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If liberals are wrong and their arguments fall apart under scrutiny, why do they score higher on IQ testing?
>>70936431
go beyond 115 in the IQ scale and people become very conservative again. faggot, go learn to research.
They don't, and what would that have to do with arguments anyway?
>>70937148
Explain why uni students are so liberal then
>>70936431
>IQ tests
That's like looking at someones University GPA without looking at what they majored in
>>70936431
becuase libs have no spacial intelligence
>>70936431
Thats funny, because minorities are predominantly liberal and their IQ scores are far below average.
If liberals are right and everyone is equal, why do blacks score so much lower on IQ tests and commit so much more violent crime?
>>70937378
He just did. IQ below 115.
>>70936431
>If liberals are wrong and their arguments fall apart under scrutiny
They aren't wrong. That's why liberals have always won for the last two centuries since left vs. right became a thing. Most of the rights people in the modern world enjoy were the work of previous generations of liberals and opposed by the right-wingers of the time.
The silly kids here just need to cherry-pick ridiculous specimens like Carl the Cuck to attack in order to make liberal arguments seem untenable. Put them up against a more informed liberal and the right-wingers get demolished, almost without exception.
>>70937378
Really nigga?
Universities are cesspools of lefty thought and lefty indoctrination.
They don't. But they use food stamps at over 2:1 rate that conservatives do.
My guess is selection bias. People who go to college and succeed are a slight cut above everyone else, and people who succeed despite not going to college are lumped in with a bunch of fucking retards incl. those who don't succeed. You end up with the "cream" of the crop being slightly above average and "everyone else" being average or below, with the intelligent minority drown out by the lowest rungs of society
>>70936431
IQ is a meme
>>70936431
also,
>source plz
>>70937514
>an informed liberal
sharpdull
>>70936431
>adolescent
I think It's natural that intelligent adolescent are liberal. It's a phase in development. They start to question authority as part of their development.
Nothing to see here.
>>70937378
There are so many university places these days, and so many shit universities that will take literally anyone for funding, that almost everyone at uni is horrifically average.
>Thinking IQ is an accurate measure of ability to present rational arguments
It measures your ability to say that shapes look like other shapes, and any evaluation of things that require a higher level of thinking on these tests is entirely holistic
>>70937542
Oh, I forgot to mention, 'conservative' and 'liberal' mean whatever the author of the study says that they mean. This is an important factor and whenever you look into the actual data it's basically total bullshit designed to produce these results in my opinion. If you look at the type of alt-right people who exist on the fringes, they're leagues ahead of the "communism was never tried" types who show up to Occupy and shit like that--it's not even a contest
Left/right depends far more on personal wealth than intelligence
I go to uni with a lot of very smart people, and every one there with daddy's money is right, and everyone there from working/middle class is left. I'm left at the moment, who knows, maybe I'll swing right when I get some money
>>70937647
>>70937580
IQ is legit, stop claiming otherwise. The problem lies with things like >>70937542
and >>70937650
Vet the sources/data/etc and rebut them, don't take on this bullshit opinion that goes against everything we know to be true. That's what the left does.
>>70937148
This, it's the difference between:
>Fucking hate niggers and muzlims fucking terrorists
and
>I believe that there is a serious social problem within the African American community and it's up to black people to address the issue. Islam is a terrible and primitve ideology and can offer absolutely nothing but death to the West.
>>70936431
>Mean adolescent intelligence
They are still learning.
>>70936431
Because libaral think that just because it usually works (like Bernies economic policy, it made norway go from being the pooorest country in Europe to being the richest same with the other scandinavian countries) then it's going to work again.
>>70936431
https://youtu.be/ODZ-RUufHgI
>>70937378
>Explain why uni students are so liberal then
Conservative students spend their time quietly studying because they are aware that as students their opinions don't matter.
>>70936431
IQ tests are deductive while politics is inductive
>liberals score higher on IQ tests
>"wow gee us liberals sure are smarter, conservatives empirically BTFO"
>blacks score lower on IQ tests
>"IQ tests are racist and often biased, you can't tell anything from this"
>>70937722
>>Islam is a terrible and primitve ideology and can offer absolutely nothing but death to the West.
Except among high IQ people, that there are liberals like Sam Harris (Hillary supporter, Trump hater) who can articulate anti-Islamist arguments in a much more sophisticated fashion than pretty much any conservative can.
Just like liberal/left critiques of Communism were often more nuanced and intelligent than conservative critiques. It's telling that the most famous criticism of Stalin was written by a left-winger, George Orwell. Conservatives never had a monopoly on anti-Communism or anti-Islamism.
>>70937514
I went over to /leftypol/ on 8cuck a few weeks back and asked them why, from a leftist perspective, I shouldn't vote for Trump since Trump is easily the most pro-worker candidate in the race
Their arguments amounted to "but he has clothing lines in Mexico and China!!" and "you can't trust a capitalist big businessman to deliver" as if all elections aren't a crapshoot. None of them really responded to my attacks on Bernie either
>>70937378
>uni students are so liberal then
at least 50% are centre or right wing. The ones you talk about are the highly vocal cunts that say buzzwords like they are exotic birds during mating season.
>>70938199
/leftypol/ is hardly what I'd cite as a hive of intelligent liberals/leftists. I don't think I've ever visited it anyway.
>>70936431
>>70938348
Well, they're certainly not the SJWs you're claiming we cherrypick, they hate SJWs, identity politics and neolibs as much as we do. They're a bunch of commie revolutionary wannabes and hardline socialists.
>>70937514
If liberals are so popular then why do they have above average IQ's shouldn't they be closer to the mean?
>>70936431
He who is not a socialist at 20 has no heart. He who is not a conservative at 40 has no brain. The smart learn. That is what makes them smart.
>>70936431
>standard liberal propaganda
Though my compass says liberalism, I fucking hate those guys, maybe because of
>standard authoritarian propaganda
Still I'd like to say I've seen both sides of things.
>>70937378
Implying uni students have a high IQ
>>70936431
The same reason most of them are financially broke.
>>70937719
>IQ is legit
Says the guy who uses the word 'legit'.
>>70937378
because the unis are liberal
>>70936431
good to know 97% of blacks in america have 104+ IQs!
>>70936431
A lot of states that vote red electorally have tons of niggers that bring down the mean.
t. southerner
>>70936431
Source?
Did you just make this up yourself?
>>70937539
Says 17-17-17 there m8
triple nine society is overwhelmingly libertarian
>>70937514
Today babby learns about the difference between classic liberals and modern day progressives.
Lesson One: Stop being so stupid and look up the difference.
>>70936431
No one is saying stupid people can't be conservative.
But it often takes a sort of psudo-education to unlearn all the things most people have a basic understanding of.
>>70941859
He's being stupid and considering moderates to be liberals
>>70937378
The exact same reason why they're all in debt, genius.
>>70937514
Also, debate me on anything and I will eviscerate you.
Immigration
Welfare State
Foreign Policy
Affirmative Action
Take your pick, and I will gladly demonstrate how liberals are completely retarded in regards to damn near everything except social freedoms.
>>70936431
>why do they score higher on IQ testing?
muh invisible sky-daddy
>>70936431
>If liberals are wrong and their arguments fall apart under scrutiny, why do they score higher on IQ testing?
that's hardly the case
>>70937148
Can confirm. 125 IQ, Conservative Christian
>>70936431
You want to provide IQ scores at 25, since juvenile and adolescent intelligence is very malleable and responsive to environmental influences. In other words, IQ isn't path dependent; children can approach their adult IQ very quickly or very slowly, but twin concordance on adult IQ is 85%, and shared environment and juvenile IQ simple doesn't affect the ultimate result.
Note also that (as we have seen in this last election cycle) blacks, with a mean IQ of 85, and hispanics, with a mean IQ of 89, make up a majority of the Democratic Party in the USA. It's not impossible that white liberals are more intelligent than white conservatives (although I doubt it, given their socio-economic outcomes) but it is extraordinarily unlikely that liberals overall are smarter than conservatives overall. There just aren't enough white Americans with a sufficiently high IQ. If the average IQ of the minority wing is 87 (averaging spics and nigs), the average IQ of the white wing of the Democratic party would have to be 113-116 in order for the Democratic IQ to hit the national average.
>>70937378
Empty vessels are easier to fill with desired contents. Not to mention persecution of "conservatives" in academia. All the liberals I know are geniuses trust me they'll tell you all about it.
>be conservative
>go to liberal college
>pretend to be liberal so I can get MUH GRADES
>>70936431
what's 'conservative', what's 'liberal'. obviously they're not defining it by something solid, like party affiliation because if they tested US democrat voters (almost entire black/hispanic population, and women), the republican voters (all white and male) would destroy them. just liberals jerking themselves off with cherrypicked data again. nothing new here.
>>70936431
because they have autism
Because it's all about virtue signalling and has nothing to do with iq
>>70937405
so why the fuck does that one iq test diagram always show up in race threads?
>>70937636
This. I used to think I was a radical leftist until I started working and studying politics.
a young conservative is a man without a heart. An old liberal is a man without a brain.
>>70938020
This.
poltards don't even recognise their hypocrisy.
>>70936431
Since when do IQ tests measure political arguments?
>>70936431
It is strange that liberals value IQ tests that shows that conservatives are strupid but deny that IQ is relevant when it comes to races.
Btw I have read somewhere that classical liberals (those who value freedom) are the smartest.
>>70939832
>>70944624
Nice meme
>>70937378
Explain why lawyers are so liberal. Explain why doctors are so conservative. Explain why unionized government workers are so liberal.
Certain groups are in environments where their interests pressure them to vote a certain way. Uni students have very unique life circumstances. Many benefit from being leftists, and the remainder know to shut up if they want to avoid trouble. Ten years later they're all voting GOP/Tory, because they aren't penniless and dependent on handouts from their parents, the taxpayers, and unskilled jobs.
>>70936431
conservatives need mo money for dem progroms
dis be discrimashun!
>>70936431
It's blatantly obvious that the results are skewed in their favour. This certainly won't be the first time they have faked results.
Also, they claim IQ doesn't matter (since it makes niggers the retards like they are) so why even bother with this kind of study? To rustle jimmies and get more virtue signallers to join them, obviously.
>>70945257
This is true, I remember the same thing, you can just google this and find it out easy.
Too bad these faggot liberals today aren't libertarians but socialists/communists under the enthralling of Cultural Marxism.
Can you imagine have a real libertarian political party that has a chance at winning presidency?
A third party like that would be fucking great.
This doesn't really take into account the powerlevels of politics.
From lowest IQ to highest
>Retard Christian Conservative
>Moderate Normalfag
>Normie Libtard
>Communist heretic
>muh roads Libertarian
>Batshit insane neckbeard fringle ideologies (i.e. Ted Kaczynski)
>Transcendent Realist
>>70946656
fringe*
With higher IQ, one can afford to perform the mental gymnastics needed to believe their bullshit.
so a genius prodigy poised to be a mathematician can become a SJW.
They are able to apply their above average intelligence to politics, and end up trying to convince themselves of the most outrageous shit.
Its similar to how most intelligent nerds do not do well with social groups outside of their own herd.
Libs are the same with politics, because they do not know how people work, let alone how society works. This is what they get when they exchange any ounce of common sense and simplicity for intellect. This is why they are so awkward to talk to.
>>70937636
Agreed. But it's not just about a phase in their development - it's about their interests. Think of what a young adult wants. He wants his parents to give him money (i.e., money he hasn't earned). He also hates that other parents give their children more money (spread the wealth). He is extraordinarily status conscious because he needs to fit in and make friends (caring about status is a big predictor of leftist political views). He really wants to have sex, even though it's not a good idea and everyone powerful in his life is pressuring him not to (sexual liberation). He gets what he wants by making requests/demands on his parents, and arguing for them; he thinks if he argues with "the powers that be" until no one wants to shut him down anymore, he must deserve to get what he wants. He is also (at least in the early phases of adolescence) quite stupid, and even into his mid-twenties quite ignorant, and suffers the worst ravages of Dunning-Kruger: he thinks he is right because he can't understand arguments against him, because no one has the energy to keep pointing out his mistakes, etc.
The whole atmosphere of liberalism is extremely similar to the atmosphere of adolescence.
>>70939495
zing!
>>70941217
they do though. Not relative to what I would call high; there are plenty of dumbfucks who go to uni. But the kids who don't go are even dumber.
>>70944761
You understand there is a difference between an IQ study and a jpeg, right?
If you have a 115+ like me and therefore probably slightly autistic and conservative you don't need fucking collage to succeed.
>>70946656
That's dubious, the US states with really high rates of committed Christians also have high IQs.
>>70946796
This is an important element in explaining why (((intellectuals and academics))) adhere to specific cultural marxist theories - coming up with a brilliant, but wrong, defense of a zany idea is a better proof of intelligence than an obvious, correct defense of a common idea. They care about proving how intelligent they are, so... But that's not an effect that would show up on population level IQ tests, because the number of people who have the IQ and social position to engage in that kind of nonsense is very tiny.
>>70947559
college hurr durr
>>70937148
There's also a huge difference between
1. fiscal conservatives
2. social conservatives
3. Christians who think that Christianity is conservative
>>70947665
Another important aspect is morality. They are smart enough to set the standards to fit them. They always pander to minorities while they ignore and even resent the majority. The problem is that more people suffer that way opposed to acting for the benefit of the majority. Liberals would prefer to have 1 billion people suffer instead of letting less than a million do so. Why?
Because of melanin.
>>70943386
132 Conservative Christian reporting in
>>70936431
Because:
A) Liberals are urbanites and urban areas steal wealth from the rest of the country along with people. No surprise then that the people they take tend to support the urban areas that they now depend on. People tend to support their place of residence. Even the Jannisaries were loyal to the Sultan.
B) Correleation does not imply causality. Most nuclear engineers are smarter than most liberals and most nuclear engineers support nuclear power; does that mean that only stupid people are against nuclear reactors?
C) IQ tests don't mean jack shit because of your testing method. You're testing self-described liberals and conservativs, not ACTUAL voters. I'm pretty sure liberals, who live in race-stratefied societies, didn't ask Jamal, Shaniqua, or the local illegal immigrants. If you literally forced every person with an IQ over 100 to live in a massive city that would starve to death if it couldn't slaughter and eat the outsiders, even the high-IQ urbanites would "justify" the act so long as it puts food on the table.
The fact that liberals use this logical fallacy as a means of trying to feel special is just proof that they're not very smart. Get rid of teh 17th Amendment and lets see how many smart people support literal petty theft.
>>70936431
If liberalism is directly tied to higher IQ then how come East Asian countries have some of the highest IQs in the world?
I only learned this from a BPS video but there is a book that claims that intelligent people are not necessarily better off, and are actually worse at solving certain problems than their "dumber" counterparts.
Oh yes, perhaps you also know what Thomas Sowell thinks about intellectuals? It's very easy for the smarts up top to make decisions that will never negatively affect them, while putting down anybody who disagrees as low-effort thinkers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmFBzuLJ6ac
You know how it is. Liberals will often refer to what they have been taught in college because hey, college is for the smart people of society, so it MUST be true! Anybody who disagrees with modern-day academia must just be a stupid redneck with no understanding of how the world works, so who cares about them? Now let us make your decisions for you you stupid apes.
>>70947559
Sounds like you need to go to collage.
>>70937445
>Thats funny, because minorities are predominantly liberal and their IQ scores are far below average.
But those IQ tests are only carried out in the "good" neighborhoods. Besides, the liberals would claim that black scores would be biased due to racism or whatever and thus not applicable.
Blacks should quit being the liberals' bitches and stand up for themselves for once. It'd be pretty cool if we could just give every urban black man an M16 with plenty of rounds.
>They aren't wrong. That's why liberals have always won for the last two centuries since left vs. right became a thing. Most of the rights people in the modern world enjoy were the work of previous generations of liberals and opposed by the right-wingers of the time.
Sorry, but you're wrong.
A) You're using the term "liberal" losly.
B) You're using the term "rights" when refering to privilages. Voting isn't a right.
C) Electrification and anti-Catholic policies are what made industry "safe", not unions and liberal faggotry.
Learn your history. All you did was murder a bunch of rural Americans so you could steal political power. That's not "Progress"; its treason.
>>70949387
>does that mean that only stupid people are against nuclear reactors?
No but there is a strong correlation with stupidity and being against nuclear reactors. Coal gives out more radiation than a nuclear reactor weekly even if it DID go nuclear meltdown.
No educated person could be against nuclear energy.
More education generally leads to being more and more liberal. During the Romney Obama election there were studies that showed that people that work at walmart, truck drivers, mcdonalds support republicans while microsoft, google, amazon support obama.
Funny how that works because the poor and uneducated are the ones most hurt by republican policies
>>70937514
>The silly kids here just need to cherry-pick ridiculous specimens like Carl the Cuck to attack in order to make liberal arguments seem untenable. Put them up against a more informed liberal and the right-wingers get demolished, almost without exception.
Strawman.txt
Hahaha, urbanfags can't even back up their own arguments.
>>70937539
>They don't. But they use food stamps at over 2:1 rate that conservatives do.
Liberal faggots will just bitch about poor whites. What they wonj't mention is that reconstruction destroyed the south intentionally and that is why southern whites and northern blacks(i.e. southerners who moved north but liberals didn't let them have jobs) rely on food stamps so much. Its like locking a person in their room and then bitching about how needy they are when they ask for water.
>>70942797
did the holocaust actually happen?
>>70949210
140 Conservative Muslim over here
>>70937539
Do you think needing help is immoral?
I hate niggers and racists because both are dum
>>70950454
153 Protestant conservative here
