LIBERTARIAN FORUM THREAD
FOX BUSINESS CHANNEL 9PM EASTERN
bump; anyone got a stream?
>>70378881
>>>/lgbt/
Who here for McAfee?
>>70379170
What's your problem?
>>70379101
http://www.baqiworld.com/2011/10/watch-fox-business-live/
This stream works for me.
The program just started. Johnson is first.
nvm xfinity has it online live; a better stream would be good for others plus xfinitys livestream fucks up my pc
>>70379310
>You down with McAfee
>Yeah you know me
>>70379310
He's definitely my favorite. Great attitude. Most masculine. Seems to be best connected with the market and regular citizens.
>>70379441
But he's pro immigrant which is a real downside.
Oh God, I forgot about the fire alarm buzzer....
>>70379358
thx i fucking hate the xfinity stream; uses your cpu like nobodys business
>>70379358
Thanks for the link.
>>70379310
Voting for Johnson, personally, but I like McAfee too.
>>70379310
Trump/Mac 2016
what the fuck is this?
they are clapping for each other and nobody is speaking robotic doublespeak?
>can't ban muh muslims
>muh diversity
>un american
what is this cuckfest?
i like mcafee but think hes too crazy to be electable; gary seems chill. austin seems fake
>we have to let Muslims in because it's our fault they want to kill us
Dropped. Fuck off McAfee.
>if they wanted free welfare they would go to europe
>all of europe is one nation
not everyone is a fucking cuck some nations have borders to keep out the trash
>>70379640
It's their first ever "debate". I believe it's mostly just to give the public a chance to discover libertarian candidates.
>>70379751
He's not wrong.
>>70379723
Pretty much. Austin doesn't have the broad appeal, and McAfee will come off as half-baked for some people. Gary is the most groomed for the masses, without sacrificing his own convictions.
did they edit this? just cut to john from nowhere
>>70379867
Yes he is. That makes no sense at all.
>yfw based Trump exposted lolbergtarianism as an ideologically irrelevant fringe movement
ok obviously edited lol they cut to clips of trump
Is there gonna be a sticky?
>>70379934
You wouldn't get pissed off if a foreign nation started bombing your villages and fucking with your nation's sovereignty?
>Lolbertarians
>>70380011
>>70379877
It was previously recorded, so yes.
>>70380030
No.
>>70379310
>>70379396
>>70379441
>>70379576
>>70379723
>US presidential candidate John McAfee has released his manifesto for the 2016 elections, revealing policies that include opening US borders to immigrants
More like John "Refugees welcome" McAfee.
>>70379934
Our foreign policy and war fought in the middle east is very famous for unnecessarily destabilizing and radicalizing the area. Even Trump talks about it.
>>70380054
we can start taking in refugees the same time the saudis and israel takes in refugees... oh wait
>>70380054
That has nothing to do with what our immigration policy should be.
>>70380054
What is the first caliphate
I'll take uneducated opinions for 800 trebek
anyone keeping rapefugees out? missed the beginning before the stream was posted
I hear Bill O'Reilly asked some questions about drugs. Why does he want anything to do with this?
stream: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uIHxf9svvdg
"debates over" all done guys
>>70380305
No.
>>70380375
Not really a debate. More like getting the libertarian party out there, along with educating people on what it is that they believe, along with how they can believe differently even being the same party.
>>70380161
>>70380168
He never said we should openly accept refugees like Europe is doing. He simply said we should't ban immigrants from coming here based on religion.
>>70380474
he was making a joke you goober
Vote Dodge 2016
>>70380474
yeah i get it. it was a joke, one of the ads said debates over
>>70380483
that's basically the same as the other cuck (idk any of their names) pointed out that you can't ask them their religion because that is un-a-a-american
if you aren't going to vet them then you are letting anybody in and that includes ISIS disguised as refugees
I support Marc Allen Feldman more than McAfee, but he isn't present
i'd pay mcafee to read a phonebook
>quoting Jefferson in what you think is a "Jefferson" accent
STOP
"Will you coerce a private company if it saves hundreds of lives?"
>Nope.
This shit is hilarious.
Fucking petersen speaks in bumper stickers oh my god
ar15 for hunting lolol the fuck is he hunting
>>70379310
His antivirus is shit, therefore he's shit.
Petersen lighting up that faggot Johnson.
>>70380926
Canadian geese.
>>70380894
He really isn't very charismatic I'll say.
>>70380894
gotta agree, i swear he writes and practices answers to all possible questions
did we lose sound?
>>70381078
That's about the only reason why I would have a gun. I hate those fucking geese, they shit everywhere.
I would consider myself a libertarian, but what is the chance of any of these people winning at all? like two people are there.
>>70381139
Me too
>>70381160
Gary has 11℅ or something
>>70380993
He hasn't been involved with the company for 20 years, and hates the current program
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKgf5PaBzyg&nohtml5=False
the youtube link is like frozen, the first one posted has no sound
>>70381251
that is true, but he needs 15 to even get in the debate.
>>70381160
People are arguing that if a libertarian gets the opportunity to debate the repub and demo nominee there's a really good chance they could win.
I also think it's great that libertarians are getting their message out there through the MSM in general.
Holy fuck I keked out of my chair when Gary Johnson just literally shouted at Petersen. He's all calm and "dude weed" the whole time, then suddenly "SHUT THE FUCK UP AUSTIN"
Whenever Petersen speaks I cringe. He only appeals to autists like himself
>>70381160
Not likely this year, but with the way the other parties are about to break, next election they have a great shot.
>>70381370
gotta agree
also still no sound and there back, fuq
>>70379568
My CPU is a neuro net processor: a learning computer.
>>70381432
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uIHxf9svvdg
>>70381432
There's two streams listed in the thread.
>>70380334
>>70379358
Peterson is such a nut
AUSTIN SHUT UP
>>70381533
both dont work for me now as i said earlier
DISARM THE FEDS
Who will they pick to lose this election and siphon votes from people who have a shot? I can hardly wait. I swear these clowns are like a strategic wing of the dems and rnc.
>>70381160
Getting just 5% of the popular vote would be a win (government funding that would increase total funding tenfold)
Getting 15% in the polls gets them general election debate access. (There is also a lawsuit aimed at lowering this standard dramatically)
Getting 25% of the popular vote gets them the same funding that Democrats and Republicans get.
They are currently 11% in the polls, although so is Rick Perry on an independent ticket so I think it's just the angry folk saying they'd vote for anything but Hillary or Donald.
>>70381614
That sucks. I think that's on your end though m8.
I hate this faggot
Austin is such a cuck
>>70379751
i was gonna say dear master emporer trump, how about mcafee for vp?
then he said that..
WHAT THE FUCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
I WANT A BASED VP.. and macaffeyyy haz dropped the ball. really, who isn't sucking muslim dick.. stahhp it.
its so fucking hard to fix this country. no decent leadership. all fucking pussies.
someone must invent a time machine, go back and stahp the good goys from faking the halloween contest.
Johnson and McAfee are liberal faggots desu lads.
>>70381694
Did not know all of this. Thank you for the information!
>The 2nd amendment is not for hunting, it is there so we can shoot at tyrants
[LIBERTY INTENSIFIES]
TOO MUCH CLAPPING I CANT STAND IT!!!
![article-2415191-185A43E400000578-982_640x365[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/UbiVFRU.jpg "article-2415191-185A43E400000578-982_640x365[1].jpg")
AP is absolutely right on the predictions thing BTW.
Pic related. Scientists said the ice caps would be gone by now in 2006.
>>70381805
****Johnson and Petersen
Why is it just these three cucks?
Where is Marc Allen Feldman, or Darryl W. Perry
>>70378881
>mfw a shittertarian hated roads, having secure national borders and a strong national defense because they believe that a bunch of drugged up lunatics with guns are a suitable substitute, believed that worshiping the almighty "free market" will magically fix everything and was an emotional child who had severe difficulty in completing simple tasks, instead opting to throw temper tantrums and violently shit their pampers like a little bitch near me
>>70381781
I missed this so far, could this be a decent Trump VP farm team bros? I mean I know we don't want him to choose Cruz so, perhaps some libertarians to increase our libertay?
>>70382197
Why not Rand
my sound on my computer actually fucking died somehow, i assume windows 10 is at fault; gg
>>70382261
rand dropped out didnt he?
>>70378881
No need to watch. Already know how it is
Gary: progressive pretending to be a libertarian
Mcafee: a raging lunatic who has nuggets of wisdom
Peterson: an okay candidate who needs about 30 more years to grow up.
>>70381924
i was there
they told us to do that
we said in the first part we were to low energy
>>70382322
>assuming anything
>>70382458
i mean windows 10 decided to install the wrong wifi driver 2 days ago
>>70382396
I'll agree to this.
Austin "Shooting tyrants and the fed in the face" Petersen is the best candidate held back by his youth.
O'REILY CONFIRMED PIN HEAD
HOLY SHIT BTFO HOW WILL HE EVER RECOVER
>>70382531
Install Gentoo
>>70378881
THIS MATTERS
Daniel McAdams: "Don't miss this hilariously embarrassing interview of LP Pres. Candidate Petersen @AP4LP - another ignorant neocon: https://youtu.be/-YQrSCenRMc"
https://twitter.com/DanielLMcAdams/status/718572755952599041
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-YQrSCenRMc&feature=youtu.be
Petersen is a beta cuck loser, and a joke -- even Ron Paul doesn't like him! Sad!
>>70379310
sup?
>FREE HEROIN
WHAT THE FUCK GARY
>>70382412
Jeez, man. I just want to hear their points, not fake "WOOOOOW"s and half assed clapping.
>free heroin
Gary Johnson is just a crazier Bernie Sanders
>>70382661
i didnt say wow much tho
Is Austin autistic?
Gary is just a progressive gee golly fag.
McAfee is a fucko.
>>70378881
Whats a liverterian?
Is that like those people who get less than one percent of the vote?
>>70382322
Unless your sound is physically fried, you could try going to Computer Management, then clicking on
>Services and Applications
>Services
>Windows Audio
>Restart the service
It works on Windows 7. RESULTS MAY VARY WE ARE NOT TO BE HELD LIABLE FOR PENISES STUCK IN HARDDRIVE
>>70382621
You're a cuck.
>>70380054
The west and Islam have never gotten along. Just because the US is the flavor of the month doesn't mean that we are the reason they hate everything not Islam.
This isnt the first time we've had to deal with islamic retarda either
>see: Barbary Wars
>>70382556
I actually think he has a bright future if he'd just shut up a bit, run for rep or senator and mature for a decade or so. I honestly could see him as our first libertarian president.
>>70382658
>>70382708
Libertarianism, not even once.
>>70378881
>all these wasted votes
>>70382781
Kek wtf you talking about
>>70382412
>please clap
I can't believe I actually wasted my vote on Johnson last year
>>70382903
to be far during the break he clarified that he wasn't not in favor of it but not against principalities doing it
>BREE EROIN >:DDD
Mcafee married a chick who prostituted for 10 years? Jesus what a cuck.
>>70378881
Fuck man we could of had Rand. Now we have to chose between socially liberal pussies.
>>70382958
literally this
we all laughed but yeah they told us to do this
>>70383046
Rand seriously should be running on the libertarian ticket.
He had no chance as a republican and he could have united all the ideologues who claim to be libertarian.
he might not have won this time but he would have definitely broken 10% imo.
>>70382197
none of them would be a good VP for anyone.
Guy on left is literally autistic (swaying side to side as he talks, looking around, trying to say "well the law is that congress decides" when asked what HIS opinions are on something like the environmental protection agency.
Mcafee is a fucking nutjob. "the environment will be better off with zero laws." "Catalytic converters to make the air clean give people Cancer!"
When reality they are empirically proven to be beneficiail. They take in noxious shit like gasoline fumes and turn it into CO2 and Water vapor.
Donald Trump most definitely doesn't need a VP that's an insane fuck with 110% arrogance. It won't get him anyone who isn't already voting for trump, but it will lose him everyone who was on the fence.
>>70383046
Rand wasn't great though, but we still have Marc Feldman and Darryl Perry.
>>70382786
restarted my computer, all good now. someone at MS doesnt want me getting any "alternative" political views
>>70383053
Seems unnecessary to me. The libertarian party is fundamentally different than the dems and repubs. They shouldn't feel the need to match their absurdity.
>>70383173
>as if a libertarian (lol) has a chance to win 1% of the 1% of the vote
>>70383180
Darryl Perry is a cuck. He runs an organization called 'Muslims for liberty
ugh.
>>70382621
don't use that trash website.
>73% bernie sanders
>71% ted cruz
It gives you essentially the same score for two people who have NO SIMILARITIES IN ANY POSITIONS. It's absolutely worthless.
>>70383298
Didn't Gary get like 7% last election?
>>70383306
Really?
>>70383180
Rand had small goverment libertarian and free market policies along with with an anti refugee anti liberal right wing Conservative view. He was perfect bro
>>70382658
He's talking about letting junkies just end the pain. Look up NAOMI dude. Methadone and suboxone don't work, let the opio sapiens just have their dope and by a miracle, over 70% of them get apartments, jobs, and leave the program and get clean within IIRC 5 years.
Opioids are way different than other drugs and especially dude weed lmao. The people who end up as gutter junkies are sad, broken people who are self medicating.
T. A junkie
>libertarian debate
>no Noam Chomsky in the debate
Why?
>>70383329
its better than anything else, you can look into all the answers
I wonder how long it took Austin to come up with that one.
>starstuff
Fuck you
>>70383362
i think it was just under 1%, which was still a record
>Immigration a good thing
gtfo Johnson
oh nooo, he said "woman's equality"
>>70383502
you can look into the answers and see that it's worse than any other form of determining your personal ranking of candidates.
Stop being a fucking child and make your own decisions instead of letting someone else choose your political choices.
>>70383640
He's not wrong senpai. Problem is WHAT immigrants.
Immigrants with strict immigration policy and NO WELFARE is a bonus to us.
Have they talked about the recent anti-LGBTQI+ laws in NC and Mississippi?
>>70383768
>Problem is WHAT immigrants.
And this is why all anti-immigrant people are racist.
>>70383667
I don't like it either but it can be argued that that sort of rhetoric is a necessary evil to get people interested.
>>70383173
Rand is fighting the fight of turning the Republican party back to its libertarian/small government roots. Destroy the enemy from the inside kind of thing. I believe a coalition between small government conservatives and libertarian invading the Republican party like the blue collar Democrats who support Trump have done is something that can be done. Except there is way too many purism in our ranks. Libertarians are not willing to come together because they dont see the others as true libertarians for simples issues likel liking Jesus or the the fucking cake shit with Johnson
>>70383362
Only 1% (to be fair, it was the best result for the Libertarian party of its whole existence), but current polling shows him at 11%
>>70383378
Yup. http://darrylwperry.com/darryl-w-perry-2016-campaigns-historic-announcement/
>>70383396
>>70383873
I miss randlet.
>>70383825
No, you're the racist fuck if you automatically assume I was talking about nationality and not culture, character, and skill level.
>>70383873
>Rand is fighting the fight of turning the Republican party back to its libertarian/small government roots.
How did that work with Donald Trump?
>>70383755
wut. give me a better site that lists all canidates positions, nevermind that you can compare them to your answers. im not saying take the quiz and vote for the first answer you get
>>70383873
I agree senpai but I think the GOP is a lost cause.
This coming from a guy who is actually a HUGE fan of the old school GOPers, like Calvin Coolidge.
Probably better to let it burn and something rise from the ashes than try to change it.
>>70383770
I'm pretty sure Johnson is for anti-discrimination laws, even when it comes to gays. You can bet Peterson holds the viewpoint consistent with property rights. I don't know where Macafee stands.
lel it's a two party system, what do these fags think they're doing? Do they really believe they could be elected President this year?
>>70379358
the youtube stream ended, going back here; does have sound and showing the talk after now
>>70383825
Epic.
Sub 90 IQ immigrants from Syria or Mexico do not help this country.
I'm not a racist, just honest.
>>70383922
I see. Well let's hope whoever wins can break 10%. I'm voting libertarian but that's only because I'm confident that Trump will win my state.
>>70384053
>I'm pretty sure Johnson is for anti-discrimination laws, even when it comes to gays. You can bet Peterson holds the viewpoint consistent with property rights. I don't know where Macafee stands.
Ok but they all oppose the NC and Mississippi laws right? Can't really say you are for small government if you support laws deny local control over their cities and protects bigots from discrimination under state law.
>>70384138
>Sub 90 IQ immigrants from Syria or Mexico do not help this country.
>1890
>Sub 90 IQ immigrants from Ireland or Italy do not help this country.
When will Fox Business host a Green Party debate?
>>70383640
I would vote Rand if he denounced Reddit
>>70384285
Actually this was the argument that "colleges" made about Asians. Which is why congress and the American people forced coolidge to sign the immigration act of 1924.
Look at asians now.
Thanks for joining me for the Libertarian Forum guys! There's still people on /pol/ that value this kind of stuff and I'm sure I'll be sticking around for a while. Have a good night!
>>70384108
Get 5% of the vote and the party gets goverment funding. Its not about winning its about the party growing and becoming a party that can win elections in the future. Its going to take time and no one expects the LB party to become a contender out of nowhere. But this is how it starts. Johnson has 11% support in the polls so getting 5% of the vote is not a fantasy right now. The political climate in the US is perfect for the rise of LB party.
>>70384456
peace, dont actually come to pol much came here looking for somewhere to talk about the debate
>>70384210
2nd amendment denies a city the power to ban guns. 1st amendment protects bigots.
Jesse Ventura isn't running right?
>>70378881
I liked Gary Johnson and was going to vote for him before I found out that he was only successful in business because his wife was a board member of Intel and funneled him ridiculous contracts. He's a hypocrite anytime he talks about competition and capitalism and meritocracy etc. Fuck him.
>>70384625
>2nd amendment denies a city the power to ban guns. 1st amendment protects bigots.
>Constitution of the USA
>implying the US Constitution and the founding fathers weren't statist as fuck
>>70384456
I came here specifically for this. Thanks or the thread and the links everyone.
>>70384631
Thank God
>Hur dur I'm a libertarian
>Hur dur Bernie is my friend and a great politican
Jump off a cliff Ventura.
>>70384454
Asians haven't been viciously inbred and they don't follow a book that is so vile to women
>>70384610
/pol/ still has some great moments from time to time. This election has made it pretty crazy but there's still a lot of substance hidden underneath the hivemind.
>>70384707
You're welcome. Have a good night!
>>70384481
yup, will be voting for the libertarian canidate. id vote for any random person on the street over hillary, and trump is a fresh meme but i dont want him in the white house
>>70384754
I agree with you senpai.
Those are the type of stuff we need to weed out imo. Ideologies that are not compatible to our society.
I'm just sayinh IQ shouldn't be the deciding factor. There's hard working, high skilled people out their with medium IQs
>>70383179
Finally listening to it, damn I cannot stand Johnsons lisp I can't listen to that for up to 8 years.
Why are these guys such turbo-cucks about immigration holy shit?
>>70384707
me too
>>70384841
>and trump is a fresh meme but i dont want him in the white house
I don't think he'll get the nominee at this point.
>>70384691
State and local laws are also statist. A city that bans people from saying "nigger" is more statist than a world government that allows all hateful speech without punishment.
>>70380080
How ironic.
>tfw all of the Libertarian candidates are cucks that want to let in all the refugees and have open borders
>>70384904
possibly, if the party fucks over the voters; i wouldnt want cruz either. but literally anyone but hillary. bernie is a cuck, he has a couple ok ideas but a lot of really bad ones too
>>70384914
>State and local laws are also statist.
My solution is that is a true libertarian society, if someone is a bigot, they would be beaten up and murdered and their business burned down by minorities.
>>70385145
>but literally anyone but hillary.
How is Hillary any different from Cruz, Trump, etc.?
>>70385014
True. I agree with them on a lot of stuff but they're massive cucks when it comes to Muslim rapefugees and illegals. Sad!
>>70385163
Sounds like the Green Party.
>>70385221
Hillary and Cruz are both offshoots of the Bush/Clinton dynasty. Trump, whatever else he is, is not.
>>70385330
>Trump, whatever else he is, is not.
Trump literally is a Clinton stooge dou.
>>70385309
>Sounds like the Green Party.
How so?
>>70385145
dont get me wrong, stupid, but cruz is far worse than hillary. he supports all the same globalist bullshit but adds a "muh jesus" twist.
in reality thats just a little more oppression than the cunt.
>>70385221
hillarys stance is whatever is most popular at the time. also shes involved in tons of conspiracies and cover ups. i could go on and on about the shit shes done.
lol that clip was great
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrX9Ca7LSyQ
>>70385433
Did all of the people in the Clinton campaign also have strokes and can't look straight without prism glasses, or are they truly, mentally, incapable of coming up with something new?
>>70380483
>He simply said we should't ban immigrants from coming here based on religion.
Why not?
The fact that we bombed them and they hate us says we shouldn't let them in, if you're not a retarded lolbertarian that is.
>>70385509
>but adds a "muh jesus" twist.
Christian sharia!
American Saudi Arabia!
Cruz 2016!
>>70385509
i honestly dont know much about cruz. but i know way too much about hillary. hopefully she gets arrested before november
>>70385742
>The fact that we bombed them and they hate us says we shouldn't let them in, if you're not a retarded lolbertarian that is.
Maybe anon we shouldn't be bombing them anon. Just a suggestion.
>>70385509
>he supports all the same globalist bullshit
nice sources faggotron
cruz fought the UN/bush in medillin vs Texas and won
ahe fought for 1st amendment right in texas and won, as well as 7 times infront of SCOTUS
>>70385931
even so, if we stop bombing them that doesnt right the wrong that we bombed them in the first place
and they'll still be angry
>>70385748
i dont go that far.. but he would lay the inch that could be a mile. although highly doubtful.
all in all... anyone who actually buys into the jew fables and tries to legislate or sway opinion based on it as giant fucking nutjob and should be shot on sight, senpai.
>MFW McAfee is a civilizer
>>70386241
Civillizer?
>>70386297
Coalburner
>>70386099
he's actively trying to be the establishments fall back position during this trump fiasco.
hes a phony fuck through and through. a man who would do anything for power.
he's a fucking shill for anyone and everyone.
>libertarian forum
>>70386403
You didn't respond to the arguments/evidence.
>>70386349
ohhh
black wife
yeah i think that could be good actually because he could say "controversial" things without being called racist. trump mentions anything related to another country and cant escape it.
>>70385239
Same here, that's why I'm on the Trump train. Borders are important, Libertarians need to stop being purists for me to join them.
>>70386349
Ah, I see.
>>70386714
im not aware or educated on your claims so i hold back.
if youd like to provide some sauce that would be great.
>>70378881
thank you anon for this thread today
>>70387631
>illegal rapes and murders teenage girls
>caught and put on trial
>illegal calls for Mexico to help him
>Bush wants the illegal's court case shut down in Texas because of a treaty regarding foreign nationals
>Cruz (as solicitor general of Texas) defeats Bush and co in front of the Supreme Court, illegal gets the needle
And now international court decisions are not considered binding over domestic law.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medellín_v._Texas
>>70388349
interesting. thanks. ill take a gander.
