Russians are finally getting some good news. Minimum wage is going up by 20%.
Russia's Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev said pay for low wage workers will go up to 7,500 rubles a month ($109) in July, from the current 6,204 rubles a month ($90).
Taкиe cюжeты peдки, нa зaпaдe пpocтыe люди нe пpeдcтaвляют, чтo в PФ минимaльнaя зapплaтa нижe aфpикaнcкoй в 3-4 paзa
https://twitter.com/CNN/status/714830296454180865
make excuses Savushkina
Putin Great go our country in collapse
Where fappers on Great Saviour of Whites?ĺ
>>69334219
Ded thred.
Isn't the motherland in crisis due to the oil flooding the market?
>>69334219
kek i have 2 maids and they both make more than russian minimum wage.
>>69334219
Tell me, how can a country have a Prime minister and a President?
the Ukrainians, the Belarus, Moldovans, Kazakhs the same shit with salaries, and in Turkmenistan the minimum wage in the region of 15,000 rubles.
>>69334219
Okay cool.
>>69334219
Russian needs National Socialism
In large cities there is a shopping network discounts-promotions-sales. And in the village there are a couple of shops, where the price of both the ruble and the range is small. Booze is more expensive, everything more expensive.
>>69334219
Why do you have a Prime Minister and a President? I'm confused, Ivan.
It's not about Trump or some new "happening", so I'm afraid your thread is out of luck.
Good news for Russia and Russians though, if he can pull it off considering the state of the Russian economy.
>>69334724
pm=head og government
president is head of state and its mostly a ceremonial role if a country has a pm
The United States is a Federal state, like Russia.
In the US there are both Federal and regional, local and other.
The average size of regional budgets in the Russian Federation in the region of 1 billion dollars in the U.S. is ten times higher.
The size of the GDP of the state of new York above the entire GDP of Russia.
I'LL BREAK YOU ZALUPKI
BUT IT'S NOT ALL BAD!
The Moscow budget comparable with the budget of the city of new York.
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Overpayment on the mortgage on the average 300% in Russia.
Why Luxembourg % mortgage rates below, almost 30 times?
>>69334856
The prime minister is the second person in the state, ministerial leader.
Putin is not a God he just sucks and the official who rose to the top by accident. After the fall in oil prices all his authority crumbles like a house of cards. To compare Putin and trump's really stupid because trump even participated in debates with other candidates as opposed to Putin.
~30K on the chemical plant operator 3rd net harm (4), the packers are at 12-15, since the early 2000s listed as temporary, contract and lengthen all the happiness complete pants because the larvae of hunger, Marli. If not the garden who knows, maybe dead would
>>69334219
Man, they don't get paid much at all.
What if a tourist from Australia went to Moscow or somewhere with a lot of money saved up? Are they basically treated like royalty?
Vodkabros, aware me.
I can't wait to see Russia collapse that will trigger a new civil war that will result in getting Russian people and their shit midas culture buried six feet under senpaitachi. It's already on life support and won't sustain economically much time in the future.
Убoгий зaбeг дaжe пo мepкaм пopaши.
Пpoкcи- cвинo тpeд?
Пpoкcи cвинo тpeд.
>>69335286
>What if a tourist from Australia went to Moscow or somewhere with a lot of money saved up? Are they basically treated like royalty
Pfft, Moscow is like top 5 overpriced cities in the world. You're lucky if they speak broken English, most likely that they won't speak English at all and give you a "fuck off" attitude.
Russian Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev has set in the fourth quarter of 2015 the cost of living in 9.452 thousand. Rub., It was reported on the official website of legal information.
The subsistence minimum in comparison with the previous quarter was reduced by 2.28%.
"Set the value of the subsistence minimum in Russia as a whole for the IV quarter of 2015 per capita 9452 rubles for able-bodied population - 10187 rubles, pensioners - 7781 rubles, children - 9197 rubles", - said in a statement.
The minimum subsistence level for the third quarter in the whole of Russia was 9673 rubles.
Earlier it was reported that the results of 2015 the number of poor Russians exceeded 19 million.
>>69335389
>>69335404
>this makes pidorashkies feel uncomfortable
>>69334219
>Russians are finally getting some good news. Minimum wage is going up by 20%.
Why exactly is that good news?
>>69335514
Who cares? I live pretty comfortably. Peasants were always poor.
>>69334914
>the whole country is desperately poor except for moscow which has a world-class budget
Wow, that's actually really sad.
>>69335571
It's not really news. Russian /pol/ is just paying you a visit.
>>69335656
But what's good about it? If the country is poor isn't it just going to put people out of work?
>>69334724
When you're neither a shitty constitutional monarchy nor a FREEDOM wannabe, you have both. "Semi-presidential republics" and "parliamentary republics" have both of them.
>>69334219
FINALLY RUSSIANS ARE AS POOR AS WE ARE
THANK YOU PUTLET
>>69335463
9452 rubles ~120$
This allows you to not die from hunger, eating the cheapest food, and to pay for heating. If you are lucky, you will be able at the end of the month to buy some pants or a pair of socks.
>>69335585
>Who cares? I live pretty comfortably.
Do you even have an AC in each room, let alone having your own house and a car? Unless you live in Siberia congrats on being poor.
inb4 your ID has a word hoBo in it
>>69335761
10/10 keks
>>69334219
Same here vodka bro,welcome to the est!
>>69335723
I'm always astonished how rewards continue to believe this Jewish meme despite the evidence showing its simply not true.
>>69335905
This is the part where you convince me of your position.
Why is Russia so poor
Doesn't it basically have the same climate challenges as Canada
The Russians aren't technological retards, they invented many things in the Soviet era
They need to get their act together and stop queuing up for bread
>>69335723
It's not welfare, and it has little to do with actual wages too, just bureaucrats re-adjucting some numbers. Basically it's non-news.
>>69335761
Russia is rich, most of people here earn 500$ per month and prices are very low at all, for example, I give 7$ for Internet per month while John give 60$ per month.
>>69335872
>Do you even have an AC in each room
Yes
> let alone having your own house
Yes
>and a car
Yes.
Stay mad, /po/, for all your hatred of Russia and contempt of average Russians you are still poor and too dumb to even emigrate to your holy West.
The Ministry of Labour calculates the unemployed on the basis of the Employment Service data. According to this calculation, in Russia 1.06 million registered unemployed. Rosstat uses the methodology of the International Labour Organization. According to Statistical Office data, the country's 4.4 million unemployed, or 5.8 percent of the economically active population - they include those who are actively looking for work, but not registered in the employment service.
This understated official figures. In reality, the unemployed and a half to two times more.
>>69336033
>Update
>>69336033
http://www.ibtimes.com/russians-living-poverty-rise-nearly-22m-amid-inflation-falling-wages-2090650
A high minimum wage isn't really a good thing. Australia has one of, if not the, highest minimum wages in the world and insanely high cost of living as a result.
>>69336289
>http://www.ibtimes.com
propaganda
>>69335952
>The Russians aren't technological retards
But they are. There aren't even basic rainwater drainage on most of the streets in Moscow making everything covered in mud every time it rains.
>>69336045
It must be hard to keep your imaginary world from falling apart since statistically odds are that you are poor commieblock-dwelling pidorashka ready to die from HIV.
>>69336365
>statistically odds are
Wew, imagine that!
How does it feel knowing I live comfortable, having significant amount of money both on deposit in Russian banks and invested in Western stocks and bonds, plus working a nice low-pressure job, and being a patriot of Russia, while you have to struggle both with poverty and with self-hatred? Assuming you aren't just a hohol of course, always, always assuming.
>All these Olgino shills tears ИTT
>>69336352
>69336352
Almost one in every seven Russians is now living in poverty, according to official data published Wednesday. In the first six months of 2015, the number of Russians living below the minimum income of 10,017 rubles ($147) a month grew to 21.7 million people -- an almost 15 percent increase from the same period last year, according to data from state statistics agency Rosstat, cited by the Moscow Times.
However, the Moscow Times report added that the effective poverty rate is likely to be far higher than the official figure.
More than 15 million economically active Russians today do not work officially. Such an assessment voiced by the deputy head of the Labor Agency Mikhail Ivankov.
Total in Russia there are almost 76 million economically active citizens. Thus, every fifth of them are not officially employed.
Working informally, the employee and the employer saves. Social contributions and income taxes eat up to 47% of the allocated money on wages. All contributions paid by the employer and not the employee.
>>69334219
Woah those sanctions are doing wonders
The only thing I'm fucking getting now is expensive as fuck gas
>>69336682
It's pretty sad, most of them are probably old people, and their pensions barely conver their living expenses. However that's how it always was post 1991.
>>69336782
What could Communism possibly do for that other than giving misleading stats and pretty words?
>>69336861
Reasonably comfortable retirement for everyone.
>>69336553
>How does it feel knowing I live comfortable, having significant amount of money both on deposit in Russian banks and invested in Western stocks and bonds, plus working a nice low-pressure job, and being a patriot of Russia, while you have to struggle both with poverty and with self-hatred? Assuming you aren't just a hohol of course, always, always assuming.
>and being a patriot of Russia
Kek, weren't you just saying that Russia is a shithole that always were poor and the majority of the Russians are incapable retards that are good for nothing in an attempt to poke at liberals that are too stupid they can't emigrate and yet you present yourself as a patriot? There are some major fallacies in your podzalupniy shilling.
>>69336782
GDP per capita
$5,800 (1982 est.) (Nominal; 32nd)
$9,130 (1991 est.) (PPP; 33rd)[4]
How can you ignore reality, numbers, and facts for fancy words?
>>69336911
You don't need Communism for that.
>>69334219
Hang oligarchs.
>>69336553
>I'm a rich successful Russian with shitload of money
>Better go on Vietnamese cartoon discussion site to tell everyone about that!
There's a reason Soviets built a wall separating non conquered people from the conquered people, people would document the reality and not the words.
hm, some people never learn.
>>69334724
The President is the head of the state. The PM is the head of the government
>>69336782
South Africans live better lives than Soviet Citizens.
>>69336917
Sure, Russia was never as rich as Europe or US and never will be, unless they are physically wiped out. World markets have been divided long ago, and will stay that way. Plus Russians always sucked in business.
Doesn't change the fact that you worship everything Western while being poor and too dumb to emigrate. If you emigrated that would at least be a consistent position worthy of some respect. As it is, you are just pathetic.
>>69336971
Still, in USSR that was the way, and now we don't have that.
>>69337223
Then implement it, start building factories and get everyone back to production.
>>69337079
First time I ever mentioned it.
I go here because I like talking with people from different countries, especially about politics and cultural differences. Name a better site for that.
>>69334219
>minimum wage is China is around 200$
>your minimum wage is literally lower than the Chinese one
http://mobile.lemonde.fr/economie/article/2014/08/06/la-chine-releve-le-salaire-minimum-pour-dynamiser-la-consommation_4467453_3234.html
>>69337292
For that we would need to close our markets, otherwise our industry will not survive competition with cheap imported stuff.
That means a whole different set of issues.
>>69336782
>and their pensions barely conver their living expenses. However that's how it always was post 1991.
Average pension of Soviet agricultural workers was 35 rubles/month in 1980. It's around $80 in modern food prices. Talk about barely covering living expenses. Oh wait, they are not proletariat. Fuck them dirty peasants.
>>69337223
>Sure, Russia was never as rich as Europe or US and never will be, unless they are physically wiped out. World markets have been divided long ago, and will stay that way. Plus Russians always sucked in business.
So, you are doing a loser's rationalization why they suck on behalf of your own country now? Doesn't sound very patriotic. Perhaps you should at least try to fix the current situation investing in Russian stock market or starting your own business? Don't forget to also take a loan in rubles, banks need your help too.
>Doesn't change the fact that you worship everything Western while being poor and too dumb to emigrate. If you emigrated that would at least be a consistent position worthy of some respect. As it is, you are just pathetic.
t. hypocrite cuck
>>69337292
We would, but our country is ruled by libshits who don't care about anything but filling their pockets with money and paying shills to tell how great modern Russia is.
And yes, Pu is one of them no matter how hard he tries to make himself look like a "strong" leader.
>>69334767
Are you in a cave or smth? They have it for the last 15 years
>>69337373
>For that we would need to close our markets, otherwise our industry will not survive competition with cheap imported stuff
Why pidorashkas can't compete again? Subhuman genes, self-decieveing and low intelligence I presume and you are being a fine example of that.
>>69334219
A forced minimum wage isn't good for anyone
>>69337373
>having wages literally lower than in China
>industry still can't compete
>>69337744
Not every explanation is a "rationalization", hard as it might be to believe for a /po/ regular. Russia and Russian people have many admirable qualities, but sustaining a high individual wealth level and being good at commerce isn't one of them. Or were you under the impression that being a patriot means blindly believing your country and people are perfect? Not at all, that's another projection, since you yourself blindly believe the opposite.
As for my own actions - ha, even if I was some kind of oligarch it wouldn't make any difference, and by Western measures I'm just solidly middle class. I choose my actions by their consequences, not by "principles" like abstract patriotism.
>>69334219
Wages mean nothing Dimitri.
Average wage in Serbia is 350 euros
Living in Russia beats living in Serbia any time of the year.
I pass through both quite often.
Even fucking Belarus has better living standards.
>>69337942
Because a Russian will never work as cheaply as a Chinese slave, or with a quality of a German worker.
Russians perform best in large scale unique projects, especially if ideologically motivated. Which is why our defense industry, nuclear industry, aerospace and such are fully competitive. But mass produced quality consumer goods we struggle with. Fact of life.
When the price of oil fell, prices of all goods rose a half to two times in 2 years. Pensions increase once a year at 4% and inflation of 12-15% per year.
>>69338399
>prices of all goods rose a half to two times in 2 years.
>inflation of 12-15% per year.
Do you know definition of inflation?
>>69338331
You Kremlin propagandist value of 15 rubles per post.
>>69338331
>Russian defence industry
>Lost 2 wars to mountain sandniggers
>Planes being shot down by turkroaches
>Retreated from Syria after 6 months of bombing snackbars while achieving almost nothing
>competitive
Ivan pls
>>69338570
>>69338688
Brilliant rebuttals on the level of a mildly retarded 8 year old, never change, /po/.
>>69338688
>Retreated from Syria after 6 months of bombing snackbars
Russia didn't retreat from Syria. Bombers stayed and do 40-50 combat flights per day.
>>69338112
>Russia and Russian people have many admirable qualities
Like what? Knitting matroshkas?
>but sustaining a high individual wealth level and being good at commerce isn't one of them
>DON'T TELL ME I'M A LOSER I'M JUST NOT GOOD AT A PARTICULAR TASK NO ONE EVEN NEEDS TO PERFORM I'M ACTUALLY GENIUS BY MY OWN STANDARDS
Literally (you). There isn't more universal metric than economics to judge a country's well-being.
>>69338331
>Because a Russian will never work as cheaply as a Chinese slave, or with a quality of a German worker.
Let the currency inflate more and you'll have a Chinese sweatshop performance
>Which is why our
>defense industry
No match to the US military complex, good for selling crap to the 3rd world.
>nuclear industry
Too regulated, low competition.
>aerospace
Not for long.
>But mass produced quality consumer goods we struggle with. Fact of life.
>implying it's even a thing if you go beyond the screwdriver assembly
>>69338331
>Because a Russian will never work as cheaply as a Chinese
See >>69337372
>>69338898
>Like what?
Bravery and endurance. Being able to forgive, and fundamental lack of cruelty. Being able to produce a world-level culture, contribute massively to world literature, music, arts. Individual intellectual ingenuity in many areas. Being surprisingly tolerant of others, considering our history. Being capable of self-reflection, on the level unmatched by most others.
You entire argument, on the other hand is "If you are so smart, why are you so poor?"
Because of reasons.
>Let the currency inflate more and you'll have a Chinese sweatshop performance
Yes, like it ever happened in Russian history.
Russians by mentality are incapable of matching that kind of work.
The rest of your post is pure drivel.
>>69339261
Being cannon fodder and raw material colony in all world empires is good?
>>69339522
It is regrettable.
>>69338799
>Facts do not exist because they hurt my patriotic feelings
+11.80
>>69338864
Still, Russian presence there does little difference. Assad did gain clay in the center of the country, but lost some in the south.
The only ones who had any real territorial gains are Kurds.
>Pic related, Syria in October 2015 and now
>>69339653
Do you honestly believe your "trolling" is funny, or actually causes "butthurt" in others?
I realize the level of /po/ is flinging shit at each other, but if that's all you are capable of doing, it's just sad.
>>69339261
>Bravery and endurance. Being able to forgive, and fundamental lack of cruelty. Being able to produce a world-level culture, contribute massively to world literature, music, arts. Individual intellectual ingenuity in many areas. Being surprisingly tolerant of others, considering our history. Being capable of self-reflection, on the level unmatched by most others.
Idealistic bullshit. What you have there en mass is crab in the bucket mentality that has been destroying and kept dragging down everything that was good about Russia. Speaking of culture Russia hasn't been relevant worldwide since the early 20th century.
>You entire argument, on the other hand is "If you are so smart, why are you so poor?"
Then you align yourself with overpopulated African shitholes and their unique culture. Daily reminder that their average IQ is below 90 and they live in mudhuts. Yeah, nothing to do with being smart either.
>The rest of your post is pure drivel.
Nice rebuttal. Keep denying that you're noncompetitive with muh armatas and muh ISS delivery service that keeps crashing satellites.
>russian liberals prefer to shitpost on finnish cartoon board instead of moving to their "european" or "american" heaven.
pathetic t b h
>>69339869
Say "Chechnya is awesome!"
>>69334219
So could somebody in AUS who clears 6k AUD a month (312,263 ruble) live a decent life in Russia? Say if I brought over 300k AUD? The scenery looks so awesome in Russia being a humongous country and all.
Also besides bears, is there any animals I need to be worried about? How easy is it to get guns and hunt? How do russkies view australians because most ppl I know think they are bro tier being fellow alcoholics.
>>69339989
Better than you. At least they love their home and people.
>>69339989
I think "Chechnya rulez" is more appropriate translation.
>>69334767
Its what Putin gave Russia after he and the rest dismantled the soviet union.
>>69334715
>>69334219
The absolute value of the wage is pretty irrelevant.
How much does food etc cost there?
$10 will cover much more in taiwan than in the uk
>>69340113
When the minimum wage is that low its fucking obvious most food would be cheap.
>>69335882
wow, le Linux man has pilot license?
>>69339821
>Idealistic bullshit.
Another sparkling rebuttal. You asked which qualities of Russian people I find admirable, and I answered. Turns out, anything slightly above the level of pure material consumption is "idealistic bullshit" for you. Are you a Leninist by any chance? He used to have similar views on things and their relative importance in life.
>Speaking of culture Russia hasn't been relevant worldwide since the early 20th century.
Yes, pop culture is not our strong side.
But since your only criteria of cultural achievment would be the commercial success of said culture, only pop culture matters for you, of course.
>Then you align yourself with overpopulated African shitholes and their unique culture.
If there was an African power that achieved what Russia did and had a comparable influence on mankind as a whole, then yes, I would agree with you readily.
>Keep denying that you're noncompetitive with muh armatas and muh ISS delivery service that keeps crashing satellites.
What about Armata?
And feel free to post the number of crashes in our space program, together with launch costs, compared with the same numbers by other countries. Let's see if our cost/risk ratio is that incompetitive.
>>69340018
Over 312 thousand, you can go anywhere. But it is better to keep the tourist routes, because there is a chance of becoming a victim of burglary without an accompanying guide.
Locals may be aggressive, particularly minorities. I recommend to visit Siberia. Baikal, Kamchatka.
>>69337079
its the topic of discussion you dip
>>69339801
>can't refute anything
>better start accusing opponent in trolling
>>69340018
300K/month is pretty much oligarch-tier in Russia.
IIRC, members of our Duma earn about 400K per month and they are universally hated by average Russians, who consider their salaries to be extremely unfairly high.
>>69334219
>raising minimum wage
>good news
Ivan, when will you learn
>>69340515
>can't refute anything
Can't refute what?
Since everyone by not has admitted RF operation in Syria has been an impressive success, the only reason for your post is trying to troll with stupidity.
You expected serious detailed rebuttals to that?
>>69340018
>So could somebody in AUS who clears 6k AUD a month (312,263 ruble) live a decent life in Russia?
Yes.
>is there any animals I need to be worried about?
Stray dogs.
>How easy is it to get guns and hunt?
Impossible to own guns for foreigner. But you can rent for hunt there is plenty firms providing such services though it will cost ya.
>How do russkies view australians
Russians are very tolerant to all. Even if you are churka they mostly just mumble offences behind your back without any actions. White foreigner will have zero problems.
>>69340050
>Better than you. At least they love their home and people.
Spoken like a true cuck. What a virtue to cheer for your conquerors pidorashka, you bet liberals do more harm to your shitty gulag-ridden frozen hellhole than nokhchas killing russian students and milking off your population. You'll make a good pair with Sweden.
>>69340226
I come here to shitpost not to hear your 15rub zalupka whining and asking for proofs?
>>69340757
>I come here to shitpost
Well at least you are honest.
Russians should rely on earning money trough transportation somehow because the country is the biggest in the world and there should be a way to travel around it or transport things across it.
Also, buying from local farmers and buying things and food made in Russia is something you were and will be forced sooner or later, better start now so that home production increases and improves.
The sanctions will be dropped and when they do, there wont be any need to import shit from eu when you can buy homemade shit, like a silent boycott or something.
In the meantime, the most disgusting pathetic beings that roam russia and call themselves liberals should be clubbed to death or sent out in their beloved eu or amerika where they can get handjobs for saying bad things about russia for the rest of their lives.
The oil will bounce back in the future, but nobody can tell when for sure, in the meantime, russians should be self reliant by the time that happens, oil helped only to get out of the hell from the 90s and early 00s.
More russians should be like that bald fat wide fellow in a suit jacket that goes around shops and breaks imported things as a sign of protest.
Pussyriot must be purged by other women, like get groups of Russian mothers with 3+ children that do parades instead of faggot parades, have them in 'good relations' with mothers of other tribes in Russia, like the muslim ones, the siberian ones, play it on emotions and patriotism.
Have the lazy ones suffer and starve.
You live on a large chink of Earth and you should learn to live like there is nobody else on the planet, so that when the niggers and jews from the west impose sanctions, you continue your own way and pretend that you are hurting.
All this has to be announced to the top first, with a wide media coverage.
Have the representatives of Russian mothers, farmers, freelancers, workers all in the same room with Putin, Medvedev, Kadyrov and others and a giant Russian flag behind them.
Have them listen.
Yawn, hohols are boring and dont even realize they just discredit themselves.
>>69340059
is this a dank russian meme or something
>>69340801
>Russians should rely on earning money trough transportation somehow because the country is the biggest in the world and there should be a way to travel around it or transport things across it.
That's a good point. Transportation by train won't be as cheap as by ship, but at least it can be competitive. I hope we continue to work with China on that. Unfortunately corruption and poor planning tend to ruin everything.
As for the rest, being self-sufficient is good, but becoming North Korea is no good.
>>69334735
Hello. I'm originally from Ukraine. Turkmenistan is a small country with no gypsy's. They rely on their gas exports. Russia can't. Keep in mind Ukrainian minimum wage is like 55 USD atm. And minimum wage has nothing to do with standart of a living. In a libertarian society there is no minimum
>>69340801
>Russians should rely on earning money trough transportation somehow because the country is the biggest in the world and there should be a way to travel around it or transport things across it.
Funniest thing ever spoken. Russians have no discipline, order and simply can't stop stealing anything that is not bolted to the rock. Starting from railroad loader ending by railroad CEO. Moving goods through Russian territory is a very bad idea. Based Gooks already build roads around Russia.
>>69340934
Chechens Group drew to a guy on the platform and hit him several times in the face.
Online video has appeared, as reported in the caption, Kadyrov's militants bullied in the vestibule of the train on the Russian guy claiming that he said that "Chechnya - cool."
It is noted that the video filmed friends of Chechen militants "Wild". Date and place of the shooting is unknown.
The footage can be seen as a guy who was smoking in Tambor, I received several blows in the face, and the people of the Chechen appearance laughed and mocked him. In the end, the guy has shown a sign of "peace" and said desired.
>>69340965
North Korea doesnt have much beneath its feet. Russia has more than enough for a continent.
The only thing missing in russia to do great things and have everyone hate it from jealousy is the will and motivation of the Russians themselves.
ITT
>>69340445
Yeah nah without sounding up myself I have no probs in fights and look intimidating as fuck according to others. I can walk through a park full of Abos without problems so I should be right hanging around a bunch of drunk slavs. At least I guarantee I would make a few worse off than I would be.
But I would rather more rural areas that are near larger towns, with good fishing and hunting area's. I have been looking at Montana USA, but Russia seems more red pilled plus I hate ethnics and Russia seems ethnic free except for muslims.
>>69341192
Don't talk in third person
Say "I don't have discipline"
"I steal everything not bolted down"
Or do you honestly think you are the special snowflake who is better than everyone?
Ivan, are there any places in your country that are friendly to burgers?
>>69341344
If you are an outdoors kind of person, I second the other anon's recommendation of Baikal and the rest. You could also check out Altay.
Just be sure to use lots of tick/mosquito repellent.
>>69341428
Burger hatred is a meme,
You shouldn't have any problems unless you are literally Obama.
If you do run into some retard, just say you are Canadian.
>>69341428
McDonalds
>>69340934
Yes. Meme is like Chechens have a habit of beating Russians and forcing them to say "Chechnya rulez" .
>>69341425
>It's a retarded leftist can't comprehend personal responsibility episode
>>69341425
>Or do you honestly think you are the special snowflake who is better than everyone?
>>69341530
Good to hear. I don't get the Russian hatred either, seems to be a meme leftover from the Cold War. Thinking bout visiting at some point because i have a bunch of money saved up.
>>69341425
>Aussies not knowing about russian mentality or Пoчтa Poccии's shenanigans
Oh, you lucky bastards...
so...but with minimum wage u got minimum illegal and economic migration
>>69341283
I can only imagine how frustrated Germans must be looking at Russia,
"These guys have everything, all the possibilities, all the resources, but they do nothing worthwhile with them! We would rule the world in their place!"
Though actually, they would fail. Russian mentality is a logical consequence of our environment.
>it's a ''russians are starving in the streets, we can't afford anything, and rouble compared to dollar is a fair way to compare economic security'' thread
>>69341739
Nah, it is just because Russia is a corrupt shithole. Canada has the same climate really as Russia yet they did just fine until DUDE WEED was elected.
>>69341344
>with good fishing and hunting area's.
>>69341455
>Baikal
>Altay
Guy knows the shit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRFDxrKZ3ic
>>69341739
Germany has already failed, we don't need further examples.
>>69341842
>What a virtue to cheer for your conquerors pidorashka,
Russia is doing better than you before DUDE WEED, and they're doing better than you right now.
The ''russians'' itt are a bunch of CIA shills with proxies who come here and create exact identical thread a couple of times a week.
Is some new peremoga happening right now? Whats with the activization of hohol trolls.
>>69341906
Are you that delusional Swede who worships Putin?
>>69341842
>Canada has the same climate really as Russia
Yeah, right.
Not to mention our situations are not comparable at all.
>>69341344
>montana
>flashbacks to Red October intenstifies
That is pretty white state, you have to remember that segregation is largely alive in america, the nigs stay in the large cities and white people have thier own areas. Hell, alaska is pretty whit with the exeption of the occasional american abo but an armed society is a polite one, as they say.
Though hunting in Russia is pretty great and they also don't have some of the more retarded american gunlaws if that's what you're into. Also cyrillic is annoying to learn and I really hope that russian cursive isn't as bad as the memes
>>69341881
I didn't really mean fail at conquering us (though that too), I mean they would fail at administering this territory. A country like Russia cannot be administered in the same orderly precise manner as Germany or other European country, it's impossible.
>>69341972
>delusional
>worships putin
Let me guess, 'not' bending over and accepting White Genocide at the hands of the U.S, EU and NATO means I ''worship Putin'' and I'm ''delusional'', because only ''crazy'' people would believe Europe is being invaded by africans and arabs, right?
>>69341739
>all the resources, but they do nothing worthwhile with them!
Like give them away to millions of imported welfare claimants and terrorists?
>>69341192
That attitude is the reason the biggest country on earth is shit. You are the problem too, not only the ones you cast the blame on.
It is YOU who has to change, YOU must change first in order to change others for better.
And when even the slightest good results are shown, a sea of others joins who are changed for the better as well.
That is how history is written
>>69342125
You're responding to a CIA shill who uses a russian proxy. See >>69341906
Their job is to literally create a thread identical to this a couple of times a month, usually they spam pictures of ''depressing russian commieblocks'', like 20-30 of them.
>>69340801
What you're not understanding is that the democratic owners of Russia do not want the majority being productive, if they were productive then they would no longer be able to be corrupt gibs me dats or excuses to stay in power, if Russians were growing their own fruits, do you think they would like if the government were to confiscate all their shit?
Russia has more land able to be grown than anywhere else in the world, more resources than anywhere in the world, it is purposely being put into a slave class by the same soviets of the past, only through the workers revolution can they be free from Marxism, a National Socialist Revolution.
The oligarchs want Russians to be dependment slave classes, not independent and sovereign.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jS4pmfLWiz8
>>69341994
>Not to mention our situations are not comparable at all.
Why not? Resource rich, wide ranging climates depending on seasons etc.
The main difference I see is political. Russia has no real history of things like an independent judicial system which means that because the pillars of the state are connecting they are corrupt. You have to have some level of separation. Russia's lack of development comes from this corruption, for instance investors do not want to put money into a country were bribery and the courts are not reliable.
>>69342123
Yeah, it is you.
>>69341995
>and I really hope that russian cursive isn't as bad as the memes
>>69342281
>Yeah, it is you.
Watch that edge, you might cut yourself with it. Why don't you reply to anything?
Why are you an anti-white?
Why do you want to exterminate the white race through massmigration of non-whites into white countries?
>>69342281
>Why not?
We are not alone on a big island with big brother US who takes care of us.
Well I don't know about you guys but I'd certainly rather live in Russia than Africa.
>Canada has the same climate really as Russia yet they did just fine until DUDE WEED was elected.
>And they did just fine
Remember, this is what the ''british'' (american psyops/jidf) shill wrote earlier in the thread, the same guy claiming Russia is a shithole. From this point on he'll claim he's not anti-white, while having posted earlier that Canada was ''doing fine'', despite suboptimal birth rates and massmigration of non-whites into Canada.
>>69342352
I don't, ask Putin why he has brought in so many Central Asians and Caucasus Muslims though.
>>69342390
Up until the 1930s Canada was considered as a possible frontline in a war between the British Empire and the USA.
>>69342449
>ask Putin why he has brought in so many Central Asians and Caucasus Muslims though.
He hasn't.
>I don't
Yes you do.
See >>69342447
Point proven.
>>69342449
>I don't
See >>69342447
>From this point on he'll claim he's not anti-white
>>69342447
>>69342477
Fine economically, I was not talking about social issues.
>>69342449
>Up until the 1930s Canada was considered as a possible frontline in a war between the British Empire and the USA.
I wish the worst that happened to Russia in that time period was being considered a possible frontline.
Daily reminder that if you support the U.S, EU and NATO, you're an anti-white.
Daily reminder that if you oppose thoe who oppose the U.S, EU and NATO, you're an anti-white.
Daily reminder that if you, like the ''british'' guy ITT, support the massmigration of non-whites into white countries, you're an anti-white.
>>69334219
>7,500 rubles a month ($109)
Are you really THAT poor? 2400€ is considered a mid-tier wage here.
>>69342546
Your own people's fault for empowering the Bolsheviks. If you had stuck with Kerensky you would have turned out fine.
>>69342542
Sorry, but how well economically a bunch of oligarchs and banksters are doing doesn't translate into the people of a nation ''doing fine economically''. White people have been deprived of economic status for the past decades in all white nations at the hands of World Jewry, and you know this. We have no jobs and no housing, and no good jobs to work anymore, all of this is taken from us and given to the non-whites you want to import into our countries.
>>69342283
no one actually writes like that, right?
>>69342583
If you actually think they make 109 dollars a month, you're falling for the lowest tier bait in the world.
>>69342625
I have no idea about Sweden but here in the UK in the 1980s my parents still had tin baths and outside toilets. Trust me when I say that the economy and the living standards in the West has most certainly improved with time.
>>69342559
So if you oppose ISIL, you're anti-White?
t. Achmed.
>>69342598
Bolshevik Revolution was a logical consequence of both strain from WW1 and previous wars, and a massive century-long campaign of subversion and terrorism against the state, supported in part by your country.
Check the numbers of government officials staughtered by terrorists in 19th-early 20th century, it was a massacre.
Kerensky was part of the problem.
>>69341344
It is best to buy ready-trip ticket. Australian money exchanged for US dollars - they can be exchanged at any bank in the Russian rubles. You can pay for individual services in dollars, especially in the cities.
Hunting is allowed in certain areas, fishing some fish species is prohibited. Hiking can be practiced almost anywhere.
>>69342744
ISIS is a creation of the U.S, EU and NATO. They're not bombed by them, they only pretend to bomb ISIS so idiots like you will fall for their propaganda and think they are fighting against ISIS and are therefore the ''good guys'', which they're not.
>>69342583
Thier tax burden and rent is relativly low and their food/ goods are largley domestic or from even weaker currency countries like China.
>>69338331
>russian aerospace industry
>competitive
Russia can't even figure out how to build an S-duct on their 'stealth' plane.
>>69342716
>I have no idea about Sweden but here in the UK in the 1980s my parents still had tin baths and outside toilets
Either a blatant lie, or they've been hiding in the forest ever since the saxon settlers over a thousand years ago.
And no, we're not better off today than yesterday, a year ago or ten years ago, every hour things grow worse for our race, as we're deprived of jobs, fair wages and housing opportunities, in virtually all western countries.
>>69340113
>>69340162
Nah, just people in countries like that live on level that is not able to desribe for a westerner.
You are not going on vacations, you are not buying new car, maybe 20yo car.
Your wage is so low that you have to choose if you are going to buy food, pay bills or buy gasoline.
>>69342239
Laborers of the world, unite under the banner of National Socialism, there will no longer exist someone in your community who doesn't know work.
The workers revolution will liberate the world, to arms!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=drAwiSG4slI
>>69343022
Do people on this board actually think russians are literally starving and have to choose between bills, food and gasoline?
Are you people really shills or just new here?
>>69342634
Well...
>>69343050
No more plunder of the peoples production.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1sEt3NjHNA
>>69342634
That's the way I was taught to write when I learned Russian.
>>69342782
>Making excuses for Bolshevism
This is why Russia fails.
>Bolshevik Revolution was a logical consequence of both strain from WW1 and previous wars
No, it was not. The French lost a greater percentage of men than Russia did yet they did not install Communists. The Germans lost a lot of men but they did not install Communists. People starved in Britain as well due to the Submarine war from Germany destroying shipping, but there was no Communist revolution in Britain.
>and a massive century-long campaign of subversion and terrorism against the state, supported in part by your country.
Britain and Russia were allies from 1905 onwards. Britain was also one of the countries which sent troops to support the Whites in the civil war. So please, don't blame it on us. It is was firmly a consequence of Russians deciding to support it.
>Check the numbers of government officials staughtered by terrorists in 19th-early 20th century, it was a massacre.
Mostly by Anarchists and Socialists. They also killed a US President and tried to kill Queen Victoria in this time period, it was quite unstable across the West.
>Kerensky was part of the problem.
He was pretty much a Social Democrat who was sharing power with liberals. Basically, Russia would have most likely developed into a pretty standard liberal democracy if he had not been deposed by Lenin.
>>69342850
>Either a blatant lie, or they've been hiding in the forest ever since the saxon settlers over a thousand years ago.
It is called the North of England and no, it was just terrible Victorian era housing in most of the city.
>>69343335
>It is called the North of England and no, it was just terrible Victorian era housing in most of the city.
Perfect argument as to why we enlightened westerners are ''doing much better economically'' than those filthy communist russians.
I'm off to eat now, while thinking about all those mythical starving russians in the streets of Moscow due to Warlord Putlers war taxes to finance the terrorist campaign in Syria, and laughing.
>>69343553
And it has improved massively in the last 25 years. Yes, immigration is a problem but lets not pretend that we do not have high living standards.
>>69343335
Bolsheviks during the revolution were overwhelmingly non-Russian, I don't have to make excuses for them.
>The French lost a greater percentage of men than Russia did yet they did not install Communists
The French had two revolutions at that point.
>The Germans lost a lot of men but they did not install Communists.
They had a failed Communist revolution ,and then they installed Nazis. An even shittier outcome.
>Britain and Russia were allies from 1905 onwards
This shit has been happening since mid-19th century at least, a situational alliance did not change anything.
Socialism was weaponized by European governments and used against each other, just like Islamic extremism has been weaponized by US in our day and age. If you study the terrorism in Imperial Russia, you will see countless links with our European rivals.
>He was pretty much a Social Democrat who was sharing power with liberals.
Social Democrats were part of the problem. Lenin's party was called "Social Democratic" ffs. It's all code words for the same subversion.
>>69343147
Petrol brand
92 95+
32.60 35.30
~ $ 0.45 ~ $ 0.50
gasoline prices in Novosibirsk
Oil Superpower!
>>69342838
>Thier tax burden
Full tax burden over wage is 47% in Russia (but only 29% if you receive income as corporate profit it is nice to be oligarch in Russia).
>and rent is relativly low
It is. Average rent for one room apartment is $150/month ($350 in Moscow).
>>69343775
>Social Democrats were part of the problem. Lenin's party was called "Social Democratic" ffs. It's all code words for the same subversion.
I am talking about it in the normal context, not the terms used by Lenin. He was on the rightwing of the SR party and abandoned the trudoviks to participate in a liberal government. He was hardly comparable to Lenin. I don't like his politics but to think they are comparable is a joke.
>The French had two revolutions at that point.
Yes, but they did not have one due to WW1 and they never installed Communists.
>They had a failed Communist revolution ,and then they installed Nazis. An even shittier outcome.
The Nazi victory was hardly inevitable and was caused by a failing of the non-Nazi parties to come to a deal to keep them out of power.
>Socialism was weaponized by European governments and used against each other, just like Islamic extremism has been weaponized by US in our day and age. If you study the terrorism in Imperial Russia, you will see countless links with our European rivals.
I agree, but it was not Britain doing it in the case of Russia. It was Germany which was doing it.
>This shit has been happening since mid-19th century at least, a situational alliance did not change anything.
It was hardly situational since they agreed to territorial divisions and spheres of influence as part of the deal. It was seen as a permanent thing.
>be America
>get my allies to shit all over an entire country, sanction it, spend a century vilifying and choking it from the inside out and from the outside in, ideologically, geopolitically and economically
>"wow what a shithole, but look how well our allies are developing! Clearly our model is the best, you should've stuck with us"
>>69342583
Average wage is $450.
Median is $300.
Yes we are poor now. 2008 looks like unbelievable dream today.
Given that ordinary Russians are now so low, the Russian authorities to lift the country from knees, you just need to sit tight and to avoid conflicts with the West, even to go to the concessions by the DNR and LNR - fuse them. Crimea could even leave, nobody gives a fuck. Then part of the Western production production from China will move slowly in Russia. Still need to make a working day of 12 hours, to allow employers to force their employees to work on weekends, also be allowed to use physical force in defiance, then after a few years will not know. MPs, I know that some of you sitting here, you have the recipe lift the country from knees.
>>69339261
>Being able to forgive, and fundamental lack of cruelty
>talking seriously
RUSSIANS GET OUT OF MOLDOVA REEEEEEEE
When it would seem that the ratings went down, Putin went with a trump.
B-O-O-O-GEEE TZARYA HRANI!
>>69343641
>Yes, immigration is a problem but lets not pretend that we do not have high living standards.
This is why everyone in this thread knows you're an anti-white.
The white race is being exterminated, and you're concerned about material luxuries.
>>69344514
The topic of this thread is material wealth.
>>69343848
>Average rent for one room apartment is $150/month ($350 in Moscow).
One room apartment in Sweden costs ~5M USD to buy, and rent is about 2000 USD.
>>69344053
>Yes, but they did not have one due to WW1 and they never installed Communists.
France was politically a more mature country at that point, and a long ally of UK, which made them less of a target for subversion.
> it was not Britain doing it in the case of Russia. It was Germany which was doing it.
It was both. The "Great Game" never stopped.
>It was hardly situational
Anyway even if we assume UK stopped its effort at subversion the moment an alliance treaty was signed, the process could not be stopped. Just like Afghan Islamists did not just relax and go home the moment Soviet forces left and American support ceased.
>>69344338
Production costs in Russia are such that even a 12-hour working day will not help. Heating, transport costs and corruption do most unprofitable industries.
>>69344567
What a convenient cop out.
>b-but we're not talking about that
Nothing else you say matters in the slightest, because you're an anti-white who wants to extermiante the white race through massmigration of non-whites into white countries.
Your angle of approach is enriching oligarchs and banksters through ''growth'' by importing massive amounts of labour, while the native population suffers and eventually ceases to exist. You're a globalist and you'll use any argument to diminish those opposed to your masters the U.S, EU and NATO.
>>69344573
>One room apartment in Sweden costs ~5M USD to buy
If this is true I'd never want to live in Sweden
So coll KAK SPASTY RASSIYU thread:3 And without kremlin bots and slivorossiyans...
>>69344720
You're a Nazi! Is it for grandfathers fought? Blood shed for you!
>>69344852
And that was an average from looking at housing costs past few days. Note that the 5M USD was for a SINGLE ROOM APARTMENT, just imagine what actual houses costs.
>>69344669
>The "Great Game" never stopped.
The Great Game stopped until the Bolsheviks came to power once Britain and Russia came to an alliance agreement, then it resumed.
>France was politically a more mature country at that point, and a long ally of UK, which made them less of a target for subversion.
Not really, France was an absolute Monarchy only 40 years before. In the 1960s they almost had a Socialist revolution. Western European democracies only really stabilised in the last 50 years. In the UK there were plans for a military coup if Labour won an election against Thatcher.
>>69344720
No.
>>69345053
>No.
>i-i'm not anti-white
>i p-promise
>d-d-despite wanting to import non-whites into white countries i-i'm not anti-white i p-promise
Nice try, anti-white. Now go fuck yourself, globalist scumbag.
>>69344946
What does this even mean?
>>69345111
>if you disagree with me you must be a globalist
This is why I called you delusional.
>>69335796
That's about the minimum in Canada.
See how everything went exactly as I said it would? That the ''brit'' would start pretending he isn't anti-white from that point on, despite supporting neocon government of Canada and massmigration of non-whites into european nations
>>69345182
>>if you disagree with me you must be a globalist
If you disagree with the things I've posted ITT, then yes you are a globalist and an anti-white.
>>69345111
What else to expect from the Nazi satellites? Hopefully negros-liberators "release" your women black penises.
