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You will call it a shit-post - I call it data.
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And things are even worse with the Marxist, socialist, kike, nigger-loving, nazi, arab cocksmooching faggot.
Bwahahaha
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It's not good for your camp.
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>>69247244
>>69247404
>>69247739

U.S. media and law enforcement was always about juking the stats just to appease to their kike masters
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>>69247244
And what happens when Shillery gets indicted and after there's 4 or 5 more Euro bombings over the summer
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Keep stuffing your fingers in your ears and shouting "LA-LA-LA-I-DON'T-HEAR-YOU'
The sky is not blue in your world anymore because you have let emotions overtake your reason.
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>>69248576
Then Bernie takes it, pretty clear from the statistics.
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Hillary will win through electoral fraud.

You shillin' for Hill, OP?
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>>69248659
>Bernie fags are really this' dillusional
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>>69248704
No, I hate all the candidates, but I'm not going to pretend that it's not already sewn up.
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>>69248659
President romney should be running for his second term now then
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>>69248834
Bernie has 17% lead and Hillary has an 11% lead and both gaps are growing.
Seriously, who's delusional?
Delusional is mistaking your passion for reality, look at the numbers.
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This data is skewed.

And if the antiestablishment feeling in this country cannot prevail at the ballot, it will effect change by the bullet.

Keep pretending you are safe and nothing will ever go wrong...
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>>69249291
>Keep stuffing your fingers in your ears and shouting "LA-LA-LA-I-DON'T-HEAR-YOU'
>The sky is not blue in your world anymore because you have let emotions overtake your reason.

Bwa-hahaha... What are you guys going to take over another bird sanctuary?

Get real....
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>>69249291
The data reflects how incredibly unpopular Trump has become in the short span of less than a year, to be more negatively viewed than a woman who violated the public trust (only her last among a string of similar acts).

Now, of course, what you SHOULD do with this information is jump off from the unpopular "anti-establishment" candidate who brags over the fact that he was very much a part of the establishment previous to his running for president, and onto the candidacy of the actual anti-establishment candidate who in polling shows that he beats Hillary so that the system becomes challenged through legitimate power, but someone as you itching to release their violent inclination is clearly delusional in the first place, so it's a non-issue.
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>>69248576
>what happens when Shillery gets indicted

the talk is that her delegates will be "gifted" to Biden and he will take over
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>>69250207
Neither Cruz nor Kasich stand a chance against Hillary. The fact that Sanders beats every Republican candidate in these polls should be a sign that they don't reflect reality. There's no way a socialist can win the presidency.

If Cruz would have dropped out by now, I'm pretty sure that Trump would be beating Clinton in these polls right now. It's people like Glenn Beck that are pushing this rat forward, but he's at least as unpopular with the general electorate.
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>>69247244
B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-BUT MUH REAGAN VS CARTER

CARTER WAS KILLING HIM IN MARCH

THINGS WILL TURN AROUND

TRUST ME
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>>69247244
> Theoretical polls are right
> Republicans out voting the Democrats doesn't matter
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I'm for Cruz because of this, he's the only one who is beating her in the polls. Believe me, I would love to support Trump but he has no chance.
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>poll by media sources that are rabidly pro establishment have a ~10% greater difference

Now if only those polls reflected turnout.
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>>69250207
Better dead than Red faggot.

BY BALLOT OR BULLET CHANGE IS COMING

TRUMP OR BLOOD 2016
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>>69250472
When did anti-gun liberals get such a hardon over egregious shows of American military might?
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did you get a proxy? we have this thread every 30 minutes and it's debunked almost every time
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>>69247404
Would Americans even vote for a socialist like Bernie in general election?
From what I've learned is that most Americans hate socialism and would never want to pay 90% tax rates.
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>>69250207
Cruz is a globalist.
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>>69250634
So if Cruz wasn't in it all of those Clinton supporters who listen to Glenn Beck wouldn't be robbing Trump of his rightful place in the polls.

BTW, Do you take lots of drugs?
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>people unironically believe shillary will get indicted when obummer literally wants her in the white house as the only candidate who isn't shitting on his legacy
a few deals with fbi top officials and that will be it, not even needing for executive pardon
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>>69251233
A sizable amount of Republicans don't want to vote for Trump, because he's not a "tru conservative". He doesn't suck globalist cock like Cruz does.
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Well Trump was fun meme sillyman while his run lasted. It's time to bow to queen Hillary boys.
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>>69250634
>Neither Cruz nor Kasich stand a chance against Hillary.
Do tell. Tell how the guys who do beat her have no shot while the guy who gets literally murdered by her in polling is the only one who does.

>The fact that Sanders beats every Republican candidate in these polls should be a sign that they don't reflect reality. There's no way a socialist can win the presidency.
The just did twice in a row, genius. Sanders is only being a little bit more honest about things.

>If Cruz would have dropped out by now, I'm pretty sure that Trump would be beating Clinton in these polls right now
Not how polling works, mong.
>but he's at least as unpopular with the general electorate.
Not the case, yet were he, not to the extent that people would vote for Hillary for spite.
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>>69247244
>implying trump had a chance against hillary to begin with

Dont kid yourself, even if she fucking died trump would still lose to a corpse of hillary running against him, its almost like trump was placed there to build a loser candidate for her
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>>69251189
>>69251435
>delusional anons who spread conspiracy derived memes to make them feel better about rejecting measurable data
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Kasich would blow them all out of the water. He is democrat kryptonite.

Unfortunately he looks like Clark Kent to the GOP idiots.
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>Data before the general election
>Data before head-to-head debates
>Data before Trump's candidate-destroying efforts which have killed republican frontrunner one after another.

Probably most importantly though is that we lack a real perspective on where establishment supporters (on the GOP end) and Sanders supporters will actually shift their votes once it's all said and done. Some of them say one thing now, but will say another later.
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>>69251074
I'm not an anti-gun nut or a liberal, but I know a bullshit argument when I see one.
I served overseas, I own guns and I hunt. Whatever, there are plenty of people who aren't exactly suited to have guns. My dumbass neighbor shot himself in the leg with a 9mm when he was fucking around with his gun during a night of drinking with his buddies. Almost died, kind of wish he had - Darwinism - gives owners like me a bad name. I keep my weapons locked up in the safe at my rod & gun club - I live in a rural community. Even if the nut-bag delusional dreams of the end of the world youtubers came true. There will be no hordes of satan worshiping, zombie niggers crawling through my neck of the woods. We all have wells and fireplaces and lots of trees and livestock and more than anything community. We will get by.
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>>69251691
The liberal media isn't attacking Cruz (giving him his place in the GE polls) because they want him to win the nomination first. Cruz vs Clinton would be a carbon copy of Johnson vs Goldwater, Cruz is a far-right theocrat who could be painted as far, far worse than Trump. In fact, he's everything that Trump is accused of being.

Kasich would probably win since he has the same policies as Hillary but it doesn't matter who wins for the same reason. What makes him worse than Hillary is that a President Clinton would feed right wing movements to continue growing while Kasich would be painted as a far-right fascist like Cruz and allow the liberals to play the victim.
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shillary would only lose if burn out got bootybasted enough to run third party
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>>69252004
The public at large doesn't care about Kasich. He won his home state and then proceeded to get fourth place in a three person race.

Even if you agree with him policy-wise, you have to agree that he simply isn't a relevant player.
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>>69251435
BTW, its not just conservatives would bail on voting for Trump, but from across the spectrum. I guess being an antagonistic jerk towards the bases of all the candidates Trump needed to overcome with class so that he could unify the party going forward did work out in the end, huh?
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>>69250527
Joe 'take your shotgun, walk out on the porch and commit half a dozen felonies' Biden?

I'm excited already.
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Are they exclusively asking Democratic voters? How can he have almost 50% republican support but lose by so much in these polls?
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>>69251177

Those who are rabidly anti-socialist are GOP voters who would never vote for him anyways.

and the 90% is actually 50% and only for the highest income earners.
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>LALALALALLALA POLLS MEAN NOTHING LALALA CAN'T STUMP DA TRUMP LALALALALAL MAGAGAGMAGAMAGAMAGA
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>>69247244
Are those the same polls that predicted Hilliary would beat Obama in 2008 and again in 2012?
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>>69252102

That's the GOP's fault. He was the most qualified and likeable moderate. He won Ohio for a good reason - they love him there.

But moderates don't win primaries most of the time, and the GOP let this shit get way out of hand. Now they're in damage control mode.
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>>69247244
...and yet here we are, you all mad at the movement......

Stop losing to us and join the winning team.

It feels soooohdamn good to finally win!
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>>69252263
He's not going to win the cuckservative vote.

This polls do leave out the amount of Bernie people and centrist democrats that vote in polls but won't vote in the general election though. I imagine those would balance out the massive amount of republicans that Trump has lost.
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>>69249291
>claims the data is skewed
>offers no information to support initial claim

Your data is skewed.
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>>69252263
most people don't vote in primaries, period.
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>>69247244
Reminder: These same polls has Romney crushing Obama four years ago.
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>>69251808
And we do not give a fuck. We will shill for him till the end of time if only to piss off the redditors and liberals.
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>>69252391
Cuckservatives are so 2002. They're over.
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>>69252334
>numerous sites have been saying Trump will be Hillary's worst nightmare
>polls will not be taking into account debates or scandals

I'm sure each of these polls has taken into account how popular hillary will be when Trump attacks her directly about her email scandals, Benghazi, her persecution of Bill Clinton's rape victims, her husband's friendship with Epstein, et al.
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>>69247244
/pol/ has lost its libertarian roots and is now sucking Donald's cock 24/7
I hope he loses.
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>>69252551
you seem to think cruz or kaisch wouldn't do the exact same. the republican establishment has been doing it for years.
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>>69252712
Cruz wouldn't do shit, nor would kasich. They're both gigantic fucking pussies.
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>>69251087
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Why are Democrats so mad at "populisim "

.why do they hate democracy so much?
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>>69252787
the republican establishment began every single of those scandals or at least brought them to the spotlight
were you asleep in the 90's?
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>>69249291

Would gladly put a couple of rounds into some Trumpfag skulls.

We defeated fucks like you in 1865, we'll do it again if we have to.
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>>69252637
Maybe /pol/ is sick of losing
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>>69250672
Reagan was appointed potus by Khomenei.

>>69247244
>>69247404
Good.
Going with the lesser evil approach, Sanders is the least dangerous candidate.
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>>69247244

>implying anyone cares about Clinton this much to vote for her in the general

sage, report, hide, the only reason this thread is here is to slow our movement.
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>>69252551
Considering Trump also went with Epstein on that plane to pedo island, he'd do good to stay away from that boat
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>>69252994
I think it's time to go hump your aunts ass you nigger
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>>69252637
Keep us posted...

(That's am allusion to the fact that youre stupid and wrong...)
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>>69251691
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_cruz_vs_sanders-5742.html

RCP average Sanders +10

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_kasich_vs_sanders-5817.html

RCP average Sanders +2

Not. Realistic. Kasich only won his home state, so how he can win from Clinton would be beyond me. The only way they can win the nomination is by cheating. This is why they're seen less of a threat to the media and the general electorate. They don't get the same media attention, and the people don't realize yet what they stand for.

>>69251933
I'm not talking about the NWO. Trump's a nationalist, which the neocon establishment from the last 30 years despises. They don't only hate him because he's so divisive.

There's a lot he can do to close the gap, especially since he was deliberately playing the media as a way of free promotion. Controversy is more fun than negative ads.
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>>69252056
>The liberal media isn't attacking Cruz
They've been attacking him since 2011.
>because they want him to win the nomination first.
Then they would have given Ted Cruz the $2bil worth of free media attention rather than Trump, who actually is the weakest potential opponent Clinton might face.
>Cruz vs Clinton would be a carbon copy of Johnson vs Goldwater
Obama wasn't shot in the head like Kennedy was, so you're wrong on that count too. Which is just you reinforcing the establishment meme that conservatism is unpopular in a country that overwhelmingly self-identifies as conservative, for the fact that were such people elected the establishment would actually see their power reduced.
>Cruz is a far-right theocrat
You reinforcing yet another meme, this time a secularist one to intone that anyone not shy to have their faith on display (even when the likes of the Democratic nominee will eventually pay lip service towards their supposed "faith"), proving yet again that the soldiers for progressivism are well established in the alt-right as well as the traditional voting republican tent. You'll have that secularism further advanced, right or wrong.
>who could be painted as far, far worse than Trump
Cruz conspicuously went out of his way to see that this wouldn't happen.
>In fact, he's everything that Trump is accused of being.
Cruz is a racist homophobic and misogynist hitler? Haven't heard it.
>Kasich would probably win since he has the same policies as Hillary but it doesn't matter who wins for the same reason. What makes him worse than Hillary is that a President Clinton would feed right wing movements to continue growing while Kasich would be painted as a far-right fascist like Cruz and allow the liberals to play the victim.
Fascinating theory to what needs to happen to "grow the right wing movement." I love how much it depends on losing, again and again.

Cuck.
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>>69251087
>says it's Debunked

>Isn't

Millions find out the Truth about jews
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>>69251177
Fuck no. Not fot blacks anyway.
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>>69250207
Face it. You guys are done. .
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>>69250472
Then why can't the U.S. beat goat-fucking guerillas in Afghanistan or Iraq? Why couldn't they win in Vietnam if they had the Army, Marines, Navy, and Air Force?
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I wish the south would secede the union again, the rest of America is tired of carrying all that fiscal and intellectual dead-weight.
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>>69253295
>to have their faith on display (blah blah) shouldn't be considered for the presidency
bad cut and paste
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>>69251177

trump is more socialist than sanders.

think about what trump wants to do, and then consider the ways and means he needs to use to accomplish it.

trump will fuck up the US big time.
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>>69247244
Let's jog your memory back to 2012
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>>69247244
>implying these people will actually go out and vote
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>>69253295
Cruz is a a tea party republican. I don't think the majority of America is interested in that kind of gridlock ideology.
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JUST
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>>69253668
Terrain, no empire in history has had a successful long standing victory in Afghanistan.
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>>69250527
I'd vote for Biden and I'm a Trump supporter.

Honestly I'll take anybody that triggers SJW's and makes the wagecuck maymay less credible.
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>>69253852
There is no way undecided voters will swing towards trump later on.
trump's behavior has been extremely polarizing and divisive.
He has already peaked, and his numbers can only fall.
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>>69251691
>The guy who only won his home state has a chance to beat Hillary.
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Tariffs are a tax on US consumers. They disproportionately affect the lower classes.

He needs to focus on making the US more competitive. Lower corporate tax rates and raise marginal income rates would be a start.
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>>69253852
>posts one poll
The cherry picking is real. You'll find that Romney never trailed the democrat as bad as Trump does now, and people thought Romney was a weak candidate, lul.
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>>69247244
Hillary has a skeleton factory in her closet and the general election hasn't even started yet.
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Reminder that about this time in 2012, romney was ahead of obama by a similar margin.

Show me a graph trends like this two weeks before the election, and I will care.
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>>69247244
I don't understand what you want us to do OP???

>your losing, just give up now.

>hey guys, we are down big, lets forfeit at half time.

>aww shit I am losing this round, I'll just quit the game now.

Real men and women don't quit because they aren't winning.

You sound like a real faggot OP. You will claim not to be a liberal, but you definitely sound like a little faggot.

P.s. Kill yourself for Allah
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>>69247404
Sanders wouldn't win though. "Social-democrats" get destroyed in Canada, let alone the US.

Trump will lose to Hillary, but he could beat Sanders no problem.
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>>69254267
He can be soft, mellow, civil, and politically correct if he needs be. But that would be boring. The only thing he needs to do is get off Twitter.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5VEjF1uhYo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Usb0iE5WiZI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rksd80-FCAw

A lot can change in 4-5 months.
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>>69253249
I'm not talking about the NWO. Trump's a nationalist, which the neocon establishment from the last 30 years despises.
Cruz is a constructionist conservative. And you should be very careful with those labels you're throwing around, for Trump is the very definition of someone neo (new) to conservatism.
>They don't only hate him because he's so divisive.
The voters aren't basing their distaste for the man that he loses to Hillary on the premise of your (emotional-based) thoughts as to Trump's nationalism.
>There's a lot he can do to close the gap, especially since he was deliberately playing the media as a way of free promotion. Controversy is more fun than negative ads.
Trump's media-based campaign is a double edged sword, for in the general they can take away just as easily the vehicle that allowed him by their good graces to succeed in the primary. They'd have got out of him what they wanted; a weak Republican candidate who gave them good ratings for awhile.
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The 800 pound gorilla in the room is that the GOP wants to stuff a born-again-Christian ideology down everyone's throat and most Americans are uncomfortable with that.
Saying that a woman can't have an abortion even if she was raped by her dad and closing all planned parenthoods is unreasonable - yet the gop sticks to this kind of rhetoric, which causes people to pull the dem handle - because the gop is just batshit crazy.
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>>69253249
>Not. Realistic. Kasich only won his home state, so how he can win from Clinton would be beyond me
Because the national polling is taking measure of general election voters, who are quite different than the primary voters that chooses who runs for office.

>The only way they can win the nomination is by cheating
The only way anyone can win the nomination is by securing the majority of delegates. If it doesn't happen by the convention, it's decided at the convention. Now, whereas Kasich wouldn't be cheating to swing delegate, it would be fantastically out of step with what direction the primary voter wanted for the party. Not so with Cruz.
>This is why they're seen less of a threat to the media and the general electorate. They don't get the same media attention, and the people don't realize yet what they stand for.
What you're trying to say here is that no candidate can top the media choice, who will inevitably be the liberal in the race. This in spite of the fact that elections swing between parties on a fairly regular basis.

Cuck.
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>>69254623

Romney hadn't put his foot in his mouth yet by this time. He shot his campaign in the foot. Also, Rmoney didn't have over half of the people in his own party hating him by now.

The only way Trump can climb is to put on a cape and save a dozen kids in a burning orphanage.
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>>69254595
Unfortunately she has shown to be quite resilient against those revelations
>This time it will hurt her
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>>69250207
surely women are too dumb to vote anyway
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>>69254742
It would be kinda hard for Trump to run as the "non establishment" guy when facing Sanders.
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>>69254595
Yeah, but she has the machine in her back pocket - so even if it comes to light, there will be no consequences.

I don't like her either, but it's time you accept that she's already won.
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aaaahhhhhhhh, yes
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>>69247244

Hillary has more balls and is more masculine than Bernie and his hipster millennial college fag supporters but I'd still rather him win than this fucking nurse ratched corporate shill bitch.
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>>69254954
There really haven't been any "revelations" yet>>69255084
t.Shill
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>>69254113
The public responds in polling very favorably to tea party issues, even at the same time that it views the Tea Partyâ„¢ negatively. And while Cruz is a tea party republican, he doesn't RUN as one. He's an consistent conservative, ya get it?
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>>69247244
You mean you can't win an election by insulting a "Yuge" part of the electorate?!
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>>69254809
Notice that all of these are from 20-30 years ago.
trump is trump - he won't change - he can't change.
he's an annoying douche with a big mouth.

>>69255064
>Trump = non establishment

this idiocy needs to stop.
trump has always been pro-establishment.
all his life - and he will always be.
the establishment made him rich after all.

The only anti-establishment candidate is sanders.
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>>69255084

It was pretty obvious even from several years ago that Hillary would be the next president. Doesn't mean we should all roll over, surrender, and jump on the cuck train of occidental destruction though.
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>>69254917
>The 800 pound gorilla in the room is that the GOP wants to stuff a born-again-Christian ideology down everyone's throat
That isn't the GOP at all. That is the Democratic party's meme of what the GOP is about.
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>>69252637
I'm not a /pol/ veteran, but even I can tell it's because of how fucked up the world has turned out. I can imagine how extremist hippie these faggots here used to be; they'd hate their governments and have their own plans for how the world would work, probably convinced that conservatism and patriotism was a ruse to get you to give up your life and be a good boy for jews etc.

nowadays you can't be a hippie, not even an extremist hippie. you have to side with Trump and his ideals, otherwise YOU are the cancer and every rational human who thinks even two fucking steps ahead can see this. if you don't, you side with niggers and nigger lovers. the developed world boiled down to only two factions and both of them have significant impact. you can only choose one or the other, anything else is fruitless
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>>69254175

If that chart is true then sanders would be winning
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>>69255322
who cares what finland thinks lol
you're less relevant than i am posting about this
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>>69254175
Was this before or after Rato talked about copulating with rats, and he was found to have cheated on his wife with at least five women?
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>>69247244
>50%
I call it women
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>>69255124
see>>69250672 & >>69253052

and remember this: CARTER WAS AN INCUMBENT PRESIDENT. Hillary will not be making decisions which will adversely affect her poll numbers as they adversely affect the nation. She is OUT OF POWER.

Fucking idiot.
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>>69255384

this.

Most bible thumpers just want to be able to live in their own small communities and don't care if the New York liberals indulge in their hedonistic degeneracy.
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>>69254917
"Where does an 800-lb. gorilla sit?"
The answer:
"Anywhere it wants to."

The metaphor has been mixed, on occasion, with the metaphor of the elephant in the room.
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>>69254917
and yet when you bring this shit up on the alt-right they accuse you of "punching right"

Yeah no shit. Bad ideas are hurting conservative principle because MUH JESUS. The fact that you faggots pretend to be Christian between trap fapping just shows what shallow sheep you are.
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>pre-nomination GE polls
>mattering

pick one.
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>>69255058
Hillary is only somewhat favorable to women, which doesn't measure the level of commitment they have to her; hell, she's losing them right now to Sanders.
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>>69255410
Maybe that holds true for the main political arena, but it doesn't have to affect the way you think.
You don't have to give up your own ideals to pick a side unless you can't handle mild cognitive dissonance.
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>>69255702
That's an AK-4 isn't it? Fucking hate that thing
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>>69247244

>muh election

nobody cares

ww3 coming
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>>69255468

>fugg it's true

I swear this meme magic stuff is really getting out of control /pol/. I'm beginning to legitimately fear the power of kek.
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>>69249291
If that was true, then Bernie wouldn't have a 17 point lead since he is also anti-establishment. According to the betting markets, it looks like Hillary is the one who is most likely to win.
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>>69255818
in times like this you live in the moment, or you're not living at all. your mindset has to change as the world around you changes, that doesn't mean you have to have your core values corrupted. we humans can put on a show for something we need supported whether we agree with it or not.

think about the Trump tweets about video games, anons defend it because they need Trump right now. honestly, however, they'd never agree to having their games taken. once the dust settles and they have their Trump, they'd slowly go back to their core(that is if they weren't weak willed in the first place, otherwise they'll cling to Trump until someone else comes along and corrupts their mindset)
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>>69256164
>that is if they weren't weak willed in the first place, otherwise they'll cling to Trump until someone else comes along and corrupts their mindset
You can't tell me with a straight face this isn't exactly what's happening right now.
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>>69247404
>>69247244
Notice how the worst polling person always performs best in those hypothetical matchups. Those matchups tell you that Bernie and Kasich are the strongest.

Because the poorest performing candidates are the least polarising and therefore palatable to the largest number of people. If you matched either Clinton or Trump against "some nice old guy from South Dakota" you can bet that guy would win.

In other words it doesn't mean much because it shows the strongest as performing the worst pretty consistently.
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>>69256067
>The power of Kek
Praise his name!
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>>69255410
>I can imagine how extremist hippie these faggots here

Newfag please go, save us your bullshit projected analysis. No one in this place is a 'hippie' you massive fuckwit, hippies were the start of all this SJW idiocracy with have to deal with today. Much like faggots are to blame for Trannys and gender binary non sense
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>>69247244
>MSM polls that do not disclose their methodology
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>Bernie the strongest candidate in every poll
>can't even come close to getting the nomination of his own party

hmmmm
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>>69252391
The Bernie people definitely won't vote for Shillary after the anal bern they'll get in Philly.
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>>69253116
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/video/news/video-1163247/Trump-Bill-Clintons-ties-pedophile-Jeffrey-Epstein.html

He's already mentioned it. The left won't use it against him because if they do it invalidates their position as well.
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>>69247244
>Click here
Sanders does even better than Hillary with +4 points
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>>69256340
I'm guessing it also has to do with name recognition. People know Trump and Hillary more than they know Bernie or Kasich which is why they're performing so poorly in primaries.
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>>69255322
>The only anti-establishment candidate is sanders.
i mean come on, you really have to try harder
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>>69256936
They even have Kasich and Rubio beating Hillary. The polls are all over the place
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>>69255322
>career politician
>never had a job before he ran for office
>senator for 30 years
>>>>>>>>>>anti-establishment
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>>69256798
1. Turkey 2. No MSM poll cited
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>>69256315
I just said we can put on a show and you don't have to change your core values. /pol/ is not immune to having weak willed people on it, of course some if not most have their will changed completely by these events. you guys got a lot of attention lately so I wouldn't know how populated this board used to be, but even back then there were certainly those weak willed and easily influenced.
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>>69247244

You can thank the white knighting cucks in the 20th century who gave women the power to vote for these results.
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>>69255322
>The only anti-establishment candidate is sanders.
Then why does Soros help and endorse him?
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>>69257547
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>>69257285
The only people protesting I've seen are the opposite side.
So what happens is if you protest you're an automatic liberal.
I haven't seen a lot of /pol/-minded people protest.
I guess what I'm saying is there aren't that many strong willed people around.
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>>69254902
>Cruz is a constructionist conservative

He's also a globalist hawk like Bush was.

>a weak Republican candidate

Cruz and Kasich are the weak candidates here, m80. Not one of them comes close to the number of delegates that Trump has. You can't just say that these primaries are irrelevant, just because the general electorate happens to be bigger. Cruz only won a few midwestern states, Texas, Oklahoma, and a few caucuses. Kasich only won his home state of Ohio. I wouldn't call that a mandate. They'd have a hard time to get a majority even if their delegates would be added up at the convention.

He's also been republican since at least the 80s, as you can see in the second video I linked in the post above you. He's just not as much of a hardliner on social issues, which is like a breath of fresh air, and apparently something which voters don't really have an issue with.

>>69254923
>What you're trying to say here is that no candidate can top the media choice, who will inevitably be the liberal in the race.

What I'm saying is that even if one of the other candidates gets the nomination, which is pretty unlikely at this point unless the RNC and unbound delegates deny him the nomination, they would finally get under media scrutiny and their favorability ratings would drop hard. This would be an easy win for Clinton, because like I said, they wouldn't have a mandate to run.

The RNC secretly wants a second chance in 2020, just to avoid Trump.
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>>69256936
Probably due to name recognition and that shes a women. Obama lost the popular vote to Clinton in the primaries despite having higher favorability ratings. Bernie and Kasich is likely to lose, but whoever has the highest favorability rating is likely to be the strongest nominee in the general election. Kasich and Bernie both are favorable compared to other candidates.
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>>69255322
>this idiocy needs to stop.
>trump has always been pro-establishment.
>all his life - and he will always be.
>the establishment made him rich after all.

This is all bullshit, tell me how Trump is establishment? You realise Bernstein is a commy? That will increase the size and strength of the government and every single person will pay more tax?

Trump made his money through business and real estate. He isn't some scamming jew who ripped off ordinary people through a government loop hole. I love when international people give their opinions about how the public is feeling, like you would have any ideq besides what the biased media regurgitate for you.

PAY DEBTS
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>>69257122
>>69257184

I'm talking about sander's current political views and past actions as a political activist.

trump and clinton have benefited much more from the establishment.
the clintons have acquired a mafia status in politics, and trump has admitted that he has taken advantage of legal loopholes and business laws to enrich himself even when it went against his political ideology.

sanders is the least corrupt of all the candidates.

>>69257547
PROOFS???
Following your logic trump is a member of the KKK because duke endorsed trump.
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>>69247244
I don't like Trump, but why would anyone vote for Hillary? I said this in another thread, with Trump you have the hope that he is pretending to be retarded or he'll change his mind when he gets elected, Hillary is plain evil.
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>>69248704
Why would she commit fraud when she's ahead by 10+ percentage points retard?
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>>69257872
>Following your logic trump is a member of the KKK because duke endorsed trump.

David Duke didn't endorse him actually, he just said he agrees with some things, know why he didn't? Because Trump is too friendly with Jews

You would know this if you looked in to things yourself instead of letting media think for you.

>Taking political advice from a Greek

Got any financial advice while your here?
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>>69256067
>liberal websites purposely take quotes out of context to portray a guy they don't like in a negative light

Yeah, wow, what a change!
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>>69247244
Trump can still win. It's just unlikely. Personally, I want him to win so he can destroy the GOP party.
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>>69257672
>>69257872
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/01/26/exclusive-bernie-sanders-blasts-billionaires-but-has-unreported-ties-to-soros/

http://fortune.com/2016/01/12/bernie-sanders-moveon-endorsement/
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>>69258371
Seems like the Cruz missile missfired. There's no out-of-context quote. He believed the term "ratfucker" meant copulating with rats. That's when he stated that even though Donald is a rat, he would not copulate with him.

He didn't make an example, or a parable, he outright said that he would not copulate with Donald Trump, even though he may be a rat.
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>>69257872
>>69258413

Kek BTFO
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>>69248576
Read slowly so you understand:
The Clintons OWN the system, remember that Bill was literally *impeached* **without any repercussions**.
They are teflon dons, there will be no indictment and even if there is it somehow won't effect her. Euro bombings are Euro problems, if the shit-skins get too far out of line we grease a couple of their capitans... Simple.
Pretty sure Brussels bombing is why their #2 just got capped.
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>>69257873
>I don't like Trump, but why would anyone vote for Hillary?
Because they pay attention to traditional media (or no media whatsoever, relying on like-minded friends to keep them informed through their twitter feeds), who will absolutely not hold power---especially power when wielded by the left---to account. Every one of Hillary's transgressions are defended or mitigated by them beyond levels of circumspection as would apply to any other person. So Hillary is free to be as evil as circumstances allow, and normies just don't realize it.
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>>69258642
>Trump supporters does the same

Incredible turn of events!
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>>69258407
Why didn't McCain win then :(
Why didn't Kerry win then :(
Why didn't Gore win then :(

You can't pull that picture out everytime someone says Trump will win because Reagan did. You're fucking retarded
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>>69258992
it's not saying that it's going to happen

more so just don't write it off
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>>69257844
trump has scammed thousands of people
that's literally his job
scamming people

government will increase with trump, not sanders
trump will have to become a dictator to actually do the shit he says he will do
you'll see executive orders up the ass
you'll see worse laws than the patriot act
you'll see gun control
you'll see trump fucking up trade all over, and inflicting heavy financial losses on US business, as well as foreign businesses that export to the US
trump has literally stated that he will blackmail US trading partners with terrifs to force them to do his bidding
trump is a clown

>>69258413
infowars and breibart
also
http://www.truthrevolt.org/news/soros-backed-moveonorg-endorses-sanders

What a load of shit.
get your tinfoil off your head and shove it up your ass
also filename
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>>69247244
>>69247404
>bernie can't even beat hillary
>bernie will do better than hillary vs Trump

nice data
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I'm not saying I expect Trump to win, but the election will be closer than polls suggest, and the reason is simple: voter turnout.

Democrat turnout is already somewhat low, and it won't help that Hillary has more haters among liberals than Trump has haters among conservatives. Bernie supporters won't vote. Cruz/Rubio supporters would rather Trump be president than Hillary.
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>I post this every time that I find a thread like this, and I post it a lot. A lot of people see it, and they read it too. I post these things, and people agree with me. I'm probably one of the best posters around here. If I had a tripcode, my replies would be huge. Anyway, I'm telling you right now that your posts are not something that we can believe in. The words you use aren't the ones we use. The tone you use isn't the tone most of our people use, and your reasons for why you supported Trump aren't the reasons why we did-and you know what? It's embarrassing. It really is. I feel bad for you-I do-because you don't even know it, but you're wasting your time. You're an embarrassing mess. You're just a big fat mistake.

Honestly, look at all of the time you've wasted posting things that won't get through to anyone. You post these things, but your posts are low energy. I post with lots of words, but yours are just bad information! Ha, can you believe that? Every word, and every post that I post is full with energy and good information. People LOVE reading my good information. Nobody takes you seriously. Nobody is paying attention to this. You're just wasting your time. You have an energy deficit with 4chan right now, and that's a bad deal. Not me though. I have a GREAT deal. This pasta I just posted just got 10 lines longer, and you know who paid for it? Reddit and tumblr did with their energy. That's a good deal, and that's why we're winning. We're the ones making good deals.
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>>69258920
>Here's what actually happened, here's a video of it
>It's not nested within a statement, he straight up says he wouldn't copulate with Donald, even though he's a rat
>>Help! It didn't happen! They're lying! Slander, slander! Help!!
Get a grip. What do you see in this compulsively lying serial-unfaithfully zoophiliac, anyway?
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>>69259110
But,

Still Trump doesn't have a snowballs chance in hell with the bookies.
You might want to stock up now for September.

BTW fucking Aussies
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>>69259361
Hillary has more name recognition than Bernie, which plays a pretty important role.
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>>69247244
No I just call you a faggot.
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>>69258754
>>69260173
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>>69249280
>bernie polls higher than hillary relative to trump
>yet bernie is getting completely fucking obliterated by hillary electorally

hmm, funny how that works. so yes, you're the delusional one faggot, these h2h polls aren't relevant while the primaries are still ongoing

trump is going to be the next president and all you can do about it is cry.
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>>69252012
Huh...an American veteran/hunter/country boy who keeps his guns locked up outside his house.

That would make this the first time in my entire life (living in SC,NC,GA) that I've ever seen a vet/hunter/country boy keep his guns out of his own hands.

Not impossible, but sure doesn't seem likely.
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>>69260173
Very erudite... That is not a good way of dealing with a reality that doesn't re- enforce your own beliefs.
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>>69255811
>sanders
>winning anything

hahahahahahahahahahahahaha get fucked bernouts
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>>69250472
The US military has a sworn oath to protect the constitution and American people first, and the government second. If the government violates the constitution in an attempt to violate the rights of the people, expect massive splintering and factioning in the military, the majority of which will be against the government.
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>>69250472

Yeah I see what you mean, Iraq is completely pacified right now.
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>>69260529
I have young kids. The rod & gun club is a mile up the road. Also, I'm not from dixie.
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>>69260946
Then buy a safe for your home, bolt it to the floor and keep a 9mm handgun there.
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>>69260629

The Constitution is null and void.

http://www.constitution.org/uslaw/defunlaw.htm

Closing statement:
As a practical matter one should try to avoid relying on the above in an actual confrontation with law enforcement agents, who are likely not to know or care about any of it. Some recent courts have refused to follow these principles, and grand juries, controlled by prosecutors, have refused to indict officers who killed innocent people claiming the subject "resisted" or "looked like he might have a gun". Once dedicated to "protect and serve", far too many law enforcement officers have become brutal, lawless occupying military forces.

tl;dr
The Constitution has absolutely no practical value.
It's just an old piece of paper politicians use to invoke feelings of patriotism and get votes.

You're also overestimating the intelligence and capacity for critical thought of the average US soldier or other government security employee
Soldiers and cops are trained to follow orders and learn to operate on a need to know basis without asking a lot of questions.
Do I need to remind you of Ruby Ridge?
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>>69260072
I just don't see how that is possible now. At the beginning, yes, but not now. At least not by a significant margin.

>have tv or Internet
>know who Bernie is
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>>69258791

You don't understand what impeachment is, do you?

Impeachment is just bringing formal charges against. It's not the act of kicking someone out of the office itself.

Congress investigates then they vote to see if the politician should be kicked out of office.

Andrew Johnson was impeached. Congress fell short of kicking him out by one vote. The swing vote congressman had his career ruined because of it.

Clinton was impeached, but congress didn't vote to kick him out of office.
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>>69247244
hhaahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahah
DRUMPF BTFO
drumpf supporters in denial
supporting Trump is a waste of time
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>>69247244
>pre candidate polls
Ahahahahahahha
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>>69258992

The point is polls this far out are meaningless. He's not saying that the person behind at this point always wins the general. He's saying that it doesn't really matter and Regan proves that.

Romney was ahead of Obama at this point in 2012.

Stop being a retard that misses the point entirely.
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>>69257844
>This is all bullshit, tell me how Trump is establishment?
Let's let Donald J. Trump tell you himself and see if that matters.

https://youtu.be/UhxZwBdOsIw?t=54s
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>>69250472
Wow The flairs showed me
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>>69247839
a typical euro nationalist party member, they trick the polls they fix the election
you follow the nationalist handbook perfectly
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>>69250472
>millions of americans decide to have another revolution
>government doesn't know which people are in or out
>cant use air superiority to just carpet bomb places since there is no centralized location where rebels are
>us military members might not be okay with killing americans in the first place

Its worse than the afghanis in caves, you literally couldn't tell a rebel american from a regular american. Half of households own a firearm, going grabbing would be nearly impossible if not outright dangerous (assuming even 0.1% of gun owners doesn't go quietly that's a lot of blood to disarm).

You wouldn't be able to kill rebels unless you somehow caught them while doing their thing. The US government couldn't just kill citizens either, unless they're an active threat (i.e. gun or bomb in hand) you'd need to give them a trial, get warrants to drone them, etc.

So unless the government went total war and broke laws, they would have a tough time.
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>>69249291
>it will effect change by the bullet.


LMAO. I would love to see you try.
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>>69259306

Wow literally everything you said is a lie. Impressive how much bullshit you can spew in one comment
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>>69261747
>ignore the polls
>accuse others of missing the point entirely
Meaningless things have no reason to exist, and yet there are head-to-head matchup polls well in advance of the general election; multiple matchup polls, for the purpose of assessing the strengths of the various campaigns against the same opponent. Which is how it can be known that a candidate like Ted Cruz is far stronger against the same candidate to whom Trump loses badly. Bringing Reagan into it as a means to dismiss this fact is what's meaningless---especially insofar as Reagan was pitted against a standing president and could capitalize on that president's mistakes---for what you don't have to judge is how the OTHER candidates in the 1980 election fared against Carter this far out.
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>>69253668

Because we have to play by the rules of engagement, unlike empires before the Geneva Convention.
Makes things a little harder when you can't brute force your way through due to "repercussions" (or at least a bluffing threat of them) by global organizations.
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>>69261943

Explain to us in detail HOW will trump arrest and deport 30 million illegals - 30 million is trump's number btw.

Let's put aside all the logistical and financial impediments to building "the wall". Explain to us in detail HOW will trump manage to build "the wall" without having any support from democrats or republicans.
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>>69253474
that truth?
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http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_clinton-5491.html
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>>69255322
>he's an annoying douche with a big mouth

Word is that he isn't like this in private. That's at least what his longtime friends, such as Bill O'Reily, but also Carson and Chris Christie are saying. He's always been a controversial figure in public, but he notched it up for his reality TV career.

>>69261762
He knows the system, but he wouldn't get the hate he's getting if he wasn't anti-establishment. This is a silly game you're playing here, also known as the backfire effect, just to support a bum loser like yourself. You're going to feel the bern alright, just not the one you expected.
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>>69252637
/pol/ was never libertarian. It's been national socialist from the beginning.

Ron Paul was only supported because his views were better for us than the usual cucks.
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>>69261747
>Reagan
again?
come on
post polls and method and data pls
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>>69262397
You can't annihilate the population in a war because you'll start an arms race. People will know that it'll be their end if they're the next target. Carpet bomb Afghanistan or another nation today and tomorrow you'll see Chinese/Russian military bases popping around the world and every shithole country developing nukes.
I expected more from you, I learned this when I was 10yo in my wattle and daub school.
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>polls meaning anything in this day and age

They still do polling by dialing landlines.

I don't even fucking own a landline.
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>>69262512
>Without support
Practically everyone is making their own soft copy talking point of his wall at his point. Who was it, Cruz and Hillary, or Hillary and Sanders? Too lazy to look it up, but a bunch of them already actively voted for fences/smaller walls, and border measures.

As for logistics, see pic related. They might fight him on principle (i.e. "why is this guy so free, and I have to do whatever my master says when he tugs on my collar?"), but they all more or less agree on it. Without a border, frankly, as he says, you don't have a country. That's literally what a country is - geographically agreed upon borders. It only makes sense to actually make sure those borders are respected (unless you're a commie cuck or taconigger with no legitimate reason to immigrate).
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>>69259361
Just proves that the dems have already won the election. Get ready for another 8 years of cuckoldry, at least after this the democratic party's stature will be reduced third party status for the next few elections
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>>69264023
If the polls showed trump at over 55% you would be singing a different tune now.

>>69264152
Your pic is a collection of rationalizations.
Mexico cannot and will not pay shit. That's just 5th grade nonsense, and only idiots fall for such rhetoric.
Neither the democrats nor the republicans like trump - or to put it in perspective, they both loath him.
How will trump get what he wants if he has to struggle against the congress every time?
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>>69263434
>It's been national socialist from the beginning.
/pol/ has become the new /b/ and so it's origins were always anti-authoritarian
the stormfag holohoax is part of it and there's something to be said for the NS movement, but /pol/ is not classical natsoc or even fascist
the only thing out of NS that /pol/ takes is ethnocentrism and traditionalism
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>>69254809
>He can be soft, mellow, civil, and politically correct if he needs be.
But the public will only remember the negtive aspects of him
>A lot can change in 4-5 motnhs
Not enough to change the undecided view. Trump fucked himself by swinging too far right on some issues, same as Romney in 2012. He's dead outside the Republican convention
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>>69264755
No I wouldn't, because the polls have been incredibly unreliable in this election. Bernie wins states he wasn't supposed to, Hillary is winning when every poll says she shouldn't be, Cruz has won a few states he shouldn't have, Rubio won a fucking state out of nowhere, Trump won yuuuuuge in the south when that should have been Cruz's best bet.

The polling is all over the place and is wrong.

Now, what we do have is actual concrete numbers such as Trump bringing in more crossovers votes and independents than any other candidate. They told us Trump couldn't win the Latino vote and he did, they said he couldn't win with women and he's actually doing okay with women.

The Democratic voter turnout is down 30% or more at every single one of their primaries and caucuses, where as the Republican turnout is up past Obama's record setting numbers even in open generals.

We will have a Republican President in 2017, the actual hard date tells us that, and it might be Cruz but I doubt that, I believe Hillary would kill him in a general so our best bet is Trump because she has nothing to attack him on because the morons aired out everything too early.
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>>69264973
>>69254809

People are forgetting that Hillary will have a billion dollars to replay all the dumb shit Trump has said about women/everyone else. It doesn't matter how much Trump tries to shift to the general electorate, the damage has already been done.
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>>69264152
The problem with Trumps wall is it would send the Mexican government into exile. People would be rioting in the streets and politicians would be found dead with their families at their comfy villas.

The Mexican government is so so corrupt anyways, being practically owned by drug lords, that it doesn't matter if the government believes the wall is in their best interest. It would cripple the illegal operations their donors rely on, and be seen as a capitulation to the US by the general public.

Pride comes before fall, and the Mexican government would sooner face war (which the US would be unable to do because the public would literally send lynch mobs after Trump and the military industrial complex) than pay for a wall.

Trump knows this though, he's only using the wall as angry rhetoric to build support among his base in the coming GE when he's going to need every vote he can get if he want to beat Shillary.
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>>69265623
Hillary can't play the war on women card when her husband is a rapist.
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>>69265780
I find your lack of faith in the vagina... sexist...
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>>69265780

that's the whole point of super pacs. Hillary doesn't have to say shit, her commercials will. She won't even have to bring it up during debates
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>>69262512
By negotiating. He's probably only going to deport people with a criminal record. "Cool guy" Obama deported a record number of people also.

>>69264973
You'd be surprised. People got a very short memory.

>>69265623
>Hillary will have a billion dollars to replay all the dumb shit Trump has said about women/everyone else

Trump could replay the Hillary barking video, or he could bring up her e-mails and benghazi. Trump already said that most of his comments were showbizz, so he's probably going to shift the rhetoric to become a more presidential candidate.
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>>69248834
> dillutional

Is this a new meme? Am I about to be called a newfag?
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>>69266081
And Trump has already shown that he'll hit the opposing candidate directly if a super PAC comes after him.

As soon as a Hillary PAC launches an ad about Trump's record with women, he'll launch one about Hillary bragging about getting child rapists off as an attorney and all the shit Bill has done to women.
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>>69250472
Assault rifles are useful and necessary for hunting certain pests, such as feral boars.
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>>69247244
>shhh nobody tell him about primary turnout
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>>69249291
Yeah will be so sweet if you all faggots rebel and get killed. We need a right wing purging in this country that is long overdue.
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>>69263386
>He knows the system,
So then it didn't matter, as I knew it wouldn't.

Are you going to trust a recidivist criminal to fix the broken prison system? Are you going to trust a bank robber with the security system to your bank? One who further promises, as Trump does, that he'll use his "skills" when he is so empowered to not materially change things, but only seek marginally better outcomes?
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here, have another pre-election poll
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>>69268411
36 years ago
that's not relevant at all
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>>69254595
All her skeletons are out and have been heavily milked by faux news. It has all leaked and nothing can hurt her now
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>>69268026
Who's going to purge the right? Limpwristed leftists that have never held a gun? Newsflash sonny boy; the police and military are HEAVILY right wing.
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>>69249840
Reagan was losing at this point too. The world sure enjoyed president Carter's second term right?
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>>69266862
Trump insures that Democratic general electorate turnout would be massive.

To primary turnout, many Democrats are already resigned to the fact that their race is a settled issue, and don't see Sander's challenge as serious, or supportable. Many more still are entering the Republican primary system rather than their own with the intention of participating in the referendum on Trump; some for, in order to elevate a weak opponent (some few with intentions of supporting Trump through for his democrat-friendly positions), some against for their loathing of the man. To a large extend, the Dem primary is being hidden from public view, with debates variously being put up against football games with playoff implications or simply on Saturday date nights, that the public not see how far left Hillary has to go in order to fend off Bernie's flanking maneuver.

Don't be fooled by the media implication to the suppressed Dem turnout that their base won't be motivated to show up, especial if their opponent is the manifestation of every negative meme the Dems have painted the Republicans as being for generations.
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>>69269217
Absolute horseshit. Turnout has been only slightly lower than 2012 turnout and Obongo only carried the minority vote because he was a nigger.
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>>69250472
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>>69268411
The same that's been refuted many times already ITT? (>>69255124, >>69258407, >>69261747, >>69269148)
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>>69263348
While you see that, rational human, trump supporters see this
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>>69268393
Considering that, for 30 years, he's been a lot more consistent in his views than critics like Cruz give him credit for (on trade, tax cuts, foreign policy, social issues, etc.), I do believe that it's his true intention to change the system. It's the very reason why he doesn't accept money from special interests. He could have made the decision to not spend his own money.
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>>69270415
lol

stolen
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>>69247244
And that's why I'm voting for Shillary, OP, because I hate America and I hate Americans and I have no doubt that this worthless fucking cunt will do the best job of destroying America of any of the candidates. Happy yet?
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>>69266181
>People got a very short memory.
Not when they're bombarded with negative attack ads every 5 seconds
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>>69248704
>pre ge polling before ge even starts

Jesus Christ don't act so fucking stupid
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>>69247244
REMINDER THAT POLLING DATA IS MEANT TO SHAPE PUBLIC OPINION IN MODERN AMERICA, NOT MEASURE IT
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>>69270751
>Considering that, for 30 years, he's been a lot more consistent in his views than critics like Cruz give him credit for (on trade, tax cuts, foreign policy, social issues, etc.)
Vague notions don't count as detailed views. Anyone in politics could say a general thing that "bad trade deals hurt American workers" or the sort . . . and they do, all the time. When you look at those stances Trump does take on policy, he flip flops like a Romney on steroids.
>I do believe that it's his true intention to change the system
Now, that's the thing. Much of Trump's support is based on an emotional response, to which Trump goes to great lengths to engineer. He's a very good marketer. But the substance to that image is lacking. He's former establishment by his own words, and promises no earthshaking changes much like Obama campaigned on. It's all about tinkering within the framework of the system as it now is. As if all we need to do is swap out people at the head of hundreds of agencies and suddenly government is going to be firing on all pistons, working for the people. Because Washington is the engine of the country ...? No, that's exactly what the viewpoint of the establishment IS. Their power derives from the deals they make from the focus of centralized power; Washington. Look beyond the emotional responses, and Trump is telling you nothing will substantially change.

Cruz is not nearly as good a self-promoter, but he's good enough, and has the history to back up the trust he should hold in voters that he'd dedicate himself to changing the status quo.
>It's the very reason why he doesn't accept money from special interests. He could have made the decision to not spend his own money.
He doesn't have to to begin with (he didn't just jump into the race in an information vacuum; he realized the power behind the anti-establishment movement and remolded himself to appeal to it), and definitely doesn't when media advances him as much free media as it does.
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>>69273243
What is she going to show? A Rosie O' Donnell video? A few of his tweets? That violent protesters deserve bad treatment?

If anything, people would be more likely to vote for him.
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>>69273512
sure do
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>>69273576
Cruz used to be pro-amnesty, and now he pretends to be a hardliner. He's copying Trump's stances just so that he can ride Trump's populist wave. Cruz does accept money from special interests, and it's quite clear that he' sucking Jew cock to get that money.

*drops mic*
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>>69274286
>Cruz used to be pro-amnesty
>He's copying Trump's stances
>Cruz is owned by special interest money.
Only in Trump the bizzaro world of Trump Generals
>*drops mic*
where this has more value than facts.
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>>69247244
Yeah no one's denying it's data you dumby, but it's bordering on meaningless data
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>>69248576
Bombings in Europigger matter not. Billary II Omnipotens will never allow herself to be indicted.

The Niggus will outvote you. Again. The Niggus always wins.
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>muh march general election polls

this is all the shills have left now
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>>69273512
>Reminder that anon is a hidden faggot lurking behind its computer screen pretending that meme-fisting = reality.
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>>69275596
http://hotair.com/archives/2015/11/12/team-rubio-heres-a-video-from-2013-of-ted-cruz-pushing-legalization-for-illegals/

Here are your facts.
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>>69247244
fugg, Trump is stumped
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>>69275975
>Here are my lies.
And your vid has been debunked thousands of times.

To say that Ted Cruz was for amnesty when he built his reputation fighting against it at the forefront of media attention even as Trump was criticizing Romney for being too harsh on immigration is the height of hypocrisy.

>supporting a candidate who is for touchback amnesty and being against one who is for following a law that has no amnesty, and having to reverse people's impressions to do it
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OP is a faggot
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are all of you faggots too ignorant about science/charts that you dont know to look at the same size?

they are predicting a general election off of 800-1000 registered voters, with no data given for the demographics of those couple hundred people.

fuck off
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>>69277173
Cruz might claim such things, but it's not at all based on reality.

http://us.cnn.com/2016/01/06/politics/ted-cruz-immigration-2016-election/
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>>69275715
It is data that doesn't fit your political outlook, so therefore it is meaningless.
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>~1000 sample vote
>before generals
>meaning anything

Yes, he is TRULY btfo.
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