Anyone here lives in a country with mandatory military service? If yes, how it was? Did you learn anything useful?
I live in one, and in a few months I have to serve, but I'm suffering from bi polar disorder and some other mental issues, and I will try to avoid it at all costs, because I'm afraid I'll kill myself there. Besides, why should I serve a corrupt as fuck country that uses its army as servants of refugees?
Coward.
>>69833748
So, people in my country who serve in the military right now, and clean the shits of the refugees are more manly?
>>69833988
People who don't make stupid excuses to avoid the military are more manly. Fuck off
>>69834117
But mental disorders are real bro.
You probably don't understand tho, because you were never there.
It's not that bad really.
Yorgo, I have done it Turkey. 6 months, have fired 8 on target out of 11 with A3G3. I am sure if you get a report on your ISSUES they will give you a lighter job in army but you will regret not firing an infantry combat rifle. Nothing to be afraid of you will socialise with pals at least.
>>69833748
Fuck off coward. You are unmanly
>>69833555
I am a leaf
>>69833555
Human men were meant to kill and conquer. We're designed to lust for violence and destruction. There's a reason we love violent video games so damn much. Sign up for the military once and go into combat. You'll never want to leave.
>>69833748
>Singapore NS
>Not a massive waste of time and money for all involved
Calm down Lee
>>69834859
>this is what americans actually believe
I would rather play call of duty, than kill and conquer in the name of NATO and jewish bankers
>>69833555
I had a huge argument with my bulgarian friend over this. Why should anyone be forced to fight for a country they didn't even choose to be born in? Also from a pragmatic point conscripted soldiers are shit-tier. It is a major reason why the USA lost Vietnam because they forced people to fight and after doing a half assed job in the jungle they just went home to bitch about the war ending public support.
>>69833555
>If yes, how it was?
Mostly really boring.
>Did you learn anything useful?
Weapons training, leadership training, small unit tactics and a general idea how armies work. Should come handy when the civil war comes.
>bi polar disorder and some other mental issues
This would give you a free pass to skip the whole thing here.
>corrupt as fuck country that uses its army as servants of refugees
Yeah, fuck that. At this point I'd welcome Russian invaders as liberators.
[spoiler]t. res vänr[/spoiler]
>>69835257
Then you'll die alone when you kill yourself in your empty apartment at age 34, having achieved nothing in life. Struggle is all that gives meaning to life and you are actively avoiding struggle in its most pure form.
Never did it, now I'm almost 25. I wish I would have. I still might considering the direction the world is going. If my country asked me to serve, I would. I wouldn't avoid it.
An inconvenient truth: all the countries without compulsory military service are somehow cucked.
>>69833555
I've been in the US Marine Corps for 4 years. Easily considered one of the most life draining and miserable organizations among the logical bunch. The guys who stay in are use to bending over for the man.
That's besides the point though.
Embrace it as a time to grow as a man and generally as a person. For some people, a short time in the military can instill much needed discipline in their life and that shit can go a long way.
For Americans who do their 4 years and get out like myself. Going back to the civilian world reminds me how unorganized and unmotivated the average person is.
I can accomplish anything with the confidence I have as a Marine.
I know that might sound stupid but dude there's a whole life out there to live. Fucking get some.
>>69833555
Faggot you're no better than the refugees, both of you are running away
>>69834349
>G3
Glad I got to experience that badboy, the MG3 as well
>>69835588
Have you served in the US army? Did you do tours in the latest wars?
>>6983355
How were you labeled bi polar? Do you really suffer?
>>69833555
Grow a pair. Military is based.
>>69833555
Yeah Nah.
>>69833555
A lot harder than I thought. The cold nights spent marching trough rain meanwhile trying to not lose your mind. No food, no sleep, no warmth, no comfort and no idea of what the fuck is going to happen next. I´d say that 10% of the guys in my company turned into harcore alphas, even some of whom normally were cucks. You get fit too and you lose a lot of weight. One of the best times in my life.
>>69835257
You're a mentally defective faggot. In other words, you would have gotten culled in the past.
You are essentially useless.
Your genes shouldn't be passed on.
A failure of a human.
Just remember that.
You are human junk down to your very genetics.
>>69836081
please tell good marine why are civvies so unorganized?
>>69837298
>so butthurt because he has heard the truth
(Assuming you are a soldier yourself, otherwise go fuck off and you don't have the right to reply to this thread)
You are not even a human. You are a fucking puppet who kills and serves the same people who cuck your own country and Europe. How does it feel being a robot for the new world order? Would you kill your own mother if your superiors commanded you?
Try to reply to me with reasonable points, and not insults
protip: you can't because you are a fucking puppet
Fucking junk. People like you have turned this world into an endless cuckoldry
>>69837599
Could it be that at least they are not have to wake up 5 o'clock every morning and shave on daily basis.
Technically yes but it's not enforced. 5 hours every Saturday from february to november the year after you turn 18. Can't own a gun or work for the government if you don't do it. Women are allowed to volunteer.
Spent most of that time marching. Wasn't too tough until summer came along. We were given some rifles several times and taught how to clean the but they were never armed.
Learned how cucked our military is compared to the US's and got some serious respect for anyone willing to work as a soldier. Even if you don't participate in combat it's absolutely not an easy job.
>>69833555
Greeks are great, no sense of duty whatsoever.
Tax evasion there, draft evasion here, fuck Greece, am I right?
Shitty at times when you march in the rain for miles at end. When you need to wake up 6 in the morning every day to wash your room or when forced to wear the same muddy clothes for days on end.
But you're in good company and later in life you'll probably look back without regretting a second of your time served.
9.8/10 not sure if would do another year, but 1 year was a great time.
>>69837760
Wrong again, jonkboy.
I was a medic. No longer in, but I worked in the ER. Never killed anyone. Saved more than a few.
You don't seem to know much about how the military works. They don't just hand everyone a gun and release us into a village to kill the "innocent women and children."
Tfw wanted to join the army when I left school but my eyesight is too bad, can't even join the navy.
>Tfw never got to fight in Afghanistan
everyone has a story on why you cant serve. stop being a faggot. strap up the boots and go to work for a couple years.
>>69834654
i'm a leaf i joined the army why didn't you. Not joining the most redpilled group in Canada thats degenerate leafbro
>>69833555
I do and my opinion regarding that is basically this:
>>69835275
I never chose to be born in Finland and I wouldn't want to defend this country if something happened. In fact I'm looking forward to moving somewhere else, can't take the upcoming green storm and ISIS.
There are delusional people with power-fantasies like >>69835386 who rather believe in a civil war, but I'm not one of them. I just want to get the fuck out to somewhere like Asia to not have to wake up to a news report of more refugee rapes and terrorist attacks in shitrope every fucking day. I'm completely sick of this madness and I'm actually going to do something about it
Serve as quickly as you can.
When your just out of high school it's fuck it year here or there but once you go to university or get a job then it sucks mad ass to go sit in forest for a year.
And for example as 24yo with degree and job, ~steady life, etc it can be pretty dumb to take orders from 18yo boys and halt your entire life. But some say if you serve as even older closer to 30yo you just take it as a joke and one year holiday from the society.
Also choose your branch and unit carefully. Research what sounds cool, the tougher the training the better the menories and mainly it's easier to delude yourself that one year out of your young life was important training instead of just sitting at desk at HQ or washing trucks at motor pool.
Go full soldier and try to apply paratroopers, divers, recon, etc or choose something you can't do as civilian as tank crew, heavy weapons artillery, etc.
Navy and air force support staff are good as they are easier than army.
>>69835257
I could agree with this sentiment... But if i lived in switzerland id do my service without hesitation
>>69838156
Black ball master race reporting in
Many of my friends got white, i was lucky enough.
I wanted to kind of do it for my SMN t-shirt and cap
>>69841033
If I lived in a non corrupt and non cucked country, I'd give my life for it.
But now that its completely fucked up and cucked, why would I even bother wasting 1 year of my life serving it?
>>69841590
Because you have no choice.
>>69833555
Here you can avoid military service entirely if you pay, I'm my mother's only son so I had to pay less.
Call me a coward, but I don't feel like dying in the middle of the jungle, or to end up chained to a tree and tortured.
>>69841759
Do they use you poor conscript bastards in real combat?
>>69842413
>Meatshields
and drug cartels...
>>69841759
Like Columbia is such a shithole. No wonder FARC has been getting support for the last 50 years;
>>69841759
>feel like
don't worry bro, someone else will always feel like it for you so you'll never have to believe in anything but your feelings
exw ligo kairo ws politis.
misi thiteia se mavro stratopedo
kai misi athina me ta vysmata.
opou kai na sai palevetai, mi skas.
>>69833555
Unfortunately not, it would be alright in a country that isn't shit.
Then I wouldn't have to care about finding a job.
>>69842413
If you don't know anyone in the high ranks you are just a glorified meatshield.
>>69842738
Colombia. And yeah, but apparently we will have "peace" soon. My biggest fear is that the former guerrilla members will become our version of refugees.
>>69842766
Mostly poor stupid bastards who fall for the "Colombian heroes" commercials, or just can't do anything else.
>>69842799
kalos politis
den kserw re gamwto. den eimai kai poly kala. kai twra pou eimai politis den tin paleuw. den kserw ekei mesa pws tha einai
>>69842799
kai mou ekatse polemiko nautiko xwris na exw kan vusma. tha me gamisoun oloi oi vusmaties e?
>>69843191
na sai kala file,
den exei noima na sou pw pws einai, teleiws allos kosmos, mourla
alla ston prwto mina sinithizeis, kaneis toumpeki oti kai na sou poune kai perimeneis na perasoun oi mines
>>69843240
e nautiko rr??
min to skeutesai kan rr!
otan irtha athina imoun kai me nautes, ena sou lew
o pio vysmatias tou stratou ksiras pernaei xeirotera apo ton xeirotero nauti. alli antimetwpisi teleiws
>>69833555
>but I'm suffering from bi polar disorder and some other mental issues,
Congratulations, you're disqualified.
I have Bipolar and I'm on meds, so everything is working out. Have you actually gone to a doc, anon?
Greekbro.
Sign up and do your time.
I spent 10 years in the Marines. Would have spent more but I didn't get promoted in time. Whether you like the organization is irrelevant. Your service gives you a lot of intangible traits that make you a better citizen. A good worth ethic, punctuality, time management, organizational skills...you name it. Also stop being a pussy. "Muh Bipolar" bullshit needs to stop. Man the fuck up. Stop being defined by your illness and soldier on. Otherwise you might as well start picking out a well hung negro now for your wife to fuck.
Currently in Afghanistan on my 5th tour with US Army. Been in service for 14 years now. Removing kebabs with fire support is my primary job. Feels pretty fucking good.
At least this way, you'll at least pay some kind of denbt back to society, god forbid you pay any of your other denbts...
>>69843711
>Man the fuck up. Stop being defined by your illness and soldier on
This is exactly the sort of thing that drives these fuckers to kill themselves. They can't do it, that's why they're not allowed in. They're also relatively unreliable and in some cases can jeopardize other people's lives because of their condition.
These people don't belong in the military. It's why we don't let them in.
>>69843818
>tfw living the dream
>>69843818
RARE
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Have a crusaders pic
Mandatory military service should be instated in the US, it would literally put an end to all the faggotry going on here.
>>69843818
RaRe FlAg
>>69833555
My country have it.
They teach you how to shoot, forest survival, discipline and things like that.
Nothing really usefull to your day, except if a war start
>>69835606
They will let you in until you are 35, at 25 you would be going in at a great time.
>>69843818
>flag
kill lots of kebab for me
>>69833555
Havent done it yet, probably never will, but it's always a possibility. Personally, i wont do it. For too many generations has my family bled and died so that pablo can take my taxes.
The only reason i turned in my selective service application is because you cannot vote without swearing your allegiance to the union, and the union is American only in name.
>>69843818
Afghanistan is rough dude, I was happy to get the fuck out.
>>69843818
USA hasn't still pulled out of Afghanistan? When are they gonna do it?
>>69840957
>one year
how the hell is that logistically possible??
don't you guys spend time training?
Many job schoolings with the US military take nearly a year
yes we have
didn't go there :^)
>>69845126
Tell me about this US draft thing, I hear every male has to register as a possible draftee or get fined majorly but joining the military is purely optional.
You can't vote without registering to draft system?
>>69834260
Over come it.
This is the impetus for you to strengthen yourself.
You will only take a bad action if you allow yourself.
I mean, I put the rifle in my mouth every morning before work while I consider why not for about 4 years and still haven't pulled the trigger.
You can do it.
>>69835045
your wrong
>>69834260
You sound like a high school girl, using bullshit self diagnosed brain problems for an excuse.
>>69845788
Rotations, brometheus.
I don't know how the Hooahs do it but in the Marines (I can only speak of aviation) we would rotate. We would usually do it in groups of 3. One unit deployed, one unit in the chute ready to deploy, and one unit training. It's actually quite simple.
>>69845126
Someone explain this poem to me.
>>69845932
That's pretty much it. We have the selective service that men have to register for. We don't draft anyone but we keep all of the workings in place just in case the Ruskies come screaming through the Faulda Gap or equivalent crisis.
Basically it's a tertiary level of reserves (after our selective reserve and inactive reserve) that we can draw from if the shit thoroughly and dramatically hits the fan.
>>69833555
Libya had Mandatory Service before Gaddafi was killed, after you hit 18 men and women will need to train how to fight and use weapons effectively for i think a year and then they can go to college, this way he can raise a LITERAL national army that will rise in defense of the nation should anything ever happen, too bad he didnt see that it can be used against him.
one of the reasons why our civil war succeed fairly quickly was because everyone knew how to use their weapons, cant say the same about Syria tough
>>69840138
So you'll run away to Asia? They just had to deal with muzzies there too, are gonna pick another place faggot?
>>69845788
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conscription_in_Finland
Finnish conscription training has been told to be impressive by many foreign military leaders, even US.
It's pretty much perfected system as there is no room to squeeze service days out so everything is done with with the best quality we can. I would day that we train better troops in one year than other conscript countries train in two.
https://youtu.be/JeKPIRopsAQ
Marines attending winter warfare course
>>69838277
character building. The best memories of ones life. camaraderie.
>>69846033
but the individual man would only be in service for a year?
or your contract was longer but you moved onto different things?
on a side note:
I'm a mess /pol/, I always thought being a marine would be cool, since a small child, so as my teenage years came, and the bigger ones started asking me what I would do withmyself (I'm white so big expectations of course)
I would proudly say "I'm going to be a Marine!!". So I signed on with the recruiter on an enlisted aircrew contract and was in the DEP for my entire senior year, went to every function, led in physical scores, generally had a good time and couldn't wait to get out there.
Graduation came around and I shipped out, I arrived eager to show the world what I had, because I had spent countless hours getting ready for these three hellish months.
And then reality all came crashing in like a ton of bricks.
>I joined on a job I knew very little about
>I chose the most difficult branch for no good reason, the title of Marine was no guarantee of being worth the last happy years of my youth
>I never even spoke with any of the other branches to see if they would be right for me
>I would likely work longer and more difficult hours than chad at home making 7.25 an hour and I'd wind up earning less
>The Corps is turning ultra-PC and is loaded with spics
>We're at peace so I'll get stuck fucking around doing nothing and getting chewed out for nothing
So I told them I was suicidal so they would let me leave. Now I'm still stuck with the feeling that I would benefit greatly from serving but nervous I'll fuck my situation up again, I have no clue what I'm doing with myself in the next few years.
>>69846353
insightful
>>69846822
Dubs checked. I also admire the Finnish conscription program very greatly. Most pro-conscription Americans literally can't stop sucking Israel's zionist cock and see that the Finns have a much better draft program all around.
I hate Finns but you draft well.
>>69846041
you wouldn't understand
>>69846265
You're leaving out all the juicy parts like how only citizens have to sign for the draft, but if they don't they cant vote or receive any social services from the government. Mexican illegals receive money from our government, that's all i need to know about how fucked this country is.
>>69847086
It's conscription, every male does it. It's full training every day, no sitting around.
After your conscription service you are moved to reserve (about one million in Finland) and you attend in short training periods every few years depending on your role.
If you want to be a career soldier then you can try to get into officer school which takes five years or try to land a job to teach the conscripts at basic level with your reserve rank.
>>69847086
Stop being a bitch ass boot. I hate boots and I hate pussies.
Individual man? Yeah, year long deployment (or however you're cycled). If you don't have enough time on your contract then you transfer to a different unit. It would happen all the fucking time.
Same thing like when you get back. You don't come back all at once but in groups. When the first group gets back from your unit they get all the non-deployable guys (drug pops, legal holds, short timers, etc). When you get ready to go if you can't deploy you go to the ones coming back. Simple simon.
>>69833555
Greece? The compulsory military became a joke a there. You come out fatter than when you go in. It's 9 months just go and deal with it
>>69847319
I'm not saying it's right, i'm just putting the info out there. Most mexicans actaully don't get shit form the govt. Their anchor babies get the benefits and as a result the parents "control" it.
But don't come at me like that. I firmly believe that unless you have given 2 years of your life to better the country, you don't rate jack shit. Military service, civil service, whatever. Relatively based on Heinlein's Starship Troopers government.
>>69847651
I wasn't giving you shit, you just missed the part that makes it beyond anti constitutional, but entirely anti American.
>>69847213
You're aware Finns are in fact insane? Every last lad.
Have a drink with a Finn lad. It's an interesting experience.
All I'm saying.
>>69847799
Dubs also checked. My apologies. I reckon we're probably closer on our views then. I mistook your post as an attack on me. >>69847950
They are crazies. We had one in my unit when I was in. He'd work hard and all but he was a fucking psycho.
>>69847438
>Stop being a bitch ass boo
AYE AYE SIR
>>69834260
>>69833555
For every fear your anxiety you have there is room to grow. I have a few million dollars from working my ass off an telling my conscious to fuck off when it was "afraid". Find courage in the truth that if you work towards something then you will have success after every failure. Your brain is an untrained, stubborn horse. Kick it into submission and just do it. God bless
>>69840138
>I'm actually going to do something about it
(sing with me)
Brave Sir Onni ran away
Bravely ran away away
When danger reared its ugly head
He bravely turned his tail and fled
Yes, brave Sir Onni turned about
And gallantly he chickened out
Bravely taking to his feet
He beat a very brave retreat
Bravest of the brave, Sir Onni!
>>69833555
it not really mandatory, in the sense not eveyone have to do it, all males (yeah, vaginas are safe from this) of 18 years old must join a sort of lotery, it happens in every city of every state, you get registered in a military lotery, on the goverment plaza they anounce your name an take a white or black ball from a box, if they name you and a black ball is taken, you're free and not obliged to be in military service, on the contrary if the pull a white ball, you're screwed for a year, every weekend for 8 hours.
>>69843711
older brother and dad are both marines with my dad being in for 18 years. plan on joining myself when I graduate next semester
>>69833555
My time in the Army were some of the best times of my life, I loved going outfield where even a simple pack of of cheap instant noodles tasted like heaven. Finishing a tough course and working together with your buddies is the greatest feeling in the world.
The Greek and the OP are working together. The OP isn't looking for advice. Based Finbro gave the OP legit advice here
>>69835386
And the piece of shit insulted him here
>>69840138
What a fucking pussy you both are. Fuck you OP. If I could I would stomp as hard as I could on your throat. You don't want help. You want to be a woman. I hate everything you stand for. You are worse than niggers. You pseudointellectual scumbag. I bet you are atheist as well. You will get what you deserve one day.
>>69848698
Does Mexico even have a military?
>>69833555
>If yes, how it was?
It was funny. The paratroopers brigade here is the elite corps of the army so I've managed to get into some wild shit on favelas (with Maré being the worst, we were constantly harassed by AK-47s at night).
>Did you learn anything useful?
Discipline, ethics, survival knowledge, combat tatics, weapon knowledge, etc.
>>69849754
yes burgiebro, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexican_Armed_Forces, not the strongest but we are hanging there.
>>69847086
HANG IN THERE MAN!!!!!
I WAS JUST LIKE YOU! I served Honorably 2002-2007 USMC got out as a Sergeant. Three tours.
I wanted to kill myself in MOS school. The pain you are feeling right now, I know it! I know what it is too! You are becoming a MAN. A genuine man. Your coddled, safe, older soft self is dying in you. That is why you are in pain.
PLEASE hang in there, it gets better I swear to you on my honor. I am 32 now and I wouldn't do it again but everyday I am so thankful I did it.
The strongest bonds between humans are forged by sharing a common hardship together. You will make lifelong friends. Real friends too, not fairweather.
I really was like you. You are going to make it. Drop the suicide thing. You can make it. You will not regret it. AMA brother.
>>69847086
>loaded with spics
woah seriously, i never though my fellas would join your ranks willingly, nice. what's the ratio of spics fighting middle east?
