>“Even if Trump reaches the magic number of 1,237 the media and RNC are touting, that does not mean Trump is automatically the nominee,” Haugland said.
They really don't give a shit any more, do they?
If we have to thank Trump for anything, it's exposing the true beliefs of those in power.
>>71827760
> only estimates
This guy is just fucking retarded. If Priebus himself said this it would probably a signal to armor up.
>>71831176
Honestly I think it's just all hysteria, there is no way they do this. Not even the media would justify this shit at that point. It would literally prove Trump right.
Instead, they would probably just give Trump the nomination and try to do everything to undermine him.
Reince seems to actually be telling these people to fuck off from interfering, my guess is this is all wearing him down and he just wants to wash his hands of anything happening
>>71830692
The people who would be mad about Trump being stolen from have jobs and thusly no time to protest.
>>71830694
Retard that's how parliamentary caucuses are supposed to work. Relaplacing the PM isn't some new thing that was invented in the last five years, it used to happen way more earlier on. Paul Keating did it and Peter Costello tried his best to, fucking undeager
>>71827998
>>71828155
>>71831401
You guys are delusional, this is going to happen and you're going to aggressively shitpost on /pol/ about it. I can't wait to come back on July 21st and see all the butthurt. I will savor the tears
>>71831080
Of course, different people prefer different systems. Some favor statewide votes with delegates apportioned based on the vote. Some prefer winner-take-all. Some prefer precinct caucuses. Some prefer voting for delegates instead of voting for the candidate directly.
All of these systems are democratic by definition, as all are dependent upon the vote of those who attend to show popularity of a candidate or to decide delegates. Anyone who is registered to the party (and sometimes those who are not) can show up to vote. It is precisely because different people prefer different systems that we see different systems in each state.
If you dislike the system in your state, it is up to you to change it either through a grassroots effort to convince party leadership in your state or a grassroots effort to unseat party leadership in your state. However, you have zero say as to how other states conduct their delegate selection and assignment processes. If you are from Florida and like your winner-take-all system, you can't gather millions of Floridians to convince the New York GOP to change their system. Simply stated, they do not represent you. They represent the people of New York and organize their elections based on the voters in New York. It would be no different from Floridians calling up Chuck Schumer (D-NY) to tell him how he should vote on a bill in the Senate.
Don't worry. He won't even reach 1237
First off
>infowars
Second there's no fucking way these people would be that stupid is there?
>>71827760
God, that pic is fucking glorious. Please, someone post a high res version. Someone's got to have it!
>>71827760
Fuck off Alex Jones. Everyone who has a clue has known he was always COINTELPRO/controlled opposition. Even the Blacks and Mexicans can see through this transparent kikery.
>>71831524
They aren't going to be so transparent, if they truly are going to stop Trump they could just easily rig the upcoming primary votes. Did you know Indiana uses a lot of Diebold voting machines?
Why do some dumb bullshit like rip the rug from out under him when he gets 1237 instead of just legitimizing the steal by just denying him the delegates by rigging the primaries?
Fuck you people are dumb. Even PA uses Diebold voting machines too in a lot of their counties.
Stop making up dumb "TRUMP STUMPED" scenarios that aren't going to fucking happen.
>>71831524
exactly, glug glug glug
>>71831017
That would happen in any country other than the Western world and select parts of Asia. Mass violence like that surrounding politics has not happened in decades upon decades, if ever, so there's no reason why it would suddenly happen now.
>>71830866
The GOP
>prevent the rise of American Fascism
>prevent fascism by attempting to let the party bosses and only the party bosses SELECT the nom like the Soviet Union
We're already there.
>>71831557
>All of these systems are democratic by definition,
Even the States where they literally dismiss delegates if they know they are pro Trump? That is not democratic. Just because "DEMS DA RULEZ" don't mean the rules are fair or reflect what the actual American public wants.
>>71828227
I loved that documentary when I was a kid.
This entire election is gearing towards an RNC fallout and Hillary taking the nomination.
Too many voters will defect if Trump doesn't get the nomination, and Trump himself doesn't have broad enough support to take the presidency, unless he pulls something amazing off.
The real important thing that will happen is the Republican party crumbling and reforming after the election.
I really wouldn't be surprised if they pulled some shady shit like switching the day or venue at the last minute and only telling non-Trump delegate, or some other technicality nonsense. The elites genuinely detest the voting public.
>>71829478
>>71830795
wasnt taxes enough to push colonists?
>>71831802
Got any links brah?
>>71832392
dude they are going to do so much shady shit on the floor its going to blow your mind
>>71832260
>The real important thing that will happen is the Republican party crumbling and reforming after the election.
None of that will matter if we have another 8 years of corruption and incompetence and outright disdain for the American public.
>>71832508
Yeah but today we are too brave new world.
I bet you anything more than half the fucking people who will vote in the upcoming election will have paid absolutely zero attention to the primary.
>>71830866
>anti hate-speech laws
>preventing fascism
>>71827760
What a disgusting puff piece, if you watch that video. The news anchor shrugs dismissively and uses the word "crying" to describe the voter disenfranchisement he's been hearing. 2 minutes in. He also asks earlier what the role of a delegate is, mentioning options, but suspiciously omits the option that they are representatives of the will of the people.
>>71831876
Lol they're going to do it and they're going to get away with it and I'm going to laugh all day.
>>71830866
>>71832918
Do you want us to invade you again?
>>71827998
Can this democracy meme die already? America is NOT a democracy. You people are delusional to think that Trump can be elected. Nothing will change, and Hillary has been chosen to transition us into the global serfdom.
>>71832636
Trust me, I live in a fake democracy just like you, I know what goes down. There's gonna be so much rules-lawyering, "technical faults", ballot papers that are purposefully designed to be confusing so that it looks like you're voting for Trump but you're really voting for Cruz. Mysterious power outtages, road blockages, or fire alarms that somehow obstruct Trump delegates from getting to the floor. Good luck.
>>71829501
>>71830014
Determinism was originally a dogma in christianity/catholicism, then this dogma was adopted by sceince and physics, as modern sceince began taking over dominant position on intellectual issues.
Yet determinism and the concept that "laws of nature are fixed" where adopted from dominant christian theology at the time, never having been challanged.
Its still extremely hard to challange these dogmas ironically adopted from mediëval theocray.
Although its slowly coming more loose due to various quantum mechanics theories finally breaking apart from the determinism dogma.
One interpretation of QM, the Many World theory, is only `popular`, or deemed `rational` among certain people because it is the ONLY theory on QM that tries to maintain the determinictic principle. It is also the most retarded one yet very popular precicely because of the militant atheists who do not want to acknowledge they had assumed a silly medieval dogma.
>>71832972
Don't talk to me or my wife's son ever again
>>71833035
yup you know how it goes
>>71829829
Its really not about being pussies i think anyone would be hard pressed, to find popular upriseing happening through historie that happend where the populace had abundant bread and circus so to speak
>>71833118
>>71827760
>Faggots forgetting we dont live in a Democracy but in a Republic
>bu-u-ut muh popular vote!
Democracy is shit and allows retards to make decisions for the rest of us. Stop crying cucks this is a Republic
>>71831876
is this babbies first election?
>>71827998
It really jut takes one brave madman to spark the fuse at this point.
>>71833283
>there are still people on /pol/ who mistake direct democracy as the only form of democracy and don't consider a representative democracy a type of democracy
Stay in school.
>>71827760
American
""""""""""""""""""democracy""""""""""""""
>>71833307
Nigga I'm saying it's just as easy for them to literally rig the voting machines to just deny him.
I'll be laughing when literally none of these doomsday scenarios happen
>>71833411
Nothing will happen dude, it will be a shitpost crying fest on /pol/ though, and I suggest you all get ready to laugh at trumpcucks on July21st
>>71832508
Yeah, but them niggas didn't have shit to do with their spare time. We're surrounded by entertainment and distractions. Why do I need to put myself in a war-like situation and deprive myself of comfort?
>>71827760
Just fuck my party up senpai
>>71830692
protesting doesn't do shit
>>71828227
>>71827998
If Trump DOESNT get the nomination he will back Clinton and destroy the GOP forever
Its a win win situation
>>71833954
>>71827760
What would be interesting to see would be if these faggot "all talk" patriots actually got off their asses and started killing the RNC leadership. They talk tough, but in the end they do nothing or they just shoot innocent people like a bunch of cowardly assholes. If they aren't killing the ones doing the dicking in this country, then they are degenerate faggots.
>>71834144
>>71833954
>almost every single one is sports
good
good
:^)
>>71829829
You Trump supporters really should be doing something about the RNC if they try this nonsene. Go to rallies and talk to people, letting this slide is pathetic. I don't have as much skin in the game since the Republicans are too invested in social conservativism for my taste and the democrat who is going to win will carry on her husbands destructive legacy both on foreign policy and trade deals. I don't believe in Trump, because he has said nothing of substance and I have no reason to think "Guys it's gonna be great, trust me" is a plan of action.
>>71830692
Yes it does. Non-violent protests will accomplish nothing, this generation and the one before us have no idea how to peacefully assemble anymore (see: occupy, US November the 5th vs Brit, peaceful BLM variants, as examples).
It isn't that a protest has to be violent, but the non-violent ones end up wih everyone sitting around hashtagging and no one taking leadership. Look at the seattle 1999 WTO vs the Chicago one. The Chicago one was just news baiting the anarchists to try something and then ignoring them when they just sat around blocking traffic.
>>71829478
This, for a legit revolution to happen lots will have to change.
We're still to comfortable. Now if someone kills the power, and we go hungy a few weeks, then we get scared? Whew boy! We skip the revolution and go right to mad max as the world burns.
>>71827998
makes sense why they dont want the people to have guns
>>71827998
Cuckservatives talk a lot of shit but are too stupid and lazy to actually do anything.
Remember all the crazy shit they were gonna do if that Kenyan born Muslim sleeper cell terrorist stole the election from McCain...and then Romney? Yeah they've just sat back and took it like bitches all these years.
>>71834593
>Muh food
Shit has happened for less, this is just what faggots tell themselves when modern man fails to do anything about their own demise, such as the case with Europe.
It's not because we have these "comforts", people today just suicidally apathetic.
Maybe starvation would "wake people up", but don't pretend that it's key to any revolution.
>>71832672
Sometimes I forget how the rest of the country doesn't give a damn and that we are autistic by comparison
>>71831524
I cant wait to savor Mexican tears when they are deported lol
>>71835623
It's a depressing reality. Honestly the silver lining though is I think Trump could really get the uninformed vote easily if Hillary keeps harping on about literally who issues like BLM.
That is if Diebold doesn't elect Hillary.
>>71828227
Who would have thought phimosis could bring down an empire
>>71827760
all a bunch of bullshit. Not only would there be chaos if he got very close and still loss but to get the number emphasized over and over and still lose? There wouldn't be an America let alone Republican Party. Now fuck off.
>>71828543
Free will CAN'T exist and quantum mechanical operations are indeterministic (functionally random), not deterministic.
>>71833084
>adopted
You make it sound like a committee convened and decided on incorporating determinism into their ideology.
What do you call it when an individual (me) comes up with the same ideas independently to these scientists that came before me?
What do you call it when most people interested in the actual operations of the universe do the same?
It's an independent, rational conclusion to reach. It isn't some authoritative "dogma" like religion.
Sad that you compare it to your religion.
>>71829478
This.
>>71827760
Not making Trump the nom is an auto win for Hillary. I will not even bother voting if they screw over Trump.
acceptance is the last stage you faggots
>>71832171
The only cases I've read of delegates being dismissed was in Colorado, and it was for failure to pay the fee to appear on the convention ballot and nonattendance.
The process in Colorado worked as follows:
On March 1, registered Republicans can vote for delegates at district caucuses. A primary delegate and alternate delegate are chosen to go to the caucus, the primary delegate being the person to finish in first place and the alternate being the person who finishes second. This typically means the primary delegate supports the most popular candidate and the alternate delegate supports the second most popular candidate in the district.
People chosen as primary and secondary delegates pay a small fee to appear on the convention ballot. The conventions take place in early April, the exact time varying by district. Failure to pay the fee or failure to attend will result in your name (or number) being removed from the ballot.
All attending delegates vote.
It's more complicated than everyone voting in a primary, but it is still democratic as everyone has the opportunity to vote. I don't know why Colorado prefers this system to select delegates, but they have used it in 24 of the past 27 elections including this year.
>>71828976
>Establishment are Jewish
Shit, this country is ran by kikes.
>>71837070
>there are people who would want to elect third term of Obama except this time with more neocon shit
Why even bother having elections? Obama was just Bush but black. Hillary is just Obushma.
Trump saved us from having a depressing as fuck election of Jeb vs Clinton.
>>71827998
>Don't these cuckservative faggots know they'll be dragged in the streets and hung in public if they keep pushing shit like this?
People are not going to do shit
>>71838258
>Obushma
Sounds like an Anime name.
>>71838549
Yuushibu? http://myanimelist.net/anime/18677/Yuusha_ni_Narenakatta_Ore_wa_Shibushibu_Shuushoku_wo_Ketsui_Shimashita
>>71830632
>end goal of tool usage is tools that make and use themselves; human liberation from labor
>is seen in a negative light because it clashes with economic necessity of jobs
Humanity truly is a mistake.
>>71828477
ANP
>AMERICAN
>NATIONALIST
>PARTY
>>71827998
We need millions of starving bored peasants first.
>>71828155
By a bunch of Anime Faggots and Baby Boomers?
LMAO!!!!!
>>71835559
Go through history and you'll find that most revolutions start with lack of food. There are exceptions, but people need something to drive them out of the comfort of their homes.
Even if Trump gets it, he will end up blamed for the coming economoc crash thr jews have planned.
>>71828477
I'm with you. holy shit this is a good name.
I am the second official member of the America First Party.
>>71832975
>Can this democracy meme die already? America is NOT a democracy
The closest thing to a modern Democracy is currently Switzerland
>>71828155
Really? A bunch of retards abandoning their trailers to riot in the streets? Good luck with that.
>>71836681
spotted the deluded totalitarian
>>71841911
>OY VEY IT'S HAPPENING GOYIM YOU COULD HAVE PREVENTED THIS WITH MORE GLOBALISM
I can see it now
>>71832534
It should be self evident. He is the exact stereotype/trope of a loony conspiracy theorist, and he only seems to go on about the more ridiculous and implausible conspiracies like chemtrails and moon landing hoax. Him and Jesse Ventura.
>>71836951
>What do you call it when an individual (me) comes up with the same ideas independently to these scientists that came before me?
adopted
lmao
![free-wallpaper-11[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/9BarVnd.jpg "free-wallpaper-11[1].jpg")
>>71831792
Here's the original.
Problem?
>>71827760
So what would happen if (as it looks right now) trump wins by a large margin and the establishment decides to let lyin' ted run for president?
>>71849879
nothing burgers are all talk but no action
>>71827760
We have our bread and circuses, nothing will change until we loose those.
