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http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/35510-battle-over-public-monuments-to-the-confederacy-continues-in-virginia

Can they be stopped, /pol/ ? The people who want to erase my culture, my heritage, the people who want to me to have no history at all?

This makes me sad as fuck.
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>>70173577
Unfortunately, no, they can't. They are on the side of "right", which roughly translates to "This triggers me and if you disagree, you are a racist." Would we remove vietnam memorials just because we roasted kids alive? Hell no. But u racis bix nood so they get to tear down all your shit. Sorry from up North, brother.
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>>70173577
Liberals in this country are going to decimate everything it is to be white and separate. They will force us to be just like everyone else.

I'm gonna kill myself.
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>>70174204
Right there with ya man. They've already bred us out. We lost.
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>>70174204
You mean you don't want to learn everyone's pronouns and be forced to fuck a trans boi-womyn? What are you, a bigot?
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804 here. I worked at the Seven Days battlefield for a couple years after college.

Virginia is the wrong state to try this. If these monuments belong anywhere, it's here. Half the state is a shrine to the men who died on both sides. Virginia is a curated museum to the first English settlers, the home of the southern Founding Fathers, and the crucible of the Civil War. You don't get to remove things because it's fashionable to be offended.

Even liberals around here steadily agree that the Civil War was a central piece of American history, and trying to bury it is dangerous for us as a society. There are still lessons to be learned from that period, and they're still relevant today.

Build monuments to slaves. Put a stirring, prominent statue outside every government building that had slaves help build it. They deserve recognition. This is not a zero-sum game, it's American history.
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>>70173577
we should reform the confederacy if trump doesnt make it.
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>>70173577
It's cultural colonialism. If third world shitholes can beat back economic colonialism, I think you could win the argument if you really wanted to.

You're just too chicken shit to be called a racist.
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>>70175128
That's re-form, not "reform," which makes your accompanying picture with the teenage white girl extra hilarious, that's how she'd spell it.

>>70175105
540 here.
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>culture
>heritage
>the south

you're fucking american, stop pretending to be a safespace wanting special snowflake. you fucking lost the war, cunt. time to get over it.
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So how do we fight this?
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>>70175775
t. quebec
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>>70175775

Why do foreigners think they have anything to add to this topic?
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>>70175521
yea yea. i wasn't grammar checking.

how about this beauty?
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Yeah the culture of racism and systematic oppression towards people of colour. This flag not only symbolizes hate, but oppression as well. It should not belong anywhere in the soil of the United States, and should be prohibited and anyone does dare express it should be punished for their action. It's sad that the US still stuck in the 20th century mindset of racism and oppression.
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>>70175989
because they all know how good nigger cock tastes and they want to know as well
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>>70175989
Foreigner? You do realize we have the largest unprotected border in the world, right? hardly fucking foreign when it comes down to it.
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confederacy = degeneracy

the celebration of failure is anti-American
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>>70175775
fuck off cuncuck. how would you feel if america annexed your ass and we told you to stop being a special snowflake.

just because we lost the first one doesnt mean we wont win the next
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>>70176192
>win the next
lmfao not fucking likely hillbilly, it's gonna take more than your precious second amendment rights to win a war. fuck off back to looziana
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>>70176144
>>70176142
>>70176132
>>70175775


these damn maple niggers always taking the union side
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Why would anyone want to see a flag meant for white trash anyway
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>>70176512
>flag meant for white trash
buying into the yank meme.

>>70176415
dude why are you so against an independent south anyway?
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I grew up in the south. Even in Memphis it was common to see confederate flags on trucks or on people's porches. Now it is a lot less common.

I still have a bunch of shot glasses with confederate flags on them. I've picked them up at gas stations over the years. One of them is 12 inches tall. I'm going to hang on to those things because they will be ancient relics when I'm older.
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>>70176705
>meme
and this is why the rest of the world sees you as zoo animals, cute but retarded
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>my heritage
>getting btfo by niggers and liberals and being cucked for centuries

Nice heritage mate.
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>>70175775
i cant tell if this is bait or not. It sounds stupid enough but....
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>>70176451
Ikr. My brethren are Punjab sand niggers please ignore all libtard leaf posting.
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>>70176850
finn i live in rich white suburban neighborhood and there is rebel flags on plenty of homes.

people making 6 figures with stable white families = trash?

like i said its a meme.
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>>70173577
Just 30 years ago we saw the ACW as brothers vs brothers, today we see the ACW as yankee families vs dixon families. That's how divided we are.
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cool, but when can we start destroying holocaust memorials that are all over the fucking place? The jews are basically like nazis in the middle east and this triggers me very badly. We need to tear down every holocaust memorial because they promote bigotry and hatred speech against the religion of peace.
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>>70173577
Well, if you pieces of shit didn't bring them here in the first place this wouldn't be a problem now, would it?
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>>70177142
U wot.
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>>70173577
>The people who want to erase my culture, my heritage, the people who want to me to have no history at all?

Yes, that's the whole point of it all. Same shit will happen to Europe.
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>>70176451
n-not always
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>>70177000
>Redesign.jpg
0/10, try harder ontario
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>>70176061
I'm gay as Hell but damn son, get her on my team.

>>70176132
>systemic oppression
>people of "colour"

Wew lad, who invited Tumblr to this conversation?

>>70175796
You tell me, man. My whole homeland is under attack and I'm triggered as all fuck.
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>>70176705
You really think your country could survive by itself?
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>>70177330
hey man. You want the leaf?
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>>70173577
We will rise again soon brother, no worries brother.
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>>70177254
>>70177142
i'm with canadafag on this one. I have no idea what analogy you'e trying to make here.
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>openly flying a flag for a traitor organization that murdered hundreds of thousands of american soldiers and fought to deny black people the first amendment
>still in my country and hasn't been herded to the gas camps yet

Confederates are a fucking shit. You lost the fucking war after you tried to rip our union apart. Fucking deport yourself if you don't support our flag cunt.
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>>70177465
Fucking love that leaf. Fucking live for that leaf. Brush my teeth with that leaf.
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>>70177526
>our union
>our
>union

What kinda weed you smokin, bro? Pass me some, that must be some good shit to be that brain damaged and awful.
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>>70177579
Liberal quasi cuck detected. We fought 2 world wars under the red ensign. Many men sacrificed their lives for our freedom. Then the fucking liberals replace it with a leaf. And you are okay with that?
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I did my best to spark the race war, and now they're taking down my monuments!

>Me, mine, the Confederacy is mine!
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>>70177526
>fought to deny black people the first amendment

History has proven they were in the right on this one.
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What would a modern day confederate uniform look like?
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>>70177462
>You really think your country could survive by itself?

is that a joke? we'd have like 100 million people and 1/4th of americas GDP. uhhh YEA we'd survive moron.

texas alone would be as powerful economically and militarily as any european country last time i checked.
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>>70175989
Exactly!
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>>70177526
southerners support the flag more than any SJW northerner ever could. We just also would like to keep a little history...no? thats not ok? but they get to....but...
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>>70173577
Haven't you heard? You're a white male; you don't *have* culture, heritage, or history. That's why you should be happy that your country is filling with brown people; they do have culture so the nation is improved by them. This is why we encourage maximum race mixing: soon whites will be extinct, and the oppression will finally end.
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>>70177868
Whine, whine, whine. You have a culture of whining.
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>>70176415
Lol, these pentagon has already done studies that show 75% of the military comes with us in rebellion. #fuckoffmaplefag
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>>70176132
>anglos
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>>70177813
sick b8 joke dude
funny and original
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The worst part is cancelling the Dukes of Hazzard due to the flag on the General Lee.

Nobody complained about it AT ALL between 1979 and 2014 - then POOF, it suddenly became racist in a matter of a week.

It's insane. I can't recall hearing anyone complaining - not even blacks complained. From what I understand they watched the show and giggled at Boss Hog and Flash.

The jews even made a re-do a few years ago with noted clansman Johnny Knoxville and Jessica Simpson.

Sombody told the blacks they were supposed to be angry, so suddenly they got angry. That's how it works… some college professor tells somebody they should be upset about something they never realized they should be upset about, and suddenly there's a lot disharmony.
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>>70176850
Eurofags have no say in this matter. FUCK OFF!
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>>70177462
http://www.economist.com/blogs/dailychart/2011/01/comparing_us_states_countries

texas matches RUSSIA

my state georgia matches austria. florida, netherlands, north carolina, sweden.

so yes. the new "confederacy" would survive. fucking kek
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>>70173577
>Can this be stopped? Asked a thousand isolated men, already believing the bleak answer their heart gave them.
>For so proficient had they become at narrating issues, they had lost the ability to act.
>A thousand men, but there collective strength was equal to 1; divided, they fell to the hordes.
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To Kid Rock and all my other fellow pasty white Southerners:

The confederate flag is not a symbol of freedom, independence or states' rights or any of that other bullshit. It is the symbol that was adopted by rich land-owning treasonous douchebags who wanted to drag America back to the feudal era.

If the confederacy had not been crushed, we would, in some ways, be even worse off than many black slaves. You see, the assholes who wanted to keep slaves looked at poor white people as pests akin to possums or raccoons who root through the trash and leave it scattered on the front lawn. They couldn't own us and treat us however they wanted and they had slaves to do all the work that needed to be done on the land they owned. While the slaves were horribly oppressed, robbed of all their rights, beaten, raped, had their families torn apart in the name of profit and treated as little more than property, they were at least fed and clothed.

They lied to our forbears and got them to fight and die in a war to preserve their fucked-up way of life. They spoke of freedom, but what they meant was the freedom to get the Hell off their property and die of disease & starvation. If the confederacy still existed today, a very few people would own literally everything, including all the black people. What's more, a portion of their massive profits would go towards paying goons to beat the shit out of people like us. We wouldn't have educations. We wouldn't have a social safety net. We wouldn't have any hope of being anything better than penniless drifters.

Stop waving that God-damned flag around, It is not your flag. It was made by and for people who had nothing but contempt for you.

Yes, I know the Union humiliated the shit out of us after the war and we're desperate to regain some sense of pride, but pride is one of the seven deadly sins and we tend to pursue it to our own detriment. Maybe we should focus a little more on regaining our fucking dignity.
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>>70178409

lol shut up faggot
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>>70177868
Bwahaha. Funny
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>>70178409
>bait

fuck off though. you're not southern false flag cunt
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>>70177694
>muh heritage
Please, keep showing the world how you love to be cucked by monarchs and oligarchs cause you're too weak to assert your own independence.
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>>70178610
>Muh I have no culture and I want it to stay that way so punjabi can become the main language of our great and accepting nation.
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DESU no Canadian gave a fuck about confederate flag until Dylann Roof shot some niggers
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>>70175105

>Put a stirring, prominent statue outside every government building that had slaves help build it.


One huge order of zero statuary.
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>>70178728
sick vpn
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>tons of people die on both sides in VA, the epicenter for most of the war
>hurr durr you can't have monuments das raciss
Liberals should choke to death on their own self-righteousness
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>>70178934

In Shibuya-Ku.
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>>70178699
Bcfag detected
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>>70178728
A dozen or so state capitols were built by slaves.

So was the White House. And the US Capitol building. Who knows how many judiciary buildings and other offices.
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I think I posted this in one of these threads before, but I'll do it again.

My dad is a sculptor and he got hired to do a confederate soldier monument that took him many months to complete. It was a public monument in front of a public building. Simply dedicated to the soldiers who lost their lives in the war. It wasn't any particular soldier, just a monument to the dead.

It got covered in KKK! FUCK YOU! graffiti within weeks of going up.
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>>70178610
>republican throwing a hissy fit
*as the frog with glasses*
oh look here it says water is wet lol
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>>70179171
Actually Toronto fag.....
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>>70177579

You can wipe bum with leaf if no buttwipe is handy, so I don't say it has no use.
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>>70173577
>The people who want to erase my culture, my heritage, the people who want to me to have no history at all?
They keep claiming whites have no culture, and they won't stop until they're right.
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>>70179228
Either way, might as well be part of the lower 48
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>>70179317
>>70179228
>>70179199
>>70179171
>>70178722
>>70178404
>>70178136


so many fucking LEAFS. goddamn it get out of an American thread cunucks shouldn't you faggots be worshiping weed man?
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National motto for liberal Americans should be "if you cannot afford your medications Astra Zenica may be able to help"
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>>70179490
the LEAF is the most powerful population on 4chan. We will enter every thread. Many will shitpost and many will be retarded. But we are here and here to stay. You cannot stop this.
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>>70179490
Slowly annexing your thread
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>>70179773
>>70179828

its just that you faggots swarm on every american thread. how badly do you want to be americans ffs
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>>70179199
>as frog with glasses
fucking dying
newfags gonna newfag
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>>70179872
Eh... Not really bro. I mean I like America and have been there many times but I don't want to live there. We just like American politics better.
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>>70179773
>http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/35510-battle-over-public-monuments-to-the-confederacy-continues-in-virginia
>cut out the british
>cut out the scots
>cut out the french
>cut out everything but a fucking leaf
>tell us we have no culture after raising a generation without teaching them their history
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>>70178409

Slavery was totally controlled by the Jews because it is derived the Curse of Ham. When the time comes smash everything moving Jewish until it moves no more.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGG_RrYVCPA
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>>70180220
We don't have culture though. Multiculturalism is not culture. The country is a great place to live. Very tolerant and nice. But really I feel like I don't belong and I can't connect with the country on any deeper level. Like when I went to Israel I could feel the land beneath my feet calling to me. I could feel the land holding me. It felt special.
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>>70179872
So bad that were making all your threads canadian af. Just wait till you're chugging maple syrup and playing hockey. You'll thank me later
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>>70174204
>I'm gonna kill myself.
That is what they want
do the opposite
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>>70180492
>We don't have culture though

i feel like this is why people from the north and canadians shit on us every time "dixie" comes up. you guys think you dont have any culture.

the south does though.
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>>70179185

Total bullshit they were of little import and contribution. Muh "built by slaves"! What a fucking silly mook are you.
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>>70180492
>canadians have no culture
>t. kike
Ontarians have no culture. The maritimers, the german, irish and scottish prairie settlers, even teh natives, they have culture. and because you eastern fucks have never experienced it you don't think there's anything to lose when you vote for weed and pakis by the bushel.
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>>70180647
Fucking dare you to try and survive a Canadian winter. You'll be praying for your fucking Dixie land then
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>>70173577

Stay alert, but do not panic.

Virginia has a state law against the removal of war memorials.
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>>70180751
sooo you guys hate us because we have nice weather?
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>>70180751
>you are lacking in culture
>we have cold weather
UMMM...?!?!?!
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>>70180403
Reasonable proposition. I like
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Where in VA is this?
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>>70180713
I didn't vote for weed t. nigger. Okay fucking hell man. I didn't want this. I understand that there is culture in Canada but it is so small and our cities are all uncultered shitholes.
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>>70180838
Nah. Don't hate the south. Just think it's a bit ridiculous how hardcore you think you guys are
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>>70180751

Kay. You come enjoy an American Spring-summer in one of the many swamps and marshes of the Southern U.S.

If the pollen spores and mosquitoes don't eat you alive the baking humidity will.
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>>70180663
They're symbols of state authority built by enslaved laborers.

Individuals have no immediate responsibility to the actions of their ancestors, but a state is an institution. Working in an institution with a pretense of freedom at least warrants acknowledging the hypocrisies of the past and discussing how they happened and how we can improve.

That's what the Civil War discussion is about. Memorializing the people who died in it is pretty empty without examining why they did.
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>>70180838
we get a giggle whenever Austin gets shut down by white dust, is all

>>70181012
it's not too late

[email protected]
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>>70181101
>implying we don't have that here
shows how much you know about canada
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>>70181359
lmao dude its me I am NPC
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>>70173577
>place armed Dixie guards surrounding the monuments

problem solved
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>>70181077
>Canada

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHA FUCKING LEAF HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

yeah lol this is coming from the country with Trudeau as your "leader", lol, tough guy, canada, real tough guy.
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>>70181077
>how hardcore you think you guys are

maybe texans. but they are not the same kind of southerner.
>>70181359
texas doesnt even count like i told him m8.
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>>70181418

You want to pull a northern winter card, we'll pull the southern summer card.
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>>70181164

What about the white slaves you vile critical theorist? Fuck off....you need to be shuttled to a place where you can practice concentrating within a fence forever. How's Ballermorgue?
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>>70174204
Why would you simply kill yourself? That's such a waste.
Kill them, and kill as many as you can.
Then kill yourself or let the police kill you.
But first, shoot as many of them as you can. When the rooms clear out walk over to them and shoot them in the head. Make sure they die.
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>>70173577
Let this be a lesson to you. If you ever give an inch, they will take a mile.
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>>70181642
>still part of the USA even though much butthurt.jpg

Pls, go on
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>>70176132
Oh yeah, I forgot Cucknada and Yurop don't have freedom of speech.
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>>70177526
Yank here and I think you're a fucking faggot. If they want to leave the union, let them leave and do their own thing. This "union" is objectively terrible and it would be good to let them have their own identity, their own culture and rule themselves on a local level without the northern oppression of massive numbers. This isn't anywhere close to being about slavery, as if it ever really was. Almost every European country abolished slavery without much or any bloodshed. This is about much more, and in my estimation, the southerners are the ones that are true to our founding fathers' ideals.
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>>70173577
I grew up in Alabama and I fucking hate the south, and OP I think you're most likely a raging fucking faggot. But even with that said, I think this shit is going way too far. I support removing the Confederate flag from government buildings, but god damn, the war was an actual thing that actually happened, and the southern soldiers were Americans too...
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Oklahoman here, my family came to Indian Territory after the Civil War for a new life, my family has been in the South since first arriving in South Carolina in 1722. Oklahoma is Southern territory as well, I can assure you that you have our loyalty. Fuck the Yankees
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>>70181879
its people like you letting the south lose its identity. you're really ok with us becoming liberal states like california or new york?

smfh even supporting them taking down the flag. they dont give a damn about the south.
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>>70176451
Uncensored pls
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>>70182549
Second this. that blush. Canada is QT 3.14
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>>70182549
this
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>>70173577
Can't you still put it on the back of your lifted truck? :(
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>>70180713
Even British Columbia had culture. Our colonial era gold rush, Nanaimo bars, and even our folklore, such as Ogopogo, Sasquatch, etc. Whoever says Canada is culture less is an idiot
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>>70182523
>you're really ok with us becoming liberal states like california or new york?
If you stay in the US, yes you should absolutely do that. If you were allowed to secede then I'd no longer really have an opinion.
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>>70180751
Try a 99-110 degree texas summer with humidity at 40-60%.
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>>70173577
That guy has the shortest bicep I've ever seen.
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>>70181713
>I refuse to acknowledge massive trends in american history because there are granular details that I can use to refute anything that challenges the way I feel

Why do white slaves make slavery ok?
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>>70181662
The southern summers are basically Albertan summers. Alberta is a dust bowl in the summer in my opinion. T. Guy whose never been
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>>70181658
Nah we aren't, we joined in to fight the Union because we had some slaves and were grateful for the aid that largely the south gave to fight mexico. Some parts of Texas adhere to that southern culture but for the most part we go our own way.
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>>70182927
Here in chilliwack we do for some reason.
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>>70183209
Southern Summers aren't that dry
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Fuck i hate SJWs.
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>>70183417
In a lot of places they're ungodly humid.
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>>70174204
people are fucking your shit up, and you'll shown them by.... killing yourself?

Are you sure your american? You sound more like a canadian.
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>>70183209

You apparently lack reading comprehension. Summers in the American deep-south or tide-water area are like South-east Asia.

Hot, humid, and full of bugs.
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League of the South Defends Confederate Monument In Gainesville, FL
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>>70183443
Why is any American worried about the ISIS flag? Those inbred goat fuckers pose no real threat to us.
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>>70183417
I mean heat man, I've been to spicland in summer, so I know what you mean by how hot it is, but Alberta? I'd say it's about the same.
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I hate how the U.S. gets a lot of shit from within and globally for being one of the last to abolish slavery even though we owned barely 3 percent of the worlds slaves at best.
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>>70183460
That's what I said/implied
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>>70181164
Most of the Northerners simply didn't give a fuck about blacks. Even Lincoln thought they were literally 3/5ths human.
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>>70183209
Southern summers are humid, scalding hot and thunderstorms everyday.
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>>70179490

How about you slobr on my knob while I chime in anywhere/anyhow I want.

Sound like a plan?

Good.
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>>70183580
Exactly, besides a random terror attack in a city you pay no mind to, does anyone expect an ISIS invasion force landing on the east coast coming soon? They can't sneak in a fucking army.
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>>70183582
Southern summers are incredibly hot and humid its alot different than fucking Alberta
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>destroying culture, heritage
So libtard == ISIS?
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>>70175105
804 here as well
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>>70183584
>even though we owned barely 3 percent of the worlds slaves at best.
Not only that, but we probably treated them the best slaves have ever been treated in history. I mean fuck, slaves were expensive as shit. Everyone likes to post the picture of the slave with a torn up back from whipping, but the employee that did that to him got punished for it because the slave was essentially expensive farm equipment.
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>>70183598
I was just agreeing with you bro
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>>70183312
ive only met a few texans on here that weren't pretentious as fuck.
you're right about not being the same
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>>70183686
Canadians somehow believe the climate of a region must closer to the equator is somehow comparable to the climate of somewhere much closer to the arctic circle than Louisiana or Texas.
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>>70183715
We lost our gratefullness, we sided with you because the confederate generals were the generals that defeated mexico and ensured texas safety. Many of your men and horses came from here though, I'm glad you didn't try to detract from our contributions to the war.
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>>70183199
lui marco has shorter and higher ones. they look like tennis balls
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>>70183711
You wouldn't buy an expensive car and key the fuck out of it when it overheats one day.
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>>70183684
ok, so isis only poses minimal danger because of isolated terrorist attacks than only injure a few people, kill even less. in contrast to that small thread, what great danger does the confederate flag pose?
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>>70183195
I'd fucking lap that shit up. Play road hockey all year bitch
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>>70173577
So pick up your guns and fight back

Oh....
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>>70184010
I mean it doesn't bother me, but most Canadians I've met complain about it constantly.
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>>70179872

Look around dicksmack, everyone comments everywhere.

If you don't like it go talk to your sister or something.

If we really 'wanted to be americans' we WOULD HAVE BEEN AMERICANS like a century or two ago. But that doesn't seem to happen does it …why IS that doodledandyboy?

Now fuck off and stop being a little buttblasted, weasley little fucktard prick…

Thank you.
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>>70173577
Christ, I would ride this hunk's monument all night
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>>70177526
Daily reminder that the Union literally did nothing wrong, and if they hadn't won, the Jew-controlled British Empire would have taken back both the north and the south after we weakened ourselves by separating, which was their plan.
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>>70183802
You've never even been here or even read about anywhere in this beautiful home and native land of mine. Shut. The. Fuck. Up.
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slightly off topic but the south is the real tornado alley. they don't happen as often as they do in the midwest, but when outbreaks happen in southern states they are really, really bad

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ohIVzIZLuQ
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>>70184007
The flag poses no threat at all, but Isis clearly poses a slight threat and wins by default, I love the CSA I think you misinterpreted my post.
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>>70184085
Depends on where they are from. Prairie folk are more adaptable than bcfags or easternfags
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>>70184182

There is no good reason for removing memorials, no matter how much international jewry was involved.
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>>70184211
Jesus fuck, you're some kind of special aren't you.
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>>70184314
I agree 100%, history and culture must be preserved, and SJWs belong in the oven.
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>>70173577
We as a people get shit on more than anyone else in the US. Nobody cares about Southerners, because to them we are traitors. We're idiots, mongrels, inbred illiterates, ignorant racists, and foolish troublemakers. Now the federals have stuck their long icy fingers into the spine of our state politics and are trying to oppress us further.

We fought in one of the most brutal wars in American history where we slinged bullets at our own, and we'll always be remembered as the ones that instigated it. Despite the fact that most of the people here weren't fighting for the right to keep slaves, but the right to govern themselves. We've been the victims of an absolute sham, but we aren't pussies. The average Confederate soldier didn't march to the front lines because of any moral values or some pretty notion of what just war is.

He marched because he wanted to kick faggot Yankee ass, and if any of you Yankee's want to prove you aren't faggots then let's stand shoulder to shoulder like we should have done and kick faggot ass together, along with any of our international friends who are tired of being pussyfied by their governments. Kick their shit in until they go crying back to their safe spaces.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5HeZtFH1Trg
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>>70184093
>buttblasted

irony m8.
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>>70184356
Says the cuck who don't know shit about canada
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>>70173577
>mfw the liberal agenda oppresses the average white American and forces segregation once again
>mfw we revolt
>mfw the south will rise again and win
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>>70177142
lol

>>70178310
>>70177837

The moment you guys declared independence (without bloodshed), The south would loose the Pacific Coast, losing the majority of trade USA does. And don't forget the niggers. Loads, and loads of niggers
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>>70183200
because who gives a shit about niggers
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>>70183802

Who fucking cares most of texas is a barren arid nightmare.

Who cares. That's how god made it.

Canada is somewhat north and therefor has a colder climate.

Again who cares.

Maybe you should sell alaska and the plains for a dollar ninety-nine - they are much colder than where I live.

But AGAIN who fucking cares.

Florida is too humidwhofuckincares… it is what it is
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>>70184484
>gets told he's wrong
>"DON'T TALK TO ME OR MY COUNTRY AGAIN!"
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>>70184457
good post.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__kQX12S9YI
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Why are Southerners so proud of their 2nd place "at least you tried" ribbon?
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>>70184509
Niggers we can now get rid of thanks to no more Union.
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HOLD ON ONE GODDAMN MINUTE
I know it's late in the thread but someone really needs to redpill me on why the south wasn't fucking retarded. Save the racist shit for a minute and give me one goddamn reason why I shouldn't jack off to pictures of General Sherman every night because the Union did nothing wrong.
I offer some /k/ themed imagery as payment for your troubles.
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>>70184580
Well you certainly don't care but the person I was talking to did.
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>>70184616
Why won't northerners and commiefornians stop moving here and jacking up real estate values and bringing their progressive politics with them when it was those same politics that priced them out of the places they came from?
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>>70184509
>The south would loose the Pacific Coast, losing the majority of trade USA does

source? you are way underestimating the trade the south does.

>And don't forget the niggers. Loads, and loads of niggers

they'd move north pretty quick if we went independent
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>>70184616
Because the South actually stood up for their Constitutional rights and did nothing wrong, yet were completely destroyed for it and were dismantled post war. Now the liberals and yanks would try and take our heritage away again, and disrespect the men who fought and died for their honorable beliefs
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>>70184603
>uneducated americuck with no rebuttal
Not even close
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>This thread
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>>70181642
>Americans talking about leaders

You have a nigger mutt for president

Trudeau is white at least
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>>70184842
Alright fine, Alberta in the summer is on par with Louisiana, thanks for filling me in on that info. Tell me, since they're the same, what's your humidity levels like?
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>>70175105
256 here. Have civil war heroes in my family tree. Now people are taking down Confederate flags and monuments just because their offended.

>>70175128
I agree. If Hillary wins, all the retarded gun laws and shit will be continuing. President Washington once said that if the government ever tried to takes our right to bear arms that it was our responsibility to fight back. I know for a fact that this election won't end without riots. There will be some angry people no matter who wins.
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>>70173577

>isisdestroyshisoticalmonuments.jpg
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>>70173577

They will be stopped when we put a bullet in the head of every last Yankee parasite and not a moment before.

The Only Solution to Yankeery is the Final Solution.

Kill all Unionists now. It's the only way to save the South.
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>>70184782
Does the South have any state with shore on the Pacific? If the states closed the Panama canal the south would starve.

>you are way underestimating the trade the south does.

That is what i am talking

>they'd move north pretty quick if we went independent

Yeah, sure
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>>70184630
The south was screwed over by Robert E. Lee. He was not for the southern cause. His heart wasn't in the war and he made rash decisions. His subordinate general; general Longstreet was his yin and yang. Lee was offensive and Longstreet was defensive. Lee ignored Longstreet and invaded the north with the largest confederate force. The were narrowly defeated in Gettysburg after Picketts heroic charge was barely repulsed by the union army who took the high ground. By then it was all downhill because Lee had lost his army. The confederates were on the run slowly trying to drain the union who used irish immigrants to fill the emptying slots of true americans the confederates had killed. The only advantage the union had over the confederates was not tactics, but ruthlessness. Ulysses S. Grant said that being a good officer meant letting a lot of men die. Eventually Sherman began using his tactics of total destruction against civilian targets. He rarely fought anyone other than some militia in the georgian woods. Don't worship or praise Sherman. His tactics became the hallmark of war crimes in the future and arguably destroyed the last remaining ounce of chivalry in war.
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>>70184913
I just looked it up and it's 88% humidity in the morning and around 60% in the afternoon on average for the major cities of Louisiana.
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>>70185253
dude we dont need it. do you have a coast in the pacific? no. its irrelevant. the south does more trade with the western countries.

you're underestimating the resources we have to sustain ourselves too. the south combined is nearly continental Europe size. its ridiculous to think we need a pacific coast to survive at all.
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>>70176144
>>70175775
>>70176132
>>70176900

>This coming from dumb maple niggers

Go fuck a moose you Trudeau loving faggots.
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>>70185321
>destroyed the last remaining ounce of chivalry in war.

meme tier. There is no chivalry when a man is fighting for his life. Get on real life. And stop romantizing past times
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>>70185515
And some Canadian wants to tell me that his dry summers are exactly like ours. shaking my head to be honest family.
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>>70185547
There is a little bit of respect to be given when troops try to ignore civilian targets rather than engage them. Can you at least acknowledge that?
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>>70185547
The thing is, this was in a time where war was like chess. Yeah it sounds stupid as fuck, but there was a mutual respect on the battlefield between enemy factions, where they would at least be honorable. Sherman through all that shit out the window.
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>>70175128

I'm voting for Trump in the hopes that he causes the mother of all leftist chimpouts and ignites another Civil War that destroys the Union once and for all.
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>>70185532
Ok, have it your way. Just don0t think a independence movement would not end in poverty and hunger (at least temporaly).

>>70185533
Go suck a half muslim nigger son dick. Truly the american way, fuck a nigger, have a baby and let the father run
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The confederacy were literally Traitors to the United States of America. There should be no trace of them anywhere, especially in publicly funded spaces. I find it funny how rednecks complain about Mexicans flying their flag, but fly a literal flag of Treason all day long.
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>>70185321
Okay then fuck Sherman for the sake of this.

The south were rebels. Fuck their monuments. Ignore the racism part. They were traitors. Why should we have monuments. It's the same reaction to the fuckhead who couldn't join the Marine Corps because of a Confederate battle flag tattoo. Why would you want to join the military if you openly support a country that during its entire existence fought against the country you're now planning to serve.

Fuck the south. They were traitors and nothing more. Every one of those officers should have had to turn in their sabres to the union to be melted down to make a statue celebrating a Union victory.
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>>70175989
John Oliver is a disgrace to the English people

Piers Morgan has intelligence than Oliver or any of his retarded fans (most especially my mother) combined.
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>>70185781
>The confederacy were literally Traitors to the United States of America
>This is what liberals and yankees believe
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>>70185825
>Raise Rebellion against the British Crown over tea and taxes
>Complain about treason

Northerners are literally this retarded
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>>70185781
The constitution is written so that revolutions are possible and a necessary thing at certain times. What would you say if we had been snuffed out in the revolutionary war? That the continental congress were traitors and all traces of them should be destroyed?
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>>70185825
>Every one of those officers should have had to turn in their sabres to the union to be melted down to make a statue celebrating a Union victory.
You realize that part of the surrender conditions included the complete pardon of all Southern confederates. The war would have continued if not for that.
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>>70173577
yeah pussy start killing them and they will learn that if they fuck with history people will die.
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>>70185772
>This coming from the Portugese

Your whole race is nothing but repulsive half-breeds.

It's a shame Hitler didn't gas every last one of you freaks.
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>Getting rid of confederate traitor-loving statutes from the south
>/pol/: WHAT ABOUT CULTURE AND HISTORY!?
>Getting rid of communist traitor-loving statues from Poland
>/pol/: YOU'RE DOING GOD'S WORK POLAND! KURWA!

Never change /pol/

>inb4 >/pol/ is a single person

Yeah, but the threads happened around the same time last week and there is definitely a large amount of people that would fall into both groups above on /pol/
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>>70185781
3edgy5me m8 not t8kg the b8
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Northernors really shouldn't even be butthurt by the losses they suffered, they were mostly new irish immigrants.
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>>70185253
No, because of Mexico. Geography, get with it Ronaldo.
>>70185321
Yet he was one of our greatest generals and could give a sheet of paper with five words to Jackson and he'd understand the orders just fine. Lee wasn't the problem. He didn't have any decent subordinates by Gettysburg. If you look at the Confederacy's track record they did well early in the war. Also, the Union weeded out a lot of their moronic leaders as the war went on. The ones that couldn't win.

If you'd like to hear a poetic presentation of what the early part of the civil war was like, then here you are: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nAFUKOB1kfA
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>>70185623
>There is a little bit of respect to be given when troops try to ignore civilian targets rather than engage them. Can you at least acknowledge that?

They evade civilians when they can afford to. If soldiers are starving, they will steal from the civilians. If the war is going badly, then they might send the trops to slaughter some civilians to lower opponent morale.

In my country we have a saying : "In love and War everything is alowed"

>>70185668
>Yeah it sounds stupid as fuck
Because it is. When you grow up and stop thinking Holiwood is not true you will cringe on the thought of you writting this words
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>>70185772
>would not end in poverty and hunger

>HUNGER
>POVERTY?

you dont know america very well m8 we can def feed ourselves. we make a shitload of food.

there wouldnt be any more poor people than right now. (might actually be better off considering how much the fed takes)
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>>70173577
>m-muh culture 'n' heritage
>literally YEEHAW, inbreeding and slavery
Kill yourself.
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>>70184225
I remember that. We were three hours north of Tuscaloosa. I also remember seeing the debris flying everywhere. At one point I saw a fucking two by four spinning in the sky.
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>>70186102
I personally don't think he was all that great, and I mean that in forethought wise. It would have been easier to defend than to attack, that seems pretty obvious but he wanted to end the war.
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>>70184485
We need to be through the next time. And by through, I mean we burn Washington DC to the ground, put every last Yankee criminal and collaborator up against the wall, and kill them.
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>>70177421

I'm a gay Southerner too. My family fought for the Confederacy and I hate seeing my heritage suffer at the expense of liberals' ignorance and lack of commitment to this country's history.

desu even though they would scorn me for it if this was the 1800s I wish I could settle down with a nice Southern Confederate boy desu
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>>70186031
>A american calling anyone half breeds

I can trace my ancestry back to at least 6 or 7 generations and all of those were Portuguese. Can you say the same?

>inb4 american ethicity

>>70186069
Logic is not a thing common to the majority of American posters here. They are guided by "muh feels" to a even large extent then "libruls"
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>>70186069
>implying commie statues from an INVADING force is the same as southern culture in its own land

"Never change /pol/"
hopefully /pol loses complete dipshits like yourself.
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>>70185976
Absofukinglutely, I understand that. If we had crushed them then we wouldn't have to hear half of the bullshit now from the south. So yes. I understand the war would have dragged on. I understand the sheer carnage and loss of life but a half ass victory was the result of half of the problems we have today. Not to mention that if we had continued fighting for a few years more, our nation would have completely lost its taste for war for at least 4 generations.
That means we never would have entered WWI. There's a good chance that world war 1 would have ended totally differently. Allies may have won, maybe not but Germany would never have been humiliated so Nazis would have never happened.
No Nazis, no WWII.
This means Fascism actually gets a chance under Mussolini.
Hitler ruined even the thought of mentioning fascism in a positive light in polite company for a thousand years.
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>>70173577
Why put up statues to traitors, racists, and people that lost wars?

Not a lot of hitler memorabilia in germany these days.

Not a lot of king george statues up here in the USA.

Fuck all y'all and your pride in being the descendants of people that didn't deserve to be part of this great country but were 'invited' back anyway.

You can have history without a fucking statue.
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>>70186315
>Logic is not a thing common to the majority of American posters here. They are guided by "muh feels" to a even large extent then "libruls"

agreeing with a faggot that made a terrible comparison like communist statues in poland to confederate statues in the south.

fedora tippers need to get back to plebbit
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>>70185825
>Fuck the south. They were traitors and nothing more.
Thanks, Union. As usual, you're dedicated to keeping absolute peace in the country I see.
>>70186247
All the south needed to do was defend, but even on the defensive that doesn't mean you can't make gains by going on the offensive. Ending the war as soon as possible is always in a nation's best interests, but the confederates overestimated their position from early victories in my opinion.

I wouldn't say he's terribly great in the span of history, but he was one of the best we as a brief nation had.
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>>70186322

Technically, then, you should be defending Native sites, right? If it's about originalism.

Oh wait, those were demolished by your faggot President that you dicksuck, Jackson.
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>>70186506
Upvoting this post.
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>>70186102
>No, because of Mexico. Geography, get with it Ronaldo.

wat?

>>70186153
Revolutions always end up in hunger or poverty, unless there is major international help.

I say that The south would be isolated politically in it's beggining, and the infrastructure, beaurocracy and what not would have to be reseted. You cannot possibly think that no negatives would come out of this?

>we can def feed ourselves. we make a shitload of food.
This is not the point, but well, arguing with american retards inbred Cletus is not very rewwarding
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>>70184943
They aren't taking them down because they're offended. They're taking them down because they weren't 'heroes'. They were losers and traitors that fought to own people as pets and should be vilified, or at least quietly shamed. As should those that remember them fondly.
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I never get why yankees try to pile on the south during these stupid confederate debates. Don't they realize that when the leftists are done with the confederates flag/statues/names they're going to turn on the north too?
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>>70176132
>>70176144
>>70177526
Someone needs a history lesson on states' rights. Perhaps then an actual argument can then be made before you shout out muh oppressions.
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>>70186599
Hey there, dubs. +1 was totally a thing on 4chan a long, long time ago. In the days before the upvote. Lurk more newfag.
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>>70186554
you realize there's monuments to native americans fucking everywhere right?
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>>70186268

Based Fag
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>>70186509
It's a very good analogy, but thank god we have ID so i can completely discard your inbred nigger blood opinion.
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>>70186512
Back then ending the war "by Christmas" was a common thing but the sheer scale of the war made that really unlikely.
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>>70186632
You yourself are a yank you little ungrateful faggot.
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>>70186315

And all 7 generations are niggers.
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>>70186609
You wanted to know if we had anything with shore on the pacific right? Do I need to post a map of the Western hemisphere or will you admit you're not wholly retarded?
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>>70179490
I've always liked the confederacy, can I stay?
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>>70186709

>http://www.southernstudies.org/2009/09/wal-marts-history-of-destroying-sacred-sites.html

> the 1,500-year-old sacred and archaeologically significant site was partially demolished during a taxpayer-funded economic development project

Literally first result on google.
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>>70173577
Just another step down the stairs to full on European style white guilt.
You think it's bad in America now? You fags haven't seen anything yet.
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>>70177526
>whining about the first amendment
>actively trying to deny the first amendment to southerners

we can fly the flag if we want faggot, also we bailed your ass out during the revolution so fuck off.
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>>70186506
>Not a lot of hitler memorabilia in germany these days.

Fuck off Northern parasite. Your fucking corporations were funneling money to the Nazis faster than they were gassing Jews.
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>>70186554
>Technically, then, you should be defending Native sites, right?
no dumbass, your caste iron reasoning is ridiculous. natives are no longer in the south. not in any large number. southern culture and southern people are still very much alive and here.

>Oh wait, those were demolished by your faggot President that you dicksuck, Jackson.

ohhhh thats great. lets pretend it wasnt the union that pushed west and did most of the slaughtering. we were going to give oklahoma as a native confederate state. (which it still kinda ended up being)

and what makes you think i give a shit about jackson? i dont care if he was the CSA president the guy wasnt great.
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>>70186742
Unlikely for sure. My study of the war hasn't been as thorough as I like, you're saying Lee thought he'd end it by then?
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>>70186268
I-I want a gay confederate boy pls
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>>70173577
And libcucks compare us to ISIS...
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