who was the true hero of WW2 ?
>>70323156
I want to fuck a velociraptor so badly...
The Russians did the most, objectively yes.
but tbf thats only because of Hitler's autistic winter death march
>>70323156
Hitler but for his many graces lacked proper decision making when it really counted
The jews were the true heroes
>>70323156
The banks.
>>70323281
He was already out of fuel and steel,the war was lost either way
He just tried to get some from the russians to be able to win the war
Western front
20 German divisions
Eastern front
200 German divisions
>>70323156
HItler
>>70323156
Change UK into ducks, that basically what they did: fleeing by the sea to hide on their isle.
The Russians did most of the work but it wasn't anything better than sending wave after waves of men to die until the enemy ran out of ammo. Operation Barbarossa, it looked so bad for them at the beginning. Almost 100,000 troops (can you even imagine how this looks in real life) getting captured or taken prisoner at every battle. It was a farce.
They sacrificed the most in my opinion, but they didn't win heroically or tactically, just with brute force and their overwhelming supply of uneducated peasants to die for them. Oh, and also Lend-Lease. Don't forget about that. Something like 45% of Russia's non-armored vehicles were supplied by America.
>>70323156
ordinary people who were sacrificed by their governments.
The Russians won the war in the same way that an infinite amount of bees would stop a chainsaw
The only reason they won was because they kept grinding their massive amount of potato farmers against the Nazis until nothing of them was left
So why do we hail them as heroes for simply having enough useless citizens to throw into the Nazi machine until the gears jammed?
>>70323156
>only French dinosaur has feathers
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>70323156
Russia, you have to be a fucktard to think otherwise ( assuming you had some "good" history classes)
>>70323528
Only after your entire nation collapsed under the weight of it's own cowardice.
Israel :^)
>>70323572
>Lend lease
This... Russians (and other allies for that matter) benefitted from US equipment
>>70323156
USA and the people influencing it joined at the end of WWII in order to control half of Europe, they still do to this day.
>>70323528
British are the ducks
French are the cucks
sounds about right
>>70323399
>out of fuel and steel
>with the whole Europe except for EU on his side
ﾜﾛﾀ
>>70323253
/thread
maybe if the americasaur fed the ussrsaur over 50% of its supplies and weapons for over 4 years
>>70323528
WHITE
>>70323873
FLAG
>Fight against fascism
>URSS
>Not fascist
OK
>>70323156
The communists got flattened when they were on the offensive because the only advantage they had was their winter
The only thing the UK ever did was help US troops get over seas with their navy because Hitler was destroying us with unterseeboots
France was taken over just like Poland so I don't know why they're even on here
The only reason the allies were able to beat Germany was because we mass produced shitty sherman tanks to outnumber the nearly invincible tiger tanks
Hitler would have won WWII if we already had the anti war hippies protesting and forcing car factories to stop mass producing tanks
>>70323253
fpbp
>>70323156
>Any Spanish speaking nation commenting on war after 1700
>>70323935
The hippies were a thing because of how ridiculously unjustifiable the Vietnam War was.
>>70323812
Did they return the junk after the war?
since it was leased?
I bet it stank of pig ass, vomit and littered with cigarette butts and half the shit was broken or taken off.
Russians had to fight 75% of the german's troops on the eastern front
They were blitz'd up to their three main cities: Leningrad, Stalingrad, and Moscow. Had even one of them fallen they could've lost the war
However they had some good generals and a shit ton of troops and managed to hold out against the vastly superior germans who were slowly collapsing on the western front and withdrawing troops to hold back the red army
>charging machine gun nests over and over is """"""""""""""""""""""""helping"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
>>70323156
> I don't speak spic
>Lend Lease
>Russia's suicidal wave of men
>Mass cheap but effective equipment
>weather and land area
Pretty easy to see why Russia was able to repel the Germans eventually. Initially the Germans pushed the Russians shit in with ease. Any western alliance with Germany would have devastated Russia.
>>70323156
The Nazis. If you haven't learned that yet you're fucking lost.
>>70323156
Russian blood, British brains, American brawn.
>>70324028
Elaborate how stopping the spread of communism is unjustified. There were Vietnamese that fought with us so I want to know how it was completely unjustified.
>>70323399
What the fuck are you talking about
>hur the Germans didn't have fuel or steel from the get go
Are you atually retarded or just pretending?
>>70323673
this. My autism intensifies
>>70323399
You know Germans had control of North Africa and were allied with the Muslim Middle East right?
>>70324169
communism was just a politically appropriate bullshit excuse.
Since communism was the boogeyman which most people were dead afraid of, especially these christian suckers.
Corproations like Ford and General Motors needed Vietnam's vast and rich source of rubber.
That was the motive for invading vietnam
>>70324030
Well they didn't return any of the countries they occupied...
>>70324169
I really don't want to get into it with somebody who thinks any part of Vietnam was a smart move on the American's part right now, I haven't even had breakfast yet. Sorry senpai
>>70323156
the axis were, only ones who fought the banks and knew you cannot do good by trying to be 100% good, you just cant. you are cunt by pretending you are smart enough or your group is smart enough to execute justice while being 100% good
depression was the fault of the banks
>i-it was winter!
>i-it was infinite cannon fodder!
>muh land lease!
Love the burger butthurt ITT.
Soviet Union.
The best german divisions i believe around 2 million were sent to the east and got their shit pushed in.
the burgers and us fought off a much smaller force, if the other divisions werent sent to fight the ruskies we would of got BTFO desu.
>>70323935
>The only thing the UK ever did was help US troops get over seas with their navy because Hitler was destroying us with unterseeboots
You say that as if the US could ever had landed a sizeable force in Europe if the British had capitulated.
The Royal Navy allowed the US to concentrate its fleets in the Pacific against Japan, the British north Africa campaign stopped Germany from getting unlimited amounts of oil in the middle east and the battle of Britain wiped out most of Germany's professional Luftwaffe pilots through attrition.
What is it with Americans and thinking they won on their own? It was due to the whole alliance playing their parts...well except for France
>>70324310
Explain why we fought the Korean war then
>>70323156
> /left/pol being nigger tier with history
Is this the WE WUZ BOLZHEVIKZ fanfic version of WWII? I guess Stalin was just being nice not turning right around and devouring the capitalist pigs for desert after the fascist main course?
>>70323156
>throwing wave after-wave of human cannon fodder is "doing more"
lel K
US theaters of war
>western europe
>africa
>pacific ocean
>east asia
Russian theaters of war
>eastern europe
Oh and a nice little land-grab in Manchuria
also
>painting shit-tier giganotosaurus as more bad-ass than Tyrannosaurus
>>70324334
Vietnam was a political fuck fest. The war had political reasoning for happening but it was partly due to communist aggression. I don't understand how people were so ass hurt about the facists in Spain and Poland, which no one cared about the soviets taking.
>let's stop aggression
>just not communist aggresion
>>70323156
Someone doubts?
>>70324438
Plus grabbing more Japanese clay.
>>70324395
No I said as it's the only useful thing you could do considering the RAF got shit on by the Luftwaffe and you didn't have the capability to mass produce armor like us.
Russia, America... both were cunts. There is no real difference if you're European.
>Who was the true hero of WW2
>Implying it was anyone on the left
Don't get me wrong, I'm not bashing the men who fought against the Axis, my grandfather was one of them. I'm just saying that on the political scale, maybe the wrong people won the war.
>>70324438
>oh no we had more theaters of war!
>>70324438
This. Other countries mobilized on a ridiculous level.
>Russia
Literally the eastern front. Congrats on letting the Germans freeze to death? The Finns did the same thing to the Ruskies but even in a more hilarious fashion.
>>70324539
This
Is exactly how I feel. Danke mein komraden
>>70324384
Parkour is a sandnigger thing.
The true french martial art is the Savate stupid anglo.
>france is chicken shit
>>70323156
The heros where the axis who were trying to save us all from the jews and you fucking commie leftist marxist pieces of shit allies ruined it for all of us. GOD DAMN I HATE YOU
>>70324535
also the general opinion here is that if we didn't get involved Hitler would have won that's why people think we were more important than other allies.
We all played our part, but if the U.S. didn't show up undoubtedly Hitler would have won.
>>70324364
The winter did play a part.
>human waves
Are you denying that the Soviet Union threw a fuck ton of men at the axis? Because that's what happened.
>lend lease
It was helpful, read pic related. He details the fuck ton of shit the Soviet Union received in the war against the axis.
>>70324596
>being this upset because great uncle Dmitry got to serve his country for 12 minutes before getting cut in half by an MG-42
>>70323935
A burger with actual history knowledge. I´m in awe.
>>70324596
how does it feel know you wouldn't have been able to mobilize your artillery if it weren't for lend lease.
And even with foreign aid your people still died by the millions
>>70323605
That's only true for the first half of the war, the Soviets managed to win with strategy and tactics later on. The real big thingwas that they were able to modernise their country while being attacked by the Germans.
>>70324245
>>70323673
My pain is known.
>>70324535
>the RAF got shit on by the Luftwaffe
Troll or retard confirmed
without us logistical and material support Russia would have never defeated Germany
US industry won WWII period.
>>70323156
>Ecuador
I guess that explains why you're so fucking retarded
>>70324364
at least I don't live in the second world
>>70324310
>America invaded Vietnam because it needs natural resources!
>drop 20 million gallons of agent orange and destroy 5 million acres of forest
America is always the hero.
>>70324747
My great grandfather was wounded in Stalingrad and returned to the front year later. You are welcome, shitter.
>>70324395
Stop putting words in people's mouths, no rational person thinks they won the war on their own.
>>70324722
>>70324597
>The Finns did the same thing to the Ruskies but even in a more hilarious fashion.
Well, Soviet Union won Winter War...
>>70323156
Hitler. The Soviets were the villains of the story, as became increasingly obvious after the war.
>>70324749
Not really, he's ignoring British contributions in the North African and South East Asian fronts.
>>70324800
what happened here sprinklebread
the legendary RAF defending their capital with flying colors I presume
>>70324743
>It was helpful
Now thats an understatement. Without lend lease, especially the amount of trucks and trains, the soviets would have never been able to push the frontlines through poland to germany. The eastern front would have been a stalement for the soviets at best without lend lease.
>>70324784
Is this a depiction of the great Emu war?
>>70324757
>And even with foreign aid your people still died by the millions
Mostly because Stalin was shitty commander and proved it many times since Civil War. Supplies and unarmored vehicles were really helpful, tanks and planes were shit.
>>70324966
I also left out the fact that we took on the Pacific front by ourselves.
>>70324310
Facism was just a politically appropriate bullshit excuse.
Since facism was the boogeyman which most people were dead afraid of, especially these christian suckers.
Corproations like Hitler and tojo needed Europes vast and rich source of rubber.
That was the motive for declaring all out war on facism. Communism was good boy doh.
>>70324973
Night bombing raids you fucking idiot
>>70323156
Hitler
https://soundcloud.com/couchtruthing/emperor-trump
>>70323156
Nazi dino should be a bit bigger, otherwise the bottom is accurate.
>>70323156
no
the soviets would have capitulated if it weren't for Britain and America.
>>70323935
>The only thing the UK ever did was help US troops get over seas with their navy because Hitler was destroying us with unterseeboots
they also blockaded the vast majority of German ports and played a leading role in pushing the Germans and Italians out of Africa.
>>70324966
aw shut up. You tiny shitty island started to starve (just like in WW1) due to german submarines, your navy never learns. Even churchill said in his massive book series after the war that the german subs nearly forced britain to surrender because all supply lines were fucked.
The US saved your ass both times, for the same reasons, your island lacked food (though you came way closer to starvation in WW1 than in WW2).
>>70323156
Fixed it for you.
>>70324846
They did that when US generals saw this war wasnt going anywhere and first signs that US military may be pulling out appeared.
In an attempt to destroyed the rubber plantations so China and russias wouldnt have much use of them either.
communism was just a wat to get shitloads of butthurt stupid christfaggots to enlist in this war.
It was about money, it's always about money.
>>70324535
>considering the RAF got shit on by the Luftwaffe
How? The BoB was brutal for both sides but the RAF definitely won.
>you didn't have the capability to mass produce armor like us.
That's due to simple geography and timing. The British, Germans and Japanese were fighting a world war for 2 years before the Americans and Russians so were already partially depleted resource wise world war add that to the US's abundance of manpower and resources in the early 40's and it's obvious they could produce more.
Imagine if Germany had conquered Britain and the USSR and then had two years of peace. They're production levels would've matched, if not exceeded the US levels
>>70325081
So Australia doesn't exist? Alright mate.
>>70325168
>implying Britain was restricted to the British Isles
>what was the British Empire
>>70324902
>where he raped women all through to Europe utility he reached the actual people who invaded.
Yeah thank you for your nigger like grandpa.
>>70323713
Not really... UK troops fled as soon as the fight began leaving the continent unscattered. The French continued fighting alone for three weeks, suffered 360k casualties.
>>70325174
Holy shit lel
>>70325087
yeah that's what wars are all about, facing your opponents head on like a redcoated faggot
crafty german air force cheated!!
>>70323281
Russia would have been fucked without Lend Lease and the UK keeping Hitler interested. Stalin was screaming for a second front for years and, were it not for Hitler's weird quest to tie up all of his attenuated supply lines with Stalingrad, things might have been different.
I'd say Britain did more than anyone else in all honesty. Obviously dependent on Lend-Lease too but holding off per-Barbarossa Germany was pretty impressive.
It doesn't matter who won, because the Allies fought the wrong enemy. I wish they had wiped out the Soviets so hard that Communism and Marxism would never plague us like they did today.
>>70325174
TOP FUCKING KEK
THROUGH THE GATES OF HELL
AS WE MAKE OUR WAY TO HEAVEN
>>70324804
Yeah, WWII was the war of industrial might and strategic bombing. Germany and Japan banked on lightning fast strikes to stun the enemy, grab loads of territory, and making peace afterwards. But as anyone who has ever played EU IV can tell you, that's a risky gambit.
Honestly, following WWI, Germany should have known that going into a war without serious long range strike capability is folly.
>>70325246
>implying Britain was restricted to the British Isles
>what was the British Empire
You would still surrender if british mainland starts dying en masse. You think the governemt would just let the british mainland die and fuck off to another colony? Well ok I would say the anglos would do that but mainland britain being lost would have taken you out of the war and with that, the western front for germany => more troops against soviets and africa.
>>70325087
OH THAT CHANGES EVERYTHING!!!!
THROUGH THE NAZI LINES
PRIMO VICTORIA
>>70325267
Rape wasn't more common than in other warzones in history.
ON THE 6TH OF JUNE
ON THE SHORES OF WESTERN EUROPE
1944
D-DAY UPON US!
>>70325419
>Honestly, following WWI, Germany should have known that going into a war without serious long range strike capability is folly.
And still they defeated russia, started staving britain (and were close to surrender) and the troops coming from the east would have overrun france without an enemy ever getting into german territory. Yet, thanks do the belfourt declaration, the US came in and saved UK´s ass.
>>70325081
no we didn't
the brits had loads of troops fighting in south east asia (which too be fair, mostly just kept the Japanese army preoccupied) and the Australians had a navy and army helping US forces too.
>>70325246
Yes, that was what I was implying since they were insignificant enough that them not fighting with us wouldn't have changed the outcome.
>>70324973
Ah yes, Churchill using his own people as a shield. Quite brilliant of that old, fat bastard.
>>70324973
The Blitz wasn't a battle, it was a series of raids that weren't really possible to defend against.
The RAF did similar raids on German cities.
>American education.
>>70325246
>British Empire
A joke in the 20th century who destroyed itself by giving it up. One of the dumbest things I've ever seen.
>>70324743
The war lasted 4+ years and most of the battles weren't fought in winter.
And Germans had to mobilize fucking children to fight the Red Army. It was a largest war in history with millions men fighting on both sides.
>but muh casualties
Yes, if we had burned all German cities to the ground, occupied, starved and built concentration death camps for them, their casualties would have been just as high if not higher. Granted, we had incompetent generals during the first phase of war, but later that changed.
Sure, it was helpful, without a doubt. Except most of it arrived when the tide of war was already changing and we would have won even without it, just with more effort.
>>70323156
Nazi germany ofc.
>>70325269
You'd still be occupied today if we hadn't continued the fight globally alone for the following few years.
>>70323406
Ding ding ding!
Germany never had less than 50 % of their troops on the eastern front and over 75% throughout the war.
The US, Europe & all the UK colonies fought less than the based Soviets and killed less Germans.
The Soviets also had the biggest military. There's a youtube audio of Hitler tripping balls over how many tanks the soviets had.
The winter being the only reason for Hitler's losses is allied propaganda
>>70325155
>Nazi dino should be a bit bigger
Why? German troops were outnumbered in most of the battles they faced.
>>70325455
>this one thing that you prevented is the reason you won the war
>using alternate history as an argument
Hey, I'm all for a German victory in WW2 but your argument is moronic.
>>70325550
Thanks goodness the middle east knows you're actualyl broken pussies and have nothign to fear from yous. :)
You wont have as much luck with them unlike with yurop. :)
>>70323156
That is just pure Quesadilla. What does it say?
>>70324973
So if i post a picture of Pearl Harbour or the Philippines it means the US lost the Pacific Air war right?
>>70325289
Think about the technology back then and how much more difficult it was for fighters and ack ack to bring down bombers under darkness.
I thought we were supposed to be the biggest shitposters on this board. Thanks for taking the title from us you dense cunt.
>>70325174
>noticed filename now
i'm done
>>70323156
obviously the russians
THEY were the ones who marched to Berlin, not the amerishits
>>70323156
Without UK and USA inteligence and supply, would be impossible to USSR hold Nazi-Germany advance on east front.
Without USSR man-power, would be impossible to UK and USA enter in Nazi-Germany controled territories and impossible to win west front.
Simple as that.
>>70325174
>>70325760
The alternative was gasteroid.
>>70323713
>expeditionary force btfo on the mainland
Yeah okay, The Germans gave mercy at Dunkirk and you still act like your force was just leaving because the French fell. The force was fucked up by German troops and armor.
>>70323368
The jews can take the heat.
>>70325174
Saved.
>>70323156
The most work in Europe was made by the Soviet Union (with the help of Allies after 1944). The US made the most work in the Pacific region, however, The Soviet Union also participated in defeating the Japanese forces after the German defeat in Europe. In particular, the Japanese Army in China was defeated by the Red Army.
>Soviets lose millions of men due to autistic Stalin purgin his generals in fear of a coup before the war
>We are meant to sympathise with them becuase of their atrocious military tactics, under the knowledge that they mostly won the war through the winter, sheer manpower, stretched supply line and a healthy dose of resilience in the average Russian soldier
>>70324310
>Corproations like Ford and General Motors needed Vietnam's vast and rich source of rubber.
WE MAKE RUBBER OUT OF THE VAST AMOUNTS OF PETROLEUM WE HAVE YOU FUCKING IDIOT
we went into Vietnam because, first, France asked us to help and then the south Vietnamese asked us to help and we didn't want more pro-soviet states in the region.
>>70325648
Britain still had control over a large amount of territory during WW2.
Your misinformation and memery doesn't change that.
>>70325702
The only broken pussy around here is your bitch's after I fucked her
>>70325648
This is where I lose all respect for you guys, you just use memes to push aside the fact that Britain had imperial troops fighting on virtually every front of the war making huge contributions.
>>70323156
Very funny.
>>70325756
???????
>>70325896
>>70325924
Sorry my countrymen are such fucking idiots.
>>70325845
is this why so many of them are fucking off to yurop from pissrael as Muhammad grows tired of their shit?
>>70325954
You're proving my point mate.
>>70325824
>>70325651
>mobilize children
When you were fucking steam rolling.
>winter
There was a really bad winter almost at the get go which made roads almost into slush. Literally made their trucks and tanks stuck.
>lend lease later
I agree part came later but a shit ton was sent early on, FDR was ready to Suck Stalin dick so it doesn't Suprised me that the dude also ignored all soviet atrocities like Churchill at least cast his doubt about being allies with.
It should be the giant t Rex getting eaten and the smaller ones save him.
>>70323156
Russians of course. We defeated germans. But I thank USA for Japan, they could fuck us up if not the bombs.
>>70325954
>???????
This is exactly what they were thinking when searching for planes
>>70326007
Source? From all sources that I've seen it's the other way around due to increasing Islamic population in Europe.
Reminder that the UK and USA fought the wrong country
>>70325924
>fighting on every continent
Never said that, but keep fighting shit people didn't say to get mad about.
>>70325896
>we had empire
AND YOU STILL GAVE IT UP. Fucking read the post it didn't say you gave it up right after the war, you still just surrendered your empire which was kick ass but fuck you for doing it.
>>70323935
>nearly invincible tiger tanks
They broke down pretty often and were too intricate for average soldiers to repair in tense situations, unlike the Soviet and American tanks
>>70325419
>>70325621
sorry i´ve read your post wrong.
>>70325954
Fucking kek.
>>70325621
>the US came in and saved UK´s ass.
Just like in WWI, when long-range capability was also a massive problem for Germany. But a good strategic bombing campaign would have knocked Britain out of the war, regardless of American help. And it's not like the Nazi's had a problem bombing civilians.
>>70325672
Nazi dino should stand out from Italian and Japanese one.
Make it bigger or make it a different species.
>>70325954
Fucking hell mate, you're really not helping the stereotype here. All those brilliant and smart people in the world at that time and you single handedly have shown a fool proof way of stopping night time raids with 1940s technology
>>70325246
>>implying Britain was restricted to the British Isles
>>what was the British Empire
That is correct. But not too many people in England wanted the war since they were still remembering the aftermath of the first part of World War. When the British troops were surrounded at Dunkirk the British shipping companies refused to make their ships available since they were too afraid of the losses. The public mood was at a tipping point at that time.
A peaceful resolution would still have been possible then.
>>70323156
Gernany
>>70326203
Direct quote
>British Empire
>A joke in the 20th century who destroyed itself by giving it up. One of the dumbest things I've ever seen.
You're basically saying that since the British Empire collapsed AFTER the war, it was useless and did nothing DURING the war.
>>70326258
Another fucking idiot.
What sought of utopia would we be living in if the Allies attacked the Soviet Union with Germany instead of today?
>>70323812
USSR had 3 times less lend lease help than UK.
>>70326365
>A peaceful resolution would still have been possible then.
Yeah well don't blame us, blame our Jew-cucked government
>>70326339
get more lights if you don't want to get nightraded faggot
>>70323156
où sont les preuves
>>70325954
Those shitty lights were literally all they had. They were more of a deterrant to the bombers, a way of saying "We know you're here faggots" than an actual way to assist in shooting them down.
>>70323156
> France
lel
>>70325651
Pfffft, my grandparents had to run from you crazy commie bastards, and they are clear on one thing: The Russian ranks were fucking retarded. When they encountered toilets, they tried to wash themselves in them and complained the water only lasted for such a short time. But what else could they do? They had already shat in the bathtubs...
>>70323156
Yes
The Germany army was already being kicked to shit by Stalin's conscript hordes before Uncle Sam ever stepped in
>>70325845
>>70325954
These things barely did shit. The from 1940-1944 the brits mostly send bombers at night to kill civilians because they couldn´t get through german air defenses during the day.
>>70323156
True/10
>>70326528
This.
Not something to be proud of. But both sides did it.
Reminder
>>70326491
Funny thing about planes is that they move you thick cunt
>tumblr image
I almost envy people who care so much about it that they are ready to praise whoever defeated the Nazis no question asked. Even if whoever did this was their allied first and only changed sides out of convenience.
It's probably the most useless debate about WWII.
>>70323673
came to post this
>>70323156
We were you fucking cunt.
Also
Heil Hitler
>>70325926
It is funny to hear it from Poland after what you have done with Czechoslovakia together with the Germans.
>>70326402
No I didn't, no where in there does it say
>Britain did nothing in the war
>Britain didn't have troos throughout the world fighting in the war
>Britain gave up its empire right after the second world war
What next you'll tell me I said June 12th 1945 England got rid of its empire.
>>70326491
It's literally the same guy every time using middle school tier logic, WEW LAD
>>70323406
>Twenty Divisions
There were seven divisions just on Sicily (2 German, 5 Italian).
And don't get me started on the Italian Campaign.
>>70326271
>good strategic bombing campaign would have knocked Britain out of the war
That´s true. Britain and Germany both made the same mistakes in both wars. Britain got fucked by german submarines and Germany never prepared for a war against Britain (i.e. long range stuff to attack the island). Hitler didn´t want war with britain and Wilhelm II didn´t either. Why did they have to think britain was so important....
>>70326678
Fucking kek.
>>70323156
ss divisions
>>70325220
Except that's fucking wrong, Operation Ranch Hand started in '62, way before the Tet Offensive and a time when the American public thought they could easily win. Come on Poland, I know you wanna think the US as some imperial empire but not everything is about resources
>>70326427
FUCKING KEK.
USA won the war, sorry Putin lovers.
Daily reminder there would be no war if Soviets didn't help Hitler in the firt place
>>70326399
R A R E
A
R
E
cyka blyat
>>70326710
You've got some serious issues with reading comprehension.
>>70326271
>And it's not like the Nazi's had a problem bombing civilians.
Actually it was the brits that started bombing civilians en masse. The london blitz was just a response to that. German luftwaffe focused on precision bombings and not mass bombings. Of course many civilians died in the process but they never bombed civilian areas deliberately (except the london blitz).
>>70323605
>The Russians won the war in the same way that an infinite amount of bees would stop a chainsaw
This gave me a funny mental picture
Gotta give a hand to mother Russia's best defence though: her winter
Saw some Russian folk song on /wsg/ about that and when they're retreating it's the opposite. Actually made me choke up a bit
>>70326171
To be perfectly honest we did, even with /pol/ memes aside.
I think if the full consequences of the war had been known beforehand a shitty little guarantee for Poland would have been disregarded in favour of supporting the Nazis.
Communism was definitely the greater of two evils and every single person in the world realised this the moment the war was over.
If it wasn't for "muh jews" the world would still agree today as well.
>>70326741
NIGHT RAID GET DOWN REDCOAT
>>70324297
>Germans had control of North Africa
Monty begs to differ
>>70325671
again, the soviets were only able to deploy so many tanks because of US and British supplies sent to the soviets
we're talking about a military that couldn't arm or feed huge amounts of its soldiers even when the rest of its allies were sending it arms and food along with the logistical capacity to get to the front lines.
the eastern front was very nearly a stalemate despite all the resources the rest of the allied nations dumped into the USSR.
>>70326751
The most powerful kraut to exist was a cuck for the eternal anglo
>>70326849
Topkek
>Poland can also into space
>>70326900
This confirms my suspicions
>>70323605
They had 10-1 losses with the bulk of losses in the beginning of the war. That's not waves of people sent against the machine guns. It's bad, but it's not how you think bad. They had terrible field officers and they were behind in technology. Still try to gang up 300 vs 30 US army soldiers and see if you will win. They've won.
>>70326746
>7 divisions in the west
No there wasn't you fucking liar.
http://www.axishistory.com/axis-nations/134-campaigns-a-operations/campaigns-a-operations/2085-number-of-german-divisions-by-front-in-world-war-ii
>>70326307
But why should it stand out?
Japan's army at the time was already big since it was trying to occupy parts of China and Italy had a huge number already in Africa.
>>70326849
Implying your horses were superior to German tanks
>>70325621
>the US came in and saved UK´s ass.
dank meme.
Britain could have held out indefinitely against Germany since invasion of mainland Britain was impossible. Even today it's generally agreed among top US generals that only their country could invade Britain due to its geography.
Britain needed help liberating Europe, but not defending itself.
>>70326849
Yeah, it's not like nazis wanted lebensraum or anything.
>>70326868
Are you fucking kidding me? You're the retard who keeps thinking he sees some hidden message. Point out where I said any of the things listed.
>>70326849
There would have been no war if Hitler didn't invade Poland prior to the Winter War.
He could have come to the aid of finland in some anti-commie crusade and the western powers would have been hoping on his dick
>>70326705
>after what you have done with Czechoslovakia together with the Germans
You mean taking back this little piece of land they stole from us in 1920 when we were facing off the Soviet invasion?
Oy vey, what a Shoah.
>>70325220
They 'invaded' Vietnam to stop the spread of communism in South Vietnam, and arguably (if the Gulf of Tonkin was staged) to roll back the frontiers of communism from North Vietnam.
>>70323156
USSR should be a bunch of those little spitting dinosaurs and the USA should be shoveling burgers down their throats and giving them tanks.
USSR literally just threw a bunch of bodies into the Nazi war machine to clog it up rofl.
>>70326467
You forget that the UK also shipped lots of stuff to the USSR. Here have some numbers:
"help" from the USA to USSR via alaska:
>427.284 trucks
>50.501 Jeeps
>595 Ships
>13.303 "towing machines and armored personell carriers"
>35.041 motorcycles
>8.000 "train track building machines"
>1.981 Locomotives
>11.155 Train wagons
>113.300 tons of explosives
>3.820.000 tons of food
>2.317.000 tons of steel
>15.000.000 pairs of boots
>9.681 Fighter airplanes
>3.632 Bombers
Between June 1941 and May 1945, Britain delivered to the USSR:
>3,000+ Hurricanes
>4,000+ other aircraft
>27 naval vessels
>5,218 tanks
>5,000+ anti-tank guns
>4,020 ambulances and trucks
>323 machinery trucks
>2,560 Universal Carriers
>1,721 motorcycles
>£1.15bn worth of aircraft engines
>600 radar and sonar sets
>Hundreds of naval guns
>15 million pairs of boots
90% of the supplies transported by the russians were using American motors. Also around 60% of the supply vehicles (trucks and trains) that the soviets used were from US/UK
More than anything else this probably shortened the war by 2 years.
>In addition, the Achilles heel of the Soviet Army was communication and transport. The Soviet industry simply could not meet the demand either in number or in quality.
>For example, the army lost 58 percent of its vehicles in 1941 alone. To recover these losses, the Allies supplied more than 400,000 vehicles, mainly trucks, to the USSR.
...
>The Allies supplied 1900 locomotives to the USSR, while only 446 locomotives were produced in the country itself during the same period, as well as 11,000 carriages, while only a few more than 1,000 were made in the USSR.
Its quite true to say the trunback of the Germans in 41 was all Russian, but the advances after that were allied underwritten.
http://rbth.com/business/2015/05/08/allies_gave_soviets_130_billion_under_lend-lease_45879.html
>>70326919
Before or after him running back from the Desert Fox?
>>70326849
>Russians wait until Germany conqueres Poland
>they then rush in afterwards to claim a bunch of dirt for themselves
>"RUSSIA STRONK!"
>just forget about how Poland beat the shit out of Russia in 1920s
>proceed to slaughter innocent civilians and blame it on the nazis
Russia really was a piece of shit country.
>>70326705
Together? Like right after we denied them partnership? Now we debate if we should've joined them. But the fact is that we didn't. And that someone else did.
Also Czech were total cunts in 1918. It was unnecessary to take these two or so Polish cities back but it was better for the citizens. At least for some time.
>>70325781
I saw the country flag, I knew my country "comrade" would say something like that.
VIVA FUJIMORI, ROJETES MALNACIDOS.
>>70326849
Daily remider there would be no war if Poland didn't help Hitler to occupy Czechoslovakia.
The war was won with American industry, British spies and Russian blood.
Each nation did their part well.
UK - Fought start to finish, rekt the Luftwaffe during the Battle of Britain, kicked Jerry out of North Africa, helped a bit in Asia (see Burma)
USA - Constantly producing weapons, ammo, vehicles etc. Took most of the brunt during the Pacific campaign against Tojo, and helped liberate Europe
Russia - Tied up most of the German forces in the East, and pushed them back with brute force and sheer numbers.
Things that didn't happen:
>USA winning by themselves
>UK winning by themselves
>Russia winning by themselves
>France actually doing some fighting
Stay mad French cucks.
The USSR would have fell if not for the constant support of the US
>>70323156
Except Russia had nothing to do with the war against Japan or Italy, and the only reason they didn't lose is because of bad strategy by the Germans and us sending them a ton of stuff to fight the Germans. They were basically just sending any dude over there and giving them a gun and going "Go nuts, fella". It was a nightmare.
>>70327090
>Americans say only America could invade Britain
They're wrong. Anyone can invade Britain if they're smart enough. All you need to do is take advantage of the socio-economic conflicts in the country, i.e. scots vs. anglos, welsh vs. anglos, irish vs. anglos, anglos vs. anglos (you get the idea). From there, invading Britain is easy.
>>70327158
>Implying Rommel wasn't defeated in the end
>>70326962
>t. Muhammad Ali
>>70327093
Not only did you help them to ivade us in 1939, but also provided them food and supplies during their campaign in France.
Hitler would have never got where he was without Stalin's help.
>>70326922
>again, the soviets were only able to deploy so many tanks because of US and British supplies sent to the soviets
How so? USSR received 11 thousands tanks by the end of war and they performed quite poorly.
>>70324150
I guess the Manhattan project was a school science project then.
>>70327209
This
>>70326873
>Actually it was the brits that started bombing civilians en masse.
That's not what Rotterdam says. You're welcome to bomb that shithole again, though. It's not a mess of ugly architecture and niggers. Which is probably why loads of people there vote PVV.
So on second thought, don't bomb it. Just come over and remove the niggers.
>>70323156
No discuss
>>70327282
>implying Rommel didn't give you a run for your money.
>>70327090
you needed help not starving
>>70327160
Without at least one ally in the east (permanent or temporary) there would be no WWII.
Didn't know people were still ready to make up excuses for Stalin. Two socialisms working together to subjugate the rest of Europe. A match made in hell.
>>70326849
Daily reminder that there would be no war if the US/UK would have told Poland about the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact to split Poland. Poland would have been forced to negotiate with Germany (which was Hitlers reason to agree to the pact) or get it´s shit pushed in and they feared the soviets like the devil. Yet, US/UK didn´t tell them on purpose to get the war going.
>>70323156
Well the allies beat germany. I guess that makes them heroes? I'm not sure what they, or we, won exactly. A lot of people died and the world was a little worse for it.
>>70327272
What do you mean by this? I literally have no idea what you're on about here m8.
>>70323156
A hero is someone who risks his life for a selfless (presumably good) reason.
>The Germans could gain from the war
>The USA could gain from the war
>The russians both had to defend themselves AND could also gain from the war
>The Japanese Could gain from the war
>The Italians Could gain from the war
Only the UK and France won the war and actually were worse off. they lost all of their colonies, and status in the world.
I guess you could call that heroic, i'd call it idiotic. either way that's the only correct answer to OP's question.
>>70327301
Look up Tube Alloys. It was the British Manhattan project that had to be merged with the Manhattan Project due to a lack of funding and resources. However, Tube Alloys was scientifically way ahead of the Manhattan Project, which is why it was merged and not dropped.
>>70327339
>With what vehicles
>>70327301
What I said was a gross oversimplification of it all, but it's true to an extent. The Manhattan project was a joint effort.
WHAT THE FUCK ABOUT THIS POST IS SPAM?!
I tried fucking everything. Getting rid of the word "dinosaur", "Soviet", "Nazi", just fucking nothing worked.
>>70327419
If you want to invade Britain you've got to weaken it from the inside first - start some civil wars in the country.
>>70323528
>help ally
>ally collapses and surrenders
>retreat from their now occupied lands because it would be retarded to stay in occupied territory where you nor your ally have any dominance
>HURR YOU GUIS R COWARDS
>>70327272
That's absolute bullshit. There's banter and a few nutcases but on the whole people get really patriotic during a war for survival.
At the time the only way the Mainland could've been invaded was lack of home support because of attrition or nuclear weapons
>>70327445
You need all list? You can find in wiki.
>>70324908
>Finland: opposing communism before it was cool
>Eternal ryssä: The Ultimate Evil
>Eternal anglo: Cucks sucking the cock of eternal ryssä
>Eternal Kraut: Greatest ally
>>70323156
jews
americans
soviet kazakhs
>>70327090
>Britain could have held out indefinitely against Germany
Right, because your island didn´t have to import food for survival and the germans didn´t fuck all supply ships. Oh wait, you had to import food since 1870 in order to feed your people.
>>70327390
>Daily reminder that there would be no war if the US/UK would have told Poland about the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact
It was a secret pact you moron.
>Yet, US/UK didn´t tell them on purpose
[citation needed]
>>70326751
>Why did they have to think britain was so important....
Why would they wanted to wage war against them? Adolf Hitler didn't even want to attack France and Wilhelm II tried to stop the military from invading Belgium to get to the French but the Schlieffen Plan was already in effect.
It was literally Europe's suicide pact.
>>70327514
This. I'd happily unite with a mick or jock to save Britain from invasion
>>70327340
>Implying it matters when the end result is a loss
>>70327445
With Soviet armored vehicle and decent share of allied trucks. Your point is?
