Obama will go down as the worst president ever
>mfw I defended Obama for years
It's unbelievable how much damage he's done. WORST PRESIDENT OF ALL TIME.
>worst president ever
on /pol/
Until president clinton (f) is sworn in
>>69862707
>mfw I bite on this weak bait
Not even close to the worst, look up some of the late 19th century goofballs.
>>69862707
That shitty nigger recovered us from the worst economic crisis in a generation, passed universal healthcare, and killed Osama.
What an awful president. He hardly invaded any countries and the stock market didn't collapse even once. He'll never beat GWB's stats.
>>69862707
t. what people say about every mediocre president
might be worse than lincoln, fdr, and lbj combined
>>69862877
which one of them funded ISIS?
>>69862707
He's going to have to do some serious clown level fuckery to top Wilson. I don't know if he has enough time left.
Keked but true
>>69862963
>That shitty nigger recovered us from the worst economic crisis in a generation
yeah that president sure helped lift up the market with his executive bailouts, it wasn't congress or the fed
>passed universal heathcare
this is a bad thing, you faggot
>and killed osama
literally any president would have given the okay. He didn't find Osama, nor did he fire the bullet.
I hope you're baiting me
>>69862963
>>69862707
He won't if shillary gets elected.
>>69862707
He's nothing..
Absolutely awful.
People talk about how good he is at diplomacy at least.
Well you know, if in a negotiations you bend over, pull your pants down, and say fuck me.
Well yeah, everyone is going to like you real good.
He's a fucking joke.
>>69862707
>>69862808
poorly educated males detected.
>>69862963
>That shitty nigger recovered us from the worst economic crisis in a generation
not even lefty sites believe that
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/8/14/1411883/-Behind-the-Numbers-The-Anatomy-of-a-Low-Wage-Recovery
>passed universal healthcare,
Obama care is not Universal Healthcare, it's just a hand out to insurance corporations
>killed Osama
Osama got caught because of a defector walk in. Not really an accomplishment
Also he funded ISIS
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2015/08/10/former_dia_chief_michael_flynn_says_rise_of_isis_was_willful_decision_of_us_government.html
> stock market didn't collapse even once
Because he gave trillions to Goldman Sachs.
Not really something to brag about.
Really Obama is just a huge wall street and k street whore, so if you like those corrupt institutions I guess he's alright, but if you care about the US at all I don't know how you can defend him.
Don't worry guys we can start paying off the debt soon. Nvm my kids can do that.
if Obama was republican he would go down as one of the greatest presidents
>>69862963
Joblessness is far worse under Obama than it was under Bush
>>69862817
go pound sand straight up your asshole
>>69862707
That's what we were saying about Bush Jr in 2007.
Never underestimate the Federal government's ability to excel at being worthless
>>69862707
he's doing all right
he's kept the economy afloat
he's kept the country safe, so far
long term both are null program, but that was going to happen with or without him
t. traditional conservative
>>69863277
>cucked muzzie loving germanfag detected
>>69862707
he won't.
He'll get the PC "first black guy" spin and they'll do everything they can to make him sound good.
HE WON THE NOBEL PRIZE FOR NO REASON!
WOOOO GREAT PRES!
>>69863288
Obama is just Bush 3.0 and Bush is hated
I can't imagine what would have happened in the media if Bush had funded ISIS like Obama did.
>>69862707
>>69862808
>>69862817
>>69862877
>>69862963
>>69862983
>>69863025
>>69863030
>>69863072
>>69863108
Do you guys talk to normies or go outside ever? i agree he literally has been the same as bush in most aspects but literally so many people i come in contact with genuinilly think he dindunuffin.
Read the comments of some of his latest speeches.... like wyf.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIdvEUxCN5o
LOOK AT THE LIKES AND DISLIKES.
"I metaphorically look at Obama as that one "Good Girl" every Guy (The US) gets.
The guy is usually to dumb and immature to recognize what he has and usually messes things up. Its not until she leaves him that he recognizes what he had and regrets not appreciating her."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3q8tkoqdAlU
Once again look at the likes and dislikes and the comments.
GO TO ANY TOWN, and people will literally pretend "obama dindu nuffin" WHILE PROBABLY HATING BUSH.
BUT IT'S LIKE NEWS FLASH....they are ALMOST THE SAME,
please help me understand /pol/ please help me fight the good fight.
>>69863108
is this from the circus or where?
>>69863025
Also a big-eared-jug-head-nigger
>>69863390
you're right, or expanded the drone program, people would have gone nuts if bush did that
>>69863324
>>he's kept the economy afloat
no,he's propping it up. it will bust anyday now
>he's kept the country safe, so far
terrorist attacks every month is not safe, black people rioting in the streets, mexicans flooding the southern border, and obama is air lifting millions of muslims into america as we speak. how the fuck is american safe?
>>69863324
>he's kept the economy afloat
By giving trillions to Goldman Sachs and fucking over the rest of the economy. And that was just W's plan, he just continued it. That's not really something to brag about.
>he's kept the country safe, so far
What? No he didn't.
I'm not sure how you measure that though. Do you go by foreign policy fuck ups or DHS? It's not like he changed the DHS in any meaningful way, and he has fucked up in just about every way in foreign policy.
>>69862707
He's still going to have better rep than Bush Jnr.
>>69862707
he'll be as fondly remembered by democrats as Reagan is by republicans
>>69863471
where do you live?
everyone in the south hate obama, even the niggers
>>69863324
>the economy is afloat
the economy is floating itself, no disasters and the invention of fracking are doing that. Thanks Obama for inventing fracking/shale.
>country is safe
yeah we've only had the worst race riots since the 60's and an increasing number of Muslim migrants that are not even screened for terrorist affiliations. Whats so bad about that? Don't you feel safe, if not you are racist!
>>69863471
People only "like" him because they're trying to prove they're not racist
>as if there's anything wrong with that
>>69863471
most people I meet are extremely dissatisfied with him because he didn't save their manufacturing jobs or he didn't fix the banks. People my age loathe him due to the Snowden affair
the only people that like him are older white collar people
promises kept
>>69862707
He won't be remembered for doing 9/11 like Bush.
But he will be remembered for selling out to Soros. And Illuminati.exe
But that was in the plans for a long time, even with Bush and before him with Bill.
>>69863517
Or destroyed Libya
Or destroyed Yemen
Or destroyed Syria
Or destroyed Ukraine
Or continued the war in Afghanistan
Really Obama can do literally nothing right
Well that's not entirely true he got the Iran deal "right" but for completely wrong reasons. He didn't do it to mend relations with Iran (the same deal he passed was put forward to Bush in 2001 but rejected by the Bush administration) he only did it to fuck over Russia after Putin cucked him in 2013.
>>69863153
maybe that has something to do with drones not really being a thing when Bush was first sworn in to office?
>>69863492
I don't see anyone paying a dollar for a look at your mom so probably not.
>>69862707
Why?
>>69863153
the y axis should not have a label
>>69863153
drones weren't as prevalent in bush's though
>>69863611
The economy is on life support
There's no demand, stagnant wages, and increasing costs, but hey at least Goldman Sachs is ok!
http://www.unz.com/mwhitney/the-chart-that-explains-everything/
>>69862817
Well she did say she'd be his "third term"
>>69863606
>>69863698
Indianapolis and i live in the place "voted best place to live in 2012" which is the suburbs like 20 mins from downtown so i guess people can be kinda hipster.
For school i am in nashville. i am mainly talking to kids my age so maybe that's a factor.
>>69863757
>>69862707
you'd think so, but people remember LBJ fondly, so probably not.
>>69862707
no he won't
RepubliKKKans are mentally ill. Admit it, you just hate him because he's black.
>>69863832
>>69863757
yeah they were though
the technology was their, but there was no political will for it.
The ones we use now were functional by the mid 90s
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Atomics_MQ-1_Predator
>>69863914
white cucks who are insulted from Obama's bullshit, and they don't want to seem racist
>>69863611
He hasn't been tested. Even Clinton had a rougher ride than him.
I'd say he could handle it better than Bush...but he basically turned cop-shootings-as-usual into a professional mini L.A. Riots franchise system.
Fwiw his international standing is as bad as Bush's but different reasons. Bush was a bull in a china shop, Obama was an ostrich with his head in the sand. The effect of what both of them have done in the middle east and how it's rolled on to their European vassels might be there real legacy.
>>69862707
Trump, along with other economists, are saying a recession is looming
Just wait for it to happen and people blame it on Bush, Republicans in Congress, and President Trump, before he's even in office.
>>69863944
The economy is on life support right now because Obama bailed out wall street instead of main street
The only thing that really changed under Obama was that the FED cut interest rates (which was all Bernanke anyway who was appointed under Bush) which still doesn't help working class people with the low demand in the economy. It only helps wall street.
>>69863704
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qw5G6fF-wqQ
>>69863519
>no,he's propping it up.
yah, that's what I said
>terrorist attacks every month
you ain't seen nothing yet. a dozen here ain't shit. that's a weekend in chicago
nothing close to 9/11, but what comes next will be 1000x worse
>black people rioting in the streets
protesting, making noise. how many white people have died? again, just wait
>mexicans flooding the southern border
that's been happening for decades
but more are returning than coming now, actually, and obama has deported more than any other president.
>air lifting millions of muslims into america as we speak
you're retarded. no he's not
>>69863550
he bailed out the banks to keep everything going. the bankers were rich before they got bailed out. they weren't the ones in serious trouble. the american people were; and yes W started the bailouts. Obama just continued them, so why complain about Obama, again?
>>69863611
QE and low interest rates, etc. are keeping things afloat. not tightening has kept things going too; long term unsustainable, sure, but there wasn't ever a long-term to begin with, so he bought some more time which is good
>worst race riots since the 60's
these are protests, snowflake. see above
>Muslim migrants that are not even screened for terrorist affiliations.
they are, to the extent we can. he could be tighter, but either way we were in trouble. they get into canada, sneak across the northern border; get into mexico, sneak across the southern border. something's coming; can't stop it, then ww3. isis is just jv
He will be remembered as "The Purger." Now that all the socialists and degenerates are out in the open, God may lay out his hand and smite the wicked. Rejoice for the Flood is coming!
Was terribly mediocre. Would have done better/worse depending on who you are if the Republicans didn't dig their heels in against him at every turn. Completely forgettable. He'll earn a nice footnote in the history of the world saying: "A black president! Wow!"
>>69863783
OP here. Income inequality has gone up since the recession and he has done nothing. He has also failed to deschedule marijuana from the Schedule 1 substances list.
>>69862707
Better late than never I guess. Now you get to tell your grandkids all about how you personally contributed to the collapse of western civilization.
>>69864086
you know the bank and auto bail out occurred under bush right? the obama administration gave more money to the banks, yes, but let's not act like the entire bail out happened under him
>>69862963
>>69863142
>>69863278
I love how Liberals whine about Wall Street, then use Wall Street tripling under Obama as an accomplishment
>>69862707
Wrong, he will go down as the greatest, thanks to one factor.
Hes fucking black, and the first black president cant do a bad job.
Every fucking time he screws up or does something as stupid as what Bush did he gets praised for it, look at just recently.
Fucking dancing and smiling at a ball game while people got blown to fucking bits and said "if you cancel all your plans, the terrorist win" thats on par with fucking "if you kill them, they win" or "now watch this drive"
>>69864106
>>protesting, making noise. how many white people have died? again, just wait
did you take a wrong turn at google or something?
>>69864106
>they weren't the ones in serious trouble
Banks were the ones in serious trouble, but were average working people. Guess who Obama bailed out? Yeah Goldman Sachs big surprise.
also
>campaigns on "hope and change"
>does literally exactly what Bush wanted
how is doing exactly what Bush did change exactly?
>>69864086
>The only thing that really changed under Obama was that the FED cut interest rates (which was all Bernanke anyway who was appointed under Bush) which still doesn't help working class people with the low demand in the economy.
Christ, the economy is supposedly doing well, yet it's been three months since the Fed raised interest rates.
>>69864106
>nothing close to 9/11, but what comes next will be 1000x worse
Nothing will be close to 9/11
Biggest one was 300 and that was in Russia
>>69864260
Democrats seem to be the biggest globalist corporate whore cock suckers on earth
look how they all treated Steve Jobs as Jesus. I mean at least Steve Jobs did "invent" things in a way, Wall Street on the other hand is fucking worthless, just parasitical rent seeking leeches, yet they still suck them off.
>>69863471
obama's approval rating has been bush levels since he got reelected and it just happen to go up when millennials became the majority of the adult population
make of that what you wil
>>69864264
>Destabilizes the Middle East just as poorly as Bush
>Floods Europe with Muslims, a situation that may literally spell the closing on one chapter of human civilization that even WW2 failed to do.
>Will always get a Get-Out-Of-Jail-Free-Card because no one wants to seem racist.
>>69864285
jeb's son
>>69863944
>Straya
>>69864374
The economy isn't doing well, but you have to look at the stagnant wages instead of the unemployment rate.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/8/14/1411883/-Behind-the-Numbers-The-Anatomy-of-a-Low-Wage-Recovery
>>69863606
Obama has good intentions but pushes his agenda regardless of what people want. Legalizing same sex marriage could have been done by any state at any time but they didn't because polls showed they didn't want it in their states and it failed repeatedly at the state level. Obamacare(regardless of if you agree with it) was passed without a single republican vote because he used loopholes to pass it forcefully. And don't even get me started on the national debt. When Bush left office it was 10.5 trillion. So he has almost doubled it.
>>69864285
nigger, I've been here since before the 2012 election
why don't you address the point? because you can't
there have been no massive race riots or murders. there may be in the future, but not yet
if obama got knocked off, then you can worry
grow up
scapegoating is for pussies
>>69864298
>how is doing exactly what Bush did change exactly?
you're asking the wrong person. I didn't buy into the bullshit and I didn't vote for him. maintaining the status quo is exactly what I'm giving him credit for
there's no fixing it. this country is fucked and ww3 is coming
they're just buying some more time until then
>>69864298
>Exactly what Bush wanted
Wrong.
>Neo-Con plan: Install proxy governments controlled by the U.S. military in the middle easy
>Democrat plan: Knock it all down and hope the last man standing agrees to be a U.S. Proxy
Kind of different.
>>69864432
Amazon, Apple. Google, Starbucks, and others have CEOs that make millions and thousands more compared to wages of workers, yet Liberals give them a pass.
I read some saying it's okay because the companies are worth billions and CEO's salary is proportional to the company's value.
>>69864427
what comes next will be 1000x worse, and what comes next will just start the ball rolling. ISIS is JV; Russia will put the lights out
ISIS has nukes, nerve gas, etc., and they're planning a simultaneous attack in multiple Western countries. where the fuck have you been?
>>69864550
I know it's not doing well, but everyone month Liberals and Obama are always patting themselves on the back for 200K jobs
I love this site
http://dailyjobcuts.com/
I was surprised I saw on CNN and FOX that Boeing is laying off 4,000. I doubt those employees are going to find the same job any time soon.
>>69864597
>maintaining the status quo is exactly what I'm giving him credit
A house plant could keep the status quo
>>69864601
>Knock it all down and hope the last man standing agrees
Don't get ahead of yourself. The Democrat plan is to use Saudi Arabia to fund a Jihadist takeover of every Shia State.
ISIS isn't a bug it's a feature.
>>69864609
That's the modern Democrat party for you
As long as the CEO of Apple is gay they don't care that Apple uses slave labor in China to build Iphones.
>>69864686
Just let it happen already. I don't want a slow burn, just an fast extinguish
>>69864806
>A house plant could keep the status quo
yes, and?
I'm arguing against the OP that says "WORST PRESIDENT EVER OMG!"
how is a house plant so bad?
>>69864790
>I was surprised I saw on CNN and FOX that Boeing is laying off 4,000
The industrial sector is getting holocausted under Obama, you're just supposed to look at Mcdonalds and Walmart service sector jobs to pretend that things are getting "better"
He finished the long term plan of moving all "growth" to wall street. Can't make real money any other way now.
>>69863944
No, but I am mad because he was elected based only upon race.
>>69864806
>ISIS isn't a bug it's a feature.
No, I know.
The Neo-Cons fire up the military contracts and kick the shit down.
Obama is more fiscally responsible and lets the CIA do it's usual destabilization process.
And we get the usual blow back. The difference is that Islam in the Middle East moving towards Europe is a whole lot different than Communists in Latin America moving North.
>>69864864
he's done worse than that
>the worst racial tension in decades
>even worse foreign policy than Bush
>worse economic policies even than Bush
I don't think even Bush could have passed TPP or kept interest rates this low for this long.
>>69864886
m8, was it any different under Reagen, Bush or Clinton?
>we gotta work smart, not hard
>>69864512
Actually, ya, kinda ya, Hillary is responsible for some of that destabilization and she gets an out of jail free card because shes a woman.
The proof of both of those two doing shady shit exists, has been read, and nobody cares.
>>69862963
Reminder that influence teams are on /pol/, compliments of the Bernie Sanders campaign
>>69864459
>and they're planning a simultaneous attack in multiple Western countries
god damn I almost want to see that happen just to see the cognitive dissonance on the left
>Don't you understand ISIS wants you to be mad that they just nuked paris, the solution to this is to take in more refugees
>>69862707
I wouldn't say the worst ever, he's really just been a continuation of the Bush presidency
He'll be remembered for the mess that is the Affordable Care Act but aside from that he'll be essentially forgotten
>>69862707
>at presidential inauguration
>trump being sworn in
>a spiteful obama is handing over the presidency
>trump shakes obama's hand after being sworn in
>obama turns around to leave expressing a forced smile to the croud
>he stops short to hear one last statement from donald
>"oh, wait, obama... you're fired"
>croud explodes in thunderous aplause
>obama storms of stage fighting back tears
>obama is remebered as the guy who got fired by donald trump
>>69865059
meant for
>>69864686
>>69865059
You're at a point now where you want to see attacks not because they will change the opinion of the left (they won't) but because you just want to see how they'll explain.
The sad thing is they no longer even jump through mental hoops.
Now it's just;
>Fuck white people lol they got what they deserve
>>69864943
>The Neo-Cons fire up the military contracts
Obama basically is a neocon though. He even tried to get us into Syria in 2013 over bogus "Assad has WMD weapons" lies
>Obama is more fiscally responsible
Except that's a terrible idea in a recession
but so is cutting the federal funds rate to nothing for 8 years
>>69865072
Depending on how things go in the next 8 years, he'll just be seen as a slowing down of the Bush insanity.
If Hillary gets in and shit really hits the fan, he might be seen as the beginning of whatever shit storm she started.
>>69864979
blame the media and the universities
Obama has been fairly conciliatory
foreign policy is normal. we're preparing for ww3, knock a few bad apples down, appeasing the big ones until war is inevitable
economic policies is just buying time. interest rates are set by teh Fed, not Obama. considering there's ~60 trillion in debt (not including derivatives) and only ~20 trillion in GDP, low interest rates keep the game going
raising them would just precipitate a cascade like you saw in '08
>>69865059
yah, at that point the left will fold
once plausible deniability goes out the window, they're lost
>>69862963
The economic shit was just a continuation of Bush policies
Obamacare is a disaster, it benefits insurance companies and no one else
He had jack shit to do with killing Osama other than signing the order to do so which anyone in his position would've done, except for Bill Clinton who said no to killing Osama when he had the chance
>>69865045
Ya you're right >>69862963 seriously sounds like a shill.
Reminds me of that girl who made up a fake sexual harassment post on Facebook saying "I'll make her a good republican bitch" lol.
>>69862707
>people forgot George W. Bush
The economy collapsed under him. Obama had to deal with the fallout. The bailout you blame Obama for? Bush's plan, Obama just signed it. Not to mention the worst foreign policy disaster in the last 50 years, the Iraq war.
Obama is bad but he doesn't come close to George W. Bush tier bad. Obama's a 3rd quartile president, George W. Bush is a last quartile president.
>>69865189
I mean fiscally responsible in regards to warfare. Not in general.
He's not going to drop a trillion on an occupation until the country has already been ripped down from within.
>>69864994
Of course not
Clinton passed NAFTA and pushed the Dot Com bubble, Reagan deregulated wall street and increased taxes on workers, Bush promoted the sub prime bubble/more wall street loans.
They were all terrible.
But Obama gets a free pass for TPP/bailing out wall street when the monopolies should have just been broken up. Where is Teddy when you need him?
>>69865245
>we're preparing for ww3
Only a total retard would think WW3 is inevitable
>>69864560
Underrated post
>>69865346
Defense spending is great though Reagan did it to end the 80s recession.
Technically Hitler/FDR did it to end the Great Depression.
>>69865235
>If Hillary gets in and shit really hits the fan, he might be seen as the beginning of whatever shit storm she started
Hillary will win, unfortunately
I'd love to see Trump win but it's not realistic to think that he will
Hillary will put us on the war path hard and we'll see another major war because of her
The only candidates who wouldn't put us on the warpath are Trump and the Bernout
>>69865285
Obamacare isn't so bad actually
It's expensive for young white males, but overall it's for the best
government subsidizes the healthcare system, meaning more jobs, more coverage, etc.
it's also in preparation for a pandemic or biological attack. Obamacare strengthens the system in the meantime by expanding it. still won't be enough, but it's better than nothing
>>69865285
If Obamacare had led to a more socialized medicine system like the NHS, people would look at it more favorably (regardless of how well those systems work or not).
At the moment it literally just feels like a scam to feed rent seeking insurance companies.
I don't know if that's what he wanted, or if he hoped this would be a step towards socialized medicine.
It's one of the few "good" things he's done.
Shit like Gay Marriage was literally just scoring easy bonus points on pointless social issues.
The weird thing about him being a "Liberal" president is that he's not even a good liberal. He has arguably the worst foreign policy ever, creating more wars to fight, straining the formerly improving relationship with Russia and allowing a free trade program that completely fucks over American workers (actually I guess fucking up the economy is pretty liberal).
He's Bush, but with the words of a progressivist (arguing for change while a second term president kek)
>>69865377
>Nato commander: Isis ‘spreading like cancer’ among refugees
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/mar/01/refugees-isis-nato-commander-terrorists
>CBRN substances have been carried undetected into the European Union
>European governments...should consider publicly addressing the possibility of a terrorist attack using chemical, biological, radiological or even nuclear materials
>Paris...Washington DC, London, And Rome were specifically mentioned, as well as targets in Belgium
http://www.europarl.europa.eu/RegData/etudes/BRIE/2015/572806/EPRS_BRI(2015)572806_EN.pdf
>Tests of the uranium seized confirmed that it was high-grade material that could be used in a nuclear bomb.
http://bigstory.ap.org/article/9f77a17c001f4cf3baeb28990b0d92eb/ap-investigation-nuclear-smugglers-sought-terrorist-buyers
>jihadists are also said to be recruiting foreign experts to help them develop nerve gas.
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/620801/ISIS-chemical-attack-UK-nerve-gas-intelligence-officials-believe
>French army guards water facilities as France's fears of a CHEMICAL ATTACK intensify
>Hospitals and emergency services across France have been supplied with the antidote to Sarin...and other nerve gas chemicals for the first time.
http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/621076/French-army-guards-water-facilities-Paris-attacks-France-risks-chemical-war
>The ISIS laptop contains a 19-page document in Arabic on how to develop biological weapons and how to weaponize the bubonic plague
http://foreignpolicy.com/2014/08/28/found-the-islamic-states-terror-laptop-of-doom/
>ISIS supporters have posted...messages warning of the countdown “till the zero hour”
http://english.alarabiya.net/en/media/digital/2015/05/18/-Countdown-to-zero-hour-ISIS-supporters-on-Twitter-post-Italy-threats.html
>"They want something that happens everywhere at the same time"
http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/german-jihadist-returns-from-syria-and-gives-testimony-a-1067764.html
>>69863471
He looks completely tired of all of the bullshit in these videos.
>>69865377
>>69865483
And ISIS is only JV;
>Russia poses an existential threat to the United States, and to the NATO alliance as a whole.
http://news.usni.org/2016/02/26/document-2016-u-s-european-command-posture-statement
>A group of warships from Russia’s Pacific Fleet has entered the Mediterranean waters for the first time since the Cold War
http://www.businessinsider.com/russian-fleet-enters-mediterranean-2013-5
>Russia's military plane provocations worsening, NATO chief says
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/russias-military-plane-provocations-worsening-nato-chief-says/
>Russia’s decision to send long-range strategic bombers on regular patrol missions across the Gulf of Mexico is unprecedented, a senior U.S. military official said Wednesday, claiming that the country has never done so before – even during the Cold War.
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2014/11/13/russian-defense-ministry-says-bomber-patrols-will-reach-gulf-mexico.html
>Russian submarine activity topping Cold War levels
http://www.janes.com/article/57650/russian-submarine-activity-topping-cold-war-levels
>Russia to Launch Massive Ballistic Missile Test From Nuclear Subs
http://www.haaretz.com/world-news/1.706931
>Russian submarines and spy ships are aggressively operating near the vital undersea cables that carry almost all global Internet communications, raising concerns among some American military and intelligence officials that the Russians might be planning to attack those lines in times of tension or conflict.
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/26/world/europe/russian-presence-near-undersea-cables-concerns-us.html
>Russia 'simulated a nuclear strike' against Sweden, Nato admits
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/russia/12139943/Russia-simulated-a-nuclear-strike-against-Sweden-Nato-admits.html
>“Putin is rearming more rapidly and extensively than Hitler in the late 1930s.”
http://upnorth.eu/the-estonian-defence-model-shoot-to-kill/
>>69865377
At some point in the future it will happen
10 years or 100 years from now it will go down
>>69865502
>>69865483
>>69865377
>The commander of Israel's Home Front issued a stark warning on Monday that the Middle East is headed for a full-scale, multi-front war that would see the use of weapons of mass destruction.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/israel/8744913/Full-scale-Middle-East-war-is-imminent-warns-Israeli-general.html
>Hezbollah is preparing for what it says will be its biggest war ever.
http://foreignpolicy.com/2016/03/03/hezbollahs-death-valley/
>Hezbollah Moving Long-Range Missiles From Syria to Lebanon, an Analyst Says
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/03/world/middleeast/hezbollah-is-said-to-transfer-missiles.html
>'Assad shipped chemical weapons to Hezbollah,' says former Syrian general
http://www.i24news.tv/en/news/international/middle-east/131002-assad-shipped-chemical-weapons-to-hezbollah-says-former-syrian-general
>Russia Is Arming Hezbollah, Say Two of the Group’s Field Commanders
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/01/11/russia-is-arming-hezbollah-say-two-of-the-group-s-field-commanders.html
>Russia Sends More Advanced Missiles to Aid Assad in Syria
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/17/world/middleeast/russia-provides-syria-with-advanced-missiles.html
>American intelligence analysts have concluded that a recent Israeli airstrike on a warehouse in Syria did not succeed in destroying all of the Russian-made antiship cruise missiles that were its target
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/01/world/middleeast/syrian-missiles-were-moved-before-israeli-strike-officials-say.html
>Iran test-launched two ballistic missiles Wednesday emblazoned with the phrase "Israel must be wiped out"
http://bigstory.ap.org/article/c9e2945ea3ef4dd9972f23cf663ac99e/iran-fires-2-missiles-marked-israel-must-be-wiped-out
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samson_Option
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_Hand_(nuclear_war)
>>69865330
Obama is just Bush lite.
Which is probably a good thing, because McCain probably would have been Bush Super Sized.
>>69865348
I was a little kid, but I remember the Clinton speeches to steel workers and the such.
>Ya'll gotta go to college, because it's going to about working with this (points at head) and not these (puts up hands).
>>69865285
It may be a disaster if you're a non senior man (which granted is a lot of fucking people) who already paid for insurance. Our rates went through the fucking roof so we could carry the load of everyone else but no one will complain because no one really gives a shit about men.
>>69865502
>>69865483
>Russia
>relevant
I wish John Oliver was here to remind us what year it was
>>69865455
>At the moment it literally just feels like a scam to feed rent seeking insurance companies.
Yep that's what it is
>Shit like Gay Marriage was literally just scoring easy bonus points on pointless social issues.
This is also true
It was gonna happen regardless so he hopped on the train
>>69865603
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Novichok_agent
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_biological_weapons_program
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tectonic_weapon#Reports
and that stuff is decades old..
more recent;
http://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/1104/1104.5008.pdf
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-34797252
http://phys.org/news/2016-01-killer-robots-late-scientists-davos.html
His foreign policy is a joke.
Domestic policy was not horrible.
Obama could do nothing for the next couple of months and he will go down in American history as one of the better liberal presidents in the US. The only black mark to his domestic policies is that race tensions have increased during his tenure. Only coal fags and m-muh fossil fuel fags think hes shit. Tough cookies for those who rely on coal and oil as a source of income. The rise of alternative energies make coal, and fossil fuels less attractive and economically viable. It is basic economics. No one is complaining now that carriage sellers went out of business with the invention of the car or that farmers were pushed out of the country side and into the factories with industrialization.
>/pol/ fags will actually refute this.
>>69863599
I sure hope not. though I don't think much of Reagan either.
The last Monument tier President was Ike. Kennedy could have been but he was cut short.
>>69865330
>MAH BUSH
It goes all the way back to Clinton
http://content.time.com/time/specials/packages/completelist/0,29569,1877351,00.html
>>69865444
Pretty much how I see it.
And I'm just a nobody, but I honestly feel like everyone is underestimating how violent the pendulum swing in Europe will be.
I know they've got the best minds in the world feeding them information, but I also feel like they underestimated the blow back from Syria too.
I think Merkel is going to represent as important a figure in this period of history as either Clinton or Obama.
>>69865522
>>69865664
Those make for nice headlines but aren't relevant at all
If WW3 ever happened it would have to be from a real threat like China (and only decades from now) not fucking Iran/Russia who are militarily irrelevant.
If Iran gives nukes to Isis, he very well might.
>worst president ever
republican version of current year
>>69865603
Reminder that the EU has over 100 million more people in it than the US, and our GDP per capita is far superior.
>>69865671
>Only coal fags and m-muh fossil fuel fags think hes shit. Tough cookies for those who rely on coal and oil as a source of income. The rise of alternative energies make coal, and fossil fuels less attractive and economically viable.
But the US has seen a huge increase in oil production under Obama thanks to fracking (which he opposes)
are you high?
>>69865671
You're an idiot. Fossil fuels are by far the more attractive economic option but government is trying to force alternative energy.
You can say that's a good thing fine but don't pretend like wind/solar/geo are even close to being economically viable.
>>69865747
Yeah but the EU is being raped by wall street neoliberal jews like Robert Rubin and Goldman Sachs and half the countries are former soviet bloc
It's not a fair comparison.
>>69865464
I've always liked this idea.
Imagine if Trudeau spoke as he does, did all the photo shoots as he does, but was literally mass deporting Muslims and shutting down the borders.
It's not like the average person gives a shit about the actual policies and their implementation. They just like the sound bites.
Sort of like how all those Japanese far right psycho parties call themselves "The Party For Peaceful Brotherhood And Pan Asian Unification".
When what they mean is;
>Kill all the Chinese and Koreans
>>69865787
>no source
The US has also seen a large number of cuckolds in recent years
source: you.
>>69865833
>>69865671
And we've had a huge increase in oil production
last time I checked oil was still a fossil fuel.
>>69865671
Wind and solar are meme feel good energy sources, they're not viable for grid energy, nuclear is the best option for that
It doesn't make sense to torpedo the coal industry and hope that it will be filled by solar and wind cause that just can't happen
>>69865833
Reading comprehension is not your strong suit. I said less economically viable. Not saying its not anymore you dingus.
>>69865884
right here by deciduous friend
>>69865914
>>69865691
Technically it goes further back than even Clinton, although the deregulation and scams started to pick up steam under him.
But it's pointless. It was coming under any establishment President no matter what. Republican or Democrat.
Even more galling is that they watched it happen in Asia in the 90's and said;
>lol, I mean, lightning never strikes twice right?
>>69865940
prices have gone down because the Saudis are trying to drive frackers out of business.
http://www.businessinsider.com/one-reason-saudi-arabia-likes-lower-oil-2016-1
>>69865691
Clinton was a third quartile too maybe one of the lowest in the second quartile if he's polled favorably.
Really though we haven't even had a DECENT president since Kennedy and he had the potential to be one of the best.
>>69865930
>Be Australia
>Be the most Earthquake and flood resistant continent on Earth (fuck off Antarctica)
>Have the worlds largest supplies of raw material for nuclear power
>Have a country fucking full of hippy leftist greens
>Have our top scientists begging us to switch to Nuclear
>"lol, fuck off, Hiroshima Nagasaki, amirite?"
gave taxpayer money to corrupt banks, with no strings, no punishment for fraud
his healthcare policy punishes the poor and gives money to insurance companies
his "travyon could have been my son" remarks led to literal race riots that continue to this day
how could anyone like him?
>>69865726
>muh money
the Russians have been building an apocalyptic war machine for decades
you didn't read the links. you should.
>the Soviet program is known to have weaponized and stockpiled the following eleven bio-agents[1] (and to have pursued basic research on many more):
>Bacillus anthracis (anthrax)
>Yersinia pestis (plague)
>Francisella tularensis (tularemia)
>Burkholderia mallei (glanders)
>Brucella spp (brucellosis)
>Coxiella burnetii (Q-fever)
>Venezuelan equine encephalitis virus (VEE)
>Botulinum toxin (botulism)
>Staphylococcal enterotoxin B
>Smallpox
>Marburg virus
>there had been two secret Soviet programs, "Mercury" and "Volcano", aimed at developing a "tectonic weapon" that could set off earthquakes from great distance by manipulating electromagnetism, said "We don't think it is impossible, or wrong, but past experience suggests it is very unlikely". According to Nature these programs had been "unofficially known to Western geophysicists for several years". According to the story the Mercury program began in 1987, three tests were conducted in Kyrgyzstan, and Volcano's last test occurred in 1992.[2]
etc.
war is coming soon. it will be hell on earth
>>69865729
ISIS hates Iran more than anyone else
Salafism regards Shiites to be far worse than any other religion because they see Shiites as corrupters of Islam
ISIS has massacred countless Shiited and called for them all to be killed
In fact Iran has Quds Force in Iraq fighting ISIS as we speak
>>69866129
>the Russians have been building an apocalyptic war machine for decades
KEK
your batshit paranoia is entertaining. I bet the neocons love you.
>>69865940
"They're not even close to being economically viable". Therefore there is no less. They can't touch fossil fuels. The only way these things are ever even considered is because of government incentives given out for clean energy and taxes levied against the big bad greenhouse emitters.
>>69866129
Russia is an old washed up meme
You should go back to the 70s where you belong
>>69866274
cool counter-argument
feel free to actually read the sources I posted
sticking your head in the sand is just going to get your ass roasted
>>69866090
That's the problem with nuclear
Boomers immediately think "nukes raining down from Moscow HOLY SHIT" as soon as they hear the word nuclear and the hippie crowd is against anything that isn't solar or wind despite the fact that the manufacturing of solar panels is extraordinarily toxic and that solar only provides energy during "off hours" of power usage and that wind is similar in that regard as it is unreliable and creates grid resonance
>>69866356
they're sure not acting like it
>“Putin is rearming more rapidly and extensively than Hitler in the late 1930s.”
http://upnorth.eu/the-estonian-defence-model-shoot-to-kill/
etc>>69865502
read the links, kid
>>69862707
>Bush leaves office with 34% approval, war under his belt, skyrocketing debt, a collapsing economy
>Obama sitting around 50% approval, nation still not collapsed
I mean, I get that he's not the best, but he's far from the worst. Really, his biggest mistake was being moderate and trying to compromise on everything. Partisan politics means if you compromise at the start, then the other side will simply move farther to the extreme, and your own base will dislike you.
>>69866360
>>69866430
Russia is an industrial wasteland
You're worried about ghosts or old dinosaur bones coming back to life. It's almost cute, except I know that idiots like Kasich think like you.
>>69866356
I'll put it this way; our military commanders and intelligence operators know better than you.
>>69866499
ohh watch out the Ruskies are coming with their abandoned factories and rusting tanks.
>>69866482
see >>69866499
and of course, >>69865502
also, don't forget about the middle east;
>>69865522
these days all paths lead to rome
>>69866430
Yeah their new tank broke down in the middle of their parade to show it off
Lel
Russia is still decades behind the West
>>69866401
They keep pushing these fucking windfarms and sun farms, and cite our very successful hydro electricity systems without realizing they're all completely different.
Every time someone brings up Nuclear (including actual Leftist Greens who want to switch away from Gas/Petroleum) the populist argument is "MUH JAPAN!" without realizing that Japan is a fucking tiny Island plagued by geological instability.
>>69866550
kek ok buddy
maybe you should call into Coast to Coast.
>>69866538
>cobalt bomb
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-34797252
never has a man existed on earth that was more hyped up and didn't deliver
>magic nigger
>>69862707
He's the best President since FDR.
If he was allowed to tand for President again, he'd win.
obama is LITTERALY WORST than HITLER
>>69866587
Greens are so steeped in dogma they won't even bother learning about other viewpoints
It's a religious movement more so than anything else
>>69866611
>worried about war with a country that barely has a higher GDP than Canada
KEK
Maybe Canada will take over the world next.
>>69866666
CHECKED
>>69866559
>decades behind
it's a lot easier to burn down a house than to build one
read the links. Russia is simulating nuclear strikes on European countries
they are expanding their military presence to levels not seen since the Cold War, and in some cases, beyond
let he who has eyes see...
>>69866593
just read the links kid, then argue with them, if you can. I'm just passing along the message
>Russia poses an existential threat to the United States, and to the NATO alliance as a whole.
http://news.usni.org/2016/02/26/document-2016-u-s-european-command-posture-statement
>>69866629
It's funny because he's the exact opposite of FDR
FDR wasn't a wall street whore while Obama is nothing but a wall street whore.
>>69866670
>muh GDP
money isn't going to save you
>>69864560
>>Obama has good intentions
da fuq?
he's literally a communist who wants to destroy america
>>69866670
that country has the 3rd most powerful military in the world still, and has the largest nuclear weapons stockpile as well.
I'm not saying Russia's an immediate threat.. but I am saying they're not something that can just be ignored.
>>69866783
>>69866751
>money isn't going to save you
And rusting Russian tanks aren't going to kill you
>>69866773
I think he's got FDR's speaking ability most of all. He's just painfully easy to like when you talk to him.
>>69866795
They couldn't afford to buy the UN lunch much less fund a war
He was bush 2.0.
>>69866819
you shouldn't be worrying about tanks...
and again, don't just take my word for it
according to your "logic" the American military command and NATO command are all just "paranoid" too
kek, again, I'll take their word over yours
plus, there's a ton of corroborating evidence supporting my view. your defense is...pictures of tanks and denial?
>>69866862
They can afford to modernize their strategic nuclear weapons. See the Bulava.
We're not even updating our strategic weapons, we're still using cold war nukes and gradually reducing our stockpile. Russia is modernizing theirs.
>>69864560
To be fair on the debt, Bush kept most of the war off the books. Obama changed the rule to account for all expenses, which means that we are simply seeing the true cost of it all.
>>69866862
and yet, >>69866430
>>69866826
Reagan, Clinton, and W were like that
The last uncharismatic president was probably HW
Going to bed
Goodnight bros
Going to pray to kek for a victory in Wisconsin
night
Obama will be remembered far more fondly than /pol/tards and ignorant tea partiers like to assume.
He'll go down as more or less a centrist establishment president, who nonetheless pushed some things to advance America's social equity, while also doing some bad things that usually come with the office. Also, being black ultimately didn't mean much, but the symbolism of it will always be remembered.
>>69866970
>>69866988
I know you guys like to LARP about the Cold War but this is just sad.
>>69866751
>Russia is simulating nuclear strikes on European countries
Of course they are
We do the same shit all the time, so does China, so does India, and I'd bet dollars to doughnuts that Iran has done the same with regards to Saudi Arabia
It doesn't mean they're preparing for war
Russia is only belligerent in that they occasionally attack weak nations just to exert a little more influence from time to time
Russia couldn't even successfully defeat Germany in a war now straight up no outside help for Germany
>>69866794
You retard, he's a Muslim Nazi who wants to destroy the family and implement feminist sharia!!
>>69863922
our government has been doing this for literally decades now, what's your problem commie?
>>69866666
Checked
>>69864459
>obama's approval rating has been bush levels since he got reelected
that's literally not true, he's hovered around 50% for the past year or two
bush was at low at the mid 20s and was in the 30s for his last year
>>69867005
>nonetheless pushed some things to advance America's social equity,
Somehow I doubt you want to mention the Goldman Sachs bailouts then
oh wait economics don't matter as long as you suck dick.
>>69866666
>>69866644
checked
>>69866795
>I am saying they're not something that can just be ignored
They're essentially a boogeyman for NATO to wargame against
Russia doesn't want war with the West, he's an incredibly smart man and knows that nothing good would come from it
>>69866999
>>69867046
the cold war stayed cold. no problem
cold war is over. next one will be hot
tanks are irrelevant. next war will be fought from the sky, from the ocean, biologically/chemically, electromagnetically, etc.
>>69867047
>Russia's military plane provocations worsening, NATO chief says
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/russias-military-plane-provocations-worsening-nato-chief-says/
>Russia couldn't even successfully defeat Germany in a war now straight up no outside help for Germany
delusions. with this weapon alone >>69866611 Russia could end world civilization as we know it
pride goes before a fall
>>69867063
In the 80s they had the excuse of hindsight being 20/20
What's Obama's excuse? "Oh surely THIS time when we fund terrorists things will go great?"
pathetic
>>69867119
What the fuck man? Did I not say that he also did some typical establishment shit? Bailing out the banks was a social faux pas, but that doesn't discredit him from passing through things like Obamacare.
>>69867257
>tanks are irrelevant. next war will be fought from the sky, from the ocean, biologically/chemically, electromagnetically, etc.
Only in your imagination.
>>69867193
you're projecting your wishful thinking
Putin has enjoyed a >80% approval rating for years. people miscalculate all the time
Hitler started a war he lost. Russia has a kill/death wish
study history
>>69867302
nope, advanced weapons exist and I've already provided the links. if you can't put 2 and 2 together, that's your problem
>>69867293
>social faux pas
destroying the economy for the benefit of wall street is not a "faux paus" it's a little worse than that.
>Obamacare
You mean the handouts to insurance corporations? Do you realize how much Obamacare fucks over the middle class for the benefit of a few mega corporations?
>>69867293
Obamacare was an utter failure though and just serves corporate interests.
Although that's the fine print no one cares about in the history books.
>>69866611
that cobalt fucker is a poisonous thing
with other bombs you want the area to be cleared off radiation after a while, with this one it's about making it unusable for decades, maybe centuries.
>>69867257
>military brass itching for war no matter the circumstances
Well color me surprised
>>69867337
Of course Putin is wildly popular, this doesn't mean that he carries with him some desire to start WWIII
He's pragmatic above all else and certainly above your "historical death wish" claim
>>69867302
guess what, retard? those are (West) German tanks, not Russian
>>69867046
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bulava_%28missile%29
>Developing new SLBM in 2013
Also developing new SSBN's to carry and launch them:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Borei-class_submarine
Meanwhile our SLBM is the Trident II D5
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UGM-133_Trident_II
First in Service in 1990 and we're scheduled to use them until 2040.
The subs that carry them have been in service since the late 1970's, and they won't be replaced until almost 2030.
This thread made me lose hope in humanity.
>>69866090
>Have our top scientists begging us to switch to Nuclear
citation required
>>69867426
right;
>A cobalt bomb has never been tested because of the devastating radiation it would unleash.
radioactive cobalt lasts ~5 years, btw
>>69867482
they're not "itching" for war. they're recognizing provocations and escalation on the Russian side. Again, I actually have numerous sources backing my claim. you have fucking nothing but denial and wishful thinking
>Of course Putin is wildly popular
point is, with that much positive feedback, especially in an atmosphere where real dissent is impossible, one gets an unrealistic view of oneself and one's abilities
>He's pragmatic above all else
no, you're projecting, perhaps. Russia is arming Hezbollah and other enemies of Israel. that alone could start ww3. it is reckless behavior
>certainly above your "historical death wish" claim
you clearly haven't studied history then
>>69867382
>advanced weapons exist
All the weapons the USSR ever needed existed in the 60s and guess what? They were never used.
>>69867486
like it even matters.
You can find signs of Russian decay all over, no one pretends that Russia is the power it once was except for Cold War larpers like you.
>>69867553
Again like it matters when you have nukes.
>>69866751
Alex Jones is ready to take your call now
>>69867193
Like I said. Not an immediate threat, but not something that can be ignored.
You'd have to be a complete fuckwad to just assume Russia will never try something and drop vigilance regarding them. They buzz our ships and fly close to our airspace with nuclear capable bombers all the time testing for our vigilance
It's not necessarily hostile, and those bombers probably don't even have ordinance on them.
But they will keep checking for weakness forever.
>>69862707
>people will adamantly say he was a good, even great president
>will argue tooth and nail
>mfw its simply because of his complexion
>>69867782
Russia can barely afford food yet you think they can afford WW3
kek
>>69867866
>>69867839
He's really been pretty average. Dunno if many people remember the Bush years anymore, but our foreign image was so bad literally every country made fun of us and assumed the US would make a fool and an ass of itself everywhere Bush visited.
Obama has at the very least gained international respect for being a human being willing to listen and shake hands. That's why the international community is so afraid of Trump. He'll show up and hit them with his dick like a patriot.
>>69867866
They're spending $50 billion a year on their military and actively developing new weapons, in particular, new nuclear weapons.
>>69867727
Your sources are generals spouting rhetoric so they can justify massive budget increases to buy all their favorite new toys
Putin has never allowed public opinion to delude his ability to think critically
This is his major strength
The United States military is in a permanent offensive posture
Putin is not an idiot who is going to let nukes fly
>>69867987
>shake hands
well he'll flop hands at least
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=arv-ObKYMHM
>>69867727
in those 5 years - everything would die.
this torpedo is 2 times as powerful as a tzar bomba.
it could create tsunamis.
"Such a torpedo was envisaged in 1950s, during Cold War, by nuclear physicist Andrei Sakharov - later a famous dissident and peace activist"
The future is bright. Bright with a light of the thousand suns.
>>69867727
>radioactive cobalt
> After one to six months, the fission products from a thermonuclear weapon decay to levels tolerable by humans. The conventional three-stage thermonuclear weapon is thus automatically a weapon of radiological warfare, but its fallout decays much more rapidly than that of a cobalt bomb. Areas irradiated by fallout from even a large-yield thermonuclear weapon begin to increasingly become habitable again after one to six months; a cobalt bomb's fallout on the other hand would render affected areas effectively stuck in this interim state for decades, of habitable, but not safely so under constant habitation conditions.
> After 10 half-lives (about 53 years), the dose rate would have decayed to around 10 mSv/hour. At this point, a healthy person could spend 1 to 4 days exposed to the fallout with no immediate effects.
> After 25 half-lives (about 130 years), the dose rate from cobalt-60 would have decayed to less than 0.4 μSv/hour (natural background radiation) and could be considered negligible.
The image you showed are is from their port destroying nuclear torpedo.
Russia wants to show that it could destroy US ports and make the coastal areas inhabitable.
>>69862707
>Obama (d)
>Carter (d)
>Taft (r)
>Lincoln (r)
so its a tie. which party is more evil and un american? results will be in by 2020!
>>69868026
>$50 billion a year
you realize what chump change that is right?
>>69867760
>All the weapons the USSR ever needed
obviously not, since they kept building weapons, and kept advancing weapons technology
>They were never used.
you know what they say about past performance...
the cold war was cold. The cold war is over
>like it even matters.
yah, you're an idiot. you post pictures of supposedly Russian tanks to "prove" your non-existent point, and even your flimsy evidence doesn't even hold up. older weapons on both sides are recycled. it's fucking nothing
>You can find signs of Russian decay all over
an injured bear is a dangerous bear
>>69867761
cool story
just read the sources, kids
Maybe our NATO commanders should also call into Alex Jones?
Best pres evaaa!
>>69868026
you are responding to some underage troll or some delusional cunt trying to delude Russia out of existence, why bother
>>69867866
a nation seriously planning for ww3 isn't terribly concerned about maintaining its economy, init
>>69868026
>They're spending $50 billion a year on their military and actively developing new weapons, in particular, new nuclear weapons.
Literal peanuts when it comes to military spending
That's not even enough money to develop new vehicles for nuclear warheads let alone bring their military up to Western standards
>>69868148
>>69868212
The only thing they're worried about is how they're going to get through next winter without freezing to death.
>>69868234
That's exactly what they're doing though. The bulava missile and the borei class submarine to carry it.
$50 billion may sound like chump change but it's actually the third highest military spending in the world, behind the US and China.
>>69863757
They actually talk about making the first predator drone to take out Osama in the 9/11 commission report. Clinton din't want to do it though.
>>69868106
>>69868196
I'll give Eastern Euros a pass since it's ok if they're sacred of spooky ghosts
But if you're from the US you should know better. Russia is a joke.
>>69868051
my sources are generals, leaders, and respected news agencies all pointing to the same thing
>Putin has never allowed public opinion to delude his ability to think critically
how the fuck would you even know, fanboi?
>permanent offensive posture
do you know what offensive means?
>Putin is not an idiot who is going to let nukes fly
Putin may not even be alive, at this point;
http://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/62397548
pic is from earlier today; Russian Ministry of Defense building in Moscow
>>69868234
>That's not even enough money to develop new vehicles for nuclear warheads let alone bring their military up to Western standards
In the US, yes. You spend a ridiculous amount of money for even the most inane shit. The financial inefficiency of your armed forces makes me think that your army is a money laundering scheme.
>>69868105
almost everything
one could hunker down underground if the facility were advanced enough
>it could create tsunamis.
right, and earthquakes. it's all coming
>>69868341
>Top five countries by military expenditure in 2016. According to the International Institute for Strategic Studies.[2]
They're behind Saudi Arabia and even the UK
Lel
>>69868448
top lad
>>69868404
Your problem is that you're trying to use "argument from authority" in a time when no one has authority.
No one trusts generals, and no one trusts the media or politicians when they call for war.
Everyone remember Iraq and what a joke bullshit war it was. No one is going to fall for your dumb war mongering anymore, certainly not any Americans.
>Putin may not even be alive, at this point;
KEK
>>69863944
>I lived long enough to see liberals use the rise of the DOW as a sign that everything got better
>comparing stats from peak economic crisis to 6 years later
>>69868448
what's the point of cutting costs when you can afford anything?
>>69868106
the image is supposedly a device that would hold a cobalt warhead. that's what the article claims, anyway...
>>69868136
>implying it's even an accurate figure
>implying Russia doesn't already have enough ordnance to destroy the world as you know it
>>69868374
You have no idea. They are rebuilding a massive land army while the US has none, because the US wants to be a naval empire controlling the seas.
Heartland vs Rimland.
>>69868448
It is to a degree, but not by elected officials. The military has their own palms to grease.
>>69868292
they may not be worrying about the next winter..
>>69868448
There's a reason why our military dwarfs all others combined
>>69868404
>"look at my sources pointing to the flavor of the month apocalypse scenario!"
>>69868608
>Russia nukes planet into nuclear winter
>Putin emerges from his bunker to proudly survey new world empire
>>69868570
>when no one has authority.
you're full of shit. the authorities have authority. they have intelligence to back it up too, some of which is public knowledge that I've shared here. you clearly haven't taken the time to read the articles
your "defense" is to close your eyes and your ears and keep insisting it's going to be okay
war happens. it's in our nature. it will happen again, soon
"I know not with what weapons ww3 will be fought, but ww4 will be fought with sticks and stones" -Einstein
another pesky authority for you
>No one trusts generals, and no one trusts the media or politicians
kek
>DURR IT'S ALL A CONSPIRACY LOOK AT THESE RUSTY GERMAN TANKS GUISE
>>69868589
But how the fuck can you spend $5 BILLION on developing a fucking uniform? Are you just artificially drumming up your military spending to look mighty to the rest of the world?
Honestly makes me think that maybe the American military isn't as strong as it makes itself out to be. Talk about paper tigers.
>>69868608
>implying Russia doesn't already have enough ordnance to destroy the world as you know it
Yeah and they never did because whoever is running things cares more about staying alive than started a nuclear war.
This has been proved true for almost 70 years now.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mutual_assured_destruction
>>69868619
Yes Poland
Any second those bones of the USSR are going to hop back to life just like in ghost stories.
>>69868628
thanks Chicken Little
>>69868619
>They are rebuilding a massive land army while the US has none
>>69868619
USA has the largest land army on the planet with over 300 million guns, one for every person. that is more then the top 10 other land units combined..
>>69868234
>Literal peanuts when it comes to military spending
it's the matter of PoV. It's all about the buying power of money. It's relevant to your location.
50 $ billion*70 ruble for not overpriced shit) like American ones) = very serious and very REAL trouble.
>>69868659
the articles have been tracing the same pattern developing for years
yes, you could actually read them. ignorance isn't going to get you anywhere
>>69868747
>neutrino telescope (SAGE, the Soviet–American Gallium Experiment SAGE) located 3,500m deep
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baksan_Neutrino_Observatory
the powers that be didn't just plan for war...
on the other hand;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0-GxoJ_Pcg
