How should I respond?
I need to btfo this guy /pol/
>>71499754
n.y.p.a
>>71499754
Living in America is a privilege not a right.
>>71499754
Most kids working in Chinese sweatshops are hard workers too. But I'm not about to let them displace American jobs.
Alternatively: illegal workers promote a race to the bottom for US labor.
>>71499754
>delete off facebook
>>71499754
Have you mentioned how these horrific trade deals and undercutting wages from mass immigration, legal or otherwise, under the guise of tolerance, have effectively shat on the working class for decades?
>>71499754
Not paying federal taxes is also just dumb.
>>71500111
He's just asking for a reply, stop trying to sound like an old fag
>>71499754
Point out how many poor Europeans immigrated here legally. It's because they had skill and the will to create business. If Mexicans did more then manual labor and open taco carts they might have a better chance to come here. Industrializing this nation took skill, cutting grass does not
I need faster responses guys or else he'll think I'm btfoed
>>71499754
So because they don't have money to come here legally, that makes it ok to break the law? That's like me justifying stealing a new tv because I didn't have the money.
>>71500882
I went with this. Currently waiting for a response
>>71499754
You should close the app and go do something productive. How can you not notice that you're talking to some retarded teenager?
>>71501152
He's a grown ass man that still lives with his once illegal parents.
>>71501052
>>71500882
>>71500619
>lazy piece of shit Americans deserve money
>implying welfare is good
Ishygddt
>>71501302
>Illegals working the fields drives wages down
>Wages get so low, no American will work in the field
>Farmer cries "help I need more Illegals to do the jobs Americans won't do"
It's a self perpetuating cycle anon
>>71499754
If deporting illegal parents with kids is dumb, why is it okay to imprison people with kids?
>>71499754
You say "Donald Trump is the GREATEST American ALIVE. BELIEVE ME!"
>>71501302
>working the fields is all they do
What a stereotyping faggot.
>>71501302
Working the fields can be done by cheap Indians on visas, it's what they do up here
>>71501302
Tell this douch bag that it doesn't matter what your intentions are for breaking the law. It doesn't matter if you try and justify it with "muh live matters" or "muh family. Breaking the law is breaking the law, these shit skins must answer for their crimes.
>>71501198
You sure you aren't being trolled? He types like a retard.
>t.v.
>is Just dumb
>>71501302
>llegal immigration costs U.S. taxpayers about $113 billion a year at the federal, state and local level.
>Most illegal aliens do not pay income taxes. Among those who do, much of the revenues collected are refunded to the illegal aliens when they file tax returns. Many are also claiming tax credits resulting in payments from the U.S. Treasury.
http://www.fairus.org/publications/the-fiscal-burden-of-illegal-immigration-on-united-states-taxpayers
>>71499754
That he's racist, obviously. Not all mexicans are illegals, and not all blacks are criminals. It's disgusting that he'd think otherwise in 2016. Also tell his boss he's racist as fuck for implying most mexicans in america are illegals.
Ask him if it's fair to the people who save up their entire lives to pay for LEGAL immigration, if Pablo and his Amigos get to just cross over whenever they like and their kids get automatic citizenship just because they fell out of their mother's vagina in El Paso instead of Juarez
Immigrants that apply to come legally are put on a list.
Illegal immigration makes the US allocate resources that would typically be used for legal immigrants, on illegal immigrants.
How is this fair to the people who apply legally, who have to wait years to get in, and now have to wait even longer because of illegals?
Point to Caesar Chavez.
He hated illegal immigrants and their families because they essentially acted as scabs that would work for pennies. Illegal immigrants are the sole reason farm workers get paid piss nothing, and Chavez fought tooth and nail to stop them.
It doesn't matter if they are hard workers. In fact, thats a bad thing since they cause wages to take a nosedive.
>>71501462
I went with this
>>71501557
He is pretty retarded.
>>71501302
Both are a breach of the law. Is this guy seriously arguing for the creation of a permanent underclass who can only find work in so far as they allow their employers to dodge taxes and regulations relating to minimum salaries and associated costs of legal hiring? Is he really arguing for a the creation of a class of people who cannot fully live within the legal system of the United-States and are therefore encourages to break the law several time in order to be there, be it in the form of fraud or more impactful forms of crime? Is he saying that the illegal way of ""granting"" residency to people is somehow more fair than the legal way? Is he saying that he wants the illegal system to endure, instead of there being a more efficient legal one?
If he's gonna argue that illegal immigrant come here to participate in the labor black market, does he not acknowledge that the current system of wage and cost imposed on businesses is unsustainable? So unsustainable that illegal immigrants have to be imported en masse in order to circumvent said system of cost? Does he think it's fair to the native tax paying population of the southern state to have no control over the people who here, to have no voice over who their neighbors are going to be, in spite of the fact that we live in a putative democratic system? If other people can just break the law in order to come to the US, does that mean that those who already live there basically have no say in their coming to their state? Is that fair to them? Is it fair that they then have to provide government services to these individual they had no choice to welcome? Is it good to bring a large swath of people into your country who will then see themselves as being in an adverse relationship with the government and potentially with the nation, since they then have to live hiding from the law?
Seriously fuck that guy.
>>71501826
Does this idiot think illegal field workers are getting minimum wage?
>>71501826
Ask him what manual labor jobs he's held for years that give him this insight.
>>71501950
yes, which is 10 dollars here
>>71501557
>t.v.
What's wrong with that?
>>71501950
Minimal wages are around $7.50 p/h
Illegal immigrant wage is $7.50 p/d
>>71501302
first there is no point whatsoever in debating a reg in politics, you won't convince them
I can't convince the average trump poster on /pol/ that a tariff on mexico would dissolve NAFTA overnight, even if it violates the very building blocks of the agreement.
You can't convince this person of anything, they simply won't listen.
If you want to pad your ego, then point out that mexicans aren't idiots, they do not just "work the fields." That's racist as well as ignorant. They take jobs in HVAC, work in trades.
It's not fair because they do not pay into the system like regular working Americans. They do not pay taxes, they do not work within the system. They are a net drain on our public services.
>>71502048
Hmm, I wonder who picked the grapes and shit during the depression? I wonder why, when you go up to washington you see white people working in the fields and bussing tables in restaurants? How did agriculture survive for thousands of years without the almighty mexican?
>>71502048
Then I suppose you should say,
>Then they can get green cards and make their money legally, if they don't have a record they should be fine.
I'm not even sure if thats true though
>>71501302
So we can pick and choose which laws to enforce?
Also this fucker seems really obsessed with the idea that all illegals are hardworking and just don't sap off government money with fraud.
>>71502048
looks to me like you are getting your ass kicked my man
just give it up, you couldnt debate him yourself and an entire board of alt-right cucks cant even help you. Sad!
>>71502048
Part of the dilemma about agricultural work is that most Americans would prefer a steady full-time job rather than seasonal work. What would be a good way out of the H2B system is to make these field jobs like the IT industry in that the farm laborers that hire people can then contract American workers for years at a time and pay them on a bi-weekly salary even in between the harvest and spring.
>>71502048
Crossing the border illegally is still breaking the law. Just keep bringing that up.
>>71502267
Did my own research I'm wrong its hard
>>71499754
Has she ever seen a Mexican work? There is a reason they only pay them 10$ a day. Because 16 of them combined equal a small group of Americans
>>71501826
Bull fucking shit.
I grew up on a Californian vineyard. Here is how shot works.
>1945
>Grandpa has his ranch
>Its harvest season, he needs labor
>Posts a "Help Wanted" sign in town
>Gets a slew of workers, most migrant families but some local residents/kids/etc
>They work the season
>Pays each worker minimum wage and sends them on their way
>2015
>It's harvest season, we need labor
>Call up the labor contractor
>Sign a contract with him for X amount of money
>He sends over his team of "legitimate migrant workers"
>I pay the contractor
>He pays the "legitimate workers" half the minimum wage and keeps the rest for himself
>I can't really say no because honest labor can't compete with his prices
Notice this has several downsides
>Locals/honest laborers are denied work because they can't compete with illegal labor
>A middleman crops up who runs what is essentially a human traffic business
>Ranchers and farmers are forced to become dependent on cheap, illegal labor
>>71502048
That just means the wages are too low for the work. the wages would adjust to the correct market value if we didnt have hundreds of thousands of illegals undercutting the value of unskilled american labor and surviving off of american taxes which they dont bother paying their fair share of.
>>71502432
>>>
this you friend is retarded, we are not Europe where you can stay if you break open the border.
>>71502048
>You can't solve the worlds problems by bringing impoverished people over to America
>Thats not how economics work
>Thats not how anything works
>You don't solve a problem by moving it around
Someone give me statistic
>>71502363
Shut the fuck up Canada
>>71502683
http://www.pewhispanic.org/2009/04/14/a-portrait-of-unauthorized-immigrants-in-the-united-states/
>>71502683
Ask him who he knows that's illegal, then report them to ICE.
>>71502760
oh, sorry
>The 2007 median household income of unauthorized immigrants was $36,000, well below the $50,000 median household income for U.S.-born residents.
>>71502683
Hurr fallacy of authority
>>71502683
Only 1 in 10 Australians uses public transport to get to work and more people walk to work than catch a bus.
>>71499754
You're right, punishing people for breaking the laws of our land is a poor precedent to set. Should we let robbers, rapists, and drug dealers roam free too?
>>71502683
You should point out her anecdote.
>>71502827
This
>>71502827
/thread
>>71499754
>you're a fucking idiot and you don't get to choose which laws are worth enforcing, also kill yourself whore/faggot
>>71502683
>Well thats incredibly illegal and very few are willing to risk everything on such an opporation
steal shit from this guy >>71502553
>Labor contractors are the new thing now and they take a large piece of the payment for themselves
>>71502898
>>71502877
Hello newfriend :) Can I show you the way around?
>>71502877
>>71502898
Impressive, Ausfag.
>>71502363
w-what? Are you implying that the right wing version of tumblr is full pathetic brain-dead neckbeards? Are you kidding me???
>>71502683
>muh rotting crops
He completely ignores the fact that most illegal spics work under the table in the service sector (restaurants, plants, construction) and not even a fourth of them are out in the fields
>>71502363
That's because we're trying to be logical, logic takes effort, hence the thread
>>71502836
This analogy won't work. You have to account for the families.
OP you're never going to win this, you're never even going to get the satisfaction of knowing this person feels dumb. This person legitimately thinks they're a smart and good person
>>71499754
Tell them that they are arguing in favor of Mexican slave labor. Tell them they are on the wrong side of history (libshits are self-absorbed enough to think history will give two shits about them) and they are basically the Confederates of the 21 century.
>>71503172
I don't think I've ever seen one of these threads where the /pol/ack wins. These dumbasses always clam up and say something stupid, which flips the momentum.
>>71502363
>>71503085
>other person replying has said nothing buy emotional appeals and personal anecdotes
although i admit, OP has completely ignored some of the best responses for bad comparisons and outright disagreeing with the other person without backing his opinion with sourced facts
>>71502683
Seems like youre arguing with a total idiot.
Just let him know that the Latino hero Cesar Chavez had to keep illegals out too because they threatened the jobs that illegals in the country already had. It's a bullshit excuse because farm work should be a stepping stone for regular citizens/legal immigrants, any generation of illegal immigrant children born here hardly ever go into working the fields, they take regular jobs from regular citizens. Trump wants immigrants to come LEGALLY, this kid has to be a total fucking idiot if he thinks you can just show up and start making a life in someone elses' country.
I get the feeling this stupid shite is a "la raza" type who looks the other way because they're "his people"
>>71502683
Is that a fucking raiders cap, with a guy doing an in the mirror selfie? Why are you even caring what this faggot thinks?
Fuck this guy
>>71499754
>How should I respond?
Cut your dick off with a hammer. You ain't using it anyway.
>>71503469
>Eddy Razo
well what did you expect
>>71503469
Ask him why he thinks Mexicans are more hardworking than blacks or Asians, that should be fun.
>>71503469
>I don't recall calling them lazy
>>71503469
>more hardworking
Not hardworking enough to come here legally.
It is hard to convince a shitskin they should not support their fellow shitskin
>>71503469
>the last name
>he lives in Cali
Gee, I wonder why he's defending illegal immigrants.
>>71503542
>I didn't say that.
Wow, look how fun that was anon.
>>71503469
Ask him to prove that.
>>71503469
Even if they were getting paid minimum wage its harder work than flipping burgers so if whites preferred flipping burgers instead of working on the fields they'd have to eventually rise the wages until people want to do that work or invest in automation to make up for it.
>>71503469
Bring up that they cut corners whenever they can, because they have no obligation to not break the law.
>>71503469
Just regurgitate more talking points im sure he'll listen to you eventually
All of /pol/ getting BTFO by one guy
ask him if he is worried about being deported?
>>71499754
Liberals have to be the single most short sighted stupid mother fuckers on the planet. Their whole ideology is basically
Steps 1: Feelings
Steps 2: ???
Step 3: Profit!
>you are talking to an illegal immigrant and probably a violent criminal.
>>71502809
mfw when illegal immigrants make more than me and don't pay taxes
>>71503763
>guy spewing anecdotal evidence hot and heavy
>btfoing anyone
no
>>71503819
OP should probably just report him to ICE.
>>71503763
No, the autist who took it upon himself to debate with a libtard, is blowing himself out by not being able to construct a coherent arguement.
>>71503863
THIS
>>71503819
He's the child of two illegals
>>71503763
pol getting anally raeped by a normie who doesnt even use real arguments LMAO
>>71503469
You and I both know he's just repeating the same fucking thing without having a backing argument. Call him out on it you dumbshit
>>71503469
i literally gave you a sourced statistic directly refuting his claim and you respond with this bullshit? there were two or three other perfectly good arguments made for you and you dont even have the linguistic skills to make a decent emotional appeal instead of using what was spoonfed to you.
>>71503836
its hard to compare incomes when hours worked arent factored in
>>71503904
THEN REPORT HIM TO ICE
>WHO CARES ABOUT WINNING A SHITTY DEBATE IF HE GETS DEPORTED
>>71503904
Tell him to stop asserting his opinions and anecdotal observations as the truth and acting as if you're a gibbering retard for not going along with it
>>71503904
>Americans want everything handed to them
what...? He doesn't even identify as an American, what an ungrateful shit, this country literally made his life possible
>>71503904
Good job for listening to me OP.
I'm the son of two [legal] immigrants, so I sort of see where he's coming from. There is no logical argument that'll convince him. Only some sort of terrible, personal experience like a pleb Mexican slashing his tires.
Just wish him a good night. Maybe he'll think you're a polite guy, and reconsider what you said.
>>71503904
Report him and get him deported
>>71503904
>Live around white people
>See white homeless people
>There's a pattern here, can you see it?
CALL THEM THEY WILL GO GET THEM NOW
San Francisco Field Office
Enforcement & Removal Operations
630 Sansome Street Rm 590
San Francisco, CA, 94111
Phone: (415) 844-5512
>>71503904
You notice how gangbangers, high school drop outs and people at the welfare line tend not be white? 'Dude you won't accept it but it's true.'
>>71504075
>Maybe he'll think you're a polite guy
Nope. We hang out everyday and he thinks I'm a racist but he seems pretty cool with it.
>>71503951
>>71504091
If he was born in America, then it doesn't matter who his parents are, you dumb autists.
And you sound like fucking SJW's. "oh no I can't convince him, better send him to gulag"
>>71504160
ok now I'm confused
>>71499754
Ok, it's dumb. It's ham-fisted. But isn't doing nothing also dumb? And isn't calling him racist for wanting to secure our borders dumb too?
Look- This is a cultural movement. You're getting caught up in campaign policy speeches. Look at the message. They're illegal. That means the government is forced to act. And we should want them to act. The word illegal means against the law. Any other interpretation is the exact sort of misuse of language Trump supporters are sick of. No buzzword makes it ok to sneak across the border and live and work outside the law. Together we can make things fair for everyone. Thinking that we can't is the divisive mainstay of the left. They thrive on it. That's why Trump says "Blacks will vote for me, latinos, asians" And Bernie says "We're going to win the latino community." See the difference? To Bernie the latino community is 'them'. To Trump, it's only one community and everyone who says otherwise can fuck right off.
We have the opportunity to make America great again. Without Wall St., pharma, and without the military industrial complex. Hillary can't do that. Bernie is a terrible choice as a leader (his biography is pretty embarrasing). Why isn't Trump worth a try?
>>71504127
he's in bakersfield
>>71504091
facebook /EDDY.CHOCOLATE.BATISTA.RAZO
>>71504171
I'd have just shot at him not debated with him.
>Death to commipinkos
>>71503469
Fuck why are you letting him dictate the argument? These fuck faces dont listen to statistics, only feels. No statistic in the world is going to change the opinion of some spic with immigrant parents. My poli sci professor is like this guy; brings in statistics and papers that say "immigration is good...for the immigrants!" But the papers don't show if the immigrants are willing to fucking assimilate or obey the laws and general culture of their new country. So they run amok and the natives (usually white people) vote for laws that "hurt" the minorities.
Well fucking duh. When you 1. Have no allegiance for a country, you're more willing to break the law. 2. When you are illegal, you feel no need to truly contribute to the community at large, and are fine taking money from your employer under the table, undercutting natives who get taxed out of their cockholes, because your illegal ass isn't here for long, only until your gibsmedat check stops coming in.
You can't reason with a fucking idiot who doesn't care about whitey or doesn't see why people vote in "racist" laws. They vote in laws that benefit the community, and if you're not contributing, you're dead fucking weight.
Quit letting these faggots dominate the debate.
>>71504242
lol, too bad his name wasn't teddy rato
>>71504127
>>71504241
Los Angeles Field Office
Enforcement & Removal Operations
300 North Los Angeles St. Room 7631
Los Angeles, CA, 90012
Phone: (213) 830-7911
>>71504373
this one is about 5 minutes out from bakers field.
:^)
DON'T LET PEOPLE LIKE THIS FORCE AMERICANS OUT OF THE WORK FORCE AND INTO THE STREETS.
>>71504373
he's an anchor baby, they won't be able to do shit sadly
>>71504373
>>71504410
>>71504460
See >>71504171, you stupid autist. You're wasting your designated shitposting time, Aussie.
>I bet 100$ he is on welfare tho..
>>71504460
>Californians are Americans
That's like calling your chinese areas Australians. Everything south of San Fransisco is Mexico-America
>>71504562
>>71504565
then have his parents ripped away from him.
He can either commit crimes helping them come back or wait untill Trump is in office and then be reuinted with his family in Mexico.
>>71503904
He's trying to justify his shitskin parents violating US law. 51% of immigrants in the US receive benefits (EBT, SNAP, ect) they are a net drain on the overall US economy. Illegals depress overall wages when they work because they'll work for less than Americans. Like most Mexicunts he'll never be American, even him a 2nd generation Mexinigger still has allegiance to Mexico so fuck him. Report his shitskin parents to ICE.
I can't wait for the race war. I'll be first in line to turn the valve to start the tacocaust.
>>71501302
>mexican
>must work in field
Hahaha isn't this what they like to call racism?
>>71504663
We have to appropriate their culture first rememeber :^)
He's writing a fucking novel guys
>>71500111
Fuck off /b/ nigger
>>71504732
Well thats a challenging job that always helps give back to society.
>>71504784
Aussies make live worth living
>>71503904
ask him if all he can do is spout opinions and make up stories about things he "sees" as if hes fucking omnipresent. alternatively, make up your own stories
>>71504857
>>71504889
/pol/ is btfo
>>71504889
>America ain't that great
Time to fuck off to Mexico, poncho
so because illiegal immigrants get paid far less than an American worker and take American Jobs and all the Jobs are being outsourced to foreigners
>thats the fault of United States Citizens.
This cunt is a communist and probably just keeps you close to kill you I don't trust him.
>>71504171
I don't know your shit laws, you sperg.
>>71504988
Well he is voting for Bernie
>>71504889
Getting rid of illegals, he is perpetuating the thought that illegals and actualimmigranta are the same thing, when they are not. Tell him he needs to check his stats, find an actual arguement, and check his privilege. Niggers and Spics want everything for free because they came here for free.
>>71504889
>just his worthless opinion again
>just calling you a retard for not agreeing again
>>71504889
>America ain't that great.
WELL NOT WITH THAT ATTITUDE YOU LAZY SHIT.
>>71502363
>mfw Canada says anything these days
It's like as soon as that moron got elected all of Canada instantaneously went to shit. Like overnight, they became the unfunny version of Australia. They're shitposts aren't funny at all and lack that Australian spice and twang. I just wish chinkmoot would do a sweeping ban of all Canadian IPs.
he should go back to his homeland.
>being born in a place doesn't make you a citizen there the whole anchor baby thing is a liberal invention
ITS THE ONLY COUNTRY IN THE WORLD WHERE IF YOU HAVE YOUR BABY YOU CAN STAY
everyone else throws you and your baby the fuck out to your home
>Home is where the heart is his heart is in Mexico.
>>71505048
Oh, poor Boris. Do not worry. Maybe Obama will remember your country's name when he's checking off places for aid.
>>71505159
What a fucking faggot. You keep sperging out about the law in this thread, but when the law literally allows him to stay you suddenly change your tune?
>>71504889
>Americans are lazy
when will this meme end
OP debating this guys is a fucking idiot, and is quite frankly embarrassing us.
OP, stop.
I could have shredded this guy. OP is a faggot with an extremely low IQ.
>>71504889
Bring to attention the logical fallacys he's doing and point out that his statements are insulting and without fact. Condescension is their trigger. If he freaks out you win.
>>71504889
QUOTE THIS ONE >>71501560 YOU SPIC!
>>71504171
He can't get deported but his parents can.
Also OP, keep your opinion to yourself if you can't stand your ground in a debate and need /pol help.
>>71505272
>I could have shredded this guy.
Literally every /pol/ OP says that, and then they act autistic once they start debating.
>>71505306
See >>71505305 and >>71505272.
>>71505306
Literally stop. You are a fucking idiot. This is an easy debate, and you are making a horrible fucking argument.
I could help you but I don't even want to. This is embarrassing. Why have you not referenced how shit Mexico is yet?
>>71505384
This. Shut him down.
>>71505306
Just bombard him with sources already
>>71505384
Ok done
OP, bring up the hypocrisy of Mexicos dealing with illegal immigrants to shut that faggot up.
>>71505447
If America isn't so great, then why are Mexicans killing themselves and getting raped just to come here?
>>71504889
WWWOOOOAW he whipped your ass cuckboy
>>71505306
Dude did you even pass highschool you're arguing on the intellectual level of a third grader, you aren't even making solid arguments and you're bouncing around different premises. I don't even think you truly know what you're arguing about.
>>71505255
>LETS NEVER CHANGE THE LAW
As citizens of the United States you have a Duty to question Authority and Write and Modify the laws to suit your own ends.
Not my fault you have a bleeding heart.
>DEPORT HIM OR KILL HIM WHICHEVER IS EASIEST
(don't dare visit my intentions, you ever been raped?)
>>71505306
illegal immigrants don't pay taxes and they are criminals - they suck money out of america's economy - this guy has no argument and he hates america
>>71504889
>America ain't that great
>all the mexicanoids would still kill to cross the border
The wall just got 10 feet taller.
>>71504889
Tell him illegal immigration is a big middle finger to legitimate immigrants. Ask him why Mexicans are entitled to cross the border illegally, but all other nations in the world have to go through a convoluted legal process. Tell him if he thinks Mexicans are so superior, he should go to fucking Mexico.
-A Legal Russian immigrant.
>>71505634
This.
Like seriously, what the fuck.
I quoted >>71501560 word for word and this was the response
Let's just make Eddy into a meme already
>>71501826
Is he fucking retarded? They get payed pennies on the dollar
>>71500111
Witnessed
>>71505649
>>LETS NEVER CHANGE THE LAW
>As citizens of the United States you have a Duty to question Authority and Write and Modify the laws to suit your own ends.
Great job, dumbass. Now a liberal can argue that all immigration laws should be removed.
>>DEPORT HIM OR KILL HIM WHICHEVER IS EASIEST
>(don't dare visit my intentions, you ever been raped?)
Kek, you've been raped, cuckboy? Was it a mexican?
>>71501560
Vermont has the lowest cost to state.
>>71501302
JUSTICE IS BLIND, BITCH.
>>71505711
Tell paco goodnight.
Soak your head in a tub of cold water OP
>>71505711
he lost the argument so now he's trying to cloud the issue by talking about welfare - it has nothing to do with what your saying
>>71505711
>He's against benefits
>He's not a commie
Well, this just got interesting
>>71505711
This chatlog is painful to read. You are a disgrace.
>>71505781
its a quote from the television show firefly.
>I was threatening to rape you, you arn't the sharpest knife in the drawer are you.
>>71505711
Talking about cutting welfare and getting a job, how Rethuglican of you.
http://www.gallup.com/poll/153992/150-million-adults-worldwide-migrate.aspx
Ask him why Mexicans deserve a spot in America more than Chinese, Nigerians(lol), Indians, Brazilians, or Japanese.
>>71505781
That and they have been pushing that or is your only source of political news /pol/
Are you that guy that just sits here and not looks at current events and just gets spoonfed shit ?
>>71505906
>I don't watch a Reddit show
>Therefore, I'm a disgrace
You're such a fucking faggot, that it's not even funny. I hope som Abo breaks into your house and rapes you.
>>71505711
Okay god I have to help you this is pathetic.
Hit him with this. Income tax doesn't only support people on welfare. Income tax goes towards paying for our national defense, paying annual payments on national debt interest, education and law enforcement and LEGAL immigration. And that's the biggest part. With the lack of illegals paying income tax they are actually negatively impacting the costs and rate of legal immigration into the U.S which forces illegal immigrants into hopping the fence causing problems such as lowering wages. Point out that most of his arguments stem from an uneducated and narrow perspective.
>>71505711
>trying to make it about everybody when the stats clearly don't mention "everybody"
>ignoring how he just said "b-b-but illegals are hard workers" now that he's been BTFO'd
>ignoring how getting a job wouldn't stop illegal tax evasion
It's easy now OP.
>>71505960
I'm aware of it, but they have no traction.
>>71499754
>didnt have the monet yo come legally
>pays traffickers $5,000 or else ends up dead in a mass grave
>pays the traffickers $2,000 a head to be let go of once in america or else are shot or sent to a whore house
>>71505711
This cuck is just mad because his entire and extended family came here illegally while leeching off government benefits (such as roads, schools, etc and not paying federal income tax.)
Then he acts like he is righteous and whites are the bad ones for taking welfare, acting like the 7% he occasionally has to pay on sales tax is funding that.
spics are subhuman
>>71505941
To add on this, country is based on equality. Hence, all immigrants are equal. Why should Mexico get special privileges compared to other nations?
>>71505711
So, you support illegal workforce that mean's you support tax evasion?
>>71499754
I don't have the money to rent the services of a prostitute. Can I rape some Mexican women instead?
No?
Check M8 Atheist.
>>71505978
uh ok?
way to focus on the insult than the content Let me guess you feel the bern right ?
OH YOU ARE IN THE USA ILLEGALLY
>>71505979
going with this
>>71505979
This.
OP, if you don't shoot down this guy like he were Tyrone Martin, you fail at life.
just call her a cuck and move on
>>71500619
tell him that the law is the law and all trump is doing is suggesting we uphold the law instead of brush it aside so callously. the media has successfully portrayed upholding an already existing law as some kind of seriously racist idealism that Trump intends to thrust on America.
>>71505711
Tell him he is an anchor baby. He was born literally so his parents could stay. He shouldn't even be here. Illegal immigrants shouldn't even be a choice when deciding who to employ.
>>71505711
>I don't like that my taxes pay for welfare
>Everyone should fend for themselves financially
>But its ok when foreigners come to fend for themselves here instead of in their own countries
The fuck is this nigga on
>>71506058
He was born in the U.S meaning he's technically "legal" so he pays income tax, it's just his parents who don't. OP just report his parents to the ICE.
start deporting anchor babies USA
>>71506098
Don't go with that. Pedro is deflecting by making it about everyone and everything. That answer plays into his deflection.
>>71506086
>implying that you're gonna rape me with your 1 inch dick is content
Yup, it's an Aussie.
>OH YOU ARE IN THE USA ILLEGALLY
No, Irwin. I was born here, and my parents are legal immigrants. I am literally the epitome of an American.
>>71504206
I have a friend like that
>>71506198
Too late
>>71506202
why are you still going I thought we came to an understanding the rape was a threat of psychological one not a physical one.
right well then you can enjoy your freedom and I shall support you 100%
>I stand corrected, I change my views of you, Touche I concede ect
(its my job to shitpost)
>>71506259
This is the first time molyneux meme applies...
>NOT AN ARGUMENT
>>71506259
>>71505105
BURN!
>>71504663
Flat-out lie, faglord. Immigrants are a net gain on society, literally contributing billions to the economy.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_impact_of_illegal_immigrants_in_the_United_States#Economic_benefits_of_illegal_immigrants
>>71506309
>why are you still going I thought we came to an understanding the rape was a threat of psychological one not a physical one.
>psychological rape
Nigga now you're on some SJW shit
>right well then you can enjoy your freedom and I shall support you 100%
>I stand corrected, I change my views of you, Touche I concede ect
>its my job to shitpost)
Touche kangaroo
>>71506348
If you want to come to America, you gotta work to become legal.
>>71506348
"If you want something you better work for it"
>says the guy on welfare writing a book
>>71504663
Not true, retard.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_impact_of_illegal_immigrants_in_the_United_States#Economic_benefits_of_illegal_immigrants
"Illegal aliens" have a net gain on society. Quit talking out of your crusty ass.
fucking hell, OP
There were several opportunities to shut this faggot down yet you're too dense to come up with responses of your own
I could have ended this argument an hour ago, jesus christ
>>71506348
>If you want national defense, you better work for it.
>If you want basic education, you better work for it.
If this spic ever got a political platform, we would be so fucked.
>>71506369
It's a massive net drain, even the wikipedia article says so.
The only faglord here is you, ya Mexican cum cuzzler.
>>71506426
this is why wikipedia is not counted as a source
=
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conflict-of-interest_editing_on_Wikipedia
>>71506348
>You want something, better work for it.
Start by getting legal right to enter country.
>>71506519
>>71506401
I went with this
>>71506519
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH OP TARGET BTFO
>>71506259
What part of that is he saying to keep?
>>71506348
>you gotta work for it
Yeah just like when his daddy worked himself over the fence.
>>71499929
if you can't come up with your own arguments you should lurk moar and stop getting in political arguments, especially as a Trump supporter.
The media is already portraying us as retards, it doesn't help if you go around spilling spaghetti because you spend too much time in the racist section of a vietnamese stone-sculpting forum.
>>71504889
If Americans are lazy, how the fuck did they build the most powerful nation on the planet? And if Mexicans are so hard honest and hard working, why is Mexico a corrupt third world shithole?
The reality is there to observe, tell that dirty spic to go back to Mexico if he loves Mexicans so much.
>>71506516
>In December 2005, it was noticed that Wikipedia co-founder Jimmy Wales had edited his own Wikipedia entry. According to public logs, he has edited his biography 19 times,[11] as of 9 September 2013, seven times altering information about whether Larry Sanger was a co-founder of Wikipedia. It was also revealed that Wales had edited the Wikipedia article of his former company, Bomis. "Bomis Babes", a section of the Bomis website, had been characterized in the article as "soft-core pornography", but Wales revised this to "adult content section" and deleted mentions of pornography. He said he was fixing an error, and did not agree with calling Bomis Babes soft porn. Wales conceded that he had made the changes, but maintained that they were technical corrections.[12]
FUCKING TOPKEK
HIS OWN SITE IS EXPOSING HIM
>>71506426
Who doed it benefit? The tip 1%ers the democrats bitch about non stop.
And come on
>cant affor ti pay to immigrate legally
>had enough to pay trafickers and nibsterd tax to cross and be released in America. Easily 10 times what it would cost for the legal process.
>>71505405
This.
>mfw a bunch of /pol/acks are losing a pointless internet argument against a generic Chad
This board is a joke.
>>71506713
Take him back mexico
>>71506516
Wikipedia is an over-arching source, you can see where their data came from at the bottom. Come on now.
>>71504889
>You haven't had one solid argument.
Neither did he.
Hello humans. I'm an extraterrestrial from Pluto, which we do consider a planet by the way, and I have a very important question to ask you all.its something our sociologists can't figure out, no matter how much we hypothesize it and study you.
Why, on your God's green planet, do you argue with people over your world wide Web? Do you actually believe that you have a chance of converting someone's opinion to match that of your own when they can safely hide behind the sanctity of their monitor? Do you actually believe they are in it for the subtext of the argument and not just winning, whatever the cost?
Please, we must know this information.
>>71506796
goto any University and College they do not accept wikipedia
>>71506828
AYY LMAO
>>71506836
well if he is working towards his citizenship I see nothing else to see here.
>>71506828
So Pluto is in America?
>>71506887
He's already legal. His parent were so they had a baby or something
>>71506846
I agree, they don't. They would, however, accept the references at the bottom of the page.
Regardless, we aren't debating about sources
>>71506828
It is a misunderstanding to call online debates "pointless" because you "can't win." There are many benefits of debate, and "winning" is not one of them. Debate forces you to articulate your ideas, it forces you to face and consider counter-arguments, it exposes both parties to information or ideas they hadn't considered. Even if both walk away with the same opinions, they are at least refined opinions. The most idiotic opinions are usually the result of a lack of exposure to contrary ideas. And believe it or not, many people do change their opinions over time, but it is a gradual process, not an instant transformation.
>>71506828
Fuck off space nigger or we'll deport you to the moon
>>71503298
this. OP handled the discussion pretty poorly. his only good response was the TV one.
>>71506933
True and thats what I mean unless someone can show a bodycam of his parents being appreheneded not much else here because he seems like a decent person not running around gangbanging.
>>71506943
yeah if you really want to use wikipedia stuff thats the correct way.
Why are you letting this faggot disrespect Americans like that OP? There are hard workers in America, he just wouldn't know it outside his Barrio.
>>71506836
DUDE YOU JUST GOT BAITED BY AGREEING WIH HIS NEUTRAL RESPONSE, THIS IS WHY HE'S SLAMMING IT BACK WITH HIS ORIGINAL ARGUMENT
>>71506836
Except that illegals aren't only working in the fields, they do construction, gardening, and anything else that is manual and easy. And that the people on welfare are mostly blacks, most whites have jobs, and if they dont, they are millenials, or homeless.
>>71499929
Not your army.
Cockfag (you)
>>71506365
The oven is in the kitchen, don't forget to heat it up before you enter
>>71506836
Except that they're getting citizenship after the fact instead of before, which is the whole problem.
>>71506976
This
This is the whole point of free speech.
>>71507061
They stand outside of Home Depot. I see them every day on my way to work.
>mexishits work harder than anyone meme
As someone who comes from a family who has owned and/or run farms since the early 1800s up until 1990s, I can't stand this meme.
>>71506836
Just because you or your family didn't get any welfare, doesn't mean nobody should get it.
I heard that many US jobs moved to mexico: Is it because mexicans are hardworking? Maeby. Is it because it's cheap? Definitely.
Does mexico have welfare system like US? No?
No wonder the crimerate is so high in there.
>>71506836
Why can't they wait in Mexico and give those field jobs to legal immigrants? We only accept over a million of them every year
>>71507171
>up until 1990s
What happened?
>>71507171
Scary pepe
Am spook
>>71507171
>up until 1990s
it's a sad world we live in. white farmers are truly a dying breed and it's very sad
fuck the world we live in, Jeffersonian democracy forever
>>71507171
>meme
As a percentage more mexicans do manual labor than any other race. There's no meme to be found.
