What's your opinion on euthanizing babies and people that are or near braindead, /pol/?
Also, Hartley Hooligans thread
Who gives a fuck op?
>>69528781
clearly not them
>>69528725
>>69528725
I believe that any future treatment or care for a deformed baby should be paid for out of the parent or guardians pocket to avoid raising rates on healthy young americans. Same thing with the elderly when they reach a certain age. No money, no treatment.
Literally meeting standards so to keep life.
It makes life a privilege rather than a right.
>>69528725
They should be put in burlap sacks and thrown in the river.
I honestly think it's insane not to. I'm very liberal, but once you reach such a stage of severe mental retardation it ceases to be a real person.
I'm not talking about people with Down Syndrome, who are clearly capable of self-interest, a sense of identity, etc. (IQ 55-65). Those people clearly have a right to life. I'm talking about people who are incapable of even having a concept of identity, self-interest, etc.
If you cut off one of the Hartley Hooligans' fingers, they wouldn't notice, and if they reacted at all it would be a purely physiological reaction, with no mental component whatsoever. Keeping them alive isn't helping them, because there's no one there. It's just pouring resources into this shitting little machine. Their mother might as well be raising a couple Cabbage Patch dolls
We should be using them for experimentation along with the mentally retarded. Use gene therapy or cybernetics on them.
What is the definition of self awareness? If it isn't sell aware at some point then it isn't human in my opinion and therefore does not deserve rights.
>>69530169
So you would kill most niggers with an average IQ of 54-65?
>>69530266
Down syndromes are fucking cool and have low iq. If they are smart enough to work and be productive then yes. If they are the two """""humans""""" op posted then no
>>69530424
There are some downies that are functional to work menial jobs like a bagger at a grocery store.
Then there are the ones that are incapable of moving around, can barely function, need constant care, etc.
>>69528725
Why do you hate those two kids so much you post about killing them every few days?
I have a cat. I'm not going to off it just because it's stupid. Stop hating on people's pets.
>>69530825
Your cat functions at a higher cognitive level than those girls. Calling those girls stupid is like saying Stephen Hawking can't run very fast.
>people in this thread think people have the right to be alive
Yea, no. Maybe a government declares that life is a right, but as a life form living is not a right.
>>69531047
Societies literally form out of the need for mutual assistance for survival. It is a fucking right, you retard.
>mfw hearing that word when I was like 7 and thought it was Youth in Asia
>>69530970
They move somewhat. That places them fairly high as far as life goes.
>>69528725
I am in favor. I don't consider babies born with microcephaly to be actual human beings. The brain is where our consciousness resides, and our consciousness makes us whole human beings.
>>69528725
I want to know where we got the idea that we, humans, get to decide which humans are human and which humans aren't human.
Why do I get to decide that? Why do I get to look at another living, breathing human being and decide "YOU DO NOT DESERVE TO LIVE"? Who gave me this power?
>>69531161
There isn't a need for it. It just so happens that it has been beneficial. But humans will probably end up killing themselves anyway, and at that time people will understand that civilization was a mistake
>>69531161
stop being autistic
If life is a right, then people owe you food and healthcare and shelter. Which means you have a right to peoples resources.
And in the end you die anyway.
fucking retards, you should have been aborted m8
>>69531387
if they have higher brain activity or not
eg stephen hawking has an ordinary mind his body is just fucked
those tendie freaks in OP are literally stupider than a rat because they can't even make eyecontact
although they dont seem to be in distress so no real reason to put them down
>euthanizing babies and people that are or near braindead
>not all degenerates
>>69531387
hawking has a brain and has contributed to society through books and shit, also wasn't always a cripple
those things are literally brainless, they run off instincts alone and will never contribute anything to society
>>69530643
>Most nigs can't get job
>Are violent unlike people with downs
>And most negro men leave there niglets
>Need constant care from the government
>at least they can walk... To get them welfare
wtf, did their parents know they were going to be like this? are those kids even aware of their own existence?
>>69531622
Does the government give their parents money to help take care of them?
If all the money comes from their parents who cares. If they want to keep their kids alive let them. Not having a conscience doesn't stop you from being a human.
ATTENTION! ATTENTION!!
Is there any way we can trick black people into posting OPs photo with a derogatory hash tag against white people?
What's a good hashtag to get negros to post this photo? I want them to be like "and they call us gorillas?" Or something
>>69528725
Parents and relatives can choose to keep the tomatoes alive, but they'll have to pay out of pocket. No government or state assistance should be provided to them. The same goes to to all children born with disabilities. Currently, a child born with a disability is eligible fir social security benefits and will live off social security for his/her whole life while not having paid a penny into it.
>>69528725
Those things are proof, in my opinion, that eugenics is not a pseudoscience. If they've had more than one of those abominations than it's clear that there's something defective with their genes. If we would just take preemptive measures and sterilize these people before they can breed more the world would be so much better off.
>>69531387
Functional humans get to decide because there is no one else to decide these things. It's our privilege to judge and manipulate the world around us, because we can. It would be foolish to leave our fates in the hands of whatever gods or Nature has in store for us.
>>69531873
Yes, they continue to have these things even though they know they'll be freaks, and thus collect taxpayers money to pay for them.
>>69531928
Do this
>>69531873
The doctors told them they had a 25% chance of it happening again and they decided to take the chance.
>>69528725
My uncle has a kid like this. He's 4 right now, and they always make me hold him. It weirds me out. If it were my kid, I wanna say I'd post-birth abort it, but hearing my uncle talk about how his brain dead kid is "pure innocence and love" makes me understand why someone wouldn't get rid of it. I mean, not understand, but empathize.
>>69531590
>>69531622
You sound like the people who argue that newborn babies aren't human because they're not intelligent enough. You do realize that when you say these things about another human being, you may as well be saying them about YOURSELF, right? You are a slip and a fall away from becoming a retarded vegetable. Where does the killing stop? If I don't have a job, should I be killed? Or does human life only have value in that it is useful to other human life? And why is your life so fucking important? Why the fuck should I care about delaying your inevitable death so much that I should die for you?
>>69528725
>>69531622
>never contribute anything to society
The people taking care of them seem to love them. They therefore provide them with pleasure by merely existing.
When wild animals have deformed babies they leave it for dead. This process of survival of the fittest is what created life as we know it.
We could learn a thing or two from nature.
>>69532338
I don't know what side you're arguing for, but the comatose/brain-dead/paralyzed shouldn't be kept alive with tax payer money. Let their families pay for their care, or wheel them to the bus stop and wish them luck.
>>69532520
So they have the same value a pet holds? I would prefer them getting a dog or cat instead.
>>69532643
I suppose the reason this pisses me off so much is because I, myself, am mentally disabled. I have ADHD and Obsessive Compulsive Disorder. I am broken. I am defective. Am I human?
Because you say so?
>>69528725
Boy, your brain privilege is showing.
>>69532750
they have a dog, it always stares at the two like somethings wrong
>>69532790
gross. you should have been put down.
>>69532790
>>69531282
What the fuck is wrong with these people?
Why am I laughing so hard?
>>69532851
Exactly the point I made here >>69532622
Animals know what's up
>>69532790
Down's Syndrome people aren't really that bad.
The people in OP's pic are fucked.
>>69531387
Stephen Hawking was the victim of a postnatal illness (ALS), before which he was completely normal. Those pinheads all over this thread were born that way.
>>69532622
I think people who advocate that people behave like animals should be treated like animals.
>>69528725
Sounds like a component of the Democrat party platform in 2020
>>69531928
Not everything revolves around black people anon
>>69532790
Congratulations, you have two extremely common disorders that won't impact your quality of life in any major way. As long as you can support yourself, you're fine. But if you walk into traffic to count the cracks in the road and end up paralyzed, I hope you have money saved up.
>>69533141
Sometimes it's healthy to get back to what's most natural. Humans don't always know best.
>>69532145
>>69532304
i am without words. i don't know if they are deeply religious or what, because otherwise i can't understand how someone could do something like this, willingly
>>69531387
>Who gave me this power?
Nature did anon.
>>69533180
Killing the very young and the very weak for profit does seem to be perfectly in line with the party ideals.
>>69532790
just stop eating processed foods. especially food coloring bullshit.
>>69528725
Morally, they're still people and we'd be taking life away from them.
Logically, they will only consume resources and give nothing back, in a world already suffering from overpopulation.
>>69533319
>>69533395
>appeal to nature fallacy
Unless you believe in God, that's not going to work. And if you do believe in God, I don't think God approves of the morally bankrupt "ends-justify-means" philosophy. But, then again, I'm stupid.
>>69528725
You should euthanize most people in Utero.
Back in the early days of civilization they'd just leave babies out in the woods. Infanticide is a practiced by every culture, hell, every species of animal on earth. It's a valid evolutionary strategy to prevent disgenics and escape the undue burden of fate.
>>69529107
>implying rights actually exist
>>69533803
>they're still people
debatable
>>69533810
It isn't an appeal to anything, it's a statement of fact.
Depends do i get to use a coat hanger
Fuck I hate retards. There are high functioning ones who know how to milk their shit for personal gains, then the others who are just violent or incapable of functioning. There was one who would just spit in people's faces all day when I was in grade school so I punched him in the face and got suspended. Never felt bad for a minute.
>>69533343
I don't understand these people who think "all life is sacred" or whatever. That thing is subhuman, quite literally. It will never amount to anything in life past consuming recources and making noise. These people should kept from producing these stains on society.
>>69533918
>Just do whatever feels good! Don't think! Animals don't think! Why should you?
![William-Burroughs1111600x300[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/lZOi9hU.jpg "William-Burroughs1111600x300[1].jpg")
>>69528725
They should be celebrated, as proof that there is no God.
From where I come from, such deformity would have been interpreted as a bad omen, and would have caused a ritual that begins on the highest mountain, making the creature roll across the plain
>>69530169
underrated rare
>>69534403
I like the cut of your jib.
>>69534148
>tfw hate humans
>tfw am human
Face it, you're a hypocrite. A lazy, whiny one, too.
>>69534349
Oh, what, haven't you heard? They're God's gift! A test of patience and virtue and abstinence from heavy drinking!
Fucking hell. The old man is up to some goddamn shenanigans up there.
>>69530169
Rare flag is right, can we really consider it as life at that point? They're just empty sacks of flesh that exist only to consume our food.
>>69534691
hahaha, "The asshole doesn't know what buttons to push or what happens when you push them! Abandon ship, God damn it every man for himself!"
>>69528979
Same thing when they reach old age? You're an idiot - and not just because I had to correct for your terrible typing of whatever goes on in your head. We all get old. Your argument for zero sympathy totally works if you had suggested for failing mental capacities or limited healthcare.
Try harder to be like me. And it's not all it's cracked up to be.
>>69534691
super fucking related:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smhbMzV570A
>>69534518
I would advocate to do, with a painless stroke , everything that nature has failed to make these millenniums thanks to the uncontrolled proliferation of the human being under the order of a misuse of technology and medicine . What would that accomplish? Achieve perfection.
What is perfection ? A complicated question. To summarize and not waste time while reflecting on this, I would say in the first instance : the absence of imperfections. First , then, it will eliminate hereditary issues , which are , obviously and clearly flaws . And this does not mean to kill anyone, genocide, euthanize anyone or anybody, but to intervene to achieve conception of human beings of high biological quality . This can happen for all sorts of measures , from promoting a healthy culture , well and feed the pregnant mother , to improve male semen quality and preventing pregnancies that will result in impaired beings.
>>69534757
agreed, apart from the obvious societal costs and emotional/physical costs on the caretaker, isn't it medically unethical to just let something without autonomy suffer, and even worse intentionally prolong its suffering to make ourselves feel better?
bump, because I have a lot to say about retards. Once supervised some MONSTERS that poked out their eyes, beat all the hearing out of their ears. They wanted to die, but lacked the ability, so they pushed on neck arteries, to escape their simple minded Hell. True story.
>>69535328
My state was sterilizing bad seeds up until the '70s. It was the right thing to do. Many retard are in terrible pain and confusion, feebly trying to do themselves in, but lacking the grey matter to do so.
/shit, I'm getting all wordy and artsy fartsy. Feels good. Identifying RVs, like THE Boss.
>>69531268
Jellyfish can move. Does that make them high up?
>>69533395
>whole world is an altar.
BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD
>>69532454
Always makes me Kek.
Bump, because they are all cared for by low education Mexicans here. Bump, because one of them was in his 20s, and looked like Eddie Munster, and pissed and shit(his language) when he wasn't running his head through sliding glass doors.
>>69535531
I don't know why but this post was fucking hilarious to me, quality diction lad
>>69528725
>>69528841
>>69528781
the taxpayer.
My sis has a liver problem, she needed a transplant, fine, she can go on 20 more years...
These 'people' (sic. Adelia Rose) will never contribute anything to society.
Why is eugenics frowned upon???
Bump, because the fat one just masturbated, in the group home, on walks to the store(they need to be a part of society), all the time, beating off. And ALL of them required, by law, a real human within arms reach. The Mongo would just fall on his back, anywhere he felt that feel. NO FUCKING WAY you could stop him, because he was big, and well fed. So we just carried around a blanket to shelter kids from what was happening under said blanket. Right in the fucking major grocery store. Send them, peacefully, to the next place. I pray to God that they get some smarts there. "I wish the retarded, were resmarted." It was so hard tending to them, punched this one dude many times. He would act nice, and punch and kick the shit out of you. FUCK YOU, BR***. You fucking neck pressing tard.
>>69537056
>And ALL of them required, by law, a real human within arms reach.
Oops, TWO humans, within arms reach, to stop them from going ape. One human, within arms reach when they were sleeping. And you pay for that.
Bump, because I was the only English speaker in the place, because they just watched Univision all day, and you pay for that. Some of the tards used to have a 200 word vocabulary. They just grunted then, because they never learned Spanish.
Downs people are cool, but you cucks never see the dark side of that INDUSTRY.
>>69536983
>Why is eugenics frowned upon
Becus muh feelings and everyone is a special miracle.
>>69537960
How did this happen anon...
>>69528725
Yes; the Spartan practice of exposing defective infants should be revived.
>>69528725
IMO its more humane to euthanize extremely disabled or handicapped people rather than have them suffer through life as an outcast, who no matter what they do will NEVER be able to adapt to normal life or survive on their own.
Yes its sad and may seem heartless at first but it seems like us keeping people like this alive is purely self interest/inflating your own ego
>>69528725
they just hog money, die early and contribute next to nothing to the world.
gas them
Oh, and the 20 something that looked like Eddie Munster, was putting ALL of his energy into eating his own tongue and lower lip. At one point, both were just hanging by a thread. He hated me... He would somehow figure out that I was in charge of him for the night, and curl his index finger at me, and piss himself(knowing I had to mop it up), and laugh and laugh. Fuck you, Eddie Munster/Judge Napolitano looking 20 something waste of tissue!
>>69538283
Is that Scott Stapp?
![DarkTower_Harlan[1].png_format=750w.png](https://i.imgur.com/XPeEu5w.jpg "DarkTower_Harlan[1].png_format=750w.png")
Oh, and they all fucking LOVED Tabasco sauce. I think it was as close as they could get to a real sensation. And all the illegals that I worked with were happy to provide it. They put it on everything. They put it on popcorn!
On a lighter note, someone was wasting their time trying to read to one of the mongoloids, so I got into the Steven King "Dark Tower" series. Great reads. Really looking forward to the long awaited flim version.
>>69532338
You do realize that the slippery slope argument is LITERALLY a fallacy, right?
Oh, and I ratted on some Mexican bitch that punched Eddie Munster. Nothing happened, but the... Mexicans never trusted me again, so I called immigration on the entire company, but immigration was being transitioned into DHS and I just got a voicemail. Nothing happened.
Oh, and I walked out with some lulz worthy pics. Ask nice, and I'll provide them for source memes.
>>69534556
I don't hate humans, I hate that certain humans are allowed to exist.
![241[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/okbvySW.jpg "241[1].jpg")
Drops mic:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFbdYRVGzR4
>>69531047
If you're gonna go that route, there are no rights at all.
>>69532338
I would certainly hope someone would pull the plug on me if I became a vegetable.
>>69528725
If the parent want to pay for their monsters out-of-pocket more power to them, they can spend their money however they want on the free market, but barely-animate lumps of flesh shouldn't be entitled to government services.
Mandatory euthanasia is dumb, you can't just decide something doesn't have a right to live. You CAN decide that something doesn't have a reasonable claim on taxpayer dollars or health insurance though.
>>69534556
Those things don't have enough brain cells to be conscious. Not a thought goes through their retarded heads.
What makes a person a person? Their personality, their thoughts, their consciousness. Those are the very essence of their being.
These things are the equivalent of house plants as far as mental faculties go. Some things shouldn't be kept alive, they serve no purpose. This family is a fucking freak show.
>>69540459
Fair enough. Many of the 'tards I saw would be dead without gov support, from infection or simple, mechanical, self destruction.
>>69541130
But wouldn't it be more humane to send them off with a massive dose or morphine? The 'tards I saw were taking the slow and painful route.
>>69528725
We used to leave them to the wolves. Now we have the technology to solve the problem before it kills the mother.
>>69540459
But what if I believe someone who doesn't respect the 'lesser minded' is subhuman themselves?
Nothing personal, but some people don't believe in supporting your existence either.
I'm starting to think Margaret Sanger was right about some things.
>>69531282
so they pooled seth mcfarlane, joe rogan, and paul rudd DNA together to make a hybrid, and it plays super mario with retarded babies
neat
>>69541504
>But what if I believe someone who doesn't respect the 'lesser minded' is subhuman themselves
Well, then you're free to go back to r/eddit where your mental retardation is encouraged.
>>69541504
>But what if I believe someone who doesn't respect the 'lesser minded' is subhuman themselves?
I know you weren't addressing me, but some "people" are truly monsters. They aren't like Corky, or the hot Downs teen that likes boys and touching down there, they aren't happy, they want to die.
>>69534304
>have the little retar- I mean, ANGELS anyway!
>Why work a day in YOUR life to support them, goyim? Taxpayers will do that for you!
>Need more shekels? Make videos of them and ask for money!
>Their innocence will deliver!
>THEY don't seem to bothered! If you look at them from a certain angle, they're smiling! You are a GOOD parent, goyim!
Really. Why would you want to inflict YOU WILL on someone that has popped out both their eyes, beat 100% hearing out of one ear, and 70% out of the other, and spends ALL WAKING HOURS trying to cut off blood flow to a tortured "brain." It's cruel to stop him, and that's what me and a pack of illegals did all day and night, on your dime.
We were really imposing our(societies) will on "him."
Humans kill animals that are in pain.
>>69541504
You can live in your little feel-good fantasy world all you want, but there's no excuse for spending taxpayer dollars on the care of a child that came out of the womb literally incapable of higher brain functions. They're mentally equivalent to a plant, or maybe some bugs if we want to insult the intelligence of bugs.
>>69543491
that's my stance on it
the parents can keep their useless patato fed on their own dime but not on my tax money
>>69528725
>Hartly Hooligans
It's Spartly Spooligans, did you not get the memo?
