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Why did the Germans declare war if Hitler had rebuilt and made their country great


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Why did the Germans declare war if Hitler had rebuilt and made their country great again why would they just throw that all away for war?
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>>71403317
Very good question.
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>>71403317
Because he could win. Russia is where he made the mistake.
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because this board is satire. hitler run his countryinto the ground so he needed to start war.
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To liberate oppressed germans in neighboring countries. All went well until the blood-thirsty anglos waged war as usual.
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The real reason is that the growth Hitler achieved was unsustainable. He had to go to war because the inevitable result of peace was another economic collapse. It's for this same reason that I believe China may begin war soon itself, though the situations are not comparable.
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He wasn't alligned with either the commie jews or the banker jews so he had to go.
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OP hasn't read Mein Kampf.
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>>71403601
>OY VEY MUH OPPRESSED KRAUTS

kill yourself you quisling
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>>71403317
Poland had super aggressive rhetoric and made Germany and Hitler look weak, since war is super hard to control on the defensive, his boys were really concered that Poland, who had gone into pacts that nullified the versaille treate, would shock attack Berlin out of the blue, sorta like we see with Russia Turkey but much worse + reports of Germans being beaten, raped and murdered all over central and eastern Germany. Then Britain and France declared it a World War, started sinking german ships in an instant, almost lost, get JewSA involved directly and then blamed it all on blonde germans who were genocided, then they said germans were the real genociders...
It's pretty much text book bully in action...
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Germany didn't declare war. The British and French governments declared war on Germany after they German government refused the British ultimatum.
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>>71403966
MUSLIMBRO BRINGING THE HEAT
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>>71403317
He was just taking back our German clay back from Poland. After that, things would have settled down. No WW2, no holocaust. But no, the eternal anglo had to declare war against us.
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>>71404167
Poland was gone for 123 years and Poles where told to never use Polish language again.
What did Germans expect? To heal such scar you need centuries.
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>>71403317
First, that Newspaper article is from fucking 1914.

Secondly, what do you mean by declaring war? Do you mean the invasion of Poland? Do you mean when Britain and France declared war on Germany? Do you mean when Hitler curbstomped France? Occupied Denmark and Norway? Operation Barbarossa? What?


Germany had to invade Poland, because the Polish corridor separated East Prussia from the rest of Germany, and made it indefensible. Danzig, a city which was 95% German, was in the hands of the Poles, who had been treating ethnic-Germans poorly, and were effectively ethnically-cleansing Germans from the Polish corridor(the part given to them from Germany post-WWI).

The Poles refused to give Hitler a customs-free railroad corridor to connect East Prussia with the rest of Germany. Mostly because the English wanted to keep Germany weak. And with the British war guarantee, Poland didn't see it as beneficial to their own national interests to capitulate to German demands, or to cede control of the major port of Danzig.

After Britain and France declared war with Germany, everything else was inevitable.
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>>71403601
>>71403966

>The Czechs, Hitler claimed, were slaughtering the Sudeten Germans.

>he decided to punish all Serbs as the main enemies of his new Nazi order. The ministry of Joseph Goebbels, with the support of the Bulgarian, Italian, and Hungarian press, was given the task of stimulating anti-Serb sentiment among Croats, Slovenians and Hungarians.
>The propaganda of the Axis powers accused the group of persecution of minorities and the establishment of the concentration camps for ethnic Germans in order to justify an attack on Yugoslavia

>As part of this long-term policy, Hitler at first pursued a policy of rapprochement with Poland, trying to improve German–Polish relations
>Hitler proclaimed that Poland had attacked Germany and that "Germans in Poland are persecuted with a bloody terror and are driven from their homes.

the little fucking weasel
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>>71404276

If I were a muslim I'd be krautlicking like the Dane.
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Because Hitler was a mentally ill drug addict who was given supreme power of the most advanced military in the world and thought he could be Russia and USA.
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>>71404167
>Germans being beaten, raped and murdered all over central and eastern Germany. Then Britain and France declared it a World War, started sinking german ships in an instant

taqyiia
THE ETERNAL KRAUT PILPUL
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>>71404235
>Germany didn't declare war

Liar. How pathetic are you shamelessly lie about a well known fact?
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>>71403456
It seems to me like stopping the communists was always the end game
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>>71404483
i'm polish i don't give a fuck about your opinion or about this thread. but i hate muslim countries like yours. and serbia
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>>71403317

And OP because that's what Germans do. They were scum of the earth who thankfully don't exist anymore.

They think they can lie and steal and attack their way into greatness but every time they get assfucked into submission.

The question isn't about Germans though. The question is how do we deal with grandsons of people who assfucked Germany becoming faggot krautlickers?
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>>71404620
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_and_French_declaration_of_war_on_Germany

Germany declared war on the US, not on the European allies.

How pathetic are you to not know anything about the first 24 hours of WWII?
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>>71403317
Because they couldn't sustain themselves so they went out looking for "sponsorships".
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>>71404471
>>71404393
If only Hitler had taken the German populated areas of Poland and stopped there, like Russia did with Crimea recently, he could have been fine.
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>>71403317
It was Hitler who declared the war.

From the very start he began to rearm Germany for a future war. His massive public spending on the army almost bankrupted the country. If he hadn't had gone to war the economy would have collapsed.
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>>71404730

Someone helping your victim isn't an excuse to go full retard.

>>71404751
>German populated
>The so-called Polish Corridor constituted land long disputed by Poland and Germany, and inhabited by a Polish majority
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>>71404778
>rearm Germany for a future war

That alone is enough to excuse an pre-emptive invasion and occupation of Germany. Problem is, no one expected savage scum that is Germans to act like savage scum, for some reason.
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>>71404380
yeah seriously the germans partitionned poland so many times they are not without fault there.
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>>71404683
Exactly, anyone who says "Hitler fucked up when he went to war with Russia", is a fucking idiot.

Stalin had six million troops in an offensive position on the Soviet Western border, and Hitler wasn't going to force a British surrender.

Hitler hated the communists. And the entire fucking war was about National Socialism vs Soviet Communism. Germany wanted absolutely nothing to do with Britain or France. Hitler practically begged for an Anglo-German alliance, repeatedly.
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>>71404840
>Polish Corridor constituted land long disputed by Poland and Germany, and inhabited by a Polish majority

Oh man, so the Polish corridor was blocking Hitler's way to rescuing Danzig, I see. So Hitler had no choice but to attack, as a man of honor.
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Because the "economic miracle" he achieved was a bubble supported by the jobs the preparatory war effort created, it was never going to last.

Hell, even his invasion of Russia was a desperate attempt to gain natural resources, it's also why he had to overextend himself and get trounced in North Africa for oil
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>>71404923
>rescuing Danzig

From what? Being free and under worldwide protection?
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>>71405020
Comparing white populations in Germany and Poland today, I have to admit you might be right.
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>>71404840
Your autism knows no bounds. I said Britain and France declared war on Germany. That is a fact. There is no way around this. They declared war on Nazi Germany on 3rd September 1939 and the declaration of war was read allowed by Chamberlain. Why is this so hard for you to understand? I don't care if Hitler was being mean to Poland or anything, all I am saying is that title of OP is factually incorrect.
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>>71405190
>I said Britain and France declared war on Germany

Yes. After Germany declared war on Czechoslovakia and Poland.
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>>71404981
Look at this pseudo-history.

Hitler had been talking about "Lebensraum" for more than a decade before war broke out(its in fucking Mein Kampf for Christ's sake). Hitler's goal was basically "National self-sufficiency" or "Autarky". But Germany didn't have the resources necessary to support its own population and industry.

Lebensraum was basically the amount of territory and resources needed to maintain German industry and population at a level which could keep it as powerful, or more powerful than other world powers. Namely, the massive Soviet Union, the United States of America, and the British and French empires.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-2q-QMUIgY
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>>71405190
>>71405227
>I'm an autist
>He's claiming invasion of Poland isn't technically a by-definition of a declaration of war

Nigger what don't you get. It was a Germany versus Poland war. Germany declared it.

France and Britain helped Poland. That's not hard to understand. Their fault for the events isn't what I'm talking about. A lesser known fact is that Britain caused the whole persecution of Jews thing.
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>>71405335

Are you aware that you start your post by disagreeing with that anon then end it by agreeing with them?
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>>71403317
>Why did the Germans declare war if Hitler had rebuilt and made their country great again why would they just throw that all away for war?

That's the whole point. Germany wanted to settle thing with Poland, but the Brits and Frenchies just used the Polish crisis as an excuse for war, because their economies were vastly in shit, compared to German economy which was the only economy blooming in the 30's.
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>>71403317
He was defending himself. The jews went after him because he told the banks they can fuck off since they were pillaging Germany.
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>>71403794
Fuck outta here with that forgery.
If you want Hitler's words on the whole thing read his second book.
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>>71405362
You are actually so stupid its shocking. You should be embarrassed. How do you come up with this bull?
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>>71403606
>The real reason is that the growth Hitler achieved was unsustainable

how can you know this? the economic program and growth of the Third Reich was interrupted by WW2, and we never had a chance to see another system like that in a long period of peace to see if it is actually sustainable or not. It's no wonder we didn't get to see that ever since, because the success of National Socialism is a guarantee that the capitalist system would fall in an instant and the banking system as well with it, and we all know who can't allow that to happen.
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>>71404981
It could've lasted, had he not started effing up Europe. Imagine if Hitler was a neo-colonialist and started all his wars outside of Europe after unifying the german areas? They would probably still be the leading power in the world. "Don't shit where you eat"
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>>71405498

... that's not a counter-argument. You're saying Britain and France started the war, when in fact, they were helping Poland defend against Germany.

It was Germany who started the war.
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>>71405335
>But Germany didn't have the resources necessary to support its own population and industry.

Yes, that's what I was talking about. Did you mean to respond to my post?
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>>71405566
>who can't allow that to happen.
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>>71405227
>Yes. After Germany declared war on Czechoslovakia and Poland.
There was no Declaration of War. The Czechs didn't even fight. The Poles were being dumb, antagonizing war with Germany, thinking England was going to save them.

>>71405418
The way he presented it, was as if Hitler, only after realizing his "economic miracle" was unsustainable, decided to suddenly invade Russia, merely to save the German economy.

I was trying to point out, that the invasion of the Soviet Union was planned more than a decade earlier. This wasn't some kind of spur of the moment kind of thing.
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>>71403317
They wanted their shit back
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>>71405729
>There was no Declaration of War

Act of war == declaration of war.
So all you're saying that he didn't suddenly realize running half of a continent of puppet states isn't cheap;

that he knew that from the beginning?
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>mfw Britcucks and Frenchfags think they're righteous for going to war for Poland when they made no attempt to save Poland and ignored the Soviet declaration of war and later gave Poland to the USSR
It is sweet poetic justice that Britain lost her Empire and France her credibility.
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>>71405831
T-thanks my emu friend
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>>71405831
>made no attempt to save Poland

How fitting that you post your bull's minister of lies while spouting ignorant lies.
Declaration of war and opening a western front is de-facto an attempt to save Poland.
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>>71405711
You are wrong insofar as the German economy wasn't built on some bubble that was going to pop any day. The German economy depended on the import of foreign resources. And once war broke out, many of Germany's trading partners ended up on the opposite side of the war, and thus they cut off exports to Germany. And this was the nature of the need to gain control of more territory.

This same principle applies to Japan as well, who destroyed the America Naval fleet at Pearl Harbor to prevent America from preventing it from taking the East Indies, after America cut off oil exports to Japan.

Japan couldn't continue fighting without access to oil and rubber, which is why it took the Dutch East Indies.


Basically, the entire fucking war was about resources, not some vague economic bubble.
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Nobody talks about how the Soviets stomped the Nazis 6th army in operation Uranus. Those Comies fucked you Nazi's up the ass, and I'm just left rolling on the floor.
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>>71403317
Living space was literally the reason. But in terms of Czechoslovakia and Poland it was because there was a large German minority he wanted under his flag. France was because the UK and France were promised to protect Poland so he needed to knock them out fast so he could focus on just on us and its Eastern Front. If he didn't invade The Netherlands and Belgium giving him direct access to Paris and bypassing the French armies he wouldn't have got as far as he did.
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>>71404276

not one Bosnia Muslim hate Germans.that is probably Serb or descendant of partisan scum.
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>>71405566
Historical records
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>>71405992
>what was the phoney war
You'd think that once the Soviets invaded the Allies would have ramped up and attacked to save Poland before it fell, but no. Nothing happened. Not even a declaration of war against the Soviets for doing exactly what Germany did that started the war in the first place.
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>>71405335
>>71406015
I'm confused, you said initially that invading Poland was simply a long-term goal of Hitler's to create lebensraum, now you're saying they only invaded Poland after the war broke out, which is ignoring that war only broke out because of the Polish invasion.

You're mixing up the effect and the cause.
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>>71405827
And Britain, France, and the Soviet Union weren't running puppet states? Give me a fucking break.
Britain in 1939, was still the largest empire in world history.

Poland wasn't going to be some neutral country regardless. Either it was going to be swallowed up by the Soviet Union(which is basically what happened). It was going to become a German colony, or it had to become Britain's lapdog.

Britain needed to prevent Germany from becoming any more powerful. And so they told Poland not to even talk to Hitler.

Poland also didn't want Germany from becoming any more powerful. And with the British war guarantee, it believed it could basically do whatever it wanted, and Hitler wasn't going to do shit about it.


Guess what? Poland fucked up.

Go read "Churchill, Hitler, and the unnecessary war", by Pat Buchanan. Holy fuck.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NSI5LkRGOKg
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Same reason Putin invaded Eastern Ukraine.

People of his same ethne (Genes, langauge and culture) were being shat on and he wanted to stand up for his own kind.

The globalist jews don't want anyone but jews to have an ethne, that's why people like Soros are anti-white and want to destroy white culture and promote race mixing and no borders.
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>>71406289
hmm

The campaign of mass persecution in the newly acquired areas began immediately. In November 1939 the Soviet government ostensibly annexed the entire Polish territory under its control. Some 13.5 million Polish citizens who fell under the military occupation were made into new Soviet subjects following mock elections conducted by the NKVD secret police in the atmosphere of terror,[9][10] the results of which were used to legitimize the use of force. The Soviet campaign of ethnic cleansing began with the wave of arrests and summary executions of officers, policemen and priests.[Note 5][11][12] Over the next year and a half, the Soviet NKVD sent hundreds of thousands of people from eastern Poland to Siberia and other remote parts of the Soviet Union in four major waves of deportation between 1939 and 1941.[Note 6]

this sounds like bullshit
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>>71406331
>Poland fucked up.

How? By not submitting their leadership over to Germany?
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>>71404276
>Muslimbro
>Checks poster's flag
No surprise
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>>71406360
>Putin invaded Eastern Ukraine

Wrong.
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>>71403317
Germany didn't start the war. England and France did.
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>>71406387

I mean it sounds like usual anti-Soviet propaganda, not factual information. Why would a multinational federation prosecute an ethnic group?
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>>71406546
Wrong.
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>>71406546

based and honest French bro <3
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>>71406387
>sounds like bullshit
Not really. The Judeo-Bolshveiks were well known for their unrivaled cruelty.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katyn_massacre
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>>71403601
he literraly kill serbs to save muslims

Hitler was an ass and stormfags who adore him are retards just the same and no different than the extreme left.
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>>71406567

eat dick partisan/tito loving serb faggot
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>>71406611
He killed Serbs to save catholic Croatians
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>>71406302
>now you're saying they only invaded Poland after the war broke out
I never said anything of the sort.

I said, Hitler's goal was lebensraum, which was really just a policy of "Autarky" or "self-sufficiency". Basically, Germany needed to maintain political, military, and economic control of a territory large enough to guarantee German industry access to all the resources it needed. Either Germany needed to expand German territory, or it needed to maintain a friendly alliance with neighboring states(such as the case with Sweden).

This is why Hitler occupied Norway, Britain was trying to cut-off iron shipments from Sweden, which were being shipped through Norwegian ports.

This is why Hitler needed Czechoslovakia, and the vast farmlands of Poland and Ukraine, among other places.


Either those countries would need to form Nazi governments and create effectively a perpetual alliance with Hitler, or they would be colonized. But Hitler's Germany could not function without those resources.

In any case, what Hitler didn't colonize, the Soviets later did. So whatever.
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>>71406583

Has it been proven? You know that all of these evils of the Soviet Union are told by its Cold-War enemy and the butthurt belt?
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>>71406710

because Croats are not mongrel scum.
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>>71406546
fuck off hans
everybody was aware of hitler plan to invade the rest of europe after austich and poland
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>>71406546
That's like punching someone in the face, then saying they started the fight by punching back.
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>>71406710

... from what? Not even Croatians claim this. And Croats claim a lot of retarded shit.
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>>71406753
>In November 2010, the Russian State Duma approved a declaration blaming Stalin and other Soviet officials for having personally ordered the massacre
Yeah.
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>>71406783

No no, they're just a mix of Slavs, Mongols, Germans, and Italians.
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>>71406819
From Serbs
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>>71403317

to get back

>RIGHTFUL
>GERMAN
>CLAY
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>>71404730
this. Ops picture is WWI, not two.
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>>71406611
Hitler wished that Europe had accepted Islam in order to ride itself of the slave morality that is christianity

in hindsight he wasn't really wrong, the European degeneracy of the 21st century would have been easily avoided if the continent had converted to islam
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>>71406441
Poland fucked up, because they tried to play tough guy, and got knocked the fuck out.

Had the Polish government not been a bunch of fucking idiots. Its population likely would have been saved from the atrocities of war. It wouldn't have lost its Eastern territories to Belarus and Ukraine, and it wouldn't have been colonized by Russians for the next 50 years.


The British played them for suckers.
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>>71406880
Where and what?
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>>71406710
>Return
no he didn't he literally did to help muslim bosnians and albanians etc who he literally worshipped built mosque in berlin ally with islam adore the koran and he was buddies with the mufti

the guy was a giant heroin faggot using cuck who fucked up so hard and was a giant liar and against the white race.

he got his soldiers killed, generals fail fucked up what could have been betrayed all russians slavs because he considered slavs subhuman WHO ARE LITERALLY MORE WHITE THAN HIS MANLET ASS

fuck you shithead he invaded us he attacked denmark and you cunts helped him but without the balls yourself to join him.

fuck you Sweden and germany race traitors and anti white anti europe since dawn of time.
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>>71405699

Germany started a War with Poland, but France and Britains declaration made it a World War.
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>>71406725
>iron to brits
LOL sweden supplied Germany, fuck off.
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>>71406842

Hm. Alright then. But to look at it objectively, the Serbian government apologized for Srebrenica and we al know that's a bunch of bullshit.
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>>71406998

serbs dindu nuffin
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>>71406925
In Yugoslavia during world war 2
>>71406967
We sold iron to both sides
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>>71406936

Pretty sure the Soviets, Americans and Japanese getting involved made it a world war.
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>>71406998
Difference is Russia didn't lose the war so they could quite easily have just denied it like the Turks do with the Armenian Genocide.
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>>71406806
The perfidious Anglo supported them. They wanted the nazis and the commies to kill each other and destroy the Europe.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9Lievywdoo
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>>71407041
>In Yugoslavia during world war 2

Where and what?
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>>71406919
it would have been avoided had germany not destroyed christianity from within with their protestantism and swedish church also helped cucking europe as did the brits with theirs. ask yourself WHY christianity changed instead!
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>>71403317

Same reason that the japs bombed pearl harbour. Because war was imminent and as they needed to gain a strategic advantage through surprise to offset their comparative lack of resources
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>>71407083

Russia on its own would have interest in not denying it. They can easily say yeah the Union did it but it was Ukraine or <insert another butthurt belt state> who did the killings.
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>>71407041
except you didn't at all more lies from you traitors I hope one day we and the danish and finns do away with you once and for all you have always backstabbed your allies and neighbors much like germany you can never be trusted you are the white kike devil
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>>71403317
Germany was in the verge of economic collapse in 1939
The average German quality of life didn't grow at all in the 6 years before the war
So he needed to sustain the country with something elese besides producing guns and tanks
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>>71406967
>LOL sweden supplied Germany, fuck off.
Did you even read what I said?

In winter, Sweden's northern ports freeze up. And its iron ore, at the time, would be loaded up onto trains and shipped to Norwegian ports, which didn't freeze, and then shipped down through Denmark to Germany.

Britain, under Churchill, wanted to stop those shipments from Germany, by taking control of those Norwegian ports. Believing that without iron shipments from Sweden, Germany could not sustain its war effort.

Churchill's plan to violate Norway's neutrality, to prevent these shipments, is what precipitated Hitler into occupying Denmark and Norway, thus protecting its flow of Iron.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norwegian_Campaign#Initial_plans

http://www.historynet.com/scandinavian-twist-churchills-1940-fiasco-in-norway.htm
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>>71407230

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywiHc6PCfWg

come again?
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>>71404717
Good thing you're on this board, poljak. This is the only place in the world that takes Poles and Hungarians seriously.
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>>71407230
more lies German economy had become stable and grow once again before Hitler took power. More lies lies lies lies the man even had his worse election the last election because most germans knew he was an ass.

boy would things be different had he been assassinated and the none degenerate sensible generals ruled germany. no war on russia, no war on america and a plan on how to deal with the brits and better choices in allies etc.

I have had enough of the worshipping of this fucking failure, dude accomplished nothing except getting tens of millions whites dead killed leaving europe to be cucked and now invaded by his glorious islam he so much loved.

the moment he had some desert rat tell him what to do and give him advice over his generals they should have shot him then and there. you cannot be for white race and do that shit.
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>>71407368

And? You are blaming the good side for making counter measures.

To parallel, you are blaming a cop for defending himself from a nigger.
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>>71407368
lies, more lies, you swedes must be one of the lost "tribes"
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>>71407489
>blaming the good side

good side...my god...
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>>71407489
I'm not trying to "blame" anyone. What I'm saying is just as I said in my first post. >>71404393

>After Britain and France declared war with Germany, everything else was inevitable.

I understand why Germany did it, they had to, their national interests demanded it. Germany was caught between the British, French, and Soviet Empires. All of which hated Germany. And Stalin's plan, was to build up a massive Army and take the entire continent.

Had America not been around to save Europe, who would have stopped Stalin?
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>>71407551
in hindsight USSR was far superior to Germany.

We would probably all be 100% white in Europe now had they taken over it all.

Stalin was obviously more based than Hitler ever was and they also reached all milestones quicker.
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>>71407551

It was Germany who acted like a kike and a nigger.

Admittedly, antante fucked up by not dismantling Germany in 1918 or by accepting kike refugees, but they're still the good side in the whole ordeal.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPGPsgDTW6k
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>>71407687
bullshit we know for a fact Stalin had no such plans, we know because of the events that took place showed no such buildup whatsoever and Stalin was outraged and considered Germany an ally.

again you fuckers try and change history. Also do not pretend Stalin was a commie, man was straight up single ruler who even did away with the commies and their henchmen
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>>71404471
>with the support of the Bulgarian, Italian, and Hungarian press, was given the task of stimulating anti-Serb sentiment among Croats

there was no need for that. The Croats despised the serbs already for a very, very long time.
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If Hitler used all resources to invade the UK and northern africa instead of Russia then America would never be able to join, the Suez would be his, Italy would have the support needed to become strong enough to be relied upon and all Hitlers lies would have been accomplished but fact is he gave zero shits about whites and tried to kill the white race instead. He had zero reason to ally with the japs and instead should have let Russia fight their war with them and make asia white and permanent cucked.

I could go on.
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>>71407914

Actually not really. Contrary to popular belief due to being German puppets, Croatia aside from not being a state also wasn't important in the region nor was anyone - Serbs especially - interested in it.

Only when it became obvious that things will change, did things change. When big parts of what was to become a Croatian state were Serb-dominated area, conflicts started.

Look up Ilija Grasanin and Anto Starcevic.
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>>71407836
Bullshit, we know for a fucking fact that Stalin absolutely had those exact plans. Do you really think Stalin didn't have expansionist plans? Go fucking educate yourself.

America drew a line across Europe from the border of East Germany, down to Italy, and told the Soviets not to cross that line or they were going to war with the United States. Otherwise the Soviets would have rolled their tanks to the Atlantic.

What do you think happened in Eastern Europe after WWII? Why did the Soviet Union even exist to begin with? Was it an alliance of friendly nations? Absolutely not.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_offensive_plans_controversy
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>>71408112
friendly reminder Battle of Britain was won single handedly.
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>>71408186

There's a difference between a federation and a nationalist state invading a country.
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>>71408112
Hitler couldn't have invaded the UK. Not because of the Britfags but because the currents and wind direction of the Channel simply was against him.
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>>71403317
Germans have a serious mental disorder where they feel the need to be subjugated and humiliation is their orgasmic release.

Tell average German needs to feel like a slave (see their work ethic) and not too dissimilar from a dog needs clear leadership, luckily the Anglo master race has always been there to keep them in check.
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>>71408112
>If Hitler used all resources to invade the UK
Hitler was never going to invade the UK, period.

There was a joke, where some British person asked some British Admiral whether or not Germany would invade. The Admiral said, "I don't know if Germany will come, but I know they won't come by sea."

Germany had hoped Britain would basically get tired of being bombed and seek peace. In fact, Rudolf Hess flew into the UK, hoping to accomplish the peace treaty.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rudolf_Hess
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>>71405699
sorry but in what way they helped us? My memory is foggy in this place...
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>>71408214
He expended most against the russians imagine all that on the western front before america can join, exactly.

>>71408186
bullshit lies there was never such plans again you try and make shit up to excuse the behavior of a retard, good luck taking stalingrad instead of moscow genius Hitler was a fucking clown and traitor
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pbIrMtmU98

you stormfags got it all backwards, Stalin was the white race hero our savior our leader and he should have been the man we followed. While the left should follow hitler the cuck socialist who loves muslims and hates kikes and capitalism, change the two and it fits like a glove.

Stalin=hero of the right
Hitler=hero of the faggot left
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>>71408333
I disagree strongly but
well whatever worst case you were contained no american allies for you and they could focus north africa suez and propping up italy, settle spain and eastern europe and maybe even join russia war declaration against japan which in itself would make it impossible for a pearl harbor to bring america to war against germany.
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>>71408419
>HESS
dude... you are now talking about things out of order. But thanks for illustrating further how retarded hitler was with that move.
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>>71408112

Operation sealion (Proposed inv. of UK) would have been a catastrophic defeat for the Germans, they couldn't establish air superiority over the north sea - the RAF would have sunk half of the invasion force before it even hit Dover. Also the north sea is a very rough sea, and the wind and currents were just too unpredictable to guarantee a direct passage across the channel. Even if they did hit the shores, they will have met significant resistance and it would be a very one sided fight for us. If Sealion went ahead, it would be cited along with Stalingrad as one of the German's most humiliating defeats of the war.

Hitler didn't even wanna invade us, he wanted friendly relations with the UK - we just wouldn't side with him.
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>>71408219
Ok, so what? Stalin was basically carrying out the goals of all socialists, a worldwide revolution.

If you like communism, fine, defend Stalin. But that is what Stalin wanted. And he was going to accomplish this by force, just as he was already doing in the Soviet Union. Which was hardly a union, it was an empire. A Russian master country, and its puppet-state colonies(called Soviet Republics), with unelected communist governments.
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>>71408689
>Wouldn't side with him
or russia.

You are also anti Putin now, you guys always had a hard on for Russia.
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>>71408641
What move are you talking about?
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>>71408702
>stalin commie
lol no, Hitler was the socialist, Hitler was the anti capitalist who talked revolutions alongside Sweden.
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>>71408786
the move your niggers pull on you everyday.
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>>71407074
>Two of the largest empires declaring war doesn't make it a world war

Seriously whogivesashitistan has a terrible education system, you're completely retarded!
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>>71408819
Both Stalin and Hitler were Socialists. Hitler wanted a worldwide nationalist revolution. Stalin wanted a worldwide internationalist revolution.

Basically, the Soviet Union had actually wanted to destroy the very notion of nation-states altogether, blending all people's into one mega-state.

Hitler had a fatherland, he didn't want Germany to simply be absorbed into some massive international state.

http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/hitler-and-the-socialist-dream-1186455.html
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>>71404730
Wasn't Poland part of the alliance as soon as Britain made it clear they would declare war if Hitler pushed?
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>>71408702

With all my hate for communism I can't help but laugh at you tools when you claim that akin to Yugoslavia, the Soviet Union was an attempt of Russians to forge their own empire.

Nigger Stalin wasn't Russian. He was Georgian. Tito wasn't a Serb. Most of the communist party wasn't comprised of Russians/Serbs.

To this day Russia is (admittedly mostly Russian) but a huge FEDERATION of Russian and NON-Russian territories.

On the other hand, Germans were NATIONAL socialists. They conquered Poland in the name of GERMAN NATIONAL SOCIALISM.
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>>71403317
England and France declared war on him.
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>>71408978
yeah Hitler wanted to integrate with muslims and dreg his utopia was 72 virgins, fuck off

>from Stalin to Hitler
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SW9PDj1jqRU

He unlike cuck faggot heroin addict and white race traitor kept his promise and beat the shit out of little manlet Hitler.
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>>71409059
>le repeat a lie enough times and it becomes the truth
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>>71404167

>Poland was being super aggressive

I find this really hard to believe considering how utterly annihilated they got
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>>71403317
>Why did the Germans declare war if Hitler had rebuilt and made their country great again

Because that new military etc had to be paid for somehow, manufacturers didn't work for free, so what better way to do it than to write-off American/European loans Germany was living off and indebted to and to raid foreign accounts,annex and invade.

Hitler and Germany were on borrowed time and and everything he made was on credit :^)
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>>71406919
So you should join ISIS then, they are doing Hitler's work now.
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>>71409272
>>71406919

The truth comes out.
Nazism == Jihad
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>>71408998
It was a Soviet Empire faggot. Not necessarily Russian. But the entire Soviet Union was being controlled by Moscow. And the other "Soviet Republics" functionally operated as colonies within this mega-empire.


As for Germany, Hitler needed more territory. He was going up against the massive Soviet Union. Compare the fucking size of the Soviet Union to Germany and you'll understand the problem. It would be like Bosnia trying to go to war with France.


Germany needed resources. He knew that once the Soviet Union stabilized from Stalin's purges, and finished industrializing. Its sheer size, manpower, and control of resources, would make it impossible to stop.


Either Germany had to destroy the Soviet Union before it became too strong, and Germany would have become the little bitch it is now.
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>>71409374
Mega empire ruled by its parts.
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>>71409272
That is the difference between True white people like Russia and some of us others vs Americans angle so called "aryan" is you fuck with white you want war of annihilation then you get it but if you rape a swedish or american or german they surrender and suffer Stockholm syndrome.
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>>71409374
AND HE SUCCEEDED GERMANY WAS DESTROYED!

now cheer! /s
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>>71405444

The only thing we were really ready for a way with was the Ottomans

Churchill absolutely despised them
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>>71409580
well not difficult to understand he saw first hand how the sand rats were. Hitler did to but instead fell in love baka
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>>71408978
>Stalin wanted a worldwide internationalist revolution.
Nice meme. That would be Trotskiy and other prominent revolutionaries that Stalin purged. He realized that worldwide revolution would be too much for USSR to handle in its current state and focused more on trying to develop and survive the impeding war.
>We are fifty or a hundred years behind the advanced countries. We must make good this distance in ten years. Either we do it, or they will crush us.
>Stalin said this in 1931, at the beginning of the rapid industrialization campaign. Ten years later, Nazi Germany invaded the Soviet Union.
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>>71406546

You'd love to believe that Germany would never have gone for you after all the land-grabbing you did after Versailles

France reaped what it sowed
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nMDjKtTigQ&ebc=ANyPxKoyWx2wjl_0STxuRQjzjP0lVvG1sZvbluhT1quWx9KL4qB6sF8od9BHw--wJDR0KJCPzWdu

final speech by the true hero of WW2

the man hijacked by the left and their sick minds.
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>>71408578

No it's been analysed to death here.

Even if Germany won "The Battle of Britain" it would have been extremely hard

Once they lost air superiority it was over
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>>71409490
Regardless, as things were in 1933, Germany was too small to remain a world power unless it either gained new territory, or gained new allies.

Germany was dependent on international trade, and international trade was being controlled by international financiers, most of them being Jews. The only way to get out from under the thumb of the Jew, was to make Germany "self-sufficient".


Thus, in order for Germany not to either be conquered, or otherwise taken-over or extorted by some other world power. It had to gain access to more resources, and to free itself from dependency on foreign trade, especially with hostile nations.


Germany would have been perfectly happy creating a "customs union"(IE a free-trade union), with "friendly nations". Basically, a Nazi equivalent of the European Union.

But in the case of Poland, the government did not trust Germany. And after Pilsudski died, Poland became increasingly allied with Britain. Because it became increasingly nervous, being caught in the middle of the Germans and the Soviets.

Either Poland was going to have to ally with Hitler, or with the Soviets, or with Britain. It chose what it thought was the best option of the three.

My position is that, I think it would have been better-off allying with Hitler. Pilsudski and Hitler had a good relationship, and Hitler went to his funeral.
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>>71409948
>no no no
yes, why you think you could have invaded europe on your own? that you could halt Germany and its allies by yourself especially in a scenario where they did not declare war on Russia?
lol
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>>71408578
>no navy
>no air support

how do you propose to invade britain sir general hitler sir?
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>>71410069

I'm on about Operation Sealion

Still wonder why America loves the Irish so much considering they're refueling the U-boats that were sinking their supply ships
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>>71407054
Underrated post, this was in 1933.
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>>71405569
> Imagine if Hitler was a neo-colonialist and started all his wars outside of Europe

The world was already under the control of big nation , he couldn't start a war in china without expecting a reaction from england or france.
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>>71410058
oh here it comes, Hitler would win if not for the Jews.

All that does, such a discussion is settle once and for all Jews are superior to Germans. Jews did not make Hitler declare war, Jews were not sitting in Hitlers war room making his decisions. Jews did not even manage to get America to join the war unless of course jews made japs attack pearl harbor, make hitler ally with Japan and force hitler to declare war on USA in support of the japs.

we can beat this over the head for years but fact is, Hitler was a cuck fuckup retard that destroyed western Europe. The excuse that he needed to get more land and attack russia for money or what, international sanctions at the time? you don't think china and russia suffered?

so they took france, poland, fine, do not attack russia next, do not ally with retarded chinks, do not piss on america and focus instead on europe mainland and africa.

and do not build fucking mosques and make a muslim sand rat you strategic adviser while you ignore your generals. Another outcome would have been if Hitler killed himself sooner he would have saved millions of white people and perhaps even his military gains.

In the end when faced with surrendering or more white people dead and raped he choice for his own mad ego destruction of Germany and occupation before saving as many lives as he could BECAUSE HE GAVE ZERO SHIT ABOUT WHITE people. that its the truth.
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>>71410188
many irish americans in america.

>>71410102
they were building up a strong air force and navy of course they did not take the time to do that properly and got themselves way overextended by poor strategical decisions which is my point.
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>>71410406
Agreed Hitler was a fucking idiot who never had the white races best interests at heart.
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>>71410058
>cont..
The problem from Poland's perspective was that, it was worried Hitler would eventually demand back the Polish corridor. Hitler had originally demanded a rail corridor from Germany to East Prussia. Germany could not defend East Prussia without it. If East Prussia had suddenly been invaded, German troops would have had to march across Polish territory to defend it.

But the German rail corridor, would have cut through Poland. Which would have threatened Poland's security. So it was not in the interest of Poland to allow it.


Either Poland and Germany needed to form an alliance, or they were going to war. There was no other way around it.

The question is, who really benefited from Poland not allying with Hitler? Did Poland actually benefit in the end?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mA0kk29DBA
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>>71403317
The Russians had to be stopped. They quite openly intended to absorb Europe into their empire, and had to be stopped before they could complete their industrialization.

Hitler knew that the Soviets were going to be a problem, so he seized as much of Europe's infrastructure as possible and then fought them.

If Churchill had had an ounce more sense than a billiard ball, he would've supported the Nazis. It became RAPIDLY clear afterwards that the Soviets were a worse problem than Germany could ever have been, which is why the Germans were effectively put back into power with a leash and now run the continent.
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>>71410406
The Jews are just financiers, bankers. These bankers were financing the war. America was giving huge amounts of loans to the allied powers, and shipping them huge amounts of supplies, long before it ever became involved in the war.

They were also using their control of the media to sway public opinion.

If you don't understand what I'm talking about. I advise you read socialist and anarchist literature.

Read Mikhail Bakunin, or Lysander Spooner. Even the Socialists complained about "The Rothschilds".
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>>71410860
Oh wait, it's WWI.
Well, actually, it's the same answer. The Germans knew that Russia had to be defeated and partitioned before it could industrialize fully, and so a war with Russia was inevitable--but France was in the way. So the Germans tried to crush France fast so that they could fight Russia on their own terms.
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>>71410626
you make zero fucking sense now. Again, whatever theories you wanna pull out of your are we know when and what happened when Hitler attacked and make his invasion of the Soviet, objectively with facts we know Stalin had no invasion force on the ready. So at best Hitler had more time if such plans existed before going to attack you know maybe in a warmer fucking season baka you also argue as if Poland had no self interests no sovereignty or land, German stole shit first Germany took a ton of land from Denmark first. The man was not even a fucking german national but austrian and the amount of shit he did for nationalism vs white people while next minute claim he is for the white race... it is all bullshit I am shocked you stormfags have yet to make the accusation that Hitler was the kike when you take in all the facts and what happened in the end.

I do not see how one can be proud white and support the faggot. He invaded us, real white people like the danes and russians they knew what to do with the race traitors, I love the danes who forced german SS to clear mines on foot with a gun to their head, stupidity is no excuse. Real german heroes were people like Stauffenberg
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>>71410673
>that youtube vid
>that voice
Svenne banan
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>>71403606
>the growth Hitler achieved was unsustainable
Jesus when will this meme die?
Oh, right. When the ignorant retards will stop spouting bullshit.
>a stable system built on the work of the people
>0% unemployment rate
>unsustainable
>Why? Because lol the kikes say so.
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>>71409234
Poland during the time had a quite formidablr army and even won a war against the soviet union pre-ww2.
They had large manpower and large amounts of arms from previous wartime aid and a national military policy.

They never planned to attack alone, they would regularly try to drag France into a treaty for a two front war.

And fyi right before they were invaded the allies had amongst other things asked them to demobilize, to show leniency towards germany.
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>>71410880
>please support hitler and my BS narrative
>start reading socialism and anarchist literature
so far we got stormfags in here support Islam and are leftwing sucks, gotcha. Fuck off.
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>>71411340
>the growth Hitler achieved was unsustainable
>$10,000,000,000,000, of debt is totally normal and sustainable
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>>71410406
>so they took france, poland, fine, do not attack russia next, do not ally with retarded chinks, do not piss on america and focus instead on europe mainland and africa.
You have a poor understanding of international politics, and international commerce.
Hitler did not want France. Hitler only took France, because France and Britain declared war on Britain.
France and Englane were amassing a massive fucking Army in France. That is the same English Army that was evacuated at Dunkirk.
Had Germany not invaded France, France and England were going to invade Germany, period.

In order to stop Britain's invasion, it basically had to push Britain off the continent, and hold them off the continent.
And to keep Britain off the continent, it build a massive sea-wall at Normandy, and it occupied Belgium, the Netherlands, Denmark, and Norway.

Hitler didn't even hold all of France, because it wasn't trying to colonize France, it wanted to make France an ally. It wanted to make Britain an ally as well.

Hitler was fucking terrified of the Soviet Union. And why wouldn't he be? It became a superpower post-WWII. Merely because of its massive size and resources.


I mean, why do you think America became a superpower? Also because of our size and resources. It doesn't take a rocket-scientist to understand how this shit works.
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>>71411364
So in other words had they succeeded minimal losses for white people and no WW2 would happen and none of the shit we see today would take place and we would never have been invaded either. But thanks to an Austrian national concerned with the white race had to at all cost defend ze germans.

give me a break.

Hitler caused division amongst white people, helping to create different terms and labels for people all white. He attacked christianity and allied with Islam our eternal enemies for millennia as well but he is right and all our ancestors were wrong the crusades were wrong, huh?

fuck him HE was the traitor he betrayed us white people he murdered russians and pollacks and in the end chose death for his so called german brothers, he is scum and the true hero of the left.
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>>71404778
What the fuck is wrong with you

The economy was doing fine, the country wasn't even in total war economy until 1944. After the invasion of france, hitler ordered a decrease in weapons manufacturing. If anything, they didn't spend enough on military material goods
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>>71408486
Go suck a dick, you pseudo commie.
Stalin was an insane dictator that killed far more people than Hitler ever did.
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>>71411440
their economy already recovered and was going well when he started his shit he was less popular in the end when he took power.
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>>71411379
I'm not a fucking stormfag. If anything, I'm a voluntaryist. I just hate the bankers.

In any case, I just want to make sure you understand the war from the perspective of resources, and foreign policy.

Wars aren't won by ideas, they're won by power. Freedom doesn't win wars, guns and tanks and bombs do.


The question is, "What kind of world do we want to live in?", and then "How do we achieve that world?".
In the case of history, I have to question where things went wrong. Basically, how did the decisions of the past affect the future?


All I'm saying is, Hitler's defeat spelled the doom for nationalism, which was completely replaced with internationalism(IE globalism). Both the Soviets and the Capitalists were internationalists.
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>>71411467
>hitler did not want france

ROFL LOL LMAO ok you completely fucking lost it now, either trolling or zero knowledge of history.
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>>71404393
Danzig was in German hands. I was Free city with their own NSDAP ruling party, their own SS unit, and their own German military force.
The only who get persecuted were Polish workers, some even get murdered.
The Gemany have custom free railroad to Prussia. They were sealed trains and Poles don't even inspect them.
Poles were even let the Danzig go when their freshly build port(from scratch) get full operational.

Are you ignorant idiot or just liar?
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>>71404167

>t. Joseph Goebbels

hitler dindu nuffin
he a good boy bout to get his country on track
need mo marks for them autobahns
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>>71403317
>Germany declares War

But that's wrong you stupid motherfucker
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germans were being genocided in danzig
poland had the uk and france backing them up so they didn't budge
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>>71411718
Stalin killed white race traitors.

Hitler killed good white people, Stalin was not the one starting shit.

Hiller was the socialist and btw where was Sweden helping you finns? oh
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>>71411786
>"I'm a voluntaryist"
I am not even gonna look that shit up...
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>>71411786
>cont...
The future of this world, is a one-world government. Both the Capitalists and the Socialists want it.

Who would even deny that?

You people here have already lost. Thinking there will be a race-war is naive. The nations of Europe are completely dependent on international trade. Their economies would collapse if they even thought about it.

You're fucked. The last person who could save "The White Race"(if there is such a thing), was Hitler.

If you think otherwise, you're a fucking moron.
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>>71411467
Bullshit.

Hitler wanted vengeance from France because of the same ol' Alsace-Lorraine shit. But let's imply that Hitler acted defensively to protect itself from France, Poland, GBR and the USSR.

They still declared war, invaded and occupied: Luxembourg, Belgium, Netherlands, Denmark, Norway, Yugoslavia and Greece. Are you telling me that these countries were a threat to Germany?

Also, the USSR became a power post WW2 precisely because its economy was boosted thanks to WW2 itself. Boost that didn't last very long. The USSR would have collapsed on itself like every other communist bullshit-state that came before it.
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>>71411951
Show proof of this genocide, again sure does sound like a like that Hitler, was it called the Danzig holohoax?

also like to remind you, polish people are white people, so who was he defending, the white race or was the austrian cuck boy defending germans?
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>>71412044
There is always Putin. Deus Vult
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>>71412044
>you are fucked white boy
thanks for making it clear I was arguing a nigger.
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>>71410188
Yeah, Ireland has managed to sidestep all that quite nicely.
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>>71412108
*like a kike
fucking MS spelling dictators
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>>71411953
Hitler helped us against the Soviets, you disgusting commie cuck.
Nazis were the only god damn allies we Finns had, because the rest of the world utterly abandoned us when your hero Stalin decided to try to invade us, and then proceed to purge us, and replace our population with Ruskies and other peoples from soviet union, like they did with all the other countries they took over.
Why do you think that Estonia has so many god damn russians there?

Stalin was a paranoid maniac who only served his own interests. You are beyond deluded if you think that he was some hero of the white race.
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>>71403317

The Eternal Anglo.
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>>71412105

The allies invaded and occupied Iceland were ready to invade Norway and even Sweden(neutral country).

The Lower countries were invaded because of the Britcuck expeditionary force. He invaded Greece because the Britcucks were threatening to invade and Mussolini was a retard.
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>>71412143
Yep, of course we have stormfags trying to make Putin out to be the bad one and claim russians are not white.

again, sick of it.
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>>71412281

Calm down you autistic subhuman Slavnigger stop trying to derail the thread
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>>71412221
He helped you to kill white people, that is it.

you were allies in fighting the white race, congratulations. You would be better of today with Putin the between Sweden and Russia members of the EU.

You are too brainwashed to see it.
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>>71411882
Your quote is half-true. It is true that the Poles were building a new port to the Northwest.
Because you are a Pole, I assume you have no fucking clue why nearly a million ethnic-Germans fled the Polish corridor. I'm sure its because the Polish government was treating them like Kings.

I am not denying that anti-Polish sentiment in Danzig didn't cause violence. In the same way the anti-German sentiment was doing the same elsewhere. Danzig wanted to be returned to Germany. While it was called a "free city", it was technically owned by Poland, and its infrastructure was being tied to the rest of Poland, and decisions about its infrastructure were being made by Poland.

The reason it was made a free city to begin with, was to give Poland access to a good port.

As for the railroad, I don't know enough. I always hear, and from reputable sources(Pat Buchanan), that there were still significant issues when it came to the rail. I think Germany wanted the rail to be owned specifically by Germany. Not merely shipping rights over Polish lines.
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>>71412275
Sweden was not real neutrals and supported Germany, were also Nationalist Socialist. You should read up on what happened and how Sweden betrayed us all just like Hitler did. They would never invade you and if they did then you would fight them, your logic is germans italians kill you for the greater good, Stockholm syndrome much besides you were not even white to them.
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>>71412349
>slavnigger
here we go again, this is the legacy of Hitler, SLAVS ARE WHITE PEOPLE now pay your debts greek faggot.
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>>71412350
Nigger, we were fighting for our own god damn survival. Had Soviets succeeded in conquering us, Finns as a distinct people, probably wouldn't even exist anymore. If the "white race" wants to destroy my people, I'll gladly kill any of them who try. I have no allegiance to your retarded concept of some universal white race. I have allegiance only to my people, my kinfolk, whose roots are deep in the same soil as mine are. Finland is the land of Finns, and nobody else's.

Your white race bs is just another form of insidious globalism, that is the enemy of all sovereign peoples. Go fuck yourself, you disgusting piece of shit.
Why don't you move to russia if you idolize those degenerates so fucking much?
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>>71412275
>Hitler wanted vengeance from France
I'm impressed Greece.
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>>71411951
>germans were being genocided in danzig
Irrelevant.

A state genodiciding nationals is not casus belli for war under international law. It is a domestic affair of concern only to Poland.
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>>71412275
That's all bullshit and you know it. You're ignoring all his talk about Lebensraum and Aryanism and all that other shit. The truth is he was a warmonger. He didn't mind letting the USSR annex the Baltic States, half of Poland and a province of Romania; but when Great Britain is allied with Norway OH NO WE MUST PROTECT OURSELVES FROM BRITKEKS IN ICELAND.
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>>71412281
>stormfags

not Norwegian

kill yourself jew
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>>71403317

In this picture is the answer to your question.
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>>71412601

Cuckshill was a kikeslave, nothing more nothing less.
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>>71412498
>Sweden was not real neutrals and supported Germany

That's wrong Sweden was neutral but the Britcucks/kikes were mad that they were selling Germany iron ore. So the Britcucks were planning to invade Sweden a neutral country to stop the shipping of materials to Germany.

>>71412554

Slavs are White but subhuman Stalinist slavniggers like you are not (pic related). Kill yourself you cringy psycho tard
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>>71412572
>finns as distinct race of people
you are white race, not a race on its own lol You are literally Swedish sami and hungarians, all white. You would have been proud members of Russia today had you joined them. Now you are first strike in ww3 because of Hitler, the manlet that keeps on giving by killing off the white race, legacy and European dominance.

>>71412601
exactly

>>71412608
Mer norsk enn du er forrædere
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>>71403317
The poles didnt want to return the clay they stole.

If someone steal you, what you're supposed to do?
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>>71412350
Fuck off with your "muh white pride" you shithead. Communists are scum of society no matter what race. Finland has never identified as "white country" but as FINNS. We are better than the white race. How come our children learn to read and write faster? Get better results in school? Overall only good qualities? I don't even want to be associated with white people because for example brits are fucking disgusting. Hitler never called us white, or Aryan, but honorary Aryan. I feel more connection with Japanese people than Western Europeans.
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>>71404541
What a stupid fucking comment. You make us ameribros look like drooling retards. Thanks american education system for yet another failure.
>being that stupid to not know Hitler built Germany to be a super power on par with the US and Russia.
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>>71412857
>finns as distinct race of people
Oh, so now we are white, instead of "mongols"?

Fuck off.
We are our ow people, with our own language, culture, and ways, that both the Swedes, and the Ruskies, tried to snuff out. We would have been nothing but russified vassals to Soviets had they succeeded. A minority, with no freedom, or future, doomed to wither away and die, like all the other Finnic minorities are doing right now, in Russia. One can just look beyond our border, to former Karelia, to see what would have been the fate of whole FInland, had soviests succeeded.

We ain't Scandis, nor are we Ruskies, we are Finns, and I, like my father, and his father, have sworn the oaths to defend this land and our people, from hostile invaders, and foreign subversive elements.

I have no loyalty for cucks like you.
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>>71412667
>how could you defame our great british hero!
hurr durr you anti british traitor
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>>71413085
Stalin was not a commie

>we not white but finns
should have told Hitler that, wrong but today you can identify as gender fluid helicopters so baka

>>71412993
was never theirs to begin with, Germany had stolen clay themselves from poles and Denmark and the dutch and french and...
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>>71413274
>staling was not a commie
How deluded can one be?
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>>71412601
>Lebensraum
Do you know why Hitler was so desperate for Lebensraum? Its for the same reason America rants all the time about "energy-independence", or "breaking our dependence on foreign oil". You know, so we don't have to continue financing the middle-eastern terrorists and shiet.

>Aryanism
Don't read too much into it. It was basically being used to justify a hatred of the Soviet Union. The argument was basically that, the Slavs must be subhumans, since they were a bunch of shitty peasants who got taken over by Jewish Bolsheviks.

Hitler also said that the Mediterraneans were basically a bunch of niggers, but he allied with Mussolini.
It was all politics.

>The truth is he was a warmonger.
Hitler did not actually want war. He wasn't ready for war.

http://buchanan.org/blog/did-hitler-want-war-2068?doing_wp_cron=1461067272.5433049201965332031250


And before you continue to be a fucking nigger, watch this five-part series.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NSI5LkRGOKg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2eoPCrjcz6Y

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yGlH-9kZAg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ef1BehqAOzg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MsuSU8DPwng
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>>71413274
>should have told Hitler that
>Military success quickly resulted in the Finnish occupation of Eastern Karelia. Because of their Finno-Ugric heritage, the Finns were initially classified by Nazi racial experts as a people unrelated to the other Nordic countries, in spite of a long history of political unity with Sweden. As a result, the Swedish-speaking minority of Finland was favoured at first over Finnish speakers for recruitment into the Finnish Volunteer Battalion of the Waffen-SS because they were categorically considered part of the "Nordic race".
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>>71413162
Germany was a super power. More lies from stormfags.

>>71413173
Your language from HUNGARY your people from HUNGARY and SWEDEN and Russians, WHITE people.

fuck your Hitler attempts at diving the white race and create civil war killing upwards 100mill of our race over time, fuck you, greatest race traitor in history.

>>71413254
people who talk a bunch of shit about Churchill obviously know nothing about the man.
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>>71412404
The pre great war Germany heavy colonized Greater Poland and East Pomerania. Using goverment pressure, special laws and goverment funds. Many of this germans you ried that run from Poland just returned to their homes when they lostland they were given by pre Grea war goverment. Or just decid to go back when they lose administratio jobs. The process wasn't much different from what Germans used against Poles when they have the chance.
Sure there were pressure from Polish goverment but it was the case of whole country. It had plenty o problems and being nice to minority who undermne your rule wasn't prority.
Poles influence in Danzing were extremly limited. On the other hand Danzng pushing back to Germany would backfire for city economicaly as all polish import/exports would go to the new port.
It was a case of Germany wating more and now.
Remeber Czechoslovakia and Sudetland?
It was the last request and Bohemia would stay free and safe after giving it to Germany.
Ofcourse it didnt hapen. Bohemia turned protectorate, Slovakia into puppet state and surprise Germany demand more.
Hitler could notbe trusted.
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>>71404751
The Rothschild's were coming for him regardless. Hitler kicked the money changers out including the main Rothschild agent who was devaluing everything the German's owned with the kikes swooping in and taking it all. All Hitler was trying to do was preserve Germany and turned the economy around to a merit based economy instead of a debt based one and they had to be destroyed.
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>>71412993

Dont know since im not a nigger like you.
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>>71413352
>cont..
Though I should add. Hitler didn't want war, but he did realize that war was likely inevitable. But the war he believed was inevitable, was with the Soviet Union. Not France, not Britain, and honestly, not even Poland. He had hoped to avoid war with Poland, but felt he had no other choice.
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>>71413352
>just talk did not mean anything he said just politics
>hitler dindu nuflin was a peace lover
>hitler our great hero of white race
>destroyed us all
HOW THE FUCK DO YOU COMPUTE THIS SHIT WITHOUT SHORT-CIRCUITING???

>>71413350
less than you dumb fuck, enjoy the EU, euro and war against russia own behalf of a nigger across the atlantic ocean and your main ally is FUCKING SWEDEN who betrayed you thrice and did not even lend you a hand during ww2 lol

THAT IS FUCKING DELUDED

>>71413377
>I wanna be mongolian
be proud!
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>>71413391
What is this new trend of calling eastern Europeans white when for long time they weren't considered white? Because white people(anglos, Germanic people and Scandis) let niggers overtake them and now you white supremacists need to feel pride of people who aren't even close to your heritage?

>>71413549
Mongolian or white, what matters is your Finnish soul which can only be found in Finno-Ugric people.
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>>71413391
Our language and people have common, very distant roots with Hungary , but so fucking what?

And no, our people are not Swedes, nor Ruskies, no matter how much you spout that. We are Finns, and both Swedes, and Ruskies, have been our ENEMIES for far longer than friends. Either in the form of oppressors and foreign masters, or as combatants in the battlefield.

I have no loyalty for some abstract "white race". I have loyalty only for Finns. Thus far, all of our enemies, and foes who have tried to exterminate, subvert, and conquer us have been also members of the "white race".
And should they try again, I'll gladly go to war against them like my grandfather did. We are finally a free people, and there is no way in hell I would let that freedom slip away from my people if there is anything I can do to stop it.

>>71413549
Sweden isn't our ally, you god damn retard. Our military has no allies. It works on the assumption that we will always be fighting alone, because we got no friends. Your precious "white race" wouldn't lift a finger in our defense if Ruskies tried to invade us again.
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>>71413431
>"muh Rothschilds were coming"
Master race?
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>>71413523
>hitler did not want war
yes he did, this is fact, your meme is fucking retarded no point arguing.
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>>71413391
Germany was not a super power after WWI they were severely beaten down and citizens had to have a wheelbarrow full of marks just to buy a fucking loaf of bread. Meanwhile the Jews were taking advantage of it and throwing German's out of their homes. This bred the anti Semitism that Hitler rode all the way to the top. The Weimar republic was not regarded as any kind of power in the world stage before the rise of Hitler.
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>>71403601
why you killed ethnic germans in northern schleswig?
explain yourself dane

it's your fault
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>>71413352
You may want to twist, misinterpret and revision all that you want, but you are just going to keep contradicting yourself.

>Lebensraum was justified for acquiring resources
>Slavs are subhumans
>But we don't want no war
>Poor, weak Hitler was forced to declare war on mean and belligerent Belgium and Denmark

If you truly care about the white race, you would condemn Hitler and what he started.
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>>71413603
The trend? eastern europeans ARE WHITE

You are race traitors creating division among Europe and the white western race culture and you are the enemy, Hitler was a fucking manlet less white than any russian you will come across.
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>>71413404
>The process wasn't much different from what Germans used against Poles when they have the chance.
Here is what I'll say. Poland was definitely getting cucked by Germany for more than a century, prior to WWI.

I can completely understand why Poland not only didn't trust Germany, but why they didn't even like Germany. And why the Poles basically wanted to kick all the ethnic Germans out.


This isn't a question about how Poland felt. This is a matter of what was in Poland's long-term interests.

Basically, did Poland actually make the right decision by allying with Britain and telling Hitler to fuck off?

My argument is that the answer is No. Poland was immensely worse-off by trying to play tough-guy against Hitler. And not only did Poland suffer, but they dragged the rest of us down as well.
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>>71413636
>not swedes
you country has and had a tons of swedes in fact the area was invaded over time by hungarians, you, that ancestral land belongs to sweden more than you which is why it was sweden since dawn of time and why still yet to this very day swedish is an official language.

despite all that you are white and your longwinded anti slav finns le race arguments you will always be white.
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>>71413677
I guess since history isn't valid unless it's written by some kike publishing company. Ya the world banks had no power at all in those days. Stay naive faggot.
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>>71413720
You do not know your history, they were their economy was stable and growing again and everything was getting better as they were once again a super power which is HOW the nazi's were able to build up their armed forces to the point they could start WW2.
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>>71413716
Look, no one wants war. There is a speech by Ronald Reagan, and he says "There is one way you can have peace, and you can have it in the next second. Surrender."

War is merely a necessarily evil, to accomplish geopolitical goals, when they cannot be had by any other means.


So no, Hitler didn't want war. And after the war started, he became a paranoid drug-addict, who basically never left his bunker.
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>>71413819
Go suck on Chamberlain's cock you massive faggot. You are blaming Poland for being the victim trying to stand up against a country that had previously shadily annexed Austria and Czech-Republic, and saying that "IF THEY HAD JUST PUT UP WITH GERMAN BULLYING IT WOULD JUST STOP"

The truth is that Germany was planning to go to war sooner or later. And whatever Poland had chosen to do in 1939 would have changed nothing.
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>>71413901
No shit there are Swedes here when Finland was(and still is) Sweden's colony. There are still white people in Africa too. So are Africans white?
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>>71413819
No, Hitler dragged the rest of us down killing white people over supposed national interests as an Austrian national who spend his last days making sure all german white people died, had their country blown up and raped.
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his ambition was to crush communism
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>>71413963
The Nazis were able to build up their power when they went to a merit based currency. The economy turned around in less than a year. The Weimar republic was a disaster and very weak. Also all the restrictions from the treaty of Versailles barred Germany from having fuck all for a military.
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>>71413811
Fuck off.
Your "white people" considered Finns to be asiatic subhumans for hundreds of year. Our culture has barely anything in common with that of Southern Europeans. The closest kinship to other European peoples Finns have are with Estonians, due to the fact that we are sibling peoples.

Scandis, Slavs, etc other european groups, are not our kin and have been our enemies historically far more often, than our friends.

>>71413901
Who has taught you that nonsense? The Swedes that lived here, were a small minority, who were basically aristocrats who moved here to rule us. And most of them fled when Ruskies took us over. Finland has been predominantly inhabited by Finns for at least a thousand years.

>invaded by hungarians.
Jesus fuck what are you smoking, you dumb nigger?
Hungarians, like the Finns, descend from Finno ugric peoples. Hungarians aren't our fucking ancestors you daft cunt.

And even if we are white, we are still our distinct people, and we have zero reason to feel any loyalty to other groups of white people, seeing how those other white people have tried to subjugate and exterminate us many times in the past.

Fuck off. I'd gladly kill any Ruskie, Swede (lol), Dane, Norvegian, Brit, German, or any other "white" person, should he seek to endanger the future of my people. Again, my only loyalty is for Finns, and Finland, not some global white race.
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>>71413961
>stay naive faggot Hitler was white race hero
Hitler was a fucking retarded hreoin addicted manlet austrain nutcase who killed white people for his own ego and in the end accomplished nothing except get white people killed.

I am not naive and I read everything, you are the naive dumbass fallen for the nazi stormfag meme, let us see what do nazis do today? hmm they help muslims in Europe and chase rotschilds around while creating division happy to kill their own, fight against putin for ukraine and calls all slavs subhumans and southern europeans niggers and piss on christianity.

that is called race traitors.
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>>71414008
>compares Ronald Reagan to Hitler
At least you mention the fact hitler was a coward and dumbass.
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>>71414108
>he just wanted to defeat communism
then he went about it in the dumbest way possible.
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>>71413770
Hitler needed Lebensraum, in the same way that all the European powers colonized pretty much the entire world between 1492 and 1939.

While everyone rants about Hitler's evil Lebensraum. They seem to forget that Britain was a fucking Empire, on which the sun never set.

France was an empire, the Soviet Union was an empire. And do you know why they were empires? Because they wanted to control more territory, and more resources, to feed their industrial growth, and thus, increase their power.

Germany was just doing what everyone else was already doing. Where are these "good guys"?

Was it America? Who genocided the Native-Americans and stole all their land? That is the only reason America even existed, let-alone had all its resources, which it exported to Britain and the Soviet Union as part of the "Lend-Lease Act"(and before that).


In any case, Hitler just bitched about the Slavs, because they let a bunch of Jewish Bolsheviks overthrow their government. A government which terrified Hitler, and which Hitler felt the need to rally his forces behind.

As for Belgium and Denmark. He had to invade France through Belgium(just as in WWI), the French had the Maginot line.
And Denmark, he wasn't colonizing them or anything. He just occupied it, to prevent Britain from taking it and disrupting Swedish shipments of Iron.
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>>71403317

because all that sweet sweet Aryan trim needed a good wholesale shagging and the ladies wanted some strange
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>>71414179
>your white people
We are all white people and thew ones who did that was Sweden (they invented the entire racial biology and science which Hitler leaned on) and they WERE FUCKING WRONG

fuck Sweden fuck Germany and fuck all stormfags. Russia attacked you back then you know why? because Sweden wanted to invade US norway and traded Finland as territory to Russians for support internationally of the invasion.

THAT IS SWEDENS FAULT

Finns have not been there for thousand years no. Absolute lunacy.
>I wanna kill white people
then I hope you die race traitor and join Hitler in hell. Maybe you can share needles down there.
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>>71414212
It wasn't even about the white race you dumb fuck. All Hitler was about was Germany and kicking the parasites out. Hitler didn't care if he had shitskins helping the cause because it was all apart of his vision for a greater Germany. He didn't have the blessings of the Rothschild's machine, as well as the communist revolution that was sweeping europe at the time so he had to be stopped.
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>>71414510
So Hitler wanted to save white race by destroying white empires who were not even communists if that was his beef while fucking the church up and helping Islam out and Japanese chinks attack white people.

your logic FUCKING FAILS
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>>71403317

France and Britain declared war on Germany, not the other way around. Both countries wanted Germany to remain insignificant, and weak, so as to protect their hegemony in Europe. After WW1 concluded France started buddying up with Poland, to keep Russia and Germany from expanding.

Germany wanted control of Danzig (not the whole Polish corridor) a city that is mostly German, and they also wanted to build a railroad to it. The Polish Government refused, and then Germany prepared a false flag, for pretense to invade Poland.

Hitler was just restoring the old German empire, and actually admired the English. Unfortunately the two could not coexist peacefully, as a strong Germany would inevitably challenge British control of the seas.

An interesting thing to note is that Adolf Hitler, Winston Churchill, Joseph Stalin, and Franklin Delano Roosevelt all had connections to the Rothschilds; Hitler was even related to them!
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>>71414517
>white women in that pic all dead and raped
thanks hitler /s
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>>71404276

That picture is adorable.
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>>71414585
>Hitler was never about the white race it was about Germany
A very modern country not historically important or even existing before modern times and he himself WAS AN AUSTRIAN NATIONAl

and this is your argument for Hitler being a good fuck? lol you guys are just as fucking retarded deluded and brainwashed idiots as the modern left cutting of their genitals.
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>>71413819
Hitler or Germany ould not be trusted.
They broke their promises one after one.
Poland hae three choices:
1.Ally with the west like they did. It was to preserve status quo.Also Frnce was seen as 1st Military power on coninent. Should be enough to make Hitlr think twice or at last to give us some time to modernize. Even in case of war the Poland expectd to suffer mst German blows when France kick Gerany from behind. It didn't work wellbut it work in the end. Thanks to Stalin mostly but hey. Poles cat be choosers.
2. Ally with Soviet Union. That was in many ways impossble.
3. Ally with the Germany and oathbreaker.
The slowly lose all the western polish land and become puppet state. Sooner or later.Poles wuld be used as cannon fodder against Russians and the suffer their wrath. The Germans would eat Poand sloly if they win as they always try to do.

In the end what happened was the best choice for independent Poland.
Burned Germany and wounded Sovie Union.
Tanks to Stalin we have mono ethnic and mono cutural country. No western guilt.
>we are poor but safe for a moment
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>>71409444
Well said. Too many countries have been filling with cucks and spastics the past decade+
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>>71414649
>France Britain wanted to keep Europe white
Basically and people celebrate Hitler wanting to destroy western civilization while he hangs out with his buddies the arabs and managed to kill millions of white people and lead to the destruction of English and French empires,
>t-thanks?
ugh
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because europe was readying to fight the Germ-Mans so the space-flew-virus used hitler to stop us

<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

derp
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>>71414869

The war was unnecessary, but inevitable at the same time. It would be disingenuous to insult any one side, as all were guilty. The Soviet Union, however, was the worst.
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>>71414799
>Poland 100% white
And you are the winner!

Do not let the faggots ever claim anything but.
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hitler was a gud boi, he just caused death of millions of whites and ensured western europe will be cucked forever due to guilt and finally turn into a shitskin caliphate

bravo
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this is actual history >>71414932

do i really have to keep repeating myself and still nobody on pol reads and nobody shares a meme?

FRANK NWO BLOODLINE JPG

spacegerms = cryptids
ufos = virus
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>>71415019
>>71415019
>>71415019
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>>71414524
You know nothing of our history. Finns have absolutely lived here at least for a thousand years, you deluded cuck.
And I will gladly kill anyone who threatens the soveriginity, and future of my people, regardless of the skincolor of the aggressors.

Again, I got no loyalty for you, just because your skincolor is the same as mine. You are not my kin, not part of my people, and you will never be, because you will never be a Finn.
If anything, what you have written here, clearly shows that you are my enemy, who would have gladly seen my people be destroyed by Ruskies.
Russia has attacked my people more than once, many times during the time when we were still under the Swedish rule, until they took us over. And then they proceeded to try to wipe out our language and culture.
And after that, they attacked us again during the ww2.

They are our enemies, and the color of their skin doesn't change that one bit, you deluded cuck.

How simple is your mindset, when you think that white people should unite just due to our skin color, when there are far more aspects of our peoples and cultures, that separate us? I will never see a non Finn as one of my kin and I would not risk my life for the cause that was not that of my people's.
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>>71414649
>Unfortunately the two could not coexist peacefully, as a strong Germany would inevitably challenge British control of the seas.
Yeah...nah. Bismarck said that the other great powers had nice colonies in Africa, but his Africa begun at France and ended at Russia. Had the Germans left well enough alone, they could've existed with the British (and the other powers of Europe) in piece. However, Wilhelm II went full retard so hard, not even being directly related to both the English queen and the Russian czar was enough to save him.
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>>71403705
/thread
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>>71414838
Yeah I am having a rant here but I had enough of this fucking bullshit already

We white people were great far greater than what stormfags want and advocate which is to destroy the white race and western culture. Fuck socialism, fuck aryian bullshit, anyone claiming russians are not white are liars and fuck this changing of history shitting on us pollacks and danes among many who died to that fucking manlet who all he ever accomplished was killing white people and sure as hell FUCK ISLAM and all other religions, we are Christian nations.

wanna be fag atheist whatever be that in silence and stfu or try and ruin our civilization.
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Eternal Teuton ruins everything
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>>71415070
so fuck off I have little patience for race traitors and you are one just like Hitler your ally was.
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>>71415019
>cryptids
did u see the map of the swamp the USA capital is built on

actual history; only germany wrote it down; but the fuckign barbarians kept attacking and burning the books
>WHOLE WORLD SO FUCKING STUPID
>BEO WULF / BIOLOGICAL WOLF
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>>71415168
>thread
no, he had to go because he did not take over the world and make us all muslims so he chose to kill himself taking the easy way out (or for the conspiratards he fled the scene and hid in Argentina laughing his ass off as us white people died and got raped and cucked.)
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>>71414645
Hitler didn't want to destroy white empires. And the Soviet Union was not a "white empire. It was an international empire. It stretched from the Pacific to the Baltics, and down through Central Asia and the Caucus mountains.

For that matter, the British and French empires, and American Empire, were not an exclusively white empire either. And whether Hitler existed or not, they would have never remained white.

The ONLY faction who was trying to create an actual white Empire, was Hitler.

Lets pretend there was some hypothetical world where the Soviets had taken the entire European continent. They wouldn't have stopped there. They weren't making a European Union. They wanted to take the Middle-East, and Asia as well. The Soviets collapsed for instance, in Afghanistan.

Stalin moved around millions of people across the empire. Bringing millions of Russians into places like Ukraine, Estonia, and Georgia.

Had the Soviets expanded into some Arab lands, they would have just as much been absorbed into his empire.


Hitler was the last white hope. And its honestly a waste of time to argue about it.
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>>71411364
This is why they got beaten so badly, France told Poland 'don't mobilize, we've got your back' yet when the invasion came France did essentially nothing and Polish troops were literally caught on trains.
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>>71415282
How can I be a traitor to the "white race", when I never swore any loyalty for it in the first place, and when my people haven't even been considered to be part of it for even a hundred years?
I only have loyalty for MY people, to whom YOU do not belong. You are not, and never will be, a Finn, thus I have absolutely zero reason to give two shits about you.

In fact, why should I have loyalty for this "white race" outside of my loyalty for Finns? The only white people who have ever actually helped us in our history, were the Nazis. Not you, not Great Britain, not Poland, not Danes, and certainly not the Swedes or the Ruskies.
The Germans are the only group of White people who have ever actually aided us in our times of need, when other white people, the Ruskies, tried to conquer us (and then proceed to colonize us, like they did with the baltics.)

So tell me, you retarded norvegian cuck, why should I feel any loyalty for this "white race", outside of the boundaries of Finnish people?
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>>71415449
>hitler last white hope
complete fucking lie established by objective observable facts unlike your assassin speculation about a man fighting chinks while not planning to attack and exterminate whites.
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>>71414781
Ya that's why his first conquests and why he started in Poland was to get all German lands back under his control. I think you missed the nationalist part of the Nazi movement.
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>>71415551
go to reddit or something and shit that place up instead
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>>71415449
>For that matter, the British and French empires, and American Empire, were not an exclusively white empire either.
Nigger please.

The French and British had very clear policies (though the French were more involved with their mission civilicatrice): they were in Africa to bring Europe to Africa, not to bring Africa to Europe. A rare few went to Paris and London to study (mostly the sons of kings and chiefs), and then went right back to often become part of the colonial administration.

America until the 1960s had a very clear immigration policy with the intention of keeping the grand majority of immigration white.

They WERE white countries with very clear intentions of staying white, until Hitler's full retard bullshit ensured that everyone who opposed multicultu was branded a Nazi.

Hitler equivocated patriotism and the desire for homogeny, as well as any discussion about the relationship between intelligence and race/gender, with literally being the devil.
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>>71403317
Thays where Hitler fucked up. He should have led by example and not gone to war. There were fascist governments poppingup all over the place and he starts a two front war against two of the most capable nations at the time.
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>>71414781
Also I never said he was good or bad just trying to not be like all the brainwashed liberal faggots that associate everything evil with Hitler. To discredit his rise to power and what he built and to just say he was a heroin addict makes you look butthurt and uninformed.
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>>71415124

Bismarck created an unsustainable long term foreign policy due to his extreme pragmatism. As dumb as Wilhelm was he wasn't sole factor for the clusterfuck.
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>>71415611
>german lands back that were stolen in the first place
motivation being he was a nationalist with zero qualms about killing white people in reality.

and such a strong nationalist he was, he was not german even and he even attacked his actual homeland and when shit got rough he made sure his german nationals died and also raped.

>my hero
fuck off
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>>71415644
Ooh, did the poor cucked norgie run out or arguments?
I repeat my question, why should I feel loyalty for some ambigious, global "white race" that includes all European people, when most European peoples have either been straight up enemies of my people, or completely indifferent to the hardship and suffering my people had to endure under our foreign masters?

Your ilk has never helped us. Why should we help you? The only aid Finns are gonna get comes from other Finns. You'd probably fucking cheer on Ruskies if they tried to go full Crimea on us, and the rest of the world probably wouldn't even care.
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>>71415732
exactly

I am so sick of this claim he was fighting for the white race and supposedly all other white nations were nigger lovers which is 100% bs and easy to verify.
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>>71415124

It is true that Wilhelm II had Napoleonic Ambitions, but what you are purposing is that Germany accept perpetual inferiority to a neighbor. World War 1 was started when the Austro-Hungarian Empire invaded Serbia. This triggered World War 1; not even Wilhelm II's ambitions caused to war. I believe every party was acting purely out of self-interest, and was not interested in a compromise; this is a fault on all sides, not just the Triple Alliance.

Something important to note, is that Germany had won a war against France in 1871. France had even started this war out of desire to steal from Germany, this isn't some neo-nazi spiel, this is a fact; feel free to research and learn that most historians agree it was caused by Imperialism. Put yourself in Germany's shoes. Britain refuses to let you match her navy; France still has it out for you, because of Alsace-Lorraine, Russia is feeling up for a war. And best of all your "enemies" just declared war on your ally, and you also have a secret plan that barring American influence could win the war. Would you go to war?
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>>71415605
Look, Norway is NEVER going to be all-white ever again. Period.

Norway depends too much on international trade, and is a tiny ass country. Norway could get pushed around so easily by international pressure, much like what happened to South Africa as a result of apartheid.

If you appeared to be enacting any sort of racist/nationalist policy, you would be sanctioned/boycotted so fast you wouldn't know what hit you.

The only way you could "resist international pressure", is if you were completely resource self-sufficient, and powerful enough to defend yourself from all external forces. But even if Europe could be completely self-sufficient(and it can't), it would be far poorer if it suddenly lost its control of international trade, and international markets. And all of Europe combined is NOTHING compared to the combined territory and resources of the rest of the world.


You're fucked, and you don't understand why.
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>>71415763
>must be liberal to hate hitler
rubbish, again if anything socialists and libs changed the definitions there is very little difference with todays left and the nazis, the left also should own the KKK

you are instead playing into their hands by claiming Hitler was anything but a retarded fucking race traitor who should be remembered as the shit he was.
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Attack on USSR was a success.Hitler's mistake was that he didn't understand how serious war is when it just started, so he let british army flee, expecting the conflict to end much sooner than it turned out.Also, everything with Rommel was a mess, such man should have been used in more important front.Italian allies are the reason Hitler lost, all this North Africa shit was the point where war was lost.
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>>71415779
All I detect from you are butthurt tears none of this shit makes any sense. Hitler isn't my hero he made dumb fucking decisions and ruined an opportunity to make Germany great again. I don't get how I can't acknowledge that Hitler made a nice run and built up a pretty strong power for awhile before it ran out of resources and got pissed away.
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>>71403456
That's not true, the mistake was japan attacking pearl harbor. They could win Russia if not by USA help.
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>>71415769
>Bismarck created an unsustainable long term foreign policy due to his extreme pragmatism.
Nope, it was unsustainable because of Von Moltke's insistence on annexing Alsace-Lorraine. He actually wanted to avoid the situation which would make France an eternal enemy. Because France was already made an eternal enemy by the annexation of Alsace, Bismarck was forced to create an unsustainable web of alliances to ward of France.

Tragic, that Germany fell so far over a small sliver of land that hadn't been German since Louis XIV.
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>>71415892
>inferiority to a neighbor
so stormfags in the end are just german nationalists despite everything, fuck white race, fuck western culture Europe and Christianity and our history and peoples because bottom line all that matters is much Ze German homeland.

I cannot accept this and anyone not born german should either, I guess Merkele is your last "white hope" now ffs
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All Germany resources were going to another countries that won ww1, and when hitler stopped that he was breaking the treaty of peace of ww1, another war had to start, the other european countries would not accept that.
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>>71416014
>Norway will never be 100% white
we are white but
>so what you need to do is become a German nationalist
what

what the fuck are you saying? Hitler was good and Germany all that matters? perhaps join Islam and help create a muslim germany??

what is your point.
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>>71416185
Merkel is cancer that needs lopped off.
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>>71415892
>but what you are purposing is that Germany accept perpetual inferiority to a neighbor
Welcome to the world of politics: sometimes you have to give, sometimes you have to take. This applies to every global power. Bismarck preferred prioritizing development in Europe and forgoing a navy and colonies.

Wilhelm II, on the other hand, waged only one foreign policy: 'GERMANY STRONK'. Why do the Brits call the Germans Huns? Because this is what Wilhelm II himself did during the Boxer rebellion, describing his army of STRONK GERMANS as the Huns on their way to #rek China.

Wilhelm wanted it all and he got nothing. Because he could not prioritize and could not compromise, which Bismarck could.

>>71416185
The irony about this is that not maintaining the policies of Von Moltke, Wilhelm and Hitler would actually be better for Germany. If Bismarck had his way, even today Germany would stretch from France to Russia and indisputably be the most powerful nation in Europe. And that without the pathological urge to bring in immigrants.
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>>71416096
>italy is to blame
except it was not their fault and the attack on USSR was a failure and attacking Putin today is a failure fuck Ukraine might I add. Taking over the Suez and mediterranian was necessary, maybe he should have done that instead of attacking the Russians and claim they are not white killing millions of the white race, eh!
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>>71415732
>America until the 1960s had a very clear immigration policy with the intention of keeping the grand majority of immigration white.
Do you have any clue why we changed the policy? Do you have any clue why everyone changed their policy?

And please don't say "Because Hitler fucked it up for everyone".

Obviously America's immigration policy didn't happen until almost two decades after WWII. Hitler had nothing to do with it.

It was purely economic. The capitalists wanted cheap labor, and to further "internationalize" the market.


As I said before, the future of this world is a "global government", which will be necessary to regulate our "global economy". It won't happen today, but we are already heading in that direct, big-time. With the EU, NAFTA, TPP, World Trade Organization, among other things.

To have globalism, you have to destroy national borders. And that is exactly what is happening with the European Union. The people there aren't merely ranting about how they are "citizens of Europe. They also talk about be "citizens of the world".

That is the goal, citizens of the world. And almost everyone in Norway speaks English. What do you honestly think is going to happen? Be realistic.
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>>71416143
>Hitler made a nice run
No, he made a terrible "run"
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>>71416185
Fuck off with your disgusting globalism. The whole concept of some global, over arching "white race" or "European culture" is utter fucking bs. There are European cultureS that and European peopleS that are all distinct from one another, and each should have the freedom to pursue their own best interests, not some global interests of the "white race".

Russian interests for example, have clearly gone against the interests of other European nations. According to you, should they have just capitulated under the Ruskies, because fighting for their own freedom and soveriginity would have been fighting against "the white race?"

There is Europe, and it is inhabited by dozens of different peoples, who have never been truly united. That is why EU was doomed to fail from the start. You can't force distinct peoples and cultures to unify under a fake banner, be it the EU, or some ambiguous "white race".
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>>71416407
USSR would invade Germany anyway, Stalin played his own game all this time, the one and only way to prevent this was a blitzkrieg and it worked.And yes, Italians are to blame, just read about their martial failures in Africa.Only Rommel was able to prevent complete loss with his tricks.
>fuck Ukraine
>Putin
What the fuck does it have to do with my point?
>!
easy way to spot a retard, discussion closed.
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>>71416418
Maybe with the 100 million dead remain alive there would be no shortage of cheap white labor.
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>>71416490
Ya conquering Europe and damn near Russia was a horrible run. All you have is this fuck Hitler meme going which makes your points a bit invalid when you can't recognize basic facts.
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>>71416546
>yada yada yada
Russia is against a none Christian fag loving muslim importing western Europe, that is good and right.
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>>71416274
>Hitler was good and Germany all that matters?
The world isn't a utopia. The world is what it is.

In most cases, you don't get to have whatever it is that you want. You get to choose between the lesser of two evils.

I'm just saying, if the goal is to have a white nation, the opportunity was with Hitler. It will NEVER happen again. So it is pointless to even discuss it.

The world is going in exactly the opposite direction, and no one is going to stop it. It is only going to get worse. And its pace is quickening.


And you know it.
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>>71416732
Do I need to even ad anything here?
You are clearly too retarded to even have a proper argument.
Go hump your Stalin bodypillow, you crypto commie.
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>>71416564
>he would have
>trust me
except we know with History saw it for ourselves that he was not and did not plan to invade Germany.

This again objective historic facts and when Hitler invaded he did so saying they were killing subhumans not white people, when Russians and you are white and the only end game if he had won would be to kill all Russians as he declared them as not white and deserving to die, so by supporting Hitler you support exterminating slavs, fuck you race traitor. More blue eyes there than it was in germany.
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>>71416418
>It was purely economic. The capitalists wanted cheap labor, and to further "internationalize" the market.
Sure, I'm willing to concede that. However, let's not pretend that the counterarguments to that being discredited don't matter.

>Muh globalism
You know that cosmopolitanism is inherrently a socialist construct, right? World trade already existed prior to the world wars, and the reason why many people believed WW2 would not happen is the same reason why people today believe the EU won't collapse: too much interconnectivity through trade. Except prior to WW2 it was the same bullshit without "muh globalist post-national society" preachery straight out of the leftist church.
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>>71416674
recognize what? that he nearly destroyed white civilization single handily while allied with turks arabs and chinks and niggers?

fuck off.
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>>71416862
>German nationalist race traitor
be honest good come out and say it, you are a fucking race traitor cuck muslim loving piece of shit.
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>>71416866
>crypto commie
I hope your death will be swift when Putin saves Europe.
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>>71416938
>>71417003
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>>71416905
good post
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>>71417066
>posts meme
>wrong meme
>brazil
did your great great grandad kill white people in Europe or something?
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>>71416938
>>71417003

The norgiecuck has clearly ran out or arguments.

>>71417048
>putin
>saving anything.

That ex KGB manlet is just a self serving dictator, who is robbing Russia of it's wealth, and lining his and his friend's pockets with it.

And he can try to attack us. Finland is not Crimea. We will fight back, instead of welcoming those degenerate savages with open arms. A little war would do good for our people. It would get us rid of all the filthy, freeloading shitskins, as well as traitorous leftist cucks.
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>>71416879
Stop calling me names, faggot, I didn't say I am Hitler supporter, I just pointed good and bad decisions, that, in my opinion, he made.The version of USSR planning an attack on Germany in 1941 is pretty common.I just see no reason for you to deny that German-USSR tensions existed and Stalin as personality, I doubt, would have hesitated to attack Germany.The anti-russian propaganda is pretty obvious and understandable, you need USSR to collapse to win over it as you cant drain it's manpower completely, that's why you need to make anti-russian propaganda.Everyone in this war and in the whole fucking history played as dirty as possible, I dont get why you are mad over it, it feels like you are 17 years old blue pilled kid with 0 cynical view on the world.You use retarded logic like ''if you support x you are x'' instead of making complete reasonable logical statements, its a thing liberals usually do.By the way, the thing with killing subhumans and not people is a propaganda tool used through whole fucking history.Germans call russians swines, ukrainians call DNR fighters bugs that need to be smashed, russians call ukrainians pigs etc.Its all so common and you bring up Germany like such a unique case.Your tunnel vision of history disgusts me, I'd pee on your history teacher's face.
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>>71416905
It is far more interconnected now than it was in 1939. Plus, the dependency then was mostly between European powers. Now the dependency sprawls across the entire world. Plus the crazy dependency on Middle-East oil, and Asian manufacturing.

On top of that, the nations themselves are so overloaded with outsiders. To make America white again, would require the forced expulsion or genocide of more than 100 million people. That is simply impossible.

And likewise in the case of Britain, which is being overrun.

I just see no practical means of turning back the clock.
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>>71417480
> To make America white again, would require the forced expulsion or genocide of more than 100 million people. That is simply impossible.

That is not impossible. It is just that the will to go about it, is not there.
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>>71417291
I have not run out of arguments, you do not win an argument by deflecting and bringing up new shit without countering the first

you argue exactly like a SJW would, fuck off.

and good luck fighting for cuckolding gay fucking and transgenderism for more Muslims and a destroyed Europe on behalf of a nigger in the white house.

>>71417387
>LISTEN DO NOT CALL ME NAMES I SPECULATE MY ASS OF AND I THINK MAYBE THERE WAS TENSIONS AND STALIN WAS GONNA..
but thankfully thanks to history and facts we do not need to speculate we know he wasn't and he was betrayed by Hitler, end of.

Stop thinking your stupid speculation holds more value in an argument when
As early as 1925, Adolf Hitler vaguely declared in his political manifesto and autobiography Mein Kampf that he would invade the Soviet Union, asserting that the German people needed to secure Lebensraum ("living space") to ensure the survival of Germany for generations to come.[19] On 10 February 1939, Hitler told his army commanders that the next war would be "purely a war of Weltanschauungen... totally a people's war, a racial war." On 23 November, once World War II had already started, Hitler declared that "racial war has broken out and this war shall determine who shall govern Europe, and with it, the world."[20] Nazism viewed the Soviet Union (and all of Eastern Europe) as populated by non-Aryan Untermenschen ("sub-humans"), ruled by "Jewish Bolshevik conspirators".[19] Mein Kampf said Germany's destiny was to "turn to the East" as it did "six hundred years ago".[21] Accordingly, it was stated Nazi policy to kill, deport, or enslave the majority of Russian and other Slavic populations and repopulate the land with Germanic peoples, under the Generalplan Ost.[19] The Germans' belief in their ethnic superiority is discernible in official German records and by pseudoscientific articles in German periodicals at the time, which covered topics such as "how to deal with alien populations".[22]

Slavs ARE WHITE.
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>>71418149
After the war began, the Nazis issued a ban on sexual relations between Germans and foreign slave workers.[31] There were regulations enacted against the Ost-Arbeiter ("Eastern Workers") that included the death penalty for sexual relations with a German person.[32] Heinrich Himmler, in his secret memorandum, Reflections on the Treatment of Peoples of Alien Races in the East, (dated 25 May 1940) outlined the future plans for the non-German populations in the East.[33] Himmler believed the Germanization process in Eastern Europe would be complete when "in the East dwell only men with truly German, Germanic blood".[34]

German Nationalists

Not white race, Hitler was a sick fuck degenerate race traitor.
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>>71418149
You have been shat on your statements by american guy, now you just ignore his post and make the same mistake and talk shit about ''slavs are white'' like it has something to do with topic.I am done with you, go make your own research, start at least at wikipedia.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_offensive_plans_controversy
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>>71403317
Tomorrow is his birthday.
Will celebrate mutilating juden flag.
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