The oceans are becoming hotter, Nothing is happening..
Rain has stopped falling on crops, Nothing is happening..
It's the hottest decade on record, Nothing is happening..
Ice in the antarctic is melt unusually fast, Nothing is happening.
Freak weather events like rapid freezing has begun in area's that have never seen theses events before and if they have, Nothing is happening..
Freak Storms that are becoming more and more violent are effecting the US cost creating the perfect storm, Nothing is happen..
How about that global warming, eh? Or NONE LIKE IT HOT.
>>69060245
Polar shift Nigger get over it
I think everyone pretty much agrees the climate is definitely changing.
>>69060245
>The oceans are becoming hotter, humans are causing this...
>Rain has stopped falling on crops, humans are causing this...
>It's the hottest decade on record, humans are causing this...
>Ice in the antarctic is melt unusually fast, humans are causing this...
>Freak weather events like rapid freezing has begun in area's that have never seen theses events before and if they have, humans are causing this...
>Freak Storms that are becoming more and more violent are effecting the US cost creating the perfect storm, humans are causing this...
>We should give more money to Jews in the government so they can fix this problem for us just like they've fixed every other problem they've wanted to fix for us
>>69061224
The same way it has been changing from the dawn of earth, manmade climate change is a lie perpetrated by the left.
>>69060245
>the eather has existed for millions of years
>the climate is not constant
>>69061444
That's what I mean. It could be natural or manmade, either way it's going to happen.
>the world is ending goy
>trust me
>stop producing anything
>stop having white babbies
>now get into massive debt
>also let in millions of shitskins :^)
>>69060245
Rising sea levels increase volcanic activity Ash blocks sun gets cold again new ice age. it'll even itself out in the end.
>>69060245
Actually, I believe global warming has been projected to be mostly beneficial to most first world nations.
>>69062223
Yes by cramming all the 3rd world shitholes into them
>>69062765
No? Off the top of my head, there are many benefits to warmer climates. Better agricultural yields, more efficient energy usage (it is cheaper to cool than to heat), and less deaths due to cold weather which kills much more than heat-related deaths.
>>69062223
Most major European cities are old as shit, so they're located well inland because back then beackfront property was considered a deathwish.
The USA on the other hand? Start naming inland American cities.. Chicago...Dallas...Phoenix...Denver...St Louis...Kansas City...Louisville...
There aren't too many. Chicago is the only American city with global sway that wont be underwater for climate change. It's a problem for the USA, a big one.
>climate changes
no shit?
10 000 years ago my country was under ice, caused by humans too?
>>69063254
>less deaths due to cold weather which kills much more than heat-related deaths
hot areas are full of mozquitoes.
>>69060245
Just let it happen. The global oil market will not stop. Just let that ice melt. The oceans are absorbing the excess carbon and warming. It's a massively slow process but, whatever. Set in our ways until we lose land over it.
>>69063289
There are a shitload of inland American cities (Houston is number 4 for example). Also, it's not like the sea levels suddenly rise overnight; it's a gradual process and coastal cities can move inland.
>>69063639
Civilized countries control insect populations; it's not hard.
>>69060245
>roo flag
post discredited
We need to just push society into fusion energy. Society will never stop using energy for the benefit of the planet. as it doesn't directly affect a good number of people yet.
>>69060245
OP is a faggot who believes everything his government masters tell him.
>>69061444
Climate changes regularly, but billions of humans pumping CO2 into the atmosphere and reducing vegetation contributes. It only takes the most basic of thinking to figure it out.
>>69064347
yeah i mean who needs to prove anything
just think a little
Do you really want to have a conversation about anthropocentric global warming? Seriously? Or do you merely want to shitpost as your flag would suggest?
riddle me this Batman, which of the four is your solution to global warming?
1. more nuclear power, perhaps thorium etc
2. eliminate carbon emissions for the most part, reducing billions of people to living like the Amish
3. do retarded half measures that export pollution to China at best and get nowhere near enough (Hillary/Obama style)
4. hope magic new technologies become viable, solar frikkin roadways, windmills, etc. (Bernie supporter style)
>>69061444
regardless, shouldn't we be seeking a way to reverse it before we face catastrophic consequences?
>>69060245
Was the dust bowl also part of climate change?
>>69064530
>97% of scientists agree humans contribute to global warming
>The other 3% are oil shills
yeah i mean who needs to prove anything. just think a little
>>69064683
>>69064871
Well there's nothing we can do and very very few scientists man is the primary contributor to climate change. So, there's that.
>>69064871
>2016
>sill spewing the 97% myth
jesus fucking christ it never ends, does it? parrots will always be parrots
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2013/05/17/to-john-cook-it-isnt-hate-its-pity-pity-for-having-such-a-weak-argument-you-are-forced-to-fabricate-in-epic-proportions/
http://www.theguardian.com/environment/blog/2014/jun/06/97-consensus-global-warming
>>69063254
>Better agricultural yields
U wot m8? The slightest shift in global temperatures can make conditions undesirable for all sorts of plant life. Not to mention increased duration and frequency of drought killing plants and livestock, eventually destroying agriculture.
I dunno about the States, but here in Straya that is a terrifying thing to consider. Our agriculture is both one of our main exports and our main source of food, and farmers already have it rough considering the perpetual heat and drought here killing our cattle and withering our crops.
>>69065133
>using Australia as an example
Australia is a shithole, there's a reason the Dutch didn't bother to explore it when they first found your piece of shit island.
>>69065133
I think Straya is already really fucking hot. Think about the temperature US. Warmer temperatures mean less of a chance of icy winters which is the main thing that kills most crops.
>>69065056
>invest in solar, wind, hydro, and nuclear energy
>plant trees
There's 2 things we can do
>>69065103
http://skepticalscience.com/climate-contrarians-accidentally-confirm-97-percent-consensus.html
>hey i can link articles too
>>69065429
Parrots have evolved I see.
>>69060245
To be fair, we've got enough agriculture going to sustain us pretty late into climate change. We've also got like 30 years worth of food stored at any given time.
>>69060245
>no rise in global temperature since 1998 despite steady increase in co2 emmessions
>literally every single model and prediction proven false
>covered up email scandal revealing that the ncdc and other agencies have been actively falsifying scientific evidence for over 30 years
>dr David Evans able to demonstrate the the computer models used by said agencies are objectively flawed
>the phrase "global warming" change to climate change to distract people from falling temperatures worldwide
Sounds legit OP. I'm completely convinced
>>69061650
>there isn't a 1:1 mapping of resources to people, the book
Can't believe people think overpopulation is a problem.
>>69065414
Solar and wind are pure memes. Solar's fine if you want a quiet, convenient energy source, but nothing about the creation of solar cells or the maintenance of wind power is kind to the environment.
>>69065537
>>69065056
promoting algae growth is probably the most dramatic and practical method
>>69065322
Well it goes without saying things are very different between the US and Straya, considering you guys actually have cold winters.
Yeah, Australia is already really fucking hot, which is why further increasing temperatures would be disastrous for us and any country that depends on our food exports, not to mention just making life miserable.
>>69065258
Fuck off with the trolling, Ibrahim
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Owm25OHGglk
24:15 start time
Was posted in a previous thread. Please watch it all the way though before arguing for or against global warming.
if you want clean energy there is only neclear and hydro that is stable
everything else is just powder in the eyes
>>69065679
one of the rare good ideas (if you take this sort of thing seriously)
>>69065653
one of the many lib spokespeople who never actually state man's the primary cause of global warming, and considering we'd need to end civilization to make a dent in carbon emissions...
>it's the climate jew again
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCy_UOjEir0
>>69064347
>>69065414
Unfortunately, human activity is not the source of climate change. Most of the CO2 is coming from natural sources. "Green energy" sources cost so much to produce and to maintain that they are actually meaningfully worse for the environment than fossil fuels. If you want to spare the environment, you'd need to get started on some kind of worldwide terraforming which is currently well beyond our reach technologically.
The only thing we're really contributing is methane from animal husbandry, but even that's kind of tricky because we're already eating way less meat than we should be (Americans are doing fine at this though). Not polluting the oceans would also be a nice start since that's an amazing source of food we don't rely on enough.
Even though our energy production isn't having a noticeable impact on the environment, there is still a cleaner solution which is actually nuclear power. It's very safe and incredibly clean. We've also got the materials to keep it going using the current method for thousands of years.
>>69065623
>solar cells or the maintenance of wind power is kind to the environment
The great thing about manufacturing solar cells and wind turbines is that you don't need to be doing it constantly, unlike burning fossil fuels.
I'll use Straya as an example again: We are one of the sunniest, most spacious, hottest countries there is. The majority of our landmass is barely habitable desert that can be put to good use with solar panels and giant pinwheels. Not investing in solar and wind here is a waste of consistently available natural resources. Nuclear too, for that matter, as we supposedly have huge uranium reserves.
>>69060245
Ever looked at the natural cycles of earth? Or was the ice age created by cars and the warming that thawed it caused by factories?
>>69066251
Pretty sure we fish the fuck out of oceans and that's becoming a problem because those populations are dropping like crazy.
>methane
Okay a few hundred thousand cows shitting does not produce more methane than the CO2 millions of cars on the road produce every day
>>69060245
http://www.nasa.gov/content/goddard/antarctic-sea-ice-reaches-new-record-maximum/
>>69061444
For what? What is to gain from the left?
>>69065912
Carbon emission growth has stopped accelerating already. See the difference from this article: http://global.mongabay.com/news/bioenergy/2007/10/growth-in-carbon-emissions-accelerating.html
To this article: https://www.technologyreview.com/s/601055/global-carbon-dioxide-emissions-have-now-been-flat-for-two-years-running/
However, what we have unleashed by our dent is the enormous stores of permafrost and glacial methane. Even as we slow, halt, and reverse carbon emissions, we cannot stop this by any of these efforts. We will have to find a way to recapture the methane, if it's even possible.
>>69066373
>The great thing about manufacturing solar cells and wind turbines is that you don't need to be doing it constantly
If you want to use them as a long term solution and not a novelty, yes, you do.
>Not investing in solar and wind here is a waste of consistently available natural resources.
Using non renewable resources that utterly fucking destroy the environment to extract to get electricity because of a conspiracy theory too ridiculous for even Obama and DiCaprio to directly endorse is pants on head retarded.
>>69066556
You're overestimating the effects of CO2 and underestimating the effects and amounts of methane. The main thing with CO2 is that the environment is producing so much of its own that we don't even rate. Yeah, we're producing a lot, so that should give you an idea of just how outrageously high the Earth's natural output is.
The problem with fish is their ecosystems are degrading and people are usually only willing to eat "market fish" while totally ignoring "trash fish." The problem remains in the atmosphere and we currently have no solution because CO2 is not our issue, but methane is.
>>69066556
Methane doesn't just come from human activity.
>>69066941
>Carbon emission growth has stopped accelerating already.
Literally who the fuck cares? No, seriously. How great it is that we ONLY emit the additional carbon next year that we did this year. People haven't even begun to think seriously about what to do about curbing carbon emissions.
>Even as we slow, halt, and reverse carbon emissions
Hold on there buddy. Lets not pretend that an infinitesimal decrease in the amount of carbon emissions, should it be likely, is going to be remotely impressive or help the situation one iota. Because we're still barfing the combined footprint of somewhere between six to seven billion worth of people into the atmosphere, and maybe by the time our great grandchildren die, we might, mmmmight have kept it from going over the seven billion level. Which is... still... nothing.
Either current carbon emission levels are hunky dory or they're not. And we're never going to radically alter that level except for the worse.
>>69067722
You
fucking
retard
READ
MY
POST
AGAIN
Carbon does not matter. You fucking nitwit.
>>69066847
Currently fossil fuel companies control wealth related to energy (often right wing). New money green energy companies getting a foothold in the market and becoming the new "1%" is what the left has to gain. Old industry vs new, and we're being propogandized to do it.
>>69060245
The Free Market™ will fix it.
There's not enough evidence to prove we are having a significant effects. 1,000 years of shotty records for a 4 billion year old planet.....that's like someone telling you that you are on your way to cancer after talking to you for 10 minutes
>>69068072
Green energy really is not effective, they don't make much money from it. It's all about the moral high ground and coming up with new laws to enforce and new taxes to take and new departments to open.
