Why is this guy praised so much by Americans as a totally pure and honest person? He's the biggest hypocrite in the race.
How is he a hypocrite? He never had a job just like a socialist. How is he impure? Birds land on him.
>>69164877
>lazy old jew preaches socialism
sounds honest to me, desu
Of course.
>>69164877
Because no serious person thinks he win or do anything he says, so nobody bothers with criticizing him.
>>69164938
Birds feed on him
>>69164938
The bird that landed was literally the nigger of birds. They steal and kill everything they can and make nests on the bodies.
>>69164877
"Americans" (thanks directly to you, Mexico) have become a lot more left leaning socialist in the younger generations.
They don't have a good understanding of economics, history, or the country they live in. They just like anyone who threatens the capitalist "1% white" boogeyman and promises "change!"
Because this is what Jewish social media and teachers/professors tell them to believe in.
The cold war never ended, its just being fought 100% within American borders now. And the Bolsheviks are winning by using mass immigration, and liberal indoctrination compounded with ultra sensitive racial hate mongering hypocrisy.
>>69165166
this pham
>>69164877
He's an old guy who promises a bunch of free shit, so they ignore the rough edges and pretend he's not a communist jew.
Actually, no, that's not right. They don't ignore that he's a communist. They openly embrace that he's a communist. They hate capitalism because they're failures at life and want the government to give them everything. They're too stupid to realize that with unchecked immigration, a massive welfare state, and job makers leaving by the thousands, that the United States will turn into a completely shithole.
>>69164877
"When you’re white, you don’t know what it’s like to be living in a ghetto. You don’t know what it’s like to be poor."
- Bernie "Actually More Racist Than Trump" Sanders
>>69165897
He misspoke. Clearly he doesn't believe that. His parents were poor immigrants from Poland.
>>69166053
He's had a lot of "mis-speakings".
>>69164877
I think he's a pure and honest person. I also think he's crazy for honestly believing in the values he believes in.
>>69166184
I know some of those aren't true so it makes me question the rest
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGqcO1nhglM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_GqiAEFzFg
Yeah, he's pretty fuggin hypocritical
>>69165716
>The cold war never ended, its just being fought 100% within American borders now. And the Bolsheviks are winning by using mass immigration, and liberal indoctrination compounded with ultra sensitive racial hate mongering hypocrisy.
this
>>69167112
thanks bro
>>69164877
"Low-information voters" tend to hear, absorb, and believe any statement on a subject about which they are uninformed, as long as they hear it 5+ times in a few days.
>I think Bernie is an insane socialist whose policies will never work,
>But he seems like a really nice guy, just like my friends on facebook said
>>69166053
Jews are only white when it is convenient. Just like how Judaism is a religion, unless you're an atheist Jew and then it's actually a culture, also you have to be born a Jew, but you can still convert, goyim, but really if your mum wasn't a jew you'll always be a goy
>>69164877
Have you seen the other candidates? He's as pure as snow compared to everyone else.
I've never met someone with a stable career who is voting for him.....
>>69168066
he's an insane senile old kike who has never worked a day in his life and adopts/jettisons policies to get elected just like the rest of them. He used to oppose amnesty because it diluted working men's wages. What happened to that?
Bernie is a cuck, that's what happened to it.
>>69165716
>They don't have a good understanding of economics, history, or the country they live in.
Ironically, this sentence perfectly describes every red baiting faggot on this board.
>>69164938
The crowd probably thought that bird was 800 delegates
>>69166612
>"When you’re white, you don’t know what it’s like to be living in a ghetto. You don’t know what it’s like to be poor."
Meanwhile he practically brags about having being poor when he was young like it gives him more qualification.
>"Trump needs to tell his supporters to be less violent"
Meanwhile refuses to take responsibility for his own supporters rioting at Trump rallies.
>"Donald Trump's supporters are just angry"
Meanwhile he justifies his voter base by claiming that they're "mad" or "sick and tired".
>>69164877
Because he's an establishment jew posing as a "radical freedom fighting rebel"
>fight the power, pay higher taxes!
>would a jew lie to you?
>>69168490
Please point out which candidate has not changed their views on any issues at all and I'll gladly take back what I said.
>>69164877
His intentions sound pure. He has that whole "kindly grandfather" aura. Is he right? No. But he seems genuine, and I feel bad for him whenever people take the hate too far.
>>69167876
Im a jew Ive never heard this line of thinking within my family. We consider ourselves ethically jewish because Judaism is defined as a race( which /pol/ and Hitler agree with). I never heard the word goyim before I came on this board.
>inb4 JIDF
Also Trump came out in full support of Israel, atleast I know hes on my side :)
The only people who don't wanna vote for him are the uneducated, the ignorant, or salty $200k+ a year people.
>>69164938
Birds land on you when you're a rotting sack of corpse.
It makes sense that it approached Bernie, probably the first Bird that ever approached him.
>>69171284
OR maybe he's just so humble that mother nature is comfortable with him. Not that you would know what being humble is like
>>69171515
>a fucking bird represents """""""mother nature""""""""
Honestly I feel kinda bad for Sandercucks, their candidate is so failed they'd rather talk about a bird instead of how they not fuck up as a collective.
>>69164938
>>69165041
http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2016/01/bernie-sanders-family-money
>>69164877
Bernie supporter just called me and and woke me up from 2nd nap.
I asked her 'What is Mr. Sanders stance on dank memes?'
She sounded old and confused.
>>69172067
Guarantee you that they start using that bird to raise money
>>69171019
>Trump came out in full support of Israel
If he wants to be an American politician, he basically has to. Not to suggest he doesn't, anyway, but still, you gotta play the game.
>>69172067
https://img0.etsystatic.com/124/1/11947134/il_570xN.946740046_49js.jpg
>implying they didn't already leap onto the opportunity as soon as humanly possible
sorry for double posting
>>69174324
Great but dont project fantasies onto him and think hes still for your "cause" of whiteness. You honestly think one of the elite just turned around and isnt still chumming around with the jew elite you guys hate?
I guarantee when hes in office the funding to Israel isnt gonna be stopping anytime soon :)
>Hypocrite
Explain. He's been very consistant with policy his entire career. You could argue he knows he's promising things he can't deliver but I wouldn't say he's a hypocrite.
>>69175325
who's projecting anything onto him? I'm saying I don't doubt he still supports Israel anyway, according to his statements to the press, but he could also just be playing the political game and going with whatever Israel says, lest he should lose right-wing support
>>69164877
Primarily his virtue is that he's not Hillary. Trump is still better though.
>>69168538
kek
>>69164877
hes the definition of an "all talk, no action"
he has accomplished absolutely nothing in his life besides being elected to office. even in office, he did nothing
>>69164877
20 Years and congress and not a single bill passed
His entire platform is that he voted. That's all he's done. He's also displayed complete unwillingness to negotiate and acted like a petulant entitled child his entire tenure.
It's a disgrace even more so when you realize he's never held a career in the private sector or outside of politics.
He was a man with life given to him, nothing was ever taken.
>>69175325
>You honestly think one of the elite just turned around
Actually, yes. That's exactly what happened. During the industrial era, we had one group of monied elite who tried their hand at social engineering, based on the idea that whites were superior and that the british would some day retake their colonies. Then they died. Their children/successors did not follow that ideology and used the existing political and economic mechanisms for their own purposes. And then they died. Now we have a group of elites 2-3 generations removed from the original establishment, and they have their own goals and objectives yet they are still piggybacking on the success of the previous generations.
There is a conspiracy. There is always a conspiracy. but it isn't some unbroken chain. Nobody is in charge and objectives constantly switch, which is why they never achieve their end goals.
You can see this most obviously in the liberal left and their alliance with islam. The left didn't voluntarily join with the arab nations. Rather, the arabs saw an oppertunity to inject themselves into the power vacuum left by the fall ofthe soviet union. They co-opted the rhetoric and ideology to manipulate the cogs already in the socialist/globalist machine, but their end game goal is global islam, not socialism or communism. But the left still sides with them because the arabs understand how to manipulate the left through the existing mechanisms of rhetoric and such.
Everyone is in it for themselves, and sometimes their interests align. But its just that: interests. And interests can change. No matter who is president, they will still support israel to some extent because the infrastructure, the networking and all the support mechanisms are already there.
>>69164877
Regardless of whether you think his policies are bad or not, he's easily the most honest and genuine contender.
You might think he'll fuck the country, but at least he'll do it exactly how he said he would.
>>69170904
Find that on blacked.com?
>>69177827
Shut up, cuck
TRUMP is the most honest candidate
>>69165716
Just because this was well articulated doesn't mean it's absolute horseshit.
>>69171515
Bird and other creatures flocked to Hitler during his outside strolls. Guess that means Hitler was a good person after all. :^)
>>69164877
Have you ever heard of the holocaust?
>>69178482
lol
>>69164877
he's praised by brain dead idiots and mostly societal failures. Literally anytime you see someone that's like a total fag or complete hipster failure at life that blames everyone but themselves for their shit place in life you can guarantee that their a Bern victim
>>69179197
He was, anon. He was.
>>69164877
Because Americans are still blissfully unaware of what scum politicians really are.
t.Born in the USSR
>>69180237
>Sanders
>scum politician
>not Shillary Clinton
>or Trump who literally uses tabloid stories against his opponents.
At least Sanders cares about working people's interests, can say the same about anyone else running.
>>69179317
>I don't have a rebuttal, so I'll post this funny maymay xD
>>69180813
Trump literally contradicts himself every other day. He's almost as wishy washy as hillary.
>>69164877
I make right at 50 grand a year, married, this mother fuck when compared to Trump would cost me $10,000 more in a year in taxes. Fucking insane.
>>69180780
Hahaha.
You really think that either him or Clinton really care about ignoble people like you or me?
>>69181532
If you are a worker, young person, or poor person, Sanders cares. That's his thing. He's actively sought out Trump supporters too.
>>69172067
You sound mad and insecure. Or just immature, young and dumb. Either way im glad im not the person responsible for puttinf up with you
>>69164877
I can understand not liking the dude, but how is he a bigger hypocrite than Hillary?
>>69181739
Grow up kid. At the end of the day, he cares about implementing his version of America which will ruin countless lives to get there.
>>69181325
Do you have evidence to prove your claim? Or are you just expressing someone else's idea?
>>69181035
Bold statement with 0 sources. At least with Hillary there is a 9 minute video you can find with a quick google search, highlighting her flops
>>69182088
Welcome to politics you fuck boy. The whole social world works the way in which you described. Someone else has to lose so someone else can "get ahead in life".
>>69181739
A single person making $15 dollars an hour would pay right near $6000 more to Bernie when compared to Trump.
These are the people they are targeting, the low income folks. He's fucking going to shanghai their fuckin money and someone how he has their hearts, what a bunch of fuckin idiots.
>>69182161
>what is trump's statments on torture
>what is the david duke debacle
>what is his stance on wages
>>69182137
http://thefreethoughtproject.com/online-calculator-tells-paycheck-presidential-candidate/
>>69182088
Capitalism already ruins countless lives. His vision of america is better than Trump or Hillary's, which is just the same america plus idpol. I think he should go further and embrace market socialism.
>>69182323
Sources? If not then you're trolling. His "target" for his tax plan are people who make more than 200k a year, and last time I checked that's 0 people who make $15 an hour or less
>>69182296
No shit buddy. I lived a country that had the political system that Sanders wanted and I much rather vote for a candidate that does less damage to ordinary people and me.
>>69182323
A minimum wage person would be paying more under trump thanks to higher prices thanks to his tariffs. A minimum wage person under sanders would be paying less on healthcare and get paid leave with their taxes.
>>69182702
>what is the democratic part of democratic socialism
he's not a fucking tankie dude.
>>69182510
>And, to fund his grandiose plan of government paying for nearly everything in our lives, Bernie Sanders proposes tax rates taking over half of the income of certain individuals.
>of certain individuals
Wow look at all these trufax. This is a shit source m8
>>69164877
My in-laws worship this motherfucker like he's the second coming of Jesus.
I feel like throwing up every time they suck him off.
"Bernie Sanders is the most honest politician that has ever lived and is the only candidate that has real American values."
Fucking PUKE.
MAGA
>>69182651
fuckin listed the source right up there, just look at his bracket percentages
>>69182421
>what are sources
i'm on mobile
>>69183256
We'll they're kinda right, and the public evidence is in recorded history, which is free to access if you have internet
>>69164877
i really hope he wins his primary because it would be so fun to see Trump taking this never had a job loser apart
>>69183353
Wait, do you want me to give sources or do you think I'm asking for sources?
>>69183400
The penalty for treason is death.
>>69182592
Let me tell you a little secret, socialism is unsustainable and while a few people live to see benefits of such a system it will eventually crash on itself. The Soviet Union did, China nearly did, places like North Korea and Cuba are barely holding on after robbing their people of everything, Scandinavian countries and Europe have begun their trek towards collapse as we speak. Capitalism is unfair, but so is life, and I much rather suffer because of my own actions rather than someone else's. I already lived through enough of that.
>>69182421
Are you trying to support your argument or what?
>>69183314
Are you retarded?? That 37% (lowest IN THE ARTICLE) bracket means someone making almost $500k a year. That's five hundred thousand dollars. Do you make anywhere near that much? No? Then stop pretending like you know what you're talking about, and please stop ignoring the facts that his tax plan won't hurt you at all. The calculator thing in the "source" you provided is also bullshit btw.
>>69183603
We don't live in trumps America yet, so tough luck m8
>>69184098
fuckin lol, it's not hte lowest, the percentages involved in the calculation i used of 50k single filing was 23.7
http://taxfoundation.org/article/details-and-analysis-senator-bernie-sanders-s-tax-plan
is that a better source? fuck off you nanny state loving leech, make your own fuckin money fuck off from my piggy bank commie
>>69183608
>socialism is unsustainable
>capitalism literally has crisis every 7 years
Regardless, all those countries never really changed the relation of workers to the means of production significantly. Only countries that have come close were Yugoslavia, which would have done decently if both the east and the west hadn't fucked it over, as well as cleaned up some government corruption, and Rojava, the region which is currently kicking the ass of the richest terrorist organization in the world.
>>69183616
http://www.ibtimes.com/after-donald-trump-flip-flop-torture-veterans-still-support-republican-front-runner-2330618
http://www.factcheck.org/2016/03/trumps-david-duke-amnesia/
http://www.politico.com/story/2015/11/donald-trump-wages-215812
>>69184374
>>69184374
Here we go again with "that wasn't true socialism" argument.
I much rather have a relatively small crisis every several years than seeing a complete collapse in the society, economy, and the politics at the end.
>>69185015
Words have definitions. And regardless, I gave you two examples of actual socialism.
>>69185015
You can't argue with Berniecucks, they are so fuckin sold on the Koolaid of racking up god fucking knows how much debt from college and day trading weed stocks and then having it forgiven because "lol, the govt will gibs and you don't need accountability, it's ok!"
Fuckin commies
>>69185897
>trading stocks
>commies
my gott
>>69185582
Yes words do have definitions and your kind continue to change them with every chance you have.
If you knew a little about Yugoslavia, you would know that the only reason they didn't collapse earlier is because their strongman leader lived for quite some time. It became pretty apparent there that the writing was on the wall after Tito died.
Kurdistan is an awful example because you have never seen the "country" in peace time. They would not be winning if it wasn't for their alliance with the Syrian government and a lot of help from Russian and American warplanes striking ISIS targets.
>>69171237
<<<THIS MUST BE YOU
One of those highly educated, highly enlightened Bernie Fans
You know the Drill, Vote for Hill
Otherwise you're gonna let Trump win you stupid shits.
>>69185897
True. I like getting into arguments with their kind though. Makes /pol/ a little less of a circlejerk for me.
>>69168538
This was funny the first time.
>>69164877
i would support Bernie or Trump. anything to avoid Hillary
>>69186467
>Yes words do have definitions and your kind continue to change them with every chance you have.
The definition of socialism since Marx has been worker ownership of the means of production.
What's your definition of capitalism?
>If you knew a little about Yugoslavia, you would know that the only reason they didn't collapse earlier is because their strongman leader lived for quite some time. It became pretty apparent there that the writing was on the wall after Tito died.
They might have survived if they hadn't been so loaded up on IMF debt that it crashed their economy. The crises were economic as well as political.
>Kurdistan is an awful example because you have never seen the "country" in peace time.
I guess we'll have to wait and see then
>They would not be winning if it wasn't for their alliance with the Syrian government and a lot of help from Russian and American warplanes striking ISIS targets.
Iraq and some syrian rebel groups are supposed to have US air support, hasn't helped them as much.
>>69164877
Because the news doesn't cover Bernie and the stupid shit he says. He contradicts himself all the time, but nobody's really listening because he has that rambling old man voice where you tune him out after 10 seconds.
If Hernie Panders got the same media coverage and relentlessness as Trump, he'd have probably died from a heart attack. You call him out once and his head starts glowing red.
>>69164938
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGqcO1nhglM
>>69187145
>implying trump isn't encouraging violence
He wasn't being hypocritical dumbass. Whereas he hasn't condoned violence, trump has
And regardless, name one policy issue he's contradicted himself on. He's stump speech has been pretty much the same for twenty five years.
>>69164877
Him and his supporters are the biggest hypocrites I've ever seen. At least Trump and his fans are honest about their shit.
>>69184359
Thank you, I love seeing berniebots get rekt and disappear. <3
>>69168608
Bernie never said he'd pay anyone's legal bills. I don't see how he's encouraged attacks in any way. At worst he's failed to denounce them. Trump openly condones protesters being approached with aggression.
>>69188352
You and me both.
>>69187207
>The definition of socialism since Marx has been worker ownership of the means of production.
There we go with changing of definitions. Socialism implies that the government controls the means of production.
>What's your definition of capitalism?
In the simplest terms, an economic system controlled by private and corporate means.
>They might have survived if they hadn't been so loaded up on IMF debt that it crashed their economy. The crises were economic as well as political.
Still shows that governments are not to be trusted with the entire economy.
>I guess we'll have to wait and see then
Sure will. With all the infrastructure they have to restore, I don't have high hopes for them.
>Iraq and some syrian rebel groups are supposed to have US air support, hasn't helped them as much.
Iraq is doing rather well nowadays. They recently began operations to clear out Mosul (Eastern Capital of ISIS). The US supported Syrian rebels have not fared well under Russian bombings.
>>69188196
> He's stump speech has been pretty much the same for twenty five years.
Dementia does unfortunately cause unnecessary and inappropriate repetition.
>>69188642
Oh yes, and my ID changed too. Was this at first: >>69186467
>>69185897
Huh. I'm employed and make six figs. I have no debt. Bernie probably appeals to the straw man of which you speak. But some people just like his policies. ?
>>69188642
>There we go with changing of definitions. Socialism implies that the government controls the means of production.
Wrong, it is possible for socialism to occur when the government controls the means of production, but only when it is credible that the workers control the government, which has never been the case.
>In the simplest terms, an economic system controlled by private and corporate means.
Well that's led to a lot of shit, now hasn't it. Honduras has capitalism you know.
Wouldn't it be better if we had a system where the workers owned the enterprise they worked at? We'd have higher growth thanks to an increase in the velocity of money as well as more equity.
He had to write masturbation stories to eat you sorry bastards!!
>>69188196
Trump encourages self-defense, not outright violence. It's Sanders' supporters who are intent on violence and calling for Trump's assassination. Then they turn around and say "b-but Trump said violent things! We're using preventative violence!"
>>69189159
>Wrong, it is possible for socialism to occur when the government controls the means of production, but only when it is credible that the workers control the government, which has never been the case.
Incorrect. All those communist revolutions (Russian Civil War, Chinese Civil War, etc.) were lead and composed of workers.
>Well that's led to a lot of shit, now hasn't it.
No, it really has not.
>Honduras has capitalism you know.
And so is the United States. What is your point?
>Wouldn't it be better if we had a system where the workers owned the enterprise they worked at?
No it wouldn't. The workers will get sloppy.
>We'd have higher growth thanks to an increase in the velocity of money as well as more equity.
Hahaha
>>69167112
That second link was dumb. I closed out when he started going on about WW2 and Japanese relocation. What the fuck does that have to do with Bernie? Not going to listen to 10 minute wikipedia audiobook. First one was good though.
>>69170446
I still have a difficult time understanding how he managed to have a campaign after the BLM STL fiasco.
>>69190003
>Trump encourages self-defense, not outright violence.
That'd debatable.
>It's Sanders' supporters who are intent on violence and calling for Trump's assassination.
You can find absurd statements on both sides.
>>69190292
He didn't. He's losing convincingly.
>>69190457
"convincingly" to everyone but his supporters.
>>69190033
>All those communist revolutions (Russian Civil War, Chinese Civil War, etc.) were lead and composed of workers.
The problem is not the revolution, but the government subsequently created. The workers were unable to hold the bureaucrats accountable.
>And so is the United States. What is your point?
We still have plenty of capitalist crises and injustices here too.
>No it wouldn't. The workers will get sloppy.
>implying owners aren't sloppy now
http://www.reuters.com/investigates/section/the-cannibalized-company/
>Hahaha
Prove me wrong faggot.
>>69190396
Except Trump's violence only happens inside his rallies against belligerent, insulting protesters who are trespassing and being vulgar.
Sanders' supporter violence is organized in huge numbers in an attempt to shut down free speech and hurt people, using language calling Trump a racist and a hatemonger and more. They're trying to escalate the situation and inflame tempers and repeatedly break the god damned law by trespassing on Trump's events.
>>69190669
>The problem is not the revolution, but the government subsequently created. The workers were unable to hold the bureaucrats accountable.
No, the problem is that the workers became the bureaucrats. Which is what you are advocating.
>We still have plenty of capitalist crises and injustices here too.
Believe me, it isn't half as bad as you make it out to be.
>>implying owners aren't sloppy now
>http://www.reuters.com/investigates/section/the-cannibalized-company/
Why make the problem even worse then?
>>Hahaha
>Prove me wrong faggot.
North Korea
>>69190692
>Except Trump's violence only happens inside his rallies against belligerent, insulting protesters who are trespassing and being vulgar.
>trumps violence only happens where trump supporters are
>Sanders' supporter violence is organized in huge numbers in an attempt to shut down free speech and hurt people, using language calling Trump a racist and a hatemonger and more.
>peaceful protesting shuts down free speech
>They're trying to escalate the situation and inflame tempers and repeatedly break the god damned law by trespassing on Trump's events.
>trespassing to events open to anyone who RSVP's on a website
>>69191093
>No, the problem is that the workers became the bureaucrats.
>There were no workers in the Soviet Union, only bureaucrats
>Which is what you are advocating.
How?
>Believe me, it isn't half as bad as you make it out to be.
Did you loose your home in the Sub-Prime Mortgage crisis?
>Why make the problem even worse then?
>Implying it can get any worse
>North Korea
LMAO. North Korea doesn't even pretend to be socialism anymore, they formally removed all references to it in their constitution in like 2006.
North Korea doesn't have worker ownership of the means of productions or their enterprises.
BTW, when I talk about workers owning their enterprises I mean co-ops and market socialism.
>>69164877
He's been pretty consistent in being a pinko and being an unemployed loser who doesn't know dick about the private sector for the entirety of his life
Only read first twenty posts but
>never worked a day in his life
Listed on his Wikipedia page. You people are intentionally retarded, aren't you?
>>69184611
>torture
He said he would bring back waterboarding and worse. He was told that was illegal, so he said that he would act within the laws but work to make them less restrictive.
That's not inconsistent.
>David Duke
He never said that he liked the endorsement. He has only disavowed it, and he has done so several times. He seemed confused once, and said something very reasonable, but apparently that isn't acceptable.
Still never did anything inconsistent.
>wages too high
That article is about how he clarified his statements after assholes like you took them out of context, and yet here you are doing it again.
Still not inconsistent.
>>69182702
1. Sanders is not running on a "socialist" platform. He's trying to bring basic social benefits to America that every developed country already offers. In the past, he has stated something to the effect of "I don't support the grocery store down the street being run by the government." Whether or not "democratic socialist" even accurately describes his beliefs is up to debate and I don't really want to take that route, but let me tell you that if anything, I believe he decided to wear the socialist label largely in order to preemptively put the predictable red baiting he would face to rest. Obama is nowhere close to being a socialist, but his policies have, for a long time, been derailed as Islamic Gommunism.
2. My family is from the former USSR and there's no one you will find who hates communism more than my parents, but the one thing I have never heard them say is "Hey, you know what would be great? If I was paying more for private insurance." Communism didn't fail because of universal healthcare, and to suggest so would make you disingenuous at best and utterly retarded at worst.
>>69191788
Wait a minute, I just realized why you're supporting sanders so much. You're a Canadian! You're trolling attempts are off the wall, 10/10, you got me gr8.
How's your Canadian dollar btw? :^) doesn't it feel good knowing how weak your currency is thanks to refugees and socialism?
>>69191123
It's not peaceful if it's interrupting a private event. It IS trespassing you mong
>>69192434
>It's not peaceful if it's interrupting a private event.
>violence is making noise hurting muh feels
>>69191479
>There were no workers in the Soviet Union, only bureaucrats
Those who were workers before and partook in the revolution became bureaucrats.
>How?
>The problem is not the revolution, but the government subsequently created. The workers were unable to hold the bureaucrats accountable.
(>>69190669)
>The definition of socialism since Marx has been worker ownership of the means of production.
(>>69187207)
>Did you loose your home in the Sub-Prime Mortgage crisis?
I love it how liberals try to make 2008 look like the holocaust. Try all of that along with hyperinflation and major shortages of goods.
>>Implying it can get any worse
Poor man, you don't know what will come.
>LMAO. North Korea doesn't even pretend to be socialism anymore, they formally removed all references to it in their constitution in like 2006.
Fine. Let's look at North Korea before 2006. In case you didn't know, it was a pretty shitty situation for a few decades.
>North Korea doesn't have worker ownership of the means of productions or their enterprises.
Yes it did. I have family members that visited North Korea decades ago.
>BTW, when I talk about workers owning their enterprises I mean co-ops and market socialism.
That isn't what you are advocating for.
>>69192114
The Canadian dollar is currently largely so weak because half of our economy relies on oil. Guess where that oil is located? That's right, it's located in the most conservative province. Meanwhile, the liberal Marxist commie pinko provinces like Ontario and Quebec constitute the other half. And Canada is experiencing a loss of jobs largely for the same reasons as the US: outsourcing. If progressives are cucks, it's largely because they have to silently foot the bill for conservative retards like you who thank us by spreading disinfo.
It doesn't really matter to me personally if Sanders is elected or not. I'd rather you get Trump or Clinton because it's infinitely more amusing to watch you drive your own country into the ground with a smug shit eating grin.
>>69185897
Hmm Bernie opposed the bailout. Suck it
>>69192543
>invade and interrupt a private event yelling racial slurs and hateful language
>get in people's faces and incite a SINGLE person in the audience to violence
WAHHHH
>organize massive protests and invade private spaces and block entrances and tear down secret service tents, injure cops, block ambulances
totally peaceful brah
>>69192588
>Those who were workers before and partook in the revolution became bureaucrats.
Obviously not all of them, and regardless, the word worker refers to a relation to the means of production, by becoming bureaucrats they were no longer "workers"
>The problem is not the revolution, but the government subsequently created. The workers were unable to hold the bureaucrats accountable.
(>>69190669 (You))
>The definition of socialism since Marx has been worker ownership of the means of production.
I sense you're trying to point out some kind of inconstancy, but I'm not seeing it. Are you implying ownership does not imply control?
>I love it how liberals try to make 2008 look like the holocaust
I'm not a liberal. I'm a leftist.
>Fine. Let's look at North Korea before 2006. In case you didn't know, it was a pretty shitty situation for a few decades.
>Anything that says its socialism is socialism
>Just like how anything that says its democracy is democracy
I thought we agreed already that words have definitions?
>Yes it did. I have family members that visited North Korea decades ago.
And in what way did the workers own the means of production?
>That isn't what you are advocating for.
>I'm not advocating for what I'm advocating for
lol wut.
>>69192821
>unlike Trump supporters
>who are good boys who didn't do nuffin
>they need a safe space from all these Berniebro shitlords
>>69192627
>it doesn't really matter to me if Bernie wins or not
>posts Bernie propaganda about him being so gr8
It's obvious that you're back pedaling so hard right now. Typical Canadian can't argue worth a damn.
>>69193411
Berniebros are the ones saying that being offended gives them the right to shut down Trump's rallies and block doorways and get in people's faces.
Let me know when thousands of Trump supporters swarm and try to shut down a Bernie rally. Then you can act like their agitation is equal.
>>69184359
>>69188352
Right. You don't want his tax plan. The alternative is corporate and Chinese owned America but by all means, defend your entitled opinions.
>>69193613
Hey, you're the one who says if you talk shit you should get hit. Trump's like that except on a national level.
I personally don't give a shit, but if this turns into a repeat of Wiemar germany, I know which side I'll be on.
>>69193809
>on a national level
This goes without saying but sadly needs to be said: that's a bad thing when it gets to that point.
>>69193809
It's a degree of talking shit though. Trump supporters attend a rally as a private event to hear Trump speak. Berniefags interrupting it and shouting until they're escorted out is going to inflame tempers, and yet out of the hundreds of interrupted rallies only two people have gotten angry enough to hit someone.
TWO
Sanders supporters regularly hurt people and cause public disturbance with illegal activity, blocking doorways, tearing down property, hurting horses, blocking traffic, etc. etc. etc.
So go fuck yourself if you think both sides are equal in violence here.
>>69193905
He's the one who wants to be president of the entire united states of america.
>>69194033
Not the guy you replied to but you sound like a violent type.
>>69194085
Which makes it incredibly more of a bad thing...
>>69194033
[Citation Needed]
Also,
>Berniefags interrupting it and shouting until they're escorted out is going to inflame tempers
So's all the shit trump's said.
>>69194153
and you sound like a pussy. Words don't hurt. Berniebros are throwing things, rushing stages, pushing middle fingers in people's faces, and interrupting private events among a long list of shit.
I'm violent for pointing it out. Wew
>>69194274
Is Trump forcing these people to enter his rallies? Do they not have free will?
Who knew Trump was a hypnotist.
>>69194376
I was referring to his notorious statements
>>69187807
The difference is Trump incites violence, or said he'd pay for legal fees. Show me Bernie doing that and Ill agree with you.
>>69194290
You're violent minded which makes you predictable, which means you're stupid.
You wanna judge politicians by the crowds they draw? Based on that, Trump is a fucking loser piece of shit.
>>69194473
If you say Mexicans or Muslims I'm going to call you a retard. He regularly tells his followers to be non-violent and let the police handle it.
But hey, an out of context soundbyte means more than anything
>>69193163
>Obviously not all of them, and regardless, the word worker refers to a relation to the means of production, by becoming bureaucrats they were no longer "workers"
No shit.
>I sense you're trying to point out some kind of inconstancy, but I'm not seeing it. Are you implying ownership does not imply control?
You fail to realize that the bureaucrats were sympathetic to the workers because the bureaucrats once were workers. So the workers were the new government.
>I'm not a liberal. I'm a leftist.
Even worse.
>I thought we agreed already that words have definitions?
We did. Socialism means government controls the market. Such is the case in North Korea.
>And in what way did the workers own the means of production?
Same way in the Soviet Union. Workers who partook in the revolution got management positions and the workers who were the most favored were promoted.
>>I'm not advocating for what I'm advocating for
>lol wut.
Your words do not match up with the ideas you advocate for.
>>69194376
What is self control
>>69194605
Bernie uses violent language by similar metrics. Revolution implies violence. His people think they're fighting a war.
>>69170608
lost
>>69164877
He's such a non-contender that no one sees him as a threat, there's your answer, everything else is based on it.
>>69194616
There's a lot in the subtext
>>69194667
in a crowd of over 10,000 people, it can be reasonably assumed that after interrupting hundreds of events, a single person might be incited. It's purely math at that point. Statistically Trump supporters are non-violent.
>>69194727
oh good, it's all in what he didn't say. Of course! How could I have missed it. It's the implication!
>>69194681
Revolution comes from a Latin eord which means "turn around". That in itself is about as violent as walking or swimming.
You're talking out your ass
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jn7fCT7zkaQ
>>69194791
Sounds like something a person with weak self control would say.
>>69194931
And I feel like your rhetoric is equally talking out your ass. It's based on the media's spin on what Trump says, and if you ever listened to the guy he's not advocating violence.
>>69194642
>You fail to realize that the bureaucrats were sympathetic to the workers because the bureaucrats once were workers. So the workers were the new government.
Self interest created by the system is often more powerful than sympathy. Are you seriously suggesting there would be no policy difference in the USSR had there been actual democracy?
>We did. Socialism means government controls the market. Such is the case in North Korea.
Socialism is worker control of the means of production.
>Same way in the Soviet Union. Workers who partook in the revolution got management positions and the workers who were the most favored were promoted.
But they are no longer workers, so workers did not actively own the means of production. Being a worker is not an inherit characteristic.
>Your words do not match up with the ideas you advocate for.
They do, they just don't line up with your ideological conception of socialism.
>>69188352
>Bernout
>owning a gun
fake as hell.
As a non-murkin I realise that my opinion on US political matters means jack shit in the grand scheme of things but I don't understand how ANYONE could trust this wheezy old kike. I know he's a politician but every fibre of my being screams "don't trust this fucker" whenever he opens his mouth.
And after reading a bunch of shit about his past the other day it completely baffles me how he's managed to accumulate such a following.
>>69195057
Especially not during those times when he talked about punching people, or forcefully throwing people out into the cold. Definitely doesnt imply violence at all.
>>69195206
you're right. Your opinion is pretty bad
>>69195074
>Socialism is worker control of the means of production.
Do you actually think this works? Last time I checked the people were supposed to control the government. That hasn't been working out very well, has it.
>>69195206
such as?
>>69182137
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/2016-race-donald-trump-ted-cruz-hillary-clinton-bernie-sanders-tax-plans-impact/
>>69195343
Trump said he would like to punch someone he didn't tell anybody to punch them.
He was talking to security when he wanted protesters out of the building.
I have great idea. why don't bernouts not protest and attack trump supporters at trump rallies.
>>69195480
No it hasn't. Plenty of "democracies" run into this problem, and when people no longer control the government in those countries, they are no longer democratic. In the same way, when workers do not control the government of a state that owns the means of production, they do not own the means of production, and it is not socialism.
To prevent the problems of the past, I support market socialism, which does not require the state to own the means of production.
>>69195343
He only ever talks about the protesters that interrupt his private events. His most infamous phrase about paying legal fees is about someone preventing someone from throwing a tomato, which is something that he had happen. Elsewise he talks about how rude the protesters are by interrupting and trespassing. He has the legal right to have them arrested but chooses to only have them escorted out.
These people could get 10 years a piece for protesting within a secret service protected event, but Trump is being nice.
He doesn't want to ban Muslims in America. He wants to prevent unvetted migrants from terrorist-heavy areas. He wants to prevent the flow of lawbreakers from pouring over the southern border. He's 100% pro-legal immigration, but people always ignore that part.
His policies are completely common sense for the most part. I used to be for Bernie before I found out how much people lie about Trump's reasonableness. I disagree with him on a couple minor points, but I also disagree with Bernie on things. In the end I think Trump is a more important candidate. Bernie seems to incite division and hatred, his followers becoming more and more violent against people with differing opinions. Meanwhile, Trump's supporters do not.
>>69195714
I have a better idea. Why doesn't Trump drop out?
>>69168492
>Implying
>>69195769
So you don't believe in the whole free healthcare thing. You also don't believe in personal property.
>>69195837
Thats not a better idea thats horrible idea. Why would the next potus drop out? I know you think that retort was very clever but its not. leave the bantz to Australia next time.
>>69195926
I believe in universal healthcare if a people hold a referendum on it.
I also believe in personal property, just not private property. If you have bought something and you use it, it is yours. But if have bought something not for your personal use, but to rent out or pay others a wage to use and then sell whatever they make for a profit, I don't believe that should be your property.
>>69168492
WE WUZ SOCIALISTS N SHIEET
>>69190692
The distinction us irrelevant. Trump ultimately fosters a climate of "feel free to assault protesters at your own discretion" going as far as to day he'd pay legal bills. Bernie might have violent supporters, but Bernie has never called them to those actions in even the vaguest capacity.
If people commit violence in Bernie's name that's on them solely. Bernie isn't saying he'll pay for their lawyers.
>people literally think europe could afford its social programs without the US subsidizing their countries with military support
>they'll bring it up "it works in europe!" until their uneducated throats bleed
>>69195074
>Self interest created by the system is often more powerful than sympathy.
Exactly the case there. You are admitting that the bureaucrats were workers. You did not know this, but policies favoring the workers were chosen back there.
>Are you seriously suggesting there would be no policy difference in the USSR had there been actual democracy?
Point me where I said that.
>Socialism is worker control of the means of production.
Definition changing again.
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/socialism
>Simple Definition of Socialism: a way of organizing a society in which major industries are owned and controlled by the government rather than by individual people and companies
>But they are no longer workers, so workers did not actively own the means of production. Being a worker is not an inherit characteristic.
Not what you admitted earlier.
>They do, they just don't line up with your ideological conception of socialism.
Refer back to the definition.
>>69196272
Liberals everyone, being hypocrites since forever.
Why hasn't Bernie condemned the protestors yet?
Ugh I can't even. Is he a racist!!
>>69195808
>In the end I think Trump is a more important candidate. Bernie seems to incite division and hatred, his followers becoming more and more violent against people with differing opinions. Meanwhile, Trump's supporters do not.
you're not going to get objective reporting on this from anyone; it is difficult to discern exactly how much violence each group does and how much is justified. If you earnestly believe each candidates words they do not support violence, I think its silly that you'd base your choice off of this.
On a more concrete level, Sanders unites via class, whereas Trump divides by race and religion (it's hard to deny he panders to white christian people). There are only two classes, but there are many races and religions.
>>69196367
>You are admitting that the bureaucrats were workers.
What? How?
>You did not know this, but policies favoring the workers were chosen back there.
>Workers wanted to be purged, gulaged, and put in poor working conditions under stalin
>workers wanted to make useless fucking ore and starve under mao
>Point me where I said that.
You implied that since the bureaucrats made policy favorably to workers, the workers owned the means of production.
>Definition changing again.
I have not changed my definition.
>a theory or system of social organization that advocates the vesting of the ownership and control of the means of production and distribution, of capital, land, etc., in the community as a whole.
http://www.dictionary.com/browse/socialism
>Not what you admitted earlier.
I never contradicting that statement.
>>69196157
Go fuck yourself. Why shouldn't I be allowed to sell my skill for a price without having to fuck over the manager.
Why do people who sell their skills to me have any say in what I do with my product.
its simply not equal. Whats going to end up happening is nobody is going to bother innovating or working as the boss. Nobody will follow their passion for ice cream when all of their workers demand it be made of goats milk.
>>69195808
Bernie seems to incite division and hatred, his followers becoming more and more violent against people with differing opinions. Meanwhile, Trump's supporters do not.
>Bernie
>incite division
You're misunderstanding reality behind your *wall* of ignorance. Sanders is 100% about bringing the people together as a nation, and has always been a exemplary advocate for social justice and general decency.
>>69193789
I would gladly live in a world like that and be called entitled for complaining about them than one of communism where I would be slaughtered for going against the status quo.
>>69195034
>Projecting this much
>>69196447
Trump panders to people who work and want to work.
That's why I, as a hispanic, want to vote for Trump.
When I went to a Trump rally, the people there were incredibly nice and I had a great time. There was no alienation of me there. No one cared about my skin color.
Trump treats me like an American rather than a hyphen American.
>>69196447
Sanders supporters go out of the way to attack and annoy Trump supporters. Trump supporters have never flooded a Bernie rally. They have never tried to run on stage and tackle Bernie.
Objectively Bernie sanders divides through classes while Trump unites through nationalism not race.
>>69196943
You say that and yet what do you think will happen if you go against the status quo, in a world literally built upon the fucking status quo... perhaps you should give your idea more thought. Chinese and coorporate america doesnt care about your opinions. Youre only good as a statistic or number among numbers.
>>69196934
You say he unites people but all I've seen from Bernie supporters is violence and smug condescension.
Tell me whenever Trump supporters start blocking ambulances or burning cities.
>>69196915
>Why shouldn't I be allowed to sell my skill for a price without having to fuck over the manager.
Why should the manager get to decide how much you're worth? If you really want to let the market decide, you'd get whatever profit you produced.
>Why do people who sell their skills to me have any say in what I do with my product.
If other people are doing the labor, the product is theirs, not yours.
>Whats going to end up happening is nobody is going to bother innovating or working as the boss.
Why? If people want their ideas to be validated or realized, they'll work to be in charge.
>Nobody will follow their passion for ice cream when all of their workers demand it be made of goats milk.
Another worker owned enterprise could just make regular ice cream.
>>69194516
you need to learn what context is
>>69196915
Oh, you don't make enough money off of your work. I mean in Canada surgeons and doctors make 300k a year.
I agree you shouldn't be allowed to charge unbelievable amounts of money for medical treatment. You know why? Because I would rather people be able to afford to fucking live without being burdened down forever by debt.
>>69196934
Bernie Sanders doesn't seem to be promoting decency when all they do is call people hitler while demonizing and attacking people with other political opinions.
bernie has united anti american socialists and cultural marxists while Trump has united patriots.
>>69197122
>Trump panders to people who work and want to work.
That's a platitude if I've ever heard one.
I'm voting for Sanders because I believe he's moving us in the right direction, towards a more equitable society, as well as a more economically successful country.
I also happen to be hispanic.
>>69196913
>What? How?
Read it again.
>>You did not know this, but policies favoring the workers were chosen back there.
>>Workers wanted to be purged, gulaged, and put in poor working conditions under stalin
Gulags were political prisons.
>>workers wanted to make useless fucking ore and starve under mao
Yes. Because the government was controlled by former workers.
>You implied that since the bureaucrats made policy favorably to workers, the workers owned the means of production.
Go ahead and expand on that. I still see no link with democracy there.
>>Definition changing again.
>I have not changed my definition.
>>a theory or system of social organization that advocates the vesting of the ownership and control of the means of production and distribution, of capital, land, etc., in the community as a whole.
>http://www.dictionary.com/browse/socialism
community as a whole implies government
>I never contradicting that statement.
Refer to point 1
>>69197320
If you understood his plans and policies, you would understand his supporters behavior. They act like that because they are passionate about social and economic justice, and are fed up with people not feeling the same way about it. Go figure.
>>69197067
Thats not what projecting means reddit.
>>69196934
>white people don't know poverty
>fuck the 1%
""""Unity""""
>>69179156
Prove him wrong nigger.
>>69197186
>Trump supporters have never flooded a Bernie rally.
Sanders has never given reason for anyone to.
>Objectively Bernie sanders divides through classes while Trump unites through nationalism not race.
Then how is it he's managed to alienate so many blacks, latinos and muslims?
>>69197536
Trump unites idiots and racists under him, and people who are insecure about their own unlikely fear.
>>69197186
>Trump supporters have never flooded a Bernie rally
Trump supporters actually have to work for a living.
>>69197610
Another way to word that is they're intolerant. Aren't liberals supposed to be tolerant.
And you people call us bigots. You run around screaming at anybody who doesn't want our corrupt government to become bigger and more corrupt.
>>69197267
China is a communist country with zero free speech.
In fact no communist country can actually work with freedom of speech. If Bernie is elected that will actually push the country into a full scale civil war because communism cannot coexist with freedom of speech and rights to protest.
23% on the lowest fucking tax bracket will actually erase this country.
>>69197661
Statistically not many white people experience poverty in america. He was speaking to a target audience there, and from yiur reply, im guessing you fit into that demographic. But if you wanna take him 100% literally and ignore what he was implying, that's your call.
>>69194153
>sound like a violent type
you sound like a huge fucking faggot. instead of arguing or debating your just gonna say he "sounds violent." your the type of person who actually believes all the shit nigs are saying about how police are slaughtering them and the system keeps them down. ive worked and gone to school with many nogs 20% are ok the rest are lazy entitled fucking retards who resort to violence in an instant. the reason im saying this is because i assume your a nigger and you think bernie is gonna crack down on my privilege and give equal rights even tho they are already there
>>69197609
>Read it again.
The first ones were workers, but they were no longer workers when they became bureaucrats. I don't particularly see how its relevant.
>Gulags were political prisons.
Some gulaged were leftists and workers.
>Yes. Because the government was controlled by former workers.
I hope you realize this doesn't make any sense. The bureaucrats were no longer workers and in fact engaged in policies current workers did not like. What's so hard to fathom about that?
>Go ahead and expand on that. I still see no link with democracy there.
Democracy is an easy way to ensure the people control the government.
>community as a whole implies government
Not all governments represent the community as a whole.
>>69198017
>China
>communist
LMAO
>>69198048
The only thing of value in that post is the fact that you pointed out how I don't argue. Especially with idiots :)
>>69197610
>its ok to be a violent agitator and a federal criminal if you're fed up with having to pay for college
>>69198017
If you actually look at the plan the lowest bracket doesn't change from what it is now.
And if you think your communist you are fucking retarded. They are authoritarian. They have free markets and full capitalism.
Unless you want to describe to me how you can be communist without the control the production in your state.
>>69197753
B-b-but RACIST
why must it always end this way? Would it be possible for you to use any tactic other than baseless name calling.
>>69198198
>violent revolution is never justified
ok hobbes. Not saying this is completely justified, but economic conditions is a perfectly legitimate reason for revolt.
>>69198017
Do you actually know what you're talking about? Like at all? Or are you really just using parts of opinions you've heard and throw them together? Do you have any idea of what the brackets actually mean?
>>69198018
Statistically speaking, there are more poor whites than there are poor blacks. Duck off with your disinformation.
>>69198261
>tactic
What are you, a military commander? I'm not interesting in playing the shit throwing game fool. Politics isn't about proving people wrong to me, or arguing about opinions.
>>69197610
>If you understood his plans and policies
I know I do.
Do you?
Or, lets be honest here, have you already decided that anyone who would pay large amounts under his plan deserves to do so? You know, because you support him and so, you don't need to fact check him.
>>69198482
Poor and poverty a not mutually as one
>>69198229
>>69198359
34%*
>>69197721
>Sanders has never given reason for anyone to.
So its okay to be annoying disruptive ass hates as long as the person they disrupt doesn't agree with you.
>>69197721
Alienated coons and wetbacks is the definition of dividing. How can you claim he united everyone if he can't even unite America's poor working class.
>>69198523
>Isn't interested in shit calling.
>Calls him names like fool
Nice
>>69165716
>thanks directly to you, Mexico
Americucks blaming Mexico of the retardedness of their society is one of the most ironic things ever, considering how foreign intervention has rigged every presidential election in this country for the last 28 years.
This applies for most of latin America really (operation condor), and somehow the psy-ops in 4chan have fucked most ameritards into believing jews benefit from a socialist economy, when in reality jews follow a capitalistic incentive (common sense is now a "fallacy" apparently).
Ideollogical libertarianism is not the same as socialism, jews control the US goverment in order to destabilize any country that goes towards socialism through democratic terms (see Chile and Brazil), which is why the establishment is against Bernie Sanders at all cost...
>>69198688
Great. Now factor in the increased minimum wage and tell me what the issue is
>>69165858
>hat the United States will turn into a completely shithole.
It became a shithole under a republican, not a democrat.
>>69198179
Good you can fuck off now right? I'm guessing you think we're all idiots so theres no point to being on this board.
>>69179156
>Trying to inform yourself about the world
>going to 4chan
>going even deeper, into /pol/
>being surprised with the pure cognitive vomit
>mfw
>>69198017
>China is a communist country
you're fucking retarded
ayy
>>69198096
>The first ones were workers, but they were no longer workers when they became bureaucrats. I don't particularly see how its relevant.
They are still going to make policies that are easier for workers.
>Some gulaged were leftists and workers.
They were put there for political reasons. Leftist part is blatantly false too.
>I hope you realize this doesn't make any sense. The bureaucrats were no longer workers and in fact engaged in policies current workers did not like. What's so hard to fathom about that?
That isn't true. You did not know this either but there are plenty in the former USSR that remember it very fondly. Meaning the government then did make policies that the workers liked.
>Democracy is an easy way to ensure the people control the government.
Elaborate. I'm not tracking with the mental acrobatics you are doing.
>>69198880
Nobody needs to be here broham. /pol/ is a shit tier board
>>69198870
You are a hopelessly suicidal individual if you honestly believe for even half a second that the economy or any non $100b+ buisness can survive an increase in taxes of that magnitude AS WELL AS a doubled minimum wage.
Its like you're apart of some death cult.
>>69198875
Nice proxy.
It became a shit hole through democratic policies. You can easily see this everywhere you look. Just look at any democrat controlled area and look how shit it is or will become.
>>69198969
And Manchukuo should know.
>>69199093
Yet you continue to stay and make shittier with your vastly superior """intelligence"""
>>69199164
Tax breaks aren't democratic policies you idiot.
Bush sent your country to hell.
Also, Sanders is merely a centrist according to world wide view. He's only a commie in the US because you have this strange fascination with the soviet union.
It's funny that you fags will fight abortion, but you are somehow against free healthcare.
The irony is obvious.
>>69178295
Nah they're Bernie supporters
>>69199350
you really should fuck off to
>>>/leddit/
It wasn't that obvious you were using 3 proxies until that flag
>>69198261
Trump does unite racist under him. Look at /pol/.
>>69199112
Do you know how much money in off shore banks should actually be in the US economy right now? Trillions.
Increased taxes isn't a joke to the main economic corruptors. They have more money than we can imagine and thats kinda why - because they sneakily make more than they earn, by taking advantage of the economy through ways like wallstreet
>>69199496
>I have no argument
>reddit XD baka senpai
Go choke on horse dick, yank.
>>69199334
Damn son. How's that insecurity complex treating your physical health?
>>69199608
Bush saved the petro dollar and kept the U.S. as the Reserve currency for the fucking world
fuck off troglodyte
