Ask a Muslim with Moroccan roots that lives in Muslim majority Birmingham in a pretty much all Muslim neighbourhood.
Pic related, it was a Muslim gathering in a football field not that long ago.
>>70827503
Why don't you go away?
Is there any areas where muslims don't allow police to go in? Or do you still abide by the rules of the nation no matter where you go?
>>70827503
Death, prison, or exile?
That is my question to you.
>>70827601
No, the whole Sharia controlled zone meme was created by Britain First. The police wouldn't even let us do that.
Speaking of Britain First, they do a protest here every day, block passage into mosques, shops and other places and then complain that we're the bad guys.
do you want to have the Sharia law in the UK?
>>70827600
Go where? I was born here you fucking yellow cunt.
>>70827503
are you going to pass on your parents backwards beliefs onto your children?
>>70827503
I heard only fag muzzies get asylum. How much dick do you suck OP?
>>70827503
Jesus Fucking Christ on a stick ! Just look at how many of those sub-humans are in that pic, fuck you Bongistan you weak knee fuckers, why can't someone blow up these gatherings.
>>70827746
No, Sharia law should be only for Muslims.
Maybe there are some extremists but they do not represent the majority.
Once again a meme created most likely by Britain First.
>>70827503
why do you pray to a childfucker?
>>70827743
Would you admit that the strong flow of immigration has had negative effects on the UK?
Do you think that english culture will survive in the long run or will arabic culture prevail as the dominating culture?
Are you a muslim citizen or a english citizen?
>>70827781
Yes I will, but if they ever chose a different path, I will not judge them.
>>70827807
Born here.
>>70827777
You don't have to go home, just go away.
>>70827503
I can't decide which is more offensive. Muslims praying or grown men prancing around and kicking a ball back and forth.
>>70827777
Dogs born in a stable is not a horse
>>70827958
That doesn't answer how much cock passes those lips, Ahmed
>>70827869
so u want different rights for different people?
like chistians and atehist go to court
muslims go to imam?
>>70827947
>Would you admit that the strong flow of immigration has had negative effects on the UK?
Tough question, probably yes. However I didn't have a choice to be born here, blame my parents.
>Do you think that english culture will survive in the long run or will arabic culture prevail as the dominating culture?
I believe both cultures can live in peace. We don't enforce our culture on others.
>Are you a muslim citizen or a english citizen?
I was born here so I was given an English Citizenship. I can also only speak English.
Will Christianity in Europe be outlawed soon?
>>70827869
Would you accept a Partly Sharia law which only governs the Muslim majority parts of Birmingham and the rest of Birmingham being governed by UKlaw?
Or you want the entirety of UK to be governed by UKlaw regardless of the people being Muslim/Christian/atheist?
>>70827777
>Go where?
Away
>>70827503
Hey you Filth just take your family and go
>>70827869
>No, Sharia law should be only for Muslims.
so it means that you do support sharia zones in Muslim neighborhoods inside the UK?
>>70828061
Not on that level. In Britain everyone should go to a court.
Moderate Sharia law doesn't break any English law. Not eating pork or drinking alcohol, or wearing a hijab is not illegal.
>>70828203
>>70828269
refer to >>70828290
>>70828269
good job shlomo, can't wait to see what mental gymnastic he performs to explain this one.
>>70828014
holy fuck that is a beautiful response
>>70828120
Have you ever experinced muslims attacking christians or ethinic english people because of race or religion?
Do you believe islam is a more violent religion? Looking at all the countries in the world with islam as state-religion?
Do you wish to go back to your root country or stay?
Can you understand, with all the rape and terror coming from factions that has islam as their motive, that some europeans are scared and wish to close the borders?
>>70828290
>Moderate Sharia law
>>70827958
>Yes I will, but if they ever chose a different path, I will not judge them.
Impressive. So you won't hurt or shout at your kids for leaving Allah? Sounds like you're interesting into Europe culture well
Separation of church and state is very important here. The laws are the same for everyone
>>70827503
Do you know of any Islamic radicals in your community?
>>70828290
but u still would say if two muslims have a problem with each other they better go to imam than to the police/court?
>>70827503
>not that long ago.
It's almost a year since last Eid prayer, Akhi.
>>70827869
>No, Sharia law should be only for Muslims.
That IS sharia law though, muslims make their own rules, christians make own rules that apply to themselves, jews make own rules that apply to themselves. The whole system where each group has rules they are happy with IS WHAT SHARIA IS. Forcing muslim "cultural" rules on everyone like in Morocco or Turkey is secularism. Or when you force christian/atheist rules on everyone, that is secularism. If christians in a atheist state like America was allowed to refuse service to homosexuals then that would be partially Sharia because christians could make their own rules.
>No, Sharia law should be only for Muslims.
Would be a overall sharia state.
>>70827503
Why ruin a football field?
>>70828014
Is that a Norwegian saying? It's beautiful.
We should stop to understand the savages
>Like if you agree
>>70828290
>wearing a hijab is not illegal.
I'm not familiar with the terminology of the different forms of Muslim clothes but if the hijab is the trash bag look: it's forbidden to wear masks or other forms of clothing that make you anonymous. You should be recognisable at all times. If you're anonymous you can easily rob stores and shit.
So that part of Shari's law is illigal in Europe
>>70827503
How long until the British purge you from their lands, you ungrateful non integrating heathen swine?
>>70828290
What if a Muslim boy growing in a Muslim neighborhood in the UK, and he doesn't want to obey the laws of Sharia?
I'd pay to see an A-10 mow all of those fuckers down.
>>70828014
>>70827869
And you'd like non-Muslims to follow the rules outlined in the pact of Umar, right? mu7ammad kan kalb al-shay6an.
>>70828461
>Have you ever experinced muslims attacking christians or ethinic english people because of race or religion?
No, reality is you'd get knocked the fuck out if you did something like that in the street. I have had run ins with Britain First, especially that lady (pic related) and had an argument, but it never escalated into violence.
>Do you believe islam is a more violent religion? Looking at all the countries in the world with islam as state-religion?
Originally, no. But since the mess that happened in the middle east after a bunch of chimps decided to do 9/11 Muslims started getting persecuted and that made some angry and they became extremists which cause more persecution for Muslims and more extremists. It's a never ending cycle.
>Do you wish to go back to your root country or stay?
I don't know Arabic so I doubt I'll go back.
>Can you understand, with all the rape and terror coming from factions that has islam as their motive, that some europeans are scared and wish to close the borders?
I believe that only Syrians and Iraqis should be allowed in, anyone else should come in legally.
That's why the migrant crisis is so out of control, people actually fleeing war torn country is a small percentage of the migrants while the people from like Pakistan and Somalia make up the majority.
>>70828742
Hijab is just a scarf covering the hair. The face is completely visible.
>>70828014
>>70827777
Just leave, just because you were born here doesn`t make you British. You have no lineage going back in British history.
You have to go back to your ancestral homeland.
You need to leave.
>>70827869
>this fucking damage control
Fuck off we all saw the recent poll the findings of which will be broadcast on channel 4 tonight where 23% of you want Sharia law in the UK.
http://news.sky.com/story/1676189/poll-half-of-muslims-want-homosexuality-banned
Is this why you're damage controlling now?
>>70828014
Kek, I like how you called the Muslim a dog. Nice touch.
>>70828755
Then fair enough, it's Britain nothing will happen to him.
>>70828498
Just noting that this question was ignored
>>70828987
I have a citizenship so by law I'm just as British as you are.
I'm sorry.
>>70828120
>blame my parents
Where can we find them?
>>70829019
It was a question that I responded to how is that damage control?
>>70828943
Thank you for answering my questions. It's not easy to get an insight on the world of a muslim.
>>70828943
>they became extremists which cause more persecution for Muslims and more extremists. It's a never ending cycle.
Agreed. You have any idea how to stop this cycle? It seems Europe and USA want to stop dropping bombs on the middle East, you think this is the correct approach?
Ending this cycle seems like the best course of action for all sides involved don't you agree?
>>70828755
>What if a Muslim boy growing in a Muslim neighborhood in the UK, and he doesn't want to obey the laws of Sharia?
or in other words
>If a muslim becomes a criminal, what then?
Then punish him accordingly... If he murders the innocent then death penalty, if he starts stealing stuff, then cut off his hand.
>>70829032
So you're not talking about Sharia police, more like Sharia advisors.
>>70828498
No. I don't know any.
But that doesn't mean that there aren't any. They keep their secrets within small groups in order to not get caught.
Do Muslims understand hidden insults like asking for pork at a kebab restaurant? I did it once and they didn't get it.
>>70829085
do muslim men see women as equal?
>>70828014
Using this from now on, that's a right banger there m8.
>>70829138
Is there alot of Muslim on native violence? If so I've got a beef with you and any who both do it and allow it through inaction.
It's disgraceful
>>70829138
Because you're saying it's a meme that is created by far right groups which is a lie. Theres clear evidence Muslims BORN here like you would rather live under Sharia law than British law. Nothing to do with Britain first.
>>70829085
Don't be sorry for shit you didn't do. All you did was being born. The guy is being a cunt because he's grouping you with the worst kinds of Muslims you see on tv
>>70829085
>Moroccan roots
is a clue to the answer. Leave.
>>70827503
Rank the following in the order you perceive yourself.
Muslim, English, British, European.
Do you consider British history or Moroccan history your own?
>>70829296
>>70827503
so what sect most muslims there belong to?
we here are shias and we hate salafi-hanbali, anything rigid, including sharia.
are there this kind of muslims too? or everyone does his prayers like good sheep as in the picture?
>>70828014
11/10, got save the nordic queen
>>70829290
No, reality is you'd get knocked the fuck out if you did something like that in the street. I have had run ins with Britain First, especially that lady (pic related) and had an argument, but it never escalated into violence.
>>70829311
Found the muzzie apologist, I so easy to spot you niggers.
What do you think of Tom!y Robinson OP?
>>70828787
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as A10, is in fact, A10/GAU8, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GAU8 plus A10. A10 is not a weapon system unto itself, but rather a platform for a fully functioning GAU8 system made useful by the A10 aircraft.
Many /pol/ users incorrectly use the term A10 every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GAU8 which is widely referred to today is often called A10, and many /pol/tards are not aware that it is basically the GAU8 system, developed by General Electrics.
There really is an A10 platform, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. A10 is the aircraft: the platform that allocates the weapon to be deployed. The aircraft is an essential part of a weapon system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete weapon system. A10 is normally used in combination with the GAU8 weapon system: the whole system is basically GAU8 added on A10, or GAU8/A10. All the so-called A10 distributions are really distributions of GAU8/A10.
What is your opinion on the Sharia courts?
I watched a brief BBC documentary on them in the UK. As far as the documentary said, they were doing their own marriage ceremonies (as well as divorce), though neither was recognized by the government due to a lack of marriage license (?). Also showed they were discouraging calling the police if a woman came to them claiming her husband beat her.
Muslims are the new Black Plague.
Europeans shall defeat you as well.
>>70829257
Somewhere between 1.39bn and 1.62bn believe that women must be subservient to the husband, so while there may be the odd few who do, we're looking at something like 86%+ who don't.
>>70829296
>Theres clear evidence Muslims BORN here like you would rather live under Sharia law than British law.
Define Sharia Law.
>inb4 stoning
>inb4 killing for leaving islam
Normal Sharia law includes things that follow BRITISH LAW.
Not eating pork is not against the law.
Not drinking alcohol is not against the law.
Women covering hair isn't against the law.
>>70829518
/k/ommando, help us with the race war?
>>70829356
Bump
>>70827958
>>70829155
Not OP but I think that the middle east has a lot of problems to sort out and that they should do it on their own. Patronizing nations or ethnicities always leads to mislead hate. They need to have their own reformation (probably in Islam too) and then we'll see how to work with them.
Whats new in the ummah
>>70829536
Sharia courts are not technically legal, no one really goes to them. They're held by a bunch of random guys in a house.
It also makes 0 difference if your marriage is recognised or not recognised by the government. Your wife can say that she's a Mrs. and no one will bat an eye.
>Also showed they were discouraging calling the police if a woman came to them claiming her husband beat her.
I'm not sure about that. That woman could always go to a normal court and bring her husband to justice.
>>70827743
The police let your kind rape thousands of English girls, I'm pretty sure you could shit on Winston Churchill's statue in broad daylight and they would say "Aww, look at the little brown person indulging in his culture." A police officer came to my college recently, he gave us a lecture on extremism and despite the industrial scale rapes, beheadings and all the other shit we've been forced to endure because of your kind he said "The Far Right are the only problem." We don't even HAVE a Far Right presence in our town. Brainwashing at the highest level is going on.
>>70827503
what do you identify more closely as?
a nigger or a muslim?
>>70829518
Go home /k/ your boring everyone.
Also, what fucking flag is that,
When are you migrating to Morocco?
>>70827743
You _are_ the bad guys. Meeting silent protest and peaceful marches against Islamism with aggression and threats is pretty clear-cut. And of course defending Islamists makes you look like an Islamist yourself.
>>70829737
>>70829356
Sorry if I miss a question.
To be honest it would go something like.
>British (it is my homeland, I'm willing to put it infront of religion)
>Muslim (it is my religion)
>European (I was born on this continent)
>English (not ethnically English but it depends on the way you look at it.)
>Do you consider British history or Moroccan history your own?
Moroccan as that is where my parents are from but that doesn't mean I'm not proud of British history.
>>70827503
What do you think about the Muslims in the middle East killi g other Muslims (because they are of a different branch of Islam)?
Example: Sunnis vs Shias
?
>>70828120
You have a choice to return to your homeland and improve their work ethic.
Or
Rot away in bongland and be the interior enemy and greatest ally of the zionists.
>>70827869
So people of the scripture can pay jizya, yes? And atheists & apostates get the chop, yes?
>>70829664
>Not eating pork is not against the law.
>Not drinking alcohol is not against the law.
>Women covering hair isn't against the law.
Iseewhatyoudidthere.jpg
>>70828290
>Not eating pork or drinking alcohol, or wearing a hijab is not illegal.
The social pressure necessary DO break any law in europe.
By essence sharia goes against british law.
>>70827503
Why do you people go overseas and suddenly become orthodox and nationalistic when back in your homeland you indulge in degeneracy, greed and all points in between which are prohibited by Islam?
You are willing to clean toilets, drive trucks and wait tables in England, but doing same job over here makes you feel degraded? The argument about minimum wage and better salary is a meme because you pay that much tax over there. Back home you pay literally peanuts for tax.
I don't understand this nonsense.
Also fuck you and all the others who create problems in foreign countries by trying to change their laws with a holier than thou mentality. Because of you we feel ashamed back home when we see the news and unable to get temporary Visas to study and work overseas.
>>70828120
>We don't enforce our culture on others.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>70830036
Good answer, you mentioned early that you want to live under sharia yourself while not wishing it for the rest of the U.K.
Which do you think is better? Sharia or British law?
If you do not think apostasy should be met with death, how can you say it's sharia?
>>70830020
What? Blocking access for Muslims to shops and mosques is not peaceful.
>>70829835
>The police let your kind rape thousands of English girls
Fuck off with this, post a viable source from a viable website. This is brainwashing at the highest level, labelling us all as rapists and extremists.
> I'm pretty sure you could shit on Winston Churchill's
Churchill killed fascists like you who persecuted people based on their religion.
>>70829834
Yes, but what I mean by the marriage not being recognized by the government is that, if married by a Sharia council, a woman can only seek divorce from a Sharia council since it is not an official gov't marriage. Also mentioned was the rarity of approved divorces by the Sharia councils.
>could always go to normal court
Not denying it,just saying they try and persuade away from gov't involvement.
I can try and find the documentary if you want. I saw it in a gov class, in which the teacher said it was recent.
>>70829830
1400 years later, nothing has changed. How about you?
>>70828943
>Muslims started getting persecuted and that made some angry and they became extremists
You are so fucking young it hurts to read that naive shit.
Muslims always were this way after the last moderate caliph a millenium ago.
Youu were always the agressor in every conflict.
What is the barabarian pirates?
>>70830195
Middle East needs more people like you... to stay in the middle East.
>>70830066
Bit stupid. It was just like Protestants v Catholics 400 years ago.
I hope that they come to peace, I personally don't have anything against Shias.
>>70828290
>Not eating pork or drinking alcohol, or wearing a hijab is not illegal.
But if a Muslim does eat pork, or drinks alcohol, how would they be punished?
As you say, those things are not illegal in the UK. So surely you would need Sharia courts to enforce those rules?
>>70829027
Thanks for pointing that out
>>70830202
>Good answer
Cuck, he just said he is a muslim first and a british by paper and islamic conquest.
>>70830216
>Blocking access for Muslims to shops and mosques
True or not, it beats getting stabbed to death for depicting or criticizing Mohammed (may horse dung fall on his head in perpetuity).
You deserve all the blocking you get, violent swine.
>>70828943
>Muslims started getting persecuted and that made some angry and they became extremists
Saudi Arabia was hanging gays, chopping hands off thieves and depriving women of all rights long before 9/11, mate. Same goes for:
-Morocco
-Iran
-Pakistan
>>70830328
Why would I migrate from one third world country to another? I literally see no benefit of leaving the comfort of your homeland and trying to assimilate into a foreign culture that is disrespectful towards my values?
I have too much pride to run away overseas just for social benefits, I will work with my community and make it better at home.
>>70830276
Still getting drunk and hating the swedes and russkies
>>70830195
This tbqh family.
Not only are people like you looking down upon the very place you abandoned and pretending to be some sort of superior beings because whities let you in their land, you're also turning their countries to absolute shit. And then you go on and complain about racism.
>>70830202
There are different types of Sharia Law, the extremists follow the whole beheading thing.
Moderate Sharia just includes basic things such as not eating pork, it doesn't break British law.
>If you do not think apostasy should be met with death, how can you say it's sharia?
refer to the above
>Which do you think is better? Sharia or British law?
Both can be respected. Non-muslims don't have to follow Sharia.
>>70828943
>Originally, no.
What? Are you naive or just fucking stupid?
Islam is THE most martial religion there is. How the fuck do you think Islam came to dominate 62(SIXTY TWO) countries?
The martial tradition in Islam is WHY it is globally such a successful religion
>>70828943
>I believe that only Syrians and Iraqis should be allowed in
Why? Why should they be allowed in? Why is it Europe's responsibility to import these people? How does that solve any issue whatsoever?
>>70830546
I hate myself too much to hate anyone else.
>>70828943
Muslims have been killing each other, and everyone else, for 1,400 years; but now you blame "persecution"?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfWqM1hMTho
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ceGqB4raTZo
>>70830589
Thats why you get drunk to forget about self hate and direct it towards someone else
>>70830589
Why so edgy, fellow ahmed?
>>70830580
Pork is one of the most important aspects of being British. A bacon sarnie is like the national sandwich. You cunts open butchers and takeaways serving exclusively halal so you're not integrating with British culture- but actually replacing it.
You're all vermin.
>>70830216
"Post a viable souce" blah blah, read the fucking Jay Report, talk to the victims, even the Guardian reported on it. I didn't accuse you yourself of rape, but I won't lie and say that a sizeable percent of islamists migrating to Europe aren't giving us hell. I've experienced more violence, racism and abuse myself at the hands of muslims, yet here you are whining about Britain First being mean while denying any responsibility on the part of muslims, well boo fucking hoo for you.
Churchill would have cut off his own bollocks and fried with them peanut sauce before seeing England become what it has, largely thanks to mass immigration and the entrenching of alien religions and cultures. He fought Germans, and if you think it was to 'kill all da waycists' you're sadly mistaken. I don't know how you can lecture me on the Jews either, look how islam has been treating them at home and right here in Europe.
>>70830761
Life didn't turn out the way I had imagined. It is one of those days when you feel like shit.
>>70830580
>only the extremists follow the whole beheading thing!
The Sharia is the Sharia. Stop engaging in innovation and denying God's law.
>Both can be respected. Non-muslims don't have to follow Sharia.
That's no object though, since by the time your crowd has finished, there will very few non-Muslims remaining in Britain.
>>70830589
>>70830761
>>70830822
either of you Pakime?
>>70830195
>muslims
>having jobs in our countries
Moroccans in the Netherlands are the worst social group of all. 50% are unemployed. A huge amount of crime is comitted by them. 30% of the prison population is Moroccan.
I am convinced Moroccans are the worst people on earth.
>>70830216
>rotherham didnt happen
Typical muzzie apologia.
>>70830455
>You deserve all the blocking you get, violent swine.
People like you just create more extremists because of these insults. You're the real problem here contributing to the cycle.
>>70830487
Morocco doesn't kill people for not following Islam. Last execution was in 1983 which WAS NOT for religious reasons.
Pakistan and Iran have been influenced by the post-9/11 United States which just created more extremists which got into power in these countries.
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_in_North-West_Pakistan
Iran was also sanctioned into the ground which once again created hatred towards the West and created extremists.
>>70830793
b-but he kill da rayciss
>>70830952
I heard Indonesians are okay in Holland though, can you confirm that?
>>70830216
>post a viable source from a viable website
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotherham_child_sexual_exploitation_scandal
Never forget
>>70830580
>moderate sharia
Doesnt exist. Sharia is a codified form of the instructions mohammed gave during his life. You either accept Mohammed as your prophet and his word as law, or you dont.
Sharia includes: death to gays, no rights for women, stoning for adulterers, death to apostates, cutting hands off thieves, and enslaving the unbelievers through the Jizya.
>>70828014
>>70827503
Why you are not fighting for glorious Islamic State?
How many underage britcuck sluts have you raped?
>>70827503
Wherever there's a Muslim community, there's also an organised rape gang that specifically targets vulnerable underage white children
Oxford: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/womens-life/11447263/Oxford-sex-grooming-ring-Police-dont-have-time-to-keep-girls-safe.html
Keighley: http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/news/11443422.28_men_arrested_in_Keighley_grooming_gang_probe/
Rochdale: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/11444671/Ten-charged-in-Rochdale-child-grooming-investigation.html
Bristol: http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-30078503
Telford: http://www.shropshirestar.com/news/crime/2013/05/10/horror-of-telford-girls-sex-abuse-ordeal/
Birmingham: http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/child-sexual-exploitation-force-west-9151006#ICID=sharebar_twitter
Wycombe: http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-herts-22626994
Harrow: http://www.getwestlondon.co.uk/news/local-news/colindale-brothers-mohammad-imran-shabbir-6240834
Bury: http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/three-men-charged-over-sexual-6523744
>>70830997
>akistan and Iran have been influenced by the post-9/11 United States which just created more extremists which got into power in these countries.
>iran
>only extremist since 9/11
And here I though Ayatollah Khomeini came into power in 1978.
Jesus christ, how old are you? 16?
>>70831051
Yeah, but they arent "indonesians" as such. They are either indos (heavily mixed with Dutch blood) or Moluccers. Both groups are generally protestant calvinists.
>>70830195
B A S E D
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>>70828120
>I believe both cultures can live in peace.
What makes you think that? How is Islam in any way compatible with Western culture.
Freedom of speech, separation of church and state, free trade, freedom of the press, equality for men and women the list goes on...
ALL of those are FUNDAMENTAL Western values. How many of those values are compatible with Islam?
What the fuck would happen if I went to Morocco and started preaching about the virtues of atheism and told them what a great perspective it offers? What would happen if I went to Morocco and demanded that they start selling pork so that I dont feel insulted :( ?
YOU are a hypocrite
>>70830492
you are a good person, truly
I wish many of your compatriots and religious brethren shared your attitude
>>70830997
If all it takes for someone to commit to joining Islamic State is a stranger saying something along the lines of "violent swine", then I jolly well hope they fuck off as soon as possible.
The reason I insulted you was your eternal victimhood act. People are sick of Islamism in Britain. We can get along with any religion, but we cannot get along with a mad dog. When's the last time any non-Christian sect caused as much friction in Britain as Sunni Islam has? 60 AD?
Sunni Muslims in Britain would rather protect Islamists than make a fucking effort to admit that they have a problem, or to try to integrate. And of course any time a terrorist group slaughters innocents in Europe, Muslims are the _real_ victims. Unbelievable.
>>70830492
I have nothing but respect for people like you. OP needs to go back to his homelands.
>>70827503
South Asians account for 7% of the total population, but are responsible for 33% of rape crime.
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/02/world/in-torrent-of-rapes-in-britain-an-uncomfortable-focus-on-race-and-ethnicity.html?_r=0
>>70830569
Based Pakis. You guys get it.
>>70827503
You never really answered my question.
Which do you consider in the best interest for s brighter and better United Kingdom? Your version of Sharia or our current English/Scottish laws?
>>70830492
THIS is the thinking that many people should have, but do not.
Good on you.
>>70827503
>when all them muslims and your minigun only has 2000 rounds
>>70831568
Do you understand that we will unite and push you away ?
>>70830492
>>70830569
Good lads.
>>70831367
>What the fuck would happen if I went to Morocco and started preaching about the virtues of atheism and told them what a great perspective it offers? What would happen if I went to Morocco and demanded that they start selling pork so that I dont feel insulted :( ?
In truth you'll never get them to have a problem with their own double standard because, of course, they're supremacists.
>>70831832
Should have sprung for that pipebomb.
>>70830492
Because they ain't migrants. They're an invasion force.
>>70831886
Oops I was talking to OP
>>70831832
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJp0OmlYFS4
>>70827503
How much would we have to pay you to leave europe and return to marocco without any option of return?
>>70827503
>70830467
When are you going to realise that religions are for people who cant think outside their brainwashed youth?
>>70827503
This thread is strange, you're trying to claim how good Muslims are, just sadly misunderstood by the beasts on the Far Right, yet your very first statement is basically you bragging and shoving it in our faces how Islamicized one of our major cities is now, a city that is one of our important cultural centres too. I'm not buying it, sorry. To say you're as British as we are is strange considering how proud you seem of your religion and roots that are distinctly un-British...I smell a rat.
>>70827503
The kitman thread.
In Islamic jurisprudence kitmān (كتمان "secrecy, concealment") is a subfield of Ḥiyal (the practice of deception or trickery), consisting of the art of making ambiguous statements, paying lip-service to authority while reserving personal opposition, in a kind of political camouflage
Never trust anything a Muslim says...ever
>>70827638
You never answered my question.
>>70831568
Couldn't have put it better myself. When the Catholics had a problem with pedophilia in the Church they actually attempted to dispose of them. But you never seem to hear about Muslims wanting to dispose of their hate preaching Imams actively recruiting jihadis, instead it's that old hashtag #notallmuslims
>>70832232
You've got to be kitman me!
>>70830195
>Also fuck you and all the others who create problems in foreign countries by trying to change their laws with a holier than thou mentality.
It's called integration and assimilation. That is what democracy is all about. And Sharia is superior, you should apply it in Pakistan, kill the faggots.
>>70829834
>Sharia courts are not technically legal, no one really goes to them.
You're so full of shit. Britain literally have state sponsored Sharia courts that has trained Imams, or whatever, in British law, so they can navigate in how they can rule over other Muslims without making it illegal.
iirc there are 9 of those spread out.
>>70830328
Why would he travel to the middle east? Why can't he stay where he is?
>>70830492
Based.
If you want to live in a muslim community fair enough, it's just obviously the best way to do so is in a muslim country lmao, not in some ghetto in another culture.
>>70830580
Extremism is only a problem when the doctrine it follows is flawed.
>>70832211
YOU MAD CUZ WE TAKIN OVER YEAH?
>>70830036
Putting your homeland before religion is pretty much blasphemy in Islam. How do you cope with that unless you are basically only culturally a muslim.
>>70830580
>the extremists follow the whole beheading thing.
You mean, people like the Prophet Muhammed? You should watch your mouth. The only Sharia law is the law that Allah has provided. Sharia is the laws that Allah has ordered muslims to follow:
“[As for] the thief, the male and the female, amputate their hands in recompense for what they earned [i.e. committed] as a deterrent [punishment] from Allah. And Allah is Exalted in Might and Wise.” [Quran 5:38]
"moderate sharia" is just regular atheism.
>>70829967
The mighty Bosnia.
>>70827777
Move to some muslim shithole instead of ruining a decent country
>>70833274
It's like when you accidentally move a layer in Photoshop.
Hit undo m8, get that yellow edge flush to the edge of your flag.
>>70830793
>Churchill would have cut off his own bollocks and fried with them peanut sauce before seeing England become what it has, largely thanks to mass immigration and the entrenching of alien religions and cultures.
Well, churchill is to blame himself for drawing Iraq on the map instead of letting muslims control themselves. He was a mindless drunk who did mindless stuff
>>70828014
haha thats great
Being White British myself how easy is it to bang Muslim qts? Are there any Muslim qts?
>>70827869
Sharia LAW is not a fucking meme you fucking Allah loving faggot. They were talking about Sharia Law yesterday on the SJW BBC and talking about how it's the main law for Muslims and not British Law in the Mudslime community. And how they need to tackle it, stop making stuff up to make you bacon baps look less bad.
Muslims have no place in the West. Even every other religion is compatible with the West, Muslims are not, your ideals and beliefs go against everything the West stands for.
Terrorist scum. You people don't assimilate, you even said you live in a Muslim neighbourhood. Obvious how you all stick stick together and hate the West. Mudslime cynr.
>>70833426
Obligatory borders.png.
>>70827777
You can go to hell where the rest of the followers of the Satanic Cult of Muhammed the faggot rapist goes.
>>70833449
If you think being stabbed by a fat, hairy, bearded camelfucker is easy, then it's very easy.
How can you tell whether a bin bag has a qt underneath, though?
>>70830822
start practicing islam properly, then.
>>70833449
Turkish Girls are all Anal Sluts.
You can easily spot them by how much make-up they have in their face while wearing a hijab and skintight clothes.
>>70830952
>30% of the prison population is Moroccan.
Secular muslims, you should let ISIS handle criminal muslims.
>>70833633
>Turkish Girls are all Anal Sluts.
This. They want to keep their virginity for when they're married but would happily take it up the arse.
>>70830952
>30% of the prison population is Moroccan.
Secular muslims, you should let ISIS handle criminal muslims.
>>70830997
>Morocco doesn't kill people for not following Islam.
Morocco have atheist laws, which is why so many moroccans are criminal. You should clean up the filth and not send them here.
>>70828014
Muslims on suicide watch.
>>70831134
>no rights for women
Islam provide more rights for women than the netherlands who don't even give women the right to cover her face.
>>70828014
God damn I've never heard that before. Beautiful
>>70827869
So if it is only for Muslims, what would "moderate" people in your majority Muslim neighborhood say/do if a scantily clad woman drinking bear and eating pork chops walked through it? Be honest Mohamed.
>>70833891
I've no issues with women wearing a hijab, but do you have any consideration for how the native population might feel seeing some woman walking around in a bin bag?
>>70833891
We havent banned hijabs... yet. So yeah, we do give them the right to cover themselves.
The fuck are you doing in Norway, Achmed? You know what happens to people who advocate pro-Islam and pro-ISIS on 4chan right?
Google Mark Harding.
>>70833402
We Bosniaks use this flag, the "modern flag" on 4chan is a compromise between Serbs and Croats.
>>70834195
How many Salafi mosques are within walking distance?
>>70833891
>give women the right to cover her face.
a barbaric form of oppression because mudshit men in the middle east can't control their base urges so need women covered. Any women who "wants" to wear it is brainwashed. It has no place in Europe.
>>70827777
Being born here doesn't make you belong here. Your history, family and culture are not ours. Soon you are going to be forced out so you might as well leave now with good prospects before your kind kill one too many of us and we finally respond.
>>70834195
>the "modern flag" on 4chan is a compromise between Serbs and Croats.
That's a good thing, Bosniaks are not a nation.
B&H is rightful Serbian and Croatian clay.
>>70829085
You literally aren't. What colour is your skin, what religion are you (we already know obviously), what are your cultural practices?
Having a passport isn't the same as being british.
>>70827503
Anyone retarded enough knows... you essentially want to turn the UK into the same rat infested shithole your parents, grandparents crawlled out of.
>>70827503
Target rich environment.
>>70827503
What's the optimal time to set on a clock strapped to your chest with accompanying explosives?
>>70834026
Already know the answer to this, i lived in doncaster for a while because i worked at the hospital. It's a highly muslim area and my girlfriend got harassed once in a park in summer for wearing shorts and a crop top.
The following 2 years that we lived there she didn't dress freely at all because of the angry staring she would get from the groups of men dressed in pyjamas loitering on the streets.
They only pretend they are happy to let you live how you want when they don't have the numbers to enforce their desires. Having lived with them I know what they intend for the country.
>>70834161
>Google Mark Harding.
Some guy arrested for anti-muslim remarks in 1998. How did he advocate pro-islam stuff on 4chan
>>70834313
>Giving women the right to privacy is oppression.
No wonder so many women convert to Islam all the time. Britain has about 50,000 muslim converts every year and about 75% of them are women. If you think it's oppressive to afford women some privacy, what an asshole. At least muslim men give women some rights and listen to them. Men might rule among us, but women don't want to rule, they just don't want to be oppressed like they are by you beta fucks.
>>70830580
You should have to follow the law of the land. Use have no place to even suggest Sharia law should be implemented.
>>70835015
> Being forced to cover up is freedom of privacy
Wew lad, try go to any predominantly muslim country and wear shorts with your hair out.
>>70833891
>who don't even give women the right to cover her face.
When wearing a burka becomes a potential public safety hazard as no one knows who is under the burka and you can't see their face or body, then it should be banned in public areas. It's not a matter of religious tolerance or women's rights, it's to ensure that everyone feels safe and secure in public spaces, and so that everyone can actually SEE each other's bodies and faces, which strengthens social cohesion. That's why wearing ski-masks in public locations and on public transport is illegal. It targets ALL face-covering clothes.
I mean you're not going to trust a stranger at all if you can't even see their face and body, are you?
>>70830580
Moderate sharia is false sharia, moderate islam is no islam. You'll be taught that by your own in time.
Your book makes it pretty clear its the perfect and final word of god, there's not much space for revisionism there.
> In b4 but burka is not written in the book
Seen as that will be your obvious response ill just go ahead and point out that its not part of the argument
>>70835121
>no place to even suggest Sharia law should be implemented.
British courts are already based on Sharia. You use evidence and witnesses instead of the Christian way of deciding courts by doing ordeals. Europe implemented those parts of Sharia after taking over muslim spain in 1492 and adopting sharia elements in their own courts.
>>70835015
>Britain has about 50,000 muslim converts every year and about 75% of them are women
Gonna need a source on this or bullshit.
> At least muslim men give women some rights and listen to them
No they don't Muslims believe Women should ALWAYS obey their husband- the opposite of giving women rights.
>More than one third - 39% - were also found to be of the view that "wives should always obey their husbands".
And that's just the ones who admitted it. Source: http://news.sky.com/story/1676189/poll-half-of-muslims-want-homosexuality-banned
Now fuck off back to the middle east dirty backwards sandnigger.
>>70827503
Have you faced any public resentment for being Muslim?
How do you feel about fundamentalism when it comes to Islam?
What's your local populations general consensus on Sihkism?
How far back have you been taught about the history of Islam?
What's your feelings on the Mughal dynasty?
>>70835015
>At least muslim men give women some rights and listen to them
Oh yeah, how could we forget those all important rights of the right to get beaten, and the right to be denied education
Truly the cornerstones of great civilisations
>>70835193
It's a way of closing off the women from the world, no-one talks with them, no-one engages with them. They are burdened and hidden.
In the UK we have a huge problem with muslim women not even being able to speak english because their husbands and brothers manage all their affairs, they even manipulate their votes.
The burka has always been a tool of isolation and subjugation. Then again the qu'ran praises subjugation above all virtues.
>>70835015
Mark Harding was arrested for being a pro-ISIS fagtard who advocated for ISIS on /int/.
You must have found the wrong guy on google.
>>70835193
And I'm certain that certain types of motorbike helmets are illegal as well. There is absolutely no reason to cover up ones face that makes any lick of logical sense. The Koran does not make it mandatory for women to wear burkas, so it's not violating any religious freedom law at all either. Wearing the burka is a matter of personal preference, and the law should NOT conform to people's personal preference - especially when it is NOT conducive to the general public cohesion at all.
>>70835306
Are you trying to be genuine? Trials were a direct part of christian culture from roman legal practices.
Ordeals have never been a significant aspect of it, have you just watched the crucible and are getting confused?
You do remember that our god was put on trial himself?
>>70835306
Ancient Rome used witnesses and evidence. A milenium before Islam was ever even created.
Our European system is based on Roman Law. Not Sharia.
>>70835336
Sssh they believe the woman has lots of rights to be a loving mother, and the freedom to always obey the husband.
It's orwellian doublethink and the equivalent of a monkey trying to mislead with semantics without realizing smarter humans can't be affected by it.
>>70827638
DEATH!!!!!! BY EXILE
>>70829085
Just you wait m8.
>>70835417
>closing off the women from the world, no-one talks with them, no-one engages with them. They are burdened and hidden.
I recall that was one of the reasons why it was one of the banned garments. They're never going to integrate, which is a big part of the Dutch immigration model - integrate and show you can be a part of the country or GTFO - if there is the equivalent of a wall between them and others. They might be nice people but you just do not feel able to communicate with them at all.
Stay strong @OP! Ignore the haters! Islam shall rule UK!
>>70835618
>>70835751
Hello my fellow dutch-bro's. How is your TTIP referendum going on, got 600.000 signatures already? When you will show again your middle finger to EU on completely not-EU-sponsored-and-initiated referendum? So nice to know there is true democracy somewhere
>>70827777
You don't belong here, aren't wanted here and, outside of your Islamist clique in objectively the worst part of England, you don't fit in at all. Muslims and English people are like chalk and cheese. Please, leave.
>>70828742
>I'm not familiar with the terminology of the different forms of Muslim clothes but if the hijab is the trash bag look: it's forbidden to wear masks or other forms of clothing that make you anonymous.
It isn't in most EU countries though. Maybe in Britain, but definitely not here. Only in certain buildings and things like public transport.. Beyond yhat you're free to wear tents, ski masks or motorcycle helmets if you please.
>>70835879
>this autist
wew
>>70835767
Nobody would have a problem if Islam stayed in the Middle East
>People who's ancestors created the country over hundreds of years have a problem with a violent, backwards religion being imported
>Dw man they're just haters lol kill the Queen!
>>70835751
Thats the exact idea, a sign of weakness of ideology is the attempt to keep away from conflicting ones, because one knows that you will lose.
So the only way to keep their women is to totally incapacitate them from communication with another culture. When i was in doncaster i would see plenty, but even when they HAD to leave the house to go shopping, they would always have a son present to talk to cashiers.
It is the result of deep deep weakness.
We would crush islam in days if we just gained some confidence in our enlightenment culture and accepted that human life has no intrinsic worth, but that we must make humanity great ourselves and proceed to unleash our arsenal on them.
>>70835976
>be Dutchfag
>make referendum (non binding)
>non binding
wew you must be proud of your """victory"""
>>70827777
If lived in my garage for 20 years, does it make me a car?
>>70835898
I cannot wait to see that defence used when things come to a head. The confusion when they cannot understand how we can tell they are not british.
> "But david cameron said there was no such thing as british and i was born here!!"
>>70835336
>Gonna need a source on this or bullshit.
There was a 0 too much there, but still the huge majorty is women because women love islam.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/oct/11/islam-converts-british-women-prejudice
>No they don't Muslims believe Women should ALWAYS obey their husband
It fits better with their nature and protect their rights, but removing their rights to privacy is the opposite of giving women rights. Which is why women convert.
Women in the west still feel oppressed even if you cuck yourselves because you don't give women the right to have anything important.
>>70835365
>Oh yeah, how could we forget those all important rights of the right to get beaten
As long as it does not bruise the skin or hurt the bones and as long as it's not anywhere near the head then it is halal. And sometimes women need to know their place. They are your leaders, but they do not rule in muslim households.
>and the right to be denied education
Quite the contrary, women has a duty to educate herself, just like men. But it is more important for women. Which is why universities in muslim countries have way more women than men. 80% of university students in Qatar are women. ( http://dohanews.co/female-university-students-outnumber-males-nearly/ ) And all of them have more women than men. Even shias have 60% female uni students in Iran... The more atheist laws the country has, the less women. Some has as low female attendance as Sweden or Norway
>>70836111
Only if you keep raping the exhaust pipes of the other cars, fail to learn how to use petrol and then explode.
>>70835987
Wtf get them out of the middle East, they don't even belong there they belong in their shitty Arabian peninsula.
>>70827869
>They do not represent the majority.
No. The majority of Muslims are not terrorists, but that doesn't mean that a good percentage of Muslims are not extremist.
I guarantee you know a couple of people who you believe have "dodgy" views when it comes to Islam, and there are probably dozens more in your community who just keep quiet about it. People who wouldn't blink and keep going about their business if ISIS took over as the Government.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7TAAw3oQvg
>>70836163
> Muslim men are not educated
Any more common knowledge you feel like reiterating?
>>70828711
I saw it made before by japan
>>70836248
> Why stop at peninsula
>>70828014
>>70828014
Fantastic
>>70827503
How many bikes have you stolen?
>>70827503
Why didn't you bomb it?
>>70828290
hahahaha what the fuck.
So you are in favour of Sharia controlled zones. Meaning areas in which Islamic law is enforced.
So in these areas would nobody be allowed to drink or eat pork? It's one small step from that to fully blow Sharia.
>>70827777
Just fuck off. In 50 years the white population will snap. Don't forget how good we are at killing, paki boy.
>>70832232
To be fair he probably doesn't know about it. Muslim expert probably do and so it's much more likely to see a community leader or an imam engage in that type of behavior.
Otherwise, muslim who come here in order to contort and bow down in front of us are just scared. As the pressure increase, a lot more of them are suddenly gonna discover just HOW MUCH they loved their host country.
No. Truly. They mean it.
>>70829628
> 86% who think women must be subservient to the husband
Same percentage as /pol/ then
>>70828014
Norway bringing the bantz
How does it feel knowing you're going to get genocided in the next decade?
>>70835618
>Our European system is based on Roman Law. Not Sharia.
Then why did Christians first adopt it after taking over muslim spain and why did it spread from muslim spain? It comes from Sharia, before that Europe used ordeals (throwing people into rivers with rocks around their neck, putting their hands in boiling water and see if there are blemishes and so on)
Wittnesses and evidence was not used prior to 1492 where the first place that used evidence and wittnesses was courts in spain where it had been used during muslim rule.
>>70828014
N O I C E
>>70830195
based
>>70828014
>>70836314
I am a muslim man with a Msc in a scientific field.
>>70828711
>>70836338
It was part of a standup routine by Roy 'Chubby' Brown an English comedian.
It went something like "These blacks think they're British cause they're born here. If a dog's born ina stable does that make it a horse?".
>all this butthurt and nerves
Masha'Allah akhi.
>>70827503
Islam sucks. You only exist because of Labour's shitty immigration policies.
How much welfare have you leached this month?
How many white children have you and your mates raped this week?
>>70835879
>referendum vote against EU
>Still continues
>referendum vote against ukraine partnership
>PM says "we can't accept partnership as is"
>They'll change a comma or two and go full steam ahead
>true democracy
>>70836780
They didn't. I don't think you know much about our history - christianity wasn't a sweeping change over europe. Everywhere it went it adopted local religious practices and laws.
Europe by this stage was totally governed by roman legal systems, economics and even culture. None of that changed when the roman empire adopted christianity.
The roman empire wasn't usurped by christianity, all its courts and rulers remained in place.
Christianity has literally never existed without trials and courts.
You are talking a hilarious amount of shit that you cant even begin to back up. Stop playing with the big boys.
>>70827503
How do we get rid of you all?
>>70836885
> Doesn't say what field
I'll go ahead here and say im a doctor, with a prior history degree. I'm not going to think you are smart.
>>70835540
Trial by combat is the same principal, though, and that was pretty widespread.
Pic related: when it was a man vs a woman, the man has to fight from the hole.
>>70830492
respect
>>70829579
But there's the small tidbit of one-third dying
