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/pol/, why do you hate atheists? If people actually adhered to the teachings of Jesus, Europe would have been taken over by Islam a long time ago, not to mention that many Christian are loons.

Right-wing atheism is the only thing that will save western civilization.
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Stop the divide and conquer threads you dirty kike. Christians and atheists have the same goals we need to unite for the sake of the West.
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>>69687499
Don't worry Christians, we know who the real enemy is here.
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>>69687384
Your identified.
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>>69687384
because they are as dogmatic as christians and dont follow scientific method
no data supports that god exists
and no data supports that god doesnt exist
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>>69687384
>Right-wing atheism is the only thing that will save western civilization.

I cannot argue with this.

Science is the fucking don.
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>christian extremist
Wouldn't that be the nicest person ever?isnt extremist someone follows their holy book word by word?
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Most liberals are atheist cucks. UK and Sweden have some of the highest proportions of atheism in Europe and yet their the most cucked.

Poland on the other hand has a high percentage of Christians and they're not cucked.

Christianity and nationalism go hand in hand a lot of the time. Yes their are cuck Christians but it's easier to organise under a religion than it is to organise under a non-belief.

Does that mean that all atheists are cucks? Of course not. Let's get together instead of dividing each other. We need to unite. We nationalists and right wingers all want the same thing. Whether you are atheist, Christian or pagan it doesn't matter. Let's focus on the enemy instead. Because we are not enemies.
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>>69687384
>Dawkins
>extremist
what
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>>69687682
>>69687794
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>>69687499
>same goals
atheists goals are to get rid of Christianity and make way for satanism
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>>69687384
An atheist extremist would look more like Chairman Mao, idiot.
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>>69687945
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qw6GKsthZ6U
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>>69687945
Well those are liberal atheists. Most of the atheists on here are nationalists. So they're not all the same.
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>>69687384
humans are not largely not rational creatures.
religion is needed to control them.

a godless society is either a very, very small society or one of chaos.
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>>69687384
Nice cherry picked photo for the atheist, faggot.
Next time, try using a criminal.
There are many.
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>>69687384


I can only speak for myself here, but "Atheism" has morphed into more than just not believing in God. It is now a leftist, SJW ridden, anti-Christian group. These new Atheists refuse to attack the religion that causes 99% of the worlds terrorism. The OG Atheists like Dawkins, Sam Harris, and Hitchens were driven out of the movement long ago in favor of the cucks that only criticize Christians.

I am an Atheist in the traditional sense, but I refuse to identify myself with these bastards. I now call myself a "Secular-Christian", similar to how atheist Jews call themselves secular Jews. It rustles the new-Atheist jimmies real good.
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Put a dick in it.
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>>69688058
A criminal who uses his lack of religion as a cause for said crime? Don't be that guy who uses Stalin an an example.
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>>69687384
Dylan Roof was an Athiest Extremist.

Sorry, but it's 100% fucking true, he attacked Christian African-Americans for being Christian African-Americans
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Atheism just creates a cultural vacuum. You get rid of Cheistianity and something else will replace it. In the case of the West it will be Islam.

Choose fucking wisely.
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>>69687384
Religion has it's place.
Dumb people need something to explain the hard stuff in life with.
Secular society with freedom of religion is the optimal solution.
>>69688103
Yeah yeah everyone else is the bad guy and you fight for the good guys, thanks for the input.
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Atheists dont offer a belief system that can replace christianity. Atheists haven't integrated the role of father/wife/family/community into their system. Many also purport to be logical then deny differences between races.
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>>69688103
I don't think that the sjw-leftist wave even considers their self atheists. They seem MUCH more like the "spiritual but not religious" box checked on their dating website.

Even 5 years ago when I attended a Secular Club meeting in undergrad, they seemed like they were standing up to everything. They were a separate group from the shitlord-spouting masses.
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>>69687945
lol.
Estonians don't give a crap about religion, especially the new generation... and still no - we don't hate christianity, we still respect it because we live in a christian community
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>>69687499
I second that motion. The entire world sorely needs to unite against Islam and utterly erase it from the face of the earth.
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>>69687830

I hope you;'re joking. There's no evidence to support that there isn't an indestructible teapot at the centre of the universe either, but I think we can agree it'd be retarded to believe that it exists.

>>69687880

>UK and Sweden have some of the highest proportions of atheism in Europe and yet their the most cucked.

China and Japan have high percentages of atheists, neither country is cucked.
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>>69687384
Right wing atheist giving my energy
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>>69688103

Atheism is just a lack of belief in god(s). It doesn't matter how much other bullshit is tacked on - if you don't believe in god then you're an atheist.

The concept of an "atheist-christian" is fucking stupid. A literal contradiction.
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>>69687682

Igaf about Islam. I've never even seen a Muslim over here.

Christianity, on the other side, opresses thousands of people in my country. Guess what is the "real enemy"?
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>>69687915

American religious nuts and PC leftists genuinely call him that. It's really funny considering what the religious extremists do.

It actually also shows that the PC left isn't completely biased for islam, as it also calls atheists like Dawkins bullies who are unfairly mean to god believers (mostly Christians).

>>69687867

If you don't mind fags being slaughtered etc.
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>>69688922
Oh I know, but in the West in general Christianity has become so watered down it's no longer a serious threat.

"I've never even seen a Muslim over here."

You are lucky then, because at least Christianity gives some resemblance of peace. The "Global Caliphate" ISIS want involves you too.
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>>69687384
Because being an atheist doesn't make you a scientist, or a genius, or a logician, or a philosopher .
It makes you an atheist.
I am an atheist who HATES most Atheists
most of them are people who never got over their edgy teen years and have a hate boner for Christfags
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>>69688769
YES BROTHER!
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>>69687499
>same goals
kek

Atheists believe in science, don't hate gay people, and generally support a woman's right to her body.
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>>69689333
Checked
Also Jesus' teachings are more followed than the Jew testament
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WHERE'S THE JEWISH EXTREMIST OP
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>>69687945
protip: atheists don't believe in satan either ;))))
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>>69687384
Agreed OP.
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>>69690106
>"atheists believe in science"
>"muh dumb uneducated christians"
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>>69687384
Annoying people are worse than dangerous people.
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>>69690106
he was talking about atheism not "atheim+" shitface
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>>69687384
How many people has Dawkins killed today?
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Progressives fuckinghate us atheists and are even reluctant to call themselves atheists now, or they will call us New Atheists

Watch this
http://youtube.com/watch?v=BAz26Eylfgk
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>>69687384
/THREAD
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>>69690106
>atheists believe

You fucking wankstain.
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>>69687384
who does this shitposting?.. fucking subhumans of amerigas
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>>69687384
>There is no atheist extremist

Yes there is. Stop being so fucking blind.
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Non-believer here, anybody else find themselves liking christians more and more though? I live in a fairly heavily catholic area and nobody ever gives me shit for having a different belief or not sharing theirs. I can't help compare their attitude to the middle-east where I feel like I'd be beheaded for speaking my mind. The worst thing a christian I was arguing with has said to me was "well I'll pray you find the guidance you desire" which is pretty okay comparatively to ALLAHACKBAR.
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>>69687384

atheist extremist is much worse

>And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.
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>>69687384
Atheism is what caused this whole mess.
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>>69692097

Of course you like them, they aren't a threat like muslims are, if anything they are pretty cute especially when they say "Deus Vult this, Deus Vult that, crusade when?"
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>>69688596

comparing those with the west maybe you should kill your self you have brought great shame upon your family
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>>69692572
>catholics eventually launch next crusade
>crusader force 3/4 non-believers who just want to remove kebab
They'd accept heathens in their ranks, right? Long as you can swing a sword at a saracen, I'd expect you'd be fine.
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>>69693004

Sounds like the faith isn't really worth the time.

Anyways, how cute
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>>69687384
Are there any right-wing atheists to speak of? The only one I can think of is S. E. Cupp and she is very iffy about it, even explicitly vowing never to vote for an atheist candidate.

Hitch MAYBE was slightly right-leaning, but his death inhibits his ability to "save western civilization".

Sam Harris doesn't appear to be, despite accusations (by left-wing atheists, of course, who think anyone who isn't an extreme lefty is a righty. Harris is definitely NOT a libertarian, though, so maybe even lefties make the conclusion that way).

Dawk is anything from centre-left to extreme left, so he's out.

Mr. Into-the-trash-it-goes is sometimes mistaken (by lefties, of course) for a right-winger due to his libertarian appreciation for free markets (and his understanding that "taxation is theft"), but he actually bows slightly to his lefty origins (I don't think he's on the verge of conversion, though...just acknowledgment and understanding).

Who's left? Adam Carolla, perhaps? He fought off the patent troll only to bow to pressure to SJWs to run a couple of weekly "clean" shows to please sponsors (it's the freedom of the medium, not the language, that the SJWs are really after). This will be the end of commercial podcasting. Only No-Agenda-style value-for-value models will survive.
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>>69693164

Do you want to beat muslims or not?

Nobody is perfect so you might as well just take what you can get or else you will be praying to mecca 5 times a day
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>>69693386
How does "where are the right-wing Atheists" get to "I don't care if Muslims take over the world"? I honestly would like to know who they are, because the vast majority of my "fellow" atheists are extreme left-wing state worshippers. What do I "get" that I should "take"?
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>>69693893

People don't share every single one of your beliefs, you don't need ideological purity. If they are atheists then take them, worry about their politics if it interferes with your goal. For instance I disagree with a lot of left wing and right wing atheist but I will take them as long as they are not contributing to the muslim problem
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>>69687945
Did you know spirituality doesn't need religion but not vice versa?????
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>>69694181
Okay, I get what you're saying. Try to get along with them because at least they're atheists.

The problem is that extreme left-wing atheists are so far from my beliefs in every other way that I don't really have any common ground with them. I haven't replaced my lack of belief in a sky daddy with the earthen daddy of the State, while they have, meaning they're not even real atheists in my mind.
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>>69690106
M'lady
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>>69693143
Did you get fucked by a priest legit question.
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>>69694923

Like I said take them as long as they don't play interference. The guys from the Atheist Experience are good example of this, the are great when it comes to going against christians but they are total muslim apologists. I dumped them when it comes to confronting muslims. I am not just atheist to christian dogma but muslims too.
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>>69694893
How about unorganized atheism then?
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>>69687384
First off, I don't just hate atheists, I hate everything and every one.

Now, atheists are retarded because it's people who think that science is just merely coincidence, while fighting groups of people who think that science is the devil. They do this while claiming religion is terrible, while flying under their own pseudo religion. It's exactly the same problems as with religions, people who congregate under one idea, while fighting with everything they have to prove that they are right.

Fact is, the more humanity sciences the world, the more the world seems to come from a place of logic. A god is too simple of a concept and saying it is just coincidence is fucking retarded. Whether or not we are just a sort of "simulated" universe in an over dimensional black hole, or if our entire universe is some sort of universe in a jar some other dimensional being made for their science fair, we will never know. And trying to dispute each others' beliefs instead of looking at everything at face value and waiting until we can actually find out, is a meaningless waste of time.
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>>69695863
Isn't it amazing that no one seems to be able to figure that one out? All there is to atheism is a lack of a belief in a god. That is not the dominant characteristic of atheism--it is absolutely the ONLY characteristic of atheism, and it's even a NEGATIVE trait. I don't see how NOT BELIEVING IN A GOD could even be subject to organization, let alone inseparable from it. That's why I don't believe the Social Justice Warriors (which is what Atheism Plus is) have found a way to do that--it's just that the State IS their god, and social justice is the salvation of their religion.
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>>69687384
Fuck off, /pol/ is a Christian board

Jesus Christ approved
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>>69687384
I don't hate atheists, I hate fedoras
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>>69694893
Please show me evidence they killed people because they said "I believe in god"
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>>69687384
Stop pretending that anyone really gives a fuck.
I'm an atheist and haven't seen any anti-atheist shit here yet.
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>>69687945
t. Cruz supporter
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>>69691310
>Progressives fucking hate us atheists and are even reluctant to call themselves atheists now
This. Once people start believing in being rational and logical about things instead of MUH FEELINGS, they actually start to get redpilled in a way that's very detrimental to multiculturalists as demonstrated by >>69687682 and >>69687916. Some oven become racial realists because they value hard truth over comforting lies.

>>69698000
Me neither, but remember that in western Europe and other Commonwealth nations like Canada and Australia Christianity declined gradually and while they were still largely homogeneous societies. It wasn't seen as a cultural war like it is in the US and Eastern Europe.
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>>69687384
I have a good imagination, but I can't imagine fedoras defending much of anything except for their own faggotry.
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>>69688103
Wtf is this shit. You sound so retarded..
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>>69687384
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>>69691310
>us atheists
There is no "us atheists". Some atheists hate religion, some do not.
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>>69687384
>last one
>not Stalin or Mao
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>>69687830
Why do you even get out of bed? You don't know you aren't still dreaming.
Jump off a cliff, you don't know you'll die because you haven't done it yet.
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Only hitler could save the west!
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>>69688887
this

i cant believe in the existence of a god,but i sure as hell can believe in the christian values i have been taught, and i sure as hell can hate on the fedora tippers.
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>>69698712
Of course atheists are willing to defend things - Their right to free speech and for secular, rational values that don't place one religion above others or any religion above the law.

You think all the people who vote for nationalist parties and attend PEGIDA rallies in Europe are Christian, especially considering how many people in Europe identify as belonging to no religion? Bullshit. Atheists are just as willing if not more to fight Islam than Christians, and can use arguments Christians can't because it would make them hypocrites.
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Fuck off kike.

Atheists know that christians are much better than muslim scum faggots.

>Pic related taken right now
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>>69687384
Because religion is needed to keep the idiot masses in line and united against Islam. It's a useful lie.
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>>69687384
Except that guy in the middle wasn't a Christian extremist? He was robbing a bank, not attacking PP. in the official report he was holding people hostage to get away, not to disrupt the facility.

Get your facts straight libcuck
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>>69694893
>>69699055
>>69699940
>people actually believe leaders like Stalin killed in the name of atheism
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This. It all makes sense now.
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>>69687499
Nope, no room for unity. Atheists are no less our enemy than Muslims, and are perhaps even more dangerous. Any Christian who is in league with atheists is a deluded fool.
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>>69701795
you will either be destroyed now by the muslim, or in a hundred year by atheists

dont be a moron now, leaf. a death tomorrow is always better than a death today.
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>>69701932
No, the Christian who is in a state of grace is eager for martyrdom. Whether this comes at the hands of atheists or Mohammedans is of no concern.
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>>69702076
>i care not for when, how, and why i die, as long as it is seen as martyrdom

how are you gonna save the west again?
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>>69699940
Stalin was trained as a priest.
Also, supposedly he turned to religion again when germans came knocking at his door.
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>>69702391
Who said I am concerned about "the West"? Do you even know what you ask? The West is Christendom without Christ, a secular body which is a bottomless pit of corruption and sin. Not only would I not be interested in saving the West, but indeed I will praise the Lord should I live to see its destruction. Let whatever temporal power which has abandoned the path of righteousness be annihilated.
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>>69701795
What war are you fighting, leaf? Most atheists don't want to see society dominated by any religion and think no religion should be above the law. Frankly if you disagree with that you're a religious fundamentalist no better than the Muslims who want sharia law.
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>>69687384
Because they enable Muslim extremists.
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>>69687945
Apatheist here, whatever man.
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>>69702780
so, what is your interest in ''life'', or this topic then? just to be martyred? that is why youre here?
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>>69702800
I don't care at all what most atheists want to see. Do you not know that you and the Mohammedans serve the same master? Do you not know that it is because of you and through you, and because of those and through those from whom you descend that your circumstances are what they are? The Christian can do nothing for you, he can only shake the dust from his feet as it is written.

>>69703007
My interest in this topic is warning against any alliance with serpents. There is no ground for alliance between those who love Christ and those who love Mammon, humanism, "enlightenment", secularism or any other such trap.
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>>69703542
i dont like that either though. i value the christian values above all else, but i simply cant believe in the existence of a god. i dont advertise it, i dont believe in all the humanism shit.

jesus christ, were you beat by an atheist as little or something?
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>>69703757
To say that you value Christian values because they serve some temporal political or social end is to say nothing, and you will gain nothing for saying or thinking as much. The Christian who takes atheists as allies will only be dragged down to their hollow worldview, and not only will he gain nothing but will lose the only thing worth having.
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>>69704116
tell me, do you masturbate? have you ever? do you eat fish once a week, and only fish on that day?

you are as atheist as the rest of us in all ways but one, and that is that you believe that you are the chosen one/s, and that your faith will save you from being fucked in the ass, literally and figuratively by the muslims. because of your ''faith'' youd rather see the world burn, than pick the lesser of two evils just once.

based off of your words, grammar, and ancient way of speak, id say that youre either 1) a troll, 2) a shill of some sorts, 3) abused by an atheist/saved your mind by believing, or 4) a fanatic.

regardless, christianity IS the way to go in this cruel world, but saying that christianity would be better than atheism in the perfect world, your literal eden, is simply moronic.

you have deviated so far, and so much from your original christian paths that you would barely count as a christian. you are supposed to save your fellow man, and strike down those men who are not your fellows. you do neither, simply condemning those you do not agree with, regardless of the good or bad they do, and you would sooner see every saint, martyr, and faithful burned with the world, than renounce your stupidity.

into the trash it goes.
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>>69693569
>>69702974
>a modern muslim who kills in the name of islam
>a modern christian who kills in the name of
>a dictator who died 63 years ago who killed in the name of collectivism and just so happened to be an atheist
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>>69704682
Masturbation is a mortal sin, and for the same reason that I do not murder or rape or hate, neither do I masturbate. As to eating fish, I eat it on Fridays as has been prescribed since antiquity.

If you believe that the purpose of faith is to save one from suffering then you know nothing at all. I welcome suffering, for it unites us with our Lord. To have faith is to love God, and it is to strive to become an instrument of His will. If it is the will of my God that I should suffer, then I shall celebrate this suffering with the utmost ecstasy. One cannot be a Christian and avoid suffering.

Your argument regarding the lesser of two evils is meaningless. I am not a pragmatist, I am an absolutist. Either one loves the Lord and follows Christ the King with his own cross as on shoulders or he does not. If you are the former, then you are my brother. If you are the latter, then you are the enemy of reason and goodness.

>you are supposed to save your fellow man
What am I to do with one who says openly that he cannot believe in God? What does Sacred Scripture say of such people, if not that we must shake the dust from our feet? And if you mean to know whether or not I shall pray for you, I have already, but even this will be a point of mockery to the atheist. And that it should be some shock to you that those who profess the universality of the moral law, and those who serve the Lord should admonish those that do not, what am I to say? Do you know nothing of us at all?
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>>69687384
>Atheist Extremist
Not using a picture of Stalin.
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>>69706257

How does believing in god work, anon? Honest question... I was never taught in scripture.
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>>69706384
Who did stalin kill in the name of atheism again?
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>>69706399
It is to accept as true what you cannot know to be true. It is not the suspension of reason, nor is it the explanation of those things for which we have no answer as a "matter of God". It is turning the heart to your Lord even though you cannot be certain of His existence or the veracity of the Gospel. And when you falter, you turn your heart to God once again.

This is faith, and everyone on this planet does this every day in contexts external to religion. When you order food at a restaurant, how do you know it isn't poisoned? You don't, but you accept that it isn't on faith. When you step outside your front door, how do you know you will not be killed by a passing car or a bolt of lightening? You don't, but you accept that these things will not happen on faith. And when you wake up in the morning, how do you know that God exists, and that Jesus Christ is the Logos? You don't, but you accept these things on faith and live as though these were the clearest and greatest truths that ever were, are, and will be.
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>>69707004
So what would you do when you get to the gates of heaven (assuming it exists) and find out your god isn't the real god?
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>>69687384
I agree OP.
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>>69707661
In such case, I would say: what have I lost that could be gained? I have lived a good life, and those who knew me will remember me fondly, and I never let a fellow man who was in need of help to go without.

And what will you do when you stand before your God and your sins are laid bare and you have lost the only thing worth having?

This is Pascal's Wager. When I die, if I am wrong, I lose nothing. When you die, if you are wrong, you have lost everything.
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>>69707004
And how do you reconcile that in this vast universe where there are probably hundreds of alien civilizations, we are supposedly the ones made in "gods" image?
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>>69708070
If you die and you're wrong, you've wasted so much of your finite time actually existing, limiting yourself.
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>>69706702
last i checked, abortion clinic bombing is not mentioned in the bible either
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>>69708166
If there are aliens, what is to say that our Lord has not made a covenant with them as he has with us? Sacred Scripture is God's revelation of Himself to mankind from the beginning of creation to the end of days, it says nothing about aliens nor does it reject the possibility of God having made a covenant with other forms of life which we have simply not been made aware of. Why have we not been made aware of it, assuming these things are true? Because such knowledge is not a necessity for our own salvation, neither is it necessarily relevant to our own relationship with and to God.
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>>69687384
Daily Reminder
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>>69708625
I give your mental gymnastics routine an 8.5/10.
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>>69709126
By all means, if I have answered unfairly or dishonestly then point out where.
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>>69704824
>The soviet state did not actively denounce and act against religion
t. sleeper agent
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>>69708070
>And what will you do when you stand before your God and your sins are laid bare and you have lost the only thing worth having?
That believing in a higher power was illogical when he's done nothing to help me in the past and would clearly never do anything to help me even if I wasted time on his religion which may or may not even exist on the planet I'm from.
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>>69708518
>b-but almost 10 people have been killed by christian extremists in the past 100 years omg gais!

Every fucking time you people cry a river over the minuscule amount of people killed in abortion clinic attacks and then nothing but cold emotionless indifference to 100 million+ killed by atheistic communist regimes.

You can't just sell a bullshit sob story like that and then turn off the water works when it's your side conducting the brutality. Either you care about human life or you (try to pretend you do and) don't.

Faux moralist fuck heads like you are the worst of all.
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>>69710304
>That believing in a higher power was illogical when he's done nothing to help me
Do you mean apart from suffering persecution and crucifixion for your sake?
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>>69710469
And how can you prove that has happened or benefited me in any way at all?
And that's even assuming it's a god of a religion where some god put himself on earth for 33 years for the sole purpose of dying for my sins.
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>>69688245
yup, atll the atheists will convert to islam just because theyre not christian.
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>>69710402
>100 million+ killed by atheistic communist regimes.


yeah dont we all know the great wars of atheism, i heard that stalin made his generals wave the atheist flag before every battle
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>>69687384
>If people actually adhered to the teachings of Jesus, Europe would have been taken over by Islam a long time ago, not to mention that many Christian are loons.

t. atheist the inquisition missed.
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>>69710746
Primarily through witness testimony, all of which with the exception of one went to their imprisonment and subsequent martyrdom testifying to the crucifixion, death, and resurrection of Jesus Christ at no personal, temporal gain to themselves. And if such witness testimony is not credible or valid by your standard, then perhaps we should also be asking why it is that virtually all modern courts of law make judgments based upon this form of proof.

As to Christ's death and resurrection for your sins, this is the ultimate but not sole purpose of his mission. It was also to teach, and to reveal the mind of God to mankind in a more intimate and personal way than Scripture is capable of accomplishing.
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>>69711961
Eye witness testimony's really useful when it's 2000 years old.
Eye witness by who's accounts?
By a book?
A book which some random guy wrote?
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>>69687682
>killing civilians with drones and f16 for oil is ok though
im an atheist but this guy is the biggest tard
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*DIBS BEDORA* :---DDDDD
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>>69687384
>not putting Chairman Mao or Stalin as atheist extremist

Let's just ignore the fact that the two largest genocides in history were committed by atheist regimes.
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I hate both Christians and Muslims. For me they believe in the same violent religion of the desert built on a retarded dogma.

I prefer Jews to them because Jews have the original Abrahamic religion AND they keep their religion for themselves.
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>>69687682
also
> implying KKK are not Christians
> implying Hitler wasn't Christian
> implying Bush is not Christian
> implying Mexican cartels are not Christians

its not about the religion to be honest its about how to use it to justify your acts . Muslims in war zones use religion as a refuge that unite them against what they see an enemy it would work in any religion
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>>69687384
Nice try, but I'll give you an actual christian extremist
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>>69687384
fixed it for ya faggot

>in b4 school shooters don't do it BECAUSE their atheist they just happen to be atheist!!!

Yet everyone else who does something crazy and happens to religious its because their religious and not because their crazy?

Fuck you fedora shits. Die.
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>>69687945
This is true. Atheists, by rejecting the Christian God and heavenly pursuits, are literally becoming Satanists without even knowing it.
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>>69690470
Atheists mirror Satan because he is the leader of the rebellion against God. What is more of a rebellion against God than Atheism? Western Atheists have been absorbing the Christian doctrine, and in rebelling against it are thereby accepting Satan, who to them is not bad for rebelling against the almighty God.
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>>69687384
no jewish extremist option?
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>>69687384
All extremists bad. Shut up and keep sucking Mehmit's cock.
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>>69712791
>they keep their religion for themselves.
>he doesn't know what critical theory is.
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>>69711308
>mao's great leap forward never happened

You are merely editing history to soften the blow to your psych that you are aligned with the most evil people that ever lived.

Eat a bullet you contrarian slut.
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>>69713186
>Yet everyone else who does something crazy and happens to religious its because their religious and not because their crazy?

Yes. It's entirely possible to commit a crime in the name of religion when you think you're following God's command. Why do you think 99% of terrorist attacks are Islamic? The Q'uran justifies it in the name of jihad.

How many atheists have committed a crime because they think Richard Dawkins' "The God Delusion" represents the infallible, unchanging word of God?

BTW, you know what's really dumb? Believing in talking snake that inhabit magical gardens, lmao.
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>>69693569
>>69687384
Stalin didn't kill in the name of atheism... but the guy in the middle didn't kill in the name of Christianity either.
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>>69687384
Because they are too edgy.
Which is ironic. Because this board isn't the most polished either.
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>>69714161
Historical materialism is the most significant atheist ideology ever created and it has killed hundreds of millions and started thousands of conflicts across the globe.
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>>69714063
>you are aligned with the most evil people that ever lived
That's pretty dumb. Saying that atheists are aligned with communists is the same as saying that Christians are aligned with Muslims because they are both theists.
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>>69687384
>/pol/, why do you hate atheists? If people actually adhered to the teachings of Jesus, Europe would have been taken over by Islam a long time ago, not to mention that many Christian are loons.

>Right-wing atheism is the only thing that will save western civilization.

Christians may be crazy. But due to atheism, Christianity has been declining in Europe for a long time, making Europe vulnerable to Islam. Atheists have done half the work of Muslims already, by promoting deconversion. Athiests have created a vacuum in Europe which Islam is all to happy to fill. With atheists and Christians fighting, they lost sight of the true enemy: radical Islam.

Atheism is not an antidote to Islam. Christianity is.

Atheism cannot stop Islam. Only Christianity can.

>Zizek prescribes a dose of Christianity to an anemic and largely impotent Left he diagnoses as suffering from a debilitating malady - postmodern ethical relativism.

>In three recent books - The Fragile Absolute, On Belief, and The Puppet and the Dwarf - Slavoj Zizek calls on the Left to reclaim the Christian legacy from the religious Right.
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>>69714367
>Zizek
Lel
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>>69687384
>atheist extremist
>not Mao or Stalin
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>>69687384
More like

>Extreme Muslim: Blows up and kills 20 people

>Extreme Atheist: Tries to murder priests (like Da Vinci Code group)

>Extreme Christian: Preaches God in the open.
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Soviet atheists killed 20 million Christians
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>>69714161
You're more likely to get killed by an angry fedora-core atheist school shooter in the US than get killed by either a Islamic or Christian crazy person.

Atheism is such a small, tiny, minority but accounts for so much death?

Atheism is a destructive mental disorder, deal with it.

tl;dr
lol man ignore the 23m dead Russians because of atheism, talking snakes LMAO dude xD
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>>69688887
>The concept of an "atheist-christian" is fucking stupid. A literal contradiction.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_Christian

By the way, Anders Behring Breivik called himself a cultural Christian.

Only true believer Christians claim that atheists can't be Christians (because they have pre-conceived notions of what True Christians believe).
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>>69714883
Do Muslim terrorists kill because they believe in God or because their religion is barbaric?
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>>69714883
>#1 cause of war/death/suffering is atheistic communism
Nope, Islam. Pretty sure their death count is about 200 million and growing.
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>>69714324
i think he was the planned parenthood shooter. his extremist beliefs of fetus=baby came from his religion so he's a christian extremist.
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>>69714883
t. Cleetus
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>>69715386
Correction, THEISTIC Islam.

Because believing in God is clearly the problem and not the medieval belief system.
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>>69714883
>>69715236
Pretty sure all killers kill because their Sociopaths.

As unlikeable as you are as a person, and as unlikeable as most Atheist are as people. It is a tiny minority that turns killer.

This is true of all groups. Including the mudslimes.
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>>69701695

Stalin was atheist and millions died under him.

It doesn't matter if it was "in the name of atheism" or not. That doesn't make sense anyway, because it's not like atheism has some central figure. It's not like doing things "in the name of Jesus." In atheism, there is nothing there.
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>>69714883
But why God gave them mental disorder ?
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>>69687384
>why do you hate atheists
Because they're degenerates and no better than protestants on forcing people to accept Muslims.
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>>69687384
I'm not religious but you are presenting a false equivalency between the muslim extremist and christian extremist

The difference is that the muslim leadership supports, funds and promotes the actions of the muslim extremist

The christian leadership does not support the christian extremist at all

All religions are stupid as fuck but not all religions are equally fucked up
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>>69715889
Nah. Stalin is more comparable to people like Assad or Saddam, but worse obviously, as those were Islamic but not chalked up to extremists for Islam.
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>>69687384
>Right-wing atheism is the only thing that will save western civilization.
extremist right-wing and left-wing atheism killed millions of people lad
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>>69687384
>>69704824
>>69701695

REMINDER: atheist dictators who murdered church leaders (read: all of them) were definitely killing in the name of atheism
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>>69715435
>extremist beliefs of fetus=baby
>extermist beliefs
>extremist

And people are still obvious as to why a sizable minority of the population believe we're living in the end times. Life begins at conception, it's no longer "your body, your choice" when your body contains a living being that shares half of it's DNA with another living person. For the record, I'm not religious nor am I "pro-life" but to pretend it's just a clump of cells until it passes through the apparently magical life designating birth canal is absolutely retarded.
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>>69715858
They might also kill because they're indoctrinated to believe it's the right thing to do.

Just believing or not believing in God isn't enough to make someone kill though, which was my point.
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>>69708166

This makes no sense.

I assume you don't believe in God due to lack of evidence.

So why believe in alien civilizations despite a total lack of evidence?

Without any evidence, you're more willing to believe in aliens than God?
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>>69715858
No.
The Quran is specificaly designed to make the muslim a warrior whose goal is either to convert or kill the non believer.
Considering the murder of a non believer is okay in an islamic society it is not sociopathic.
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>>69716122
"And kill church leaders wherever you find them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out."

Dawkins 9:11
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>>69711308
>yeah dont we all know the great wars of atheism, i heard that stalin made his generals wave the atheist flag before every battle

http://www.abc.net.au/religion/articles/2012/04/17/3478816.htm

>it is for those who refer to "god" in a brutally direct way, perceiving themselves as instruments of his will, that everything is permitted.

>But what about the Stalinist Communist mass killings? What about the extra-legal liquidations of the nameless millions? It is easy to see how these crimes were always justified by their own ersatz-god, a "god that failed" as Ignazio Silone, one of the great disappointed ex-Communists, called it: they had their own god, which is why everything was permitted to them.
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>>69714324
stalin did kill in the name of atheism. he ran a government that was atheistic and they rounded up and murdered religious people.
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>>69716445
Actually mathematically speaking alien life is pretty much guaranteed to exist out there somewhere. That's not to say we'll ever meet them of course.
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Because atheists tend to be militant as fuck if something they don't agree with is brought up
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antitheism isn't atheism
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>>69717028
Personally as long as you aren't effecting my life with your religion or are a danger to others because of your religion (e.g. death cults) I'm completely fine with it.
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>>69716687

>muh 'atheists have no morals' meme
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>I lately started to think that we need to go further: go beyond humorous ridicule, sharpen our barbs to a point where they really hurt.
What did Dawkins mean by this? Is he encouraging extremist atheism? Is he an atheist extremist himself?
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>>69716445

The fact we exist is the proof that life can happen in universe with a given situation.

The question is:
"What are the chance that there is others alien civilization ?"
And not
"Can an alien civilization exist ?"

The questions are very differents, but the answere is pretty much the same: we don't know hehe.
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>Dawkins
>Atheist extremist
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>>69687384
>Atheists never mass murdered anyone
lol

>Tips fedora
Good day to you gentlemen
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>>69714161
>Why do you think 99% of terrorist attacks are Islamic? The Q'uran justifies it in the name of jihad.

Terrorism is politically motivated attacks by non-state actors. Although the media loves to call nearly any violence these days "terrorism" (unless it's drones dropping bombs out of nowhere from the sky).

Terrorism is about humiliating people, making them lose face.

>To understand the hatred the rest of the world feels towards the West, we must reverse our perspectives. This is not the hatred felt by people from whom we have taken everything and to whom we have given nothing back. Rather, it is the hatred felt by those to whom we have given everything and who can give nothing in return. Their hatred stems from humiliation, not from dispossession or exploitation. The attacks of 11 September were a response to this animus, with one kind of humiliation begetting another.

Most terrorist attacks are motivated by revenge. When someone is facing a hugely overpowered adversary, terrorism seems to them like a viable mode of resistance.

>The unilateral gift from the terrorist attempts to over-power the powerful, attempts to win the potlatch, attempts to win ‘face’, and attempts to win the contest of honour. “It is that power which humiliated you, so it too must be humiliated” (Baudrillard 2002: 26). A pyrrhic victory, some might say, but nevertheless an immediate symbolic victory, “a victory over all power, however powerful its authority may be” (Baudrillard 1993: 38).

And "virtually any violence perpetrated by rebels in civil wars is now being called terrorism."

Islam refuses to assimilate to globalism.

Nowadays, all modes of defiance or resisting globalism are deemed terrorism.

>if Islam dominated the world, terrorism would fight against it. For it is the world itself which resists domination.
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>>69688185
Lenin, Mao, Pol Pot.
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>>69687830
It's pretty much impossible to prove a negative. Basic logic says your default position on a claim should be disbelief unless someone present compelling that the claim is true. Everybody, even the uber-religious follows this rule on the vast majority of claims. Atheists just happen to apply this logic to the idea of god as well.

There is no good evidence that god exists, therefore I don't believe in it. If someone presents compelling evidence I believe it, but no one has ever done that.
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>>69718153
they never did it in the name of a religion so yes that is correct
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>>69716877

Earth is the only planet where life is known to exist.

Earth is a planet, life exists on Earth, there are billions of planets in the universe, therefore life is guaranteed to exist elsewhere in the universe despite zero evidence?

That's like thinking "dinosaurs lived on Earth for hundreds of millions of years, therefore it's highly likely that dinosaurs also existed on tons of other planets."

The Drake equation suggets how abundant extraterrestrial life is (even though it's never been observed, like God).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drake_equation

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fermi_paradox
>The Fermi paradox or Fermi's paradox, named after Enrico Fermi, is the apparent contradiction between high estimates of the probability of the existence of extraterrestrial civilizations, such as in the Drake equation, and the lack of evidence for such civilizations.

The Rare Earth equation basically deals with how rare life is:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rare_Earth_hypothesis
>In planetary astronomy and astrobiology, the Rare Earth Hypothesis argues that the origin of life and the evolution of biological complexity such as sexually reproducing, multicellular organisms on Earth (and, subsequently, human intelligence) required an improbable combination of astrophysical and geological events and circumstances. The hypothesis argues that complex extraterrestrial life is a very improbable phenomenon and likely to be extremely rare.
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>>69718285
>implying it is a reaction to globalism

Islam is fundamentally designed for war, they don't fight to defend their identity or way of living (as it is demonstrated by europeans muslim terrorists), they fight to conquer.

I disagree with this "white guilt" lecture saying that basically western culture power humiliates them since it is not something observable in South America or Asia.
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>>69719140
Atheism isn't what made them do those things, communism was. Ironically communism is easily as a delusional a belief as religion.

I also sometimes doubt that many famous commies were actual atheists. I think their state atheism was more about breaking the power of the church than anything.
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>>69719291
It's correct that atheists never mass murdered anyone? Hmm. You sure about that?
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>>69717953

That wasn't the point at all (although any moral codes that atheists invent would be as much of a man-made fantasy as any deities they invent).

And since atheism is lack of belief in God, all non-humans in the universe are atheist (since humans are the only animal known to believe in God). Rocks don't believe in God (because rocks can't believe anything), therefore rocks are atheist. Do rocks have morals? Do insects have morals? Do sharks have morals? Does Ebola have morals?

The point was that atheist communists (and many atheists) still worship their own version of god, which lets them justify their actions.
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>>69687880
Leftists are the most religious people there are. They are all devout followers of the anthropogenic global warming cult.
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>>69687384
wut
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>>69719588
They never killed people simply for being religious. They ere communists who wanted to assert state control and as such they killed groups that represented threats.

No one (intelligent) is saying that no atheist has ever committed mass murder. What they are saying is that atheism is not used as a reason for genocide
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>>69718036

Well, seeing as how life has only been found on Earth, the current odds would seem to be 1 out of how-many-other-billion-planets exist.

Life emerged on Earth under very specific conditions. One of the hallmarks of science is repeatability, and yet one would have to have faith those those very specific conditions were repeated elsewhere, when nearly everywhere humans have looked in the universe has been observed to be extremely hostile to life.

Humans exist, and humans are the only animal that we have found that believes in God.

Is it reasonable to believe that theists exist elsewhere in the universe since many humans are theist?

Or is perhaps the history of Earth merely a singular, unrepeatable event?
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>>69719290

What do you consider evidence of God? It entirely depends on what you think God is, what attributes you think God has, your pre-conceived notion of God, your expectations of God.

But how can you know that your concept of God is correct? How do you know what to look for? How do you know you're looking in the right place? How do you know you'll recognize God when you find It?
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>>69719325

Earth is the only known observable planet with life. If you actually consider how much space is out there and how many trillions of floating rocks in space there are then you would understand that to think us alone is ridiculous. Is it possible that this is the only planet to evolve organisms with consciousness? Maybe. That is a far more likely hypothesis than the idea that no life (from single celled bacteria to humans) exists anywhere else. That in all of the improbable chances that created humanity it to think it could not happen or has not already happened anywhere else even at a lessened level is downright stupid.

You have to understand that we are so far from the closest observable galaxy that chances are if we saw the existence of life on another planet there through some sort of telescope by the time we got there their civilization is more likely to have been wiped out than making contact. Think of all the human civilizations that have risen and fallen and been so forgotten we only learn about their existence from modern archaeology? Probably a good part of the reason we don't know any other sources of life in the universe is because nothing has evolved intelligence on our level yet to maintain civilization.
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>>69687384
Atheists are alphas while theists are betas. Take a look at the regular threads on pol. It's obvious.
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>>69719325
>there are billions of planets in the universe
A bit of an understatement. I don't think you quite understand how large the universe is.
But I don't blame you, no one really does, it's unimaginably big.

>therefore life is guaranteed to exist elsewhere in the universe despite zero evidence?
The Drake equation you posted pretty much sums it up.
There's n planets in the universe, y suns to go with those planets. A sun can have 0 planets, it can have multiple. (I think the average is estimated at about 1.6) So what's the chance of the planet potentially supporting life? Well it has to be within a certain range from the sun on enough of a stable orbit to not go past that range (and a bunch of other shit I'm sure).
So the question is whether the chance of a planet supporting life is greater than the number of planets. If we decide to broaden it to "has existed" rather than "does exist", then that makes it even more likely.

>even though it's never been observed
Observation isn't necessary to deduct something most likely exists, it does help though.
For example, we can't observe dimensions but we know for a fact there are more than 3 (I think the current maximum is 11-13 or so).

And your rare earth point is retarded, it's suggesting aliens MUST sexually reproduce and have human intelligence to be considered an alien. We're looking for bacteria on Mars for fuck sakes. Life is life.

The sheer amount of space out there (pun intended) just makes it next to impossible for there not to be some form of life or another somewhere out there.
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>>69720978
You are arguing for certainty when we only have probabilities about the estimate on life on other planets. You are seriously making a fallacies leap in your arguments. Intelligent life on exoplanets is a probability, not a certainty.
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>>69712321
>government killing people for political agendas is the same as people killing in the name of a made up diety
Stay cucked
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>>69721523

I made no arguments for certainty. Also the bacteria that started life on Earth literally came from the orbital bombardment early in Earth's life. By definition this is life existing outside of Earth. This idea that there is no life anywhere else is absolutely retarded and factually false.

I even argued that the chance of intelligent life being elsewhere a less likely but still possible CHANCE. Where the hell are you reading certainty anywhere in my post? Get some reading comprehension krautcuck.
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>>69719469
>>implying it is a reaction to globalism

Islamic terrorism is a response to globalism (although I probably should have said globalization), and globalism is what makes terrorism possible (with airplanes and global travel, with the media and global transmission of audio/video, with banking and the global transmission of money, with the Internet and global transmission of ideology, etc).

>Money and financial speculation, information technologies and aeronautics, the production of spectacle and media networks: they have assimilated all of modernity and globalization, while maintaining their aim to destroy it.

>Islam is fundamentally designed for war, they don't fight to defend their identity or way of living (as it is demonstrated by europeans muslim terrorists), they fight to conquer.

There are all kinds of Islam that aren't inherently warlike, for example, Sufism.

There are many kinds of Islam that are warlike, but it's not like all 1.6 billion Muslims worldwide (23%, or about 1/4 people on Earth) are warlike (any more than any human is warlike).

But I would agree with Sam Harris when he said
>It is simply a fact that the greatest predictor of terrorist behavior anywhere in the world (with the exception of the island Sri Lanka) is whether or not a person believes that Allah is the only god and Muhammad is his prophet.

>I disagree with this "white guilt" lecture saying that basically western culture power humiliates them since it is not something observable in South America or Asia.

It's not about white guilt. It's about Muslims being humiliated by the West (like when US forces occupied Saudi Arabia, the birthplace of Islam, before the Gulf War, which angered Osama Bin Laden) and symbolically humiliating Western power.
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>>69719473

In Cambodia, Pol Pot was a communist and the Khmer Rouge executed at least 1.3 million people, and their policies killed up to 2.5 million people, many of them targeted for religion.

When genocide is conducted against religious people, when people are killed for being religious, it's hard to argue that atheism is unrelated to the killing.
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>>69712816
Hitler wasn't Christian
And none of these groups/people commited the atrocities they have in the name of Christianity. Islamic terrorist groups have.
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>>69719878

So you think global warming isn't due to CO2 or methane, but what? Solar cycles?

You're like one of those cigarette smokers who believed Big Tobacco when they said cigarettes don't cause cancer.

The only people who have any reason to deny the effects of carbon pollution are the people who profit from it.
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>>69719797
>Do insects have morals? Do sharks have morals?


depends on what do you describe as morals, animals dont kill their babies for fun, piranhas even if starving wont eat eachother in a feeding frenzy. does that mean they have rules written by god? do animals suddenly believe in god just because they dont kill their abbies or mates (most of them at least)

(the answer is no btw)
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>>69720087
>What they are saying is that atheism is not used as a reason for genocide

Yes it is. When people are killed for having any religion. A belief in the authority of God threatens the authority of the State. If you're worshiping your own God, you won't be worshipping the god of the State.
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>>69720978

That's the thing. Since Earth is the only planet where life has been observed, how can you figure any kind of probability?

You can mention trillions and trillions of rocks, so you might think the chances are good, but from all available evidence space is extremely hostile to life. It's safe to assume that life is extremely rare. The more we look, life hasn't become less rare, but more rare.

And honestly, who cares if Mars has single-cell bacteria? Humans don't even care about single-cell life on Earth. People regularly support abortions on Earth of multicellular living beings. "It's just a clump of cells" they say.

I just don't know why atheists (who are supposedly more rational than theists), will readily believe in extraterrestrial life despite a complete lack of evidence, while rejecting God due to a complete lack of evidence.
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>>69724039
>And honestly, who cares if Mars has single-cell bacteria?
You're kidding right?
It's not like humans rose out of the ground once the planet was formed.
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>>69721407
>We're looking for bacteria on Mars for fuck sakes. Life is life.

Why? Humans don't even care about bacteria (or most other lifeforms) on Earth. And it's not like humans value all life, all cells. And if humans ever do find bacteria on Mars, chances are it hitched a ride on one of the rovers that humans sent to Mars. We might be colonizing Mars with Earth bacteria right now.

>The sheer amount of space out there (pun intended) just makes it next to impossible for there not to be some form of life or another somewhere out there.

Rare Earth's requirements for complex life:

The right location in the right kind of galaxy
Orbiting at the right distance from the right type of star
With the right arrangement of planets
A continuously stable orbit
A terrestrial planet of the right size
With plate tectonics
A large moon
One or more evolutionary triggers for complex life
The right time in evolution

And I think a magnetosphere?

People don't even know how abiogenesis happened on Earth (something else that humans will never observe, or repeat). So how exactly can you believe it happened elsewhere?

At that point, you're veering into something akin to religious faith, faith in unseen things.

The belief is based on "life happened here, so it can happen elsewhere", while ignoring all the conditions (and events) that make here "here." And also by assuming that the emergence of life is an inevitability (viewing the past as inevitable, because it happened it must have happened).
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>>69722397
>I made no arguments for certainty. Also the bacteria that started life on Earth literally came from the orbital bombardment early in Earth's life. By definition this is life existing outside of Earth. This idea that there is no life anywhere else is absolutely retarded and factually false.

I've read about nucleotides in meteors, but not cells coming to Earth.

And based on all available evidence, there is no life anywhere else.

Would you accept the argument that since there are billions and billions of star systems that it's probable that God lives on a planet in one of them? Why or why not?
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>>69725198
>The right location in the right kind of galaxy
>Orbiting at the right distance from the right type of star
>With the right arrangement of planets
>A continuously stable orbit
>A terrestrial planet of the right size
>With plate tectonics
>A large moon
>One or more evolutionary triggers for complex life
>The right time in evolution
The majority of that is literally suggesting it must be earth, not life earth.
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>>69687384
i'd say the atheist extremist would be those kids who asked people if they believed in god and shot the christians at that college a long time ago
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>>69687384
>will save western civilization.
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>>69722970

Maybe many animals exhibit what could be called "moral behavior" (often a regular aversion to eating their own), and many atheists talk about the evolution of morality (or even the evolution of religion). But I don't think it means that non-humans have moral codes that they follow. So Earth is full of (non-human) atheists that don't follow any moral codes.

Humans have invented moral codes. And humans have invented gods. And many of those moral codes are imbued with authority by saying they came from a god.

I don't think all human atheists are amoral. I just like asking atheists WHY they have the morals they do (since any moral code is man-made, like any god if there is no God).
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>>69716445

Yes because I can see life, it's tangible, and the universe is incredibly vast.

Alien life is far more likely than any religion being truth, or any god existing.
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>>69724570

Why should anyone care? Do you care about the single-cell bacteria living on your fingertips right now?

If Mars has single-cell bacteria, I'm sure atheists would be all excited, they would see it as further proof that Earth has no special place in a huge meaningless universe, just further devaluing life on Earth.

"See everyone? I told you life was pointless and nothing really matters! Hooray!"
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>>69726849
Wow, I'm seeing the result of the American education system.
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>>69726849
How the fuck did you go from
>life exists elsewhere
to
>life doesn't matter
?
All it means is you aren't a special snowflake, a god didn't construct the universe for you. You should celebrate finding life because it means we may possibly contact intelligent aliens (in the distant future) which we may or may not want to do and learning from them would either be great for scientific advancement in pretty near every field or the death of mankind as they harvest our planet for resources.
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>>69725629

Those are the only conditions we know of where life emerged.

Why believe life can emerge under differenct conditions without any evidence?

But say we do find cells on another planet. Are we just supposed to drop everything and worship it? No, it would be "oh look, some more life that is doomed to death in a cold unforgiving universe."

But even if alien life is found, theists could wonder why this universe seems primed for life.
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>>69726626

You're more likely to believe that alien life exists on another planet, than believe that God exists on another planet?

Like you said, the universe is incredibly vast and life is tangible, right in front of you. I guess it would be hard if you thought God was intangible, but when it comes to God how do you know you're looking for the right thing?
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>>69727360
Excluding the possibility of life existing under conditions we don't know of, the same conditions on Earth mathematically must exist in the universe somewhere else.
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>>69727360
>only conditions we know of
Sample size: 1.

>But say we do find cells on another planet. Are we just supposed to drop everything and worship it? No, it would be "oh look, some more life that is doomed to death in a cold unforgiving universe."
We learn we're not alone then we start studying because human beings like to answer questions.
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>>69727360
>But even if alien life is found, theists could wonder why this universe seems primed for life.
It isn't. Life is primed for this universe. That's called evolution.
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>>69723186
>Yes it is. When people are killed for having any religion.
That was not the case in Russia, China, etc. They were killed because they represented a threat to the state. It's not like Stalin killed every single professed Christian, and Orthodox Christianity survived throughout Stalin and Communism in Russia.

Yes, Stalin did target some religious communities, but he did so in order to increase his own power
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>>69688596
East Asians are xenophobic.
Your examples know better than to let them in and their culture repels them.
And in the case of the Chinese, they ACTIVELY repel Islam because it seeks as an ideology to usurp any other authority.
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>>69727686
Let's get down to what you really mean. You mean YOUR god, the one out of thousands that have and will exist.
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>>69726995

Suppose they find alien bacteria on Mars.

How does that have any relevance to anybody on Earth (except the people who get government funding to explore Mars)?

Would you think "Oh wow, Mars can support life, we should move there, where it's totally inhospitable, and has much less resources than Earth, even if Earth suffered a major cataclysm?"

I guess atheists would squeal with delight, "I told you Genesis was false!"
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>>69722680
>Ironically communism is easily as a delusional a belief as religion.
That's an understatement. Communism IS the religion in the places it rules. Are there any other political ideologies that ban competing religions in the way that communism does?
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>>69693164
S.E. Cupp is terrible. Very low-level commentary.

Also she says she wishes she could believe in Christ, and she pities atheists.
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>>69728318
>S.E. Cupp is terrible. Very low-level commentary.
Agreed but she's the only "right wing atheist" I could think of. I would bone her until I was comatose, though.
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>>69692309
>>And fear not them which kill the body
Top kek. Yes, Billy, it's okay when Alex kills your girl, maybe offer him your son as well! Remember to kill the atheists!
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>>69726092
Jokes on him, we're full of atheist professors today.

Can't say the same about alchemy and secret bible cheat codes though.
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>>69728497
>manlets, not even once
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>>69688922
You have seven islamic terror groups operation in your country and 1 non-islamic terror group.

Your country is less than 1% Muslim.
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>Dawkins
>extremist

I think TJ would've been a better choice
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All these nutjob SJWs are atheists, aren't they?
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>>69728979
There's a lot of SJW/"atheist" overlap. But as the State is the Christ of Social Justice, they are every bit as zealous about it as fundamentalists are about their messiahs--that is, it's a religion itself.
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>>69716122
>definitely killing in the name of atheism
No. It was still killing to remove any potential enemies for the state and not atheism.
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>>69727326
>How the fuck did you go from
>>life exists elsewhere
>to
>>life doesn't matter

When humans realized Earth was not the center of the universe, it displaced humans place in the universe. When humans realized the Sun was not the center of the universe, it further displaced humans place in the universe. When humans realized the Solar system was not the center of the universe, it further displaced humans place in the universe. When humans realized the Milky Way galaxy was not the center of the universe, it further displaced humans place in the universe.

Discovering life somewhere other than Earth would further displace humans place in the universe (and displace all life on Earth).

>All it means is you aren't a special snowflake, a god didn't construct the universe for you.

Yes, by saying there's nothing special to life or the emergence of life, you devalue life. It means what happens on Earth doesn't really matter, it could happen anywhere. It only increases the meaninglessness of the phenomenon of life and death. It means you are a snowflake, simply the product of some natural process, and you are melting. Dust to dust, soup to soup.

But theists could argue that God constructed the universe to incubate life:

>"Look, here is a tree in the garden and every summer is produces apples, and we call it an apple tree because the tree "apples." That's what it does. Alright, now here is a solar system inside a galaxy, and one of the peculiarities of this solar system is that at least on the planet earth, the thing peoples! In just the same way that an apple tree apples!" -Alan Watts

>You should celebrate finding life because it means we may possibly contact intelligent aliens (in the distant future) which we may or may not want to do and learning from them would either be great for scientific advancement in pretty near every field or the death of mankind as they harvest our planet for resources.

Stephen Hawking says we should fear intelligent aliens.
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>You can never ever undo all the damage you did during your atheist years.

Lets just hope He's as big on this forgiveness thing as people say.
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>>69687945
>atheists goals are to get rid of Christianity and make way for satanism

>atheism
>believes in satan

to believe in christian satan you must believe on christian god.
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>>69690106
>Atheists believe in science, don't hate gay people, and generally support a woman's right to her body.

atheist dont believe on the existance of any god, PERIOD

nothing more, nothing less.

stop shaping the word atheism.
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>>69728318
I agree, Cupp is a cunt. She is to atheists what Milo is ot gays, a self-hating atheist whose atheism only represents an atheist puppet for the conservative shills on her network
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>>69727768
>the same conditions on Earth mathematically must exist in the universe somewhere else.

Based on the Drake equation? Yet there is still no evidence.

That's the problem with math. It assumes 1 is 1 is 1. As if there's some other identical copy of Earth out there. Earth is totally unique.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fermi_paradox
>The Fermi paradox is a conflict between arguments of scale and probability that seem to favor intelligent life being common in the universe, and a total lack of evidence of that we have been visited by any extraterrestrial intelligence.
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>>69713621
>Atheists mirror Satan because he is the leader of the rebellion against God.
What the fuck are you talking about?
PS: Cristian here.

I dont believe we live on a matrix, this doenst mean I am against the creation of a matrix, or against the creator of this possible matrix people think we live in.

I also dont believe time travel to the past is possible, this doenst mean, I am against such technology or whateaver.

I also dont believe on elfs, this doenst mean I think elfs would be bad guys.

I also dont believe on sapient aliens, this doenst mean that if somehow we discover sapient aliens exist, I will be racist against them or whateaver

Atheists just dont believe on god, nothing more, nothing less.

Also, every sing person that is not an christian also doesnt believe on the christian god, yet you focus on atheism. We also dont believe on their gods and we arent making a rebbelion against their gods, we just dont believe their gods exists.


By your logic, every single person that doenst believe on the evil elite of the New world order conspiracies (almost every single person this universe) are helping them
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>>69727841

Yeah, sample of size of 1 planet. So how can you extrapolate that to the entire universe?
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>>69729519
>When humans realized Earth was not the center of the universe, it displaced humans place in the universe. When humans realized the Sun was not the center of the universe, it further displaced humans place in the universe. When humans realized the Solar system was not the center of the universe, it further displaced humans place in the universe. When humans realized the Milky Way galaxy was not the center of the universe, it further displaced humans place in the universe.
Load of shit. Even if it isn't a load of shit, it's supposedly happened multiple times before so what's the point in crying about it happening again?
> It means what happens on Earth doesn't really matter, it could happen anywhere.
Holy fuck the stupidity is amazing.
Did it happen anywhere? Do you live on pluto?
No you fucking retard.
You seem to think there's no point to life without religion while completely forgetting you have free will, go do something with it.
Are you literally living your entire life sucking up to some god that may or may not exist for the sole purpose of the fancy reward at the end that he may or may not give you? If you are then you're wasting the life you have.

>But theists could argue that God constructed the universe to incubate life:
Theists could argue your god is a faggot and their god is the one true god, then they could go for centuries fighting holy wars over whos god is real.
It doesn't really matter what theists argue, the reason they're theists is they believe in a god. That's not exactly going to change when they notice life on other planets.

>Stephen Hawking says we should fear intelligent aliens.
I know, reread the paragraph.
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>>69688596
>>69699247
>>69719290
>its BTFO time faggots

there is no HARD evidence there are many religous teachings tapot man ur a fukin kuk no1 has ever said taht there are teapots and then helpen inumerable people and had a massive liniage of belief ,why do you get out of bed die ur wife is being cuked dnt h8 the player hate yourself,pesemistic faggot fuk you
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