http://youtu.be/4aHCVipQn8k
(2:33)
>"the rocket equation proves man landed on the moon"
Is he right /pol?
>>70039704
>believing that the moon landing took place
This triggers americans so fucking hard, they can't handle the truth.
>tfw Americans learn the moon landings was fakes
>>70039704
>"look at muh big rocket"
Americans believe this shit baka
>"it had the fuel to go to the moon, therefore do the maths and no moon hoaxer will ever come back, the math shows the rocket had fuel to go to the moon"
>"this proves moon landing is real"
Americans still this fucking gullible
Are other countries really this mad we landed on the moon?
Fuck off proxyfag
>>70040698
Americans have nothing else, the truth that USSR beat them in space would trigger mass suicide.
>>70041960
>>70040698
>their countries can't into space
>Thread full of Euros and one gook completely asshurt that their own third world nation's flag will never be on the moon
Feels good being number one.
>>70040698
Americans have nothing else, the truth is so Triggering they filter any and all threads and posts that prove the moon landing was a hoax.
>>70042168
Not mad, jealous. But its that werid kind of jealous where they actually just want to be us. Its some creepy shit, brother.
>>70042457
>Americans have nothing else
Ok singapoor
Moon landing hoax is the great triggering
>>70042314
Nazis won the Space Race
This triggers the jungle gook.
>>70042168
>>70042260
>>70042381
>>70042417
>tfw when american and someone proves the moon landings never happened
>>70042457
They can't handle the truth, sad.
>>70042500
>"we landed on the moon it was on TEEVEE and our goverment would never lie!!"
how can the moon landing be real if the moon landing literally isn't real.
>>70043014
how can the moon be real if the fake landing isn't real
It's all mathematics
>>70042963
your still filled with special halllah meat and terrorist pekka. You bend over fully for them.
>>70039704
It obviously didn't happen.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=BMBcLg0DkLA
That's what we call 60s special effects. We can't go to the moon now, let alone then.
>>70042556
>American
>"WE WAZ ON MOON AND SHEEEEIT!"
Worse than niggers kek
>>70042168
We didn't land on the moon. Zero chance.
>>70043390
We can go to the moon now. It;s just expensive, and no one wants to pay for it.
We might be able to do it on a budget in a few years when spacex has the falcon heavy and dragon 2 rolling out.
>>70043014
>>70043390
Nice, two sane red pilled americans here afterall, we get worried sometimss.
>>70043254
Finland has like no fucking refugees, getting desperate are we, you got BTFO lol
>>70043194
Yes, obviously
>>70042314
They haven't been to space, either. All space programs are fake and run by the Jews and their Freemasonic and intelligence agency shills. It's doubtful if geosynchronous orbit is even a valid phenomenon. (No I don't believe in the flat earth theory, but I do believe we have much less understanding of our universe than NASA would have us believe.)
>>70044053
What leads you to disbelieve geosynchronous orbit? It's supported by all of modern physics as far as I know
>>70040698
>>70040933
>>70041960
>>70042314
>>70042457
>>70042562
>>70042813
>>70042963
>>70043014
>>70043511
>>70043744
>>70043871
>>70043872
>Literally no mention of the math NDT was talking about.
Why even bother posting?
>>70044053
How does the GPS on your phone work then?
>>70043194
Mathematics is about calculating known variables. You and I don't know the variables, we have to take NASA's word for them. It is still determined by NASA's truth or untruth, either way you look at it.
what's with all the fucking frogs in this thread as image.jpg
>>70044053
>thinking NASA are the only ones who have put things in orbit
How are you this fucking retarded?
http://youtu.be/xciCJfbTvE4
http://youtu.be/LAbpWaDL4Zc
I love the entire proof for it happening now ia
"muh fuel"
And
"Muh Russians would expose us"
Good timing on the Panama papers, all russian leaders since the 70's have had their money and massive personal wealth hidden in Panama, no wonder they did not wanna rock the boat. Who ran Panama scheme, the CIA now leaked.
>>70043871
>it is real you will see, one day maybe in a few decades we will land on the moon!!
Lmao
>>70044318
You think NASA is lying about the entirety of physics?
Both the United States and Russia have placed ranging mirrors on the moon which exist right now. With the right lasers and other equipment, any faggot could shine a laser at these reflecting devices and measure the distance of time it takes for the light to be reflected back, thus proving the distance from the earth to the moon given the following equation:
Distance = (Speed of light × Time taken for light to reflect) / 2
experiments have been performed by government scientists, professionals, and even amateurs in their own back yard for decades which continue to provide confirmation that the general theory and equation described above are consistent with known physics
>you literally cannot prove this wrong, but go ahead and try pseudo-science neckbeards, ill wait
>shit-tier mythbusters proved this on tv so you lards could understand
>hard mode: refute the below abstract http://physics.ucsd.edu/~tmurphy/apollo/0710.0890v2.pdf
>>70044254
you can't fucking prove an event took place with math.
the very concept of such a thing is the definition of stupid.
>>70044570
Saved
>>70044254
>"where else could the rocket have gone? truthers BTFO!!!"
It wasn't actually possible to use the film technology that we had at the time to fake the lunar landing.
We did, however, have the technology to actually go there, thanks to your friendly neighborhood Nazis.
>>70044596
Nope, but you could disprove it. Simply prove that the fuel was not enough to take them to the moon and back. Why haven't you done that? There are probably other impossibilities you could prove, if it really didn't happen.
However, if you cannot disprove some part of it, then you would have to admit it was possible. And thus the simplest conclusion would be that they actually went to the moon.
>>70042168
Yup. It's called "foreign inferiority complex" syndrome, and it is directly correlated with small penis length and an undying thirst to end one's own genetic lineage through cuckoldry.
>>70044257
I don't know. Do all waves travel in a straight line? If some are able to curve, they may be able to connect with GPSs from great distances on land.
>>70044211
It seems like it would be pulled out of orbit. Think about it: the gravitational pull obviously changes depending on the position of the earth relative to the solar system, and the earth relative to the moon. The official explanation is they use rocket boosters to keep the satellite in geosynchronous orbit, but I have doubts. Being caught perfectly between two large masses sounds like sci-fi nonsense, really. It doesn't help the entire concept behind a satellite actually came from a science fiction writer.
>>70044866
Care to answer your own question? The rocket was gone for 8 days. Do you have any proof of it existing on Earth during that time?
>>70044596
This. Also neil degrasse is chad-fedora tier at best. He's insufferable.
>>70039704
I think the moon landings did happen, but out of every conspiracy/hoax theory the moon landing theory makes the most sense.
>>70044950
THERE
IS
NO
MOON
>>70044937
>never seen 2001
https://youtu.be/Z2UWOeBcsJI
>1968
Feels bad, you should rent it bro.
>>70045259
So we've reached the depth of your knowledge of math and science ;)
>>70045100
Gravitational pull from other satellites is close to nothing at that distance away. Besides, lack of a geosynchronous orbit would mean that the moon wouldn't orbit the earth, and the earth wouldnt orbit the sun.
kubrick making it realistic enough that the entire world believes it 50 years later is more impressive than actually landing on the moon imo. murrica>
>>70040408
If you're so redpilled then let me ask you this; do you think there is such a thing as low earth orbit? Do you think there is a space station circling around up there? Because if you do, Ive got news for you..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5e-RnKAN9qY
>>70045555
>1 hour video
fuck off
>>70044570
How do you prove its not just reflecting off the surface of the moon?
Wouldn't it be difficult to find a small mirror with a laser beam and how about catching the reflection? You would literally have to be exactly under it here on earth.
Maybe they are using a special reflector, please be more thorough ass head.
>>70045350
math is real, 'science' is a joke. 'science' is literally just another faggot religion of assholes who pretend to know shit. 'technology' is real, and has nothing to do with science.
by definition, all science that has ever existed is incorrect, and all technology that has ever existed is correct.
i'm not sure how people that think science has anything to do with whether or not the moon exists manage to breath and walk at the same time.
>>70045100
>Do all waves travel in a straight line?
yes. Though is certain conditions radio waves can bounce of the stratosphere to travel further, but it's care that this can happen.
>>70045679
Have you ever reflected light off of a rock that's a mile away, let alone one that is 230,000 miles away? Not even precious metals have that high of a reflectivity
>>70044471
No. It's not possible for them to lie about the entirety of physics. The physics that we can't confirm, such as the workings of the solar system, are probably faked. There is no evidence any of NASA's science is functional. It isn't considered theoretical physics any longer, because "it works," but to 99% of humanity it is still entirely theoretical without any means to confirm it.
>>70044373
Who owns these companies and who are they connected to? I know the moon landing is fake, but would be willing to entertain satellites being real. The admitted truth (by official sources), though, is that most of our information still travels through mid-nineteenth century technology, lying on the ocean floor. It isn't necessary for satellites to work, judging from the evidence, so I will assume they don't unless I am given compelling evidence to the contrary.
>>70045684
burgers, every time
>>70045888
>The physics that we can't confirm
except that we sent rockets to fucking mars, so it's pretty easy to figure out how big a rocket to the moon would need to be.
>>70045903
i assure you that you are not intelligent.
>>70045679
The mirrors if true, they are not would at best prove we shot mirrors to the moon. That has nothing to do with the moon landing with man walking on the moon being a complete hoax.
>>70045888
not who you were referring to. However, I understand that you believe the moon landing to be fake.
>>70044570
In the above post I described the lunar ranging devices which exist on the moon right now, and were placed there by (I propose) human beings from the United States and USSR space programs
Do you believe that the lunar ranging devices described above exist?
If so, how do you think they were placed there, if not by astronauts?
>>70045997
>A burger tells me I am not intelligent
Stop, it hurts too much
>specifically says he can "assure" me of this
too much! I beg of you!
>>70046129
if you're so smart, tell me why europeans are so stupid that they actually think they're smart? they're like little babies.
>>70046062
The idea is that people placed the mirrors on the moon, at certain locations, with certain calibrations. Are you stating that you believe the mirrors on the moon exist, but that someone shot them up there and that they happened to land exactly where they need to be?
Do you realize that it would be harder to shoot small, precise instruments and have them land exactly where they are supposed to, instead of just sending people there to place them as needed?
>>70046104
>"moon landing was real because how else did astronauts place USSR space mirrors"
Americans are so dumb I give up.
>>70045469
I meant from other planets, not satellites. Obviously the gravitational pull changes depending on where the moon is in relation to the object, for example. It would seem the fluctuations would be exerting a constant force to either suck it into the earth's gravity or pull it away from it into space.
>>70046377
please answer the questions that I asked.
Do you believe that mirrors exist on the moon currently, which reflect light and therefore can be demonstrated to be a certain distance from earth?
If so, how do you believe such mirrors got there?
pls respond
>>70046129
You're Irish man. The US have accomplished way more academically than your country ever will.
I mean I like Ireland but you're not England either. Your top people are athletes ,not scientist
>>70046333
>"no way they could shoot mirrors precisely to the moon!! But if the moonlander was off by inches it would crash and kill everyone"
You know they have landed equipment on the moon and mars right for decades?
Americans have to be the most blue pilled tards on here.
>>70046659
I could give a fuck.
But we actually do pretty well for our size. Boolean math was invented by an irish guy. Electron was discovered by an irish guy. And a bunch of other shit: http://www.irishcentral.com/roots/top-ten-irish-scientists-of-all-time-133802208-237740601.html
>>70045555
I've literally seen it with a telescope, isn't /pol/ supposed to be the only place without idiots?
>>70046659
>"American on holiday"
Enjoying your visit so far burger?
>>70039704
America BTFO
>>70046750
finland, you're retarded.
>>70045977
If they lied about the moon landing, why would I assume that is real? We are going under different assumptions here.
>>70045862
I don't know, then. I haven't tested so-called satellite technology, so I don't know if it really works everywhere like stated or not. If we do live in a globe, which I will believe until given satisfactory evidence to the contrary, and all waves travel straight, that would be evidence in favor of satellites. Even then I can't say.
>>70046750
please answer the question I asked and do not make a straw man argument by taking what I said and twisting it into some ridiculous statement.
I will make it very easy for you:
Do you believe that there is mirror and ranging equipment on the moon now, or at any time?
If so, how do you believe that the above came into existence?
>>70045684
>>70045997
This is, BY FAR, the most unintelligent post i have ever read on the internet that doesn't come from a feminist.
I don't think you even know what the word "definition" means after reading this shit.
I'm a fucking math major and I know that most of math isn't real. I'm guessing you don't know much math beyond high school and you just fetishize the subject at ultimate truth. It's only absolutely true because it's based on some useful assumptions. I hate to burst your bubble but even math has unproven assumptions.
If science isn't real then I dare you to point out the flaw in the scientific method.
>>70047041
What do you think the ISS you can see fly over on a regular basis is? Or all the other artificial satellites you can see with a cheap telescope?
>>70047104
>>math isn't real
what is fucking counting
jesus christ
i am so fucking superior to you
>>70046878
Nope. Glad that you finally got redpilled about /pol/
>>70039704
There is no dark side in the moon, really. Matter of fact, it's all dark.
>>70045684
By what definition fellow Amerifag.
>>70046610
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lunar_Laser_Ranging_experiment
>The first successful tests were carried out in 1962 when a team from the Massachusetts Institute of Technology succeeded in observing laser pulses reflected from moon's surface using a laser with a millisecond pulse length.
First laser was bounced off the moon before our purported landing.
>Greater accuracy was achieved following the installation of a retroreflector array on July 21, 1969, by the crew of Apollo 11, and two more retroreflector arrays left by the Apollo 14 and Apollo 15 missions have also contributed to the experiment.
"Greater accuracy" was purportedly achieved after the landing. Once again, this improvement is impossible to verify for 99% of the population. It also raises questions such as how do they hit the very small plate on the moon's surface accurately.
>>70047310
Nope, I said most math.
Counting is obviously real. And you've shown how primitive your view of math is.
Math typically has no relation to the real world. It's just a useful way to think about things.
Tell me just how real complex analysis and geometry in billions of dimensions and most modern math is.
>>70047530
MINE
>>70045679
>You would literally have to be exactly under it here on earth.
Confirmed for not knowing how mirrors work.
>>70047310
To add to that, do you understand that almost all math is based on ZFC set theory, which assumes that there exists an infinite set. Tell me about how real infinite sets are.
>>70046965
Wish I had the money to go to a holiday. I wouldn't be there getting drunk with wine after savate training.
I don't think I could go to the other side of the country by train ,so if I could make a France-US plane trip i'd be golden
>>70045684
You're overthinking what science is.
Science is a mean of methods to ,from repeatable experimentation, formulate theories as to why something happens.
You opening your front door with the same key is literraly science. Through experimentation you found that only when the right key was inserted into the door you could unlock it.
By definition ,all things are questionable ,not necessarily false. Disproving an established scientifc theory is hard and long work. Disproving aether was no small task because of the retarded complexity of the thing
>>70047202
Telescopes are a scam, they actually put tiny little screens in the eyepiece of each one. You're not watching the sky, you're watching a heavily doctored movie of the sky.
>>70047615
I fucking hate people like you. You can't fucking answer questions.
>>70047751
>>70047615
>Confirmed to be BTFO
>NASA did fake it all
It is ok faggot, maybe the BigFoot is still real "blue pill."
>>70039704
Master's in Physics here. It's actually the Tsiolkovsky Rocket Equation, and the trip was totally possible with the rockets and the technology of the time.
>>70047682
>>things don't exist
i'm not surprised you don't believe in knowledge itself.
you fucking tipping autist.
>>hurr i can invent any mathematical idea, that means that 3 apples and 3 apples isn't six apples.
literal brain damage
>>70044318
I can estimate the size of the rocket, and thus approximate the amount of fuel on board given the mass of the fuel. Just because you're a dipshit who can't into math doesn't mean it's impossible.
the butthurt Americans are an embarrassment tbqh..baited so easily.
anyways, never forgetti
>>70048007
He said you'd have to be directly under it, implying he thinks they were dumb enough to just leave a flat kitchen mirror lying on the moon instead of a retroreflector.
>>70047866
opening a door with a key is technology.
lets be honest here. neil degrasse tyson is literally the epitomy of science. you want science? that's what it is. a fat nigger charlatan who sells magazines. THAT'S science for you.
he probably couldn't even repair a hydraulic valve.
>>70039704
>there are literal regressive retards who don't want interstellar travel
>would rather spread lies and keep humanity here on Earth so their Jewish influences don't falter
Don't fall for the Euro shills. America went to the moon and made it great again.
>>70047104
>If science isn't real then I dare you to point out the flaw in the scientific method.
The flaw of the scientific method is that it isn't adhered to. Theoretical science isn't, by its nature, the scientific method. As far as trial and error goes, that method has been used for millennia, and is no way confined to the Enlightenment.
Essentially, math is always correct, as long as your variables are correct. Many of the variables in space are inferences and deductions. There is no way to use math accurately without intimately understanding your variables. All mathematical failures are failures in understanding reality.
>>70047202
Could be military planes. I have to agree with some of the posters above, that there are issues with all of the footage on the ISS, and the rest of the space program, to boot.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msY3xc8pVLE
>>70047615
>First laser was bounced off the moon before our purported landing.
and? they got shit results so they had human beings install specialized and sensitive equipment so that better, more accurate, and repeatable tests could be performed. prove that wrong
>Once again, this improvement is impossible to verify for 99% of the population. It also raises questions such as how do they hit the very small plate on the moon's surface accurately.
so only things which the common idiot can understand or prove to themselves or afford the equipment to measure are real? welp there goes atoms, germ theory, and quantum mechanics!
>>70045323
Find a slow motion scene in that for me that could be used to imitate low gravity jumps.l
>>70048141
>thinking this has to do with the rocket or its fuel
>American
Maybe you guys do not have the mental capacity to be red pilled afterall.
>>70040408
>still believing decades long since confirmed KGB disinfo
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Active_measures
let me guess, you also think the CIA created AIDS to persecute poor innocent Africans
You might as well just let Russia annex you, finngol
>>70048572
>Could be military planes.
traveling at 25,000km/h? at 300km altitude? 6 hours? for every single artificial satellite?
> that there are issues with all of the footage on the ISS
None that aren't trivially explained.
Hypothetically speaking, even if people believe that the first moon landing was faked, do they also believe that every moon landing thereafter was fake, too?
>>70047310
No. He's actually correct.
Just because the math taught in elementary school is based around a set on intuitive assumptions, does not make math "real". At it's purest, math is just logic used to determine logic from a set of assumptions.
The further you study it, the more you realize this. Even if you just use it for engineering.
With your definition of the word """definition""" math is no more real than other science. Math is coming to conclusion through deductive logic. If A and B, then also B. This of course assumes that A and B. If not A and B, we cannot determine B, so math is not really """""""""""real""""""""""" either.
Science is coming to conclusions through inductive logic: If we've seen the sun come up each day, we can reasonably assume that it comes up next day. Is this real? Well, more real than math, but even the example I gave has the issue that there are places in the world where the sun doesn't come up every day.
How about you take it a step further and say that with your definition of [[[definition]]] nothing is, in fact, real.
These clips prove at the very least they were in a vacuum:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isVO9AAAhxM
>>70048706
I only said it was possible, which is what many in this thread seem to be shitposting against. I'm only good for verifying the Physics end of things with 100% accuracy.
That said, Finland, you're probably just jealous that the last thing your people discovered was a continent that required a people as industrious as Americans to actually colonize.
>>70049004
>Is this real? Well, more real than math
What the fuck does "real" mean in this case?
>>70047993
Okay, fine. There are no mirrors on the moon. We never went to the moon to put mirrors on the moon. The claim that we can only measure the distance to the moon because of the mirrors being put there is demonstrably false using official sources. The claim is we have a slightly more accurate reading now, which obviously doesn't carry any weight due to being easily falsifiable.
>>70049172
Exactly. Hence the """"""""real"""""""" throughout what I wrote.
>>70039704
undeniable proof the we DID NOT land on the moon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wptn5RE2I-k
>>70049321
Lay off the marijuana and esoteric philosophy
>>70048332
You have to measure the variables of space, too, not just your rocket. There are no hard data concerning space, as far as I know, which means all data is derived from deduction and inference.
>>70049490
What variables? I'm quite curious.
>>70049490
>>70049639
By which I mean, what the fuck don't you think we can know?
>>70049097
>Thinks Finland discovered America
>Thinks American settlers were not from Europe
>American
>>70049389
based aldrin.
>>70049825
No man, he thinks americans were the first settlers in america, not europeans. That's why they are called americans duh!
My fellow burgers, is it safe to assume all the posts containing pepes that deny the moon landing and mock us for believing it are the work of one asshurt Finn proxyfagging and shitting up the thread?
Even by the standards of /pol/ this thread is incredibly dumb.
>>70049825
You vikings are all the same brand of cucks, so what's it matter?
The progenitors of Americans were obviously the more effective variety of European given that we succeeded where your ancestors failed.
>>70045555
http://youtu.be/AkkLO4oEQS4
Here, ISS faked.
Damn this thread blew up with shills and butthurt amerilards teehee
>>70048691
>so only things which the common idiot can understand or prove to themselves or afford the equipment to measure are real? welp there goes atoms, germ theory, and quantum mechanics!
I agree something can work and not be easily verifiable, but all of those fields you posted are more Jewish nonsense without any grounding in reality.
>and? they got shit results so they had human beings install specialized and sensitive equipment so that better, more accurate, and repeatable tests could be performed. prove that wrong
It makes an immense difference. It's the difference between someone turning a light on in a pitch dark room, and someone shining a flashlight outside and claiming they made everything brighter. The later is obviously possible to falsify, the former is not.
>>70048779
>traveling at 25,000km/h? at 300km altitude? 6 hours? for every single artificial satellite?
How do we know, though? That's what they claim is happening.
>None that aren't trivially explained.
Agreed. Many of the people analyzing film have no clue what they are doing. Some people do have a clue, though, and I have seen very compelling evidence that it is faked.
>>70049971
>"guys I cannot take this raping much longer we are getting burned so hard please tell it is all a dream"
No one said red pills are good for you but they are the truth.
>>70050065
We are not viking ancestors dumbass.
>>70049184
>The claim that we can only measure the distance to the moon because of the mirrors being put there
nobody has made that claim
>The claim is we have a slightly more accurate reading now,
nobody has made that claim
>which obviously doesn't carry any weight due to being easily falsifiable.
ok so falsify it
>>70049703
The vaccum of space, for one. It is claimed we have first-hand knowledge of space, but certainly not proven. I wouldn't be surprised if someday they look back on our conception of the dynamics of the solar system and think we are idiots.
>>70050067
great find desu
>>70050378
Whatever you say, Sven.
>>70050155
>How do we know, though?
You can easily triangulate the distance and then figure out the speed. Fuck, just by looking at it you can know it's a minumum distance away and moving too fast to not be burning up in the atmosphere.
>>70039704
This is jackdurden.com all over again
>>70050427
>The vacuum of space, for one.
Saying we don't know the variables of a vacuum doesn't make sense. There are no variables in a vacuum. That's what makes it a vacuum. No matter, no drag, nothing.
http://youtu.be/5e-RnKAN9qY
>ISS DEBUNKED
>>70050378
Heh, you're only proving my point. I was skeptical of the whole thing anyways, but if it triggers Eurocucks to think the moon landing might actually be real, then I became a believer today. This is the only (You) you'll be getting from me. Also I forgot to add:
dumb frogposter
>>70039704
R E T R O R E F L E C T O R S
when you realize we only ever landed on the moon was because of Nazi, and then the Nazi died off and we forgot how to get back
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPYYw8Qcy-o
we'd be Mars right now if Von Braun didn't die from cancer
>>70041960
Here's one way to prove it's not s hoax.
If you look at the footage of them thorwing stuff around on the moon, using x = ut + 1/2at^2 (you have to use rough estimates for x and t) you can actually calculate a (the acceleration due to gravity in this case) as being damn near close to 1.62ms^-2, which would be impossible if they sped they slowed the film down, as gravity acts the same on Earth regardless.
>>70050427
>The vacuum of space, for one.
You're not sure space is a vacuum? you think... it might be full of air?... huh?
ITT Jealous Eurofags wish they had been born in America and stoned philosophy students disprove all of science and mathematics.
>>70045100
Autism off the fucking charts...
>t. Physics 1 student
>>70051196
But the Nazis ARE on the Moon, anon.
>>70051096
>muh mirrors
http://youtu.be/vnnm1ztNO_I
>>70051548
Forgot photo
The flag is literally still up there. Go buy a space ship and check it out for yourselves, you tin-foil retards.
>>70051275
>"it must be true slow motion"
http://youtu.be/wdMvQTNLaUE
>>70049880
based irishbro. all the deniers deserve some sense knocked into them
>>70047682
>Math typically has no relation to the real world. It's just a useful way to think about things.
American public school education, everyone. I invite any snarky Yuros in the thread to laugh at this retard.
>>70049436
>Lay off the marijuana and esoteric philosophy
Nah, you misunderstand. The entire wall of text was criticizing throwing shit like >>70045684 around without thinking.
>>70051970
Notice how all of those come from Finland, Norway, and Singapore. It's all one Finn proxying.
The American that posted a pepe was just making fun of the Finn.
>>70047682
>It's just a useful way to think about things.
How the fuck is it useful if it doesn't somehow relate to the real world? Your degree is a waste.
>>70047682
Math allows you to make predictions.
That's what makes it important.
You are also assuming there billions of dimensions, and not providing any mathematical evidence for that claim.
>>70051750
>"FLAG IS THERE!!"
No way to prove that.
>>70052271
>this butthurt
The truth hurts fragile minds
>>70052413
Just go ride a space shit to the moon and you can see it for yourself.
>>70039704
why does he tries so hard to act like a comedian?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6MOnehCOUw
>>70046878
>/pol/
>not idiots
Good jokes m8. This place is 95% memers and 5% speds who actually believe the hype
>>70046878
Seen it with my own eyes and binoculars, too.
>>70052937
>HOL UP HOL UP
>WE BE MOON WALKING AND SHEEEEEEEIT
Americans are dumb alright
Americans this fucking assblasted hahaha good to know them faking moon landing triggers Americans this hard
Grats OP on finding they g spot, Americans fucking stupid faggots haha believing they landed on the moon hahaha
>we wuz astronauts
^^
How do I deactivate my 4chan Gold account?
>>70050952
We don't know space is a vaccum. How's that? All we have is a deduction that since our atmosphere decreases as altitude increases, there must be no atmosphere at all beyond a certain point. It is absolutely unproven that there are no atmospheric gasses of some kind in space.
>>70051311
No clue what it's full off.; no clue how big the universe is; no clue what force is holding our solar system in orbit, but I'm pretty sure gravity doesn't fully explain it.
>>70051661
Why can you ignore the gravitational pull of the sun. That doesn't make any sense.
Post 70052542
ID: TyhUW26G
I told you I was no longer giving you a (You) anymore. You continue posting images of pepe and only validate my hypothesis that almost all the dumb frogposters are a single person. 9/10 chance that if you reply to this post it will come with a pepe picture.
>>70054510
>no clue how big the universe is
Nobody claims to know how big the universe is. Latest data suggests it may be infinite.
>but I'm pretty sure gravity doesn't fully explain it.
Your right, but general relativity does. What part do you think gravity does not explain? Gravity explains 99.9% it pretty well.
>>70054786
>(You)
Go away -
CIA.
>>70055231
>Your right, but general relativity does.
Einstein was Jewish. Be smarter than this. Jews don't contribute to science; Jews lie, especially about scientific achievements.
>What part do you think gravity does not explain?
Why the heaviest mass planet/star in a solar system doesn't simply suck all of the other planets into itself via gravity. Why would everything be in perfect equilibrium if the laws of gravity were true?
>>70055231
>Nobody claims to know how big the universe is. Latest data suggests it may be infinite.
Also, this is nonsense straight from the Kabbalah. We have no idea what the universe even is, let alone how big it is.
>>70039704
does these people look like people that landed on the moon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwxsL6msdwE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BI_ZehPOMwI
moon landing was a hoax, hell does it matter, ussr won the space race
lolmao
>>70056211
>Einstein was Jewish
He made some theories about how the universe behaves and made many prediction of stuff we should be able to see if he was right. When we called him on that bullshit and check, he was almost always 100% correct.
>Why the heaviest mass planet/star in a solar system doesn't simply suck all of the other planets into itself via gravity.
because we are traveling at tangential velocity to it. It doesn't matter how big the sun is, so long as we are traveling fast enough we will continue to orbit it. Just like things will orbit the earth so long as they are traveling at at least 25,000km/h near the atmosphere. But any slower and they'll begin to fall towards it. Same with US and the sun.
>Why would everything be in perfect equilibrium if the laws of gravity were true?
They are not, it's possible for the planets to throw each other out of orbit if the align the right way. There's reason to think this has happened before based on their current orbits.
>>70039704
These threads trigger me so much.
>technology to fake the moon landings wouldn't come for decades later
>we can point lasers at the moon and get a response back only because they put a retroflecter there during the mission.
>Russians never claimed it was fake
This is the absolute garbage tier of conspiracy theories yet it still makes the rounds here...
>>70057043
>He made some theories about how the universe behaves and made many prediction of stuff we should be able to see if he was right. When we called him on that bullshit and check, he was almost always 100% correct.
This is just going in circles now. The point is we can't check. You and I have no way to verify any of his theories; we have to rely on NASA and other so-called experts.
>>70057290
>>70047615
that's inccorect, cuck.
>>70039704
Only small-minded and jealous people believe they weren't real. The evidence is overwhelming and irrefutable.
>>70056628
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BI_ZehPOMwI
>5 minutes in
>neil armstrong stuttering and nervous as fuck
>>70057399
>You and I have no way to verify any of his theories; we have to rely on NASA and other so-called experts.
General relativity was verified with a large telescope, and has been verified with many telescopes.
NASA don't control everything.
>>70057570
NASA doesn't, but I'm sure these telescopes were owned by Livermore Lab or some other large scale Jew operation. You and I have no way to verify it.
What if the space race was a hoax. It was just a shroud to cover up the real truth. That the governments were building for the end of the Earth and to preserve their future survival. What if the moon landing and mars rovers are just a shroud. What if, they really did build colonies up in space and have cloned servants from men and women who donated their sperm and seeds. And now we have today, a world set to destroy itself and face annihilation. While they live in space. Kind of convenient.
>>70058134
In any case, your saying gravity doesn't explain the solar system. And I'm explaining to you why it does. regardless of what can or can't be verfied
>>70039704
http://youtu.be/lrxpqn3Gb20
>Astronaut caught in lies
Van Allen belts make it i possible.
>>70058463
Fine, this is going in circles anyhow. Even if Newton's gravity theory is logical, that doesn't make it correct. We have no way to verify it. I'm sorry but unless you have something else to add, we will have to agree to disagree. This has been unproductive for the last five posts between us.
>>70039704
http://youtu.be/Lfkta0IT26w
>NASA insider admits it is all a hoax
>all goverment space agencies and companies involved together
Proof.
>shills KO'd
Time to accept facts Americans.
EUROPE FUCK OFF
>>70058652
>He changed his story!
but.. he didn't change his story at all
Kinda interesting interview tho
>>70058836
>We have no way to verify it.
We have ways to verify it. But if you don't trust any of the organisations making the measurement then you won't be convinced.
What I was responding to was your claim that gravity can't explain the current solar system. I'm telling you why it can. That's all. Verifiable or not.
Just as string theory can explain many other phenomenon in the universe, but no one claims we can verify that these days.
>>70058993
>Comments are disabled for this video.
>>70059191
>Nuh uh!
>>70039704
We shot a giant steel rod into the moon like 4 years ago and nobody even batted an eye.
>>70039704
It is pathetic how stupid they take us for, the moon landing was obviously a fucking hoax
http://youtu.be/73eG93vSmiE
>>70039704
nope
moon landing is fucking fake as fuck
>>70039704
http://youtu.be/Nt1SxMsFR98
>Russia says USA did not land in the moon
Guess Russia didn't believe NASA afterall, now what Neil?
>>70039704
>Neil deGrasse Tyson
>didnt even got a degree
>blamed racism
>literally hailed as the epitome of American science
>>70061588
>They want international investigation
Why don't they just take a photo of the claimed landing sites? Why did it take them this long to figure it all out?
>>70062394
http://worldnewsdailyreport.com/chinese-lunar-rover-finds-no-evidence-of-american-moon-landings/
>200 high-ranking officials from the Chinese Space Program have signed a petition asking explanations from the American government and the release of classified NASA information concerning the American moon landings that would prove to the World that the moon landings were not an elaborately orchestrated hoax to fool the World about America’s space program capabilities.
These allegations have come up through recent analysis of pictures taken from the Chinese moon rover that allegedly found no traces of the American moon landings existing on the moon.
Oh shit, China was there and didn'tfind a flag or anything.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3130017/Russian-official-demands-investigation-really-happened-moon-landing-original-footage-disappeared.html
>>70063172
>no source in the story
the shit? This sounds sketch as fuck. Why the fuck would a rover see any of the american landing sites? Unless they deliberately landed it there. If they wanted to verify the landing sites they could just take a photo from orbit
They say the saw evidence of the landing sites here:
>The scientists also spotted traces of the previous Apollo mission in the images, said Yan Jun, chief application scientist for China's lunar exploration project.
http://worldnewsdailyreport.com/chinese-lunar-rover-finds-no-evidence-of-american-moon-landings/
>>70063817
Why the fuck should Russia give a shit about what NASA does?
>>70063817
inb4 americans will claim radiation have corroded all evidence
>>70063172
>believing what china says.
>>70064144
They obviously ate it all
>>70039704
n8 b8 m8
>>70064782
>still believing the moon landing hoax
>>70052405
>You are also assuming there billions of dimensions, and not providing any mathematical evidence for that claim.
I never claimed there were billions of dimensions. But that doesn't stop people from doing math in billions of dimensions.
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graham%27s_number
(much more than a billion though)
We don't need "proof" that more dimensions exist in the real world. Math isn't about the real world. That's what I'm fucking getting at.
>>70066051
>Math isn't about the real world.
It all comes back to the real world though. Shapes don't exist in an fundamental way in the read world, we just see them. You could potentially use billions of dimensions to come to some understand about the nature of all dimensions that might inform some theory about the dimensions that we do know exist.
>>70066540
>25 posts later trying his best to shut it down...
Why are you still here CIA?
>>70066724
I'm on the clock until 12.
>>70050067
>green screen
>mostly the video is for advertise expensive t-shirts about something fake
teespring com/NASA_Fake_Station
ITT: Assmad Eurpoors of all stripes try to deny that the single greatest achievement of mankind wasn't accomplished by the US of A.
>>70067145
>prove it
I play Kerbal Space Program on my PC and it's not that hard to land a rocket on the mun if you're not a big retard.
>>70067145
They keep using pepe images, that dumb frogposter. It's one guy or a handful of them at most. But you can tell they're shilling because all they post are fucking frogs.
>>70063172
so moon hoax only applies only to americans but no to russians and chineses?
>>70066540
>might
There you go.
But honestly yes, I agree with that. Please don't misinterpret what I'm saying as "math isn't useful"
I'm just trying to say that math is not some absolute truth. It's based on assumptions. They're pretty useful assumptions, but they are assumptions nonetheless.
>>70067644
>what is the Van Allen belts
http://youtu.be/NlXG0REiVzE
(03:00 minute mark)
>NASA admits by accident they can't travel with man to the moon or leave orbit
Humans can't travel to the moon
>>70067629
>g-gais the they lies ignore truth hide truth
>>70039704
Rocket surgeon here.
It's true.
so, enough shit posting. one line unanswerable questions, let's go.
>why was there no crater under the lander
>how were the astronauts able to take such clear photos in a completely unknown environment without autofocus
>why has it not been repeated by the many countries with comparable technology today
>why did the Russians shitcan their program. Second best on the fucking moon not impressive enough?
>why did the moon landings stop right around the time of the Vietnam war?
>>70068156
>"math isn't useful"
It's only useful if it reflects on reality in some way directly or indirectly. All math does in some way. Not all will actually find a use in the real world.
Everything is based on assumptions.
>>70068419
>NASA admits by accident they can't travel with man to the moon or leave orbit
It doesn't say anything like that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_loUDS4c3Cs&ab_channel=VideoFromSpace
Fact: I've never seen someone debunk this.
>>70069037
HahHa yes it does, they literally admit to not having solved the problem with radiation starting at the 03:00 minute mark, damn liar.
http://youtu.be/Jp9Y8I6v_Ds
>"we are across United States on earth right now"
http://youtu.be/JgXDi7mc43M
>"Right now we can only fly
In earths orbit"
>>70069808
>people cannot misspeak
Also, please respond to >>70069229
>>70069808
>hey literally admit to not having solved the problem with radiation starting at the 03:00
With apollo? No, they didn't. Astronauts were exposed to radiation during the mission. Some developed cancer later. he radiation far far from the most dangerous part of the mission. Orion aims to have much high safety standards.
>>70069808
>The moon is not in Earth's orbit
Since when?
>>70040408
>>70069037
>we must solve these challenges before we send people through this region of space (van allen belts)
>>70069229
that shill got btfo hard
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3zhZqiSe5c
he even made a video response to this in which he admits that it wasn't impossible to fake the footage at that time, which was the entire point of his original video.
>>70069229
>can't be debunked
http://youtu.be/-3zhZqiSe5c
>debunked
And that Collins guy was payed off by NASA
>>70070244
here's his response to that vid
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-TelJ75pzP4
and then he got rekt again
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zE6OIPlQ3-8
>>70070217
That guy is an idiot.
But the moon and the Earth orbit around a central point between the two, it just happens to be extremely close to earth becaust its far more massive.
>>70070244
>we must solve these challenges before we send people through this region of space (van allen belts)
Yes?
>>70070261
>>70070244
Watching that video, he makes his first mistake less than 3 minutes in. He either purposefully or ignorantly equated video with photography in claiming that high speed film captures are the same as video.
It's nonsensical to waste time on someone this uninformed (or perhaps just stupid).
>>70070425
You could say the same thing about the Sun and the Earth.
I don't see how that's relevant.
The center of the Earth-Moon system is within Earth. So it's hard to say the point they orbit is "between the two" It's not. It's inside the Earth.
http://youtu.be/Y5MVVtFYTSo
>actual movie director who made movies for Hollywood in the 60's says they had the tech to fake it easily
Of course 1968 the movie 2001
>>70039704
>just use the rocket equation lol! so what if it's an equation made up by the same people who made up the moon landing haha who cares if you have no means to verify whether or not the equation is correct lol just look it works in this scenario we made it must be true
black science man strikes again
>>70071170
>I think it was an intuitive feeling that what was being shown was not real
So you guys are literally on the mental level of women and children?
>>70039704
If I built the world's biggest plane, that could theoretically hold enough fuel to fly around the world 400,000,000 times and then took a picture of said "vehicle" IT WOULD NOT PROVE THAT IT HAD COMPLETED SAID TASK.
His argument is bull shit.
>>70039704
daily reminder
every single piece of hoax evidence has been thoroughly debunked
moon hoaxers are possibly dumber than actual retards
>>70070723
The astronauts did pass through the van Allen radiation belts though "genius"
http://youtu.be/lrxpqn3Gb20
>first hand account of experiencing it
And you know damn well what we mean by earths orbit shill hahaha I hope you get payed for this because if you actually believe this lie then I feel sad for you, so blue pilled so gullible such a sucker
>>70071295
>wah wah why doesn't every citizen have access to million dollar rockets and scientific equipment
Why has no other researcher refuted it?
Here's something else for you guys to come up with an explanation for (hopefully it'll be better this time)- if the landing was fake why did the USSR never contest its legitimacy?
>>70039704
Look this rocked is big therefore we went to the moon
Is not a logical facility if it pushes your agenda right?
>>70071578
>sweden
>calling others blue pilled
lol
>>70071467
Why don't you prove it's mathematically impossible?
>That can't be done
So you're saying it's possible.
>Doesn't mean they went.
So it was possible but they decided to fake it? Thats fucking retarded.
Thought I'd just play out the argument for you.
Seriously though... anyone remember this? It was my literally my introduction into the online world. :D
>>70071549
>"ignore the evidence there is no evidence"
>>70071975
Nice meme.
>>70071578
I don't know how we got to the Van Allen belts. I don't know when I said they didn't pass through them.
But I googled for you:
>http://www.braeunig.us/apollo/VABraddose.htm
Read that and come back with your math pls.
Also,
>using hahaha in a post
3rd grade level trolling
>calling people a shill
4th grade level trolling
>>70071642
>if fake then the Russians...
>>70063817
>>70063172
>>70061588
>Russians questions if the moon landing took place
>and the Chinese
>>70055363
>that's a great argument!!!
The moon landing was a hoax, you were suckers.
>>70072320
Interesting they did it only after the advent of the internet.
Why didn't the soviets ever demand an answer?
>>70068419
did a nigger raped your ears and the semen doesnt let you hear right?
