Why aren't you a vegan?
>>69984758
Because apparently being a vegan makes you a cancerous faggot
Proof: OP Pic
>>69984758
Because I enjoy eating the flesh of murdered animals
I need to consume life to live.
I don't care about your feelings and espacially I don't care what state of mind the animals are when they draw their last breath.
I see no difference in taking the life of a plant to an animal.
I think people caring too much about animals is their empathy misfiring.
Could you acknowledge that too much empathy can be neurotic?
>>69984758
Meat has good amount of proteins and vitamins and it also tastes good. Cottage cheese is also good for protein. Milk is a supply of vitamin D for us northerners who don't get sun and it's also the perfect food drink.
Eating nothing but veggies would get stale pretty fast and it's difficult to get everything you need to be a healthy and strong human. I love food's taste and nutritional value.
I'm not allergic to anything and I'm born an omnivore, so it would be silly to set limitations for myself.
Aside from food, there are a lot of products like plastic bags, bike tires, shampoo, fabric softener and toothpaste contain animal substances. It would be mindnumbing to try and keep track of everything I can't use.
As long as the animals are treated well I'm all for eating them.
>b-but what's the point in treating something good if you're just gonna kill and eat it?
I treat myself well even knowing I'm doing to die someday. I've got no problems with animals being pampered before I get to eat it.
>>69985438
you know its unhealthy right? i agree, fuck animals. but.. i don't want to have a heart attack or heart disease or cancer
>>69984758
i am
>>69985921
Pampering animals takes money and time and since human population is evergrowing, they need to industrialize the production of meat a lot to keep up.
Because I enjoy eating meat and consider a part of a normal, healthy balanced diet
I don't need to explain myself further, and to attribute a sense of morality to something as banal as a fucking diet is frankly sociopathic
tbqh I respect vegans, and can understand their views
Only reason I'm not vegan is I'm too lazy, and I like the taste of meat
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>>69984758
What's the answer needed to make you finish killing yourself? Because that's my answer.
>>69986094
Not vegan but I fully support the worldwide human meat consumption to drop by 90% (too ambitious I know, but even a 50% drop would be good)
I don't mind only eating meat once a week instead of 2-3 times a day
>>69984758
Because fuck you I enjoy my organic sirloin steaks. Take that Tofu garbage and shove it up your ass.
>>69985438
I've been a pescatarian for a little over a year now. Feel so much better than before and am in such better shape. Lifting more than I ever have. Have so much more energy.
But yeah being vegan, probably will never cross that bridge.
>>69986334
Enjoy your mercury poisoning
Meat is deeply satisfying. Why do you think so many of us eat meat, you think we're just weirdos who are into torturing animals for no reason? Meat is very good to eat.
Cause meat tastes too good.
>>69984758
Because my love for meat is stronger than empathy for animals
Few things would lead me to suicide.
1.living in India
2.removing meat from diet permanently
3. Losing my testes and penis
I only need these 3 things to be happy in life. 4th being the internet, although not necessarily a necessity for life.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUJD3sGppUo
>>69986502
nice
>>69984758
Eggs are healthy and non harmful.
Honey is pack with minerals
Cheese is a delicious indulgence
>>69984758
I am and it's the only right way at least if you are living in a developed country where you can buy food every 2 metres.
If you can't feel empathy for living vreatures which are only salughtered for your indulgence you are a piece of shit human which shouldn't even be alive.
>that one pic of him in the bathroom with his mutant muscles
>>69986094
>its healthy to eat animals that wish they were never alive, raised knee deep in shit, full of infectious diseases and viruses and pumped full of antibiotics
why is everyone either a vegan who cares more about animals than they do about humans, or isnt a vegan and doesnt give a flying fuck about their own health?
>>69986228
The only thing I would agree to is banning all fast-food joints like McDonalds that waste meat on a burger that only gets it's taste from mayonnaise and pickles and is destructive to your health.
That alone would severely cut meat production.
I'm a real man and not a moral crusading pussy. Enjoy your fucking estrogen induced teardrop face and rotund figure.
Every single meat sub I've tried has been fucking gross and I am not a picky eater
That being said, I wish I could
>>69986626
Plants are living creatures too. Why is it okay to mass-murder them?
>>69984758
I don't want to get all the cancers and vegans age like shit
>>69986636
Actually yeah that would be a pretty good start
>>69986620
other than muh living conditions of chickens, male baby broilers literally get minced alive at birth, just for being born male
>>69986094
>Pampering
What do you mean by this? Not forcing them to live under hellish conditions?
>>69986818
I'd sooner ban smoking cigarettes than I would the production of low quality burgers. Smoking is a serious epidemic.
>>69986768
Plants are not able to feel any pain and please do not try to tell someone otherwise.
>>69986626
but animals kills other animals for food too, with your logic animals shouldn't be alive too wich is a paradox XDDD
i love the taste of meat
>>69987034
But you just do it for your own pleasure, they do it because they actually need to eat them. There are no other options. you have plenty to choose from and live a healthy lifestyle.
>>69986629
>raised knee deep in shit, full of infectious diseases and viruses and pumped full of antibiotics
Not everywhere is America where everything is run and dictated by greedy corporations that just want more and more.
Nordic countries have strict health and hygiene regulations and laws for every food product produced in country and products imported from abroad.
>>69986941
Yes.
I'm not saying no to improving their conditions, but when time is money and money is money, there's no blaming meat manufacturers growing meat faster because of the increasing demand for it.
>>69984758
>Vegan
https://youtu.be/zdKky0zck78
Because meat tastes good and is good for you in moderation
>>69987034
Do Turks do anything besides Roachpost?
>>69984758
I was a vegetarian for a year or two, lost a lot of weight and was generally healthier.
I don't understand being vegan though.
>>69987033
So it's okay to kill a person who has that rare disease where you can't feel any pain?
Meat tastes too good
>>69984758
I would consider it but I don't really have time to whine to everyone I come across. Apparently that's a big part of the lifestyle.
>>69987093
I, too can't imagine living without meat like my fellow meat-loving animals.
Because i like meat.
Besides, vatmeat will be a reality soon, making muh animals a shit argument.
>>69984758
I'm hetero
>>69987178
delete that image right fucking now.
>>69987256
You don't have to be the whiny type. You could also be the condescending and insufferable type who looks down on others from his moral high ground. Because everyone knows that meat eaters are literally Satan.
>>69986818
Yeah but it's up to you to change that. If you don't support your local farmes, which might care more then megacorp chicken deluxe, they will not be able to compete against them.
If you want better animal conditions then buy stuff from those who practice them
>>69984758
Bacon tho
>>69984758
Not eating meat. Come on it's 2016 for God sakes.
Because I like cheese too much. I don't eat meat though so I guess I'm a lacto-ovo paescatarian. Good enough.
>>69984758
He has a funny shaped head.
I don't know why but all these vegans seem to have gammy heads don't they? flipping heck
>>69987178
>A
>FUCKING
>LEAF
>>69984758
Because I am capable of monitoring and having a balanced diet without having to drain the enjoyment out of it in a half-baked attempt to pass off as morally superior
>>69985438
>animals are plants, no difference, i'm a tough, tough guy
>>69987376
No. It's a highly accurate depiction of your average shapeshifting Turk and the world needs to be more aware of your evil powers.
>>69986094
Shitskins are only breeding like rabbits because the civilized world (read: whites) is forced to care for them. Once you remove that buffer, you can forget about "overpopulation", which is only used to blame whites for the gluttony of coddled shitskins even more.
>>69984758
Because being disabled by your own free will is the ultimate cuckoldry.
>>69984758
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pn8Rd3efEqk
>>69986032
Show me where eating meat is wholly linked to heart disease, heart attack or cancer. Show me cases where eating meat was 100% the cause of one of the former, where everything else (lifestyle, genetics, other foods etc) were not the cause.
>>69984758
Because of faggot like him.
Also delicious, delicious meat
>>69984758
Because Hitler was so apparently its bad for your mind
>>69984758
Because I'm a human.
>>69984758
I am not an idiot.
>>69987228
Your sound logic is triggering me.
>>69987219
If we're talking what's better for the animal technically it's better to eat meat than dairy because with dairy they basically rape cows and kill them when they are useless whereas with meat they just raise the animal then kill it. But it's all the same industry really.
>>69984758
is this guy gay? he looks gay desu
If you eat your meat your closer to being like Trump
>>69986032
Oh, sure, it's unhealthy. Living on photosynthesis alone is the healthiest way to go.
>>69988250
DUDE TRUMP LMAO
>>69984758
1 Because it's actually retarded.
2 Because of that guy.
>>69988293
Oh hey I spotted the Bernie Brownshirt
>>69988250
it's too bad he only eats his steaks well done
>>69986094
If the world was seriously worried about population they'd impose a child limit
>>69984758
To be honest, I've been thinking about giving up on meat because I can't afford to eat it fresh.
>>69984758
I don't see any reason why I need to be. Animal products make up a very small portion of my diet anyway. If I want to have steak or pork loin once in a while, I'm going to.
>>69987879
>that fucking turk
Looks like Morgoth corrupted Barry Chuckle tbqh.
I can't explain it but I don't feel comfortable talking about food. Whenever food is brought up I just "Uh, yeah, okay" my way through the conversation. Veganism would basically require me to talk about being vegan and my eating habits all the time so it's a no-go for me.
>>69984758
B12.
>>69988612
Probably because it would force you to acknowledge that no matter what you're eating it's still composed of the exact same particles that come out of your other end, and throughout the course of your life you've probably recycled the particles from hundreds of thousands of people's shit.
I hope you weren't eating right now.
>>69984953
But humanity is overrated.
>>69988617
Vitamin B12 is produced by a bacteria that lives on the soil and even on fresh water, it's not 'created' inside of animals. Farm animals need to get shoots of B12 because their poor diet doesn't allow them to get it because of muh money and production.
By all of your logic, it would be perfectly acceptable and fair to have a higher lifeform come down and eat us/ treat us like we don't matter. I hope it happens.
>>69989729
>Eating meat is eating poop
And eating plants grown in manure isn't? This entire infograph is an appeal to emotion instead of something rational.
>>69987034
Yeah bro, our completely useless fingernails, small canines, small mouths and plantigrade feet that makes us slower means we're born killing machines
go try to kill a deer with your bare hands and see what happens, faggot
>>69989836
You have a point.
>>69989768
>By all of your logic, it would be perfectly acceptable and fair to have a higher lifeform come down and eat us/ treat us like we don't matter.
Yes, it would.
Some say it has already happened.
Some even say that it is happening right now and they tell you how awesome it is that he's prepared to throw the people you don't like in a bonfire for eternity.
Get over yourself. You're a talking primate wearing clothes.
>>69989768
You could use same logic to justify cannibalism of younger weaker lamer element of society too, after all they had poorer cognitive/physical development so it's their fault they ended on the plate, right?
>>69989944
>Implying I give a fuck how inefficient my food is
The planet can die for all I care, I love my cheap meat too much
OP : stop eating shit it's bad for you
(You): i'm going to keep eating shit ...
fatlogic/10
>>69990085
But it's not cheap.
On a side note, I do care for the planet.
>>69984758
I'm not gay.
>>69990191
>But it's not cheap.
It is though, I eat meat every single day without fail and I'm poor as fuck. Not prepacked shit either , actual cuts
>On a side note, I do care for the planet.
Good for you, go save the planet, cause I sure aint going to
>>69990191
It's mostly water, sunflowers is where is it. I get 25kg shelled bakery grade for 32€, it's a good price?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plumping
Plumping, also referred to as “enhancing” or “injecting,” is a term that describes the process by which some poultry companies inject raw chicken meat with saltwater, chicken stock, seaweed extract or some combination thereof. The practice is most commonly used for fresh chicken and is also used in frozen poultry products,[1] although other meats may also be plumped.[2]
>>69990287
>>69990304
And this post right here is exactly why I'm not a vegan.
>>69990429
God that sounds like an awfully boring diet
>Bread rice and beans
>For ever and ever and ever
i'd like to be one, but i don't know how to tell my parents without them ridiculing/beating the shit out of me.
>>69990429
>being vegan is too expensive
>said no one ever
Eating Vegan probably is cheaper, I just like meat and I can afford to eat it, and I will continue to eat until I die.
Come at me.
The only reason there is to eat meat these days is enjoyment, and killing something for anything but necessity is morally wrong. (Fish is a different story because DHA and EPA fats are difficult to get from anything else.)
I'm 6'4", 100kg and pescetarian, so inb4 >muh protein.
>>69984758
because i'm not a cuck and i obey the biological law of humanity, which is we are omnivores that need meat
>>69990645
(You)
>>69990429
100g of sunflowers + 100g of oats + 1 banana/apple is about half euro and one thousand calories( 37 grams proteins, 90 grams of carbs and 60 grams of fat or so).
Meat eaters are seriously retarded.
>>69990304
>I get 25kg shelled bakery grade for 32€, it's a good price?
I don't know, sorry bro.
>>69990482
If you cook the same thing in the same way for ever and ever and ever it's going to be boring, it doesn't matter if it's meat of plants.
It depends on you.
>>69990492
When I told my family I wanted to be vegetarian my mother lost her shit and called me names, then she went passive agressive with me, because I used to a be a bad eater. My father on the other hand didn't give much of a fuck, he laughed and told me to do what I wanted. My friends went from supportive to totally against it.
It is possible to be healthy and have everything you need without eating meat, if you educate yourself you can do it and they won't 'win' you in an argument about eating or not eating meat.
>>69990597
>>said no one ever
It's one of the biggest 'reasons' people give, mostly americans though.
![Apple-Pie-Oatmeal-with-peanut-butter[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/xY4j2fH.jpg "Apple-Pie-Oatmeal-with-peanut-butter[1].jpg")
>>69990473
CARBS ARE BAD MKAY
>>69990833
Meat > that shit
>>69990645
>killing something for anything but necessity is morally wrong.
Morality is a meme. Arbitrary "muh feelings" nonsense which attempts to appeal to a non-existent "standard" to give it weight.
>and now I'm about to have some assmad Christfag make the same appeal like it's any different.
>>69984758
because i must eat the flesh of sentient beings in order to gain their power
>>69990937
>meat of plants.
*or
meh
![tumblr_m4ouosqixn1r8mm6eo1_500[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/dEKxftN.jpg "tumblr_m4ouosqixn1r8mm6eo1_500[1].jpg")
>>69990978
CARBS ARE WHY I DON'T HAVE A GIRLFRIEND
![1457767296847[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/Ol3Rojh.jpg "1457767296847[1].jpg")
>>69991029
>Meat > that shit
>>69990937
>It's one of the biggest 'reasons' people give, mostly americans though.
Where? Show me some statistics. I bet you can't.
>>69984758
There are health reasons against it.
Animal death is acceptable, and is a fact of life.
>>69991095
What the hell is wrong with you?
>>69984758
Because I'm not a faggot who worries about what other people eat.
>>69991129
>I'm a vegan
http://wtfdoyoueatvegan.tumblr.com/
>>69991246
t. low carber aka bacon&steak diet
>>69990597
people actually do say that. obviously meat is more expensive, but if you don't cook yourself, prepped food from the grocery store/restaurants can be very expensive. just has to do with demand.
>>69991037
So you think a tasty meal is worth ending something's life? That it's justifiable just because animals aren't as intelligent?
>>69991328
Even if that were true, I wouldn't be ashamed of it, so I don't know how effective you think your memes are, but you should really consider keeping them on Facebook where they belong.
>>69991133
Nope, I can't, I don't screencap everytime someone says 'but eating plants is expensive' and I don't think anyone has done it.
It's like one of those boogyemans out there, someone heard someone else say that a plant based diet was expensive and ta-da. But again, it comes mostly from americans, I haven't heard a yuro saying something similar.
>>69991152
>There are health reasons against it.
For example?
>>69991449
Yes.
Submit any further complaints to the nearest waste receptacle.
I am almost vegan.
I still eat eggs from my parents chickens though because I know they are treated well.
>>69991381
>people actually do say that
Like who? I don't deny that *some* may say it, but it sounds to me like you guys are claiming it's some sort of majority/mainstream argument - to which I'd have to disagree.
meats fucking yummy and no ones going to give up decent tasting food for green shit that's barely edible.
I'm vegetarian and I regret it since it made me super skinny lel
![12345924_1039893676071603_1573290679_n[2].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/7UZYiM8.jpg "12345924_1039893676071603_1573290679_n[2].jpg")
>>69991303
>t. trainer of antibiotic resistant bacterias
It's like you're asking for the next plague or something.
>>69991449
It isn't tasty per se, they nuke it with pepper and salt.
Raw meat taste like shit.
>>69991596
Eat more potatoes.
>>69991547
>Nope, I can't, I don't screencap everytime someone says 'but eating plants is expensive' and I don't think anyone has done it.
That's probably because it's not a common reason, which you insinuate it is. Sounds more like vegan 'Chinese whispers' to me.
>>69991596
Eat yours oily seeds, faggot.
Peanut/sunflower/pumpkin seeds for the gains.
>>69984758
Cause I study food technology and know that it's a suboptimal nutrition.
>>69990006
Cannibalism leads to all kinds of diseases.
And not meme diseases like heart attacks and cancer, actual diseases.
god gave man dominion over animals and gave us sharp teeth to consume them and nourish ourselves
the only time you should turn vegan is if you're trying to become a trap. the only animal product you can consume if you go that route is semen because it increases your estrogen
>>69991551
Well then you're either deluding yourself or have low empathy. The fact that you call my arguments memes and waste makes me think it's the former though, because instead of resolving opposing ideas you ignore them.
>>69984758
Why aren't you white?!
>>69991597
World is overpopulated anyway tb h
>>69991905
"killing animals is immoral" is not an argument.
It's a request.
>>69991672
Raw meat tastes great, I've had it. Ever had sushi?
>>69991905
Most vegans I've talked to have an excess of empathy bordering on the neurotic.
>>69984758
I enjoy meat in my mouth.
>>69991901
Only if you don't skip the brain,
>the brain, where the prion particles were particularly concentrated
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kuru_%28disease%29
And they're gaining resistance.
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/11/091120091959.htm
A community in Papua New Guinea that suffered a major epidemic of a CJD-like fatal brain disease called kuru has developed strong genetic resistance to the disease, according to new research by scientists in the UK.
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-madcow-gene-idUSTRE5AH5ZY20091118
> Villagers in the highlands of Papua New Guinea who ritualistically ate human brains but did not die of a brain disease called kuru have a genetic mutation that protects them, researchers said Wednesday.
>>69991792
I didn't insinuate it, I said it was one of the biggest 'reasons' americans gave to not eat veggies and eat meat instead.
I didn't say it make sense because it's retarded, but hey, check #fatacceptance and #haes if you want to see what retardation is.
>>69984758
Because my family owns a cattle ranch.
BEEF ! IT'S WHAT'S FOR DINNER !
>>69984758
Because no one ever developed a society from hunting leaves.
>>69992209
Even if you skip the brain it's dangerous. When you eat a human you're essentially eating a receptacle of human disease. There's a reason why every culture in the world avoids it.
>>69992123
>Raw meat tastes great, I've had it. Ever had sushi?
>sushi
Actual raw meat not rice soy and stuff with few fish on the side, you're just proving my argument.
>>69991563
Usher, for one.
>>69992241
And I asked you for 'proof' that it was one of the supposed 'biggest reasons', and you failed to give that.
Time to stop posting.
>>69992389
Wat? It's still raw meat. lmao
And I don't use soy sauce on my sushi or sashimi.
>>69984758
I am a vegan :^)
>>69990905
kek
>>69990937
>It is possible to be healthy and have everything you need without eating meat, if you educate yourself you can do it and they won't 'win' you in an argument about eating or not eating meat.
Pretty much this, people come up with all sorts of arguments like muh protein and muh evolved to eat meat and muh b12. However if you do enough reading about nutrition which takes little time you can easily get 100% of the nutrients your body needs if you also take supplements and you can get those nutrients without the detrimental effects of meat on health.
Its funny that people who are anti-vegan try to act like its bad that you have to take supplements to get b12 while ignoring how meat fucks up your health. Its like they don't care about being healthy at all until they want to point out that you shouldn't have to take supplements.
>>69992395
Nice anecdote.
Still waiting for the statistics/data
>>69992417
I already told you why I don't have a proof.
That pic was made to those people, to the one who believe that eating plants is more expensive than eating meat.
>>69991547
animal derived protein, iron (especialy if you are female), b12, omega acids, fat
>>69991596
I have found eating lots of raw almonds and avacados help me get mad gains when I work out when vegan. If you don't work out you will get skinny because you lose fat but with the right vegan foods you won't lost muscle and will gain it when working out
>>69985594
>Milk is a supply of vitamin D for us northerners who don't get sun
Milk actually has negligible amounts of vitamin D. You should drink it for B12 and calcium though.
>>69992534
>meat fucks up your health
Objective, unbiased proof pl0x
Will not accept "studies" from vegan doctors/gurus/naturopaths or anyone affiliated with any vegan organisations.
>>69992534
Indeed, my vegan greyhound is perfectly healthy on a vegan diet + taurine supplements.
>>69992389
raw meat tastes all right, it has a very neutral taste
>>69991672
I disagree man, unseasoned meat tastes awesome.
>>69992048
I used the word immoral to simplify what I meant. I think most life is valuable because I value my own, so taking a life shouldn't be done without a good reason.
>>69992161
Same here. Veganism is extreme, so the people following it are usually the same.
>>69992209
>well if you eat cows bred for slaughter then you can make the same argument for eating humans
Humans can like, fight back, and shoot guns.
So while you may indeed be able to make the argument, the weapons and guns I presume you're so dead set on taking away from everybody are actually what keeps that from becoming a realistic threat.
You're living in a dream world where you seem to believe that you can just make up rules and people will go, "okay," and they all lived happily ever after.
So when you actually pull out your iron and present your "argument", you might be getting somewhere, but until then, I'm just gonna keep taking this here brisket and smoking it for 12 hours before I politely turn and *tip BBQ sauce*
>>69992719
Are those resons to NOT be vegan/vegetarian?
Meat is toxic, and the abuse of eating protein from animals results in kidney failure.
What are you talking about?
>>69992763
>drink milk for calcium
>muh bones
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/284530.php
'Milk consumption may increase risk of fractures, overall mortality'
A diet rich in dairy products, particularly milk, is promoted to reduce the likelihood of osteoporotic fractures. However, a new study published in the BMJ suggests that a high intake of milk is associated with a higher risk fractures and a higher rate of death in men and women.
>>69984758
I like my feces to have it's roots traced back to dead creatures.
>>69992719
>animal derived protein
You don't need to get protein from animals, the protein from many vegan sources is just as good as meat protein and some sources like hemp are superior because they are even easier to digest
>iron
if you eat the right seeds, nuts and vegetables its quite easy to get enough iron, you just have to know which ones to eat
>b12
supplements or b12-fortified nutritional yeast which is really healthy, lots of almond milk is fortified with b12 too
omega acids
>hemp seeds, chia seeds
>fats
the fats you get from nuts, seeds, hemp, chia and avacados are way healthier for you then the fats from most meats and its quite easy to get enough if you eat those things
>>69992896
>abuse
You should not eat more meat than what your body needs.
Over-eatign mushrooms for example also fucks you up.
>>69992773
So you don't know the direct relation between cardiovascular disseases and meat eating?
Also you don't know that meat eaters have higher chances of developing cancer?
Just to mention a couple.
>>69992849
Actual carnivore predators prey upon the young and the lame which are the ones who wouldn't have MUH GUNS to begin with.
Saturated fat is clogging your brain.
>>69992978
So, you can get all amino acids from plant sources?
>>69992714
Plants don't fill you up as much or for as long. It takes more time to digest meat. If I spent the same amount on chuck roast as you do vegetables. I would get much more full from the roast.
Thats why it's important to have, a large portion of vegetables and a side of meat to retain nutrients, stomach obsorption, and gastrointestinal health.
You guys sound like extremists.
i haven't found the right girl
>>69993029
You don't need meat, and the proof is that meat eaters have shorter live spans and more disseases.
I don't know who are you trying to convince.
>>69992896
>eating protein from animals results in kidney failure
No it doesn't
http://nutritionandmetabolism.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/1743-7075-2-25
>>69993100
>Actual carnivore predators prey upon the young and the lame which are the ones who wouldn't have MUH GUNS to begin with.
And what you'll typically find in human societies is that the stronger members look out for the weaker ones.
Now that probably sounds like a good plan to you, but on the other side of the coin there is actually consequences to giving the weaker members of your species a chance to breed.
As it happens, Veganism is one of those consequences.
Cry more.
>>69993100
Predators prey and what ever they think they can catch.
>>69993147
>Plants don't fill you up as much or for as long.
Have you ever tried oats for example?
>Thats why it's important to have, a large portion of vegetables and a side of meat to retain nutrients, stomach obsorption, and gastrointestinal health.
Nope
>You guys sound like extremists.
Because you're failing to prove that you right?
>>69993031
Where are the studies? Unable to provide them like always
Yes, processed meat has been linked to many diseases, but regular unprocessed meat is fine.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20479151
>>69993421
You're talking out of your ass like you have a PhD in this, but you're unable to cite any of your claims.
Instead of eating plants, eat a bullet instead.
>>69993320
>And what you'll typically find in human societies is that the stronger members look out for the weaker ones.
It's an herbivore trait not an human one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LU8DDYz68kM
http://bigcatrescue.org/why-big-cats-kill-their-cubs/
>>69986626
This is why your country will be conquered. Vegan pussy faggot males. Enjoy your throat kebab Hans.
>>69993314
I said abuse, kidney failure is a lot of damage.
If you don't abuse, you won't get as bad but still bad.
Protein per se doesn't affect your kidneys, it's when it comes from animals.
The digestion of meat creates wastes in your blood that need to be cleaned by your kidneys, when you put your kidneys to work too much they end up failing.
What's the part you don't understand?
Meat is toxic, meat eaters have more disseases and shorter live spans, and the carnic industries & company are destroying the planet.
Do you want to keep eating meat? Do it.
Do you want to keep smoking? Do it.
Do you want to keep getting drunk or high on drugs? Do it.
But don't say that doing so is healthy, good for you, or good for the planet because it's not. It's simply false.
>>69993715
You're delusional if you think that trait is associated with diet.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_YnYf_s9zM
Any more naturalistic fallacies that you'd like me to indulge you in?
>>69993832
No.
Dietary proteins have no affect on the kidneys of normal, healthy individuals. Only in those that have pre-existing medical conditions.
http://jissn.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/1550-2783-1-1-45
http://nutritionandmetabolism.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/1743-7075-2-25
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10722779
In fact, high protein diets have been shown to lower blood pressure and helps fight type 2 diabetes… which are two of the main risk factors for kidney failure
http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/78/4/734.short
>Do you want to keep eating meat? Do it.
>Do you want to keep smoking? Do it.
>Do you want to keep getting drunk or high on drugs? Do it.
Oh shut the fuck up. Now you're just babbling like someone who was BTFO and is too much of a child to admit defeat.
>>69993783
>This is why your country will be conquered. Vegan pussy faggot males. Enjoy your throat kebab Hans.
Most of the Indian boxing and wrestling champions come from the Jat Caste, which is mostly vegetarian, and Jats are one of the ‘martial’ castes , heavily represented in the Indian Army.
>>69993715
What are some good veggie rich dishes m8?
I've been trying to start eating orzo+lenticchie more lately, and having porridge for breakfast.
What are some good protein rich dishes?
I usually eat pasta every day and I have no problem finding vegetable recipes that go well with it, but as my second meal I usually eat something more protein rich.
>>69984758
Pic related
>>69992601
Not sure why you want it. If you just do a quick google search, you'll see that it's a topic that is discussed fairly heavily, otherwise there wouldn't be so much content out there talking about it.
>>69993106
yes, in fact you can get all of them just from hemp seeds
>>69994273
Peanut butter is kinda high on protein, 22-25%.
>>69987344
/thread
>>69994799
peanut butter is kinda gross
I meant as a meal to have
I usually have one big meal for lunch and one big meal for dinner
>ITT: Meat eaters who were convinced by their fat mummies that bacon and eggs are healthy for you.
Enjoy dying at 60.
>>69994799
Also high in saturated fat. Artery clogging goodness!
>>69995007
Try lentil burgers / gluten steaks then, they've very meatlike look and high on protein.
http://bargainbabe.com/recipe-easy-lentil-burgers/
http://www.vegansandra.com/2015/11/perfect-homemade-seitan-steaks.html
>>69994108
Eating meat makes you more likely to develop diabetes
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23779232
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21831992
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23354681
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3942738/
>>69994273
some of my favorite veggy or vegan foods for mad gains after lifting
yogurt+banana slices+chia seeds+hemp protein powder
Almond butter on bread with banana slices (almond butter has even more protein then peanut butter)
Bean and rice burritos made with whole wheat tortillas and with tomato slices and avacado inside
Stir-fry with kale and spinach
>>69995121
eggs are actually not bad for you if they're from healthy chickens that eat natural food and not shitty processed shit
>>69995262
>Also high in saturated fat. Artery clogging goodness!
U wot m8.
Fat
48 g
Saturated 7 g
Monounsaturated 24 g
Polyunsaturated 16 g
>>69986620
>eggs are healthy
nope google some studies
>Honey is packed with minerals
nope its just sugar
>Cheese tastes good
Ok, but its not good for you
I don't care about the animals but I care about my health thats why I went vegan. I don't crave any animal products and feel better. Although the only annoying thing is reading every single label to make sure theres no traces of animal products.
>>69995121
Eggs ARE good for you, you retarded bong
This isnt 1995
>>69994668
Nah, you show me. I asked you for the data.
>>69995347
So you want to do. you > eggs > "organic" chickens > healthy green nutrients
When instead you could just do You > healthy green nutrients.
Animals don't magically have nutrients in them for you to eat, they get them from green foods.
>>69986817
It's because they go outside without sunscreen. Forrreal look up how damaging sun is to the skin
>>69995338
Your studies include processed meats in their pools. I don't deny that processed meats are bad for you.
>>69988250
overweight?
>>69994108
>http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/78/4/734.short
Just to mention one, you're talking about untreated type 2 diabetes.
The kind of diabetes you get from being too fat and/or having a bad diet.
It doesn't say it 'helps fight'.
It doesn't have any long-time study.
It's based in a one meal thing during some weeks.
It doesn't point that foods high in carbohydrates are also higher in sugar. -> Less sugar, less problems with diabetes.
So if I got myself diabetes and instead of eating foods high in carbohydrates -that have higher amounts of sugar and I have problems with, because goddamn I got myself diabetes,- I eat foods with less sugar and more protein I may have less problems with diabetes?
That's very different from 'protein helps against kidney failure'. Which btw, I already specify that it's not protein per se, it's the 'source' of that protein. Protein from plants don't leave as much toxic wastes in your body/blood as protein from animals.
Do you need a study that tells you that water makes you wet?
Try google and look it up for yourself.
You're the one trying hard to prove... what?
That eating meat is healthy and good for you?
It's not, get over it.
I don't care if you die at 35, 55 or 85, nor if you're healthy or not. I really don't and I don't say it in mean way. If you really want to do it, do it, really. But stop trying to convince with this bs that meat is so good and all.
You're trying to prove that the sun is not warm, ok m8.
And btw, I don't have a study that says that the sun is not warm. Do you want one?
>>69995493
why not? eggs are good
My sister has chickens and I get some tasty free eggs
>>69995493
>healthy green nutrients
>>69988028
Are you Greek diaspora?
Because i dictate what nutrients enter my body and i dont give a fuck about your feelings. I dont want to have to track down where my food was killed and that it lived a hum de dum life or not before buying it. Vegans are vegans for their own moral superiority over people rather than their own health
>>69988617
The reason meat has B12 is because the animals are given B12 supplements. Why not cut out the middle man and use a B12 supplement yourself
>>69995722
>blah blah blah blah
Fuck off idiot. I'm done with your posts until you can cite your claims.
>>69995445
They're not, eating them regularly will just result in you getting a little protein and a lot of cholesterol.
You are right though, this isn't 1995, we have more information and less talking heads on TV telling us to go on low carb high fat diets.
>>69990597
>until I die
won't be very long then :^)
>>69995493
>Vegans are this fucking stupid
Not surprised
Animals do have nutrients in them, you colossal idiot, without them they wouldn't be alive.
>>69986032
Enough of anything could probably give you cancer
>>69995493
>Just eat dirt! All the nutrients are there.
Plants don't magically have nutrients in them for you to hurr, durrhurr nurr.
>>69995945
Fun fact: everyone dies, even vegans. If meat kills me, so be it. :^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^):^)
>>69984758
Vegans are self rightous faggots
>>69995955
>missing the point entirely
Animals get their nutrients from green foods, so why do we have to eat animals to get their nutrients when instead we can cut out the middle man?
>>69995955
>Animals do have nutrients in them
Yeah and who put them in? Plants did.
>>69995805
>Vegans are vegans for their own moral superiority over people rather than their own health
>let me tell you about why you do something
because i would probably kill myself if i had to live off shitty tofu meals
>>69996069
>Why even eat dirt? Just eat volcanic rock, all the nutrients are there.
>>69996053
It's a rather normal reaction when you're surrounded by idiots.
>>69984758
Damn, pol is full of shitposting today.
>>69995926
>80 calories
>mostly unsaturated fat
>tons of protein
For an active person, not a landwhale, eggs are a super food. I'm a personal trainer I have to know my nutrition, eggs are not bad for you, quite the opposite. In moderation they are great.
>>69996069
>Carnivores get their nutrients from green foods
>>69996102
Without nutrients, they wouldn't have even been born. They wouldn't exist. There is nutrients in meat.
>>69996176
Looks like ol' aussie bean here has run out of arguments.
Just admit you agree with the logic. Also on a vegan diet you will have so much more protein than you did eating meat.
>>69996102
You sound like someone from idiocracy talking about electrolytes.
>It's got nutrients!
>>69996254
>Without nutrients, they wouldn't have even been born. They wouldn't exist. There is nutrients in meat.
Eat my cum, idiot :^)
they are pussies too scared to take on islam for it's poor treatment of animals
>>69996254
Carnivores get their nutrients from their prey who eat green foods.
>>69996431
>they are pussies too scared to take on islam for it's poor treatment of animals
http://www.peta.org/blog/cruelty-behind-muslim-ritual-slaughter/
>>69996336
You need to eat about 300 grams of broccoli to get 100 cals.
While you need to eat one slice of steak.
>>69996069
Humans need proteins, fats, cholesterol, etc. etc.
Yes. Humans need cholesterol. Cholesterol is also KEY for the production of testosterone.
>>69984758
>vegan stains
Is this cunt still a thing? I haven't been of /fit/ in little under a year
>>69992534
denmark 10/10
>>69984758
Because I'm addicted to meat. Meat and caffeine.
>>69996336
Wow, so you mean I could eat three plates of broccoli and get the same amount of protein as a whole small piece of beef?
Just stick a corn stalk up my ass fampai.
>>69989729
>If i eat 1kg Roast-beef = one child in Africa dies.
I have pleasure on taste of meat and do something good for the planet. If i eat 10kg Meat in Month.
KeK
>>69984758
Because the faggots think the switchblades and pocket knifes are good for fights
Protip a full tang is better then a pocket knife and a gun is way better then both
>>69993218
>and the proof is that meat eaters have shorter live spans and more disseases.
Not really. Most of the world eats meat, the ones that go vegan are more likely to also be active in other healthy habits like exercise and low consumption of junk food. Meat has a very high nutritional value and necessary fats packed into a small, filling cut. To get the same benefits from a plant you'd have to eat entire bowls of veggies.
>>69996336
I just joined the thread. I've not even argued with you.
I don't agree with the logic, because people are omnivores.
Your picture is wrong, and even if it weren't wrong, there's no such thing as "Protein". There are many different proteins and amino acids that are all essential for a healthy body. Nutrition is not just protein/fat/carbs, it's many orders of magnitude more complicated than that.
>>69996193
>Italian intellectuals
>>69996503
You can get your recommended amount of cholesterol from butter or cheese. Doesn't explain why you have to eat eggs.
Sounds like you would be just fine on a vegetarian diet if cholesterol is all you're worried about.
>>69996659
Hemp has more protein than meat.
>>69996169
>tofu is the only source of non-meat protein
>>69984758
Meat tastes good
Hurt vegan feelings make a good seasoning
>>69996722
Yeah pretty much.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Italian_inventions
Stay mad.
>>69996831
Plant proteins arent complete and only around 60% of the protein is absorbed. Eggs/Milk have an absorption rate of nearly 100%, meat has about 90%, all complete proteins too.
>>69996659
Without the risk of heart disease/cancer I say having to eat more food is the last thing you should be worrying about.
>>69986502
>mfw I remember India has designated shitting streets
>mfw having a toilet in your home is the San Fransisco equivalent of India
