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Who here part of the #NeverTrump movement?
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>>70388202
were all for gary johnson here
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>>70388202
Not me.

I'd like to try and save western civilization.
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>>70388202
Go be a faggot somewhere else.
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>>70388202
I know this is a troll thread but this hashtag is pure autism. It's a total bluff and they know it.
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>>70388202

The Senate Conservatives Fund (SCF), a “conservative” fund founded by former Sen. Jim DeMint of South Carolina that backed Cruz in his Senate fight against Obamacare, spent $427,000 to buy copies of radio talk show host Mark Levin’s four-year-old book “Liberty or Tyranny” to distribute to donors – a purchase that should have earned Levin approximately $1 million in royalties.

“The Senate Conservatives Fund (PAC) purchasing massive quantities ($400,000) of Mark Levin’s books in exchange for favorable candidacy political opinion. Conveniently hidden by the radio host who avoids mentioning the financial conflict created,” the blog pointed out.

A few weeks ago Levin said the nevertrump people were insane and idiots. Why the sudden change?
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does anything sound fucking more queer than when an anchor goes "yeah he's part of the #never trump movement"?

I get fucking douche chills every time they say this cringey shit out loud

Always some dyke anchor going "yeah but you never know if they are a "never trump" person"

Literally the most bone chillingly gay meme phrase I have ever heard
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>>70388264
Johnson is my pick in November as well- there's probably a lot of us on here, but the trolling potential that comes with trump memes can't be denied.
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Any #RepbulicansforHillary here?
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>>70388202

I made that decision the moment I heard he was running. Honestly, he'd be more at home in the Democratic primary.
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>>70388202
Me, absolutely. It's sad that this board has become so... trendy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9In0Xf8HH4k
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>>70388700
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>>70388202
levin and beck are cucks
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>>70388202
I used to be a Trump supporter but now I'm part of Cruz's #RatPack
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>>70388645
>>70388264
>Gary "borders are a racist construct of the patriarchy" Johnson
>having any chance at all

If you want your rapefugees so badly, vote Hillary.
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>>70388264
>Gary Johnson.
>The Human Ambion.
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No Trump
No Vote

http://notrumpnovote.org
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So youll be #Shillin4Hillary then? Willing to risk 3 liberal Supreme court judges which will shit on the 2nd amendment, Obamacare, push more sjw shit, and make abortion legal to the age of 3.

Trump is not perfect, but throwing a vote away pouting isnt going to stop the SC fuckery. You cant unfuck that until they die or retire.
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>>70388428
>$427,000 worth of copies
>$1 million in royalties

What is this accounting magic? Shouldn't royalties be, at the maximum, how much copies are bought? Realistically, less considering books cost money to make.
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>>70388202
I hope the #NeverTrump form a suicide pact and go full Jonestown when Trump wins. America, the world really, will be better off without people like Mark (((Levin))), Glenn Beck and Bill Kristol.
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Here.

Trump should not be given the nomination under ANY circumstances, even if he wins a majority of delegates. I hope Paul Ryan runs at the convention and puts this clown show to an end.
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>>70390108

The 427k was from just one guy.
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>>70390108
http://dailycaller.com/2016/04/08/gop-establishment-money-funding-mark-levin-glenn-beck-erick-erickson-to-attack-trump/
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>>70390753
>Linking a conspiracy theory by known retard and liar, Roger Stone.
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>>70388202
#NeverTrump?

Meet #NobodyButTrump.

Enjoy #4YearsOfHillery courtesy of the RNC and Glenn Beck.
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#NobodyButTrump.
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#NobodyButCruz!

Slow and steady wins the delegate race!
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>>70390991
>Conspiracy theory
>Supported by evidence in the form of publicly archived financial transactions

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2016/04/07/the-paid-dc-shills-continue-erick-erickson-now-attacks-paul-ryan-primary-opponent/

Your shill days are coming to an end, shill.
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>>70391892
Boogerboy can't beat Hillery on his best day.
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>>70392219
>ConservativeOuthouse.
>Reliable source.
Lol. I find it funny and pathetic that Trumpkins always project.

>>70392461
Except that he can. It's Trump that would get raped by Clinton in the General.

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2016/images/02/29/rel4b.-.2016.general.pdf
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>>70393395
Boogerboy can't beat Trump.
How is he going to beat Hillery?

Nice logic Cruzer loser.
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>>70393600
>Can't beat Trump.
>Is currently beating Trump.
You Trumplings are pathetic. Cruz is beating Trump through organization. The Primary process isn't a popularity contest, and Donald doesn't get the top prize just because he has a few hundred up on the second placer. He has to WIN 1237 delegates, either on the first ballot or at a contested convention, or he might as well have won nothing at all. If he can't do that, he doesn't deserve the nomination, no matter how much Trumplodytes throw hissy fits over their Messiah not being good enough.
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Me.

My Christian upbringing makes clear to me that God sees no distinctions between men. I believe that Donald Trump encourages racism and is in fact a racist himself.
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>>70388202
I was but I saw my error and am now going to drink cyanide martinis all night... who's with me?
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>>70394136
>bait

>person with the most delegates is the loser
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>>70393395
There's nothing wrong with the link faggot. It's all supported by public documents. Take a hike, you treasonous shill.

>>70394136
>Cruz is beating Trump

Cruz isn't beating Trump. And after NY, he gets mathematically eliminated. Enjoy.
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>>70393395
>muh hardliner cuckservative will somehow beat hillary
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>>70394136
>Cruz is currently beating Trump

Just gas yourself.
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>>70388202
I used to be a Cruzmissle but ever since Cruz found a cow made entirely of butter, I've jumped on the Trump train.

wow
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>>70389888

nobody gives a fuck senpai, trumpers are a lunatic fringe that makes up less than 30% of the party.

go home already

>>70388428

you know a pac has nothing to do with actual gov't money right
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>>70394483

>muh liberal pretending to be a conservative will!

trumpcucks pls go
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>>70394447
>Implying "mathematically eliminated" is the same as being "out of the race".
Retard alert. Trump will be "mathematically eliminated" at the end or midway into May.
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>>70394790
(you)
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>>70394790
nigger he leads the delegates
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>>70394219
God created the races.
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You all could have at least made your cuck thread on /gif/ or /hc/. Some sick fucks could have at least gotten off to it there.
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>>70394852
name one liberal policy
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>>70394790
Yeah that's why he has 2 million more votes than anyone else
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>>70394538
>That denial.
It doesn't matter who has the "most" now, what matters is "who is able to convince enough delegates to back them". Cruz has shown, time and again, that he actually knows how to get delegates and win the long game, whereas Trump assumes that the idiotic "popularity contest" (primary voting) is more important than "being a better manager" through infrastructure building and "get out the vote" efforts. You know, because Trump's strategy has worked out so well in Wisconsin, Utah, North Dakota, and Colorado...
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>>70395681

How will Cruz win in the general?
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>>70395516
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>>70395836
I'm not reading that shit. Name one liberal policy
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>>70395681
>getting rekt by the popular vote and having to suck the party's cock is the long game

nice candidate you got there
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>>70395681
Cruz shills are so funny. You guys actually make me laugh sometimes.

Cruz's strategy at the beginning of the year was to dominate the south through the evangelical vote. He got swept throughout the entire south by Trump (Texas doesn't count, it is not really the south.. it's barely America now). BTFO from Virginia to Florida, from Georgia to Arkansas. And won the evangelical vote, too.

But now Cruz shills go on and on about how Cruz is a great manager, while he sits in second place using his Plan B strategy (go full religious retard) but it is running out of states where people want to hear that backwoods nonsense. Let's see how that plays in NY and California and New Jersey and Connecticut and, you get the idea. Spic loving kike.
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>>70396204
>go full religious retard

This is what I don't fucking get about cruztards

They bash Trump so much, 'oh he can never win" blah blah, do they think a fucking TELEVANGELIST can win any more than he can? In a general election, with moderate voters? Who the fuck are they kidding?

Not just any televangelist, but the BIGGEST one, and who endorses only the most extreme far-right "PURE CONSERVATIVE" views, as stated by himself. So, an extremist political ideologue. How does that work with moderate general election voters?

Hell, the same kind of statements that cruzfags say made Trump unelectable to general election voters, Cruz copied outright! He said the exact same shit!

How does he fucking win? How is he a "more electable" candidate than Trump? Why don't any cruzfags ever fucking answer this?
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http://therightscoop.com/emperor-trumps-angry-that-he-has-to-keep-campaigning-lol/

Lulz.

>>70395773
Judging by that? All he has to do is successfully label Clinton a closet Socialist, which she, as a Democrat, is.

>>70396069
Yeah, President Gore was great! Oh, right. We don't live in a "Democracy" ran by mob rule! We live in a "Democratic Representative Republic", which means the Electoral College is King, and not the Popular Vote of the mob!

>>70396204
The only reason Trump won early on, is because of the heavily divided field. He has only appeared strong because he was hidden and people only got to see him in snippets. Now that he is getting more exposure, people are seeing him for what he really is: a New York big government liberal, pretending to be a Republican by giving lip service to certain hot button issues like immigration or the economy.
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>>70396706
>Judging by that? All he has to do is successfully label Clinton a closet Socialist, which she, as a Democrat, is.

And why couldn't Trump or any other candidate do the same? fucking Gilmore could do that same tactic.

You didn't say a single fucking thing about what it is about CRUZ ALONE that makes him electable.
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>>70396706
>actually equating a religious nutjob that only gets delegates in bumfuck nowhere to Al Gore

lel

>The only reason Trump won early on, is because of the heavily divided field.
Let me guess
t. every political pundit since Fiorina dropped out
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>>70395836

easy, "planned parenthood does some really great things"

tariffs on forigen goods is a bout as 180 on forigen policy from conservatism as you can get

let alone his past liberal leanings and donations

>b-b-b-b-but he's a business man

>>70396595

>70% negative view in all the polling
>more electable than Cruz
>faith in God/abide by the law of the land
>extreme far-right

When will this Trump meme end
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>>70388202

I tip my fedora to you Patriot.
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>>70397007
>70% negative view in all the polling
I wonder if this has something to do with all the media flipping out over him. You know Trump's big ticket policies are pretty close in line with Ted right? The media will do the same shit without Ted being able to wipe it off.

And Ted always acts like the "free media" has made his candidacy viable.
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>>70397007
>b-b-b-b-but he's not a true conservative!

Solid arguments
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>>70397007

How do you think his poll numbers will do when the media goes 24/7 on cruz having "Gays all need to be killed" speakers at his events? Or when Cruz gets any real coverage at all to general election voters?

Do you think people will start to fall in love with him? A televangelist? A preacher? A proselytizer? Do you think he won't get RACIST BIGOT SEXIST RACIST KKK HITLER NAZI HOMOPHOBIC XENOPHOBIC NUKE-CRAZY WARMONGER CLOWN VIOLENT EVIL EVIL EVIL treatment, 24/7? How will Cruz and the GOP effectively deflect that, when they went along with the same shit against Trump themselves even though they shared the same statements on many things?

Christian Evangelicals is one of the most unpopular and unelectable presidential identity people want to vote for. He's not some typical "God trust us" religious president, his entire character image is being "The Uber Southern Evangelical Preacher Figure". That will be the media image he'll get stuck with, that's for sure.

If you say "Well he can change!", well, so can any other fucking candidate. But his "True Trusted Consistent 100% Pure Right Wing Conservative" identity and campaigning will be box office poison to the general election moderate voters.

I mean really, if Cruzfags say Trump is unelectable, Cruz is just as unelectable for the exact same reasons and many many more.
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>>70396595
So, in other words, Cruz now needs to be a moderate? Lol. Why not just nominate Romney or RoboRubio and get it over with? Or, perhaps, is it just because Trumplings are genuinely scared of someone who has actual principles, and isn't just saying things that they want to hear to get elected like Trump?

>>70396884
>And why couldn't Trump or any other candidate do the same?
Gee, I don't know, could it because Cruz has never constantly cheated on multiple wives, hired illegal aliens at his casinos/strip clubs, called women "young and beautiful pieces of ass", slandered the families of multiple opponents, changed his position on immigration overnight, changed his position on abortion five times in a single interview, encourages thuggish intimidation tactics used by Leftists for decades, and hires people who are either racist (Stone), sexist (Lewandowski, Stone, Manaport), or connected to organized crime (Manaport)?
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>>70388202
>basedpair.jpg
>"pairing up" is what gay truckers do in bathrooms
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>>70388202

No republican is against Trump when it's a choice between Hillary and Donald.

anyone who tries to tell you otherwise is a lying cuck.
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>>70397452

It's funny because cruzfags don't relaize that "true conservatism" isn't even fucking popular, how do they expect general election voters to vote for it? Especially when it's a "NO COMPROMISE" extremist version. I mean he's a fucking former tea partier, how will that be tenable to the general population?

Has any fucking cruzfaggot ever even considered these ideas?

>>70397821
>So, in other words, Cruz now needs to be a moderate? Lol. Why not just nominate Romney or RoboRubio and get it over with? Or, perhaps, is it just because Trumplings are genuinely scared of someone who has actual principles, and isn't just saying things that they want to hear to get elected like Trump?

What the fuck are you talking about? I'm asking how he will appeal to GENERAL ELECTION VOTERS. So yes, he will have to fucking moderate himself.

>Gee, I don't know, trump is evil cruz is perfect

Completely missing the point. Explain how Cruz will be able to pivot and make the general base fall in love with him and with 100% Pure Conservatism and Hyper-Religious Evangelism. No talking about Trump or Rubio or Hillary or anyone else allowed. Focus.
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>>70388202
The Neocons (Progressive Republicans / "CONservatives") are going apoplectic over what they fear a true populist like Ross Perot, Ron Paul, or Trump will do once he gets to DC.

Start dismantling their Progressive machine.
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>>70397759
Yeah, but, unlike Donald Trump, Cruz doesn't have the ACTUAL KKK forming Super PACs for him! Oh, and if you think anybody will ever vote for Donald after his affairs are pumped out on the airwaves, you are fucking deluded. And no, those affairs aren't just tabloid smear from a shill rag like the National Enquirer, but from Trump bragging about them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yX5dBzxKNOw

The media has been keeping their powder dry on Donald, but if he becomes the nominee, be prepared to see all of this shit on the airwaves all the damn time. You think he has it bad NOW, when they ignore most of what he has done?
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>>70398065
>It's funny because cruzfags don't relaize that "true conservatism" isn't even fucking popular, how do they expect general election voters to vote for it?

You have no idea how delusional these Cruzcucks really are. The Jewish neocon Mark Levin has been telling them for years that what they need in a general election is a "true conservative" who will plant his feet and not retreat from conservatism, and then sell conservatism to the American people. This is what they actually believe. It's really just more evangelicalism. They're crazy people.

They think Ted Cruz, a ratface creep that sounds like a televangelist/used car salesman, is going to sell to the American people an old, tired brand that everyone thinks they know already. They believe this. To an almost religious pitch.
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>>70397442

>trump's policies are pretty close in line with Ted

No.

>>70397759

Disagree. This is a slam dunk for Cruz. Bernie is a nut and Hillary is not inspiring/hated by most moderates from both parties.

There's 40 years worth of Trump being a douche/flip-flopper for the Dem strategists to kill him with. He will get destroyed in a land slide.

Show me the gays need to be killed speakers

>>70397452

did you miss the prior sentences? or is that too much reading comprehension for a trumper?

>>70397821

>So, in other words, Cruz now needs to be a moderate? Lol. Why not just nominate Romney or RoboRubio and get it over with? Or, perhaps, is it just because Trumplings are genuinely scared of someone who has actual principles, and isn't just saying things that they want to hear to get elected like Trump?

THIS.

/pol/ is delusional, it's like they ignore every time trump changes a stance

>>70398002

nope, 70% of voters have voted against trump in the primaries
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>>70388202
American traitors and whores
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>What the fuck are you talking about? I'm asking how he will appeal to GENERAL ELECTION VOTERS. So yes, he will have to fucking moderate himself.

Yes, because he's done so AWFUL in Wisconsin, devouring most of Rubio's support!

>Explain how Cruz will be able to pivot and make the general base fall in love with him and with 100% Pure Conservatism and Hyper-Religious Evangelism.

Because he is far more honest, and will do exactly what he says he will do.
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>>70398281

http://www.c-span.org/video/?c4545847/senator-ted-cruz-export-import-bank-reauthorization

Listen to this and tell me with a straight face this man shouldn't be president.

I fucking dare you.
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>>70398583
I don't vote for racial minorities, period. Move along, Jew.
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>>70388428

>A few weeks ago Levin said the nevertrump people were insane and idiots. Why the sudden change?

He said it last night too. Levin isn't a nevertrump, he just prefers el rato.
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>>70398265
> You think he has it bad NOW, when they ignore most of what he has done?

So what you're saying is, Cruz has no dirt on him that the Dem media will ever be able to attack him on?

Seriously, are you fucking braindead?

It doens't even have to be fucking true you naive retard. They'll make up a KKK group. It doesn't matter. The point is, Cruz will be seen as an evil slimy villain.

>>70398311
>This is a slam dunk for Cruz. Bernie is a nut and Hillary is not inspiring/hated by most moderates from both parties.
So Trump and any other candidate should be able to win too.

>There's 40 years worth of Trump being a douche/flip-flopper for the Dem strategists to kill him with. He will get destroyed in a land slide.
And being a hyper-religious fundie proselytizing Televangelist Preacher figure who is for 100% Pure True Conservatism With No Compromise is more than enough to kill him with. Hell, just being a Republican is enough for the Dems to kill any GOP candidate with.

So how will Cruz navigate those waters? More "New York Values" talk?

You keep on deflecting saying "Well Trump and Hillary is worse!!!" and refuse to accept basic fucking reality of Cruz many, many flaws as a candidate.
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>>70398265
>muh KKK
>Ben Shapiro
heres your (You)

>>70398311
>did you miss the prior sentences?
So basically
>let alone his past liberal leanings and donations
>tariffs on forigen goods is a bout as 180 on forigen policy from conservatism as you can get

boils down to
>">b-b-b-b-but he's not a true conservative!"

again solid arguments, come back with something better than isnt sperged by a bunch of Cruzkeks
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>>70391892

>slow and steady wins the race

Jeb! "Turtle Boy" Bush said that too.
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>>70398548
>Because he is far more honest, and will do exactly what he says he will do.

And prove that the general election voters want what he says he will do.
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>>70398311
>No.
Retarded.

>cut taxes
>build wall
>deport illegals
>revitalize economy
>kill sandiggers

wow I was so rong

>There's 40 years worth of Trump being a douche/flip-flopper for the Dem strategists to kill him with. He will get destroyed in a land slide.
so consistent he shut the government down, bet that won't come back to bite him
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>>70388202
>mark levin
thats so weird because the jew that sounds just like him is 100% pro trump
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>>70398674
>Levin isn't a nevertrump,
It's on http://www.breitbart.com/
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>>70398846
There's a rumor he was paid
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>>70391356
>appropriating Ron Paul stuff
You're on par with the Bernie cucks trying to make "Its happening" a Bernie thing
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>>70398926
He did the same thing the Jew Shapiro did too. He waited for a specious, trumped up excuse to present itself and he jumped on it as a pretext for going NeverTrump.

Make no mistake, he wanted to go NeverTrump from the get-go, but he didn't have an "honorable" way to do it. Now he does, he thinks. But because Jews don't actually know anything about honor, it's transparent as hell.
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>>70398762

>revitalize economy

nice generalization, care to offer some details that dont include good great and fantastic??

tariffs on foreign goods will do nothing but make me and you pay the difference.

and tell me what candidate runs on not revitalizing the economy
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>>70388202
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>>70398701

it's always

>He has true ideological principles, so obviously everybody will fall in love with him!
>He's a true conservative, so obviously everybody will fall in love with him!

General election voters do not fucking care about conservative principles in the first place, period. Guess what, Sanders is "honest" and "principled" too in that he's an ideologue, doesn't mean the country will suddenly wake up and respect that alone and vote for an Extreme Ideological Purist. It's fucking general election cancer.

Cruz will be able to pivot as well as he can recite outdated popculture movie quotes.

>>70398762
>so consistent he shut the government down, bet that won't come back to bite him

Yup he's flawless guys! The damned media will never be able to attack him, they got nothing on him, the pure good down-south christian conservative politician! You know, the kind america loves? He's amazing! He's the best! He's perfect!

Their only argument is "WELL EVERYONE ELSE IS WORSE!!!!", yeah the media sure won't be shilling for hillary 24/7 even if they have to do interviews from her in prison.

cruz and anybody like cruz will never be president, fucking ever.
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face it guys a significant number of republicans are the Nevertrump type and theres no way republicans can win. Its ogre. Trumps done for /pol/ its time to support someone else.

personally, I'm a cruzmissile now.
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>>70394136
Cruz is winning the nationally televised booger eating and cringy family interaction contests
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>>70399050
So I'm assuming you admit defeat. Face it, the wall alone will hurt him greatly.

also
>so consistent he shut the government down, bet that won't come back to bite him
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>>70399082

Oh and another thing, Cruz has no fucking charisma or media savvy or good visuals, he looks like basically a fucking freak (much like the media calls trump a clown). His showmanism relates entirely to people in the deep south who relate to televangelism. He couldn't even sweep those states himself in the primaries, and he'll get massacred everywhere else, especially in the general.

Doesn't matter what you believe about Trump, Cruz is still general election CANCER, anyone who doesn't see it is fucking deluded
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Levin doesn't talk out of his mouth he talks out of his nose. He needs a directional mic pointed right up his nasal otherwise no one can hear him.
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>>70398616
>I don't vote for racial minorities, period. Move along, Jew.
Well, guess we found another David Duke Dick sucker! I mean, really? When push comes to shove, your reason for voting for Trump are:
>b-b-b-b-b-but muh white racial purity!
Fucking pathetic. Don't breed.

>>70398693
>So what you're saying is, Cruz has no dirt on him that the Dem media will ever be able to attack him on?

I'm not the "braindead" one, sport. The simple fact is, that Ted has magnitudes less dirt on him than Hillary or Donald.

>It doens't even have to be fucking true you naive retard. They'll make up a KKK group. It doesn't matter. The point is, Cruz will be seen as an evil slimy villain.

Yeah, sorry, no. Most Republicans don't trust the media, for one. Also, an imaginary KKK group, that has no proof or sources, just can't beat the real thing that is backing Dear Donald. Made up shit can't beat the real thing, and unfortunately, with both Clinton and Trump, there is more than enough of that pie to go around.
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>>70399150
>trump: i will build a wall, it'll be a great wall, it'll be a real wall

true conservatives: WOW LOOK WHAT THE DEMS ARE SAYING, HE'S SO RADICAL AND RACIST AND BIGOTED AND XENOPHOBIC AND EVIL AND HITLER, HE CAN NEVER WIN!!! UNELECTABLE!!!

>cruz: I will build a wall hehehe squeak squeak

true conservatives: WOW SO ELECTABLE HE WILL SWEEP THE GENERAL WE NEED HIM HE IS PERFECT THE CANDIDATE WE NEEEEED YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY
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I'm not, but I just looked at Melania's Playboy photos and let me tell you, my Priesthood did certainly rise.
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>>70398926
What the fuck?

He has been going on and on, much like Rush Limbaugh, about how #NeverTrump is a vote for Hillary Clinton. He even said something about how illogical it would be to not vote against Clinton in this election considering the massive amount of things that another Clinton administration could continue to change such as justice department appointments, executive orders, and other non-legislative lawmaking functions.


This really does anger me, especially since I fucking spent $60 on his weeknight television program.
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>>70399437
I have dozens of reasons to not support Cruz, Jew. Ranging from his traitor cunt wife, to his the fact that I don't think he's a natural born citizen, to his heretical voodoo religion (Pentecostalism), to his shit tier policies on everything that he didn't copypasta from Trump.

But for me it doesn't matter anyway, because I do not vote for racial minorities. My father didn't either. His father didn't either. And so on. This is a white country founded by whites for whites and I'm not comforting abandoning that founding belief and tradition.

See, that's conservatism. You would not understand it. Because you're a kike.
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>>70399443
>>70399150

you have yet to fucking answer me once this thread

saying I admit defeat when I answer you isnt an answer

awesome
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>>70388403
>I know this is a troll thread but this hashtag is pure autism. It's a total bluff and they know it.
sometimes choosing a lesser evil isnt always a great choice if each choice is really that bad of an outcome
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>>70399705
You can't fucking come back from SHUTTING THE GOVERNMENT DOWN

Everyone fucking hated it and your golden boy was responsible for it.
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>>70388202
People are so mad Trump is winning they're for the system getting rigged to screw him over.
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>>70399949
Those voters just prefer Cruz for some unknowable reason, and are too stupid to realize Cruz isn't running for President.
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>>70397759
>I mean really, if Cruzfags say Trump is unelectable, Cruz is just as unelectable for the exact same reasons and many many more.
according to the average of all poll on rcp, cruz has the best chance to win against dems
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>>70399639
That's not actually conservatism, or even true.
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>>70399437
>The simple fact is, that Ted has magnitudes less dirt on him than Hillary or Donald.

still just comparing him to others, yawn

>Also, an imaginary KKK group, that has no proof or sources, just can't beat the real thing that is backing Dear Donald.

And what happens if/when the KKK endorses Cruz? I mean, he wants a wall and less immigration too, right? You're going to hear reports form Huffpo and Maddow talking about it and it'll be 24/7 headline news for weeks on end.

Cruz is a southern christians. Therefore related to KKK. That will be the media narrative. He's already been heckled as a racist white supremacist in New York. That will be the leading media narrative his entire general election campaign. How will Cruz navigate that? How many thousands of disavowals a day do you think he'll have to do? OIr will he double down like with his New York Values comment? How will he dodge the "KILL THE GAYS" speaker supporter statement?

How will he win the hearts and minds of America while being an ideological purist of an ideology that isn't popular to begin with?

>>70399639

It's hilarious how they think his kooky religious ties (that's the kinds of words they'll use, "kooky", they'll bring up that old Cruz Cult and everything) won'y be used against him in the general election . Because being mormon sure helped romney right?

>>70399862

Cruzmissles basically believe their candidate has no flaws, is 100% perfection, has no dirt or angles of attacks the media could POSSIBLY potentially use on them.

basically they're naive and have been spoiled to death with the massive lack of coverage on them, are stuck in their bubbles of right wing media which are the only people who talk about cruz to begin with.

The lynchpin is this: They really think that once Cruz gets to the generals, the liberal democrat media and pop culture media in general will be nice to him, and he'll be able to survive it. They truly are fucking braindead.
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>>70399862

ok

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2013/09/25/here-is-every-previous-government-shutdown-why-they-happened-and-how-they-ended/

yeah it's never happend before, totally right bro

>>70400095

>let me tell you about your country and it's politics

So basically your argument against cruz is religion. Good one fedora lord.

Why dont you go worry about your dude weed lamo president
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>>70400335
>yeah it's never happend before, totally right bro
It doesn't matter if there was precedent 20 fucking years ago. The democrats will run with that for miles.
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>>70388202
*tips fedora*
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>>70400095

also lol at >thinking the media needs "proof and sources" to destroy candidates

>>70400335
>So basically your argument against cruz is religion.

It's not my argument you fucking retard, again, we're talking about the GENERAL FUCKING ELECTION

BEING A HYPER RELIGIOUS FUNDAMENTALIST EVANGELIST PREACHER PROSELYTIZER IS GENERAL ELECTION POISON

And that's CRUZ'S WHOLE IMAGE

His unfavorabiltiy is constantly growing as well already http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/cruz_favorableunfavorable-3887.html#polls

>>70400499

They really cant fucking face the truth. They can't understand that the media will destroy Cruz.
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>>70400529
>men of superior character
>A man who married a CFR member who advocated a North American union

His wife is more powerful and evil than Cruz himself.
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>>70399639
Hope you enjoy your poor as shit trailer park, hick. Meanwhile, those of us who aren't inbred Klan members, who don't give a flying fuck about race and only character, will continue to support men of superior character over cardboard cutout "racially pure" fakes like that rug-wearing mongoloid you tards vote for.

>But for me it doesn't matter anyway, because I do not vote for racial minorities. My father didn't either. His father didn't either. And so on. This is a white country founded by whites for whites and I'm not comforting abandoning that founding belief and tradition.

Please, do point out where the Constitution only applies to white people. Oh, that's right, you can't, because it applies to everyone, regardless of race or sex or religion. You racialist throwbacks have ruined good societies for thousands of years, and now you are ruining the USA.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=weqQR-NnnIs [Embed]

>>70400095
>still just comparing him to others, yawn

Which, in case you missed the memo, is ALL THAT FUCKING MATTERS IN AN ELECTION! Are you this retarded?

>And what happens if/when the KKK endorses Cruz? I mean, he wants a wall and less immigration too, right?

Judging by this spooge slurper (>>70399639), I can say with 100% accuracy, that they will vote for the blonde, blue-eyed Hillary, rather than Ted.

>Cruz is a southern christians. Therefore related to KKK. That will be the media narrative.

Which would be laughed at as mentally retarded. Even the media isn't THAT retarded, as it would kill their ratings. Also, most of the KKK live in Idaho, currently. I would know, as I live in Washington, right by those mongoloids.
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>>70399639
>But for me it doesn't matter anyway, because I do not vote for racial minorities. My father didn't either. His father didn't either. And so on. This is a white country founded by whites for whites and I'm not comforting abandoning that founding belief and tradition.
>See, that's conservatism. You would not understand it. Because you're a kike.
no that is paleo faggotry

> Ranging from his traitor cunt wife,
do you even know what your talking about
cruz's wife was invited to respond to the speech about a paper written to promote the concept of a NAU. heidi wrote a paragraph btfo the idea bc it would hurt free trade and that free trade is the best system on the planet
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>>70400529

based conservabro

>>70400601

>that's basically Cruz's whole image

The constitution is Teds image.

it's like you literally regurgitate what you see on trumpcuck general.
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>>70400716
>that they will vote for the blonde, blue-eyed Hillary, rather than Ted.

That's not what the media will report on, braindead.

>Even the media isn't THAT retarded, as it would kill their ratings.

It would be great for ratings. Honestly I don't even need to spend 5 seconds thinking of a basic attack plan. Flood the news with some scandals of southern christian conservatives molesting boys or lynching some black guys. Run them side-by-side with Cruz coverage. Media 101.

Tell me, what will happen when the anti-Cruz protests? Cruz already said that "angry protests are the candidates fault" so then that'll be his fault too. The media will destroy him for being so divisive and creation so much anger in the country.

You cruzmissles are like fucking babies.
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>>70400806
>The constitution is Teds image.
Nobody cares about consistent cuckservativism but cuckservatives

The "fiscally conservative" individuals have sold us out at every turn in exchange for power.
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>>70400903

keep regurgitating trumpcuck general
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>>70400972
Keep ignoring the truth.
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>>70400092
Yes it is, on both counts, cuckold. Run along and go service, Jamal.

>>70400716
>Muh post-racial America
>Muh equality
>Content of Character™

This is cuckservative overdrive.
>>70400716
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>>70400806
>The constitution is Teds image.

Ted's image is being a Southern Preacher Conservative. Which is a very unpopular image for general election voters.

That is his image, period. That's his media image. That's his visuals. That's his speech and linguistic style. That's his character and persona.

Once the Berniefags are done for, the entire liberal media sphere - ie. everything but conservative talk show radio, and fox news - will be 24/7 anti-cruz all the time. He will be destroyed. You are an idiot if you think otherwise, and even more of an idiot for not already trying to plan against it. Especially comments like "we'll see how bright sand can glow". Dems will go back decades to find every single "odd" thing Cruz ever said and did and Howie Scream him to death.

No appeals to "true conservatism" or "the constitution" will work, because those aren't popular in general elections. Nobody but a niche of fringe radicals care about "true 100% pure conservatism". Whether you like it or not.
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Why are we even arguing about Cruz and his election chances? He will not be the nominee, and he knows it. He isn't trying to become President anymore.
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why didn't they stop Trump? why are they letting people vote for him and just didn't kick him off the GOP months ago?
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>>70389137
Crowder used to be so likeable.
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Trump is a national embarrissment. All of europe is #baka
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>>70401186
Because that is unamerican to the highest degree. Any natural born citizen who has been a permanent resident for 14+ yrs and is 35+ yrs old can run for president.
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>>70400859
>It would be great for ratings. Honestly I don't even need to spend 5 seconds thinking of a basic attack plan. Flood the news with some scandals of southern christian conservatives molesting boys or lynching some black guys. Run them side-by-side with Cruz coverage. Media 101.

Yes, because that TOTALLY would not get them sued for libel, fired, or disowned by the viewers. It's not like there are LAWS against that kind of shit... Oh, wait, there ARE laws that protect people from slander!

>Tell me, what will happen when the anti-Cruz protests? Cruz already said that "angry protests are the candidates fault" so then that'll be his fault too. The media will destroy him for being so divisive and creation so much anger in the country.

You mean like this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QCbpafD3Pw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6cUDscjrNg
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>>70389137
>so... trendy
you do realize we are the biggest reason why trump got so far right? We rigged every poll before Iowa and we rigged all the debate polls. The results are then aired on every news outlet and trump brags about the polls we rigged. we are the trend.
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>>70401248
The media does that kind of shit all the time because the court system will take too long for proper reconciliation. The media can report falsehoods they know are false and by the time it comes back for them it's too late.

And lol at your cute little anecdotal videos.
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It's sad we're insulted online and off to the point where we have to mask our support of Hillary behind this #nevertrump movement.
I finally feel at home in this thread.
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>>70401084

Oh, and if that isn't his image...the media will make that his image. Good lord cruzmissles must really be fucking naive little babies sheltered from the world.

>>70401149

Well yeah, it's impossible. He can only become the president by the RNC's good graces, and they hate him to death just like they do Trump. I just been trying for weeks to understand how cruzmissles think their candidate can win a general election. They truly do believe Cruz has no flaws. He is perfect. He's the anointed one.

Holy shit, I just remembered about more religious kookery! "THE ANOINTED ONE":will make the rounds mocking him as a fucking insane person who's church thinks he's fucking jesus (the facts don't matter, only the narrative)

>>70401248
>Oh, wait, there ARE laws that protect people from slander!

It's not "slander". They're just showing lots of stories about bad christian conservatives, and then talking about Cruz right after in another 'totally unrelated' segment. Don't you brainless cruzmissles get how media smearing and propaganda works? Don't you fucking understand that he will be fucking MURDERED in a general election by basic fucking democrat tactics like this? Are you so fucking naive and sheltered?

Seriously, how fucking retarded are you people to not even consider how the media will smear Cruz? Talk about a fucking blind spot
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>>70401577
>Seriously, how fucking retarded are you people to not even consider how the media will smear Cruz? Talk about a fucking blind spot
Yes, they are that stupid. Ted likes to say "the media has been handling [Trump] with kid gloves"
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>>70401577
in the rcp averages cruz has a better shot that trump.
also trump will lead to further erosion of the law just in a psuedo conservative light. we need rule of law and justice right now not, nationalism strongman bs like what south america(argentina,Portugal, brazil) do

trump has displayed on several occassions that he has know idea what the constitutions says
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>>70401777
they have though, it happens every election, they do a bit a bashing, but they always wait until after the primary is over to unload on whoever the actual candidate is
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>>70401878
Ted doesn't know the constitution, if he did he'd know he was ineligible for president.

Bill of rights is only part of the constitution
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>>70401971
Yeah fucking right, have you seen the news lately?
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>>70401355
No, actually, I call you Trumplings "trendy" because you are supporting the "cool" candidate.

>>70401359
Uh, no, they really don't. They give out opinions from talking heads, but that is a world of difference from National Enquirer level baseless smears.

>>70401577
>It's not "slander". They're just showing lots of stories about bad christian conservatives, and then talking about Cruz right after in another 'totally unrelated' segment.

Okay, faggot. Put up or shut up. Where are all of these Christians that you keep claiming that talk of murdering gays at Cruz rallies?

>Don't you fucking understand that he will be fucking MURDERED in a general election by basic fucking democrat tactics like this?

Yes, because that TOTALLY won't work on a sleazy New York businessman!
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>>70401971
You're delusional. I've lived through several elections, and never in my entire life have I seen a candidate get bashed as hard, and as often, and as widely, at any stage in any campaign in any election, as Trump has endured so far. Only Pat Buchanan comes closest. He endured a lot, but nothing like Trump has.

If you don't see that then you're just delusional.
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>>70402080
If said baseless smears are still around and making money, doesn't that destroy your argument?
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>>70388264
dude weed lmao
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>>70388442
they are creating the "To Hang" list for us
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>>70402080
>the "cool" candidate
that would be Gutman
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>>70402086
Then you have REALLY poor memory. The media completely ignored Romney in 2012, but as soon as he was the nominee, they ran stories like "he straps dogs to the tops of cars" and is Satan incarnate.

>>70402177
If that were true, then the National Enquirer would be the most successful newspaper on Earth, rather than a widely despised gossip mag.
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>>70402004
file a lawsuit then. i understand your argument but never has this happened before. he was born to american citizens on canadian work visas
>>70402060
>>70402086
no other candidate has been received as much attention as trump other then reagan who was also apart of the media at one point-so everyone already knows who they are, so they have incentive to put trump on the air, and the things he says too

trump is a fool and plays right into the hands of the libs he acts out what he thinks conservatives are as if what they libs say is true.

on the abortion issue he said "a lot of really tough conservatives would agree with me ,there needs to be punishment for the women"

yes it was a hypothetical bs question that he should of known better then to answer but he did answer and made bs up bc there is NO legit conservative that wants to punish the women
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>>70401777

I mean hell, I'm trying to help them! The first straight response I've gotten for weeks was in this thread, which is basically "Ted has no real dirt...the media will NEVER be able to smear him!". My mouth is still agape. I knew they were dumb but not THIS fucking dumb. It's dizzying. They truly are fucking deluded. Cruz is absolute picture of

>>70401878
>in the rcp averages cruz has a better shot that trump.

LISTEN TO ME: THE MEDIA AND SOCIETY HASN'T STARTED TO ACTUALLY FUCKING COVER HIM YET, HE WILL BE FUCKING DESTROYED

>law and justice and constitution and true conservatism and ideological values blah blah
blah blah blah empty words
Elections are all about visuals and image and slogans, Cruz has nothing going for him.

>>70401971

So just like fucking Cruz? Cruz is still not beating Hillary and did a major dip in the past few weeks.

>>70402080
>Okay, faggot. Put up or shut up. Where are all of these Christians that you keep claiming that talk of murdering gays at Cruz rallies?

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/watch/anti-gay-pastor-event-hosts-3-gop-candidates-563178051820

An overlooked story back then, but this will be just one of the many, many anti-cruz 24/7 headline stories that will be running for months on end. They'll do interviews will all of them. Audience member testimonials. A new one every week, to really stretch it out. The whole shebang.

They'll have all sorts of things to show too. Anti-gay Cruz ralliers, confederate flags, you name it, you got it. Maybe even the Westboro Baptist Church will make a guest appearance! All they need is a single quote or selective picture.

This is Media 101.

>Yes, because that TOTALLY won't work on a sleazy New York businessman!
I never said Trump would win it either. But your deflection and dodging suggest you have some fears that Cruz won't either. He's still pretty much untouched.
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>>70402389
Romney suffered nothing, nothing, like the onslaught that has been unleashed on Trump (and his supporters). Now you're just being intellectually dishonest. Typical for a Cruzcuck.

Cuckservatives are the fucking worst.
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>>70388202
lol, stay cuck motherfucker
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>>70402374
Gutman is a big, fat mistake
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>>70388202
youve got to go back
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>>70402428
i get what your saying imagistics is argueably the most important aspect bc we are all fucking retarded media gobling chimps but, trump does more to hurt the usa then good, he is promoting empty nationalism rather then american exceptionalism
old world paleo rather then modern conservatism(no not fags like mcconel or paul ryan)
trump said he would change the laws through his judge appointment-like wtf. if trump wins the constitution will be further obscured

im at the point where i say fuck the imagistics and go on straight principal bc the country has been choosing the lesser evil for decades and it lead us to here
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>>70402389
I wish you had seen our gubernatorial election, it was wall to wall insanity and the lies that came out weren't successfully sued for until the election was over. They can do whatever as long as there's time.
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>>70402450

if Trump is taken out of the picture, who do cruzfags think the media will set their sights on?

I bet cruzfags think that if they and the GOP just deny that they're racists and show the "facts", that that'll dispel the smears!

They truly are fucking idiots!

>>70402416
>muh abortion

CRUZ IS AGAINST ABORTION EVEN IN CASE OF RAPE BABIES

SO ELECTABLE TO GENERAL ELECTION VOTERS, GUYS
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>>70402651
>Implying Ted "Bush 3.0" Cruz is not another lesser of two evils
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>>70402658
They don't understand that Trump is a tank build, and that if they did succeed in taking down the tank, they'd only feel emboldened to ratchet it up against Cruz. Cruzcucks believe that the whole country will feel relieved that Trump is gone and turn to Cruz for guidance. But there's a lot Cruzcucks don't understand. That's why they're cucks.
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I would never vote for Donald Trump, and I encourage my fellow Whites of conscience never to do so either. What America needs is a True Conservative. Trump is a Democrat in disguise. It's totally not the Trotskyite Jews who hijacked the GOP who aren't real Conservatives but are the real American patriots with the nation's best interests in mind. Whoever they finally choose for me is who I will vote for, as a True Conservative and a real American patriot.
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>>70395936
>posts long list of liberal policies
>LOL I'm not reading all that
Trumpkins truly are retarded
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>>70402651
>trump is bad because of these reasons
>im at the point where i say fuck the imagistics and go on straight principal

Yes, that's you and I understand all that, but that's not the majority of the country. Like really, nothing of what you said matters at all to general election voters at fucking all.

General election voters are fucking normies, not political junkies.

It's just like ron paul - the majority of voters won't suddenly go and open their eyes to the glories of libertarianism. And your ideological purity candidate won't work either. He really has no fucking chance.

>>70402836

They've been spoiled to death. It's almost obscene how blindsided they will be come the general. They don't understand how media works.
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>>70402658
Why would you let leftists dictate the topic, abortion comes up you should say fuck off, we have actual problems like ISIS and illegals to worry about.
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>>70402802
cruz btfo the UN+bush, and defeated international treaties which set precedent that congress is more powerful than international agreements

Medillin vs TEXAS

>>70402836
>Cruzcucks believe that the whole country will feel relieved that Trump is gone and turn to Cruz for guidance. But there's a lot Cruzcucks don't understand. That's why they're cucks.
naw i just want to stand on principal rather then voting for "destroy the country forever(clinton) or "get destroyed but maybe be popular and rich again(trump)

our country is on the brink of being gone

if it wasnt for scalia you realize that the first and 2nd amendment would already be gone with right? the dems tried to bring in hate speech bs and get rid hand guns

we are in dangerous times
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>>70403140
If Cruz "btfo" Bush than how come two of the Bush brothers support him with Jeb endorsing him while Neil is the finance manager
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>>70403140
Indeed we are in uniquely dangerous times, which is precisely why we don't need conservatives anywhere near the halls of power right now. All they do is fail because they are cuckolds. They lose every battle, and then line up to morosely shake hands with the victors, like a Little League team of losers. The left perpetually smuggles their values into the "conservative movement" and affixes them there. And then conservatives shame and shout down anyone who doesn't want to accept these new, foreign values.

One needs to look no further than the "civil rights movement" (aka, communism comes to America) and how they were resoundingly defeated and converted.

No thanks. Stay the fuck away.
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>>70403108
>>70402658
>Yes, that's you and I understand all that, but that's not the majority of the country. Like really, nothing of what you said matters at all to general election voters at fucking all.
i know and i dont care, at least i would have voted for the best option, if turmp wins the constitution loses, but there is a chance we would get out of debt but at the cost of losing the country forever.
trump said he would appoint scotus judges "who would look into the clinton emails very seriously" except scotus doesnt do that, fuck

again according to the average cruz has a better chance to win against clinton

>will change though once the primaries are over
i know but i dont give af
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>>70402450
>Romney suffered nothing, nothing, like the onslaught that has been unleashed on Trump (and his supporters).
Were you dropped or shaken as a baby? Poor billionaire baby, Trump, has suffered more because he fucking deserves to. Most of the attacks he gets from the media, are because that manbaby can not resist throwing a temper tantrum when he gets beaten in some way. If he just would have shut up after Arizona, he would have likely had the nomination all wrapped up by now. But, instead, he opened his fat mouth and bashed Ted's wife, defended his retarded campaign manager with lies, and threw a gigantic bitchfit after Wisconsin. He wouldn't be getting attacked this early, forcing the media off of their strategy, if he weren't such an incompetent moron and petulant child.
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>>70403340
Because they have no choice. They loath Cruz for standing up to them, but faced with the self-destructive damage of Trump, they are willing to put that aside.
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>>70403340
bc they are desperate, name one grass roots movement that wasnt co opted by the higher ups
and cruz did btfo bush bc he fought the scotus and won to hold up texas/usa constittuional law HIGHER then the international treaties that are not congress made
>>70403382
i agree, those people are slimey and scared, cruz has not done any of that and even calls out mcconnel for his bs
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>>70403403
>Le meanie orange man gets called a every name every second of every day
>le meanie man gets tired of their shit
Oh oh he is CHILD. TRUMP SO THIN SKIN

Fuck off, I'm done
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>>70397759
Why are you typing so many words in response to reddits chan outreach shills?

They don't actually support cruz because no one under the age of 45 does , these are annoying Bernie cucks shitting up.rhe board
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>>70403128
>Why would you let leftists dictate the topic

The media dictates the topic.

The GOP are called cuckservatives for a reason. They get jerked around by the dems like fucking retards on every single point. They will be worthless and incompetent this general election in terms of deflecting attacks, just as they were in 2008 and 2012. They've lost every fucking fight they've fought. Because they're cucks.

>>70403140

Would you rather stand with principle and lose or live to fight another day?

If Hillary is elected she's not leaving for another 8 years. That means mass hispanic demographic shift do to a massive amnesty bill that makes republicans winning ever again impossible. With the migrant crisis looming, the entire western civilization is under threat of dying out, and we're almost past the point of no return. Which candidates talked about the cologne attacks?

Okay but my basic argument is, a rigid strict ideological purist Evangelist Hyper-Religious preacher figure is not going to ever win over general election voters. He is extremely not electable, even if Trump is also not electable. Cruz needs to either reform his image and campaign, learn how to navigate the media with extreme precision, or really rethink his career options.
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>>70403592
Yeah, how dare I expect maturity and calmness from a President, rather than Obama-like emotional knee jerk whining about "being treated unfairly". Newsflash to Donald Trump: being fucking President isn't about "being treated fairly", it is about what is best for the country, rather than his oversized ego.
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>>70403849
>rather than his oversized ego.

says "the anointed one"
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>>70403907
Cruz isn't running his campaign just to suck his own dick, as though it was his own reality TV show. Nothing says "ego" like running a campaign like it was another season of "The Apprentice".
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>>70403641
nice meta shill
>>70403734
what im saying is if hilary wins we lose immedietly, if trumps wins we lose just later on, but for sure still lose, the congress will go super blue and thats game over, also trump will do a bunch of executive action stuff that is illegal i pressume bc he doesnt know the law
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>>70404076
>what im saying is if hilary wins we lose immedietly, if trumps wins we lose just later on

And Cruz loses too. For all the reasons I've spent so long writing.
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>>70388202

Here. I'm so sick of elections though. It's all one big shitshow reality garbage bullshit where idiots just make promises so they'll get elected.

We should use Athenian democracy and how they chose the senate and shit. It's like jury duty. If you're called, do your part. The only thing that is truly chosen is military commanders. No more career politicians, no more false republic democracy, no more bullshit. Draw some names out of a hat of citizens and then just get the fuck on with it instead of pushing shit around like a bunch of dungbeetles.
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>>70397143
>back to Huffpo
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