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I'm starting to believe this is bullshit

I'm talking to my liberal friend she asks where is a study that shows there is low iq based on race

I do my research and I do not find any non bias research suggesting that race and iq have a correlation.

No memes in this thread just prove her and convince me to stay red pilled.

No speculation just pure facts with supporting articles.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minnesota_Transracial_Adoption_Study
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>>70560566
Wikipedia not reliable
And dubs
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>>70560425
The Bell Curve isn't a book about race and IQ. It does briefly discuss it though

How about you actually read it instead of
>having an idea
>doing amateur research and giving up
>still not reading the bell curve
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>>70560715
I had this image on my phone so I just used it
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>>70560425

Different dog breeds have different levels of intelligence. This is scientific fact. They are the same species.

But somehow that logic doesn't apply to the animal on the other end of the leash?

Bullshit.

Yes goy every human is 100% equal, the only differences are our skin color, skull size and shape, disease prevalence, and lineage can be tested to within a few percentage points, but the differences stop there!

Don't you dare suggest that these evolutionary differences applied to our largest and most expensive organ, the brain.
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>>70560625
>Wikipedia not reliable

If only there were other, more reliable sources. Also,

>Wikipedia not reliable
Thanks, 70 year-old high school teacher.
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>>70560875
Calm down, Morgan.
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>>70560425
Your command of the English language makes me believe in IQ. Are you drunk? Have your recently emigrated to the US?
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>>70560875
>brain is the largest organ
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>>70560425

On average -

Who are taller.

>Caucasians
>Blacks
>Asians

?

-if you can have physical generalities then you can have mental generalities.
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>>70560879
>>70560948
I stand corrected, I fell for that highl school meme.

Anyone else got more articles? I think I need more to convince this bitch
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Human intelligence up to 75% inheritible
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/science/science-news/12061787/Intelligence-genes-discovered-by-scientists.html

Human intelligence is highly heritable.
http://www.nature.com/mp/journal/v16/n10/abs/mp201185a.html

Scientific consensus is that IQ tests are not racially biased.
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0160289608000305

Very poor Whites are comparably intelligent to very wealthy blacks.
http://www.jbhe.com/features/49_college_admissions-test.html

Privately, intelligence experts hold more hereditarian views than they express in public.
http://www.udel.edu/educ/gottfredson/reprints/1994egalitarianfiction.pdf

Black children raised in White households have similar IQs to black children in black households.
http://psycnet.apa.org/psycinfo/1977-07996-001

The average African IQ is estimated at 79.
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0191886912003741

The average African-American IQ is 85, compared to the average White IQ of 100.
http://www.udel.edu/educ/gottfredson/reprints/1997mainstream.pdf

The white-black gap in SAT scores, a proxy for IQ, is increasing.
http://www.jbhe.com/features/49_college_admissions-test.html

Genes for large brains, linked to high IQ, are common everywhere except Africa.
http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB115040765329081636

Intelligence has at least a 40-50% genetic basis.
http://articles.latimes.com/2011/aug/10/news/la-heb-genetic-study-intelligence-20110809

IQ scores are the best predictor of success in Western society.
http://psychology.uwo.ca/faculty/rushtonpdfs/PPPL1.pdf

IQ is 75% heritable among Whites.
http://psychology.uwo.ca/faculty/rushtonpdfs/PPPL1.pdf
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>>70560875
>the dog analogy
Lmao every thread despite its horrible logic
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>>70560425
>I do my research and I do not find any non bias research suggesting that race and iq have a correlation
Well wtf do you consider "biased"?
Literally any study done on the subject is blasted as "racist," so I hope that's not the metric you're using to determine bias.
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>>70561142
Nice links, got any from .gov?
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>>70560625
Do you think that study was conducted by Wikipedia, Mrs. Beecher? Can I go to the bathroom?
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>>70560425
Look at this image and tell me there's not a correlation.
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>>70560425
m8 google and you'll find dozens
post her tits and i'll do it for you though
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http://www.udel.edu/educ/gottfredson/reprints/1997mainstream.pdf


Mainstream science on intelligence.
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>>70561288
Racial bias against miscegenation is likely biological in origin.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19422626

Mixed race kids suffer from low self-esteem, social isolation, and poor family dynamics.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1448064/

Mixed race children are more likely to have health problems, high stress, smoke, and drink.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1448064/

Mixed race kids suffer from low self-esteem, social isolation, and poor family dynamics.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1448064/

Mixed race children are more likely to have health problems, high stress, smoke, and drink.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1448064/

LTA4H, or “leukotriene A4 hydrolase” is found on chromosome 17. An allele of this gene increases the risk of heart attack (the #1 cause of death in America) in Blacks by more than 250%, but only 16% in Whites. The 30% of Whites with this allele have counteracting genes, while the 6% of Black Americans who obtained it through race mixing do not.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16282974
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>>70560425
>I do my research and I do not find any non bias research suggesting that race and iq have a correlation.
>There's picture of one within the picture you posted.
This is bait.
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>>70561239
Well despite being a crappy analogy it's holds some truth. The fact is Humans were never studied at the same level Animals are.
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>>70560425
http://pastebin.com/zapWyu7A
here you go
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>>70560425
You shouldn't write an essay about topic as difficult as IQ without proper scientific knowledge. It'll make you look more of an retard.
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>>70561239

Explain where the logic falls short.

Dogs are the same species. They can interbreed.

Dogs split from wolves less than 10,000 years ago. Humans split from each other over 70,000 years ago.

Dog breeds have unmistakably distinct temperaments, appearances, and levels of intelligence.

Explain where the logic falls short.

>>70561057

I mean to say: proportionately to the human body, humans have by far the largest brains of any mammal by far. And it is certainly the most expensive, calorie-wise.
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>>70561114

>If there's fluoride in prozac, and there's fluoride in tap water, that must mean the government is poisoning us.
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>>70561608
I'm on my phone out of my house now anyways I'm asking /pol/ out to try and redpill a liberal. Isnt /pol/s goal is to redpill other people?
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>>70561495

Poorest, most deprived region in the world is the stupidest. Colour me surprised.
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>>70561527
>Nevertheless, most mixed-race adolescents are at low risk
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>>70562060

>dindu nuffin
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>>70562060
Stupidest regions of the world are poorest. Colour me suprised
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black people are obviously more prone to short term thinking with extreme violence being their main option of solving issues.
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>>70561977
>I want to red pill someone
This has never ever worked. When you try to convince someone to change their beliefs they only cling more tightly to them.

It doesn't matter if you are right or wrong. They wont listen.
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>>70560425
Thanks doc
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>>70562060

>suggesting that IQ is a result of poverty instead of the other way around

Retard.

Mankind's natural state is poverty. It's no mystery as to where poverty comes from because mankind has always been poor.

The question is how do some people become prosperous, and the question here is why have the highest IQ regions become the MOST prosperous.

Surely there's no correlation dey wuz jest poor an shieet so couldn't get dem good education.
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>>70562216

Not true. Stop this stupid meme.

>every person will hold every single opinion until the end of time and new information will never change that

idiot
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>>70562145

>hyper-intelligent american white man
>couldn't hack it one day on my yam farm

If I have 10 yams, and I sell them for 20 zuzus each, how many zuzus do I have?
I'll wait for you to get an MBA whilst you figure this one that out. I, on the other hand, learnt it by my 16th birthday. The answer is 120 zuzus.
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>>70562216
>hey you should hate everybody non-white

gee I wonder why this doesn't work
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>>70562420
That's 200 zuzus
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>>70562391
People have access to information for themselves now. They choose what they want to see but do go ahead and alienate yourself by showing your power level to some dumb liberal girl you want to impress.

If you really want to change how she things then fuck her. Fuck her, show her how great you are and slowly introduce red pill ideas. Then she will adjust her world view to suit continuing to see you.

Women are not red pilled. They are penis pilled.
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>>70562313

>making the same assumptions anti-vaxers make when they see the autism/vaccine graph.
>Look, they both increase! Vaccines cause autism!
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>>70562470
I don't hate everyone who is non white. I don't even hate the few non whites in Ireland. I do think non whites have an absolutely toxic culture in the US however.
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>>70562577
>he never read the Minnesota twin adoption study
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>>70561869
Lol. /pol/ confirmed for knowing absolutely nothing about science. Not even going to waste my time refuting when you could easily find it via a quick Google search
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>>70562216
Best way to convince someone, at least online, is to strawman the other extreme's position as hard as you can.

Nobody becomes further right wing because of some guy typing in all caps that the jews need to be gassed.
If you read a comment from a frizzy haird mulatto girl saying she can't wait until all white people are bred out of existence it does push you further to the defence of your own people.
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>>70562577
>not an argument
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>>70562562

>200 zuzus

ha ha, I told you you couldn't hack it on my yam farm. I'd demote you to toilet boy straight away. You'd be responsible for cleaning the poo bucket.
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https://lesacreduprintemps19.files.wordpress.com/2012/11/lynn-race-differences-in-intelligence.pdf
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>>70562216

I was red pilled by this board, but have been succesfully red-pilling my friends over the last few months too. It can be done Tadhg/Chris/Alan
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>>70562849
Are Tadhg chris and Alan your friends?
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>>70560875
that's just because purebreds are inbred, and certain species have been inbred for longer.

retard.
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>>70562918
Thats not true at all. Collies are pure breeds and they are recognized as one of the most intelligent dogs you can get.
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>>70562918
Same with German Shepards and Labradors. That is why they are used as working dogs. High intelligence. All pure breeds.
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>>70562470

Of course it works, a lot of white people hate non-whites. Like me, for instance. And we're only gonna get more numerous from now on :)
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>>70562849

>Ay amigos, los negros are biologically more estupido than us, so it's not mean if we call them stupid niggers, because they are actually more stupid! It's just calling a zapato a zapato.

>But Juan, is our country the mexico of Europe because we're biologically inférior?

>Eh je je.... eh no... we just uh.. it's Merkel's fault.
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>>70561942
I pity you.
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>>70562698
>he never read the interpretations
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>>70563190
Its only relatively recently that Spain is relatively poor. In the not too distant past you were the poor Island and they were the rich continental power threatening to annihilate you.
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>>70562724
>Typical liberal response

Never change.
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>>70560715
People chimping out on racism against Murray just prove they don't read the boos they are supposed to "btfo".
Race is mentioned (I won't even say discussed) on a half page in a several hundred pages book.
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>>70563190

>tfw 100% English
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>>70562420
I spit my mocha frappucino all over my dashboard reading this thanks Nigel
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>>70563190
>Being Stupid means you're biologically inferior

Not really desu
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>>70563312

Then we rose above poverty, ran an empire, and are now a top 5 power in the world. There's a reason spaniards flock here to become nannies and dishwashers, whilst we go there to fund their pathetic economy with out holiday homes and obnoxious party tourism.
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>>70563584
They had an empire too bruh. One as large as yours. I cant say why their economy took a bad turn but they did have a civil war. That can sometimes do that. You have had civil wars too.
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>>70562391
This is actually true with the people we're talking about.

The KGB turncoat said it himself: "They will never believe you even if you were to take them to soviet russia and show them people starving to death in gulags."

"only when they are being dragged from their homes and executed will they realize their mistake"
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>>70560425
Stefan Molyneux has plenty of interviews with accomplished professionals on the topic, if you can get her to watch.
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>>70560425
Race can be determined via brain scans.
http://www.cell.com/current-biology/abstract/S0960-9822(15)00671-5

Very poor Whites are comparably intelligent to very wealthy blacks.
http://www.jbhe.com/features/49_college_admissions-test.html

Black children raised in White households have similar IQs to black children in black households.
http://psycnet.apa.org/psycinfo/1977-07996-001

The average African IQ is estimated at 79.
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0191886912003741

The average African-American IQ is 85, compared to the average White IQ of 100.
http://www.udel.edu/educ/gottfredson/reprints/1997mainstream.pdf

The white-black gap in SAT scores, a proxy for IQ, is increasing.
http://www.jbhe.com/features/49_college_admissions-test.html

Scientific consensus is that IQ tests are not racially biased.
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0160289608000305

Genes for large brains, linked to high IQ, are common everywhere except Africa.
http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB115040765329081636
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>>70560425
Show her that Aborigines in Australia have an IQ of 60 and anything under 80 is considered mildly retarded.
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>>70562797
1 yam = 20 zuzu

10 yam x 20 zuzu = 200

5x20=100
10x20=200

You are a fucking retard that needs to never breed.
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>>70563584
Spain got fucked hard, long term, by retarded economic policies in the late 16th century. We should teach more about it desu, we are making many of the same retarded mistakes.

>you just don't understand the plan, debt currency is not bad at all
>Ben-Shekel at the university of Toledo has proved that stopping fuck ups with gold shipping will mean you can't use monetary policy as a political tool
>Think of all the gibsmedat you won't be able to give to your subjects
>industry is leaving for France and the Low Countries? Do not care about this Great Go...Sovereign
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>>70560425
Over 2000 genes have been subject to recent (post out-of-africa) evolution.
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/20/science/20adapt.html
1% of Sweden's population is responsible for 63% of their crime.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3969807/

Homicide rates would be 5x higher today if not for medical advancements.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1124155/

Assimilation into a host culture improves well-being.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24364853

Traditional societies have 'very low' rates of suicide.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3067529

Human evolution is unceasing and continues to this day.
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/20/science/20adapt.html?pagewanted=1&_r=1

Blue or grey eyed individuals are smarter and better coordinated.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-476244/Why-blue-eyed-boys-girls-brilliant.html
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This says it all Op. https://www.udel.edu/educ/gottfredson/30years/Rushton-Jensen30years.pdf
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>>70561142
>>70561527
Thanks for all the links. I saved them.
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>>70564653
A sphere is the shape with the largest volume.
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>>70564791
Worth the read
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>>70562243
came here to post this
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>>70564941
And then of course there's the horror stories of the kinds of "beautiful cultures" these primitive people's built
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OP posted just the one post and now the thread is auto filling with infographics and links.
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>>70564468
Makes me want to reread i am legend
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>>70561114
Aren't the tallest countries white?
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>>70565122
It sounds very pseudo scientific if its true or not.
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>>70565668
Yeah, I think even in the US the whites are taller than the blacks, it's just a meme that blacks are tall because they're most common in basketball
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>>70564791
Don't you fucking racists see a trend here? All the poor countries are either on or near the equator. Being in very hot climate makes working almost impossible.
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>>70565122
wow such a rich culture
As white people with no culture we need cultures like this to enrich us and make our lives better
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>>70566156
Australian aboriginals score the lowest on ethnic IQ.
Egypt was a supercivilisation in a warm climate and South African blacks still score roughly 75 on average IQ
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>>70565900
because it's bullshit written by a retard. Aboriginals were pretty diverse. Europeans that came into contact were met with extremes of hospitality and hostility, it depended on the region and that particular tribe's dealings with its neighbors (ie. what relations their tribe was used to with strangers).
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>>70566156
it's more like they didn't have millenia of winter pruning the right side of the curve. This is why asians have more because their populations were pruned even moreso
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>>70560948
>Weinberg
>Waldman
>Levin
>Loehlin
it's like high school all over again
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>>70565668
Some ethnic groups like the masai in Kenya are even taller though
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>>70560566

> "contrary to Levin's and Lynn's assertions, results from the Minnesota Transracial Adoption Study provide little or no conclusive evidence for genetic influences underlying racial differences in intelligence and achievement, " and note that "We think that it is exceedingly implausible that these differences are either entirely genetically based or entirely environmentally based. The true causes of racial-group differences in IQ, or in any other characteristic, are likely to be too complex to be captured by locating them on a single hereditarianism-environmentalism dimension.

". The results of the transracial adoption study can be used to support either a genetic difference hypothesis or an environmental difference one (because the children have visible African ancestry). We should have been agnostic on the conclusions [...]."

>Loehlin (2000) reiterates the confounding problems of the study and notes that both genetic and environmental interpretations are possible. He further offers another possible explanation of the results, namely unequal prenatal factors.

This is the best evidence """"race realists"""" can point to in my opinion. Basically, it's a useful study in finding correlation, but it's completely irresponsible to draw conclusions one way or the other because you can't control for most aspects of life, especially LOOKING black or white, the basis of racism.
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>>70562060
>China
>not depraved
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>This whole thread
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>>70564157
>he didn't account for zuzu bandits and VAT
american education
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>>70560425
>No memes in this thread
Heh
>convince me to stay red pilled.
Why would you even consider yourself "red pilled" its such a fucking dumb way of saying "better than anyone else"

Also whats IQ? If a black crackhead can scam you out of some bucks by playing dumb-nigger with you, does that mean he is more intelligent than you? If you respond a math test better than him, does that prove you are more intelligent?
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>>70560425
that's the stuff, thanks doc
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>>70560425
>do not find any non bias research
>has the Bell Curve in the photo
Bait. Who cares, I'm bored.

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Clerkin, Ben. "Why blue-eyed boys (and girls) are so brilliant." Daily Mail, Aug. 20, 2007.
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Fischer, Peter et al. "The ancestor effect: Thinking about our genetic origin enhances intellectual performance." European Journal of Social Psychology 41 (2011).

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>>70567428
>this post
>that flag

like pottery
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>>70560425

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Jackson, Christopher. "What is it Like to Teach Black Students?" Marty Nemko Blog, June 16, 2009.

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>>70567748
convince me that intelligence is not contextual and we can keep talking, i have seen 0 proof in my life that people who can do hard math can read people's intentions, in fact the complete opposite, there is a correlaton between autism and maths skills which goes inversely proportional to the ability to not get scammed
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>>70567082

Keep your head buried in the sand.

The adoption is one out of many pieces of data evincing partial heritability of group differences.

We also have organic correlations (highly heritable ones, such as brain size) pleiotropic traits (e.g. myopia), and differences in executive functioning over a diverse array of studies and tasks, with the disparity increasing in proportion to task complexity and correlation to g (the common statistical variance between tasks)

Not only this, but you have field validity of psychometric measures. Then you have the biological markers of intelligence.

Nobody here argues that a single piece of evidence necessarily generalized, or that the science is totally settled, we're simply pointing out the elephant in the room. Making a perfectly valid hypothesis on ethnic inequality that is swept under the rug for political and moral reasons. That some ethnic groups have some degree of inherited behavioral differences between some other ethnic groups, and this decoupling between any two groups is frequent enough to have some sort of non-local social relevance.
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>>70564941
kek sound pretty familiar

>has no conception of the future or past
>only life in the here and now
>has no concept of compassion

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAoNhacojmM

its funny because in the video the guy only talks about language and draws his conclusion from analyzing it and here you have a lawyer reflecting on his past cases and they come to similar conclusions
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>>70560875
Absolutely this. Darwin himself argued that no one would dispute the mental inequalities between similar ape species, yet liberals will immediately dispute this fact out of hand in regard to humans.

Liberals are clearly frightened by the idea of a genetic basis for intelligence because they know it will result in societies where racial dominance exists. Unfortunately for them, it already does, both within societies and between.
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>>70560625
The study itself was not created by wikipedia. You are an idiot.
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>>70560875
>compares humans to dogs
>natural selection v artificial
>dogs were bred to preform different specific tasks so varying in 'permitted' intelligence is expected
>false equivalence fallacy

Pretty sure he asked for evidence, I assume scientific or research based, and not falacious logic.
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Alright now time to get serious: how do we establish eugenics effectively without falling into a totalitarian dystopia?
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>>70568226
>using appeal to authority

Darwin didn't get everything right and was wrong on several occasions. His theory was perfected later, he is not infallible.
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>>70568446
promote homosexuality and birth control
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>>70562313
Happen chance...That's all.

Whites just happen to be in a region that wasn't as isolated as Sub-Saharan Africa. This allowed whites to interact with Asian cultures and Muslim cultures. The trading of ideas, values, and information among these groups is what created western society.

If Sub-Saharan Africa wasn't shit-tier in terms of geography, native Africans would have improved their culture through interacting with different groups just like Europe did.
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>>70568556
>chance
There is no such thing as a coincidence m8, only things we don't understand

You can hide from taboos all you like, but you know what ends up happening then? The humans who didn't surpass you because they have extra knowledge that you don't
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>>70568556
Africa is the most resource-rich continent on earth and its inhabitants still live in squalor after millions of years. They're retards.
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>>70568471
I'm pointing to the fact that the liberal argument against evolutionary effects is old. Pop-science was a disease then, and it still is today. At that time it was the religious who challenged Darwin, today it is the ideological.
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>>70568556
jared diamond pls go.
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>>70563285
>he didn't realize that every scientist has to perform kabuki theater when presenting results confirming niggers as subhumans
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>>70568556
>region that wasn't as isolated as Sub-Saharan Africa

kek, africa was and still is the most resource rich continent and the climate is very preferable.

you know in the north when you failed to actually save resources over the summer will result in the very likely hood all the individuals dieing in the winter of starvation, no such things as winter and summer, in the central African regions food is available all year, hence whey they also never learned to farm or plan, because there was no need for that.
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>>70568296
>geographic separation isn't the primary factor in both cases
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>never inventing abstract language
>no words for "half-way", part, portion, etc
>no words for basic moral reasoning
>words like rape, promise, be on time had to introduced by colonizers
>despite centuries of education, still incapable of basic moral reasoning
And yet, this attempt to deny that evolution produced difference in the brain as well as every other part of human anatomy between ecotypes, persists.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2QTDS_qS-Y
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>>70569142
Most people on /pol/ are overly fond of scapegoats or adding a title to evidence so they can just shrug it off.

YECs and you have "popsci"
/pol/ has the Jews.
And feminism has the "patriarchy".

"Popsci" at least brings some evidence, while biased pseudoscience from Wikipedia is all I've seen from the other end.

(Btw I am not a liberal and I personally think that Africans are probably less intelligent but stronger with huge dicks. Your logic is just cringe.)
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>>70569777
waste of triple sevens
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>>70568814
>Coincidence

Are you saying that Europe being a more advantageous piece of land for society building compared to Sub-Saharan Africa was due to the merits of whites?

Interesting...I never knew that whites had the ability to control the terrain of earth.
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>>70569777
>stronger with huge dicks
you mean faster with Jewish porn producers
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>>70563994
>>70561527
>>70561142
WHO ARE YOU BASED POLACKS
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>>70568966
lol, are you retarded?

There was more resources in the earth when early man was walking the planet compared to today, but it doesn't mean anything if they had no demand or knowledge on how to use those resources.
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>>70569777
>"I personally think that Africans are probably less intelligent"

Then what are you expecting? Scientific research to not show this?

If you're just attacking certain biased studies, that's fine. But to dismiss the wealth of studies posted on this thread, while simultaneously agreeing that blacks are mentally deficient? Sounds like you're trying to forge an argument for the sake of argument.
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>>70561142
Scientific consensus is that IQ tests are not racially biased.
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0160289608000305

and

Very poor Whites are comparably intelligent to very wealthy blacks.
http://www.jbhe.com/features/49_college_admissions-test.html

are contradicting each other
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>>70567673
This picture is the most powerful.

Have you ever seen this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmA6Kdy12jU

Only 14% of black COLLEGE GRADUATES can summarize the contents of a newspaper article.

Only 11% of black COLLEGE GRADUATE can understand a bus schedule.
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>>70560425
Whites are the fairest race of all. This is plainly evident. All else is irrelevant. Hitler was right. Charles Darwin was right. They seek to replace whites in their own countries and they have made this very clear.
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>>70570011
>Black culture like running
>white culture like lifting
Whew, that was hard to solve.
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Literally every research I ever read about iq and race showed significant difference
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>>70569331
>kek, africa was and still is the most resource rich continent and the climate is very preferable.

Name me one isolated culture on this fucking planet that was able to produce as much as a culture that had a history of interacting with many different cultures.
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>>70562060

You're begging the question - there are links in this thread which show that IQ is heavily dependent upon genetics and that low IQ is correlated with poverty. That means that the plausible explanation for the correlation is that Africans are stupid and therefore poor - not vice verse
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>>70570669
>Japan
>North Korea
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>>70570422
Yeah, I've seen it. It's beyond depressing, it's beyond enraging. Affirmative action is a betrayal of every race, of those deserving in every group. Liberals and leftists are the most pernicious racial terrorists and manipulators in world history.
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>>70570631
> cultures like to run and lift
Do cultures produce fast and slow twitch muscle fibers?
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>>70568471
How about you look at the reasoning behind what is being said of just dismissing it as argumentum ad verecundiam. First off, he's not a false authority. It's not like a dentist giving financial advise and taking his word for because he's an expert in some field. Let's look at this fallacy from another perspective.

An Appeal to Authority is a fallacy with the following form:

Person A is (claimed to be) an authority on subject S.
Person A makes claim C about subject S.
Therefore, C is true.

You can't blindly accept it, but you also can't blindly dismiss it. There is a train of thought here to explore.

>Darwin himself argued that no one would dispute the mental inequalities between similar ape species

How about you address that instead of screaming Ad Verecundiam.
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>>70571195
White people are getting the advantage too. The ones who should complain are asians. Would you want your country to have only asian doctors?
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>>70561057
it's the organ that uses the most oxygen as well as nutrients from food
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>>70560625

Do you not have a JSTOR account, nigger?

Shit, that study is so old the full text is probably readily available.

Why the fuck am I even talking to you? Anyone that doesn't know how to check wiki citations is a lost cause.
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>>70570948
>Japan

>Japan's economic rise began from a stage of technological backwardness that was demonstrated when Commodore Perry presented them with a gift of a train. Here was their reaction:

>"At first the Japanese watched the train fearfully from a safe distance, and when the engine began to move they uttered cries of astonishment and drew in their breath. Before long they were inspecting it closely, stroking it, and riding on it, and they kept this up throughout the day."

>A century later, the Japanese "bullet train" would be one of the technological wonders of the world, surpassing anything available in the United States. But, before this happened, a major cultural transformation had to take place among the Japanese people. A painful awareness of their own backwardness spread through Japan. Western nations in general and the United States in particular were held up as models to their children. Japanese textbooks urged imitation of Abraham Lincoln and Benjamin Franklin, even more so than Japanese heroes. Many laments about their own shortcomings by the Japanese of that era would today be called "self-hate." But there were no cultural relativists then to tell them that what they had achieved was just as good, in its own way, as what others had. Instead, the Japanese overcame their backwardness, through generations of dedicated work and study, rather than redefining it out of existence.

>Both the British and the Japanese became renowned for their ability to absorb the ideas and the technology of others and to carry them forward to higher levels.

You were saying? Yeah, I thought so you fucking faggot.
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>>70560425

You clearly haven't even tried to do the research. Plenty exists. Niggers are dumb. Find me a peer reviewed journal article that argues the opposite. It can't be done.
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>>70568146

You didn't really refute anything I said though. All of that evidence you cite has plenty of caveats as we both know. I agree a lot of it is swept under the rug for political and moral reasons, but also because the science isn't totally settled, as you agreed. Attacking political correctness and differences in culture/environment is much more useful, effective - just my opinion though.
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>>70571788
Women are getting undue advantage moreso
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Certain things like anthropology can't be studied or published anymore. Check the pol reading list if anyone has it
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>inbred

You mean like the 3rd world?
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just look at every school admission anywhere, they all allow minorities with lower SAT scores and grades to be admitted, why? because they don't get in otherwise.
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>>70560425
Race is the wrong word. It's genetic. research correlation rates in twin studies. IQ is largely determined by genetics. However there are a few factors such as breastfeeding vs formula and child abuse.

The son of Thomas Sowell or Neil Degrasse Tyson is probably smarter than you, even if they're black. Simply because the father (and I assume mother) are in the gifted category.

Blacks do have lower IQ though on average. The idea that the testing is 'biased' is balogna. Low IQ has a pretty high correlation rate to criminal activity, and blacks have a pretty high correlation rate to crime. You do the math.
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>>70572246
Even than at least the Japanese weren't retards. It was a civil place. Advanced it was not but not a shit hole either. There is nothing wrong with copying/learning from other cultures/countries. Everybody does this.

I have a feeling you haven't watched the documentary Empires of Dust? After Belgium left Congo with all the technology ready to use and train tracks ready. Instead of taking it from there and actually pushing forward it went backwards. Japan instead learned and moved forward.
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>>70570407
Racially biased means unfair to jiggaboos and easier to whites. They're saying this isn't actually the case, the tests are fair and the nogs are just mongs.
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>>70572868
Regression to mean. more than likely (despite being undemocratic) the child is brighter than the black average but still not approaching the parent's. I think the fact that even high SES black have offspring within the gap should suggest this
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>>70560425
>Why isn't any research pointing to the obvious

What happened to James Watson for $500

If any researcher tries to prove anything remotely unPC in this day an age he gets ridiculed.

We don't live in the age of science and enlightenment, we live in the age of idiocy and retardation.

Also, pseudo-intellectuals love to throw the "Show me research" meme, even though they have no idea how research is done, nor do they know how to interpret what is or isn't biased research nor how ti interpret the results of said research.
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>>70572933
Stop attempting to derail the argument. FIND me the isolated group that I requested, or don't reply to me all, cock sucker.
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>>70571656
>isssszzzzttaddda

meine seiten
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>>70573236
>We don't live in the age of science and enlightenment, we live in the age of idiocy and retardation.

This is truly frightening for our species. Data and evidence should have no emotional attachment at all. Invalid and unsound conclusions and faulty premises should be scrutinized. To make people ashamed and scared of publishing logical and reasoned articles is doing us absolutely no good from a scientific standpoint. I've heard of people being pushed into anonymity for this reason as a means to circulate their studies. The left's feels are getting in the way of unbiased research, and I want off this ride.
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>>70573894
White people are content to argue, beating their head against the wall of people who aren't interested in science or factual reality at all. They'll let us argue all the way to the collapse of western civilization. What we need to do is talk less, and fight to stop the end of the world.
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>>70562573
This.
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>>70563190
I use means like preliminary guides but judge the individuals.
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>>70561057
Hematopoethic tissue ftw
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>>70568446
We do it privately by mate selection.
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>>70571788
not even close to true

in most respects asians are beneficiaries of affirmative action

in harvard, whites are unrepresented to much more of a degree than asians in relation to their test scores
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>>70569909
>Europe being a more advantageous
Having to deal with harsh winters, potatoe famine, sicknesses and plagues brought by the concentration of people in an organized society, wars, economy, trading, new types of crime and violence, etc, its a lot more than some lions and little rains. You can always get enough rain BY FUCKING MOVING AROUND.

Indians in South Am. were nomadic and never developed a society because they had literally 0 hardships, they would just run around the paradisiac land and take what they wanted from earth and just keep moving and when they went back it had grew again.

European societies had to deal with the fact that moving around not growing up was not a strategy for survival.

In fact, blacks in Africa could do it, so thats why they didn't develop shit.

You are just not puting things into context, you think progress is some sort of expression of the human when its just a strategy for survival, all progress is is response to new types of stress.
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>>70574278
Need to be persuaded that it's a fight worth pursuing. I'm not convinced that it is. Whitey saving this world at his own peril will just end up killing off even more of the people that should be in the gene pool, while those who are stirring this shit sit at the back and risk next to nothing. How many times are we going to do this? We are the cause of all this anyway, remember.
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>>70575196
Asians get their share crowded out by blacks and spics. The ivies would add points to the latter SAT and take away from the Asians. They're suing the schools over this.
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I always believed they were dumber cuz of their culture but damn there's some shit you just can't deny

the difference in crime and intelligence average is way too big to just be something cultural or economical
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>>70575549
>Need to be persuaded that it's a fight worth pursuing
No, you don't need to be persuaded. If it isn't self evident to you that it's a fight worth pursuing, then you aren't one of the people anyone needs to be concerned about. You're literally chaff.
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>>70575789
I understand your response. Me looking for assurance that it's not going to descend back into what is happening now is wishful thinking anyway. History shows us that it's cyclical and we are certainly at a crossroads once again. For now, i'm content to sit back and analyze the proper course of action.
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>>70562208
>Stupidest regions of the world are poorest. Colour me suprised

They are not stupid because they are poor, they are poor because they are stupid
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>>70562313
Well, you gotta see it the other way too
Poverty=food/water privation and diseases=negative effect in the brain of poor little kids
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>>70573621
>my isolated group meme
The moon? It really depends on how much drive the people had. How much curiosity. The whole world is pretty much connected.
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>>70563584

yeah nah, uk is the same as spain, a crumbled empire, except yours is being invaded as we speak
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>>70562914

Wonder if he has another friend called Paddy.
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>>70577392
>I can't cite the evidence, so i'll just shitpost.

Fuck off.
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