I know we like to joke about the Holocaust, but what is some REAL, HARD, FACTUAL EVIDENCE that it didn't happen?
I don't want to watch any 5 hour documentary about Hitler being misunderstood or a shitty 144p clip with spooky music over it.
Give me the facts and evidence.
I know we like to joke, but I want to become a brain surgeon. I don't want to do the 10,000 hours of deliberate practice, I don't want to study and take the boards.
I just want it all in a "little red pill." Now gibs me.
>>69330726
if the holohoax is real then why arent we being haunted by a bunch of jew ghosts?
growing up I met lots of people with tattoos on their arms. It was real. Not sure about all the details because I wasn’t there but there are certainly plenty of speeches and documents that prove what the Nazis wanted to do. And there are plenty of people who lost their whole families. It would take quite a big conspiracy to get all those people to lie about their tattoos and families. And what’s the motivation for lying? To get the world’s sympathy so you can have a shitty little strip of land in the middle east surrounded by hostile Arabs? People that deny the Holocaust do so because they choose to, it has nothing to do with the evidence.
I'm post and I find this Jewish disturbing.
>>69330726
I'm torn on the issue.
While the camps were obviously real, and millions of Jews died, the question boils down to whether or not they were purposely exterminated through gassing.
A lot of the confession from high ranking nazis in the camps were gotten through torture and threats against their families. This isn't propaganda, but is available through mainstream sources.
Read up on Rudolf Höss, the commandant of Auschwitz. The guy was tortured by British Jewish soldiers, then by polacks, and had his familiy threatened. He eventually caved and admitted to killing something like 3 million Jews.
Historians later revised this number down to one million, so either he was forced to give a false confession, or he was completely unaware of how many people died while he was in charge.
There's also the issue of the crazy stories that came out of these camps, like Holocaust survivors claiming that camp commanders would grab babies from their mothers when they came off the train and tear off their limbs. It's just so insanely exaggerated and cartoonishly evil, and German officials would never accept people like this as it would absolutely destroy morale among the guards.
One of the biggest killers in the camps was typhus, which incidentally was treated by delousing clothes with the pesticide known as Zyklon-B. So whether it was used to gassing or strictly for delousing, who knows.
Overall, it's hard to tell fact from fiction, because some of Holocaust stories are blatant lies. However, that in itself doesn't prove that the gassing never happened. We'll never know, because too much time has passed and the vast majority of witnesses are dead.
It also doesn't help that Holocaust deniers are politically motivated, and are every bit as unreliable as their counterparts.
>give me facts and evidence
All they need is muh 6 gorillion
>>69332454
Best response you could have asked for, OP. Hard to find opinions like these on /pol/ nowadays.
>>69330726
Why are there so many of these threads today?
There were only 4,000,000 Jews in Europe before WW2.
How do you have evidence that something g never happened? Give me evidence that beavers never destroyed the Canadian navy
>>69331115
I don't see how people having arm tattoos proves that they were systematically exterminated for being kikes. I don't think even the most skeptical of 'deniers' would claim camps didn't exist.
>>69330726
>Give me the facts and evidence.
bad news is most of the good stuff is actually 3-5 hour documentaries about it
good luck finding decent written criticisms
>>69330726
The holocaust was not the first time jews lost 6 million to a "genocide" and it wont be the last, they have pulled that shit for centuries.
>>69332641
>>69332862
What? Reddit is down or something?
>>69330726
I know we like to joke about the Reptilians, but what is some REAL, HARD, FACTUAL EVIDENCE that they don't exist?
>>69330726
They can't, because all /pol/ can rely on "IF DA HOLOCAUST WUZ REAL, THEN HOW COME X? I DON'T GET IT, SO IT MUST BE A HOAX. UNTIL EVERY SINGLE MICROSCOPIC DETAIL IS EXPLAINED TO ME AND YOU DISPROVE ALL OF THESE PHONY 4CHAN INFOGRAPHICS, THE HOLOCAUST WASN'T REAL. I'M JUST ASKING QUESTIONS HURRRR"
That about sums all of it up. Even when you answer their stupid questions, they'll just think of more dumb ones or ignore valid explanations because they aren't genuinely curious, they just want to cast doubt.
Probably happened but nowhere near the number they says. All that shit about Skin lamp shades and roller coasters into oven is obviously bullshit.
>>69330726
there wasnt even 1 million jews alive in europe post WW2.. its ridicilous zion counter propaganda..
we may speak about five hundred thousend jews who died directly/indirectly by the NS-regime
>>69330726
The only real point of contention is if the numbers were inflated or not, but then kiddies get ahold of it and think none of it happened at all.
Kind of like there's obviously some dodgy shit going on with 9/11 but retards see something being covered up and jump to holograms and nuclear bombs.
>>69333120
My favourite one is the one with the swimming pool they apparently drowned people in by not having a ladder
>>69333067
Found the merchant.
>>69333184
Lol I used to do that in The Sims.
>>69332454
good reply
>>69331115
You've made the mistake of thinking holocaust denial is denial of Jewish people being rounded up in camps, their were camps. But they were labour camps that got fucked by wars end by starvation and typhus.
Not extermination camps with gas chambers.
>>69332454
Censuses. The Holocaust didn't happen in sub-Saharan Africa - it happened in the heart of Europe, even if it was during wartime. Survivors either stayed there, or left for the US and Mandatory Palestine/Israel, both of which held censuses a few years later. One could argue that censuses from Eastern Bloc countries are not as reliable, and they tried to attribute their own crimes to the Nazis, but still, this would be a way of estimating the total causalities.
In his autobiographical book Night, Elie Wiesel writes that in January 1945, when he and his father were both prisoners of the murderous German Nazis at Auschwitz, they were asked by their captors if they would prefer to remain in that death camp, where countless Jews had already been murdered in gas chambers, to await the imminent arrival of their Soviet liberators, or would they rather leave with the Nazi Jew-killers who were abandoning the camp. Elie Wiesel and his dad, talking it over, agreed they would prefer to leave on the death-march retreat with German Nazis dedicated to exterminating Jews as a race rather than wait for their Soviet liberators.
You can't ask me to prove a negative. Where is your proof that 6 million jews were gassed in 6 small concrete rooms in 3.5 years?
Isn't the general consensus that it did happen, but the number of deaths were greatly exaggerated?
>>69333721
yes
>>69333184
Sims: Holocaust Edition
Join the family Goldstein and create their own unique lives. In Sims you are in control of the merchants, just like the real world, just reversed.
>>69331115
Just because you saw people with tattoos, and pictures of dead people doesn't mean they were systematically exterminated. Nor does this prove that 6 million people died. Thousands could have died. Even 50,000 and you've never seen a single picture that shows anything close to 50,000 bodies. People who died from disease or starvation were put into graves, that doesn't mean they were intentionally murdered.
Your Jew buddies were tattooed because they tried to take over Germany in 1918. They were akin to modern day terrorists.
That shitty strip of land is the beginning to the end. They'll stop at nothing until Greater Israel is real.
http://∞ch.net/polarchive/res/7.html#7
>>69333721
that was how i understood it to be
Like most things the truth is probably buried in the middle. 6 milli is a lotttttta bodies. Was it really that many? Who knows. Seems like a large effort when you're also trying to invade Europe, Russia and North Africa.
>>69330726
>spooky music
generally it's requiem for a dream or wake me up inside
yes but it was exaggerated
>>69333938
or clubbed to death from the matrix
>>69333184
Did they also put them in rooms with no doors and force them to cook with no cooking skill?
>>69330726
>what is some REAL, HARD, FACTUAL EVIDENCE that it didn't happen?
You're asking for evidence of a negative. That's not how logic works, Bruce.
>>69333938
>not o fortuna
>>69333581
Why didn't they gas this lying rat? I'm genuinely curious, did he give good head?
>>69331115
>And what’s the motivation for lying? To get the world’s sympathy so you can have a shitty little strip of land in the middle east surrounded by hostile Arabs?
You mean the shitty strip of land that they've spent the whole of their history insisting is rightfully theirs? Yeah, why would anyone think Jewish people wanted that.
>>69330726
Obviously it did happen. The only questions are: the numbers, whether he intended to kill or just expel Jews, but nobody wanted them, how many died from hunger and dysentery, how many from the actual ovens.
It did happen, but not 6 GORRILIAN level happen.
A couple hundred thousand died due to disease. Hitler hated the Jewish elites who crippled his country, not some average Joe Jew from some village.
>>69330726
>Give me the facts and evidence.
The spooky music is a important part of the evidence.
>>69334212
>>69334044
excellents choices too
OP you can literally ask this one question yourself and it breaks down the Holocaust narrative significantly.
If you're in the middle of a war fighting against world powers using all your resources, why would you go out of your way to have 6 million potential workers killed? Why dedicate resources, time and manpower to house 6 million people just to kill them? Remember, you are in war right now. It just makes no logical sense for you to do so. What does make sense is to house these people and have them work for you while maintaining them (and the Germans did) in the camps, contributing to the war effort.
It's literally no different what we did during WW2 except we arguably treated our enemies the Japanese worse by sticking them in awful camps in the middle of the shitty California desert just because they were nips.
Obviously there was some antisemitism in Nazi Germany since Hitler clearly did not like jew commies planning to take over Germany but the antisemitist sentiment was never big enough to want to indiscriminately kill all jews.
>>69332641
The Aussies are at it again brah
>>69330878
what do you think /pol/ is?
>>69333721
And very few, to no homicidal gas chambers
>>69334743
we're always at it mate
if germany really wanted to kill all the jews, why would there still be jews though?
Just like evolution with monkeys, I get that you want to believe but the monkeys/jews blow the whole "theory" out of the water. baka
>>69330726
If you can't believe in /pol/, you can't believe in anything.
>>69334342
No one claims the kikes died from ovens dumbass, not even the holohoaxers. It is a myth, a fairytale intended to brainwash children.
>>69335018
Life wouldn't be worth it without you guys brah.
>>69332679
I see this claim a lot. Proof?
Math.
Let's say that they did kill 3 million jews.
Even if it took you one minute to walk a jew over to the chamber, 2 minutes to gas him, and 1 minute to move his body, this is 2083 days of pure jew-killing if you're going around the clock, 24 hours.
It's ludicrous.
>>69335538
>M-M-M-UH GERMAN EFFICIENCY
>>69330726
it did happen, HItler killed jews, the crime is that he killed way more Germans than he killed jews, he killed the handicapped, but people like to talk about how he only killed jews when he was pretty cool to jews until they refused to go to Israel
>>69330878
they haunt the people who made money from their deaths, and they mostly live in Israel, NYC and London, they'll also haunt you if you misuse the memory of their suffering so you know ADL people getting the shit haunted out of them
also the ADL is a front for MI6
>>69335538
>Let's say that they did kill 3 million jews.
they killed 8 million Germans
wheres the reparations for that?
>>69335490
You can google the censuses before and after. I don't know what's reliable and what's not, though.
>>69335538
Nigger are you serious? It's 6 million Jews dead as a result of death camps, there was death from fatigue, execution, malnourishment, etc. They weren't all gassed/ovened.
Holy shit how can some people on this board be so fucking unedu-oh wait. Fucking leaf
Did you know Jews fetishize the Holocaust?
>>69330726
All memes aside, the jews did get shoaed. There is no academic contreversy over that fact. That being said, it's kind of a good thing that it happened.
>>69332557
Well 6 million people who were there in 1940 and weren't there in 1945 is at least some argument
>>69332454
Brilliantly put.
fuck the holocaust, fuck the jews, fuck the germans... it's all gone to shit... move on!
How many Nazis does it take to save a word document?
Trick question, the Nazis didn't save anything
>muh 6 million
I believe they were systematically destroyed because of their faith, but to turn a blind eye to the 8-10million Russians that died, or the Romany gypsies, or the polish and the homosexuals is frankly a cunt move.
The funniest thing is with all the muh concentration camps guilt they got going on they've basically been allowed to build their own on a country-wide scale
>>69336179
cause they are in hands /archive of the enemys?
>>69330726
Watch the greatest story never told. If you can't dedicate a few hours to the subject you don't deserve to start threads and complain about it.
>>69335538
but they obviously didn't gas one by one
Don't get me wrong, I believe the whole 6 million jews thing is a hoax, but your math is shit.
>>69335895
back to rebbit liberal faggot
>>69334195
>I AM SILLY!!
Always good for a laugh. And yeah, /pol/ posters are all thin German ubermensch that are just stating historical facts, and not at all just regurgitating stupid shit they hear on here and trading around infographics with red circles and photoshopped garbage.
How about try talking to someone who is actually a holocaust historian and not a /pol/ """"""""historian"""""""""
>>69336538
oh I didn't know that. Can I just see some evidence that multiple people were gassed at once?
>>69335895
>systematically exterminated =/= Dying from typhus
>>69336649
other than jew fantasy tales, nope.
>>69336731
Being incarcerated against your will and then starving to death in said camps isn't a form of extermination? Cool. We should round up everyone on /pol/, imprison them, and when they die of typhus and malnourishment, at least we can go home happy knowing that it wasn't our fault and we did nothing wrong.
Dumb fuck.
>>69335895
Not even Israel accepts the 6million figure you delusional goy.
>>69336824
>incarcerated against your will
Ban prison!
>and then starving to death
When the Allies destroyed your railway and blockaded your supply lines to the camp, those genocidal maniacs.
>>69336774
There are pictures of ovens with jewish remains in them, but it's a waste of time posting it here because you'll just say every picture was doctored or propaganda, so what's the point? You guys don't actually want evidence, you just want to deny deny deny.
>>69336824
So are you saying the japs committed genocide against most of South east asia?
>>69331115
excellent satire
>>69336916
>There are pictures of ovens with jewish remains [sic] in them
That is incontrovertible proof of the 6 gorillion.
i could be wrong but didnt hitler hate the jewish leaders or people as a whole
>>69336824
>wahh there was a war and people died
Sure is reddit in here
Funny we never hear you faggots bitch about all the Russians that died from your Bolshevik kikery.
>>69335945
Except it isn't, considering that there were only ~3 million prior to WW2.
>>69336901
>Ban prison!
>It's okay to imprison people for no reason. If you are against crimeless imprisonment, you are against prison!
God damn you guys sure do go full retard defending nazis.
>When the Allies destroyed your railway and blockaded your supply lines to the camp, those genocidal maniacs.
Yes, yes. It's the allies fault that the poor jews had no food. It's not that they were literally unable to flee due to being under forced guard and starving to death. Unable to even attempt to feed themselves. It's all the allies fault for attacking their enemy's food supply.
The problem wasn't that the US starved them to death you fucking idiot, the problem was that they were imprisoned against their will.
>>69332454
5/5
>>69333067
isn't it weird that everyone is taught that 6 million jews were killed, but almost nobody could tell you how many poles, germans, homos, brits, russians or yanks were killed
>>69336373
holo coaster
>>69336992
The opinion of the national socialists was that Germany would be better off with Jews knocked out of leadership roles, instead letting them occupy the retail industry. Later they issued an expulsion edict and put some portion of them into work camps because of the dire need for armaments, being at the centre of a world war.
>>69336992
5minutes of pure enlightenment for you
>>69336852
>citation needed
>>69336731
So some died from typhus. Others died from murder. What's your point? They died as a result of the camps and nobody doing anything about it. That's what's considered a death toll during that period for the Holocaust.
>>69336585
This is why I lurk, I enjoy this board but Jesus Christ you stormfags are impossible in these threads. I've been on this site since 03 bud, and watched Current News turn into /pol, and attract retards like you
>>69330726
It did happen, but it's been massively exaggerated over the last 70 years.
There were concentration camps, there were even some places that were converted into extermination camps by the end of the war, but it wasn't something that the Germans set out to do from day one.
Jews were largely seen as an enemy of the state going all the way back to post-WWI when they manipulated markets and bought up huge amounts of property and interests in the devastated German nation, and many Germans blamed them for the terrible poverty and long recovery after the war. These fears were only confirmed in the minds of the German people when the Nazi's nationalized the banks and many of Germany's industries and powerful Jewish bankers and businessmen started to completely lose their shit and tried to sabotage parts of the German economy and started driving a political wedge between Germany and the other European nations.
Relocation was the initial intent of the Nazi's when they started moving Jews into ghettos and eventually concentration camps. But, as the war went on, disease and starvation ravaged camp populations and somewhere along the line, the order came down to start eliminating prisoners. Executions of individual prisoners were not unheard of in the camps before, but it wasn't until late in the war that you saw systematic execution of prisoners through firing squads and repurposed gas chambers.
tl;dr version - Holocaust happened, but the majority of deaths were from disease, starvation, and exposure, not execution. Still, hundreds of thousands *were* executed, and whatever the original intent the Germans may have had with relocating and interning the Jewish population, by the end of the war clear acts of genocide had been committed.
>>69337188
I don't care if it's "weird" or you "don't get it" or "something seems off." We don't determine facts with our feelings, we determine them with evidence. Those aren't adequate reasons to deny the holocaust.
>>69337062
>unable to flee due to being under forced guard
That's what prison is.
>the problem was that they were imprisoned against their will.
Why is it a problem that they were imprisoned?
>>69337062
>oy vey goyim the jews dindu nuffin
>just ignore all those jewish communist revolutions and trade wars against germans declared by leading capitalist jews
>>69337244
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aE9qiMq8YKc
>>69330726
requests
>about the Holocaust, but what is some REAL, HARD, FACTUAL EVIDENCE that it didn't happen?
Lol right.
No you won't get that cause basically it did happen. Even if you go like read Ernst Zundel, in the end he basically says that the jews were not, for the most part, straight up murdered, but were incarcerated in horrible conditions and most died of neglect. Still dead either way. And Zundel never convinced me that he was more than partially right. Straight up murders one place, Zundels 'neglect' at another camp, further from the front? Maybe true.
But that still leaves the holocaust mostly intact and mostly true.
>>69337062
>God damn you guys sure do go full retard defending nazis.
A proclamation of fact is not a defense. Just because I don't indulge cartoonish descriptions of fictional events, doesn't mean I support putting civilians in work camps.
>Yes, yes. It's the allies fault that the poor jews had no food.
It was the fault of two parties.
>It's not that they were literally unable to flee due to being under forced guard and starving to death.
Some camps fled with the Nazis, some were left to the allies, with yet more starvation in the interim.
>the problem was that they were imprisoned against their will.
Yes.
>>69337257
>I've been on this site since 03 bud
>4chan was launched in October 1, 2003
Did you just pull that up from wikipedia?
>>69332454
>It also doesn't help that Holocaust deniers are politically motivated, and are every bit as unreliable as their counterparts.
Extremely well put. David Cole, though I know he technically can't be taken seriously now, does have good advice to people which is to study and immerse yourself in the official canon, then weigh it against revisionist claims.
But you are correct, as every revisionist with the exception of perhaps Irving, can easily be connected to right-wing politics.
>>69336901
ban starvation!
>>69337271
are you saying that you were taught the relevant numbers?
superb satire bro
>>69337271
So you're going back to the claim of 6 million systematically exterminated?
>>69337413
Dude, I've been on this site since December 03, I even remember the day I found it looking for hentai when I was 13. Shit changed my perspective on everything
>>69332454
>Read up on Rudolf Höss, the commandant of Auschwitz. The guy was tortured by British Jewish soldiers, then by polacks, and had his familiy threatened. He eventually caved and admitted to killing something like 3 million Jews.
why do you lie?
>>69337281
>That's what prison is.
Right, and now try to pay attention here: imprisoning people for no discernable or criminal reason is a major violation of liberty and a problem for a free country.
Now, it might hurt your brain a bit, but try to think this over a bit: imagine you're sitting your fat ass right where it is right now. Army busts down your down, puts you in handcuffs, puts a bag over your head, and brings you to a private camp. You're forced to work and can't leave. There is no reason for your imprisonment. The guards don't feed you, or feed you very little. They say "Sorry, enemy hit our supply lines. Guards come first".
Now, are you going to blame these enemy soldiers for your situation of starving to death or are you going to blame the people that basically kidnapped you and forced you into slavery? Think really hard about this one, you dumb fuck.
>>69337496
>December 03
How convenient
>>69337531
Hans is here to save the day with The Truth even though a spirit healthy inquiry is prohibited by law in his country!
I find David Irving's current theory quite credible —the SS under Heydrich were liquidating jews in the east unbeknownst to the Adolf Hitler and the rest of the regime, Himmler almost certainly knew as well.
Personally I think the Einsatzgruppen moved on from executing Commisars and bolshevik jews to killing ordinary jews that where being transported east and taking their valuables in order to provide Himmler and the SS with a 'black' budget — I imagine Himmler's various expeditions were an expense difficult to justify during total war.
iirc Irving even has a letter from a work camp commandant complaining that trainful of jews he was expecting had gone missing and he is told that the SS had shot them all and to keep his mouth shut or they would all be in trouble — which suggests that Hitler did not know what was going on and would have punished them if he discovered.
I think if the extermination of the jews was an official state policy there would be some evidence for it in the Enigma intercepts.
>>69337543
>there is no reason for your imprisonment.
but im sure the internment of all the japs in america was totally different because the jews are innocent little flowers right
>>69337639
no; I asked a simple question. And I repeat it.
>>69337282
>THEY ALL DESERVED TO BE IMPRISONED AND MURDERED ANYWAYS!
And here we are, at the final stormfag defense.
>>69337345
>It was the fault of two parties.
No, it was not. If you die as a direct result of wrongful imprisonment, and the guards cannot feed you and will not set you free to try to find your own food, they are responsible for your health. The key component here is the imprisonment, not the supply lines being hit.
This would be as stupid as saying that if the nazis used jewish civilians as meat shields in warfare, the US would be equally morally responsible for their deaths for attacking the Germans anyways. Stop being a fucking idiot.
>>69337543
>The guards don't feed you,
Bit of a rubbish work camp, isn't it? You get, what, one or two weeks of sub-standard work and then the workers are bed-ridden and dying.
>imprisoning people for no discernable or criminal reason is a major violation of liberty and a problem for a free country.
Oh shit, really?
>>69336373
Is it the same book who talk about the masturbator killing machine?
>500 people burned
>at least 400 childrens
I thought jews where good at math
>>69334536
Americano tells the truth
>>69337447
I'm saying the actual numbers are mostly irrelevant. Whether it's 1 million deaths with 300,000 jewish deaths or 6 million, it doesn't make much of a difference. It doesn't matter whether the figure is off or you find anything "weird" about it. That's not adequate to deny the holocaust.
Historians have probably fucked the numbers for most major wars in history, because it's not that easy to guess or count. Why you guys think the Holocaust is the one incidence of this happening, I have no idea. Estimates for deaths are always all over the fucking place.
>>69337708
nobody deserves to be murdered, sorry if its all your liberal brain can think about is murdering people but its not applicable here
>>69337689
Why would you claim I'm lying? What I wrote about Rudolf Höss is so commonly accepted in the mainstream that you can even read about it on Wikipedia.
Definitely happened. But it was mainly the sick, the elderly, women and children that were executed.
Jewish men were enslaved to production lines in underground facilities to make armaments, textiles, V2 rocket components etc .
So yeah it was 5.3 million Jewish elderly, women and children that were eliminated between 1940 and 1945 from Europe.
>>69337824
>Americano tells the truth
no, he doesn't, he worked with a false dichotomy and didn't understand what NS was about.
>>69337543
>imprisoning people for no discernable or criminal reason is a major violation of liberty and a problem for a free country.
1. Germany wasn't a free country, like many countries at the time. It certainly wasn't a breeding ground for transsexuals and niggers at the time, like it is today.
2. America imprisoned the Japs for the same reason. A foreign group of people that could be a sleeper cell for a foreign government or political movement.
Your kike buddies were singled out in particular because they tried to take over Germany in 1918 and 20,000 people died as a result. Since then they were seen as an enemy of the state and communist infiltrators into Germany, and rightfully so. Your ethnocentric kike pals felt that they were entitled to ruin Germany. Rudolf Hess even cited it as the inception of his anti-semitism and it wasn't until him and Hitler had been hanging out for several years that Mein Kampf was even produced/published.
Lots of people were put into prison camps during the war. Jews are not special.
Pic related, your commie kike pals trying to take over Germany in the same way that they did in Russia where they killed millions of Russians.
>>69337937
Who are you voting for in the next elections, friend?
>>69336241
Imagine if the gays or the retards got their own country's too
>inb4 Turkey and Turkey
>>69330726
>Give me the facts and evidence
There was a German PhD candidate who discovered that there wasn't enough lingering cyanide in the supposed gas chambers he examined to have been actual gas chambers and he published his findings. He was imprisoned for publishing literal scientific evidence that the holocaust did not occur in certain camps. Enjoy your knowledge of that.
>>69332454
Now explain why you can go to jail for writing or saying this in several countries.
>>69337320
He's describing what's happening nowadays
>>69337850
countless millions of all sorts of people killed in horrific ways, yet the only figure everyone learns at school is teh joos
why do you think this is?
>>69337903
>Why would you claim I'm lying? What I wrote about Rudolf Höss is so commonly accepted in the mainstream that you can even read about it on Wikipedia.
no it is not, maybe you read what happened to Höß, and what he actually claimed. Since you didn't bother to read anything up, you're speading lies, I just wanted to know the reason why that's all.
this is what Höß said:
Ich selbst wußte nie die Gesamtzahl, habe auch keine Anhaltspunkte, um sie wiedergeben zu können. Es sind mir lediglich noch die Zahlen der größeren Aktionen in Erinnerung, die mir wiederholt von Eichmann oder dessen Beauftragten genannt worden waren.
Ich halte die Zahl 2 1/2 Millionen für viel zu hoch."
I never knew the final number, and have no clues to cite any. What I remember are the numbers of bigger actions carried out by Eichmann, which were repeatedly mentioned by him or his mandated men. I assume the figure of 2 and a half million as much too high.
>>69337939
>1. Germany wasn't a free country, like many countries at the time. It certainly wasn't a breeding ground for transsexuals and niggers at the time, like it is today.
Ok great, you admit Germany was a barbaric shithole that had no freedom. That's a start.
I always find it funny that you guys are in favor of this kind of oppressive government stifling of free speech shit while posting on an anonymous image board founded by a fucking anime dweeb and acting like you would be immune to the government choosing you as a target for oppression. Like you'd be part of some white race elite that would be the oppressors and not the oppressed.
News flash: You aren't ubermensch. You aren't some high quality white specimen. You are more likely than not a 18-30 year old white male that has anime or video games for hobbies, is probably overweight, and probably spends entirely too much time on the internet and probably makes under a 6 figure income. You're just some shmuck, like the rest of the people on here.
>2. America imprisoned the Japs for the same reason.
Right, and we admitted this was wrong, a mistake, and paid reparations to the prisoners. We don't spend all of our waking hours denying it happened.
>Lots of people were put into prison camps during the war. Jews are not special.
It doesn't matter if the jews aren't special. They were wrongfully imprisoned and murdered, just like many other groups.
I don't think it happened, why on earth would you deliberately kill off millions of people doing forced labour for you.
>>69338024
>Who are you voting for in the next elections, friend?
I never vote, parliamentary tyranny is shit.
>>69330726
It happened, get over it. The 6 million number may be high, perhaps it was 2 or 3 but it happened nonetheless. The photographic evidence should be more than enough for your average low IQ denier but no. For some you could time travel them back and let them smell the burning flesh and they will still deny it.
>>69338313
I wasn't told only jews, and I don't care about your bullshit "HUH ISN'T THIS WEIRD!? MUST BE A CONSPIRACY! LE MERCHANT STRIKES AGAIN" bullshit. Most people are aware that there were other groups that were also imprisoned and murdered. This does not make it so that jews were not also imprisoned and murdered.
If you accept that jews were wrongfully imprisoned and murdered and your only point of disagreement is that they focus too much on the jewish people as victims and not on the other victims of the holocaust, all you're really saying is "talk more about the other persecution in the holocaust", and not denying it to begin with.
>>69330726
>evidence that it DIDN'T happen
Give me evidence that there wasn't an alien landing in your backyard op
>>69338413
this shoe belonged to my grandma
you took it off of her when you raped and murdered her with a gas chamber, the photo evidence proves it
>>69330726
Seeing as its dangerous to post my opinion on the matter, due to local laws, I wont give away too much but:
>>69332454
Dis nigga hea is asking the right questions.
Its all about how many and zyklon b vs starvation/disease.
>>69338321
That doesn't change the fact that he was tortured and his family was threatened.
Your quote comes from the memoirs he wrote in prison after giving his confession.
>>69332454
As far as I can tell, there is no tangible* evidence of the delousing chambers being used for anything other than delousing. The burden of proof still lies in the Holocaust believers to prove the event.
*tangible meaning not word-of-mouth
>>69338322
>fucking anime dweeb
>>>/reddit/
>News flash
>>>/reddit/
>white male
>>>/reddit/
>probably makes under a 6 figure income
>>>/reddit/
>shmuck
>>>/haaretz/
Insults do not an argument make.
>They were wrongfully imprisoned and murdered, just like many other groups.
Why are you glossing over those groups? Why do I never hear a word about the disabled and mentally ill -- those most helpless and defenseless groups -- who really were targeted for extermination by the national socialists?
>>69338413
You'll have to find a photo that is not a) following a typhus outbreak, b) doctored, or c) actually a pile of corpses left by the Red Army. Photos are really excellent propaganda tools, I agree.
>>69338498
oy vey goyim, da joos are speshul little snowflakes, and you must all learn about their suffering, but ignore the suffering of your own relatives
dey are teh chosen ones, teh apple of gods eye, whilst you are just dirty beasts in human form without a soul, created only to serve te joo
after all, you wouldn't want is to compare yo to hitler, would you? we'll do it, just try us
>>69334195
Their are multiple accounts and witnesses. The reason their are few documents is because the Nazis knew they were going to be beaten and burned them.
>hurr durrr
Real historians and people that believe in the gas chambers do not act like this. This is strawmanning to the extreme.
If the Holocaust didn't happen, where did all the 6mil Jews disappear to?
>>69338603
>That doesn't change the fact that he was tortured and his family was threatened.
there is no evidence he was tortured to make him confess, and there is no logical reason why the Allies should torture the witness of defence in the case Eichmann.
>Your quote comes from the memoirs he wrote in prison after giving his confession.
my guess is you read Butler, who uses no historical sources....
just dropping this
>>69338875
>Their are multiple accounts and witnesses.
well that's case proved then, there is no way for a group of witnesses to all tell the same lie
>>69338322
I don't even know where to start and I think (hope) that you're actually trolling
First, you make a shit metruc ton of as hominem and many will call on you for projecting but I get your point. I also get that your leftist rotten brain canot gasp on simple concepts like common good or sacrifice or even the simple fact that people can have the will to change for the better.
Secondly, I don't see germans denying the holocaust every breath the take, that's an American specialty. Also, denying or criticising the holocaust in Europe is a criminal offense and can end up in jail sentences. Isn't that a little suspicius?
And to finish, why are the jews the only zones to had compensation? Gypsises and gays didn't get theyre special clay or anything and you don't hear them bribging nazis up when you criticise them.
You're a special kind of idiot.
Most of them died from starvation towards the end of the war.
>>69338743
>Why do I never hear a word about the disabled and mentally ill -- those most helpless and defenseless groups -- who really were targeted for extermination by the national socialists?
Should've gone to school then.
>>69338875
>because the Nazis knew they were going to be beaten and burned them.
For what purpose?
>where did all the 6mil Jews disappear to?
Where were they in the first place? Were 6,000,000 even in Europe?
>>69338875
>>69338875
>>69338875
>>69338913
Kaltenbrunner, not Eichmann
>>69330726
>what is some REAL, HARD, FACTUAL EVIDENCE that it didn't happen?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmYFpiCo1-g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRrP7AevKi4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOfZu7lu7So
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GAQ16VVmv60
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNsbGKqjXcs
>>69333796
>Just because you saw people with tattoos
by the way, why tattoo them if you're just going to gas and burn them?
the numbers would be used for LONG TERM control, as when Germany would ship them to the Middle East after the war ended.
Do you put a bar code on an empty Coke bottle you are disposing?
>>69339014
tons of jews died in the massive fucking war raging throughout europe including a very large number by ss einsatzgruppen death squads.
if you dont want partisans to mess up your supply lines you kill the people you think will cause you trouble and instill fear into the hearts of your conquered territories, thats what war is, these claims of right wing politics inevitibly leading to planned genocidal gas chambers is poisonous lies from the very same people that forced the fascists into the bloodiest war in history for their personal gain, they will lie and kill and burn and starve and mutilate for their goal, both the liberal capitalists and the communists are partners in the greatest evil in history and these zealotous destructive ideologies based on hatred and murder should be banned for the greater good of humanity
>>69330726
Doesnt matter if it happened or not, it isnt an excuse for shitty jewish behaviour and it isnt a deterrant against proper punishment of jewish criminals.
it literally doesnt matter. There are over 24 million jews in the world today, 9 million of which do not identify as jewish and try to hide their legacy.
Its old shit the affected generations of people who aren't even alive anymore, by murder or by surving, growing old and dying. They're just as bad as niggers with
>muh gibmedat reparations
its not irrational to hate jews. Its irrational to pretend the holocaust was a recent event that affected every living jew in history. Its irrational for any jew to use holocaust stories as a means of trying to push a social agenda. Its irrational to bring it up.
>>69338743
>Why are you glossing over those groups? Why do I never hear a word about the disabled and mentally ill -- those most helpless and defenseless groups -- who really were targeted for extermination by the national socialists?
So again, your claim isn't that the holocaust didn't happen. It did. But that we simply focus on the jews too much and we should also cover the oppressed homosexuals and other groups targeted by the Reich? Ok, great. I'm all in favor of that. We can cover both.
>>69338984
I'm not trolling. Second, I didn't make any ad hominem. I pointed out that people on this board like to roleplay as alpha males and pure white specimens of greatness when that isn't reality. They also seem oblivious that they would also be oppressed under an oppressive government.
Second, I'm not left wing. I'm a conservative. I don't need to be left wing to disagree with you. And again your point ties into this idea of "greater good", "sacrifice", and "will to change" while you sit here typing to me on your ass on a dorky anime board while having to do none of those things. You guys have this unbelievable disconnect from reality and what you wish was true in your head(that you were some top alpha male that was part of some glorious white nation) to what you actually are.
>Isn't that a little suspicius?
You guys rely way too much on this stupid "isn't that weird?" "doesn't make sense to me" and other such stock lines. I don't give a shit if you find it weird. I'm not in favor of prison sentences for holocaust denial, but I think the explanation for it is actually probably pretty straightforward: they're sick of your stupid shit of denying what they view as shameful history, and they don't want it forgotten lest history repeats itself. Do I think they should ban it? No. Is it evidence that it's all fake? No.
>You're a special kind of idiot
Pot, kettle, black.
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonderkommando
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Einsatzkommando
>>69339381
superb satire, I'm impressed
>>69339333
>its not irrational to hate jews.
except there are irrational motives
> Its irrational to pretend the holocaust was a recent event that affected every living jew in history.
WW1 and WW2 with millions of dead Germans, many relatives in my family indeed did affect my families way of thinking, my grandma and mom were horrified I joined the army...this whole pacifist cuckery is a direct result of exaggereted atrocities having happened here. If the USA would have siffered the losses the Europeans did, they would have a different policy too.
>Its irrational for any jew to use holocaust stories as a means of trying to push a social agenda.
if it yields not only compassion but billions in reparations it actually is very rationalist to do so.
>>69339381
assuming you are actually rational and interested, there is a ton of info here
https://holocaustdeprogrammingcourse.com/
The record of the Trial of Zundel is pretty interesting
>>69339381
No, I claim that killing all Jews in their territory was not a policy of the government. The disabled and mentally ill are a different matter.
>>69339333
>its not irrational to hate jews. Its irrational to pretend the holocaust was a recent event that affected every living jew in history. Its irrational for any jew to use holocaust stories as a means of trying to push a social agenda. Its irrational to bring it up.
THIS
the holocaust is jews, especially American jews, sitting their fat asses on our faces and demanding we kiss it.
>>69333067
Personally I believe the Holocaust happened and it was one of the most horrible things humanity has ever done, however definitely believe the numbers were extremely exaggerated. I read somewhere that only 4 million Jews lived in Europe I find that a lot more believable then whatever nonsense the Zionists spout. So I reckon the actual death toll was a lot lower than the"6 gorillion" or whatever, most of it was probably due to disease rather than systematic extermination.
They probably exaggerated it in order to guilt Europeans into paying reparations and giving them some land.
>>69339557
Interesting that there's no similar attitude in Russia.
The Allies killed and stole your best and brightest. All that remains in Germany is a bunch of scatologically obsessed bores so deathly frightened of being compared to their betters that they are sacrificing their own nation for the amusement of Soros.
>>69338984
he's just mad because he got BTFO by me here: >>69337939
>>69339813
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJBq2rWb8eM
>>69339859
why did none of the alleged homicidal gas chambers have prussian blue staining on the walls? like the delousing chambers that did
>>69330726
> Evidence that it didn't happen.
Burden of proof lies on the accuser, anon.
>>69339859
>I read somewhere that only 4 million Jews lived in Europe
you read somewhere. How about verification?
rest is kinda true, I mean no one gets arrested for saying only [insert figure] Poles died, or only [insert figure] Russians died in WW2. It indeed serves as propagandistic tool to oppress the public opinion, if you don't like let's say mass immigration, then you're a Nazi just like the Auschwitz camp guards.
>>69339884
The Axis barely killed any Brits and yet your nation is a sad husk of it's former glory.
>>69340095
I know.
>>69330726
Here's a classic, and a must watch, about why gas chambers never existed: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tefYdZICYgc
Doesn't uncover the whole thing, but still, this is undeniable proof by a once renown French historian that Auschwitz gas chambers not only are a lie, they simply could not have existed as such, when Germans definitely had the abilities to make proper gas chambers. Dig deeper into that man's work, you'll find the proof about the other camps.
It's not so much that he denies the holocaust, nor the suffering or jews, simply that gas chambers are a fabrication. He's only a humble historian in search of the truth, no matter how ugly it is.
>>69330726
Go read David Cole/Stein's work and just be done with it anon
>>69339978
I don't know it's not something I've ever really looked into, maybe they used some other sort of gas or used another method of execution.
Honestly I don't know much about Prussian Blue other than its used in treating radiation.
>>69339381
You're assuming we're all the same and that's pretty moronic. I, myself, am part of génération identitaire and was among other things, at the Calais protest we had last month. And I'm sûre plenty of other canons aren't just basement dwellers who jerk off to anime.
You're starting to make a fool of yourself and I'm pretty sure it's satire now.
>>69330878
DO YOU THINK THIS IS A MOTHERFUCKING GAME?
>>69339884
>Interesting that there's no similar attitude in Russia.
they were on the march towards that, but Putin ended it - hence the massive anti Russian propaganda in media here.
>The Allies killed and stole your best and brightest. All that remains in Germany is a bunch of scatologically obsessed bores so deathly frightened of being compared to their betters that they are sacrificing their own nation for the amusement of Soros.
well we're fat and impotent, like Churchill wanted. Interestingly this is the case for all Western Europe though, no matter they had been on the Axis, Allies or neutral side. My take is Orthodox culture never had the guilt complex like the Lutheran and Catholic mythology has.
>>69339955
He's either a mad JIDF, a high scool naïve or a clever troll
>>69332454
>millions of jews died
No. Literally impossible.
6 camps, about 2 trains running every 3 days transporting about 2000 people. That's only ~243,000 people transported a year. This is assuming they run 24/7, which they don't, so I'm going to cut that number in half. ~121,500 people per year.
Holohoax supposedly went down for 3 years. That means at maximum efficiency only about ~364,500 people could be transported.
Lets look at the math of the 6 gorrirrion. It's stupid.
In order to kill 6 million jews in ~3 years you'd have to kill 5479 people a day. Given that each camp's gas chamber could only be used about once a day, and that it could only house about 50 people per hit, 5479 people divided by 6 camps would be 913 people killed every year.
Given they can only transport about 1000 people every 3 days, this number makes absolutely no sense. Gas chambers could only kill about 50 people a day per camp. That's 300 people per all 6 camps.
Given transportation limitations, all 6 camps could only get about (1000*(365/3)/6)=20,277 people a year. Or ~55 people a day.
6 million is obvious bullshit, and is absolutely impossible to do.
So given the obvious limitations on transport times given ww2 era train speeds and tech, and the ridiculous numbers they'd have to pull off, the holohoax should be estimated at only about 100,000 people killed.
Some more statistics.
>simple arithmetic disproves jewish lies
>jews relied on goyim being too stupid to do simple math
>jews probably laughing at how stupid liberals are at never questioning the #
>>69330726
>'Holocaust survivor'
If there were a systematic genocide of Jews, and that was the purpose of the war and the top priority for the Nazis, then no one would have survived.
They wouldn't have kept them in camps for more than a day. They would have just shot them. All of them. And burned the bodies on massive pyres, not in cremation furnaces.
If the Nazis really wanted them dead, there would have been no survivors.
>>69332454
How is it that a Nord articulates better than most Americans/Brits/Aussies?
GG bro.
>>69340197
yes, david coles vid is pretty good, I like the way he got an interview with the head of the auschwitz museum becuase he was a jew
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQjNs-Ght8s
>>69340212
it's a blue staining caused by concentrated cyanide gas, zyklon b was a pellet form of the gas which was poured in and the gas evaporated
the holohoax rests on the gas chambers
>>69340509
lots of jews dies but not by gas chambers and not specifically targeted for genocide.
they were just shot in the head like every one else in the biggest war in history happing right on top of them
>>69340569
An excellent point, but I'd expect that many people would come to the "but they wanted to preserve their soldiers' mental health" idea. So we have soldiers who are simultaneously murderous and cruel (gouging out eyes on the spot, ripping off babies' arms, making lampshades out of skin, strapping boys to masturbation machines and wanking them to death) yet fragile and weepy with PTSD at the same time.
>>69340081
It was ages ago on a similar /pol/ thread some anon posted a link up and I read the article. I'm sure a quick Google search would find it.
I've been called a Nazi for that exact example kek. I even remember some punk commie faggot threatened to kill me if I didn't believe in the "official" version of the Holocaust.
>>69340721
Ok, but the official European population of jews in 1939 was estimated at around 2 million. How the fuck could the 6 trillion have happened? Di they somehow triple their population right before 1943 when the genocides supposedly started?
>>69338913
Here's a picture of him after he was captured. The Jewish soldiers who captured him, only found out about his whereabouts by threatening his wife with killing their son.
Here's a quote form his memoirs:
On March 11, 1946, at 11 p.m., I was arrested. My vial of poison had broken just two days before. The arrest was successful because I was frightened at being awakened out of a sound sleep. I assumed that it was a robbery because there were a lot of them occurring in the area.
I was treated terribly by the [British] Field Security Police. I was dragged to Heide and, of all places, to the same military barracks from which I had been released eight months before by the British. I do not know what was in the transcript, or what I said, even though I signed it, because they gave me liquor and beat me with a whip. It was too much even for me to bear. The whip was my own. By chance it had found its way into my wife's luggage. My horse had hardly ever been touched by it, much less the prisoners. Somehow one of the interrogators probably thought that I had constantly used it to whip the prisoners.
After a few days I was taken to Minden on the Weser River, which was the main interrogation center in the British zone. There they treated me even more roughly, especially the first British prosecutor, who was a major. The conditions in the jail reflected the attitude of the first prosecutor.
Surprisingly, after three weeks I was shaved, my hair was cut, and I was allowed to wash myself. My handcuffs had not been opened since my arrest. The next day, I was taken by car to Nuremberg together with a prisoner of war who had been brought over from London as a witness in Fritsche's defense. Compared to where I had been before, imprisonment with the IMT [International Military Tribunal] was like staying in a health spa.
>>69341002
i guess it depends on what you consider to be a jew, "jew" is a fuzzy concept. im sure the people pushing the holyhoax consider the definition as wide as possible
>>69339290
For ID porpuses? Most concentration camps were labour camps, so they need some way to identify everyone, conceivably
>>69340773
>It was ages ago on a similar /pol/ thread some anon posted a link up and I read the article. I'm sure a quick Google search would find it.
well, you should research it, not me, I know the figure is wrong. Mind you there are several ways to count Jews, Orthodox rabbies e.g. never include non-observant Jews into their figures, whereas NS counted racial Jews too, meaning atheists or converts. That is an interesting case: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anton_Graf_von_Arco_auf_Valley
>I've been called a Nazi for that exact example kek. I even remember some punk commie faggot threatened to kill me if I didn't believe in the "official" version of the Holocaust.
well, the official communist version is 4 million died in Auschwitz, right? I find this juggling with numbers weird, I mean just because the exact numbers of deads in Dresden is not known, no one claims there had been no bomb raid in Feb '45...
>>69341151
>>69341002
whats important is that 100 million human beings died because of anglo jealousy and russian aggression.
>>69341349
you mean the zio puppet churchill, and the schiff funded jewish bolsheviks?
>>69332454
It's a good post but you need to reconsider 'millions'.
4/5
>>69341472
whether there is an evil jewish conspiracy controlling your government i cannot say, i can only say that it is evil, jealous, and thirsty for innocent blood
>>69341069
>Here's a picture of him after he was captured. The Jewish soldiers who captured him, only found out about his whereabouts by threatening his wife with killing their son.
Hanns Alexander had no reason to be soft, your tale is fake though as his family could not have known he was trying to escape wearing a regular navy NCO's uniform.
Also there is no reason to torture him to confess, he was a witness and why would the Allies bother to torture him to confess a lower number of murdered people?
>>69330726
>you right now.
>>69330726
I know we like to joke, but I want to program artificial intelligence from scratch. I want to be a billionaire, selling completely original software that I make from scratch, but I want to get started living tht life when I wake up, not ten years from now.
Now teach me what I need to know in three posts or less.
>>69337425
>David Cole, though I know he technically can't be taken seriously now
Why not?
>>69341725
>>69341760
damn never saw this on tv
Many of them evacuated? what does this mean gerbro? 633.300 jews
also 1,786 336? or executed?
>>69341421
>finally someone posts something good
>try to read it
>really try to read it because i know german
>fuck this shit its hurting my eyes
>>69341421
>>69341462
>>69341498
>>69341557
>>69341596
>>69341664
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>>69342056
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korherr_Report
>>69341795
73.417 got imprisioned
36 943 got released
27 347 got killed
>>69342154
It's talking about the numbers of POWs in each camp. It starts at 1939 and then abruptly jumps to 1943 when there are only about 60k jews left out of 2.2mil+ in 1939. I couldnt read the shit inbetween but if it talks about typhus, bombed supply lines and starvation then I guess its good evidence.
>>69330850
this, the hoax is so intricate and deceptive that a summary won't be enough evidence to fully convince anyone. The stance we take of it being a hoax to normies is pretty fucking bizarre to them. Also considering we have been subconsciously indoctrinated into the holocaust it's hard to deny it for most people, even in the face of evidence.
To understand the fuckery of the jews. How they controlled Churchill, Stalin and Roosevelt. The tortured confessions at the nuremberg trials and falsified evidence.
The constant and dwindling change of the 6million figure
The gas chambers not existing, despite claims they do still exist. However after tests for Zyklon residue, the results came up with nothing.
Lamp shades and soap myth
The fact that nobody when speaking about WW2 nobody will bring up Typhus and how many died in the camps because of it.
The banning of holocaust denial (hate speech laws)
and a whole heap of other shit I cbf explaining
>>69337425
>every revisionist with the exception of perhaps Irving, can easily be connected to right-wing politics.
Really?
Robert Faurisson can be connected to right wingers?
David Cole (a jew, that only recanted after being persecuted and having his family threatened) can be connected to right wingers?
Very few of them actually can.
>>69337531
He's correct. This isn't even revisionism, the official version clearly says Hoess was tortured.
He then first admitted to killing 4 millions jews in Auschwitz, then only 3, then 2 and a half, and now about 1.
>>69341752
I think it's pretty clear that you have no interest in the truth, and are just twisting and denying every piece of evidence to suit your own preconveived notion of the truth.
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/arts/books-and-media/nazi-hunter-exploring-the-power-of-secrecy-and-silence/article15311820/
"Fuelled by this anger, and sometimes overriding the orders of his superiors, Alexander became a relentless hunter, threatening neighbours who might be protecting fugitives, arresting their children and once driving across Europe with the body of a dead Nazi strapped to the roof of his car.
Alexander brought Hoss to ground in Gottrupel, Germany, in 1945. Hoss denied his identity, insisting he was a lowly gardener, but Alexander saw his wedding ring and ordered Hoss to take it off, promising to cut off his finger if he didn’t. Hoss’s name was inscribed inside. The Jewish soldiers accompanying Alexander began to beat Hoss with axe handles."
https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/magazine/hiding-in-n-virginia-a-daughter-of-auschwitz/2013/09/06/1314d648-04fd-11e3-a07f-49ddc7417125_story.html
Also, here's a testimony from Höss daughter:
“I remember when they came to our house to ask questions,” she says, her voice tight. “I was sitting on the table with my sister. I was about 13 years old. The British soldiers were screaming: ‘Where is your father? Where is your father?’ over and over again. I got a very bad headache. I went outside and cried under a tree. I made myself calm down. I made myself stop crying, and my headache went away. But I have had migraines for years after that. These migraines stopped a few years ago, but since I received your letter, they have started again.”
The story continues. “My older brother Klaus was taken with my mother. He was beaten badly by the British. My mother heard him scream in pain from the room next door. Just like any mother, she wanted to protect her son, so she told them where my father was.”
>>69342493
Holocaust denial isn't synonymous with Right-wing politics.
Pure coincidence.
>>69330726
need any more facts?
>>69342852
God, they're all so beautiful. What fucking happened?
>>69342561
nope, read what was posted. Also it makes no sense to torture the witness of defence, and make him admit lower numbers, this makes no sense.
revisionism means looking into history, not just parroting claims. There is no evidence anywhere he had been tortured to make a confession.
>>69337496
Hentai so close to Jesus's celebration?
You fucking degenerate.
>>69343007
It's strange. If you look at men born before the 1980s, they look different from many modern day millennials.
I mean, the numales of today look like an entirely new race. I have to wonder if it's something physical. The only thing I can think of is the gradual decrease in testosterone that's been happening over the last few decades. That would also explain the recent wave of transsexuals.
>>69335912
No, I didn't.
>>69336373
Is that the bullshit that is in that book. I had a Jewish friend back in school. The mantel over their TV was covered with Holocaust books and I'm pretty sure this was one of them.
>>69337814
I don't think so. But here you go
>>69330726
You have it backward.
They have to to prove it. You prove a positive, not a negative.
Also fun fact. They have no documents singed by Hitler nor Himmler declaring the extermination of all juden.
Also fun fact. In the true story of The St. Luis one of the more famous Jews was actually released from auschwitz (arbeit macht frei) after he worked for a bit on the conditions he leaves Germany before a certain date.
Last fun fact. Ann Frank died in a hospital. Silly Germany caring for the juden they were trying to gas.
>>69343408
Being dominated by leather-clad SS officers was such a popular and shameful fetish in Israel after WW2 that Israel had to ban it. It's like the ultimate submission fetish.
>>69342493
Leftists are indoctrinated to dismiss anything right-wing as illegitimate, regardless of whether that's a basic fallacy or not. If the author is conservative, even remotely, if he ever voted for a "conservative" party, all his work is a lie and part of a vast right wing conspiracy to deny the suffering of the jews out of racist hate.
It's why the holohoax was necessary in the first lace, to cement the post-war political and ideological order, the obscure the crimes committed by the allies, and to enforce the ideological legitimacy of their political re-arrangements of global order.
The holohoax was never about facts. You don't need to criminalize people who research it if it's a simple matter of objective historical analysis. Anyone who looks at the matter without political motivation can see it's a fraud that the authors themselves are constantly revising, then screaming at anyone else who tries to make revisions independently.
Only Jews are allowed to study it, because it rationalizes the state of Israel's existence, and Israel's role as a post-colonial proxy of European powers in a region still responsible for strategic global energy production. More gentile POWs died than Jews, deliberately or otherwise in German ocupied areas. There were no orders from Hitler to exterminate any group. The mass executions that did take place appear to be on the orders of Himmler, and they're limited to specific times and places at points in the war where he was scared that Hitler's stated intent to expel the Jews would not come to fruition. Himmler wrote extensively about having a near nervous breakdown over the things he kept secret from Hitler, this was one of them.
Even Netanyahu admits there was no policy to exterminate the Jews. This would have violated natsoc principles of each race having it's own nation. Hitler saw himself as a knight; he cared more about honor than winning. It was his hubris.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dadgep_e0Hc
>>69330726
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmYFpiCo1-g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VA9v-TFJOkM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a67CCA-WSVU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJYexBnOnBc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZ_9lTiSk80
>>69343598
>Also fun fact. They have no documents singed by Hitler nor Himmler declaring the extermination of all juden.
but you have speeches and actions which can be verified.
>Also fun fact. In the true story of The St. Luis one of the more famous Jews was actually released from auschwitz (arbeit macht frei) after he worked for a bit on the conditions he leaves Germany before a certain date.
Before October 1941 the emigration of Jews was encouraged, after that dare outlawed. so no contradiction here.
>Last fun fact. Ann Frank died in a hospital. Silly Germany caring for the juden they were trying to gas.
hospitals named extermination camps were known for good food and treatment...
Katyn massacre
>revised by the allies, opposite to original claim
2/4/6/4/2 million victims
>revised by Polish authorites multiple times
Auschwitz containing gas chambers, conveyor belts, electrocution pools, absurd devices, etc
>revised multiple time by the allies, the soviets, jewish historians
That Auschwitz had to be reconstructed to resemble a death camp, and was not capable of conducting mass institutions as a facility
>proven in a Canadian hate crimes trial
>proven by Germar Rudolf years later
>Rudolf imprisoned over peer reviewed forensics paper, though never discredited
Ursula Havebeck
>improsoned
Germar Rudolf
>imprisoned, exiled
David Irving
>imprisoned multiple times
David Cole
>lived under death sentence from Jewish extremists
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPa_QeV9KDM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbiWPtT7TAI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmYFpiCo1-g
Maybe the problem is not that anyone who revises the holocaust is right wing, maybe the problem is that the left, the allies, and the Jews have a Holocaust industry they need to protect. You don't need laws to protect history. Scholars don't need to be imprisoned to protect the truth.
>>69341325
> 4 million died in Auschwitz
This would have have taken the equivilient of 800,000 barrels of oil OR 128,000,000 M3 of natural gas, Or 400,000 tons of wood Or 163,000 tons of coal to burn all of those bodies.
Its a lot of fuel.
For a nation at war.
>>69343277
poison in the water supply, because of plastics and other chemicals. ignorance not jew scheming.
