Guys, no memes.
I am debating with my professor about the holohoax. I need sources that are not 'racist'.
>>70951606
It happened. Get over it.
The Holocaust happened, and it was terrible.
>>70951606
>Falling for the holohoax meme
I bet you think the Earth is flat too
>>70951606
Isn't the burden of proof on him, not you?
Ask him if there's photographic evidence for anyone being gassed. I mean millions died that way, there must be something, right?
The Holocaust happened, but its scale and ramifications have been massively overblown. Try reading "The Holocaust Industry", a very good book on the subject.
>>70952324
Why would they make photo of it ?
>>70952516
It was an enormous industrial killing project, or so it's said. Why aren't there any pictures of a gas chamber?
>>70951606
'Here is the one single thing you need:
Our western tradition is about questioning everything. Nothing is above scruitanly.
AS LONG AS people are arrested and imprisoned for studying this topic and coming to the "wrong" conclusion, this subject is OBJECTIVELY up for grabs in the halls of academia. There is literally no other honest way to do this.
There has LITERALLY NEVER BEEN A LAW needed to defend the truth. Laws are needed to defend dogma (the holocaust).
The holocaust are articles of faith, and neither argument reaches closure as long as researchers are prohibited from doing their jobs.
Anything else is asserting dogma outside of the western tradition.
Repeat this. You will be cleansed in righteousness.
>>70952324
Why do you stormfags deny the holocaust?
You're as bad as Mudslimes
>>70952516
>Why would they make photo of it ?
Why wouldn't they? It's not like Germans are crazy efficient or something . . . is it?
How do you deny pictures of bones stacked to the fucking ceiling. You can't be that retarded can you?
>>70951606
Summer 39' till 1945.
Let's round that up to six years.
6 milion jews in 6 years.
6*365 = 2190 + 1(44' was a leap day year).
2191 days.
2191*24 = 52584 hours.
52560 * 60 = 3155040 minutes.
3153600*60 = 189302400 seconds.
6,000,00/189302400 ~= 0.03169
0.03169 Jews per second, for six years.
Or 0.03169*60 = 1.9
1,9 Jews per minute for 6 years.
Considering they used shitty methods for the first few years, and used camps in the later years, the numbers seem to be exaggerated.
114 jews per hour every day?
2738 jews every day?
>>70952820
That shows a fucking ton of people died. But you realize it could've been disease, they could've been Germans, etc right?
>>70952667
pretty good, desu.
Truth never needed defense of law, said your thomas jefferson.
>>70952072
The holocaust happened and it was great
>>70952924
Pretty shitty gas chamber, unless we're talking about super efficient and scientific people. I mean, it's not like Germans are known for being efficient, amirite??
>>70951606
Jews were rounded up sure, some died, but gas and ovens are doubtful.
>>70952883
Answer my question, tard.
Is your name Ahmed by any chance?
>>70952924
The "Auschwitz" building isn't original. The Russians demolished then rebuilt it.
>>70953154
>people died in WW2
OH THOSE POOOOOOOR JEWS!!! Their lives are worth so much more than our goyim lives!
>>70953121
And how should gas chamber look, burger ?
The Rudolf Report is pretty good read if you ask me.
>>70953231
I know, and thats why there are retards who thinks that holocaust wasnt real.
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>>70953163
>They fell for the Holocaust is real meme
>>70953072
>Weeee wooo weeee wooo
>>70953255
>And how should gas chamber look, burger ?
If they're homicidal gas chambers, they could star by being air-tight.
Pro-tip: air-tight chambers don't have wooden doors with screens on them, like the auchwitz chambers.
Also, do you have any retort to the FACT that the allies never found death camps? How is it that only the soviets found death camps?
>inb4 allied antisemitism
Reminder that Jews are going to do to the US what they did to Germany.
>>70952874
>2738 jews every day?
that's pretty good.
but I wish that they did a better job, even if that would be very hard
>>70953251
You know that, at holocaust ceremonies, at least at schools...
They never bring up other victims! only the '6' million!
That got me annoyed every fucking boring ceremony
>>70953385
Auschwitz was totally real. It had a swimming pool for the inmates and everything. I mean, don't all death camps?
>>70951606
>I am debating with my professor about the holohoax.
you done fucked up lil nigga
>>70953499
> holocaust ceremonies
Tell me about your holocaust ceremonies Jew.
Do you mean Yad Vashem or is this some kind of daily ritual for you people?
>>70953163
Typical shill response. You're full of shit.
>>70953499
I am the only one left of my family lineage because four were killed in WW2 in Europe.
Just to piss off jews, I had 4 kids.
>>70952979
RARE DESU
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>>70952820
>/pol/ defending the holohoax
what a sad state of affairs
I hate 2016
>>70951606
whatever you say, check nizkor.org before you make an argument
90% of the stuff i see here was discredited long ago
>>70953438 read >>70953231
It doesnt really need to be air-tight because Zyklon B is solid
>>70951606
It happend pal, let it go
>>70953628
They take highschools to Yad Vashem.
I'm talking about what they did at school.
Like I'm sure they have some kind of thing in 9/11 in America?
There is a school ceremony, everyone has to wear white shirt, and some kids are holding the ceremony:
Reading some survivor story,
talking a lot about the holocaust,
saying how many died at which camps
National Anthem
Repeat
Boring af
That's it basically
>>70953748
Nope. It's a solid impregnated with a very volatile liquid (hydrocyanic acid). Any exposure to that stuff, you dead nigga.
>>70953687
we trolled people by doing neo-nazi shit for years
then it attracted actual neo-nazis
your fault for fundamentally not understanding what 4chan is
>>70952979
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>>70953919
>"we're not actually racist, it's just a joke!"
Fuck off shill.
>>70952979
Aren't you people all in jail for pedophilia?
>>70953826
How many shekels is merkel tossing you for that comment?
Is it a coincidence that the word JEWelry is spelled like that?
>>70953847
Gotta maintain that victimhood complex so you can go out and kill Palestinian kids, after all.
I think denying the holocaust is moral even if it happened, because the holocaust is only used to justify evil wars.
>>70953748
>Zyklon B is solid
K. It's also REALLY INEFFICIENT for killing people. It's super efficient for killing lice, however.
I mean, it's not like Germans are known for their efficiency, is it?
Here's the thing--the losers in genocide don't get to talk. They don't make endless movies, they don't populate a whole 'nother country, and they don't inhabit chinese basket-weaving forums to insist that their deaths happened.
The game is up, jews. Holocaust as stated didn't happened. Lots of ppl died in ww2, you're nothing special, and going forward you're just another voice in the cacophony of competing ethnic interests that make up the U.S. Above all, that is your doing. Enjoy being the instrument of your own parasitic demise.
>>70954058
3 without tax
>>70953748
>Zyklon B is solid
Nigga what? Zyklon B is a cyanide based insecticide gas that was shipped as pellets that had to be heated to release the gas. They did not throw Jews down a slide into a room full of poison pellets like some kind of genocidal ball pit.
>>70953847
>Like I'm sure they have some kind of thing in 9/11 in America?
Not 70 yrs later, Hellenebro.
>>70954193
>he doesn't know about the holocoaster
>>70953996
You shtick is unamusing to me
>>70951606
holy shit op how did you approach him with the topic? i can only imagine how awkward it must have been in the classroom when you raised your hand and made your claim while the whole class snickered and laughed.
>>70954146
Best Irony.
Did you see that video of a soldier shooting the terrorist who looked already beaten and not moving on the floor?
>>70954222
You have ceremonies in schools for somethnig, don't you?
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>>70954151
Get your facts right people.
Zyklon-B is a solid (clay or paper, depending on the manufacture) which gives off an extremely poisonous gas (HCN).
It kills people a lot more easily than it kills insects.
>>70953640
Okay Ahmed
>>70954421
>terrorist
Why don't you just get on with it and gas all the Palestinians? The world will probably forgive you in 80 years, you've got nukes so nobody will dare stop you, and you'll have your Judenreich forever.
>>70953919
Typical shill post
>>70954421
>You have ceremonies in schools for somethnig, don't you?
Not sure, kids are too young.
I would say, "no." Maybe something for "muh patriot day." 70 years from now? No, ridiculous, and it'd never be an excuse to murder people like the holocaust is for jews to clear out their racial living space.
>>70954483
He's right though.
>>70954146
Think that answers my question about whether or not you're a Mudslime.
>>70953422
kek
This is how I recognized a tritone.
>>70951606
lol... Sources that are not from any neo nazi source? That's pretty optimistic.
>>70952874
Are you fucking retarded?
They were able to kill 2 Jews per minute because they had a lot of camps.
>>70951606
All you can really do is point to its hyperbole and use as propaganda that you (may or may not) feel is being used for ulterior motives.
> The figures (6mil)
> The fact that jews were agents of either Capitalism or Bolshevism and militant about it.
> The fact that it is still used to extract money and allegiance from those who were either fighting for them or not involved.
>>70954559
I guess that it would bring obvious consequences.
There will be no real solution. Either one's out, or the other, or it stays as it is.
>>70954598
Well, we also have memorial day for all the soldiers who died, luckily I finished highschool so I don't need to hear that boring shit again
It happened, but the gas chamber thing was overblown.
Basically it wasn't as 'systematic' as we are led to believe.
It was executions in the field… same shit happened to other ethnic groups, but we only care about jews because they make a movie about it every 2 weeks
>>70951606
Dont do it. You'll get yourself in trouble
>>70952874
delete this
>>70954428
Was about to post that.
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>>70954193
Why od every stupid conspiracy comes from burgerland ?
They make money out of it, and so fucking what ? I would do same.
You can literally go and speak with someone who survived, I did, and everything he said was accurate.
>>70954428
>It kills people a lot more easily than it kills insects.
No aerosoled intoxicant would be that way. It's not how "air" works, dipshit.
Any nervo-intoxicant that works on a large creature would work on a smaller creature sooner in a dosage cycle.
But please, keep lying to us about the holocaust. It's just funny at this point.
ZB is the type of poison you would use to fumigate luggage, (or people if you dgaf about them) in 1942. It's what they used a generation earlier at Ellis Island.
Are you going to say that America was holocausting jews at ellis island? Shit, don't answer that, taxes already high without paying extra reparations.
>>70954428
That was exactly what I said. HCN is hydrogen cyanide which in Zyklon B was created by heating the agent in the pellets with water.
>>70951606
Firstly: The official total death toll is around 3.3 million now. That's using the upper end of the new per-camp estimates for the "death camps", and it includes everyone, not just the Jews.
Aushwitz: 1 100 000
Treblinka: 900 000
Belzec: 600 000
Chelmo: 340 000
Sobibor: 250 000
Majdanek: 78 000
= 3 268 000
(Figures are from Wikipedia, so if they're biased, then it's in favour of the official story.)
>>70954650
How's he right?
>>70954970
>Why od every stupid conspiracy comes from burgerland ?
How does telling you that you're retarded for not even understanding the basic mechanics of the event amount to a conspiracy? What you said was inaccurate and all I did was point that out.
>>70954573
They always aim to define "what 4chan is"
There is information and opinion
Thats it.
> It just happens to focus on social criticism and the most obvious thing is modern liberal/lefty bullshit.
>>70954803
They used the camps in the late years, not in the whole 6 I used the math in.
It just seems a bit, suspicious, that's all.
>>70951606
how about a source saying that it happened but isnt jewish?
>>70954983
> arguing with me by trying to make up words
Sorry Tyrone, your education needs a lot of work. D-.
>>70954999
No water required. The HCN was just adsorbed on the pellet. With room temperature heat it vaporizes quickly
>>70954970
>You can literally go and speak with someone who survived
Name? There are only a few survivors who talk about it, and they're all well-recorded.
Was it Bomba? He's the most blabby kike who will talk about ww2, Pro-tip: he's pretty far out there about german moon-holocaust technology.
>>70951606
Ask why Jews always seem to be the remembered fallen in WWII, yet millions of Chinese and Eastern bloc civilians aren't.
>>70954913
It's easy math everyone can do, why do you even care?
>>70955087
Accusing people of being muslims is what shills do. You know it's not actually true, you just do it for shilling purposes.
>>70954983
Yes because animals are all the same and aren't immune to certain toxins and poisons that can kill other species yes yes very good sir yes
I've got him against the wall! He is resorting to 'muh eyewitnesses'.
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>>70954103
>my anime imageboard is the last bastion of white supremacy! deus vult hail hitler!
>>70955336
Chemical engineer masters (with thesis program) from FIT, 2008.
Consult for FWP and NOAA, 2008-present.
Come at me, faggot.
>>70955506
> Chemical engineer masters
You should ask for your money back.
Or at least look up how cyanide poisoning works before you embarrass yourself further.
>>70955369
No, it's not. It's something a rational neutral person without an agenda would recognise: that stormfags quite ironically share a lot in common with Mudslimes.
He didn't have an answer to that, so it's fair to assume the cognitive dissonance made his head explode or he's an actual shilling Mudslime.
>>70955273
well, the term "holocaust" isn´t limited to camp kills but the jewish persecution overall. Thinking that the operation Barbarossa took all around 3.8 million soldiers plus the combat engagment rule of "kill whatever you want in the east ´casue they´re either bolsheviks or jews" it is kinda realistic.
>>70953459
>are going to do
are doing*
Democrats are gonna win in 2016 and we will all succumb to the NWO
>>70955499
>my anime board is just epin trollololololing! XD fucken pwned n00bz
>>70955625
Disliking Jews is something about all non-Jews have in common, though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dda-0Q_XUhk
>>70955635
You can fuck off Jude. Unser Uglueck indeed!
Soon you go away.
>>70955635
Kinda.
But with the wikipedia deaths I just checked summing up to 3.5 mil, I feel a bit cheated that I was taught 6 million died in history class
>you will never wash your genitals and ass with a bar of jew soap
Why even live?
>>70955336
>No water required. The HCN was just adsorbed on the pellet. With room temperature heat it vaporizes quickly
Unfortunately the Wikipedia entry links to a book but if you really care to find it the page number is there.
>Chemists at Degesch added a cautionary eye irritant to a less volatile cyanide compound which reacted with water in the presence of heat to become hydrogen cyanide. The new product was marketed as the pesticide Zyklon (cyclone).
>>70953919
Fuck your mother.
>>70955427
First of all, insects / humans have very different intoxicant profiles.
It has a lot to do w/ the fact that most insects don't have cell reproduction like we do (hence the whole cockroach/nuclear war thing).
Pls stop trying to use this as a method of jewing your way out of guilt--everyone is on to you.
>>70955895
>Why even live?
To see the real holocaust...Israel baptised by flammen.
>>70955998
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zyklon_B
> It consisted of hydrogen cyanide (prussic acid), a cautionary eye irritant, and one of several adsorbents such as diatomaceous earth.
I don't think this is a very substantive argument, but that is just how Z-B worked.
>>70955621
Oh, so it's cyanide now... see pic
>>70955830
3.5? link it? I learned 5.8 mil so I didn´t care much about the 200k "more".
Just out of personal interest: You a jewish Israeli or an atheist, christian etc.? Kinda odd doubting the holocaust in such manner from an israeli
>>70955816
Yeah, I know. Soon you get me by the balls. So Jack, how´s deployment?
>>70956149
We've always been talking about Zyklon B. The active ingredient of which was hydrogen cyanide.
Do you really work for NOAA? I'm starting to doubt climate change is real now if this is the caliber of their people.
>>70951606
Bring up the fact that every death camp was found by the Soviets and not the Americans/allies
>>70955830
>I feel a bit cheated that I was taught 6 million died in history class
How do you think us oldoldfags feel? We were sworn to believe that there was soap and lampshades, and even shrunken heads!
>>70951606
how long is this debate going to take? You posted this exact same shit last week.
>>70955813
Reminder that we all are jews.
https://youtu.be/styLx-iWwC8?t=1h14m41s
>>70951606
If it didn't happen, why support hitler
>>70953919
>we trolled people
>we
kek
>Report of Polish Government in Exile about mass extermination of Jews in Poland, 1942
http://www.msz.gov.pl/en/ministry/polish_diplomacy_archive/collections_online/publication_of_the_ministry_of_foreign_affairs_of_1942__on_the_extermination_of_jews_in_occupied_poland
https://www.msz.gov.pl/resource/e7497fea-f446-4f82-80b1-169d609d697a:JCR
>Report of Auschwitz prisoner, 1943
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Witold's_Report
http://witoldsreport.blogspot.com/2008/05/volunteer-for-auschwitz-report-by.html
>>70951606
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rhGMCYWqKI
>>70951606
Secondly, there is very little physical evidence for the gas chambers' existence.
Here is one of the gas chambers at Auschwitz. The other is intact but I find it strange that the Nazi's would do such a good job of destroying one, but leave the other without a scratch.
>>70956177
See >>70955086. You can confirm the numbers by checking each camp's page.
Religious populations of the world in 1933.
>>70956256
No, Zb and Hc are two different things, brought on by changes acted upon each agent.
Not only have you failed to account for this change, but you haven't shown your work w/r/t screen doors in the supposed death chambers.
Anon--the holocaust doesn't hold up to scrutiny. Let it go, and consider the ramifications. Is it really so hard to believe that you've been lied to by people who are--objectively speaking--history's hucksters?
>>70956537
Populations in 1945. Notice that there is no sharp decline that one would expect after muh 6 bubillion. I know it is 12 years later but there should still be a decline of at least one or two million.
People died in the camps in WW2, but it was from typhus, dysentery, and starvation that occurred when the allies bombed all of the German supply routes.
>>70956488
Here is a shot from the intact building at Auschwitz. I don't know about Jews and Soviets but my finger nails sure as shit can't make gouges in concrete.
>>70956256
Why the fuck are you believing in these paid shills and ignorant fuckwads?
>>70955427
Fuck off nigger.
The holohoax is probably the biggest scam ever.
You cant even discuss it without fags popping out and calling you a nazi abstard, denying any kind of fact and going into a Tantrum
>Muh gas chambers
Zyklon b was to keep the Lice away from the prisoners, they shaved them too.
>MUH PILES OF CORPSES
All those faggots died because of typhus.
>MUH STARVING CHILDREN
Why the fuck feed your prisoners when your army needs food first? Blame the allies for destroying the supply lines.
AND DONT FORGET THAT HITLER DEFIED THE BANK AND LOST, THE SAME HAPPENED TO GADDAFI.
>>70956712
I'm open minded about the Holocaust, but you'll just make yourself look silly if you deny basic chemistry.
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>>70956177
>You a jewish Israeli or an atheist, christian etc.? Kinda odd doubting the holocaust in such manner from an israeli
Israeli, Jewish, and an Atheist.
Well, I saw a post on /pol a few days ago about the same math I did, I was curious and tried it myself.
Got me a bit annoyed (since I learned that in school and fully believed it) and I researched more. There are a lot of camps, but they don't look that big.
Also, based on what I learned (If they not lied about that)
The killing methods at first were not so fast, the shootings into mass graves, then gas trucks, meanwhile some ghettos dying out of hunger.
The camps with gas came a bit later. So the 2700 something number seems a bit... fishy.
Some of the older generations in my family died in the holocaust.
I still tried to be open minded and looked at it from a more objective perspective.
>>70956662
> No, Zb and Hc are two different things, brought on by changes acted upon each agent.
The fuck does that mean?
HCN is the active ingredient in ZB.
If you're going to argue you'd better get your facts right.
>>70956446
I own the media scrapbook of one of highest ranking members of the Polensich GIE. Poor stupid Poles....start a fight, get sparked and then get sodomised for decades by their saviours.
>>70956298
What? weren't those some stupid meme rumers?
wtf
>>70954146
This. I was debating some kike on goybook right after Israel bombed Gaza. He was calling all Arabs terrorists but when I asked why jews bombed King's David hotel his answer was because of the holocaust.
>>70956710
Pic related is the sum of physical evidence at Treblinka. Note that archeological digs aren't allowed there "out of respect for the dead".
>>70956712
>>70956537
>>70956708
I find it really funny. Don't you too?
We're talking about the best documented genocide, or at least one of the best documented. There are documents, thousands of eyewitnesses, some of them living up to the date, and unlike you probably believe, NOT all of them are Jewish, there are also Poles among them. They were held in separate different camps miles away from each other, but testimonies are ALWAYS the same - gas chambers and mass killings took place.
Yet, your only way of argumentation is nitpicking.
>WHAT IF gas chambers couldn't burn so many corpses?
>Hey, look, here is a video of ONE prisoner making funny claims!
That's basically your only argument "debunking" the Holocaust "lie".
Also, see >>70956446
>>70951606
Ask teacher for sources that arent jewish.
>>70953255
>And how should gas chamber look, burger ?
Pic related
>>70953438
This desu
>>70956095
>led to the development of Zyklon (later known as Zyklon A), a pesticide which released hydrogen cyanide upon exposure to water and heat
I guess I was thinking of Zyklon A. It actually sounds like it would have been better suited for executions by gassing.
>>70956861
>start a fight
Except it was Hitler who invaded us.
>>70957012
They used diesel engines to gass the jews.
>>70952599
there are m8
>>70956922
Not at all.
Oldfag here ('76). We were taught in the late 80s-early 90s that the holocaust included soap/lampshades, and even shrunken heads. My dad was taught that shrunken heads were a fact, including many other atrocities like gold teeth, massive electric chairs, and more.
It's a truth that is malleable, anon. But each generation had better believe it and repeat it. OR ELSE
>>70956975
I couldn't find any pictures from Belzec because apparently there's nothing there. Chelmno conveniently used trucks apparently, so nothing there either.
Pic related are the gas chambers at Sobibor.
>>70951606
I used to think the Holocaust was real and I sincerely wish it didn't happen, but now that I've came to the conclusion that the original story doesn't add up and that we live in the victors world whose lies shaped the current world we live in I'm actually a bit disappointed it didn't happen.
>>70957153
Pat Buchanan, pls stay :]
>>70956828
Your totally missing the annahilation war in the east for Lebensraum for german people. Jews and russians weren´t even transported to the capms but outright killed. Makes sense if you think about it. What you gonna do? Round up some jews and then transport them to camps to kill them there instead of just murdering them? Nah man. Btw. offical numbers state that during the Lebensraum campaing 2.5 mil jews were killed
>>70956975
That is the mud ( mortar ) side of a tile. What silliness is this?
>>70957161
BZZT.
The Russians built that after they purportedly demolished the originals.
>>70957196
And finally here is a gas chamber from Majdanek. Notice the window which is apparently unbarred. The door also apparently has no evidence of a lock ever being installed.
>>70957161
See >>70956488 & >>70956710 my dude.
>>70957150
Polen agitated for war and was invaded by the Allies @ the same time and not a peep from the UK or France. You wear clown shoes zhidovski.
>>70957184
Lol, this is so stupid
>>70953405
damn it greece, fucking pay debts
>>70957308
>Round up some jews and then transport them to camps to kill them there instead of just murdering them?
This is what we were supposed to believe (Europeans at the risk of their own freedom) for 60+ yrs, so yes, rounding up jews and spending tons of resources they didn't have because they were such ebil raycissists.
You guys have no sense of history.
The things you insist upon now will be "walked back" in the future as the story continues to fall apart under what little scrutiny is allowed. And FWIW--as far as scrutiny, I can insist that George Washington was a lesbian pedophile, but I can't question the fucking holocaust? Anyone not smelling a yuge rat isn't paying attention.
>>70957360
You can lock it with pic related
>>70957318
Correct. It was originally claimed that the mark was proof, but as you already know it was just the logo of the manufacturing company, and is also on the wrong side of the tile.
They apparently also found evidence of a single demolished building using sonar, but weren't allowed to unearth it.
>>70957161
Why are there walls missing which were obviously there before? Sloppy Jewdy....very sloppy.
>>70957502
>Polen agitated for war
It was a Hitler who signed Ribbentrop-Molotov and demanded a chunk of our clay, not otherwise.
>>70957630
Seems a bit crude for a purpose-built extermination room. Not really the Nazi's style.
>>70956233
keeeekk
>>70957196
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIF07kWM8o0
>>70957557
Your kids will be taught that the death toll was only 200,000 (OMG PPL died in WW2???), while you would be jailed to say anything under 6million. You'll be dumb-founded, and you'll then be in the same boat I'm in now. Best off just to go off-reservation now and call these kikes out as the liars they are.
>>70957308
How long was it?
It does make sense, and makes the ~2700 a day number a bit more plausible.
But I still think the numbers were a bit exaggerated
>>70955273
>They used the camps in the late years, not in the whole 6 I used the math in.
That only strikes you as A BIT suspicious? Documentation is useless because it can easily be steeped in propaganda either way, we can't go back in time and see for ourselves what happened, so the only thing that we have left that can answer questions through time without bias is pure, good old fashioned mathematics/empirical science.
That line of investigation is always the most damning of the holocaust story, the more you look at the numbers given, the more you'll see nothing adds up. You can do the calculations for the how much materials they would have needed to sustain a gas chamber type operation at the supposed rate in the allotted time, and you'll find that they would have needed about 2000kg of coke (a fire resistant substance used to line cremation ovens) PER OVEN DAILY.
What sort of fucked up logistical suicide is that? Just think of how much effort would have to go into acquiring, moving around and putting to use that much material through all of the supposed gas chamber camps. This all would have been while the soviets were advancing, Germany was pretty fucking desperate by the time the gas chamber operations were supposed to have taken place.
I just can't for a moment believe that a man who is intelligent and capable enough to turn a bankrupt shithole into a superpower in 6 years would waste so much fucking effort on starting a genocide operation of such a scale near the end of a fucking huge war they were beginning to lose pretty badly. We know the Germans were so desperate they were putting old men and children on the front lines around that time, why would they waste time trying to genocide the Jews when they would have clearly benefited from their forced labor instead?
Absolutely nothing makes sense about the gas chamber story. Fucking zilch.
>>70957730
STOP IMPLYING THAT GERMANS ARE EFFICIENT@!!@!@ THAT'S ANTISEMITIC!@
>>70957308
>official numbers state that during the Lebensraum campaing 2.5 mil jews were killed
Citation required, further -
Jews and russians weren´t even transported to the capms but outright killed. Makes sense if you think about it. What you gonna do? Round up some jews and then transport them to camps to kill them there instead of just murdering them?
Why have "death camps" at all if killing them outright is easier like you say?
Maybe it's because there were no death camps!
Is your school filled with SJW's? What state are you in?
>>70951606
How the fuck can you even dabate a historical fact? It happened, deal with it. The only thing you could dabate are the details.
>>70951606
Ask him if the Holocaust is real then why don't I care?
>>70957698
It wasn't yours it was of the first war for Jew banquers....artificial much like a Jewesses claimed intact hymen. The media scrapbook is a scream and shows the utter depravity of atrocity lies. Best 15K Euro I ever spent.
>>70957161
https://youtu.be/ruD4I4f5LkQ
>>70957939
"Deal with it" seems to be the new go to phrase for shills.
>>70957882
Fuck off NIZKOR kook.
>>70957802
22 June 1941 – 9 May 1945
(3 years, 10 months, 2 weeks and 3 days)
Eastern Campaign
>>70951606
Just say you're a Muslim and you will automatically win. Muslims are immune from criticism and get a free pass for denying the holocaust.
>>70957821
>Just think of how much effort would have to go into acquiring, moving around and putting to use that much material through all of the supposed gas chamber camps
>waste so much fucking effort on starting a genocide operation of such a scale
>why would they waste time trying to genocide the Jews
The camps were used as the labour fource, primarely, not as the tool of extermination. Only those unable to work were executed.
>>70957730
So its not nazist style to use "crude " stuff ?
>>70957821
I didn't do more math besides the jew numbers.
Yes, it doesn't really add up, adding the fact germany was in a horrible inflation and crisis before Hitler, and then were in a very good economical state.
>>70958069
What an eloquent addressing of my concerns, surely you've convinced all those watching of the correctness of your views!
https://youtu.be/bMyoEG2c7a0
These people were interviewed by Spielberg too
>>70957977
>It wasn't yours it was of the first war for Jew banquers
Kek, pic related
I can't respond to the rest of your gibberish because I simply don't understand it.
>>70957821
>(a fire resistant substance used to line cremation ovens)
My bad it's a fuel.
>>70957939
>How the fuck can you even dabate a historical fact?
Germany, 2016
>>70952072
The holocaust happened. Therefore the story is 100% true with 0 lies and there is no reason to look into the facts.
>>70957882
Hey there: Numbers are provided by Wolfgang Benz - German historian with specialization on antisemitism and holocaust.
The numbers are quoted on wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Holocaust#cite_note-FOOTNOTELaqueur2001145-338
Was a bit off tho: 2.1 mil
The actual source come from his book that he published about holocaust statistics
>>70958196
Haven't you heard of muh german efficiency?
>tfw no more cool Nazis in JoJo :(
>>70958180
>Only those unable to work were executed.
See I can believe that happened, I'm not saying brutal persecution of the Jews didn't happen, but it's plain as day to me that the story and numbers are grossly exaggerated for some fucking reason.
>>70957939
This. I take a lot of pride in my country but that thing is just a shame
>>70958431
Deaths on the eastern front does not extermination camps in Germany make.
>>70956989
I mean, where did the technology for incinerating millions of bodies in a short period of time go? It takes about 8 hours to cremate a body today. Where are the documents with the diagrams for that technology?
>>70953405
>Most of /pol/ falls for the holocaudt denial meme
Top pip
>>70958511
I know, you couldn't even finish it off.
>>70951606
>Debating a professor about the six hundred billion
This won't end well for you academically, whatever your involvement with this professor is. There's a time and a place for the truth, and it's not a college classroom. It's on /pol/
>>70958590
Witold's report mentions the bodies were dismembered before being burned.
It allowed to burn them faster.
>>70958589
...what? Sry, what are you trying to tell me?
>>70957939
The holocaust as it has been purported:
6 million exterminated jews in the evil gas chambers
Most definitely did not occur, if the reality is so far removed from the propaganda perhaps a new name should be chosen for the entirely different event?
>>70958706
This. You have literally nothing to gain from this.
Don't do it.
>>70958706
Yeah. I can't imagine a single university in the Western world this conversation would result in you not having a bad day.
>>70958788
I'm saying that the piles of dead jews in the east is even more proof that sending them back to Germany to be gassed is unadulterated bullshit.
>>70953687
>Eveyone on /pol/ doesn't agree with everything on /pol/. I hate this.
Kill yourself.
>>70958703
We love our efficiency and discipline but we lack endurance. That´s prob why we never had an empire
This retarded argument seems to be less of a "Did the holocaust actually happen?", and more of a "Did 6 million jews really die?"
It doesn't matter who was killed or how many of them were killed, it is a matter of fact that this event occurred.
>>70955641
Notice how that one sounds a lot more realistic for a sentence that starts "my anime board"?
>>70954193
>throw Jews down a slide into a room full of poison pellets like some kind of genocidal ball pit
this sounds fun
>>70958982
No, you´re on the wrong path.The camps were build in the east because the majority of jews lived in eastern countries (not just russia). Look up the numbers. In Poland there were 3mil jews. Largest chunk by far, kinda paid off to build some camps there.
>>70951606
http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v19/v19n3p21_thesis.html
>>70959138
Notice how this isn't actually an anime board
>>70958196
I'm saying it's not the Nazi's (or German's for that matter) style to specifically build something and then go "oops forgot the lock lmao here lets use this chain and padlock to seal this gas chamber full of panicking Jews Hans".
>>70959004
See, we depopulated 50% of Ireland and starved 10 million Indians to death for money and everyone loves us.
>>70952874
Added to this, it takes 24 hours for a room flooded with hydrogen cyanide gas to be able to be entered and the bodies handled with protective gear, and 8 hours to burn a corpse in a modern, high tech crematorium oven.
>>70959401
you think everyone loves you
>>70959262
The link is about the master thesis, that got the highest honors in a new Zealand universty but got taken down once Jews learned about it. It's 320 pages
http://www.vho.org/aaargh/fran/livres8/hay.pdf
Here's a really short essay with basic info about why the Holohoax didn't happen
http://www.vho.org/GB/Books/dth/fndGraf.html
Made academically trough and trough
>>70958755
So that reduced it from 8 hours to 8 minutes?
>>70959401
Yeah because you didn´t lose.
...two times....
>>70959510
and? They didn't strictly use gas chambers and ovens you autistic shits. Ever heard of a firing squad, or at the very least a gun?
>>70959611
Also highly recomend this book
>>70958959
I pulled off a report on revisionism before and got an A, it merely presented several common arguments (such as the Auschwitz plaque number changing but 6,000,000 staying the same and unquestionable) and subtly redpilled the reader regarding some of the exaggerations. Personally I think it in fact happened but that's for another thread.
But regardless of what any would believe, to get in an actual debate saying it didn't happen with a professor on this would end poorly 100% of the time.
>>70959667
What happened with the the bodies of they didn't use ovens?
>>70959658
I don't think it's fair either, Germanon. I wish Germany had won the First World War.
> EU 50 years early, and Britain stays out
> No holocaust
> No Israel
That would've been so amazing.
>>70956989
>>70957821
>>70957939
>>70958621
>>70959001
Considering the fact that the Holocaust is such a well perpetuated and religiously taught idea there are still conflicts about current data that can be found. And the only data that can be had on the side that supports the idea that it happened as a mass and systematic slaughter of people are claims about it that are put forth. The issue is that WW2 was full of propaganda and it still reaches us through all this time. The numbers for the Nuremberg Trials we're all given by the Soviets, the "death" camps found in non Soviet territory at the end of WW2 are proven to not only be ill equipped for the extermination of as many is claimed but the disposal of the dead as well. We simply can't trust what the Soviets have put forth, which is what we have all been taught in history classes growing up, because of the prevalence of their lies and use of propaganda at the time.
The whole thing is just fraudulent. The measurements, statistics, and documents that we have do not match up to the story put forth when looked at all together. People were lied to because half of Germany was behind the iron curtain. I don't care whether anyone in this thread believes in the Holocaust or not. All I care is that you've come to your own conclusion based on the best available data, which is the only unbiased thing left at this point, and not what has been told to you by teachers.
I want to know why the "gas chamber"/air raid building in Auschwitz has no traces of Hydrogen Cyanide while the delousing building has build up of it that is off the charts.
>>70958706
Listen to this guy. Don't bring it up. You won't win. Talk to your friends if you really want to but you have to understand that most people have done no research of their own into this topic and you will be accused of antisemitism if you do so. If you want to talk to anyone in real life about this shit then tread lightly.
>>70959801
Must I search up photos of the skeletal men that were seen piled up across Germany? How the fuck am I to know how they disposed of the bodies?
>>70959694
For anyone who doesn't really need academic works for serious discussion just watch these. It's like a short examination of the camps and claims being made . Very easy to research yourself and verify afterwards.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uJEE3thwmk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2R6mTTrOlzE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47rbRNSGQUs
>>70952874
Another thing to consider here is the sheer tonnage of ash they would have to dispose of.
Pic related is where they apparently dumped ashes from the crematorium at Auschwitz.
>>70960014
You seem to know how they did everything else desu
>>70951606
dude holo happening was real. just beg for forgivness and cry a little bit that should help you not getting kicked out of you whatever
>>70960050
And this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ruD4I4f5LkQ
>>70959808
It doesn´t even need to be a victory but the blame they put on us plus the reparations drove many germans crazy. For my family it wasn´t so much the economical crisis in 1923 but things like not beeing invited to the Olypmics TWO TIMES in a row because you lost the war. Literally because we lost. And the die hard prussian tradionalists my family was and is it did hurt their pride.
>>70960085
Yep. Doesn't really add up.
welp
>>70952874
FUCKING DELETE THIS MODS
>>70960126
It's common knowledge available to anyone with a brain that gas chambers and ovens were an inefficient way to kill people. I'm simply saying that they didn't use these as their main mode of genocide. Saying that "It's impossible for them to have killed 6 million because of the time it takes to kill someone in an oven or gas chamber would take too long." is not a valid argument as they didn't strictly use these methods.
>>70956446
>>70956989
https://youtu.be/2j1V878kWPg
English:
https://youtu.be/b5SsNCvlZoM
>>70960472
But why? everyone can type that simple comment
>>70960445
I'm planning to move to Germany because the UK is economically fucked. So you might have the last laugh after all.
>>70960014
There were nowhere near enough. You are talking literal mountains of bodies stretching miles and miles. Ever seen a million people in person?
>>70960050
Haven't seen the first video. Thanks for the post.
>>70960500
>Jews COULD have been killed other ways, so they definitely were killed guys. Especially in a way that would allow 6 million to be an accurate estimate.
>Also oy vey
>>70953072
>yfw if people found that you type things like this on the internet
probably going to be executed with guillotine in germoney
>>70960014
There were several thousands at most of those.
And all autopsies made showed they died of Typhus, not deliberate starvation or execution program.
Those images we all have in our schoolbooks have nothing to do with the claimed holocaust, but they were typhus victims at the end of the war as result of overcrowded prisons and lack of supplies.
First one was caused because the eastern camps all shut down because of the soviets, so tons of prisoners were moved to the western camps and there wasn't enough room.
lack of supplies was caused because Germany was falling appart and losing the war
>>70960664
Can you see someone's body if they are buried under you, out of a coffin?
>>70955813
Ew, Dawkins.
>>70960570
depends where you going. I don´t enjoy living in Lübeck for example. Alot of muslims and turkish nationalists that piss you off. Where you going? What kind of job you ging to do?
Also Gerhard Schroeder had already discovered the organophosphates such as Sarin and Tabun and presented them to the war ministry by 1937. The whole Zyclon Ben usage is clearly bullshit.
>>70959892
Were these atrocities committed by Germans also a "propaganda"?
https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligenzaktion
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_AB-Aktion_in_Poland
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palmiry_massacre
https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonderaktion_Krakau
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massacres_in_Pia%C5%9Bnica
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massacre_of_Lviv_professors
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombing_of_Warsaw_in_World_War_II
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planned_destruction_of_Warsaw
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wola_massacre
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pawiak
Just get over the fact that Germans were in fact committing the genocide, and it wasn't only a Holocaust. Yes, the numbers MIGHT have been exaggerated - but it doesn't change the fact.
>>70960843
I'm not arguing that 6 million is an accurate estimate, I'm arguing that saying 6 million isn't an accurate estimate is not reason to therefore say, 'the holocaust is a myth' like so many people choose to.
>>70958115
Fucking mudshits, they might hate jews too but I'd rather be a slave to the kike then a sandnigger goatfucking backwards tribal heathen.
>>70961160
A lot of it was propaganda.
But Germany was also an invasion force with no tolerance for nonsense, they torched entire villages if they had connections with resistances or partisans
>>70961160
Thank you, people seem to think that just because the 6 million jews estimate may have been exaggerated means that the holocaust didn't happen at all.
>>70952667
You're seriously a fucking faggot
Holocaust denial is litmus test for some mental disorder, or simply severe arrogance and lack of education.
Whole premise goes like this: some kids and young people on internet overturned the conclusions from tens of thousands of studies, confessions, trials and eyewitnesses.
It literally fanaticism of sort.
And it's totally useless because Holocaust was just one event in criminal policies of Third Reich. Even if they didn't slaughter Jews, they still slaughtered millions of non-Jews.
>>70961343
But it didn't happen at all. There were no gass chambers or any plans for mass extermination.
Jews may have gone worse than any ehtnicity in occupied Germany but they didn't suffer nearly as much as German soldiers or Soviet Soldiers. That was Trauma, not being in a fucking work camp, some of which had theaters.
>>70961320
>A lot of it was propaganda
Post a proof that any of event I linked didn't happen.
>they torched entire villages if they had connections with resistances or partisans
And also bombed civilian targets, targeted Polish intellectual elites, politicians and sportsmen attempting to wipe them out and turn Poles into a nation of slaves, abducted the "Aryan" looking children and purposely destroyed libraries, monuments and art.
>>70961117
/pol/ is Christian.
atheist-fags, islam-fags, kike-fags, all are not true /pol/lacks
>>70960960
Where are the mass graves then? Surely that amount of rotting corpses in the ground would effect soil PH and composition?
>>70961160
I'm so happy for you guys that the Allies started a war because Germany invaded Poland but then gave Poland away to the holy Soviets.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katyn_massacre
>>70951606
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dda-0Q_XUhk
Show him this video.
Sorry OP but it happened
Here's hoping it happens again
>>70961775
The gas chambers are a lie.
>>70961160
This, this is my point.
That's just Poland, in USSR 1/3rd of population that was in occupied zone was slaughtered or starved intentionally.
They committed brutalities on such scale and with such blind hatred and disregard for life that I'm fucking appalled you have actual Slavs here who shill for Hitler.
How fucking dumb can you be?
>>70961559
Saying that there were no plans for mass extermination is totally fucking retarded. Is it just coincidence that millions of people who had never been to the front during the war suddenly fell off of the face of the planet?
>>70960559
I am beginning to think that there might be something fundamentally wrong with "JEWS". The whole number exaggeration and the current wars/disputes.
In fact, their whole approach towards life as the chosen people that are entitled to everything.
My mind simply explodes from thinking about this, because it might be true.
The word jewery is used to describe someone doing or taking something that blatantly benefits him and has more often than not negative connotations.
Notice how the word JEW is actually inside jewery. Coincidence? I think not. Its probably a message our ancestors left inside that word for us to find and be careful when dealing with kikes.
>>70961715
Was the soil ever tested?
>>70961848
>fell off
There was massive movement of people especially Jews, and a new country filled up, Israel
>>70961749
Yes, Soviets were just as bad as Germans. National socialism, international socialism - what's the difference. Your point?
>Allies started a war because Germany invaded Poland
The war was stared by Hitler's act of invasion.
>>70961903
Another self hating jew? What´s going on on /pol/ today?
>>70961749
But that makes no difference, Soviets did crimes and so did Nazis. On far greater scale of course.
>>70961516
If it were so ridiculous to deny, how come people go to prison for merely looking into the details? What evidence is there except "eye witnesses" and testimonies obtained via torture?
>>70951606
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzuo9Iylh6c
>>70962115
Gaze into the abyss etc etc.
>>70962033
There was 11 million Jews in Europe before WW2, and Nazis worked on this number.
>>70961559
>But it didn't happen at all. There were no gass chambers or any plans for mass extermination
See >>70956446
The fact of Holocaust and gas chambers was already known in 1942.
>>70961905
>HARD facepalm
You think the word Jewery has the root "Jew" in it? Really? What else have the brilliant intellectuals of Uruguay deduced from browsing /pol/?
Please. I must know.
>>70961903
Why do you seriously think nearly every country in history expelled the Jews?
Look up Kevin MacDonald's work on Jewish social evolution. Essentially they're a parasite people.
>>70951729
good goy no need to doubt our propaganda you can trust us
>>70961905
>>70954117
>Is it a coincidence that the word JEWelry is spelled like that?
>>70961903
>their whole approach towards life as the chosen people that are entitled to everything.
I hate the 'le chosen people'
>>70962163
Who does?
Who went to prison for questioning Holocaust?
>>70962115
The agreement meant economic security for the new Zionist state, as Goldmann explained in his autobiography:
What the Luxembourg Agreement meant to Israel is for the historians of the young state to determine. That the goods Israel received from Germany were a decisive economic factor in its development is beyond doubt. I do not know what economic dangers might have threatened Israel at critical moments if it had not been for German supplies. Railways and telephones, dock installations and irrigation plants, whole areas of industry and agriculture, would not be where they are today without the reparations from Germany. And hundreds of thousands of Jewish victims of Nazism have received considerable sums under the law of restitution. /11
Goldman said in 1976:
Without the German reparations, the State of Israel would not have the half of its present infrastructure: every train in Israel is German, the ships are German, as well as the electricity, a large part of the industry ... without mentioning the individual pensions paid to the survivors ... In certain years, the amount of money received by Israel from Germany exceeds the total amount of money collected from international Jewry-two or three times as much. /12
>>70962033
Do you honestly think that all of the jews that vanished were just mysteriously unaccounted for when they left to other countries?
>>70962115
Did I start a new trend?
I never felt like I belonged. I don't like the religion and most of the tradition
>>70962325
I´d love it to be honest. Might be my nazi blood boiling up again. It´s a pride thing and cultural so take pride in it
>>70962441
Self-hating Jews are a dime a dozen, Shlomo, you ain't special.
>>70962242
A lot of messing about with statistics after the war, even retroactively
>>70962367
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laws_against_Holocaust_denial
Do you think it was more common for the group being gassed to join together in silent prayer as they accepted their fate, or did they all scratch and claw at the door and scream and cry with desperate insane fear?
>>70962441
Israel is a kickass country with alot of pride that took succesful on the muslims several times and you´re literal in the centre of them. I would atleast go with the staes secular traditions. Would hate to see an uncucked country getting cucked by mudslimes again
>>70962687
I think they'd be too weak to struggle in all honesty.
>>70962406
I believe a lot of them died, like many of the other civilians. There wasn't anything special about their deaths.
But probably a million tops. A good estimate of death in all the nazi camps is about 300.000 including all ethnicities. This is from death records, although not all camps have the complete records
see
http://www.vho.org/GB/Books/dth/fndGraf.html
>>70962642
Nazism and Communism as ideologies are banned in Poland in general.
Does that somehow make them "right"?
>Gee commies aren't allowed to spew their thesis in Poland, I bet there's something fishy about it, what if commies are actually right?
>>70952874
THIS IS WRONG!
According to the very offical history, Holohoax didn't start til 1941, after the Wannsee Conference.
You gotta subtract two years from that, then.
>>70962845
No.
Researching , knowing and questioning official history is not the same as following any ideology. Facing jail time for asking questions is a sort of repressive ideology, similar to heretics in olden days
>>70962923
1942.*
>>70962824
So where did the 5 million go?
>>70958511
>pride in my country
What are you proud of? Nationalism is a disease anon, be careful.
>>70962441
>>70962610
Jews have always been the best anti-semites.
They are always obsessed with being Jewish, and that often turns into hatred.
The whole enterprise of Communism was designed to kill off religious Judaism.
Israel was another attempt to turn religious Judaism into secular nationalism. The original Zionists, Herzl and Ben-Gurion, were atheists.
Look up Karl Marx "On the Jewish question".
Or just consider who wrote the New Testament, which fucked Jews for 1500 years.
>>70962639
Probably because we're talking about a group of people spread across many countries.
>>70962642
So few people, some of them simply fined.
Jewish lobby is influential and they managed to fight for the respect of their victims.
I don't like that shit, but honestly Holocaust denial (as in not disputing numbers, but that it occurred) is absolutely fucking retarded.
You literally have no idea how retarded it is because you're so uneducated and arrogant to even consider you could be wrong.
>>70963034
>Gee, what if Katyń wasn't committed by Soviets? What if it's actually German job?
>>70962845
Nothing about ideologies, questioning aspects of the holocaust narrative is illegal, as is doing the "wrong" research into it. Now I could debate the Irish potato famine here, I could debate whether or not it was an attempt at genocide or merely the result of laissez faire economics being followed through, I could go into the death count and how many did or didn't die etc etc. I could do this for holodomor, Nanking, maos famines etc....yet not the holocaust.
>>70963074
Ok, sry
>>70952979
RARE
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>>70963203
>You literally have no idea how retarded it is because you're so uneducated and arrogant to even consider you could be wrong.
Irony: the post.
>>70963273
Which law in the UK prohibits denying the holocaust?
>>70962763
Eh, I want to move out.
I don't really like this country
>>70963054
See >>70962033
There were mass movements of Jews, tons of them fled to America, Palestine or Russia
Also these statistics are troubling because today some only count religious Jews as jews while this is not true, Jews are an ethnicity. Some put ethnic jews at 20 million in the world today
>>70963400
You're just proving his point and are too dense to realize it.
>>70951606
The Holocaust did happen, but it was not what we usually think of as "The Holocaust"
Germans rounded up all the Jews because they viewed them as enemies of Germany, broadly because Germans blamed Jews for the Depression.
Jews were blamed for the Depression because they had, historically, controlled banks and such (because their religion allows money lends, while Christianity at the time did not).
There are other reason why Germany did not like Jews, but I'm not writing a fucking essay here.
Any way, Germany thinks Jews are it enemies, puts them in concentration camps and ghettos so that they can not sabotage Germany while it is at war, exactly what the USA and Canada did with the Japanese, and England with Germans.
Quick timeline
1939: WW2 breaks out, Jews put in camps
The Jews are now in camps within a country at war with the majority of Europe, what amount of supplies do you think Germany is able to spare for them?
June 6 1944: Germany is now pretty much fucked, they will spend the next year struggling against the combined might of the Allies.
By the time the Allies reach the heart of Germany, the German army is now fielding young boys and old men, German citizens are starving, Germanys economic and transportation structures have been bombed into oblivion by Allied bombers
And people are shocked to find malnourished people in concentration camps
Basically the Allies starved Germany out and the Jews in the concentration camps got the worst of it, USA goes apeshit when they find out in order to take global eyes away from the shit they did (firebombing of Dresden/Tokyo, the atomic bombings)
And now Jew guilt everywhere forever
>>70963460
Where you going?
>>70963504
Why? He hasn't made any arguments except
>ARE YOU KIDDING ME!?
>>70960500
You were asked how they got rid of the bodies if not with ovens. Not how they were killed if not with ovens.
>>70963400
Difference is I love history so I read a lot about WW2. I'm pretty sure you didn't.
You don't understand, Holocaust denial is historical analogue of flat Earth theory.
Holocaust happened in Europe and it is simply too well documented and witnessed to even consider them possibility it is fake.
Both Western and communist academia, as well as others, mostly agree on narrative.
Numbers could be wrong, but event and operation did happen. It's impossible to deny.
>>70963305
I was just memeing you, but now I'm honestly curious, what aspects of German culture are you proud of? I studied over there and I'm a big Deutschaboo, but all the Germans I knew seemed desperate to distance themselves from every aspect of their culture besides the language and maybe literature.
>>70963468
>There were mass movements of Jews, tons of them fled to America, Palestine or Russia
How many went where exactly?
>>70963631
Never asked that question. Besides you don't need an oven to burn a body, you can just light it.
>>70963601
His point is, denying that the Holicaust ever happened is retarded because the evidence that it did happen is overwhelming. He's not saying you can't argue the numbers. Unless you can somehow debunk every single confession, ever photograph, every witness report and every document that proves it happened then you can't deny that it happened. That's why Holicaust denial is retarded.
[math]b= Births Per Day(360,000)[/math]
[math]d= Deaths Per Day (151,600)[/math]
[math]p_t= Total Population (7,200,000,000)[/math]
[math]g = GrowthRatePerYear =(((b-d)*100)/p_t)*365[/math]
[math]p^g=(muh six million *g )/100[/math]
[math]p_j=muh six million + p^g[/math]
repeated 70 times with cumulative values, puts the modern jewish population at around 14 million, which is indeed close to the amount of actual jews alive today.
However, Jewish census reports that there 16,600,000 jews alive before the holocaust happened, that the holocaust claimed 6,000,000 jewish lives, leaving a number of 10,600,000 living jews left to repopulate.
So if you replace [math]muhsixmillion[/math] which represents the probable number of total jews both before and after the holocaust with [math]10,600,000[/math] instead, the modern jewish population should be between 22-24 million instead of what the census says is 14-15 million.
The value [math]g[/math] is a practically very conservative population growth increase at just above 1.0, while though an average of all peoples is still generally lower than the jewish reported.
When applying a more specifically generalized growth rate to any of 'available' modern values reported explicitly for jews - going even as low as 0.68 for each of the 70 years since the holocaust(jews report they had a population boom til the 1970's), there should still be about 19 million jews from their 10 million post-holocaust growth, which is still incorrect from the modern census reports.
Tl;dr It's bullshit mate
>>70963579
No, that theory is awfully dumb. They managed to supply millions of troops in USSR, but they couldn't supply camps in Poland?
That doesn't make any sense, nor was there a heavy Allied bombing of Poland during WW2.
Only true thing that deniers say is that Hitler didn't originally intend to exterminate them. They planned to expel Jews somewhere.
But the fact they quickly switched to ''let's industrially exterminate millions of people'' just shows how insane and inhumane those people were.
And this didn't happen just with Jews, they did same shit in USSR to Slavs. Hitler specifically ordered that Leningrad (2.5 million people at that time) is to be starved after conquest and destroyed.
>>70963579
Control question: How many western allied prisoners died in German captivity?
>>70964020
Very few, but 3 million Soviet POW's.
That's the problem. Until late war, Germans treated French and other mostly fair. Americans never experienced WW2.
So to them, it's irrelevant, they like Germans too much to bother over 30 million dead Slavs. When did you even hear someone mention that outside of Slavic documentaries?
No one cares. You won't face any repercussion if you shit on Slavic victims in Germany.
Jews however are influential so they fought for their victims. Good for them.
>>70955830
I learned in school that it was 13 million total, 7 million being Jews
>>70963582
Where can I go?
I can get a citizenship to Belgium, but it's 2muslim4me.
Any country left to move to, that is English speaking?
I think America and Canada are the only options.
What about Canada?
I think UK is impossible, I thought about Japan but it's super hard, and you have to be super lucky to find a job + the work condition there is very hard.
I also want to study in a college abroad, if that's possible.
Soon... when I'm free
>>70963831
I don't know and I've tried to do research. It's hard because a lot of the Jews that got to US during WW2 and after WW2 weren't even marked as Jews.
>During the 34 years of mass immigration some 2,000,000 Jews came to the United States, of whom about 1,800,000 (90%) were from Eastern Europe. During the 37 years since the outbreak of the war, some 680,000 have immigrated, of whom 361,830 (53%) came from Eastern Europe. To these should probably be added thousands, or a few tens of thousands, of Eastern European Jewish immigrants who entered the US through Canada, Mexico, and Cuba. Because of the quota restrictions they could not immigrate directly to the US but went first to those countries, and after staying there awhile, left for the US.. Canada, Mexico and Cuba were excluded from the quota restrictions.
>*The figures for these and the following years are estimates. Since July 1, 1943 the word "Hebrew" has been deleted from steamship manifests and thus from the statistical information on the immigrants. The figures are based upon boat to boat estimates made by HIAS and United Service for New Americans
>>70964368
I mean, *what about Australia? not Canada again.
>>70963767
>what aspects of German culture are you proud of
Totally diffrent story here. My family are prussian tradionalists (like some others in Schlesien now Poland), so my family brought me up totally diffrently than your average german. Pride in country (Dying for it is kind of honorable), a bit militarism and throw conservative family values in there. We´re so much hyped about "Germany" itself. It´s just aorund 150 years old and fucked up almost everytime.
> I'm a big Deutschaboo
What´s that?
> besides the language and maybe literature
Vallah Digga, that´ain´t no hallal digga, wayyy
>>70964368
New Zealand, I have relatives there great place.
It's isolated enough and it's a sort of heaven for rich people, so if shit goes down you will be safe there
>>70963840
See >>70959801
Because yes, you were, shill.
>>70964368
Move to Los Angeles, plenty of jews here.
So many ways to make money, if you got the ambition, I am serious.
>>70964368
What about australia or new zealand? Fuck off they´re full and shit but they kinda got it working with all the foreigners. What about russia? Got alot of culture. Well USA seems a viable option too tho
>>70964368
Canada is full of sand niggers now. USA is your best option for based freedom.
>>70964510
>During the 37 years since the outbreak of the war, some 680,000 have immigrated, of whom 361,830 (53%) came from Eastern Europe
You do realize that doesn't actually make much of a dent in the 5 million, right?
>>70964659
How open are they to immigrants? do you know how it works?
>>70964693
I don't want more Jewbrews
I want to see Christmas trees in the streets, not Hannukahs lamps
>>70964926
Wtf, is wrong with you? Sry man but what kind of traumatic event happened to you that you despise your own culture that much? You´re almost german-tier
>>70963831
A lot of people were separated and assumed dead when they were not(not surprising considering the scale of the war). Here's a dude who thought his brother was dead for 50 years, he wasn't! It's a miracle! Ironically, it was Holocaust deniers who helped bring them back together.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBGCNWcrM2E
>Pride in country (Dying for it is kind of honorable), a bit militarism and throw conservative family values in there.
That's cool dude, I wish there were more Germans like you.
>Deutschaboo
Like a guy who's into Jap culture, but I dig Germans.
>>70964761
I don't want to learn cyka blyat
>>70964836
2spooky
Guess it will be America.
The question is how and how long.
My mother has a job in America, is that somewhat helping?
Moving with the family is kind of a problem, because my mother wants America, but dad doesn't.
And they're divorced.
muh complications,
If they agreed they might have moved when I was a kid and things could be much easier + no army for me :/
>>70964873
Missed the second paragraph. Again these are all just rough estimates .
The Jewish Quarterly Review, New Ser,. Vol 45, No. 4, Tercentenary Issue. (Apr,. 1955), pp 497-528
During the 34 years of mass immigration some 2,000,000 Jews came to the United States, of whom about 1,800,000 (90%) were from Eastern Europe. During the 37 years since the outbreak of the war, some 680,000 have immigrated, of whom 361,830 (53%) came from Eastern Europe. To these should probably be added thousands, or a few tens of thousands, of Eastern European Jewish immigrants who entered the US through Canada, Mexico, and Cuba. Because of the quota restrictions they could not immigrate directly to the US but went first to those countries, and after staying there awhile, left for the US.. Canada, Mexico and Cuba were excluded from the quota restrictions.
>>70964042
What do you mean? Katyn was blamed on the Nazis up until the 90's.
>>70965074
Being Jewish is not easy.
>>>70964761
Go to America if you can, it's still holding out against the darkness.
>>70965074
idk, I grew up with them, hating their religion and culture that was forced on me?
I didn't ask for some Rabi to cut my dick when I was 8 days old. I didn't want to do the Bar Mitzva and done it because muh family pressure.
I didn't have any traumatic event.
It's me being a seigi no mikata
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