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Poland moves to ban Abortion, prompting protests in Warsaw
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http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/apr/03/warsaw-protest-against-proposed-abortion-ban

Thousands of people have attended a pro-choice rally outside parliament in Warsaw after the leader of Poland’s ruling party backed a call from Catholic bishops for a full ban on pregnancy terminations.

Poland already has one of the most restrictive abortion laws in Europe. Official statistics show only a few hundred abortions are performed every year, but pro-choice campaigners say underground abortions are common.

The debate around reproductive rights in Poland has been building up for months. The conservative Law and Justice (PiS) party, which came to power in October, plans to tighten regulations to bring them into line with the Catholic church’s teachings, infuriating liberals and women’s rights activists.

Chanting “keep your hands off the uterus” and “my body, my business,” the protesters waved wire coat-hangers, a crude pregnancy termination tool widely seen as a grim symbol of underground abortions.

“Even Iran’s abortion laws are more liberal than this proposal. That’s why we must protest,” said Marta Nowak, one of the protesters at the rally, which was organised via social media by the leftwing Together party.

“Catholics’ position on this is clear, and unchangeable. One needs to protect every person’s life from conception to natural death,” they said. “We ask the lawmakers and the government to initiate the legislation.“

The PiS leader, Jarosław Kaczyński, told reporters earlier this week that as a Catholic, he had to follow the bishops’ call. He said he would not force his party to vote for a ban in parliament, but was “convinced that a vast majority of the caucus, or perhaps all of it, will back the proposal”.

PiS plans to end state funding for in-vitro fertilization (IVF) and reinstate a prescription requirement for “morning after” emergency contraceptive pills.
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>>69822349
Women will move to another EU country for the abortion.

What's this party about, anyway? Being nationalist is one thing, but what's with all these BS laws?
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>>69822615
They are Catholic Traditionalist-Nationalists.
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polacks = religious scum
the niggers of europe
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we should ban abortion for white women, but keep it legal for all others
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>>69823018
In Poland that would be the de-facto result anyway.
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>>69822615
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>>69823018
Polish women are not happy about abortions. Even teen pregnancies are "taken care of", kids are raised and everybody's happy, but this shit is about retarded kids and situations when woman can die during pregnancy/birth. This nationalist in OP pic is religious fanatic, he thinks 100% of polish citizens MUST be catholic, the rest should be killed.
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>>69823300
Yeah, very funny picture, never saw it before. Something contribute to the topic, perhaps?
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i dont know what is worse the catholic scum or islam scum

the conservatis idiots or liberal faggots
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karachan.org
Twoje forum o kupie [s]bo wszystkie posty są gówno warte[/s]
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>>69823518
>he thinks 100% of polish citizens MUST be catholic, the rest should be killed
implying this is wrong
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>>69822349

Pathetic slav nigger scum.

> Muh relgion

> Muh nigger pope

> Muh slav culture

fuck you regressive monkey Euro trash
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If two consenting adults want to have children, fine. But if something was to happen to that relationship and the woman falls into deep regret and wants the child dead, should be murder.

If a woman was raped and impregnated against her will, upon getting the rapist charged, the woman should have the right to keep the life or abort it.

If a prostitute or a person promoting free sex, gets pregnant by mistake. That girl should have to pay a heavy fine for wanting to kill the child.

Agree or disagree on these three?
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>making something illegal will surely get rid of it
what is supply and demand?
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>>69823757
>If a woman was raped and impregnated against her will, upon getting the rapist charged, the woman should have the right to keep the life or abort it.
I disagree with this. Punish the rapist, don't punish the child.
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>>69822349
Abortion is the legalization of murder because its convenient for irresponsible women
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>>69823837
So the woman is forced to keep her illegitimate child and stuck to care for it on her own?
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>>69823926
yes
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>>69822349
That's pretty stupid, but still way better than having a left winger government
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>>69823926
No, she should have the option of keeping it or putting it for adoption. If she decides to keep it she should receive help since obviously the father is not around.
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The government must have shares in coat hangers.
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this thread is pope
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>>69823757
1. Agree
2. Rather agree
3. Agree, but only the girl has to pay that fine? Would have said both of them tbqh
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>>69823558
>Germany being a cuck again

yes very surprising indeed
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>>69822349
based
too bad that after strict conservative government always comes liberal one that takes a huge shit on all accomplishments of its predecessor.
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>>69824009
Having a child isn't completely safe, even with the best medical care. There are other issues with pregnancy, as well. I can understand why some want abortion banned, but not why someone would force a 12 year old to have a rape baby.
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>>69824199
stopping murder isn't strict
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>>69824216
12 year olds giving birth to rape babies is about 0.0000000000001% of abortion cases and you know it. You just have to find these extremes to justify it.

If the mother would die from having the baby then abortion should be an option.
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You'd also have men falsely accused of rape if a woman wants an abortion after consensual sex.
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>>69823888
Jesus Christ
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>>69824216
>force a 12 year old to have a rape baby.

yes because that's so realistic
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>>69824216
for fucks sake, when 12 years old kid is raped, there are morning after pills.
In case of casual sex, there are condoms.
I cannot find any reason to justify abortion. These protests are yet another group of retards trying to shit on new government reputation, because their leftist masters got removed from ruling the country.
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based poland.
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>>69824303
>If the mother would die from having the baby then abortion should be an option

This

No legislation on earth is possible if you take into account every lifeboat scenario you can dream up.
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>>69824456
that's if the kid comes forward before the pregnancy is obvious, it doesn't always work like that

glad there's no late term abortions though, that shit is fucked up brehs
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>>69824303
>If the mother would die from having the baby then abortion should be an option.

This literally never happens.
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>>69824456
In the Leftist mind 99% of sex is 40 year old mean raping little girls
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>>69824578
Then it would not be an issue.
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Pro-choice = baby killing
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>>69824456
>koryto meme
come on andrzej youre better than that
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>>69824303
I don't care if the odds are low. Not letting a girl have her life ruined by a rape baby justifies legal abortion to me.

Mothers can die during child birth, you can't forsee that with a sonogram.

And above all, women who would have their fetus aborted shouldn't be mothers. I don't see why people think these women suddenly become decent women and caring mothers because they popped out a baby that they don't want. Nigger crime fell massively about 15-20 years after abortion was legalized and all of their shit children were throw in the garbage.
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>>69822683
Sounds pretty good to me. Add some libertarianism and its perfect.
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existing law was great 2bh
But this is the future you choose.
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>>69824625
Abortion is an issue because women don't want to be inconvenienced for a few months because they want to continue to party and ride cock so they claim that a fetus is "just a clump of cells" when in reality it has a functioning nervous system at 2 months.
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die in fire moralfags
LIFE STARTS IN A MOMENT OF BIRTH
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>>69824572

Now every single trash you fuck can wind up impregnated and you will have to raise the little shit and pay gibs forever.

idiots.
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>>69824781
>muh human rights
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>>69824699
>And above all, women who would have their fetus aborted shouldn't be mothers

then put it up for adoption
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>>69824833
>the human right to kill humans
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>>69824699
Well it does not for me. Simple as that.

>Mothers can die during child birth, you can't forsee that with a sonogram.
That is a chance you take with anything.

>And above all, women who would have their fetus aborted shouldn't be mothers. I don't see why people think these women suddenly become decent women and caring mothers because they popped out a baby that they don't want.
It is called instinct.
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>>69823745
Dude.. not cool... totally not cool, better get some weed dude... not cool..
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>>69824793
Straciłem kolekcje papieżaków.
Masz może jakiegoś linka do kompilacji?
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Funniest thing is how everybody blames Kaczynski for everything. My bet is that he does not even poke a finger. There are just some crazy enough people in PiS to propose such BS law.


Besides, everybody knows what has to be done. There is just no political will on neither side nor in any party.
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>>69824826
Men should be able to give up financial custody just like women do.
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>>69824456
Morning after pills are considered abortion by people who want to ban abortion. And many young girls are either ashamed or afraid to come forward and say they were raped.

How many of you anti-abortion moralfags would force their daughter to have a nigger's rape baby?
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>>69823518
Outside of the fact that Catholics are pagans, that doesn't sound too bad actually.
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>>69823300
This is a little bit retarded mate. Woman should be able to abbort baby if she was raped or her life is in danger. Imagine she was raped by a nigger?
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>>69824971
>And many young girls are either ashamed or afraid to come forward and say they were raped

oh well I guess that means murders ok now
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>>69824897

> Pooland

> Weed
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>>69825075
morning after pill
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>>69824922
masz mojego ulubionego ale nie zdumpuje więcej bo jutro rano pszyra i wypierdalam
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>>69824971
>Morning after pills are considered abortion by people who want to ban abortion
Under this law you would just need a prescription for them.
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>>69824826
so controll your dick
you behave like woman
if you are old enough to fuck be responsible and wrap your snek
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>>69825124
morning after pill after rape? Are you stupid?
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>>69824572
If the kid does not go forward, she is making a call, and should stick to it. Choices have consequences, and saying "She was just a kid, she does not know she should've used pill" is not valid reason for abortion. We have orphanariums for really, really unwanted children.
Abortion should only be the case when mother's life is at stake, when it's one human life or another.
>>69824612
that contradicts with all those faggotry left is spreading
>>69824665
>Implying koryto meme is not true
M8, all criticism towards PiS by PO and/or Nowoczesna is not very valid because most of time they did exactly same shit, with added bonus of sucking EU cock and closing industry
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>>69824826
late term abortions means killing a fetus that could often be viable (after 22 weeks). That's just fucked up. You don't kill a viable baby because of muh shekels
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>>69823518
sounds like a top lad. Make him Pope.
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>>69824971
A lot of them i bet, the cryptocucks.
Also
>willingly jeopardizing yourself by giving birth to a doa baby because muh men in black robes said so
Come the fuck on
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>>69825088
Yes, completely justified if it's a rape baby.
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>>69824199
nah those gov now is giving 500zl for each kid/month

Older people after 50years of influence of CCCP operate like this;

-My money = money on my bank acc after taxes
-Their money = money that gov has

Now gov is giving them (oh irony) 500pln


Its beginning on natinalist traditionalism catholic socialism and it will last 1000 years.
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>>69825184
ciekawe jak bys spiewal jakby tobie brzuchol urósł moralpizdo
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abortion is fine if the kid would come out retarded due to birth defects

also in case of rape or life-threatening danger to mother

everything else, no. dont want baby, dont get knocked up.
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>>69825089
>Canada

>Weedman without weed

ya dun goofed
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>>69822944
I wish i would have the possibility to kill every singe self hating polack on the planet.
They are worse than niggers.
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>>69825212
they put them in rape kits for a reason, dumbass

>>69825280
What if it is 2 months in and it has a functioning nervous system? What about 2 months after birth then?

If someone is walking down the street and you find out he's a rape babby do you get to kill him?
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>>69825388
normalnie, wychowalbym dzieciaka a nie jebal zasyfione szmaty za miske zupy.
W ogole spierdalaj do spania bo ojciec ci dojebie
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>>69825216
I'm talking about rape. If your 12 year old niece gets raped by a nigger and says nothing and gets pregnant from it you'll think "oh well she made her choice" and just accept it?
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karaczanki uprasza się o wypierdalanie z tego fredu
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>>69825531
>If someone is walking down the street and you find out he's a rape babby do you get to kill him?
I like that law. Man, population of Berlin would fucking DROP
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>>69822349
Good. Baby steps in order to eliminate the PC culture and its degeneracy. Fucking criminals. Abortion should be an option in 2 cases - possible death situation of the host or rape, both in early stages.

God fucking damn it, I despise leftists with all my soul. God speed Poland, remove the degeneracy one step at a time.
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>>69825643
Skocz mi cwelu, polska to guwno xD
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>>69825531
Retarded fucking argument.
I would be fine with a cutoff of 5 months or whatever reasonable date the baby can be kept alive with modern medicine.

Yes, sure, I'm talking about murdering every single person who I learn is a rape baby. That's what I'm saying. Thank you for clarifying that and once and for all dispelling the fiction of the retared ameriburger meme.
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>>69825708
>implying there are many Germans left in Berlin
kek
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>>69825629
the solution is to not have niggers in your society (or anywhere in the world)
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>>69825564
>wychowalbym dzieciaka
płakałbys w poduszke spierdolino
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>>69822944

There are an odd number of polish atheists on here, What is it like to be a fedora in Poland?
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>>69825732
Get the fuck off my board, statist. The state should not have the power to force someone to give of themselves biologically to another entity, that's fucking sick.
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>>69825629
No, in that case she should either use morning after pill, or give birth and give kid to orphanarium.
Killing unborn children with mechanical contraptions serves no purpose.
Also we should prevent nigger rapes by not allowing nignogs in.
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God bless you, Poland!

Keep not giving a fuck. One day they will understand.
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>>69825861
It has a functioning nervous system at 2 months

Anything beyond that is barbaric.
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Based Poland. What's the current law and how does the new one differ?
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>>69825861
I do actually know rape babbies btw and they enjoy being alive
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>>69825868
totally agree m8, but if that happened (the rape), I don't think you'd be happy about there being no choice but to keep the niglet
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Why don't they just restrict it to one abortion every 5 years or so and if you try to do more during that time period it's a fine and illegal?
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Frankly senpai I think no one should abort. Special circumstances aside, I think any adult who puts a penis in a vagina should be aware that maybe, just maybe a baby will result from the event, and that putting the penis in the vagina at all is something you do with the full understanding that no matter how hard you try to prevent it it could happen. If you can't deal with the consequences then don't put the penis in the vagina. So yeah I wish abortion didn't happen and that people just stopped being fucking retards, but I also know that since people are fucking retards if you ban abortion they're just going to shove some hook in their vagina or some shit, and if that's how it's gonna be then I reluctantly support it being legal, because if they're gonna do it anyway then it's better if they get the needed medical care for it.

Also in cases of particular circumstances like children who are the result of rape or that are just unwanted for whatever reason, you know you could just give the child up for adoption and pretend you never had him.
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>>69825868
Whites also rape, not as often as blacks, but whites still rape
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>the self-hating poles in this thread
Move to Sweden if you hate nationalism and traditionalism so much, nu-commie cucks.
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>>69825868
holly shit
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>>69825883
There's a lot of atheists in Poland among young people, don't believe the memes. Doesn't mean they can't be conservatives too though.
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>>69825931
I'm basing this on what I would want if it were my daughter raped by the worst case retarded crackhead nigger. I want that abomination out of her fucking womb.
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>>69825912
fair enough
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>>69825840
Taki jest wygląd twój
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>>69825388
Ciesz się bo by cię matka wyskrobała mały kurwiu xd
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>>69825931
The state forcing a woman to support a parasitic life is barbaric, anon.
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>>69824723
But they're socialists (just like the previous liberal party)... that's the catch .
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>>69826002
>no choice but to keep
There is always a choice. Give nigkid to monastery, give nigkid to orphanarium, sell nigkid to some western idiots who want it.
Why noone agrees that morning after pill is solution to rape child problem?
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>>69822615
This. Local abortion ban will not work.
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>>69825976
Who gives a shit? Niggers are happy to be alive when they're raping white girls.
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>>69822349
The only places where abortions is a huge political issue is poor shitholes and ultra religious countries. Poland is both, that's why millions of poles has left Poland since 2004
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>>69826287
No, it is not. It is barbaric to allow the woman to kill the child.
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>>69822349
Poland is fuckin based
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>>69826195
Ból dupy polskiego smiecia xD
Zauważ jak napisałem polskiego, użyłem małej litery symbolizując w ten sposób skurwienie narodu złodzieji i kurew jakim są polacy
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>>69826320
This. The kid didn't rape anyone, it doesn't deserve to be punished.
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Capitalism cannot exist without christianity, because capitalism in itself is not an ideology. Atheist capitalism leads to absolute decay and degeneracy. Christian capitalism is what build the west.
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>>69826287
parasites can't be part of the same species, dumb fuck

also they have a functioning nervous system at 2 months so inb4
>muh clump of cells

>>69826341
they're white
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>>69826287
less barbaric than murdering infants burgerbro
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>>69825906
People need to learn and think before making a decision of this caliber - pregnancy. No one gives a fuck because they can kill the fetus in an instant. But maybe, if it was impossible (with the exceptions mentioned above) they would think twice before fucking around like retards, not using protection, choosing a possible partner and so on and so forth.

I do not see any situation in which this would be a problem. Not to mention all benefits that would come from this - from a family structure level up to the value of a newborn.
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>>69823837
No rape baby should be born, ever.
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>>69826565
Why?
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>>69826348
Shut up, slut.
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>>69826460
The reason why genes associated with increased violence, aggression and sex crimes were bred out of whites and asians is that the rapists didn't pass on their genes. Aborting rape babies is cleaning up the gene pool.
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>>69826565
I'm taking your edge to next level
No baby should be born, ever
>>69826459
Self-hate or pretending to be retarded?
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>>69826602
It's not kind to the child.
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>>69826127
>>69826517
Jesus fuck what is the point of niggers
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polaks worms of europe
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>>69826708
Why? It is better to exist than to not exist in most cases.
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>>69826222
jakos by mnie to nie ruszyło zważywszy na to że byłbym wtedy tylko małym kawałkiem mięsa
>UUU MOGŁES SIE NIGDY NIE URODZIC CO BY WTEDY BYŁO?
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>>69826459
Hehe bo bolaczki łapio ból dupska a ja się smieje
Ale jak to mam szlaban na kompa mame
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>>69826320
It's just a practical problem, it only works if it's taken within like 72 hours. Not all rape victims do anything within that time.

Otherwise I agree. Also I don't see why pro-abortion idiots think you need 5-6 months to decide if you're gonna abort or not. Two of their arguments are actually that a) some don't realise they're pregnant before like 5 months (how fat do you have to be??) or b) they're poor and need to wait to save money to get an abortion. It's crazy, they'll kill a baby that could live on its own just because "lol didn't realise I was pregnant" or "oh no money to abort this month, I'll wait a few more months :DDD".
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>>69826719
Deserving?
It's about the best possibilities for a healthy child.

>>69826764
It barely exist if you abort it as soon as possible.
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>>69826517
I'm saying it's irrelevant that they're happy.
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>>69826565
Chances are good one of your ancestors raped another one so I'm guessing you'll be ending yourself soon to correct this mistake?
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>>69822349
POLAND = BASED

GOD BLESS YOU POLAND
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I think its a good thing that they banned

abortions.Poles aren't reproducing as much ,

and if the pregnancy is unwanted you can

always give the kid up for adoption,this one is

a lesser of the two evils in my opinion.
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>>69826794
Wmawiaj tak sobie dalej, to że polacy to podludzie wie każdy, nawet umysłowo opóźnione burgery z /pol/, każdy gardzi tą parszywą nacją
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>>69826430
>>69826540
How can you call yourself a conservative when you believe that the government has the power to strap a woman down and force her to give of her blood and nutrition, her essential biology, to another entity? What a disgusting violation of her individual autonomy.
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>>69826435
You haven't seen anything yet.
If Poland gets a Kukiz+Korwin parliament coalition in the future and Kowalski as president... THEN shit would get really interesting.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-uJ7jVlnKlE
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>>69826033

>Why don't they just restrict it to one murder every 5 years or so and if you try to do more during that time period it's a fine and illegal?
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>>69826880
What kind of stupid ass argument is that?

My fellow black man, there is nothing you can do about the past.
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>>69826348
Most poles came to Western Europe because of their high unemployment and higher wages.
You would probably have done the same thing
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>>69826941
To czemu sie jeszcze nie zabiłes smieciu?
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>>69826964
I'm not a Liberal-Conservative of the American tradition.

>>69826868
You miss the point, why do you get to decide if that child has a right to life or not?
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>>69824971
>How many of you anti-abortion moralfags would force their daughter to have a nigger's rape baby

The baby didn't rape anyone. Just birth & abandon it.
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>>69826802
>not all rape victims do anything within that time
That is the real issue. Either they are too scared to do it, and they should not be, or they are ignorant, and they should not be that either

Ok I'm out gonna go to work in few hours
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Two wrongs don't make a right

Yes rape is obviously evil but a baby comes from this…same thing with unwanted pregnancies

Adoption should be encouraged

No one should have the right to kill the unborn who have done nothing wrong

Life begins at conception

Abortion is legalized baby murder
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>>69827096
And reward the nigger with progeny.
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>>69827010
I don't give a fuck. I'm trying to find some middle ground.
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>>69827077
Bo moim przeznaczeniem jest edukować normalnych ludzi, zwłaszcza zza granicy, o niebezpieczeństwie wynikającym z bratania się z ludzkimi odchodami takimi jak polskie wieprze.
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>>69827096
Might as well fucking kill it
Such great shot at life do the orphans get.
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>>69823386
DELET THIS
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>>69827217
>Someone actually just stood and filmed that rather than stopping it
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>>69826941
Gardzą tylko wami robakami z UK czy skąd ty tam shitpostujesz anonku spierdonku. Ssij lachę Polskiego pana robaku xD
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>>69827213
If death is so great why don't you kill yourself?
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>>69827094
>why do you get to decide if that child has a right to life or not?

First thing. It's unwanted fetus. I'm not talking about aborting 3-4 months in.

Any women who have been raped should be forced to take those morning after pills.
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>>69827207
>Wierzy w przeznaczenie
Jebana ciota, nie potrafi sobie życia poukładać i pierdoli farmazony
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>>69827335
You first, cuckster
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>>69826964
>when you believe that the government has the power to strap a woman down and force her to give of her blood and nutrition, her essential biology, to another entity?
No one put a gun on her head and told her to open her legs and get fucked and get cream-pied Faggot.

The moment she puts out like a whore without a second thought she made her choice and, whoop-de-fucking-doo she has to bear responsibility for her choices.
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>>69827023
> there is nothing you can do about the past.

Specially when it's your father who was the rapist and not you. Guilt is not inheritable.
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Government should have a program that adopted babies become super soldiers

Trained from a young age to work either for the government (intelligence service), police or as a soldier

Government gives you the best benefits so you never have to worry about food, health, shelter, education etc
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Abortions are honestly a non-issue.

In terms of low fertility rates and the sexual revolution/feminism/overall degeneracy of western culture, birth control has done far more damage.

Most (white) women do not get abortions. But significant proportions use birth control, which allow them to not have children. And without the risk of having children, there's little incentive to keep them from whoring it up and sleeping with as many men as possible. You can see how this spirals down to where we are today.

If anything, I'd ideally like to see birth control banned and abortion kept legal. Abortions are mostly done by shitty minorities who are too fucking dumb to use preventive measures in the first place.
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>>69827217
What difference does it make if it's human? It can't live without the mother, and since you can't force her to give her blood to it, it's going to die. There's no reasonable person who wants this to be a criminal act.
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How is this even allowed on the free world? This depressions is sickening. Abortion is a human right, it is a liberty issue and whether the baby is alive or not doesn't matter because it is about freedom.
Fuck all religious people, I honestly wish you weren't allowed to vote
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>>69827207
Twoim przeznaczeniem jest sranie z dupy do ryja nawet mi cie kurwo nie żal podczłowieku z kabaka xD
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>>69822349
Female voting rights next pls.
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>>69827379
>Any women who have been raped should be forced to take those morning after pills.
Why?

>First thing. It's unwanted fetus
So?

You are dodging the issue, which is whether a viable foetus has a right to life? A rape foetus is not different to an non-rape foetus.
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>>69827324
Niggers gon nig
its an old video, quite heart breaking.
White girl wants to be nice and friendly, niggers nig nog her with the support of older niggers proving they aren't human.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9vBHAyVmWQ
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>>69827404
Przeznaczenie to tylko figura retoryczna, ale nie spodziewałby się że polski odpad jak ty to zrozumie.
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>>69822349
This is based. Those birth rates need to go up or else they'll be flooded with migrants.

I'm actually assuming this is why Poland's government has promoted Catholicism. Clever bastards.
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>>69827568
Fucking niggers.

>>69827497
A child's right to life comes first.
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>>69827188
>Ok I'm out gonna go to work in few hours

Fly to Africa and plant it back into their native habitat + water down nigger genes overall.
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>>69827721
No it does not. The freedom of a person over their body comes first.
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>>69827852
Their body ends where the baby's begins. They are two separate individuals and a woman has no right to kill another individual based on her own convenience.
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>>69827721
If you believe this, then you don't believe in biological autonomy of individuals and the state can come and take whatever it wants from you. They can take whatever they want to make someone else live.
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>>69827960
see
>>69827936
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>>69827852
>>69827960

>a baby doesn't have a body

typical leftist

>hurr it doesn't have a nervous system my womens' studies teacher told me so
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>>69827898
Someone will strap you down and take your blood or a piece of your liver or a kidney and give it to someone else and say, "What are you complaining about? You have the power to keep someone alive and if you don't, it's murder!" All those people on the transplant list, anon, you're killing them. You should be in jail desu baka senpai
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>>69827936
Even if childbirth would result in Maternal death ?
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>>69827936
It can't live on its own, therefore it dies. Is that murder?
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>>69828175
I already said that is a reasonable exception since it is likely you would lose both individuals and then it simply becomes utilitarian.
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CHUJ GÓWNO Xddd
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>>69828121
I don't understand how this is a response to my comment.
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>>69828259
Yes.
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>>69828358
Then if someone needs a kidney and you're a match, then you can be forced to donate, and if you don't, that's murder.
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>>69827556
>which is whether a viable foetus has a right to life?

Right to life?
It's decided if the women aborts it or not.
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>>69828140
>Voluntarily engage in procreation
>hurr this is the same as being near a car accident

false analogy
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>>69827445
Still not the best for the baby.
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>>69828353
>>69828478
Because your retarded libertarian mind can't figure out why two completely different scenarios are in fact very different.
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>>69828486
No, because she does not have the right to end another individual's life.

>>69828478
I actually have donated a Kidney to my brother.
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>>69827471
Nevermind, i'm wrong:>>69827717

What's the possibility that we could ever outlaw birth control though? Looking at that graph makes me think we're fucked no matter what.
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God bless you Poland!

Do you accept Belgian refugees?
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>>69828522
Absolutely not, memester. If you have the power to stop someone from dying and you refuse and that person dies, you should be charged with murder. Either you believe in bodily autonomy or you don't.
>>69828640
You too believe our bodies are under the control of the state. This is an anti-freedom position, anon. Shame on you.
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>>69828809
Replied to the same person.
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>>69822349
Terrible idea

Life is already protected in Poland

There's still this conflict going on around the Constitutional Court, why start a second conflict?

They should delay this shit for as long as possible

Not to mention that Poles are not some puritans and don't want the government to go too far
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>>69828809
>If you have the power to stop someone from dying

If you put someone in a life threatening situation you are responsible and will probably get charged with something

>You too believe our bodies are under the control of the state

Yeah if you murder someone you go to jail imagine that

also
>libertarians
>calling anyone else a meme

kek
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>>69822349
Abortion wouldn't have been an issue at all if people understood that sex is naturally supposed to create a new human being.
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>>69828175
Maternal death, rape. No other reason why it should be allowed. We don't allow it for men either, they get to do slave labour for 18+ years no questions asked.

"But dooooon't have seeeex!" not an argument, especially since you can say the same to women.
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>>69829148
The 1968 cultural revolution made people think that sex was just something people do for pleasure and everything else is a side effect.
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>>69823745
at least we're doing something to delay white genocide while you're embracing it with open arms, by population displacement with blacks, asians and muslims and abortions of white kids.
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>>69829256
This

The 1968 cultural revolution was actually a revolution against biology.
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>>69829462
I respect it dude. Don't listen to him, homogeneity is priceless. When you lose it it's almost irreversible.
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>>69829592
That Vice video about how Poland is so evil for being white and christian is hilarious

the SJW reporter got so triggered.
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>>69829148
>>69829256
hard /pol/ welcome to
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>>69829726
I don't understand what you are trying to say.
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>>69829697
link it famalam
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>>69829697
can you provide link dear friend?
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>>69822349
How can Poland be so based? How did they avoid the cuckening of Europe?
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>>69829256
True, the sexual revolution led to this
>>69829726
Welcome to what? Poland? Catholicism?
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>>69830021
>How did they avoid the cuckening of Europe?
By being an irrelevant shithole nobody cares about.
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>>69825388
a co to gumki nie było? prochów się nie wzieło?

"dzisiaj jest dzień bezpieczny!", "wyciągnę zanim skończę!", "za dobrze się czuję bez gumy!", "nic się nie stanie!"

prawo uniwesalne. akcja > reakcja.

za własną głupotę się płaci.
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Z każdym lewackim bólem dupy prawica staje się mocniejsza.
I weselsza.
Chociaż na PIS nie głosowałem, to ten ból dupy lewaków, gimboateisów i innych podludzi jest satysfakcjonujący
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>>69830021
I think it's because they've been fucked over so hard by Russia and Germany, so they have a distrust for both which promotes secularism and nationalism.

Add on top of this that they aren't exactly fat and lazy due to prosperity, and are hardened from struggle.

Another thing is religion and cultural shit was basically oppressed under communism, and experiencing all of that leftist shit redpilled them on it.

That's my analysis at least.
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Mfw Saudi Arabia is more liberal than pol
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>>69830668
>secularism
sovereignty*
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>>69830417
welcome to fucking middle ages
>muh human rights
>sex is only for reproduction
>ban abortion, ban pills, ban condoms whatever XD


>a wild unintended pregnancy appears
>/pol/ face
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>>69830014
>>69829936
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PnC-zSdMSRo
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>>69830836
>ban pills, ban condoms whatever XD

literally no one has said this

If anything I want free morning after/birth control pills for all of Africa.
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>>69830678
Saudis are barbarians, of course they like killing children.
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>>69830836
slippery slope
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>>69830417
>Pooland
>sexual revolution
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>>69825069
so are the protestants.

catholics are the beast of the sea. protestants are the beast of the land, and the image of the beast that speaks in its name.

both controlled by the synagogue of satan, judaism, with satan, yahweh/allah at the helm.

muslims are the locusts that came out of the pit.

the abrahamic trio of judaism, yahwic judeo-christianity and islam are the 3 beasts like frogs that came out of the pit.

gnosticism is the only true christianity, and the gnostic god is the true father of jesus, and a god of eternal love for all his creation, not one of servitude.

even constantine was gnostic before jews subverted the council of nicaea and forced the old testament interpretation to be canon.
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>>69830475
pierdolona polska kurwo zapytałem jak ty bys spiewał jakby ci locha zaciążyła a by nie chciała
powiem ci, poryczałbys sie
i pochwale się tobie że już odkładam $ na wazektomie i będziesz miał pewnosć że twoja matka nie zaciąży

a aborcja sama w sobie nie jest problemem tylko takie pokuriweńce jak wy go tworzycie, im bardziej będziecie zabraniać tym bardziej wieszaki druciane pójdą w ruch.
dam ci dobry przykład - marycha

jestescie bardziej oderwani od rzeczywistosci niż wykopki
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>people ITT argue this will combat bad demographics
>pis wants to end state funding of in vitro

full retard. I don't know how anyone can actually support this shit. this act of law is crap and will result in a fuckton of kids in orphanages, child homicides and broken lives
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>>69831464
jeśliby zaszła pomimo ochrony, to wpierw test dna, bo pewnie próbuje złapać na bachora.
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>>69831464
ty tępa ludzka pizdo
może zalegalizuj kradzieże od razu bo w koncu ludzie dalej kradną czyli prawa hehe nic nie pomogly, co?
żydzie ludzkie jest wartoscią sama w sobie i nie mozna go relatywizowac i dzielic ludzi na te zdrowe, i te chore ktore trzeba zajebac.
w cos takiego wierzyl pewien austriacki malarz ale to sie dobrze nie skonczylo.
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>>69832333
życie ludzkie tak ale nie zapominaj że polacy to nie ludzie tylko karaluchy, zamordować polaczka to jak kupić bezdomnemu dziecku nowe buty
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>>69830021
By being too poor for refugees to want to go to, and compensation for their historical non-significance; also the fact that they're our most important proxy in Europe

We want to harness their anti-Russian sentiment and use them to create the Intermarium, choking Russia to death while we're busy destroying the last vestiges of whiteness in Western Europe and wiping out their national borders to make the region easier to control

Once the Russians are gone for good and Poland is rich and prosperous, then we'll pressure them and and the rest of Eastern Europe into getting cucked and destroy them too so that no one will be able to stand in the way of our global hegemony

The whole world will be divided and conquered and the former Warsaw Pact will help us by wiping out Russia, while we use Japan, South Korea, Vietnam, and the Philippines to do the same to China
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>>69831464
>hurr durr jak byś miał gówniaka to byś ryczał wykopku
Róznica pomiędzy nami ludźmi a wami karaluchami jest taka że po pierwsze ruchamy a po drugie ruchamy odpowiedzialnie ze świadomością możliwości pojawienia się gówniaka. Jak podludzie nie wiedzą jak into odpowiedzialność to niech zostaną przy waleniu konia. Ale nie martw się anonku ty nigdy nie będziesz miał takich dylematów xD
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>>69832505
pretty much this

someone has been paying attention to international jewry and geopolitics
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>>69832488
Do siebie nie równaj podludziu
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>>69832748
co ten karaluch pierdoli do mnie w ogóle?
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>>69830875
Why can't leftists just report honestly? He kept talking to the camera and give his personal opinions on it, and trying to frame things worse than they were.
To me that nationalism was a beautiful thing that brings their people together and reminds the EU that they're not going to be good goys.
Add on to that, that no one was hurt during that huge march.

The Nazi salutes at the soccer game were sort of weird though, I would've assumed poles had stigma around that.
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>>69822349
Poland sounds pretty based 2bh
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>>69832333
życie zaczyna się od urodzenia
>>69832634
pęknie ci guma to zobaczymy smieciu pierdolony
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>>69827432
basically this. this is the universal law. for every action there is an equal reaction, and there are consequences of actions.

so if you fuck around irresponsibly, you have to bear the consequences of kids.

if you try to go around the consequences and kill the kid, you invoke the universal law and build up 'bad karma' that will hit you like a truck later down the road.
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BOLAND IS THE BEZD BECOUSE JON PAUL SECOND WAS POLACK ;DDDDD
POLAND FIST TO FIGHT!!!!!
A WYKOP TO NASZ PAN
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>>69833156
FORTI TU UAN
SPIRYTUS OF SPARTAN GLORY :DDDDD
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>>69832505
> implying anyone has to do anything to turn russia and china to shit
These countries are totally fine doing that without any external help
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>>69823745
Go freebase some syrup, flannel fucker.
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>>69832940
Jak się kupuje kurwexy za złoty pidzisiąt sztuka to tak się później kończy biedaku jebany xD
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>>69825299
>actually encouraging people to have kids and banning offing your own baby because you want to keep partying

wow what a crazy Idea, its almost like having a population of cucked white people with a death spiral reproduction rate of 1.1, is kind of a big problem and its worth trying to fix without mass third world immigration

man if I didn't mind living in a third wold country, I would totally move to Poland

Canada is still 85% percent white unlike the US, so if we started fucking having kids we might not be too fucked
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>>69834188
>so if we started fucking having kids we might not be too fucked
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