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Who do you side with /pol/?
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Of course i side with Israel fuck yeah!
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Iran all the way.
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>>70203518
Iran. Fuck Jews
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>>70203518
Neither.

I hope they destroy each other.
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>>70203667
So Muslims are better then Jews?

wew lad
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>>70203607
Israel is our ally there is no reason any American should hate Israel
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Glass all of the middle east.
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>>70203709
>>70203770

>not answering the question...
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Iran is more legitimate of a country IMO, but israel got the right of conquest after the arabs tried attacking them. So there's that.
If Iran wasent a Shiia theocracy i think it would be a great nation, and we all know whose fault that is by proxy.
So i side with Iran.
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>>70203518
Hey goym what's going on on this thread?


>>70203709
Not before we take you with us :,)


>>70203737
Thx greatest ally
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>>70203518
Iran because at least we know where they stand. I would rather live under a caliphate than live one more day with the Jews controlling us.
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>>70203518

if i have to choose then israel because fuck islam.
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>>70203737
>there is no reason any American should hate Israel
I can think of a few reasons.
The Lavon Affair
The U.S.S. Liberty
and 9/11 all come to mind.

There are a laundry list of others I could mention as well.
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>>70203518
Israel

>>70204173
fuck you kike
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>>70203518
Iran, fuck Israel. I hope they all get wiped out.
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>>70203518
Actually i think that Iran gets unfairly maligned. Those guys are way better than Saudis but somehow America continues to hate on them instead of those goat-fuckers. But in the end i must to go with Israel. More jews there = less jews everywhere else.
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>>70203518
Why do we have to get involved?
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>>70203518
Neither - let both perish. They are the same.
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>>70203717
In this case yes. The best outcome would be mutual destruction of both states
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>>70204801
>and 9/11 all come to mind.

and what did 9/11 have to do with jews. inb4 conspiracy theories.
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>>70205009
9/11 was what Cheney wanted to feed the US military.
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>>70204973
Iran is the only nation in the ME who havent fought in offensive wars for 100+ years while the existence of Israel breeds turmoil and war.
Please explain how they are equivelent.
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>>70203518
Easy, definitely Isralie.
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One is a fanatical country with its chief religious leader wanted to enslave everyone that was not of that religion and has nuclear weapons and was caught with having them compared to the other who has none.


The other is iran.
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>>70203518
israel
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>>70205215
R A R E

A

R

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Wow I no longer recognize this board. The one I knew is gone.
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>>70205188
The whole set of muslims and jews are just the same. A problem.
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Israel, obviously.
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>>70204259
>I would rather live under a caliphate

Muslim detected get the fuck out my country
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>>70203518
Iran
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>>70203607
>>70203667
>>70204259
>>70204910
>>70205511
fucking retards
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>>70203518
That's a tough choice but I'll have to side with the one that at least doesn't follow the word of some pedophile who died thousands of years ago and doesn't regularly engage in suicide bombings. So Israel.
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just nuke the Middle East already
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>>70205568
Israel cuck
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>>70205009

>conspiracy theories


http://wikispooks.com/wiki/9/11:Israel_did_it
http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/fiveisraelis.html
http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/israel_9-11_index.html
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>>70205502
>Muslim detected get the fuck out my country
You don't "get" that the sunni would rather kill the shia than us. The Jews have been pushing this for 10 years now, and most Americans too dumb to notice...
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>>70203518
Neither. Let them settle it themselves. Maybe with a few nukes?
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>>70205619
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>>70204910
>>70204939

Why does /pol/ act like Iran is a modern democracy like Israel? Are you guys autistic?

Israel is the ONLY democracy in the ME

Iran is a savage Muslim theocracy

Go figure /pol/ would rather side with the Islamic theocracy then a actual democracy
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I like Israelis and I like Persians.

I hate Iranian government. They manipulate their populace, flip the bird to the west, and are a blight on their nation.

So this is a no brainer. I'm siding with Jerusalem.
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>>70205708
>muh democracy
Democracy is shit. Also, nobody cares about the politics of Iran. We just want to see Israel nuked into oblivion
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I support the right for both countries to co exist peacefully. Iran is the cradle of civilisation, and Israel is a democracy.
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Iran of course. The iranians are only really concerned with their region whereas israel tries to meddle in everyone's business.
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>>70205649
Sunni or Shia its the same shit both savages
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>>70204259
Iran isn't trying to make a caliphate, they have their own system.
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>>70205826
t. Mohamed
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>>70205826
So if democracy is shit then an Islamic theocracy must be so much better

No wonder the UK is going to be taken over by Muslims in the near future you have allowed it to happen cuck
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as a trump supporting anime masturbator i have to go with israel
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>>70205879
Iran is not the cradle of civilization lol
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>>70203518
Iran without a doubt.
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>>70205799
Exactly even if the people of Iran are somewhat secular the government is definitely radicalized.... its crazy how many people on /pol/ actually support an Islamic Theocracy you cant make this shit up
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>>70205986
>Sunni or Shia its the same shit both savages
It's not, you brainless scumbag. What do you think the "Syria General" thread is about each day?
Why do you think the Saudis, Jews, US are funding ISIS vs Assad, Hezbollah, and Iran's Quds?
Fucking lurk for at least a day before spewing shit all over.
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>>70206125
I didn't say that you stupid cunt. How can "redpilled" Americans still act like cuckservatives?
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>>70205914
>The iranians are only really concerned with their region

Yeah if you just ignore the Iranian involvement in Syria and Libya and Yemen and in the Gaza then you're right
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>>70206048
Israel is a cancer on the west. See >>70205701 but they're so cool because they kill stupid ragheads right?
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>>70203518

Neither of them. Let the daft cunts fight over a bit of land and kill eachother in the process.
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Israel.

Don't particularly care for them supporting Saudi Arabia and funding extreme terrorists, but then are they just following us, or us them?

I like Israeli people better tho, desu. But I do recognize they have spies infiltrating American politics and other such BS that makes them need a good slap. Still, Tel Aviv is basically a Western outpost, so at the end of the day, I'm going with Israel fampai.
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>>70203518
One is filled with sandies, yes Persians still classify as sandniggers, and the other one is basically involved with a racewar against shitskins... Hmmm, it's a hard choice.
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>>70203518

The way the Jews have been treating Trump, going to have to go with Iran on this one.
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>>70205708
>Israel is the ONLY democracy in the ME
Hmm..."Jewish State" is a democracy...you don't get the issues there?
Nevermind Israel's apartheid laws, laws against intermarriage, Jew only roads, towns, etc..
1000x worse than south Africa could ever be, why do you think Israel never gets sanctioned you dumb scumbag?
Place just gets worse by the day. If you're dumb, lurk. If you're a kike yourself, die. I esp love your self righteous shit "It figures pol.." The Jews are war criminals. Warrants out for them by the Hague.
Try reading a news source not owned by kikes.
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>>70203518
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NpnfkMEbyMQ

I am Iranian obviously I support Iran. Iran is a religious tyranny but it is different to Al Qaeda and ISIS.

>They have no desire to spread Shia Islam to the West like the Saudis are doing
>They aren't buildign mosques everywhere in the West
>Shia Muslims integrate well wherever they migrate
>(my parents signed me up to christian classes and australian sports when we migrated here)
>Shia Islam is very pro Christianity. It was the Shiites that saved hundreds of thousands of Armenians and Assyrians from the genocide
>even our most extremistist factions like Khomeinist and Hezbollah like Christians
>most Shia muslims revere Ayatollah Sistani who says Islam has no role in politics and should stay in the mosque

I support Iran in that it is fighting Western influence out of the Middle East. USA and Britain has no business there, MIddle East belongs to Iran

I also think Israel deserves to exist as the homeland for the Jews, they've earned it.

The US government should fuck off and mind it's own business.

I'm sorry for the Europeans for what they are going through. You have to close down your Salafist mosques. they are 95% of the problems from the muslims.
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>>70206308
90% of Muslims are Sunni so of course most extremist's are going to be sunni because they're alot more of them if the tables were turned and 90% of Muslims were shia it would still be the same shit
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>>70205708
The pole IS right though, Iran is much more secular than the Saudis. Honestly, I doubt it'd ever happen, but I share his sentiment. I wish Israel and USA could get along better with Iran than the fucking Saudis.
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>>70206363

Thats actually pretty disgusting.....
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>>70203737
>falling for the greatest ally meme

Good goy
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>>70205708
While Iran dislike the west, at least they are honest about it. Israel portrays itself as a backstabbing friend with a second agenda.
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>>70206478
>Still, Tel Aviv is basically a Western outpost
The exact opposite actually true. "Capitol Hill is Israeli-occupied territory." -Pat Buchanan
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>>70206478
>>70206491

Rational responses that actually make sense
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jews are a meme

I stand with Israel 100%
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>>70205511


.t Achmed from Oslo
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>>70206565
>90% of Muslims are Sunni so of course most extremist's are going to be sunni because they're alot more of them if the tables were turned and 90% of Muslims were shia it would still be the same shit
no, brainless fucker, it's a completely different dynamic. I don't esp like the Shias, but they keep to themselves.
The Sunni are the Saudis, the Turks, the scum all over Europe, the ones in bed with the Jews.
The shia are Assad, Hezbollah Iran, the ones fighting Israel and Jew-controlled lackey American government.
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>>70206550
And if anyone is interested to learn about the values of hardcore Shia Muslims I recommend to find the documentary "Once upon a time in Iran"

It follows a bunch of hardcore shia muslims on a pilgrimage to Iraq. They represent maybe 10-20% of Iranians, most Iranians are the alcohol drinking kind of muslims that don't pray 5 times a day. The 10-20% are very full on muslim but are usually genuine people, even if they are silly.

Anyways here is clip from the documentary

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qmCwn3zOFM

It used to be on youtube but I can't find it. but you can see what our hardcore religious are like
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>>70205914

Dude.

Probably the most misinformed, off the mark thing I've read on pol ever.

Iranian government is meddling in the entire middle east. Undermining Iraq, Lebanon, pissing off the Saudis even. Somehow they've even managed to get the US to award them a 9 figure sum and allow them to start developing nuclear weapons.

Most of the Iranian population hates their government, but they are shit scared and feel they can do nothing about it. Look at the massive diaspora of Persians around the world, with no interest in returning.
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>>70206675
What I meant by outpost is that Tel Aviv culturally is similar to any American or west European city.
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>>70206491
>shitskins
>implying Sweden is not a shitskin country.
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>>70206412
>2.72mb
I'm not that interested in hearing how the jews are really responsible for 9-11 and fluoride in the water.
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>>70206539
If you actually think Israel is as bad as Iran which can legally execute gay people, jail people from different religions and consider's non Muslims as second class citizen then you are either retarded or a Muslim either way fuck off
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>>70206397
Those are all in the middle east so again Iran is only concerned with regional influence. Israel causes the western world far more grief than iran ever has.
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This thread
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>>70206871
I know you're not, dumb goy. Israel are good bois that dindunuffin. Mossad's slogan is "through deception thou shall wage war" but they'd never deceive you!
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People, esp in Europe, see the Marxists blindly supporting Palestine, so they turn against them.
It's actually a great thing. It's the Left eating itself. I'm a 2L, spend all my time volunteering for "Palestinian Rights." Think I like Arabs or Muzzies?
It's the Left turning on the Jews. It's the only good thing to come out of Obama's eight years. Get rid of Zionist Domination pushing all the degeneracy, the rest are just beasts of the field.
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>>70206738

Thnx senpai
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>>70206597
Iran is not more secular then Saudi Arabia they are BOTH Islamic theocracies, a theocracy by definition can not be secular go back to school kid
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>>70203518
/x/ here, this is a tough one because the media has you believe that Israel are the good guys, they're wealthy, and allied with us, but thinking about it, Islam are poor and silent. the most we hear about Islams endeavors is the medias representation of ISIS. Now we all know ISIS is run by the Mosad and we also know that ISIS also stands for Israeli Secret Intelligence Service.
From this I say that Islam knows the truth about the wests involvement in the cover up of extra terrestrials and as a result the US government sanctioned a new crusade, using propaganda to gain public support
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>>70206988
>an intelligence agency practices deception
Who'd have thunk it?
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>>70206627
>jews did 9/11
>it was actually Muslim's
>lets blame the joo's though

/pol/ line of thinking is very similar to how Muslim's think, anything bad a Muslim does its actually a jew behind it
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>>70205215
Of course the wahabbi goat fucker supports jews over shias.

Iran naturally. They are true world civilization with a strong history.

1967 war was based from Israel, I will add.
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>>70206633
>While Iran dislike the west

See you admitted it Iran hates the west therefore they are our enemy its simple
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>>70206920
>If you actually think Israel is as bad as Iran which can legally execute gay people, jail people from different religions and consider's non Muslims as second class citizen then you are either retarded or a Muslim either way fuck off
Israel operates the world's largest open air prison-- Gaza-- and controls imports on all sides.
A month ago, there would be 100 people here shouting you down. That no one else is makes me want to puke.
The Jews are the ones violating intl law, spying on us, subverting governments, USS liberty, hiding war criminals, illegal settlements.
and they make US supply the weapons. They make OUR GOVERNMENT veto every condemnation at the UN. Whatever the Shia are, they mind their fucking business.
Look at who runs Hollywood, look at who runs your media, your banks. count how many Iranians. Then count the Jews. Get back to me.
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>>70206808
You should know better. Read up about the israelis that left the country in a hurry after the Chch earthquakes. They didn't even stop to collect their fellow kike that got crushed by masonry. The iranians don't fuck around in this part of the world but israel does.
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Neither
> BIJI KURDISTAN
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>>70207043
Listen, fag.

I got nothing.
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>>70207119
And the Amerigoys pay the price. What a coincidence that Mossad was connected to 9/11
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>>70207250
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>>70206778
Like i said there are less shia extremist's only because there are less shia, sunni and shia both read the same Quran and they both agree on sharia law, they are not to be trusted unless you are a Muslim
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>>70207127
pol are exactly like Arabs and Iranians. There's no negative connotation to "conspiracy" in these languages and they love conspiracy to anything, it's absolutely normal and isn't frowned upon. popular ones now are that Jews are behind ISIS and USA attacked itself on 9/11. The amount of bullshit people believe astonishes me. pol is the same
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>>70206867

>Saudi
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>>70207193
Iran dislkes USA and Britain, has no issue with anyone else.

Britain tried to colonise Iran for roughly 250 years. USA has been fucking with iran since 1952
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>>70206959
Lets not forget Iran's constant threats to destroy the US, is the US part of their regional sphere?
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>>70207127
The only people arrested on 9/11 were Israelis.

It's like you didn't even read the graphic and instead went ahead and played your victim card.
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>>70207230
this desu.

lot of blind iran hate in this thread.
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>>70207300
>Like i said there are less shia extremist's only because there are less shia, sunni and shia both read the same Quran and they both agree on sharia law, they are not to be trusted unless you are a Muslim
What qualifications do you have? Can you give me a source? The last suspected act of Shia "terrorism" vs the West was the Beirut Barracks during the Lebanese Civil War, and we know that the Jews had foreknowledge and never warned us.
I'm not being paid to teach fucking elementary school. Before you run your fucking mouth, read up on what you're pushing out your ass. Bc you're brainless.
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>>70203518
iran. why will i side with a treacherous kike
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>>70207127
Look up the Lavon Affair.

In 1954, Israeli agents working in Egypt planted bombs in several buildings, including a United States diplomatic facility, and left evidence behind implicating Arabs as the culprits.
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>>70207107
Why do people think that ISIS are actually Jews?

That has to be one of the most stupidest conspiracy theories ive ever heard,

Everything bad thing that Muslims do are actually jews, this is what you believe
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>>70207419
Iran never threatened to destroy the USA

If you mean the "death to America" chants

They are yelling "marg bar Amrika" which transliterated means death upon america. In context it is closer to 'down with'. Persian language doesn't transliterate well to English but your jew media loves it.

To put it in perspective. We used to have a reformist president called Khatami and the hardlienrs used to chant marg bar Khatami and paint their trucks with it. They weren't literally calling for his death. And Khamenei specifically said the chant is about American government policy, not on Americans. I can tell you that a lot of the people chanting this would gladly migrate to America with their family and would love to live in the USA as contributing people of your society. This is complicated
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>>70207419
Now you're just being disingenuous. A lot of that rhetoric was from Ahmadinejad when he was president and of course it came to nothing. Israel on the other hand has nuclear weapons and no doubt a couple of nukes aimed at the US for their Samson Option.
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>>70207419
>>70207419

yes, their constant threats that Netenyahu pulls out of his ass? The "they are one month away from a nuclear bomb!" - every two years.
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I am sunni and it doesen´t matter, that iranians are shia, they are my brothers and sisters in islam and I support them.
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>>70207312
/pol/ is mostly retarded they post these stupid Jewish conspiracies with no actual evidence backing them up and then you call you a shill because you dont believe their bullshit
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>>70207419
No one but kikes and useful idiots believe that nonsense.
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>>70207230
> gaza = open air prison
> doesnt know what a MILITARY OCCUPATION ZONE means

israel tried to give gaza back to egypt, and egypt said No Thank You.

egypt DID take back the OIL RICH SINAI DESERT when the israelis offered to give back territory taken in '68, but they sure as fuck didnt want gaza.

israel is stuck with gaza, like a dog turd on their shoe.

> all that other irrelevant shit

do try to be less stupid.
but i am betting that you cant consider any position other than your own achmed.

suck a dick.
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>>70207351
Iran really dislike's the US not sure how they feel about Britain but whatever they our an enemy and thinking otherwise is delusional
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>>70203518
Iran
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>>70207887
>they post these stupid Jewish conspiracies
Name me a specific "conspiracy." If it's true, I'll give you a legit source. If not, I'll tell you it's not true.
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>>70203518
Bomb them both
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>>70207241

Nonsense. I actually worked in the cbd that day, picking bricks of people. I'll never forget the things I saw that day.

Iy wad a massive natural disaster. People from all over the world were flown out en masse. We did not need them there getting in the way. If you wete on holidays, you needed to get out quick. I personally helped a German girl who couldn't find her friend, an elderly Australian couple, some random Arab dude all get out by the following day.

Pre quake Christchurch had approximately 200 Saudi students living here. Their government ordered them all out on Feb 22, they were gone by the Thursday. Nothing weird about a country looking after their citizens. Australias government sent the RAAF in to evacuate their citizens. Yet somehow fuckwits like John Minto and Ian Wishart believe Jerusalem doing the same thing is something sinister and get the NZ media whipped up into a frenzy. The same Ian Wishart who belueved Israel caused the Fukushima earthquake.
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>>70207420
>Israelis did 9/11
>pol actually believes this

wew lad
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Iran of course. Israel should be nuked.
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>>70207856
My family is Shia I have absolutely no issue with 80% of the Sunni but I don't like Salafist, specifically the type in Saudi Arabia and the ones in Belgium and the UK making their mosques everywhere. They are a cancer everywhere they go
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>>70207531
You're probably a Muslim and just hate Israel because they our Jews, give me one good reason you hate Israel?
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>>70207615
Leader and high ranking ISIS members are confirmed mosad

Jihadi John and foreigner execution videos also confirmed fake
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>>70207887

>then you call you a shill

I'm calling you a victim card playing cunt

You act like you're about to cry
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>>70208056
Explain the graphic then
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>>70203518
Iran. If Israel gets wiped off the planet then our foreign policy won't be as retarded.
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>>70207961
I am Iranian. The government is fighting with yours for regional hegemony. nothing more. It doesn't matter if Iran had a religious theocracy or not, the government will always want to control the middle east. Iranians see this as their historical role.
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>>70203518
I hate kebabs and kikes. Right wing Israelis are based though. They're the best kebab removers in the modern world. So Israel over Iran.
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>>70207623
>>70207731
>>70207826
>>70207951

Chants in Iran: Death to America, Death to the Infidel

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUezKsBCRbk

So is this video showing thousands of Iranians marching and shouting death to America and death to the infidel really JIDF propaganda?
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>>70207856
>Germany
>Muslim

You cant make this shit up top kek
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>>70207965
look at all those secular girls
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>>70207953
>srael tried to give gaza back to egypt, and egypt said No Thank You.
You don't know what the fuck you're talking about, again. I'm close to giving up.
In 2008, Gaza held democratic elections, certified as "Kosher" even by Jimmy Carter.
The Jews and Us didn't like the results, so they've been under blockade ever since. Are not allowed to import basic aid, cement, even crayons.
In addition, every 2 years or so, the Jews manufacture an excuse to kill 3,000-5,000 of them. Find and read "The Goldstone Report" that documents Israel's crimes against humanity and everything else they're guilty of.
In Gaza and in Palestine in general, The Muzzies are 100% in the right. They were driven out of their land, even the parts given them by the UN in the illegal partition, where the Jews are still building settlements in West Bank and East Jerusalem.
A "military occupation" doesn't last 45 years. The rules for handing back territory (and specifically not settling in that territory) are in the geneva convention.
You also don't know the Jews gave back the Sinai in the 1979 Camp David Accords under Carter.
Don't get into arguments when you don't even know the basics.
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>>70207856
>That post

Jesus Christ, Germany...
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>>70203518
Israel, all the way.

To hell with Iran and to hell with Muslims, ALL Muslims.
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>>70208008
ISIS is actually Jews and not Muslims thats one of many stupid conspiracy theories ive heard on /pol/
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>>70208272
>S O O N
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>>70208076
So you are shia?
Friend we don´t like any kind of extremists either. And desu there are enough shia extremists too. Extremism is always wrong.

But the word salafi is kinda misleading. These people do not call themselfes salafi, you need to know that. And a lot of people you call salafi, are just very devout muslims, who don´t want to hurt anybody. Because of their looks though, they are getting the same mistreatment as the very very few ISIS supporters.

I think this creates a lot of hate and actually pushes devout but peace loving muslims into extremism.

Let´s be honest here, the west has also fault in all of this.
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>>70208436
Forgetting pictures, one kek at a time.
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>>70208071
Why should Israel be nuked exactly? You cunt
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>>70208056

>wew lad

Doesn't really work in this instance.

The Jews benefited enormously from 9/11

The Muslims, not so much.

That and the fact that fucking Israelis were caught dancing as the towers burned, you fucking moron.
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>>70208212
Yes this is a very popular chant it is chanted at certain times, like anniversary of the Iranian Revolution. As I explained in context it means something like down with America. It's not literally calling for death. That's just what it's transliterated to (marg bar means death upon). Persian transliterates very badly into english because it comes across as quite extreme. If you transliterated our phrases it would make no sense

"khoda hafez" is goodbye but transliterated it means god's protection

"ghorbanat beram" it means "i adore you" but transliterated it means "Id sacrafice myself for you"

the whole language is like this. it's very 'poetic' and comes across as extreme when transliterated.

But even Khamenei explained

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/nov/03/ayatollah-khamenei-iran-death-to-america
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>>70208106
>actually believing this
>shows no proof what so ever
>actually thinking im going to believe this obvious bullshit

Nice try ahmed
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>>70208114
propaganda obviously
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>>70208443
oh I blame the west for this. They thought they could control the Salafists for their own benefit and allied with the Saudis. Look what they've done to themselves.
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>>70208183
Yeah because Iran is totally our ally and they just love us
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Why not both?
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>>70208593
You do know those documents are legitimate right?
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>>70208114

Fuck me mate the graphic has proven us all wrong! Gas war now! Race the kikes!!!
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>>70208212
>So is this video showing thousands of Iranians marching and shouting death to America and death to the infidel really JIDF propaganda?
They aren't allowed freedom of speech in their own country?
What the fuck do I care what they chant in their own nation? Again, name for the Iranians in Hollywood, the news media, porn, the government, every subversive, degenerate element in the US, turn over a rock and you'll find a Jew blinking at the light like a startled cockroach.
Want to see how the Jews treat Christians there?
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>>70208212
>Chants in Kike: Death to America, Death to the white man
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Neither. They both need to be nuked.
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>>70208405
you get it
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>>70205986
Bullshit. Oh btw, how does that wahabi dick taste? You would know.
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>>70208674
Hurr durr nothin suspicious about Israelis with bombs durr nothing suspicious about dancing Israelis on 911 durr
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>>70208436
Germany stop shitposting on 4chan and go take back your country from the Muslims
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>>70208053
Out of the country within 12 hours of the earthquake? Netenyahu personally calling our PM 4 times to ask about them? The dead kike had something like 5 different passports on him? They were never definitively identified as spies but it wouldn't be that much of a leap of logic if they were. Let's not forget the passport scandal in the mid 2000s involving mossad agents and our passports either.
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>>70203518
just pretend you don't know, don't side with anyone and hope it ends soon.
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>>70208540
You're trying very hard to rationalize thousands of Iranians shouting death to America and death to all non believers
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>>70208616
there can be only one
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>>70206295
>Implying I would support a warmongering state that has been the driving force behind every major war in the regio along with the US neo-cons (diaspora Jews)

And if the negotiations with Iran fail, the first glimps of hope, to bring stability and peace into the region. It will be the neo-cons and Israel again who are responsible.
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>>70208419
>ISIS is actually Jews and not Muslims thats one of many stupid conspiracy theories ive heard on /pol/
OK, let's find evidence:
"Israel continues to interact with Syrian rebels in the Golan Heights and allow them to cross the border, according to a new UN report corroborated by a VICE News team that visited the area in November, uncovering additional incidents beyond what has been described by the UN."

the "Vice" tape of Israel treating and releasing ISIS fighters on the Syrian border:
video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQI9hKQLry8
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>>70203518
Neither. Both should be purged.
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>>70208340
Me: israel tried to give gaza back to egypt

you: Nuh Uhh!!!
> spouts some bullshit about pallie "elections"

i repeat:
egypt REFUSED to take gaza back
https://www.quora.com/Why-doesnt-Egypt-annex-the-Gaza-strip-and-provide-Palestinians-living-there-with-a-reasonable-life

and even beforte the '68 war that left israel with the stinking turd that is gaza, the egyptians kept the pallies under an even more sever "apartheid" than israel does under it's military occupation

youre a dumbass.
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>>70206363
Can you explain to me why you get away with posting porn all the time on here?
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>>70208681
Thats not the point.... Secular governments dont hold mass rallies and have thousands of people shout death to all non believers fuck off cunt
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>>70208985
Kike privilege.
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>>70208768
You got me all wrong mate i dislike all Muslims sunni or shia i dont care they are all savages im not defending Saudi Arabia but you fucks are defending Iran, see the difference
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>>70208419
>ISIS is actually Jews and not Muslims thats one of many stupid conspiracy theories ive heard on /pol/
now what? Is the UN making it up? Or maybe VICE has turned into a neo-NAzi, anti-Jew, 1 billion dollars anti-Jew media company?
Explain. You asked for evidence, you got it. Now what?
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They are both bros, and have been bros together going back to when Cyrus the great freed the Jews from Babylon. They will never fight, the populations of both countries have no beef with each other, and the web has dozens of pics of "Iranians for Israel" and vice versa.

They are just having a small spat in their millenia long bromance, cos Iran was hanging getting into some wierd cult or something a few measly centuries ago, and Israel said he should go back to his Zoroastrian roots.

It will be over soon and they will make up, and then they will double team the Wahhabis and make the fertile cresent great again :^)
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>>70208843
id be okay with that..
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>>70206550
>>70206803
Thx for the posts. I generally agree with you. Just don't expect much understanding from USA and greatest ally and their vassal states.
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>>70208865
I told you, marg bar only transliterates to death upon America. In context it means something closer to down with

Look here is image of it translated. Also I didn't mention that the hardlienrs know this phrase is antagonistic. They don't want any friendly relations with the West, they were against a nuclear deal with Obama. It is only the hardliners in USA and Iran that are against the deal. The liberals on both sides wanted a deal and want peace.
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>>70209121
Next he will call you an anti-Semite
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>>70203518
Iran
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>>70208913
That proves nothing lol there are alot of Syrian rebels some of which the US supports that doesn't mean that the Islamic state is actually Jewish you fucking retarded
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>>70206867
>tfw when Sweden gets called a shitskin country by Saudi Arabia
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>>70203717
Iranians are. Arabs largely aren't.
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>>70206550
Are you on shiachat?
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>>70203518
Neither. The region is near completely depleted of oil the bulk of the population are otherwise useless or irrational thinkers. We no longer have a reason to be involved. We should return to withdrawing from the region.
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>>70207107
Nice bait /x/.
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>>70208903
Then Iran
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>>70209146
They are not bros how deluded are you?

Iran and Israel hate absolutely hate each other, the battle will come the only question is when...
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>>70208975
>https://www.quora.com/Why-doesnt-Egypt-annex-the-Gaza-strip-and-provide-Palestinians-living-there-with-a-reasonable-life
Eish. I've spent 2 fucking years of my life studying this, and I'm having a turd trying to outsmart me by quoting "Quora."

Have you ever read the terms of the Camp David Accord? Do you know what the Jews wanted in exchange?
Do you know that the US overthrew the democratically elected government of Egypt and installed a junta with al-Sisi bc he was going to open the Rafah crossings?
do you know EGYPT gets 1.5 billion to keep the Rafah border closing shut and make nice wit the Jews?
Question-- would you walk into the middle of brain surgery and start giving advice if you have never studied neurology?
No, correct? Do you think this, the real details, are any less complicated? And yet, people like you have no problem barging in and quoting "Quora" to someone who spent his life studying this for a masters and now in Intl law. amazing.
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>>70205188
What offensive war has Israel engaged in? The only close thing I can think of is bombing the nuclear site in osric in Iraq but that wasn't a war so much as a strike.

If neighboring countries say they are going to destroy you and drive you into the sea and start mobilizing and massing their militaries you don't have to wait for the destruction before you defend yourself.
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>>70209165
What about the death to all infidels part?
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>>70207193
>Implying you wouldn't dislike the west, if they toppled your government and installed a puppet dictator
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>>70209424
so they are basicly germany in WW1, and they got all the blame.
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>>70209312
Agreed we should just leave the middle east all together but Israel is still way more based then Iran
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>>70209371
Why does India hate Israel?
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>>70209005
>Thats not the point.... Secular governments dont hold mass rallies and have thousands of people shout death to all non believers fuck off cunt
So..you're saying Israel is a secular government then ,correct?
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israel. its a more chilled out place. fuck the crazy shiites
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>>70209539
>47 posts
Hi JIDF
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>>70209484
>implying that they still aren't an enemy to the west
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>>70209371
>The Kashmiri
Bharat Mata ki Jai.

>>70209539
India is the second best ally if Israel. unfortunately.
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>>70203518
Iran.
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>>70209587
Probably a butthurt diaspora Jew.
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>>70209484
>still buttmad about 1945
let it go
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>>70208816

The fact you only mention one Israeli killed in the quakes shows you have no idea. Three died.

Two on the corner of Colombo and Mollett who were crushed by masonry. One on Gloucester St sitting in a van outside Winnie Bagoes when that building completely collapsed.

All three were on holidays after doing their service. Its also actually very common for Israelis to hold multiple passports, parents might be French, so get a French passport. You might've been born in Canada and made aliyah, keep your Canuck passport. I'll grant you the 2 agents that were jailed back in Helengrad times, but that had nothing to do with this situation. And yeah nothing wrong with a world leader pushing hard to get their citizens out of a massive natural disaster. Obama did it, Gillard did it, Merkel did it, Harper did it, every world leader did it.

And yeah, get everybody out of the country as soon as possible. You can't be from Christchurch, we were living in tents without water or electricity. No flushing toilets. Constant aftershocks. Why would we keep anyone in the country who is traumatized, and only wants to go home? Makes no difference if their Israeli, Filipino, Turkish, Saudi, American. Thousands of foreign nationals were evacuated asap.
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>>70209619
You're hurting my brain m8
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>>70209436
I have never heard Iranians chant this, the hardliners don't even use this word infidel, that is a takfiri thing (al qaeda etc), not shia. Shiites only have issue with USA and Zionists (Israel), nobody else. Khamenei said this in a speech recently actually. He said he wants to pursue friendly relations with all nations except USA and Israel.

Iran and USA won't have friendly relations until this war over hegemony of the middle east ends.
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>>70209632
Gai tumhari maata hai
Usko him khaata hai
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Iran, no doubt about it.

I'd rather convert and live under ISIS than liberalism at this point.
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>>70203518
>>70203553
>Creates a thread
>answers to his own thread 39 seconds later
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>>70209750
suwar tera baap h
wo meri tatti khata h
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>>70209372
That is what your government wants you to believe, kike. First Afghanistan, then Iraq. . , then Syria. It is obvious that Iran is next on the hit list. But the problem is, Iran hasnt started a war in hundreds of years, and wont be giving a cassus belli to the US any time soon.

The common people in Israel and Iran have a mutual respect for each others ancient cultures. There are jews in Iran still, and are represented in their government.

The governments of US, Iran and Israel are all warmongers. But the people don't have any quarrel at all.
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>>70209791
2/10
Try again
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eh iran, i mean we're on the verge of not being friends anymore, but we're still OK w/ each other
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>>70209424
>What offensive war has Israel engaged in?
You honestly don't know this? Look up "Ariel Sharon, butcher of Beirut" and what he did at Sabra and Shatila.
He let the Jews close off an entire camp so that for 3 days and nights, the Jews and their allies in Lebanon could go on a throat-cutting rampage of women, children, and elderly.
He was kicked out of the army eventually. Later, he started the second Intifada by going up to the Dome of the rock with Jew thugs and having them clear out the muslims.
In gratitude, the Jews elected him PM. and now, while digesting this, keep in mind that South Africa was undermined and destroyed completely by Jews: Slovo, Oppenheimer, Zille, etc..
After the niggers took over, 85% of Jews after 1994 left South Africa. The Jews wrecked the nation, and then took for Israel and left the Gentiles to face the kaffirs.
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>>70209825
ohh yeah ive seen you before on many threads
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>>70209739
You're arguing with JIDF. No need to bother with them.
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>>70209929
??
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>>70209782
>new on the shilling job
well, it's only a few dollars.

>>70209825
kek
why do you hate the country that feeds you?
you really think pakistan occupied kashmir is prosperous?
you know what'll happen the moment india steps back from kashmir? ask some old people near you what happened in 1948 and multiply that with 10.
pakistani army won't even let you live. but you delusional fags won't ever understand that.
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Guess I'll go with eternal enemy.
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>>70209892
>eh iran, i mean we're on the verge of not being friends anymore, but we're still OK w/ each other
Oh nigger please. If you are a real Emirati, you're as bad as the Jews.
Ready to fund ISIS, but when it's time to take in Rapefugees and pay for it, don't ask the UAE...unless it's to build mosques in Europe, of course.
Scums of the earth, funding ISIS and destroying Europe. If I could, I'd nuke you along with the Jews.
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>>70209981
ive seen you post on many threads before, i remember asking you if you're in kasmir why do you have an indian flag
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>>70210059
>f you're in kasmir why do you have an indian flag
because kashmir is an integral part of India.

Jai Hind!
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>>70209079
So: your country allies with Saudi Arabia. The single greatest exporter of terrorism in the whole world. The vast, vast majority of terrorists involved in 9/11 were wahabi Arabs. Their only help they offered in the refugee crisis was to build 200 mosques in Germany. They push for wahabi Islam in Germany, the fund it, aristocrats and millionairs in their country and Katar fund the Islamic State. Wahabism was a small sect before they got all the money from oil deals and the Imperial power of America ignoring their spreading of radical Islam as a useful tool in undermining secular governments in the middle east who could come under influence of Moscow. The support of radical Islam in the region is also to blame for the massive hate coming out of this region. The archetypical example is Osama bin Laden whom you funded, trained and supported in Afghanistan and ultimately turned against you and us.

I could understand the problem, we're stuck with post cold war politics. But many of your hardliners, like Mc Caine, didn't learn from their mistake. They wanted to fund groups in Syria, which are basically Al-Nusra, therfor Al-Quaida, just for disgraceful geo-political calculations. And their conviction that Russia = Soviet Union did its part to push Putin's Russia into this direction.
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>>70210003
Ask some old? My grandfather has already told what India has done, also you guys are niggers
http://www.risingkashmir.com/news/nonlocal-students-attempt-to-murder-courier-boy/
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>>70210044
UAE took in a look of refugees for their population

You're thinking of your friends, Saudi Arabia
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>>70210109
No
Go away Bihari
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>>70209247
>That proves nothing lol there are alot of Syrian rebels some of which the US supports that doesn't mean that the Islamic state is actually Jewish you fucking retarded
Jesus Chrsit, you are fucking desperate, aren't you? No one has ever said "ISIS itself are Jews."
We've said Israel, along with Saudis, Turkey, and the US have been FUNDING AND ARMING ISIS. As they have.
Why not just admit, you're fucking wrong shithead? You ran into someone who actually knows this topic, you are wrong. Admit it.
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>>70210122
>implying pakistan army won't be 100 times worse.
grass is always greener on the other side.
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Iran
GAS THE KIKES RACE WAR NOW 1488
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>>70206550
>>70206803
>most Iranians are the alcohol drinking kind of muslims that don't pray 5 times a day

That's also my experience with Iranians here in Norway. They're part of a small group of non-western immigrants who assimilate to Western culture extremely well.

Sadly the vast majority of our sandniggers are sunni. If they were all shiites I'd be able to live with it.
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>>70210146
ah thank you educated aussie, alot of people confuse UAE with saudia arabia on /pol/, when we're actually against ISIS and the terrorists in yemen
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>>70210166
>Bihari
says half-dick mulla.
fuck off, i'm from Haryana.
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They should be allies, they're both hated by sunnis and arabs. Might as well side with each other.
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>>70210166
Do most Kashmiris want to join Pakistan, India, or become an autonomous state?
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>>70210186
AYYY SALEM ALEKHOUM PALESTINE 7BIBI
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>>70210177
Sure, there is. It's our own choice what we do for ourselves.
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>>70210257
AHLEN BRABAK 5AYO
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>>70210227
B I H A R I
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>>70210146
>UAE took in a look of refugees for their population
Get me a source please? the only people they "Take in" are the scum go earth from India, pakistan, and bangledesh to use as slave labor.
And they fund ISIS almost as much as the Saudis and Kuwaitis.
You're not dealing witht he avg idiot edge lord on here, bad news for you.
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>>70203518
iran

god's chosen people can't be trusted
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>>70210186
هذا
١٤٨٨
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>>70210253
Autonomous but we like Pakistan because they make India butthurt
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>>70209540
Yes that is exactly what im saying there are no laws which discriminate against people based on religion in Israel like there are in Iran
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Neither
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>>70210248
wouldnt work, israel is allies with the US, and Iran hates the US and all of its allies so no point
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>>70203518
False dilemma.

I side with pic related.
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Both
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>>70210260
>>70210301
i seriously do hope we let go of kashmir.
it will be fun when kashmiris start begging for indians to come back afer seeing how the pakistani army treats them.

fuck off half-dick, terrorist. go become a suicide bomber.

>>70210356
>Autonomous
as if pakistan won't attack kashmir the minute that happens.
like i said, Kashmiris are delusional.
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>>70210356
OK thanks for the info.

Does Pakistan want to annex you or are they fine with letting you become autonomous if you manage to leave India?
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>>70210146
>UAE took in a look of refugees for their population
>You're thinking of your friends, Saudi Arabia
"Saudi Arabia, UAE, Qatar, Kuwait, Bahrain have resettled 'zero' refugees
Amnesty International described their inaction in the crisis as 'shameful'"

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3222405/How-six-wealthiest-Gulf-Nations-refused-single-Syrian-refugee.html#ixzz458ktv2hO
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they will probably become allies when a major sunni threat arises, just like the Iran-Iraq war where Israel was one of the few countries that Supported Iran with arms and Intel
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>>70210315
http://www.khaleejtimes.com/nation/government/uae-aid-to-syrian-refugees-is-the-highest
http://www.uae-embassy.org/syrian-refugee-crisis-%E2%80%93-uae-contribution
http://www.thenational.ae/uae/government/100000-syrians-move-to-uae-since-2011
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>>70210453
annex.
i'll bet everything i own on it.
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>>70210480
http://www.uae-embassy.org/syrian-refugee-crisis-%E2%80%93-uae-contribution
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>>70210510
Too bad that doesn't include a toilet.
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do we have any other geniuses who wan too take a shot at me and get exposed as the retards they are?
When you tell the off, still snarky. When you GIVE PROOF, they slink away like a Jew when the ill comes to the table.
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>>70210499
Btw, how is the effort of Dubai's Sheikh going in reforming the Middle East and modernizing it? Any recent successes so far? And which power is hindering you the most?
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>>70210536
>http://www.uae-embassy.org/syrian-refugee-crisis-%E2%80%93-uae-contribution
Well, gee...who would a reasonable person trust? The Western media and Amnesty Intl, or government propaganda from a known group of lying scum?
I'm going to go with the Western media on this one, esp given the UAE's history of using slave labor and lying about it, etc..
If anyone doubts this, happy to provide a good 60 minutes reports on corruption in the UAE.
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>>70203518
Israel-greatest Allie

Iran-tranny lover

I will side with Israel I really don't like transfreaks
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>>70210712
>>70210499
And both are propaganda and spun to serve their own narrative.
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>>70210598
You have proved nothing other then you are a Muslim sympathizer and are Anti Semitic
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>>70210536
>http://www.uae-embassy.org/syrian-refugee-crisis-%E2%80%93-uae-contribution
CNN: "But no Syrian refugees have been resettled in Persian Gulf nations like Kuwait, Bahrain and the United Arab Emirates, countries with significant financial and political interest in Syria."
http://www.cnn.com/2015/09/08/world/gulf-states-syrian-refugee-crisis/
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>>70210438
Like a Jew getting called a Jew you rattle when you are called a bihari
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>>70209413
>fails to grasp that camp david negotiations were almost ended by Egypt's refusal to take back gaza
> smug cunt brags and makes extraordinary claims about his mental prowess while making more irrelevant assertions
> winning an argument moron style

youre an idiot.
egypt REFUSES to take gaza back, and even before israel took it in '68 gaza was being strangled by egypt.

but i can see you are confused.

here's some evidence that will demonstrate that i am right and you are wrong, using your own style of argumentation

in 1963, the Chrysler 904 Torqueflight B was the first transmission to feature an all aluminium housing, and was notable for employing a push button shifting mechanism located on the left side of the dash!

you didnt know that so i win!!!

now go fuck yourself with a pineapple.
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>>70210795
>You have proved nothing other then you are a Muslim sympathizer and are Anti Semitic
Sorry, I think others would disagree. I've provided mainstream sources for everything I've said.
What have you provided?
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>>70210828
so do you, when called a half-dick terrorist.
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>>70210677
well ever since our recent conflict in yemen, a law has been placed where after an emirati finishes high school/secondary school, they must go through conscription, just in case if iran,saudi,yemen, decides to attack, and so far not anything was changed, and what power is hindering me the most is how saudi is trying to cut our neutrality with iran after the incident of the saudi vs iran conflict, we're nearly close to become an enemy, the iranian navy can just come right now and invade us from how close it is, but for now we closed all iranian related shops
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>>70210362
the us should ally with iran too, all of them can work together. I'd rather have Iran as an ally than saudi arabia, Iran produces and educated population and saudi arabia breeds radical islam .
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Israel, duh.
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>>70210795
>Anti Semitic
>He says this on /pol/
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>>70210941
Why are you guys in Yemen and why does Saudi have so much power over you?
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>>70203518
They are both redpilled but I'd side with Isrsel.

Why? Becaise /pol/ hates us both and therefore ir makes us automatically into allies.
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>>70210952
i agree, i trust iran more than saudi, as saudi embraces 100% radical islam, and the people are very annoying to deal with, they come to bahrain and UAE to get drunk and party and leave, theyre very annoying from how uneducated they are, iran however is smart, and since saudi is one of our biggest allies, its going to be hard maintaining neutrality with iran
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>>70210910
Goodbye, Bihari
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>>70206550
I agree. The U.S. doesn't have a problem with our Iranians. In fact, all the ones I've met are Christians.
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>>70211052
idk but how to explain it but i sure hope this can
http://gulfnews.com/opinion/thinkers/why-the-uae-is-fighting-in-yemen-1.1599513
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>>70211073
Goodbye, half-dick terrorist.
May the pakistanis bomb the shit out of you.
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>>70210941
Doesn't sound good at all mate. Muhammad bin Raschid Al Maktum sounded like a very reasonable man to me. I hope the UAE doesn't get dragged into a war and the general region can find peace. I really hope, the prophecy that the M/E will implode in bloodshed will not come true. It would hurt Europe dramatically aswell. And it would be bad for the entire world. If we add to it a world wide economic crisis, it will be getting really, really bad.

What's the conflict between Saudis and Iran about btw? And why did you have a conflict in Yemen?
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>>70211060
most middle eastern countries should just ally with russia and the U.S and fuck saudi arabia up desu baka senpai
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>>70210851
>egypt REFUSES to take gaza back, and even before israel took it in '68 gaza was being strangled by egypt.
Egypt has refused under the terms offered-- which was COMPLETE financial and humanitarian responsibility for Gaza, as well as security responsibility at a time when they could not take care of their own and were trying to keep a simmering revolution under wraps.

As I said, you never read the offer that was made, either in 1979 Camp Daivd or the Oslo Accords .
You don't have a fucking clue what you're talking about.
"This kind of talk confirms what we have been saying for years, which is that there is official Israeli thought which aims to evade responsibility for the Gaza Strip and dump it on Egypt," a spokesperson for the foreign ministry in Cairo said.
Under the proposal, Israel would close all of its land crossings into Gaza, leaving the blockaded enclave completely dependent on Egypt for the movement of people and goods
read more: http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/egypt-israel-wants-to-dump-gaza-on-us-1.296347"
It was a catch-22. If Egypt had "taken" Gaza, it would have essentially let the West Bank hanging in the breeze, and killed any hope for an independent Palestine, which is what the Pals want and have been fighting for since 1948. READ more, post less retard.
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>>70203518
israel
fuck any and all muslims
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>>70211154
It makes sense but this is so much propaganda.
>restore reasonable and legitimate government in Yemen
What the hell?
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>>70211235
actually, UAE is allies with russia, china, and a lot of super powers, i think north korea as well, but trust me no one in the gulf region likes saudi from how cheap and annoying they are,
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>>70211060
If I had to choose between Saudi Arabia and Iran, I'd choose Iran aswell. And if I had to choose between the Islamic State and Hisbollah, I'd choose the Hisbollah. Although none of them are particularly friendly with the west, I think. But then again, I don't like the West that much at this point in time either.
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also, THIS is how Jews treat Christian volunteers trying to stop these lovely Jew settlers from invading land that isn't their own:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hefIti-uFUo
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>>70211208
Yemen revolution basically happened. Ali Saleh and his cronies were BTFO. Houthis want to establish themselves in this new situation. Iran supports Houthis because they are Shia (mostly Zaydi and some Ithna Ashari) and because they are anti-Saudi. Saudi Arabia is scared of Yemen being anti-Saudi and so starts a war. The US and other Gulf states are helping Saudi to reestablish an illegitimate government for "le political chessgame strategy xD"
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Iranian here, our ancient king gave Jews essential rights and look how they treat us now, defaming our nation and setting crippling sanctions. Theocracy aside, we are good people. We assimilate well and most have respect. Leave us alone and we'll do the same. That means you Anglo and US, no more coups, please. Research Mossadegh, Iran could have been a democracy, helluva lot better than this now.
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>>70211396
And Muslims behead Christians what is your point?

http://theync.com/jihadists-behead-a-christian-in-libya.htm
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>>70211351
think of saudia arabia as the russia of the gulf region, they think yemen is a threat to us so they had a meeting, most of the sheikhs agreed, so they're there and deployed
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>>70211284

I appreciate your posts.
It scares me how misinformed people are about Egypt and Jordans treatment of their discarded territories.
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>>70211557
how is the Yemen war going for the Saudis?
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>>70211557
Yeah, but I don't understand why the other Gulf states don't just cut off relations with Saudi
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>>70211668
From what I've heard, they're doing pretty badly
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>>70211668
saudis arent doing anything from how lazy and dumb they are, theyre pretty much kicking back and holding, while we lost a lot of casualities, idk what bahrain,oman,kuwait, and qatar is doing at this point
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Iranian Jew here, master of trade and deception, truly the master race.
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>>70210851
>n 1963, the Chrysler 904 Torqueflight B was the first transmission to feature an all aluminium housing, and was notable for employing a push button shifting mechanism located on the left side of the dash!
Jesus Christ-- asshole, YOU'VE NEVER STUDIED THE CONFLICT. You've never read the relevant documents, you don't know the conflicts, you don't know the history of Israel, the Irgun, the 67 war, the Yom Kippur War. YOU DON'T GET IT.

I don't come into your house and tell you about how business, like a better way to sell your mother' ass. Don't come with a fucking snarky attitude and preach to me about something I've spent over 6 years studying.

You don't know the players, what was at stake, the politics, the military, situation, what Americans end up paying for all of this (Bin Laden himself is quoted in "The Osama Bin Laden I Knew," edit by Peter Bergen as saying that US arming and abetting the Jews was his prime motivation for 9/11...whic, you guess it, the Jews also knew about in advance and never told us.
Want a MSM link on that? Jewish foreknowledge of 9/11? Now I realize you must be a Jew, bc any normal person after being confronted with this much evidence would say "You're right." You're either Jew or Rapture Bunny, but I'm going with Jew.
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>>70211396
I thought this was going to be the video of the IDF bulldozer running over that American girl that was protesting settlements.
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>>70211678
cutting off relations with saudi is going to cause a lot of problems, KSA's army is as big as UAE,kuwait,bahrain,qatar, combined, but u know what? we're allies and supported by china and russia, if saudia wants to declare war on us we can ask putin to fuck them up, infact UAE is probably the only gulf state putin likes since how good our relations are
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>>70211739
>Iranian Jew here, master of trade and deception, truly the master race.
If you had half a brain, you'd be spying in Iran for Mossad. The fact that you're on here just proves you are a Sephardi who probably gets beat up by Ashkanazis for having dark skin.

Lol, a few months back the psychotic settlers stabbed a few Sephardi, mistaking them for Arabs.
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>>70211284
> U R 2 Ignerent to grasp teh subtleties of muh genius@!!
> proceeds to detail exactly how and why egypt refuses to take gaza back
> claims that egypt doesnt want to leave the west bank all alone....

egypt cares so deeply for the pallies that they refuse to take back gaza just so the west bank wont feel lonely under the evil oppression of das juden!

sounds legit.

youre a retard.

if egypt had not started shit they would not have gotten their asses kicked and egypt would have finished smothering the last pallie in the gaza strip decades ago.

israel doesnt have any "responsibility" for gaza, they are under a MILITARY OCCUPATION, not apartheid

gaza is NOT part of israel
egypt wont take it back (which you finally admit) so the gaza pallies are stateless.

they ALSO dont want their own state, since that would result in responsibility for hamas and hezzbollah's antics.

a "free gaza" would last about a week at most before hamas started a new war with israel and they once again became an occupied territory.
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>>70211722
yeh i noticed how most of the gains for the Saudi alliance was made by the UAE and not the Saudis and i guess that is why you guys had a lot of casualties.
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>>70211516
If what you say it's true, this is disgusting. Your support for Saudi Terroristia is absolutely revolting, mate. It just helps keep the region in constant borderline civil war, radicalized muslim dumbshittistan and prevents progress and stability for the region.

But yeah, it's never this simple in politics. Still Saudi Arabia as an "ally" is cancer. And so is Sultan "Wut? I don't support Isis, lel!" Erdogan in NATO.
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This thread proves /pol/ is fucking retarded enjoy living under Sharia law you cucks
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>>70211907
Who said I didn't?
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>>70211702
>Saudis can't fight for shit
Nothing surprising here.
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>I thought this was going to be the video of the IDF bulldozer running over that American girl that was protesting settlements.
No, but happy to show you Rachel corrie, who is now gleefully know by the Jews as "St.Pancake." Get it? A Christian girl who was "flattened" by a kike, who of course was never charged. Let me find a nice, Jewish picture:
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>>70211976
i'm telling the ayatollah
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>>70211895
IF KSA attacked you and Putin supported you, the USA and Israel probably would support KSA. That'd be a massive war on the level of the Iran-Iraq war and millions of people could die.
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This thread is gay. Let them fight to death, nuke the survivor.
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>>70210564
underrated
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>>70211939
You haven't presented any evidence beyond MSM catchphrases and you've been getting btfo by >>70211907 everytime you speak. How about you just fuck off
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>>70212028
the thing is, they have quantity over quality, but saudi is one of the worst allies we have, think of it as the small man with more rights than you and have more power, and the big guy with less rights and less power, UAE is doing all the work, saudia is taking all the credit for "fighting" they cant fight for shit just like the german dude said, UAE is suffering all those casualties not saudi
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>>70211600
this fuckwit has spent the last several exchanges refusing to admit that egypt refuses to take gaza back

this is the first time he has admitted that egypt REFUSED to accept the return of gaza, after repeatedly insisting that i was stupid for saying that.
now he wants to pretend that he was right all along, and i am just too dumb to recognize his genius.

look: it's right here!
>>70208340

Me: Israel tried to give gaza back to egypt, and egypt said No Thank You.

Fucknut: You don't know what the fuck you're talking about, again. I'm close to giving up.


dont stroke this faggot's ego, he is clueless.
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>>70212106
Who said I wasn't their past leader?
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>>70211933
If there is once country that should be destroyed, I would first choose Saudi. If I had another choice, Israel. Then the US. And then Turkey.

The world would be so much better.
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>>70211910
>hey ALSO dont want their own state, since that would result in responsibility for hamas and hezzbollah's antics.
Jesus christ...Hamas is a sunni group, indpendtly elected to run Gaza.
Hezbollah is a group...rally a "shadow government," of Shia based in Lebanon, and they kicked the shit out of the Jews the last time they tried to invade them.
They have NOTHING to do with one another. Fucking not only a kike, but a retarded like who doesn't even know the basics.
You are more retarded than most, but you're still going, even as I expose you more and more.
Hamas was elected fair and democratically. But the Jews decide to unilaterally "embargo" them bc they don't like who was elected?
And the Us sits back and allows the likes to pull our strings? And people wonder why we are hated. Are you a Jew or rapture bunny, btw?
Level of education? I you are older than 18, you should really consider getting your balls cut off to prevent reproducing.
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>>70212121
> level of the Iran-Iraq war
Oh God, you're right.

If only Abdullah's death destabilized that shitty tribe.
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>>70212121
yeah the only reason why they support KSA is for the oil money, heres how i expect it
>KSA announces not to be allied with UAE
>UAE starts to withdraw troops in yemen
>KSA gets angry
>KSA calls for war
>iran joins in
>russia joins in from UAE's help
>china also joins in
>4th gulf war ?
>ISIS joins in but gets perished quickly
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>>70211976
>Who said I didn't?
Indeed. You're a mossad spy in deep cover, not a Sephardi with skin the color of shit who presumably gets beat up there. Got ya.
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>>70208563
srsly
photographic evidence has been used to identify the leader as a mosad (or 'former mosad') as well as other high ranking members.

Video footage of the execution of foreign nationals has been discredited as being real due to the 'studio' quality of the videos. It is theorized that a secret organisation has captured these individuals an executed them in order to incite a war response from the US. comparing these videos to actual executions performed by ISIS on other Muslims clearly shows that the foreigners executed were not performed by ISIS.

look at how far they have come. initially we saw them in surplus Iraqi military vehicles. look at them now. Who has been funding them? of course it is the US and allies. The reason they deny this is because of the brutal methods of the mercenaries we call ISIS (Brutal methods condoned by the quran)

>Jews are behind fake ISIS executions
>Jews are behind real ISIS activities

Also I'm an atheist from /x/, not muslim
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>>70212347
i would actually expect the USA to let the UAE take over a lot of Saudi land in case of such a war, USA will be happy because they still have a major ally in the ME, Russia will be happy, Iran will be happy because no more sauds.
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>>70212574
im telling ya no one likes the saudis besides bahrain, and the allies of saudis just ally it for the oil money
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>>70212203
>his is the first time he has admitted that egypt REFUSED to accept the return of gaza, after repeatedly insisting that i was stupid for saying that.
>now he wants to pretend that he was right all along, and i am just too dumb to recognize his genius.
Dumb fuck, you need to work on your reading comp. READ the provision of the Camp David or Oslo Accords. SEE what Egypt what have had to take on, ALL responsibility, and doing do would have in effect killed the chance for the Pals to ever have a united state.
Not to mention, Egypt was (under Mubarak) and still i sCORRUPT AS SHIT. They take billions in bribes from the US to both A. Keep the Rafah Border Crossing closed B. Arrest anyone in Egypt who dares speak out agains the Jews.
After the Egyptian revolution, they elected a president who reflected the true interest s of the people. What was the Jew's response? along with the US, they staged a coup and tossed him out for a junta led by al-sis.
What did al-sis do? Not only keeps the borders closed, but flooded the tunnels under Rafah to destroy Gaza's only life line. You are fucking clueless.
You don't" get it," Egypt is corrupt as shit, but in the case of "having Gaza dumped on them, they are right. It would kill any chance the Pals ever had for getting their land back and for a single Palestinian state.
But other Egyptian actions – both over the past year, and in recent days – have led to accusations that Egypt is indifferent to Gazan suffering – and that its interests are aligned with Israel’s. Since last July Egypt has bolstered Israel’s blockade on Gaza by destroying over 1,600 tunnels that smugglers once used to bring crucial goods (and weapons) into the territory. The end of the tunnel trade, which Egypt had tolerated for years, crippled Gaza economically, since the simultaneous closure of Egypt’s formal border at Rafah meant Gazans had no other way of importing many supplies."
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>>70212276
so, hamas is not the de facto govt of gaza, and hezzbollah has no presence there...

my argument:
> IF gaza were to become an independent state (which they do not want) hamas and hezzbollah would launch more rockets at israel, resulting in another war, and gaza once again being occupied by israel.

your response:
> nuhh uhhh!! hamas and hezzbollah arent even involved in this shit!! U R A JEW!!! everybody hates you! U R IGNERENT!!!

youre a dolt.

at last you have finally stopped insisting that egypt wants gaza back, so at least you are making progress.
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If you are a retarded muslim loving leftist cuck,Iran. if you are a wise nationalist,Israel.
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>>70211910
>egypt cares so deeply for the pallies that they refuse to take back gaza just so the west bank wont feel lonely under the evil oppression of das juden!
DUMB FUCK, WHERE DID I EVER SAY EGYPT CARED FOR THE PALS!! THE Y DON'T MUBARK WAS TAKING BRIDES FOR 35 YEARS FORM TE US OVER $1BILL SPECIFICALLY NOT TO!
WHEN EGYPT ELECTED A GVT WHO MIGHT HELP THE PALS, THE JEWS AND TH USA OVERTHROW HIM AND INSTALLED A JUNTA. LEARN TO READ, ASSHOLE:
"Egypt’s leaders are loth to help Hamas because the group is an offshoot and ally of Egypt’s Muslim Brotherhood – whose scion, Mohamed Morsi, was ousted from office last July. To shore up its power, Egypt’s new regime, headed by the former army chief Abdel Fatah al-Sisi, has since waged a brutal crackdown on the Brotherhood inside Egypt. The squeeze on Hamas is part of the attempt to starve the Brotherhood of any remaining support.

To this end, Egypt has banned Hamas from operating inside Egypt, accused the group of aiding Egyptian terrorists, accused it of espionage, and tried many of its members in absentia. As Egypt’s counter-revolution gathered steam, Hamas was even blamed for a jailbreak during the 2011 Egyptian uprising."
TL/DR: THE JEWS OVERTHREW MORISI THE LEADER WHO WAS GOING TO OPEN RAFAH.
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>>70212198
That German dude was me. I know since Peter Scholl-Latour, who knows the region pretty good, tat KSA is junk. They got all the modern weapons from the West - literally the worst country to have them -, but their training is bad, the soldiers are bad and there is not much loyalty by the common soldier the the Saudi regime.

Maybe the USA supported and supports them, because they believe a corrupt aristocracy is easier to control than a secular democracy based on a people. Which may be correct, but it comes at the worst price. If my normie judgement is correct, which still needs to learn a lot about the region, the USA generally care only about their influence in the region and neither care for the people nor peace nor stability.

I hoped, some day the UAE and especially people like Muhammad bin Raschid Al Maktum could lead the region into a more stable and modernized future. But the outlook is grim at this moment. Hopefully, it won't come to another war.
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>>70212884
>wise nationalist
>international obligations
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>>70212706
... and here we go again.

egypt DID refuse to take gaza back.
that is what i said, and you proceeded to deny this was a fact.

after many denials you then declared that egypt doesnt want gaza back (no shit sherlock) and pretended like thats what you were saying all along, and then took it to even deeper levels of stupidity by claiming egypt's refusal to accept the return of gaza was so the west bank wouldnt feel lonely.

now you seem to be arguing that Egypt DOES want gaza back (ha ha ha ha ha ha ) and you try to blame this shit on the jews.

and you dare criticize MY reading comprehension?
youre clownshoes.
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>>70213022
exactly, im not hoping for another war either, atleast give us some time until our army becomes powerful, i think we're trained by the US and RU so its not that bad, and i hope UAE does become better than KSA,, the sheikhs here are good people, otherwise its just going to be a 4th gulf war, and the burj-khalifa is just going to be in ruins
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>>70212884
haha
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>>70212254
You don't need to nuke them. Just change the policies. Reduce the influence of the neo cons, unelected NGOs and think-tanks, the global plutocratic oligarchhy and aim for stability and moderation for the middle east, even if it means a higher oil price. The cost/benefit equation is even worse when you need wars to keep up the support of radical Islam against secular governments. 2 trillion for Iraq 2.

Generally a multi-polar world offers more peace than simply a Pax Americana and "new American century". The US and EU would still dominate the science, technology and economy of the world without being complete assholes.
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>>70212906
> DUMB FUCK, WHERE DID I EVER SAY EGYPT CARED FOR THE PALS!!

right here you insufferable faggot:

>>70211284
>It was a catch-22. If Egypt had "taken" Gaza, it would have essentially let the West Bank hanging in the breeze, and killed any hope for an independent Palestine, which is what the Pals want and have been fighting for since 1948. READ more, post less retard.
~a direct quote from YOU

so you didnt really mean any of that shit, you were just saying it because you thought it would bolster your assertions?
nahhh, youre actually a moron who doesnt understand any of this shit, but you want to shout some imprecations at the jews, and like all anti-semite faggots, you find the "plight of the pallies" a convenient stalking horse.
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>>70212862
>at last you have finally stopped insisting that egypt wants gaza back, so at least you are making progress.
Dumb fuck, go back, and READ. Never said anything of the sort.
Are you really this fucking dumb? And you sit here talking about "Hamas Rockets on Israel?" Do you know how many jews died from the "Hamas Rockets" in the last jew slaughter, a year ago last july? over 3,000, estimated 65% of them civilians.
Take a guess how many Jew civilians died from the "rockets" the pals have launched?
You built up a straw man suggesting I said anything positive about Egypt and their current leader-- the last respectable leader they had was Nasser. Sadat was killed for doing business with the Jews and selling out to the Jews, and Mubarak ruled for ~40 years with torture and a secret police with German Shepherds trained to rape male and female detainees.
You are a unique one. One star man argument after another,not at one point saying to yourself f"wow, this guy clearly knows more than I do about all this, maybe I'll at least check it out..."
What fucking sources have you provided? "Quora?" To "prove" something I never said? No, the Egyptian get never wanted Gaza, for a multitude of reason. As I keep saying READ THE CAMP DAVID AND OSLO ACCORDS and it will became clear.
Why do you think Egypt gets 1.5 billion per year from the US? To keep up the Jews Gaza blockade, to where now they've even flooded the fucking tunnels used to bring in basic supplies:
"The Egyptian army has begun to pump water from the Mediterranean Sea into underground smuggling tunnels connecting Sinai with the besieged Gaza Strip, security officials and witnesses say."


The operation on Friday aimed to end smuggling into the Palestinian territory, security officials told the DPA news agency.
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>>70204801
> The Lavon Affair
Boohoo, the Jews tried to frame the Egyptians this one time, we'll hate them forever and ever.
> USS Liberty
So I guess that you should also hate Germany for what they did in WW2??
> 9/11
Your requested roll of tinfoil was sent to you via Royal Mail Service and should arrive shortly.

> There are a laundry list
Only the Polard affair. Which you don't even really know what exactly did he do. Let's say that we're even because the CIA spied on our head of MOD with a laser microphone.
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>>70213496
>So I guess that you should also hate Germany for what they did in WW2??
Germany was our ally in WWII? That's news to me.
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>>70213160
The key is to plan in the long term for a future when you can't just depend on the export of oil. For a country then which has only few natural ressources the essential capital is their well trained, educated and qualified people. You need to find a way to integrate science and technology in the fabric of your society, reconcile it with Islamic doctrine and find a stable, conservative way to gradual progress. I think the Germany after the Marshall Plan is a good example. Social market economy is also a good policy. Just don't get poisoned by the ideologies that infested the west in the last decades. It's going to lead to even more tensions in an Islamic society, no matter how relatively moderate it is, than in the West.
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>>70213622
right, UAE is trying to be more european than it is islamic since we realized lots of foreigners are here, so we're always bringing up new ideas to raise the economy and form a better military, last month or so our sheikh of foreign affairs visited putin to discuss on military and the plans on yemen
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>>70213760
I wish you all the best. Hopefully, one day your country and all of the Middle East can enjoy stability and prosperity like Europe used to. Work hard for it, mate. Your country needs every intelligent and reasonable man.
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>>70213099
>egypt DID refuse to take gaza back.
>that is what i said, and you proceeded to deny this was a fact.
wish I could kill you though the screen. Egypt refused to take it at different times for different reasons, as i have said since the topic was raised.
If Egypt ever took it back--forget what it would cost egypt in terms of money and resources they don't have-- it would leave the West Bank completely isolated, and end any chance of the Palestinian, united state they've been fighting for since 1951.
The Jews are famous for this-- they make offers they know that no one else can possibly agree to, and then they go, hat in hand, to world and say "Oi vey! Well, we tried!"
If Morisi had been left in power-- he was going to open up the crossing permanently and even consider taking it over as Egyptian and genuinely work toward a untied Palestinian state, including East Jerusalem as the Cpaital and removal of settlements and the right of return-- he was OVERTHROWN by the Mossad and CIA, and was replaced with a military dictatorship, a Junta, lead by Al-Sis, and Morisi was jailed.
Are you a like, a rapture bunny, or a fucking retard? I notice, you aren't capable of providing a source for anything you say. How many have I provided to back up my points?
How many have you? I've spent years of my life studying this. Why am I wasting my time with you?
When I was younger, Pol (and before than, 4 chan in general) was actually a place to learn about rue but unpopular.unknown opinions.
You speak didactically as if you are a specialist in this, but you literally don't know a fucking thing about it.
In literally 6 weeks, this place has turned into a living fucking hell. You would have been shouted down by 100 people e even a month ago. YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND THE FIRST THING ABOUT ANY OF THIS.
Yo udon't know who Nasser, Sadat, Mubarak,Morisi, or al-Sisi even are. You're c pretending you are smart when you haven't a fucking clue.
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>>70213858
thanks man you too, i hope germany fixes the problem with refugees, just place them in ghost towns like what UAE does, we take the refugees and place them FAR more away from big cities like dubai,abu-dhabi, etc so luckily no attacks, but if we were to place them in big cities and allow them to roam then the burj-khalifa would be destroyed
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>>70213315
>>It was a catch-22. If Egypt had "taken" Gaza, it would have essentially let the West Bank hanging in the breeze, and killed any hope for an independent Palestine, which is what the Pals want and have been fighting for since 1948. READ more, post less retard
Exactly, that's 100% correct. It eventually cost Sadat his life, bc he was killed for being a traitor.

Sadat was not as corrupt as Mubark ended up, but even leaders who genuinely were interested in helping the Pald and would have "annexed" them regardless of cost could NOT bc it would have let the West Bank hanging and killed any plans for a Palestinian, united state.

That's 100% true, it was a catch 22 situation for people like Morisi. THAT is your big smoking gun?
Let me ask you-- for neutral observer reading this, who do you think seems to know more about this situation? Shit, let me even ask you: do you honestly think you have a better undemanding o this than I do?

It was a catch-22 for leaders like Sadat and Morisi. That's completely true. THAT is your big indictment of me? Lol, nigger, please...
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>>70213496
>> USS Liberty
>So I guess that you should also hate Germany for what they did in WW2??
you're going to compare what the Jews did to the USS liberty to anything the Germans did, during a state of war?
That's rich even coming from a Jew.
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>>70203954
>by proxy

Harry Truman?

Or are you saying it is Israel's fault for Iran being an Islamic dictatorship? Or our (US) fault for Israel? Or America's fault for backing Britain for backing the Shah who, I don't know, by being so evil or something forced his own ousting by islamists? Even though the Shah was backed by brits who fought Israeli terrorists? What do you mean, Jamal?
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>>70213496
>Your requested roll of tinfoil was sent to you via Royal Mail Service and should arrive shortly.
>> There are a laundry list
so the FBI never aid the Jews had foreknowledge of 9/11 and arrested and deported over 60 Jews, many involved with Mossad/military intelligence?
Ever hard of "Zoom Copter" or "Urban Moving and Storage?"
Where does all this come from? Alex Jones? Maybe some evil, aunty-semite midwestern media outlet?
Actually it came from Fox news in October, 2001. Here is the complete 4 part series (part 4 never aired after Abe Foxman DEMANDED it not be run, but it was already on Fox site and people saved it):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbkQddEDPs0
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>>70214536
>Or are you saying it is Israel's fault for Iran being an Islamic dictatorship? Or our (US) fault for Israel? Or America's fault for backing Britain for backing the Shah who, I don't know, by being so evil or something forced his own ousting by islamists? Even though the Shah was backed by brits who fought Israeli terrorists? What do you mean, Jamal?
you are all over the fucking place. where have the good pol/acks gone?
The CIA overthrew Mosadek at the behest of the Brits, and installed the Shah. Fuck sake, see the movie "Argo," they give an explanation for Retards in less than 4 minutes.
WTF if going on with this board, where I have to literally waste hours just trying to prove to one or two cucks what the Jews are, when this used to be common knowledge here?
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>>70213610
Neither was Israel during YKW.

> you're going to compare what the Jews did to the USS liberty to anything the Germans did, during a state of war?
> during a state of war
> War
> 1973
> Israel on the very verge of destruction by Egypt+Siria+Co.
> A spy ship arrives at Egypt/Israel waters
> Spies on Israel
> Surprised it get's attacked
> The identity of this non-friendly vessel actually matters

The fat from the burgers must put a lot of pressure on your arteries, preventing proper oxygen delivery to your brain.
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>>70203518
Ahmadinejad is a hot shit


Iran my br0s
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>>70214808
mozletov
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>>70214902
Ahalan va sahalan ya habibi.
When your guys will finely admit they like and sign peace treaty like Jordan and Egypt have already done?
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>>70214808
Fuck you. Don't insult our burgers, assface. Our burgers never did anything wrong to the Jews, nor are our history of burgers known for any blatant antisemitism which is rare for Western countries. In fact, Jews made billions off our burgers.

I know you're upset right now Moishe, but for heavens sake, leave the burgers out of this.
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>>70215076
aww 7bibi, i like israel, im going to visit there with my US passport, UAE doesnt have anything against israel, none of the gulf states do, but as long as you dont do anything to us we dont do anything to you, so we're OK, and saudi is the north korea of the gulf states so, no choice, if they choose to wage war on us then its a 4th gulf war, since russia and china supports us, but theres lots of jewish people in UAE, so its fine
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