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>North Aleppo (April 14)
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>Tel al Eis (April 14)
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>Latakia (April 11)
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>Daraa (April 8)
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>Hit, Iraq (April 7)
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>E. Homs Roads (April 3)
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DEVELOPMENTS (April 14)
>Syrian fighter jet shot down by ISIS in Al-Sweida
>ISIS claims to capture the Darbahom Oil Field in east Aleppo
>Battle for Aleppo city begins as Syrian Army advances in the north
>Syrian army, Allies storm and gain in Handarat area
>Russia denies claims of ISIS downing jet in Syria’s Raqqa
>Syrian Army captures Al-Mallah Farms in northern Aleppo
>Rebels flee across Turkish border as ISIS snatches more villages
>ISIS begins new operation to seize reconciled village in rural Damascus
>Syrian Army foils Nusra infiltration attempt in northern Latakia
>Syrian Army amasses 11,000 soldiers for the Aleppo offensive
>ISIS demolishes priceless historical sites in Iraq
Previous thread >>71009378
>SouthFront April 14
http://youtu.be/l9NUVIPJfDs [Embed]
Reposting because new thread
Hey guys I'm looking for the combat footage from Syria. I think FSA is getting shot to pieces in it by SAA heavy weapons, possibly armor. They are in some kind of ditch in a village and branches and shit is flying all around them from all the gunfire, eventually they get hit by I think a tank or something and the cameraman gets hit also and they all die
Anyone know what I'm talking about?
First for /tv/
i just woke up
I wonder why they painted their hair with such a colours.
http://www.pravoslavie.ru/english/91547.htm
nth for triggering roaches
>>71029435
Isn't tumblr banned in Russia?
>>71029435
They watched too much anime.
>>71029435
Did you report them to the FSB?
>>71029450
They ara gagavuz türks. What's wrong if they are christian. lol just lol
>>71029450
it doesnt say anything about turkey?
>>71029435
You'll get a state-sponsored waifu if you report them to your local commissar
>>71029542
Don't head such a thing. I don't have account to log in, but site works fine without proxy.
>>71029435
I think I know who's behind this.
>>71029600
Why should I?
Qassem Soleimani arrives in Moscow for military talks
https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/prominent-iranian-general-arrives-moscow-military-talks/
>>71029435
They are very special people with beautiful unique personalities.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EnFOohHhsDQ&feature=youtu.be
Russians in Palmyra. En francais.
NTH FOR DEAD RUSKIS
>LOOK AT THAT FACE!!!1 HOW SCARY
>>71030121
>Hey Ivan, you know what they call IED in Paris?
>>71030141
Have a (You) worst neighbor.
Something is brewing in Iraq.
There has been political a lot maneuvering between the shiites in Baghdad.
And now Maliki and Muqtada Sadir have visited Lebanon to see Hezbollah leader and friends.
Baghdad coupe2016 soon.
Someone post ottofaggot's face. I want to be scared.
Humanitarian aid and medics arrived in Latakia
https://twitter.com/SanaAjel/status/720961600878952448
>>71030283
>>71030335
gypsy subhuman
>>71030141
>Ottoman when?
Never.
>>71030261
I'm glad USA brought democracy and stability to Iraq.
>>71030335
WAAAH so scared. Is mom taking you to school on this one?
>>71030335
sp00ked
>>71030393
gay dutch,pls
>>71030283
Head
>>71030459
my mom teaches me :DD how to drive
>>71030335
>>71030544
Or do you alwant the whole body too?
>>71030261
Purge the Sunnis.
>>71030470
how many tranny brothels are theyre in instanbul?
makes you think
I just came home from work and what do I not see... Greater Syria! Greater Syria now!
>>71029812
They are obviously anti-Russian USA backed subversionists.
>>71030698
Looks British.
>>71030698
>He died.
That shouldn't be funny.
>>71030698
Looks like an anglo
>>71030713
WE
WUZ
CYPRUS
>>71030758
repostan yesterdays OC
>>71030629
If there will be a coup, the next government would much more anti-sunni than the current one.
>>71030321
have they made sure there are no flour bags??
you dont want those bags falling in the wrong hands man...
>>71030753
fuck, wish erdogan did this for the other 4 million
>>71030626
Russia will be balkanized by China in our lifetime.
>>71028837
>https://www.hrw.org/news/2016/04/14/turkey-open-borders-syrians-fleeing-isis
>Turkey should stop shooting at Syrian civilians fleeing fighting and immediately allow them to cross the Turkish border to seek protection, Human Rights Watch said today.
>"We were about 2,000 people. As we approached the border wall we saw Turkish soldiers on a hill behind the wall and they just started shooting at us. They shot at our feet and everyone just turned round and ran in all directions. I took my family and we walked to another [displaced persons] camp nearby, called al-Rayan. We’re afraid now because ISIS is close to this camp too. But where can we go."
>>71030926
>But where can we go.
Maybe take up arms and defend your homeland?
>>71029377
plz
>>71030926
Atleast Turkey has good border control.
>>71030926
You realize that people here will only applaud something like that?
>>71030844
Sounds like the US will need to save the poor oppressed Sunnis under the tyrannical Shiite government...
>>71030629
Sikhs killed Shia as well. Purge Mudslimes in general desu.
>>71030898
Even though chinks are very effective they still have Africa and US to ruin before they get their hands on Russia.
>>71031043
Oh god here we go again
John Kerry control yourself pls
Maybe if the population fought back against the terrorists, this whole situation would be over, nah, just run away to another country and let someone else deal with it. And when the terrorists follow them, the whole situation will repeat
>>71030470
>gay Dutchmen
This is what you're fantasizing about atm?
>>71030802
Thanks for the laugh m8
NTH FOR GREATER TURKEY!!!
>>71031078
Not to mention that whole "touch our borders and we nuke you" deal.
Are there any new awesome butthurt tweets from Jihadi Julian?
>>71031145
Yes. I want his white ass
>>71030335
How old are you? 12?
Where's your beard?
>>71030626
my sides
>all this fucking turkposting
>>71031250
I am baby face :DD
>>71030926
based t b h
>>71030698
Grown up beheaders are too comfy in Germoney living the neet dream.
>>71031168
Nice HK417 that t*rk has in his hands. How many you bought or did you just steal them?
>>71031353
We bought. I don't know how many probably 50000
>>71030926
How is this bad?
>>71031027
Yeah I know, but that just shows the hypocrisy of Turkey. They claim to be helping the Syrian people and that they are taking rapefugees, while at the same time shoot them whenever possible to avoid taking more of them. At the same time they are supplying militants, pouring jihadists on Syria and trading with ISIS; further increasing the problem.
>>71030926
We could be doing this but le eternal kraut be like
>"Greece be tolerant :DD"
>>71031402
Nice, they are far better than those damn G3s you had before.
Who Russian/Belarusian/Ukrainian descent here?
>>71029377
yes, I remember it but I'm too lazy to looking for it now kek
>>71031233
>mfw born dutch
>mfw turkish subhumans wifes cant enough of aryan cock while turkish husbands watch waiting to clean up the sperm with their mouths
>mfw they tell me they are far relatives that married eachother because their families told em so
>mfw fucked inbred subhumans
>>71029435
Such people vote for https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yabloko
>>71031514
Yep we produce our rifle named MPT-76 instead of g3
>>71029274
>LACK OF EDITION EDITION
more like; lack of fresh sauce edition
>>71031623
Do want.
What's that thing on the table between the gun and the bayonet?
>>71031416
Not bad, just proves this pic is true, which turkroaches always try to deny.
>>71029450
we actually used to have other christian turks called karamanli in turkey, they were sent over to greece alongside the greeks during the population exchange after the independence war though
there are still some christian turks in turkey today, they are impossible to differentiate unless you directly ask them their religion though lol
>>71030261
What is more important part of Iraq to Iran, Kurdish or Shia Arab one? Is there any way for Iran to get Barzani over to their side, away grom Turkey?
>>71031623
>gripod
>no optics
/k/ would like a word with you
>>71031735
knife sheath
>>71031831
here it is m8
>>71031735
Dude... it's a scabbard. I do understand that you have never seen one since knives are illegal there but c'mon.
>>71031815
Sunni parts is most important to Iran, since the shiite parts are basically an extension of Iran.
The Kurdish part has very good relations with Iran. Especially the PUK region which is bordering Iran.
Barzani has good relations with Iran, and they're currently negotiating exporting oil through Iran to reduce dependency on Turkey.
>>71031877
Armed insects.
What's the world coming to?
>>71031475
we have 3 million fucking refugees in turkey you retard
we don't need any more, ask your jewbuds to accept them if you care so much
>>71031877
Better, though that stock seems a little bulky. I'm just used to my fagpul adjustable stock I guess.
>>71031475
they took in like 4 million dude, what the fuck more do you need to do?
you cant help everyone, plus that article is from april 14, ea after the european deal, so it sounds like to me the european union has more fault here since its very highly part of the deal
>>71032034
why don't you ask your oilfags to accept your mudslime brothers?
>>71032034
>implying they were not the main responsible of all this mess
If Erdogan wasn't full retard and caused all this mess in its neighboring country they wouldn't need any rapefugee.
Or maybe they could just let the YPG take the turkish border from ISIS and repatriate many of those rapefugees.
>>71032212
A FUCKING pineapple
>>71032157
Stop arming FSA and let the war end.
>>71032287
Your flag looks like pac-man eating a dick
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1INX_8zPiQ
The First Regiment Aleppo based FSA rebels shoot at Syrian AAF aircraft.
>>71031537
>I remember as a 2 years old kid in 1990 getting a present from Yugo Deda Mraza.
Fuck Santa Claus.
>>71032287
yes. turkroachfree pineapple
>>>>>>71031493
>>71032157
EU could be pressing or not. That doesn't change the fact that Turkey keeps escalating the conflict and then turning a blind eye when the people they claim to be helping ask for help.
>>71032440
>>71032262
you armed the moderate headchoppers in syria, akp was happy to help
it isn't the fault of the turkish nation as a whole, we even asked to create a refugee zone but it was refused, i wish we had sent all these rapefugees over to europe desu you guys deserve it
>>71032212
oilfags are barely people, jews at least know what they are doing
>>71031877
the optics on one those weapons is a thermal sight designed and produced in turkey as well, called engerek-3
Do you guys follow any livejournals?
>>71032598
I will never forgive you for Constantinople...
But thank you, thank you for the glory that is Don Roach. He brightens my days.
>>71032728
That sounds interesting...
>>71030844
Can you inform me on this whole sunni sjiet thing?
Which has all the radicals?
hello my infidel friends. it seems the reason we has many cops because of capturing many illegal immigrants.
>>71031100
Thats why ndf/sdf is so important. But hey needd weapons to defend themselves.
Just a ak-47 isnt enough to fight against a whole isis batalion with pick up trucks mounted with machine guns etc.
>>71032698
>you armed the moderate headchoppers in syria, akp was happy to help
>w-we were just f-following orders
Then why didn't you help the YPG when US asked? Clearly you don't care about your masters' orders. Turkey armed the FSA, Nusrats and traded with ISIS because they thought it was a good idea, but when things go wrong they immediately blame their masters.
>we even asked to create a refugee zone but it was refused
That would have been fine if it was coordinated with the Syrian government, but Turkey's intentions were obviously avoid the linkage of the 2 YPG regions and to get some clay from Syria.
>>71029846
http://en.farsnews.com/newstext.aspx?nn=13950127000798
>Iranian Defense Minister Hossein Dehqan may discuss deals to buy Russian fighter Su-30SM jets and T-90 tanks during his visit to Moscow on April 26-27
>>71031537
me
>>71032728
ofc, in Russian internet it's one of most popular blog-platform lol
>>71032817
rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr--------------------------oach
>>71033009
> illegal immigrants.
Are they muslim?
>>71032034
If they would have stopped isis instead of letting them fuck over Kurds, you wouldnt have that much to begin with. Instead you bomv kurds, let rebels/terrorist flow freeky trough the border and buy is oil.
Turks confirmed for retards. If you would have heloed defend Kobani you would have so many refugees.
>>71033119
And they failed miserably, as their proxy shitters got rekt by ISIS, losing a lot of gear to them.
So the world sees that "FSA" is incompetent once again.
>>71033220
no one knows. but this is what i heard
>>71030335
very ugly
>>71033351
russia is subhuman
>>71033136
Ok, I was reading the el murid livejournal in the last weeks and I'd like to know if anyone here read it too and what they think about it.
https://z5h64q92x9.net/proxy_u/ru-en.en/el-murid.livejournal.com/
http://el-murid.livejournal.com/
>>71030335
heading east
good
>>71033321
Pooinloos?
You guys import guptas to do the manual labour, right?
>>71030335
S L A V I C R A P E B A B Y
>>71033351
>medicine for loyalists
>krokodil for the rebels
>>71033410
You have high blood pressure
>>71033419
i really dont know.
>>71032262
American caused all this mess. You can shit on Erdogan how much you want, he didnt start this. Point.
>>71032451
Not everyone who asks for help needs actual help. The guy in the article claims isis could attack it, not that it has been attacked. And even if they cross into Turkey there is no space, the only reason for them to be in Turkey is to cross over to Europe.
>>71033119
He clearly didnt only blame you. He said that simply Turkey was the only one to blame. And its retarded that by now you still dont understand how Turkey feels about ypg and why dont want them there.
>>71032319
So you are saying if Turkey stops supporting some of the FSA the war ends? Is that what you are claiming?
>>71033484
WOW WHAT A GREAT HELPFUL RUSSIA. IN SYRIA HELPS PEOPLE FOR OIL
>>71033612
Russia can help you glow at night. Be polite.
>>71033119
>Then why didn't you help the YPG
we helped ypg, the leader of ypg salih muslim himself had said that without turkey ypg would never happen
turkish army, just like the iraq invasion, was against the arming of moderate headchoppers in syria. this has caused a lot of tension between the secret service who was delivering arms and the turkish army who was trying to stop it.
>but when things go wrong they immediately blame their masters.
filthy warmongering american scum and your dogs are ruining this country
we will remove you both on the day of the rope
>That would have been fine if it was coordinated with the Syrian government
if you think that the syrian government would allow turkey to enter syria you are a braindead retard
>>71033307
"if turkey would have helped terrorists who are anti turkey, turkey would have been better off, so thats why turkey is confirmed retarded, for not helping anti turkey terrorists"
yes, you are right, turkey is a retard
>>71033564
Stop being retards, stop arming "FSA" and Nusrats and it all fucking ends before 2017. Muh Assad must go is no longer a viable option for Syria, so it's kinda high time your retarded leadership gets it into it's nerve clusters and stops prolonging the war.
Unless of course you're fine with keeping the seven gorillion refugees for another 10 years, because EU will stop bending over for them very soon.
Does anybody have source for this?
http://webmshare.com/dL4qb
I'm 90% certain it's a roach but I can't interpret any of the roach babble to google the words
>>71033701
usa will destroy russia ;=)
>>71033737
Okay, if you say so.
>>71033307
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/oct/28/iraq-kurdish-fighters-fly-turkey-kobani-peshmerga-syria-isis
we literally allowed kurdish peshmerga to enter kobani over turkey to liberate it, armed them with weapons ammunition and supplies even
is pol really full of so many retards?
>>71031145
OMG Turkey is a bunch of fags!!!
Now I know what they did to those little boys they took after the fall of Constantinople.
Mudslime RE-Education!!!
>>71031568
sounds gay
>>71033845
You will burn first.
And we will watch it.
>>71033131
USA said they will act against any sale of modern fighter planes to Iran, especially Sukhois.
>>71030335
I would fuck you up the ass so hard, not even kidding. I didn't think it was possible for Middle Eastern twinks to be attractive, but now I'm proven wrong. Tell me man, do you ever get worried going on Grindr? Does Turkey have those people who troll the listings and meet up with people only in order to beat them like Russia does?
>>71034137
Like, how.
>>71034149
*cringes*
Hi /sg/
>>71033321
Its mostly Abedos but there are Indians over there too
Abedos are Arabs who are trying to get Kuwaiti Citizenship and the Indians also want that so they can keep working over there
>>71034210
Oh come on, don't say you're not asking for a big cock up your ass with that sexy t-shirt and haircut. The awesome thing about twinks in developing places like the Middle East or Latin America is that they're not going to be whiny sjw bitches like their first world counterparts. I mean, I could literally have you over for sex and you wouldn't comment negatively about my swastika flag. There would simply be an unspoken... understanding.
>>71033119
USA and Turky argue about who is the bigger moderate rebels supporter.
kek
>Aleppo assault starting today
>ottoman woke up early and is ruining /sg/ even more than usual
How long will this war last?
I think till the end of 2017
>>71034452
Can't wait for the videos to be uploaded to Youtube
I love watching the videos desu
>>71034452
Has anything happend other than the attack at Handarat?
>>71034452
You really should filter and hide his posts.
>>71034533
so much sand to capture. no end in sight.
>>71034208
As a part of Iran deal over nuclear program there is a clause that says that every sizeable conventional weapons purchase must be approved by UN Security Council. Meaning they would veto it.
https://meziesblog.com/2016/04/09/the-us-is-stopping-russia-from-selling-advanced-fighter-jets-to-iran/
>>71033985
Sorry my bad.
Thank you for correcting me :p
Still I think you could be doing more. Not just in terms of refugees since you are already having a shit ton kf them.
Note, those arent the same type of refugees ee get. We get niggers and sandniggers who want gibs me thats.
>>71034675
>Sizeable
>Make a deal for 1 Su-30
>It's not sizeable so it doesn't matter
>Make a deal for 1 Su-30 every week
>>71034533
IT WILL LAST FOREVER
>>71033714
>we helped ypg, the leader of ypg salih muslim himself had said that without turkey ypg would never happen
Yeah they provided limited support, like when they let Peshmerga defend Kobani, but they refused to provide the support that US wanted.
>turkish army, just like the iraq invasion, was against the arming of moderate headchoppers in syria. this has caused a lot of tension between the secret service who was delivering arms and the turkish army who was trying to stop it.
So similar to the report from Seymour Hersh that the American military didn't want to help and avoided it as much as possible, but at the end of the day, they had to do it.
>filthy warmongering american scum and your dogs are ruining this country
Your country is ruining itself. Or more like Erdogan has been ruining it in the past several years.
>if you think that the syrian government would allow turkey to enter syria you are a braindead retard
But thats how it works, if the Syrian government doesn't let Turkey do it, then they don't have the authority to do it. Specially when Turkeys intentions were clearly different to what they claimed. If Turkey was really serious about the refugee issue those would be the right steps, of course it will never work because thats not their objective.
At the end of the day it comes to this:
>America wants to create a problem
>Turkey agrees and creates the problem with American/Saudi/Qatar/etc help
>Turkey doesn't want to deal with the consequences
>Turkey keeps increasing the problem
>>71034533
End of 2016/Start of 2017 if arms to moderate memers stop completely.
Late 2017, maybe 2018 if not.
>>71034540
Just various bombings in North Aleppo, last i checked the hoholmap.
>>71032817
Didn't Don Roach die in a bombing?
>>71033416
This is probably the most popular blog about conflicts in Syria and Ukraine. You did not miss. I recommend imp-navigator and bmpd blogs too, but their authors write not only about Syria.
>5 days without /sg/
I hate being a normie again. What did i miss? Any new memes?
>>71035174
>5 days without /sg/
How do you even manage to do that
I dont frequent 4chan at all but cant last a day without checking /sg/
>>71035174
>>71035278
This
Even If I don't post, I lurk at least once per day
>>71029274
Has the Aleppo assault began yet?
The lack of happening makes me think it hasn't.
When is it going to happen?
>>71035174
Normie pls go
>>71035278
New job, new house no Internet no time. Shitty week
>>71035174
You need to bookmark /sg/ my friend
>>71035588
That makes sense then
Good luck with all that, m8
>>71029542
Honestly the /pol/ meme where Russia is some conservative Christian haven needs to end
I have actually been to Moscow and seen just as much libshit there as anywhere else
>>71035588
Sad
Although nice double dubs
>>71033564
>American caused all this mess.
Yeah, Saudis, Qataris, Turks, etc are all innocents.
>Not everyone who asks for help needs actual help.
I'll agree with you in this point.
>And its retarded that by now you still dont understand how Turkey feels about ypg and why dont want them there.
That was not the point, the point is that they don't always listen to their American masters, only when they believe its a good idea, so saying they are innocents following orders is stupid. And yes I agree they are not the only ones to blame, but they are playing a huge part on the problem.
>>71034801
>America wants to create a problem
And created it. Likes the hundreds of others you have done.
>Turkey agrees and creates the problem with American/Saudi/Qatar/etc help
It would have been created with or without Turkey.
>Turkey doesn't want to deal with the consequences
What do you mean with this? Im pretty sure they are, since the millions of refugees are still in Turkey, which costs money. In what world are they not dealing with the consequences? There are literal bombings frequently which fuck up tourism and such. Turkey is the country who has been hit the hardest with the consequenses.
The thing is, do you see Turks crying about it? Barely. Turkey deserves it. Just like how you deserved 9/11, or france deserved their shooting, or belgium theirs, and on. 3+ million refugees in turkey for years, costs billion, did you hear any shit about that in the news? nope, a couple hundred thousand refugees in the EU which is 30 times as rich, and the world is falling appart, hundreds of articles everyday top kek, millions of deaths caused by americas foreign policy, nobody cares, a couple deaths in 9/11 and the whole world is supposed to be burning, top kek
>Turkey keeps increasing the problem
Yeah this is true, and? At the end of the day those couple refugees you cry about mean nothing. If you care so much go and your leaders to make more refugees from Turkey so there is more place. Go ask the EU to actually enforce their borders so Turkey has no choice to keep them in their land. The problem is only increasing in your pov, in the pov of the Turkish government they are trying to fix the problem
Reminder that Turkey could have not taken 1 refugee and still be in its right.
>>71030201
Engin Explosif Improvisé (EEI) or Engin Explosifs de Circonstance (EEC)
>>71030629
Most Syrians are Sunni???!?!
This is /sg/, we actually suppor the Syrian Arab Army, not despise Islam, take that shit to the rest of /pol/
>>71035774
>That was not the point, the point is that they don't always listen to their American masters, only when they believe its a good idea, so saying they are innocents following orders is stupid.
I agree with you on this, some Turks sure love to act like everything is an american conspiracy and they dindu nuffin.
>>71035891
I think he's saying that because in most other cases (in western countries) after immigration most of the crime has been done by Sunni, but he's forgetting that the country where they're coming from should also be noted
They come from Pakistan, Somalia, etc so of course they'll be committing crimes, regardless of whether they're sunni or shia
>>71034675
this speech remind me butthurt of govdep when we want to sell S-300 in Iran
>>71036429
Did iran actually get s300s by now or are they still waiting?
>>71036153
I'm pro Assad Syrian as much as someone can be, but I don't understand how people here claim to be pro-SAA and pro-Assad, but say shit against Sunnis, because Syria is actually mostly Sunni, and most of the Syrian government, and Syrian Arab Army, is Sunni
I fear people here think the civil war is about Sunni vs Shia, but it isn't.
And Assad wasn't politically Alawite or Shia, Syria is actually secular, so the little religious influence there is in government, is actually still Sunni. Assad even made a law that no Alawites can do anything that would harm the Sunnis
Also you are right, a lot of immigrants from Iraq and Iran also do bad shit in Europe, and they are Shia
Most of the "rapefugees" are Iraqi or Somali (Somalis are mostly Sunni, Iraqis are Shia).
>>71035891
>We like a specific group of Muslims for various reasons therefore we like all of them
>>71035741
> Moscow ≠ Russia
> old russian proverb lol
>>71036540
Yes. Iran get first part of S-300 4 days ago
>>71036614
Dont worry most people here know these things.
>>71036677
Thats not what he said. There is a sizable population of non-cancerous Sunni Syrians. They dont need to be generalized along the lines of Wahhabi Gulf fuckstains.
>>71036677
better yet
>How can you hate all of them when you like a specific group
>>71035783
The answer to all this is simple:
Nobody in Europe gives half a tug of a dead dog's cock about Turkey. As far as Europe is interested, Turkey can turn into glass and die off, and nothing will change.
>>71036825
It's pretty easy.
>>71035741
The language barrier is real. You will hear much more vocally about liberals shit in the West, especially the English speaking West, but the liberal shit happening EVERYWHERE
>>71036785
After like 10 years? This is hard to believe, and you telling they get a "part" is kinda sketchy.
>>71036922
not like that attitude is literally the one that actually got you into the problems you have today. Thats literally what im talking about. What is a problem is, and when it actually turns into a problem for someone when he could have prevented that problem before, how one ignores problems and says something is a problem when it suits them
I only wish Turkey would have more of the same attitude Europe has, and send more refugees instead of cucking themselves with the deal etc.
>>71032598
How the fuck can somebody live like that?
>>71036797
Nice I'm glad, I'm sure most people on /sg/ would know the situation of Syria (pipeline, USA vs Russia geopolitics), and not reduce it to Sunnis vs Shia, but rest of /pol/ isn't so sure, and a lot of them don't even know who is coming into Europe, they think they are all Syrians, when a lot of them are actually Africans, Iraqis, Afghanis, Iranians etc
>>71036677
also nice cat
>>71037154
http://en.mehrnews.com/news/115721/First-part-of-S-300-missile-system-delivered-to-Iran
>>71037243
Like what?
>>71035783
>And created it. Likes the hundreds of others you have done.
Yes
>It would have been created with or without Turkey.
Yes but would be minimized, without the supply routes of Turkey they would depend mainly on Jordan, to a lesser extent Lebanon and Iraq or airdrops.
>What do you mean with this?
That Turkey is blackmailing the EU with the deal. Inb4, of course the EU is also to blame for the problem, but they could had made a better deal.
>Im pretty sure they are, since the millions of refugees are still in Turkey, which costs money.
Yes they are, I was not clear enough.
>Turkey is the country who has been hit the hardest with the consequenses.
Next time they should not be involved in proxy wars with their neighbor.
>Just like how you deserved 9/11
>implying I'm even american
>a couple hundred thousand refugees in the EU which is 30 times as rich, and the world is falling appart, hundreds of articles everyday top kek
EU leaders are idiots. Cut the welfare for refugees, give them just basic stuff like in Turkey and problem solved. But they don't really want to fix the issue.
>millions of deaths caused by americas foreign policy, nobody cares, a couple deaths in 9/11 and the whole world is supposed to be burning, top kek
Yes, I agree with this, its fucking disgusting. Americans who don't realize this are idiots.
>If you care so much go and your leaders to make more refugees from Turkey
That is not the main cause of the problem, that are just the consequences. And again, Turkey is not the only one to blame, USA/KSA/Qatar etc should stop their idiotic "Assad must go".
>in the pov of the Turkish government they are trying to fix the problem
Not really, they are just prolonging the inevitable. They want to "fix" the problem in a way it will benefit them, not the syrian people which they claim to be fighting for.
>Reminder that Turkey could have not taken 1 refugee and still be in its right.
International outrage would be terrible, but you are correct.
>>71037528
Being so short that you're not even halfway up most other people. I know a midget IRL and even he's not that small.
Small gains in East Damascus
>>71037602
>That Turkey is blackmailing the EU with the deal.
Blackmailing is a simple form of negotiating. Its not Turkeys fault EU is a mess and is incompetent. Better yet, just cut off the European border and let the people drown. If you ask me Turkey should let trough every single refugee who does not want to stay in Turkey. There is literally no reason for Turkey to force refugees to stay while they can go somewhere else.
>Next time they should not be involved in proxy wars with their neighbor.
Yep.
>Not really, they are just prolonging the inevitable.
Dont underestimate the ideologic government leaders of Turkey.
>>71037433
not gonna read the whole article, just that "first phase" thing is sketchy, however, i dont think they will ever use them anyway, its more of a symbolic thing, i think? whatever
>>71037243
>>71037646
you probably just adapt over time
Any arabic speaker can translate?
>>71037602
If Europe threatened to sanction Turkey, there'd be no illegals crossing Greek and so on borders.
But unfortunately EU is retarded and politically correct, thus disregards the giant spiked club of EU sanctions.
>>71038211
t. poorland
>>71038211
They unfortunately only reserve that spiked club for Russia and other nations that are the enemies of the united states
I've never seen a more pathetic conglomeration of states in the world.
Also can I just mention that the united states are some really vindictive mother fuckers. David Cameron spent the last few years getting closer to China with the Chinese investment bank and not helping in Libya after the war, and now the CIA implicates Cameron and his family in the panama papers. Its crazy
>>71038569
>I've never seen a more pathetic conglomeration of states in the world.
I agree, nobody you speak to in Europe can produce a reason why we should still have these RIDICULOUS sanctions which are costing us millions
I mad.
>panama papers
Oh yeah those papers that magically had no American in them :^)
Pure coincidence Im sure!
>>71030396
Based.
>>71038211
If Europe would do that they would alienate everyone in Turkey, as in also the anti erdogan people. The ones who want the refugees to leave turkey to europe the most are the secular ones, top kek. Even simply threatening something like that means you can see another 1.5 million refugees leaving to Europe. You say they are retarded but come up with an equally retarded """"solution""". Lets just threathen them!!! fucking genius
Just enforce your borders.
>>71039072
And how does alienating people in a country nobody cares about a problem for Europe?
Threatening with even half the sanctions Russia received would cause Erdogan to lick EU's shoes.
>>71039398
You are stupid, you dont know anything about Turks apparently. Very emotional people.
Let me greentext you how your """solution""" will go.
>turkey has been taking care of 3+ million refugees with their own money for 4+ years
>a fraction of that leaves for europe, europe threathens turkey with sanctions if they let more cross the border
>literally asking turkey to put refugees in ww2 jewish yolocaust camps
>turks get emotional, think you can fuck with us like that?
>...
>every single refugee in turkey now is in europe, since there is no reason not too anymore
>turkey has sanctions, but its irrelevant since turkey is emotional, them feeling they won against europe is enough of the shityness that comes after europe closes all economy with turkey, even all the cuck pro secular pro europe people will support erdogan
>erdogan seeing how even their worst enemies will support them in this will be a huge plus
gg, i can see turkey taking more refugees from syria and other countries, sending them to europe just to take the piss, hell, send some more kurds too from the south east, they are in need of a long vacation!
how you still cannot see how retarded you are... top kek
>>71039817
And the sanctions get heavier, and Turkey implodes. While Europe just sends the refugees the fuck back.
Nobody cares how "emotional" turks are.
>>71040093
this is cringe tier, i salute your for even coming off more incompetent thn the current EU
>>71038050
>Better yet, just cut off the European border and let the people drown.
Agree, this would be even better. However remember that EU let all the refugees get through after they saw that picture of the drowned kid, even though that would cause more people drowned. That's retarded, they use sentimentalism to win votes and most people are too stupid to see it.
>>71029274
I'd like to share with you a message I just received on another website:
>You need to wake up. You all do. ISIS is bullshit. do you not understand that neither the US, no Russia, did anything substantial to destroy ISIS. you do understand that for what, almost 2 years, we have been bombing empty buildings and abandoned machine gun nests. You don't get this fake war on terror bullshit by now? you really don't understand that ISIS served US purposes by being a hazard the Assad, a thorn in Iran's side, a supposed spur, a point of pressure on the Iraqis shiites to include Sunni's in govt? Do you really think the Russians, since Sept, couldn't have done more against ISIS in 7 months? You really don't know they've focused their attacks on the US backed militias?You don't get this war, this terror threat, was meant to go on forever? You don't see who it enables, and how? Who within our govt benefits? are you that Naive? The only threat ISIS is, is the threat we desire it to be. Sol himself makes the point a hundred times, do you seriously think we cant take out 30,000 guys in the open desert?
I think either your memory, or knowledge of recent history is shit if you think ISIS is the real problem, the greatest threat. It's a straw bogeyman, nothing more. Hezbollah is 10 times the threat ISIS ever was. Do you know how far inside Lebanon the Israelis got before they lost their first Merkave the last time they invaded southern Lebanon to stop the bombings? 30 yards. 30 yards dude. they lost 40 tanks in a couple of weeks, and never advanced farther the 6 klicks into Lebanon. I was talking to Israeli tankers 90 minutes after they were back from action and got AARs live. Do you think ISIS could stand up to the Israeli Army?
>too be continued
>>71040521
>I think either your memory, or knowledge of recent history is shit if you think ISIS is the real problem, the greatest threat. It's a straw bogeyman, nothing more. Hezbollah is 10 times the threat ISIS ever was. Do you know how far inside Lebanon the Israelis got before they lost their first Merkave the last time they invaded southern Lebanon to stop the bombings? 30 yards. 30 yards dude. they lost 40 tanks in a couple of weeks, and never advanced farther the 6 klicks into Lebanon. I was talking to Israeli tankers 90 minutes after they were back from action and got AARs live. Do you think ISIS could stand up to the Israeli Army?
seriously? You think Assad is a friend? there has been nothing but chaos, and attacks agaisnt ourselves and our allies for years. who do you think was supplying the resistance to the US occupation in Iraq? Most of those guys, and that shit came in from Syria, not Iran. You think you can trust the russians? have you all turned into such fucking Vaginas you think we really need the fucking RUSSIANS to save our asses and enforce a peace? You sound like a whimpering Neville Chamberlain. Just fucking stop . or wake up, or something. Find your balls, all of you.Or at least get your head out of your ass. It's one thing to get played, it's another thing to let yourself get strung along for years and never catch on. you don't get that the rules of engagement are constructed so that there is no end to ISIS? You don't think that could be changed if they so desired? You don't get that the US desires a reason to keep forces in the region to counter other influences as our sphere of influence wanes? You don't get the Russians are overjoyed to have a fucking. Excuse to set up an air defense network that covers Israels home naval anchorage and half the nation? Wake the fuck up dude. seriously.
>too be continued
>>71040594
>If either us or the Russians actually wanted ISIS GONE, they'd be a memory and nothing more in less than 6 weeks.And neither needs the other to do it. There are other far more serious non state actors who can have and have had far greater long term effect on the region and it's future course than ISIS. All they did was move into a vacuum, and when the powers that be want the region settled, they will be vacuumed up. Islamic fundamentalism is a real problem. ISIS is not. they are left to run Amok because they aren't killing anyone who anyone that counts gives a shit about. In case you haven't noticed, Europe had very specific plans for those refugees they allowed to be created. They were just shitty plans. They will, however, allow all the European nations to grant the executive branch powers to turn all those nations into police states when they see fit, they need a few more terror incidents to institute their own versions of the patriot act.
>too be continued
>>71040645
>If you think the Russians are the good guys, and are ever going to do anything but take the biggest piece of pie when they sit at table, then you don't understand why they weren't invited in the first place. You are either too young to remember, were a lousy student of history, or have a shitty memory, like I said.
Thoughts?
>>71040496
Nope. Closing down the borders and threatening Turkey with sanctions would solve the refugee crisis nigh instantly. Turkey cannot afford heavy economic sanctions.
ISIS fighters reportedly captured 7 villages from regime forces in Khanasir.
>>71040676
Whats your point though?
>>71040706
>Turkey gets sanctioned by Russia and EU
>mfw
>>71040676
Sounds like that dude never learned the definition of asymmetric warfare.
>>71040706
>Closing down the borders and threatening Turkey with sanctions would solve the refugee crisis nigh instantly.
Closing the border alone will do this. Which is is not what you said first.
>Turkey cannot afford heavy economic sanctions.
No it cant, does it mean they wont take the bet you gave them? Nope, they will. And the whole country would support it. I can already see Erdogans smug face on tv saying they agree with Europes proposal of taking sanctions for sending refugees to Europe. And everyone in the country will support him.
>>71041000
And thus Turkey starves, EU borders are once again secure, everyone is happy.
Perfect solution, really.
>>71035891
Yeah that level of bluepillery is a new thing, showed up in the second half of 2014. The website changed so much. It's funny because a few years ago if ANYONE said anything pro-Israel on /pol/ they'd be spammed and called JIDF, these days literal dumb ziochristian goyim post unironically and are taken seriously. It's a joke.
What ISIS claims to have captured. If true then SAA just got BTFO.
>>71041055
Turkey is the one who exports food lol, food would become cheap as hell while other stuff would become expensive.
And eu borders are not secure, since you will have 4 million refugees and a hostile Turkey at your border. Oh wait, now its sanctions + secure border, something that was not your first proposal, k.
>>71029274
>tfw you will never wear a nice suit and fire an AK one handed while holding a cigarette in the other
why live /pol/?
>>71040676
1. Israel is a liability at this point when it comes to US foreign policy
2. Russians trying to create a tarpit for US forces in Syria is exactly why Obongo isn't investing more shit there. If they do it'll end up like another Afghanistan or Iraq, which USA cannot afford while trying to keep China in check
3. Hezbollah isn't trying to create a caliphate nor doesn't it have any expansionist ideas. They just banter with Israel and keep Lebanon, that's basically it.
4. To remove ISIS Russians would have to not only bomb shit, but also send troops there. Which they can't really do for both economic and political reasons. That's why they rely on SAA when it comes to bashing sandnigger scum there.
5. US has vital interest in either neutering Iran's influence or flipping it to it's side, while Russia wants the exact opposite. Which is why Russia is more likely to cleanse Syria than USA is at this point.
Other than that yeah, mostly right.
>>71040849
Finns are adorable.
>>71041215
No, half the food companies would go bankrupt because turkey doesn't have enough local consumption to make it work. That means thousands of people disenfranchised.
Thus EU doesn't have to give half a shit about Turkey being "hostile" as Turkey will have to deal with interior issues first before they can even try saber rattling. Refugees can be turned and sent back, as in this case it's EU who holds the stick, not other way round. That they don't want to use the stick is a different story.
In other words, it'd never happen as even a glimpse of EU sanctions would cause Turkey's borders to magically seal up.
>>71041162
it's not the first time they do that, all the other times the SAA repeled the attack or recaptured the town
>>71041363
Why not? You live in America you can just go buy that stuff faggot.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5nigZzgf4Y
>>71041916
the end got me
>>71040521
>Hezbollah is a threat
>because of how they defended their OWN COUNTRY
What the fuck is this SHIT??
>who do you think was supplying the resistance to the US occupation in Iraq
So?? Maybe US shouldnt have been there in the first place??
Getting a heavy Smartass-vibe here from whoever posted that America-centered bullshit
>>71041363
I know that feel ._.
>>71040645
>They will, however, allow all the European nations to grant the executive branch powers to turn all those nations into police states when they see fit, they need a few more terror incidents to institute their own versions of the patriot act.
HOLY SHIT
Is 1984 coming to fucking life? Endless war, increased government surveillance?
>>71042405
Of course
>>71041916
i wish i could shoot a christian now
>>71041363
you can buy all those things legally where you live. whats the problem.
>>71041607
first you are retarded, now you are like, extra retarded, first you just want to threathen turkey, after that also secure the border which changes the conversation, when you secure your borders everything is already fixed, but for some genius reason you also want to threathen turkey, for some really big genius reason i cant see, you have like 70 iq, some retard kid who keeps repeating the same thing "haha we have a stick, haha nobody cares about turkey haha, haha i can read the future and turkey will do this" untill push comes to shove and boom you shoot a bullet trough your head like hitler did after you see how retarded you were
apparently europe doesnt have to give half a shit about a country that is their buffer zone against the middle east, i dont know what im fucking reading anymore
deal with interior issues? it would literally be much easier to deal with interior issues if turkey wouldnt have to care about the eu crying anymore
http://atlas.media.mit.edu/en/profile/country/tur/
sanctioning turkey would also have positive effecs like we have seen in russia, it would force to stop importing billions of european technology that can also be perfectly made in turkey but its simply cheaper to import and on, turkey imports alot more thn it exports, a grand 80 billion, and guess what most of what they import is from europe, so cry about losing billion on russia, its about to get worse
10/10, enough internet for me today, time to play some dark souls 3
>>71041916
Okay the last one was okay. But the rest? And here people say we Germans don't have humour
>>71042963
And how is it any different than your "T-turkey w-would be f-fine!" bullshit?
Face it, the only way to have Turkey actually enforce their borders and take care of the problem for Europe is heavy sanctions.
You're absolutely 100% retarded if you think you can compare Turkey's interior market to Russia's, too.
Pray tell how Turkey would deal with people unhappy about loss of jobs the sanctions would inevitably bring? Kill them all? Then Turkey becomes a prime target for UN/NATO intervention.
It's like you're an ape who saw civilisation for a day and now thinks it knows how everything works.
Turkey with EU sanctions would be dead in the water, and even the retarded chimp they elected knows that. Hence he'd bend the knee.
>>71041916
>Just shoot me
>>71043018
you don't get it because you are a german
God I hate this fucking gay world
>OIC condemns Iran of supporting "terrorist groups"
>after four fucking decades of throwing ourselves in the middle of kike-arab pissing matches, shouting death to this and that and extending a hand of friendship towards the Sunnis after they've slapped it back and spat on it time after time, after we tried so hard to be accepted as "fellow Muslims", they go right ahead and sell themselves to Saudi money.
>meanwhile, Merkel says she will allow comedian to be persecuted for making fun of Erdogan
Yes, this is the result of 40 years of appeasement, of being silent when the Shia are butchered, of calling people who have been killing and raping us for 14 centuries "our brothers", for extending a hand of friendship towards those who slap it back and spit on it over and over again.
Muslim nations should be ashamed today for their leaders have proven to be the cheapest of whores.
>>71043231
>And how is it any different than your "T-turkey w-would be f-fine!" bullshit?
Never said it. I literally said 2-3 times by now it wont.
>Face it, the only way to have Turkey actually enforce their borders and take care of the problem for Europe is heavy sanctions.
Why dont you actually try to be smart? Put in measures to enforce your border and help Turkey with maintaining refugees.
>You're absolutely 100% retarded if you think you can compare Turkey's interior market to Russia's, too.
I understood you wrong, i tought you meant interior problems as in kurdish problems and on.
>Pray tell how Turkey would deal with people unhappy about loss of jobs the sanctions would inevitably bring?
So how is Russia been dealing with it? Everything is getting expensive and and they become poorer over time. Do you even know what nationalism is, the one you think you know so much about?
>Kill them all? Then Turkey becomes a prime target for UN/NATO intervention.
And what are you going to do with al the refugees in Europe?
How are you going to send them back? Kill them all?
>It's like you're an ape who saw civilisation for a day and now thinks it knows how everything works.
Nope, thats you. Sorry mate.
>Turkey with EU sanctions would be dead in the water,
It wont buddy. I think you have some inferiority complex, you probably also think Poland would be dead as fuck without the EU or something.
>and even the retarded chimp they elected knows that. Hence he'd bend the knee.
There is one good think you can say about erdogan and one of the reasons why people like him, and thats how he made europe its bitch, he will never bend for the EU. You dont get it at all.
Just stop dude, you are embarrassing.
>>71043675
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>>71043675
Tough deal indeed.
What "terrorist groups" are they referring to??
>>71043675
>Merkel says she will allow comedian to be persecuted for making fun of Erdogan
The fact that is even her choice to make is ridiculous. There shouldn't be ANY legal framework for prosecuting comedians.
>>71040676
Stabilization of Syria is possible and realistic. If US sanctioned the Saudis instead of Russia we'd halt the spread wahhabism in few years.
What this guy doesn't get is that Putin can't stop IS and AQ alone without nuking entire Middle East. Even ground invasion won't do shit as long as the headchopper factions are being funded and wahhabism is being taught in mosques worldwide.
What little can be done by us to undermine globalist plans we're already doing by just spreading the right redpill.
I don't get what is that guy's point. Put on tinfoil helmets and shill against everyone? Why?
