Jonguhs... Nederdraad!
Today we vote on the association treaty with Ukraine. What did you vote/intend to vote?
Here are some pro and counter arguments.
Cons:
Article 10: we promise mutual defence between the EU and Ukraine.
Article 19: Visa free travel between EU and Ukraine, facilitating illegal immigration, drug traficking and prostitution.
Article 23: unlimited financial aid. Were Ukraine to need it, the EU has to bail them out. Just like Greece.
Pros:
None, you fucking commie!
DUS, LANDGENOOT! STEMT HEDEN TEGEN!
Conclusie van vorige draad: Stem VNL, alle andere partijen zijn links.
Done
Voted against
WALEN BUITEN
>>70108590
>Rutte's face when we hit the 30% treshold
Belgiƫ is TEGEN.
Vote against, you dumb colgates. Uncuck yourselves.
:^)
>>70108590
Explain me one thing.
What happens if you vote no?
Why you negerlanders not just vote on exit from EU? We will be okay in Europe Union what consist of east European countries only.
Seriously, this is an excellent opportunity for the EU to dump this Ukroshit pet project. They tried and failed and it's time to admit it, like big geopolitical players do.
>>70108590
Hasn't the treaty the USA made between the Ukraine and russia post-ussr break up been irrevocably violated? Shouldn't the USA with Europe tagging along, already be at war with Russia?
>>70108854
Ik hoop dat je dat stembiljet verbrand hebt en een nieuwe hebt aangevraagd.
>>70108590
>getting access to ukraine prostitutes.
>con
found the faggot
>>70108875
With the pact made in Warsaw. Right comrade? ;^)
>>70108875
Because that wouldn't accomplish anything.
Were people to start a referendum to leave the EU, it would likely fail.
If anything, this is a stepping-stone towards that and it is a lot more likely to succeed.
>>70108875
First this, then the brexit. Feeding Euroskepticism won't work if you do it all at once.
>>70108862
Nothing much. The treaty probably still passes, but we get a justification to demand our government fuck off, and it creates further precedent for anti-EU sentiment.
>>70108875
We are not allowed to ask for a referendum on the EU. Thats a specific provision of the referendum law. The govetnment knew that if they let us hold a referendum on membership, we'd demand one in a heartbeat. And we'd probably vote to leave too.
>>70108875
Excellent idea actually. The Netherlands, Germany, France, UK and Austria all vote to exit the EU. Ukraine enters the EU but the major donors are all out. Who is Ukraine going to beg for money, my dear Mykola?
>>70108875
Sorry Ukraine, I love you, but we have to vote against. It's the right thing to do.
Wait are we the only ones that are voting for this? Why just us? This is for the EU right?
>>70109124
Because usually nobody gets a say in this.
>>70108854
Helpt voor de opkomstcijfers.
>>70109124
Yes, it's concerning the EU. We demanded to vote for it.
However, please note that this referendum is non-binding, meaning it's results can be ignored by the government.
>>70109054
>Nothing much. The treaty probably still passes,
So basically your vote is useless. Basically you are not a democracy. Even Sandniggers from the Middle East fight their government and in Europe nobody cares. Life just goes on.
top
fucking
kek
>>70108882
That means strongest political and military ties between Ukraine and United States. You all be surrounded by USA puppets and we will try to fuck all your international trades just because we can, like big geopolitical players do.
>>70109124
Very few countries have laws that allow the people to demand a referendum. The brits for instance had to rely on the Tories making an election promise (under UKIP pressure) for a referendum on the EU.
Our own Referendum law only dates from june 2015.
>>70109227
>comparing the middle eastern ''governments'' with ours
>it is somehow equal in your mind
top kek
>>70109246
will you make another maidan if they say "no"?
>>70109223
>meaning it's results can be ignored by the government.
You're saying we're screwed either way then?
>>70109246
We *are* USA puppets, you dumb Hohol. Thats one of the reasons we dont want to be in the EU.
>>70108875
>Why you negerlanders not just vote on exit from EU?
Because our economy does benefit from the EU due to the free trade within the EU. I dislike the power the EU has over us but I can't deny that it has boosted our economy.
>>70109227
Yup, just like it was when we voted against the treaty of Lisbon.
>>70109246
Joke is on you
We ourselves are a USA puppet
TEGEN
E
G
E
N
does anybody have a pony-figure?
>>70108590
I'm still in doubt; A 'yes' helps the oligarchs like soros and won't do us any good. However, I also feel sympathetic towards the ukrainians. Then again, maybe they should get their shit together first.
>>70109324
Not necessarily. If they were to ignore the referendum and agree to the agreement anyways, more people would become Eurosceptic. It would be political suicide for the government and Brussels.
>>70109227
You act like Switzerland doesn't have the same problem with some issues.
Remember when we voted to put a halt to immigration and kick out criminal immigrants?
And then once more?
...And then again?
Sometimes it's just little things. Sometimes, you just lay the framework down. The base.
>>70109246
No Mykola. The US is already balls deep into Ukrainian politics and military so there's no need to involve the EU in this anymore. I'm just wondering why the EU would allow the US to create another Libya right on its doorstep.
>>70109063
>Ukraine going to beg for money, my dear Mykola?
I don't care about your savings, Mehmet. I want not to be isolated from my west neighbors, who currently in EU
>>70109458
I also feel like it's just one big propaganda war and I don't know who's shilling who anymore. I think whatever we choose it will bite us in the ass later on.
>>70108768
>yfw they discuss the vote and go ahead with their plans anyways
>>70109458
Eh, they will get their trade treaty anyway. We just wont send them our money or defend them. Nor will they get visa free travel.
>>70109300
malieveld full of ukrainians, fml
>>70109603
Will fuel anti-EU sentiment and evaporate support for the government. If they ignore a no vote a Brexit will be more likely in June.
>>70109469
Nah Switzerland is cucked as much as any other states. It's even worse in a political sense.
We are a pseudo member of the EU, we have to follow everything but we don't have any right to a say in the parliament. We would be better off if we join the EU actually.
The only difference in Switzerland at the moment is that the average person is happy and rich so nobody cares about Switzerland losing its democratic values.
>>70109517
This "isolation" purely exists in your mind, thanks to Ukrainian mass media, you absolute dumbfuck. The Russians aren't against tighter cooperation between Ukraine and the EU. It's only a problem because you let batshit insane fascists seize power and start a witch hunt against ethnic Russians.
>>70109686
ah! so the maidan will be in Amsterdam!
>>70109718
Here's hoping, Jan.
>>70109795
Who cares about russian mongoloids? I mean my friends from Hungary, Poland, Baltic countries and Romania.
>>70109517
Im scared of ukrabots, this one is probably missing half his brain and probably high af on whatever us military is giving them, nasty shit. Do you want these psychopathic braindead apes in your territory, eu.rope? Think again
what do the 30% mean?
>>70109280
It's a fair comparison.
>>70110048
30% of the population has to show up to the ballot box for the referendum to be valid.
>>70110131
how much is it now?
>>70108590
>Stem VNL
Is dat een goed idee?
Ik heb nog niet veel van ze gehoord, maar iedere partij die tegen de EU is krijgt van mij een kans.
>>70110175
was around 7% at 13.00 Moscow time
>>70110131
ok i had kipkorn today ... that should be enough to vote in the referendum right?
Ik en mijn famillie hebben geen stempas gekregen heb wel ongeveer 10 mensen overgehaald om te stemmen
>>70110197
Bontes is gebaseerd als de neuk
>>70110292
add a frikandel and a steaming pile of pommes speciale and youre basically dutch.
>>70110344
Dien een klacht in bij je gemeente.
Er gaat sowieso een hoop gedoe komen over het verloop van dit referendum. Veel te veel ongeregeldheden.
>>70110345
source?
>>70110131
also: 30% has to either turn in blank/for/against.
invalid votes are discarded and don't count for the 30%.
hence the fucked up ballots
>>70110344
>Ik en mijn famillie hebben geen stempas gekregen
Waarom ben je niet naar je gemeente geweest om een nieuwe te halen? Kon dat niet?
>>70110211
fuck you Radio Svoboda liberashka-pidor.
+15
Although the referendum is about the association agreement with the Ukraine the outcome doesn't really change anything for the Ukraine itself. 27 out of 28 countries in the EU have already ratified this association agreement and the Netherlands does not have a veto on this matter. Whatever the outcome of the referendum the treaty will pass anyway be it with a slight delay and/or a minor modification to the association agreement.
The best we can hope for is a more defined/outlined description of the actions Ukraine will have to take to battle corruption and improve living standards for its population.
The consequences of a 'no' is nothing short of disastrous for the current government as ignoring it would mean political suicide and abiding by it would mean we'd lose face in the EU because we're suddenly backing out of something we previously agreed upon. Rather funny, since we currently hold the Presidency of the council of the EU.
>>70110423
>>70110372
i got pic related in the fridge so i should be fine
>>70109795
I am the ethnic russian, by the way.
>>70110197
Lage belasting (geen erfenis belasting, vlak taks van 21%, geen BTW), kleine overheid, meer geld voor defensie, minimale uitkeringen, gesloten grenzen, anti-immigratie en vrij nationalistisch (Ze heten Voor Nederland voor een reden, hƩ).
Libertair-nationalistisch, zou je ze kunnen noemen.
>>70110292
You're gonna need at least a portie bitterbalen and a frikandel.
>>70110470
What if this referendum is some external scheme to make us lose the EU presidency?
>>70110073
Only on /pol/ it is.
Anywhere else you'd be mocked for being a retard, rightfully so.
>>70110582
We only hold it till June 2016.
vote PVV in the future , VNL is too small to win the election atm
>>70110452
Ben nu op werk wou in pauze gaan stemmen nu geen tijd meer
>>70110532
the officer's daughter?
>>70108875
>>70109246
>>70109953
Ukraine, clean my toilet
Poor nation, shithole of europe
>>70110452
Bij je gemeente kon je een vervangende stempas aanvragen, kon schriftelijk t/m vrijdag 1 april of bij een stemloket t/m 5 april.
>>70110496
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TACC Ńe Š¶e ŃŠøŃpŃ Š“aŃŃ
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>>70110626
So it's literally nothing then
>>70110636
Je kon dat ook gisteren doen he
>>70110540
> tfw you bite into a bitterbalen
never again!
>>70108757
Walen buiten.
>>70109395
>Russian
>Horse fucking peado
Honestly how the fuck can a man child like you survive in a hell hole like Russia!?
>>70110685
bitterballen are fuggen nice man.
>>70108875
KEEP YOUR FUCKING "REFUGEES" TO YOURSELF YOU ASSHOLES, seriously. Lazy ukranian fucks coming all the way here after murdering our citizens to get 3500 euro in gtfo money.
Fuck the Ukraine, you niggers deserve Russia.
>>70110423
http://www.ad.nl/ad/nl/38821/Referendum-Oekraine/article/detail/4276702/2016/04/06/LIVE-Kiesdrempel-van-30-procent-nog-niet-in-zicht.dhtml
>>70110685
You take that back
>>70108590
net terug van stemmen, lekker tegen gestempt.
ik hoop dat pechtold erin stikt.
>>70109603
It doesn't matter.
Either
>they honor it and give us a voice in the EU again
or
>they DON'T honor it and everyone goes to the PVV
That's the beauty of this, the only lose situation is not enough people voting.
>>70109465
>Implying they give one fuck what the goyim think.
M8 we voted against the Lisbon treaty, look what happened. You don't win.
>>70110727
I meant I need a man in Nethelands with pony figure to vote "no". I hate mlp indeed
>>70110649
No, fellow odessit who likes grilled chicken
>>70110685
They are either frozen or hotter than lava, no inbetweens.
>>70110685
Fuck you, they are awesome. Just like Kaassoufle or krokett
>>70110685
Kroketten>>Eierballen>>>Bitterballen tbqh
Pikantos with satay sauce are also god tier.
And kaassoufflƩs? Hnggg.
>>70110741
>>70110806
>>70110888
>>70110918
literally lava
>>70110727
Unfortunately, at least quarter of moskov is fags like him. If you have apartment there inherited from your poor babushka who worked her ass off till 90 years, you can keep living on rent without ever leaving your house.
>>70110685
>biting into a bitterbal
Are you retar-[flag] oh. You eat part of the crust, let the ragout cool and then eat another part. It just came out of 175 degrees celcius boiling oil, of course it's going to be hot.
>>70110761
I google translated it and it says only one region is above 30% and the average turnout is around 15%
>>70110750
>Lazy ukranian fucks coming all the way here after murdering our citizens to get 3500 euro in gtfo money.
Bullshit.
>>70111002
Yeah, I deleted my previous statement because of that, I shouldn't have blurted that one out.
>>70110864
Is it true odessa is full of women selling themselves to foreign men?
>>70111006
http://daskapital.nl/2016/02/misbruik_vertrekpremies.html
Numerous dutch sources available, use google translate. You guys are literally the gypsies of Europe nowadays.
>>70108854
light kek
>>70109765
All the George Soros' of the world don't exactly have Hungarian bank accounts bow,do they ;)
Reason Switzerland isn't in the EU is because the rich fucks and political elite want a country to retreat to - away from the laws they'll put on Europe, considering rapefugees, tax and other shit things.
A country that *legally* doesn't have to play by the EU's rules,because it's not a part. And it never will be, for that reason.
Switzerland exists purely to hoard shekels.
>>70110951
That's why you wait a bit before taking a bite into the glorious bitterbal.
Are there any polls? Results? Anything?
>>70111002
It's open till 9, a lot of people are still at work.
My mom for instance still has 3 votes (brother+sister gave it to her).
I'm sure there are plenty of people who vote after work.
>>70111109
Trump is winning
>>70110864
good. nice. you gonna get many, many, many Odessa-grills in the future. the history will teach your 404-land a good lesson
>>70111127
nevermind, didn't see who you were replying to.
HET WILHELMUS!
Wilhelmus van Nassouwe
ben ik, van Duitsen bloed,
den vaderland getrouwe
blijf ik tot in den dood.
Een Prinse van Oranje
ben ik, vrij, onverveerd,
den Koning van Hispanje
heb ik altijd geƫerd.
In Godes vrees te leven
heb ik altijd betracht,
daarom ben ik verdreven,
om land, om luid gebracht.
Maar God zal mij regeren
als een goed instrument,
dat ik zal wederkeren
in mijnen regiment.
Lijdt u, mijn onderzaten
die oprecht zijt van aard,
God zal u niet verlaten,
al zijt gij nu bezwaard.
Die vroom begeert te leven,
bidt God nacht ende dag,
dat Hij mij kracht zal geven,
dat ik u helpen mag.
>>70110918
I forgot about SatƩschnitzels. Hnggg.
>>70111127
This.
>>70111109
The Results will come tonight.
>>70108958
You do know that Ukrainian prostitutes are aids ridden. I heard somewhere around 89% had some form of STD with them. 1 of every 100 people has HIV.
>>70110864
what kind of services your mum/sister provides for 50 euros?
>http://www.intimatemedicine.com.hr/seks-su-ljudi/ukrajina-je-kurva-evrope/
>ukrajina-je-kurva-evrope
>>70111221
>I heard
>>70111174
Lijf en goed al te samen
heb ik u niet verschoond,
mijn broeders hoog van namen
hebben 't u ook vertoond:
Graaf Adolf is gebleven
in Friesland in de slag,
zijn ziel in 't eeuwig leven
verwacht de jongste dag.
Edel en hooggeboren,
van keizerlijke stam,
een vorst des rijks verkoren,
als een vroom christenman,
voor Godes woord geprezen,
heb ik, vrij onversaagd,
als een held zonder vreze
mijn edel bloed gewaagd.
Mijn schild ende betrouwen
zijt Gij, o God mijn Heer,
op U zo wil ik bouwen,
Verlaat mij nimmermeer.
Dat ik doch vroom mag blijven,
uw dienaar t'aller stond,
de tirannie verdrijven
die mij mijn hart doorwondt.
>>70110197
nu moskovic weg is op zich nog wel. Als het waar is wat Brammetje zegt dat ze de doodstraf wilde invoeren om het (domme) volk te pleasen dan is dat weer minder. Maar ja joodse trucs enzo.
>>70111275
Doe eens niet zo autistisch
>>70109953
>who cares about Russian mongoloids
>by the way, I'm ethnic Russian
you blew your cover Mykolasha.
>>70111056
Yes
>>70111075
>http://daskapital.nl/2016/02/misbruik_vertrekpremies.html
Bullshit. Show me the
digits. Europe not recognise Ukraine as country in war, there can't be any refugees
>voted at literally 8 o'clock in the morning, against of course
>mfw I'm literally the only one in my town exited about democracy
>>70111174
Van al die mij bezwaren
en mijn vervolgers zijn,
mijn God, wil doch bewaren
de trouwe dienaar dijn,
dat zij mij niet verrassen
in hunne boze moed,
hun handen niet en wassen
in mijn onschuldig bloed.
Als David moeste vluchten
voor Sauel de tiran,
zo heb ik moeten zuchten
als menig edelman.
Maar God heeft hem verheven,
verlost uit alle nood,
een koninkrijk gegeven
in Israƫl zeer groot.
Na 't zuur zal ik ontvangen
van God mijn Heer het zoet,
daarnaar zo doet verlangen
mijn vorstelijk gemoed:
dat is, dat ik mag sterven
met ere in dat veld,
een eeuwig rijk verwerven
als een getrouwe held.
Niets doet mij meer erbarmen
in mijne wederspoed
dan dat men ziet verarmen
des Konings landen goed.
Dat u de Spanjaards krenken,
o edel Neerland zoet,
als ik daaraan gedenke,
mijn edel hart dat bloedt.
>>70111174
Als een prins opgezeten
met mijner heireskracht,
van de tiran vermeten
heb ik de slag verwacht,
die, bij Maastricht begraven,
bevreesden mijn geweld;
mijn ruiters zag men draven
zeer moedig door dat veld.
Zo het de wil des Heren
op die tijd was geweest,
had ik geern willen keren
van u dit zwaar tempeest.
Maar de Heer van hierboven,
die alle ding regeert,
die men altijd moet loven,
Hij heeft het niet begeerd.
Zeer christlijk was gedreven
mijn prinselijk gemoed,
standvastig is gebleven
mijn hart in tegenspoed.
De Heer heb ik gebeden
uit mijnes harten grond,
dat Hij mijn zaak wil redden,
mijn onschuld maken kond.
Oorlof, mijn arme schapen
die zijt in grote nood,
uw herder zal niet slapen,
al zijt gij nu verstrooid.
Tot God wilt u begeven,
zijn heilzaam woord neemt aan,
als vrome christen leven,-
't zal hier haast zijn gedaan.
>>70108757
walen buiten
>>70110851
Oh! Right..
I was just going to say I'm not even mad, that's amazing..
I mean being one of those fags in a place like Russia - and still keeping your legs in one piece - is a challenge the FSB would probably say "Š½eŃ" to...
>>70111323
Go annoy everyone you know to go vote no
>>70110918
Goulashkroketten are underrated
voted yes because it's not my place to deny the ukrainian people less corruption and increased quality of life
>>70110750
Ukrainian immigrants tend to be pretty good, at least over here. They hate the Russians as much as the rest of us so we've got plenty of common ground.
>>70111174
Voor God wil ik belijden
en zijne grote macht,
dat ik tot gene tijden
de Koning heb veracht,
dan dat ik God de Here,
de hoogste Majesteit,
heb moeten obediƫren
in de gerechtigheid.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_U2HsdbbDgI
>>70111426
Thanks faggot. Now nato will go fuck with russia
The poll close at 21:00, local time right?
>>70108875
Let's count eastern europe countries - Belarus, Ukraine, Russia and Georgia.
Why call it Europe Union and not Soviet Union?
>>70111479
what does nato have to do with an european association treaty?
>>70111426
fucking cucks like you will be the demise of your country, and I am not even Dutch
>>70111505
Correct
>>70111302
Doe eens niet zo onpatriottisch en zing het volkslied.
>>70111577
>and I am not even Dutch
i'd say you're the demise.
who thought it's a good idea to make a referendum about something like this? it's just wasting taxpayers money
>>70111095
Exactly. And the funny thing is the Swiss people don't care. The fact that Switzerland is not officially in the EU is already enough for the people. Even though EU experts openly say that Switzerland is indeed de facto a member of the EU.
>>70111322
This was all over our national news
Good luck my Dutch friends.
Hopefully you vote against the EU madness
>>70108590
Are not Ukrainians basically Polish Russians?
Why the hell would you turn them away?
>>70111647
>letting people weigh in on important long term decisions for their country is a waste of taxpayer money
>>70110532
i'm a grill btw
>>70111647
Enough people think it's good use of tax money.
Compare it to the thousands of things that also get tax money without even asking the people.
>>70111724
Still bullshit
>>70111647
>who thought it's a good idea to make a referendum about something like this
437,000 Dutch Citizens decided that.
DAS IST DER WILLEN DES VOLKES! FĆR KĆNIG, VOLK UND VATERLAND!
>>70111611
>onpatriottisch
>Nederland
neger aub, kies er 2
>>70111818
We have a system where anyone who applies for asylum but clearly doesnt have a chance to get it, gets given financial incentives to fuck off. Amounts to ~3500 euros. The effect this has had is that it attracted Ukrainians and people from the Balkans to come here and exploit that system.
>>70111879
Thread theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RgfwuczsnY
>>70111768
more than 70% of your homies don't think it's important
>>70112014
More than 70% of people worldwide don't give a shit about anything. Sheep.
Voted in favor.
AMA
>>70112014
Oh sorry I wasn't aware 50% of the population has to agree on something before we spend money on it.
I'm sure all these subsidized ''art'' and theatres that survive on government money will continue to get subsidized if that were the case
>>70112014
That is yet to be determined. We'll see how many people care by 21:00 tonight.
>>70112116
What are you cooking for dinner tonight for your wife and her son?
>>70112116
What kind and how many types of mental health issues do you have?
>>70111818
Just accept that you're a gipsy now and yes, it's total bullshit that you're people are abusing this system.
>>70111952
>but clearly doesnt have a chance to get it, gets given financial incentives
it is some Nederland thing, i don't get it. Whatever.
>tfw Oldenzaal went from 17 to 5 polling stations
>"muh low turnouts"
>tfw massive queues of angry people voting just to spite the council
>>70112168
Kibbeling met aardappels en wortels
>>70112199
Depressie en sociale nervositeit.
>>70108590
>Article 10: we promise mutual defence between the EU and Ukraine.
Obama said it, Russia has escalatory dominance in Ukraine. Wtf is the EU doing?
Me after having voted NO
What a time to be alive not just Russia cucking Ukraine but even the Netherlands
>>70112224
I'd go and vote out of spite desu
>>70111554
Don't forget us, dummy.
>>70111570
Didn't stop them bombing Yugoslavia.....
Ik mis denk ik een stukje intellect wat links wel heeft, dus kan iemand mij uitleggen welke logica er achter het argument 'ik vind referenda ondemocratisch dus ik maak geen gebruik van mijn democratisch stemrecht' zit?
>>70112220
How can anyone abuse your system if he don't have travel visa and social security? Accept, you dutch just made up things.
might as well dissolve the parliament and have a referendum every sunday
>>70111772
>Romanian
Fat gypsy man tits don't make you female, anon. Neither does acting like a bitch.
>>70112276
>Kibbeling met aardappels en wortels
nederlands/10
Ok, seems like the Dutch don't give a fuck about this referendum
>>70112524
Everyone gather at the town square and yell at each other.
A voting will be held after every yelling match
>>70112444
Het idee volgens hun is dat we voor dit soort shit volksvertegenwoordigers hebben gekozen. Dat die na de verkiezingen alle beloftes uit het raam gooien is natuurlijk hartstikke democratisch.
>>70112324
>EXIF
>>70112547
Most people have jobs and vote in the evening together with the family.
>>70112547
People tend to have daytime jobs in The Netherlands.
>>70110851
I would've done it but I already voted.
>>70112403
Are you one of those retards who split europe into west and east with nothing else? Are you american on vacation?
Europe is split into: British Isles, Western Europe (Benelux, France, Switzerland), Southern Europe (Spain, Portugal, Italy, Greece, Malta, Cyprus), Central Europe, Balkans, Baltics, Nordics, Eastern Europe.
Learn geography and history.
>>70112652
EXIF?
>>70112677
True my parents are also going to vote in the evening. Too bad they are going to vote yes but that doesn't matter since the NEE camp is bigger and they will help with the 30%
>>70112547
>average of ~16%
>at 16:00
Most votes will be cast from 18:00 onward. Its how it goes every election. We actually have jobs, Russki.
>>70112639
Cant read hohol.
>>70112652
4chan removes EXIF data since some time ago.
>>70112547
See >>70112224
Political jewry in action.
>>70112547
This is actually looking pretty good. They say we can reach the 30% if 13% of the people in the big cities have voted now. Results from The Hague and Amsterdam are still coming.
Apparently, George Soros donated ā¬200,000 towards the Yes side.
what's happening in this thread?
Can anyone TL;DR?
>>70112750
shit! fuck! fuck!!!! fuck!!!!! why didn't you tell me????
take your friend, pony-fugure and go vote now!!!!
>>70112880
Dutch people are massive assholes, but that's actually a good thing because they're not being pushed around by politicians.
Said politicians are however employing some tricks to get the yes vote,so they can push them around some more.
>>70112803
>59% - yes
>49% - no
>.ua
>>70112880
We're gonna build a dyke, and Ukraine is paying for it.
We're lobbying for a brexit.
Vote VNL!
And something about a referendum or something.
>TFW Ukraine is relevant on 4chan again
Hi, eurofugs, howyoudoin? What is rapefugee situation ATM?
>>70113032
>108%
Remarkable.
>>70113098
Wiped under the rug
>>70112880
>new dutch referendum law passes
>blog makes use of it and gets enough signatures for a referendum to happen about the EU-Ukraine association treaty.
>all the europhiles get butthurt, saying that you are a friend of Putin if you vote against.
>polls show 60-70% is going to vote against, but we need 30% turnout rate
>referendum is today
>about 15% have voted already, that number will of course go up by a lot in the evening
>>70112622
Ja, precies, dacht ik ook. Ik begrijp dat argument tot op zekere hoogte ook wel, alleen strookt het inderdaad niet met de realiteit die direct na het tellen van de stemmen ontstaat. Daarom snap ik ook niet waarom men blijkbaar moedwillig onmachtig wil zijn en afziet van de mogelijkheid om meer democratische invloed te hebben, het is allemaal erg oppervlakkig beredeneerd en, denk ik, alleen persoonlijk te verantwoorden als je het eens bent met de huidige politieke koers.
Achteraf wel massaal zeiken op de sociale media natuurlijk.
>Ukraine
>ukrainians
No such thing.
>>70113032
top kek, can't wait for butthurt Ukrainians when their little EU-dream won't happen.
Wish you luck ukranian guys/gals, you are gonna need it, to escape russians influence. We need more white in the EU, niggers are going ova' here. Only thing RU is afraid of is the EU and or USA. It doesn't give a fuq about anything else.
>>70113172
Nederland ten top. Lekker overal op kankeren maar er niks aan willen doen.
>>70109498
This agreement triggered Maidan and it was all your idea, don`t pretend you dindunufing. Burgers play this game better and have balls, but nothing new with this.
>>70112974
Sorry to disappoint you, but I don't know any more people who can vote.
>>70113236
Enjoy your new EUSSR, eurofag.
>>70113228
new maydan can happen if they don't get association
>>70113344
calm down dutch bro.
light one up and chillax. we gonna be fine.
>>70113418
Nah, they already gave up and dont care about peremogas anymore.
Same thing as Yushenko`s happy rule.
>>70113473
>30% Russians
>we gonna be fine
Haha, nice try
>>70113098
Rapefugees hate us
Not enough gibsmedat and no ficki ficki
>>70110750
I don`t get this "lazy uke" mem, are you serious or this is a banter? Ukrainians hardworkers, all public narrative (cleaning toilets, wiping asses, etc) tells about it.
Did anyone ever met or even heard about unemployed ukrainian cuck somewhere in Tillburg? Be frank and honest.
>>70113098
Not as bad as Germany or Sweden, but that is about the most positive way you can spin it.
>>70113473
I guess when you're in the USSR for 50 years you get used to it, but I prefer to live in a democratic nation
>>70113473
>light one up and chillax. we gonna be fine.
we're not though, EU is runned by sociopaths
Pros:
Even further arguments for Brexit. Thanks Netherbros! Farage will use this very wisely I'm sure.
>>70113750
He already came and did a speech here
He feels this benefits the brexit
>>70113228
thank you, bro! ukrobutthurt is the greatest present you can give us. we'll be very greatful
>>70113750
Farage was at an event for this referendum two days ago. Based lad.
>>70112747
>>70112677
Employers in the Netherlands must give employees 2 hours of free time for voting on elections days, isnt it?
Facts:
- Nothing will happen even if the Dutch people vote no
- The Brits will vote against a Brexit
- Hillary will win the election
What a sad time to be alive.
>>70111006
>>70113632
the only job your people do with a passion here is western-europe, is being a whores in brothels in amsterdam or berlin, sucking and fucking nigger/arab dick.
>>70111765
Only some of us, basically its rather dixie/yankie relations, and feds fucked up to kill the rebel 25 years ago.
Now we are independent state with our own Rus, blackjack and so on. And without any oil.
>>70113883
Looks good to me
Only NEETs and elderly vote during the day
>>70113914
What
>>70113750
Farage held a speech 2 days ago on this.
Go on youtube and search for VNL Geenpeil conferentie. He speaks from the 02:00 mark.
>>70113631
Lets also not forget that Plan Samsom has saved us from higher influx of refugees. Totally him. Nothing to do with Hungarian inspired fences all over the Balkans.
>>70113914
No idea about that. Most polling stations are open from 7am to 9pm so anyone with a normal work day has plenty of time to vote
>>70113824
>another country allowed to come in a get dem benefits
>defense agreement
>fucking bailouts to a piss poor country
I can see why one might think this helps Brexit.
>>70113889
What was he saying?
>>70113945
>brits will vote against a Brexit
current polls are at like 51% LEAVE. Not just winning, but a majority. Also keep in mind that old people aren't polled as much and they are much more likely to want to leave.
>>70113883
>Vlieland
why?
>>70108590
>unlimited financial aid. Were Ukraine to need it, the EU has to bail them out. Just like Greece.
Jesus Christ when will this madness stop?
>>70113946
>so much butthurt
>>70114012
>No idea about that.
Lol
>>70114045
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zsOPSjjIQ_c
>>70114060
Vlieland is an Island. They have nothing else to do and all their neighbours will be harassing them.
>>70114097
But in all seriousness I don't hate Ukrainians. They are one of the very few decent immigrant groups we have
Fuck Ukraine
>>70113914
Is this one of those made up things that ukrainians dream about when they get to join the EU?
>>70114137
sorry but it is true, whores are the main export product of ukraine
>>70114181
I've literally never heard of it. But most people vote either before they go to work or after they come home. We don't have 14h workdays here so it's not a problem.
>>70112880
>A new referendum law passed last summer, allowing the people of The Netherlands to ask for a referendum, minimum ammount of signatures required is 300.000 - 430.000 are collected
>First thing the government does is trying to make the signatures invalid and cancel the referendum. Court rules it is valid and will take place
>Government states they will not campaign or indicate what people should vote for, and will let individuals do campaigning for yes/no themselves
>Weeks go by and it's obvious the "No" vote campaign is getting a lot more people than "Yes". Government goes on damage control and starts campaigning by themselves, using hundreds of thousands of Euro's (Fun fact: some of the funding came from Soros, which wants to cultivate GMO crops in Ukraine)
>"No" voters are still ahead, Government makes an unusually low ammount of voting locations available to the people. One town that had 17 locations on the previous elections, now only has 5 locations. Throughout the country, there's a total of 1000 less locations. Government claims it's 'cost-efficient' and 'normal'
>People and politicians are intentionally trying to prevent people from voting so the minimum of 30% is not reached and the referendum will be invalid
>Polls show 30% will be reached anyways
>Polls show "No" will be the majority vote
>Nobody really knows what will happen if this is the case
>I already voted No earlier today, as will everyone from my family
Fuck ukraine, i hope them die
>>70113914
no, we have sham democracy, our freedom is fake
Guys let's be real I voted NO and sadly enough my parents yes but that will help with the 30% and NO is the majority anyway.do you think we can make it?
>>70114060
The rest are larger towns and cities. These have districts full of shitskins that don't vote. Look at rotterdam.nl, they have a live turnout thing. Neighbourhoods like Charlois and Feyenoord have low as fuck turnout, drawing the city as a whole down. In more rural/white areas you'll likely see higher turnouts.
>>70114401
u know why? because shitskins dont see the netherlands as their country
>>70114363
we won't make the 30%, but the majority will be no
>>70113946
>frank and honest
Ok, lets pretend you are so. No any problems for you, until your aging mum isn`t thrown out of business by slav cutes, right?
>>70114463
We will though
>>70114455
Most of them probably have no idea there's a referendum because they only watch arabic/turk tv.
I wish we could switch Ukraine for France. What a francophone pricks!
>>70114463
If we don't get 30% than it was for nothing. We shouldn't have had that 30% system anyway. It was national news and it is our right to vote so we have to do so
>>70111426
Htf am I decended from such a cucked up country and people. We inherited your langauge and tall stature, but thank god your faggotry stayed behind.
