>mfw trumpets think Islam is the problem and not all religion in general
>>69106837
Go to the Vatican and then go to Mecca. Come back and let us know.
>>69106837
Agreed. But you can't argue with faith, and they'll keep indoctrinating the next generation, so it's never gonna stop.
>>69106837
Not all religions are equal.
Even Dawkins had the courage to admit that Christianity is a bulwark against far worse.
"There are no Christians, as far as I know, blowing up buildings,"
"I am not aware of any Christian suicide bombers. I am not aware of any major Christian denomination that believes the penalty for apostasy is death,"
>>69106837
>ockS
OP confirmed for thinking about cocks.
>Bill Nye
OP is also a retard.
>>69107414
>"There are no Christians, as far as I know, blowing up buildings,"
I beg to differ
>>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oklahoma_City_bombing
>>69107414
>Not all religions are equal.
Yes they are, they're all equally delusional.
>>69107499
But did they kill in the name of Christianity?
>>69106837
Christian organizations in Canada offer more food and bedding to homeless people than the government ever has. There are Christians who volunteer full time to help them out, and then you have expensive gov programs like in Vancouver that do hardly anything where they actually help drug addicts shoot up.
>>69107499
lmaooo typical response of a 13 year old edgelord retard
Pretty sure Jesus never instructed anyone to commit mass carnage (as a way to convert).
Unlike the other side.........
>mfw atheists think they're not the greatest problem facing Western civilisation
>>69107721
Honestly that's the good side of Christianity which Islam also shares, hence the "religion of peace" title. But just because sometimes your religion does some good things doesn't mean it doesn't also cause bad things.
>>69106837
He is right in that way that islam is currently the worst religion out there in terms of violence, terror and threat to the rest of the non muslim world. No question about it.
It is the worst and if even atheist see it as a priority to shit on this ideology i have no problem with it, i support it.
>>69106837
Oh look, a redditor
>pic related
Your redpills for the day:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZnkULuWFDg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3qkf3bajd4
bonus: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kuf9d3sci-w
>>69106837
>>69107944
IS BULLSHIT
>>69107762
>gets btfo
>resorts to "well you're 13 years old hurr durr"
>>69107499
McVeigh was an agnostic. He was raised Roman Catholic. Im fucking tired of you faggots who keep quoting Occupy Democrats
You know I've come to realize that in a world where people like Christopher Hitchens and Dawkins exist that there are really two kinds of atheists.
There is the Hitchens type, which basically panders to edgy tryhards who think any and all reliegon is just plain old evil and then there are teh Dawkins types which up until recently i thought were just the same as Hitchens babbies.
Dawkins actually sees teh value in faith, devotion and beliving in something greater than one's self in order to provide a stable foundation for benificial morals and society.
>>69108018
HOW DID I NOT THINK OF THIS
>>69106837
For the record, the general population is incapable of handling atheism.
In the absence of religion, they just convert to the most forceful option. While ideally, we'd be past all this, it's not how humanity works.
>>69108104
I HAVE NO IDEA
ALSO WHY ARE WE SHOUTING
>>69107858
It's not sometimes, it's consistently. The amount that just the salvation army alone does is immeasurable.
>>69106837
Mfw you link a picture of a man with a bachelor degree in engineering
>>69106837
people will probably always turn to religion during moments of weakness throughout the course of their lives, if not you, your children probably will.
What is it exactly that you think your children will replace your good Christian religion with, once the Jewish hollywood """progressive""" machine strips them of their religion, anyway?
Islam? Judaism? It's not going away, but the Christian America is under direct assault, and fucking morons like you are fighting for the wrong side.
Keep Christianity, because there are far worse alternatives.
all religion IS the problem.. it's just that islam is the very worst of all religions
>>69106837
Yes because religions like Buddhism, Christianity, and Judaism are creating so much terrorists right? They treat women are property still right? Oh they don't? Oh weird how these religions DON'T do these things and are automatically better.
Weird.
t. girl
>>69107499
I wasn't aware that the OKC bomber had an enormous network of Christians funding and helping with that attack. Oh, he didn't, that's just Muslims
Islam isn't a religion, it's a political ideology.
>>69107499
Fuck the ATF.
>>69106837
>>69108356
Haven't seen an IoW flag for a while. Where you been?
>>69108424
I didn't know today was "make shit up" day.
>>69107583
Strictly speaking, no. For instance, Christers and Hindus acknowledge the role of pathogens in illness, whereas some strains of Moslem will tell you that all diseases are signs of a god's disfavor, and Scientologists blame brain-washed discarnate souls of dead aliens.
Different levels and degrees of delusion.
>>69106837
Atheist humanism utilizes liberalism as it's moral high ground, thusly encouraging feminism, transgenders, etc. and is wholly worthless. Placing the blame of societal progress on faith instead of greed, laziness, consumerism, usury, etc. shows how biased and politicized atheism is.
>>69108615
>Hindus acknowledge the role of pathogens in illness
I refuse to believe this. They bathe in the Ganges for fuck's sake.
>>69106837
>it's not okay to generalize muslims
>let's further generalize and say the problem is le all religions.
Nope, totally not specific bad ideas in a few sects of one religion that are responsible for the majority of terror today. Nope, the problem is clearly either all of Islam or all of everything not strictly based in materialism.
>>69108594
Neither of the previous entries in the desert trilogy espouse a system of defying and subverting any non-sharia government.
>>69108046
>He thinks Timothy McVeigh killed in the name of Jesus (PBUH)
Atheism is just a symptom of apathy and is usually underneath the header of some other ideological belief that subs for religion.
The USSR is an example. One of the reasons for the cold war was that people were terrified of an atheist nation.
Now the signs of degeneracy have infiltrated the world. Time to wipe the slate and start from scratch.
>>69108553
The fake human pastor fled his meatshell, and we were forced to pursue deep into the Amazonian jungle. Kifflom!
>>69108748
This
>>69108719
They do acknowledge it, they just don't care
The same reason they wipe their arse with their hands and drink cow piss
They're just bizarre
>>69108615
>christers
There are plenty of christian denominations that belive all manner of shit. It's what happens when you don't mandate death to apostates. "Christian Scientists" refuse to see medical personnel of any kind. Jehovah's Witnesses also have some special rules about medical treatment.
>>69106837
true atheism will be our down fall
>>69108424
There's a clear distinction between Islam and IslamISM.
One is the relgion, one is the political ideology that tries to convert the world to Islam.
A huge step toward quelling the problem of radical islam would be to get moderate islamic people to speak out against islamism and its apologists.
To do this, you cant write off all muslims altogether, but you need to get as many muslims as possible to accept and integrate with western ideology.
>>69108774
I think they were more afraid of losing the mantle of world power to an enemy that at the time was almost as diametrically opposed to the belief system western Europe as Islam is ins Saudi Arabia today
>>69106837
Countries under sharia law: Saudi Arabia, Sudan, Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Brunei, United Arab Emirates, Qatar, Yemen and Mauritania.
Countries under "radical" Christianity - none.
-nice try libcuck
>>69106837
He's not gonna get in the White House by saying christianism is garbage.
>>69109026
The only thing standing in the way of full integration is other Muslims
The population density of any post code or zip code should not be allowed to exceed a certain percentage of Muslim population because they become insular and stay within their own cmunites and refuses to mix
>>69108774 >>69109019
Sadly, yes.
Atheism is no good en masse for societies.
There's still hope, though. Us.
>>69108779
I wouldn't be surprised if this was accurate with how little I know about you guys. I've never been or even checked you out online. Somehow I imagine you living like the Victorian
era, with cobbled streets 'n shit even know I know, rationally, this isn't the case.
I'm going to go Google Maps to look, now.
This isn't in a vacuum, suppressing one benefits the others and Islam should not benefit from mismatched scrutiny
>>69106837
>"atheists"
Every time
>>69109026
>There's a clear distinction between Islam and IslamISM.
The distinction is within your own mind.
BBC Poll: 49% of UK Muslims endorse hate preachers; 11% support Jihad; 27% support Charlie Hebdo execution
https://muslimstatistics.wordpress.com/2015/03/01/bbc-poll-49-of-muslims-endorse-hate-preachers-11-support-jihad-27-support-charlie-hebdo-execution/
"Moderate" Islam is a meme. It's akin to that wooly loose pseudo-Christianity where believing in Jesus and a literal Heaven are unimportant.
>>69109236
I've always pictured the Isle of Man being like Cornwall or a beachside Emmerdale
>>69109391
I just Googled Mapped it, near-ish to Douglas. It looks like a less shit Blackpool so far.
>>69106837
Well if you bring down most dangerous religion, others will be peace of cake. Aim for the king.
>>69106837
>>69108046
You can always be sure you're dealing with underageb& when the posts include hack science man and Hernie Panders.
>>69109380
With those percentages, there are clearly a large amount that do NOT support that stuff. 51% do not endorse hate preachers or have no opinion, 89% do not support jihad or have no opinion, 73% do not support Charlie Hebdo execution or have no opinion.
The problem is that these people that do NOT support those opinions are not speaking out loudly and harshly enough against the people that do.
To write those people off is to lose a strategic advantage. We need those people on our side, and they need to be the ones to shame the others into submission.
We need a united front against radical thinking that includes everyone that doesn't think that way, muslim or not.
Furthermore, we need people like you to stop pushing rational people away with your us vs. them approach.
The smart need to come together and rid the world of the dumb.
>>69109236
>Somehow I imagine you living like the Victorian era, with cobbled streets 'n shit even know I know, rationally, this isn't the case.
This is basically a flimsy, artificial economic support system for a Masonic tax haven and its attached call-centers. No cultural or tourism hotspots since planes were invented.
>>69109709
But for the the thing is those that don't support them would support them if it comes to a us and them type scenario
They would stick with their own, as evidenced by the numerous Muslims that come out after the Hebdo attack with well yeah it's terrible but that's what happens if you insult Momo PBUH
>>69109709
>We need a united front against radical thinking that includes everyone that doesn't think that way, muslim or not.
You're suffering from Liberal confusion. Islam is an Abrahamic conqueror ideology that demands submission. It would be nice if a totally harmless, secularly distanced form of Islam would satisfy the cultural demand for Sharia and all its political baggage, but that is a fantasy.
Just like American Catholicism and its irrational oppression of birth control and abortion, this is a dogmatic faith structure that must be destroyed or completely transmuted, not co-existed with.
>>69109996
>But for the the thing is those that don't support them would support them if it comes to a us and them type scenario
What kind of mental gymnastics are you doing to come to the conclusion that "some people saying 'thats' what you get = all people saying 'thats what you get'"?
Clearly if only 27% supported it, 73% do not support it or have no opinion.
We need those people on our side - they're more likely to convince the people that do support it otherwise than we'll ever be.
If you had some weakly held belief, who would be able to convince you to change your mind better.. someone simliar to you, or someone completely different?
>>69110129
>Just like American Catholicism and its irrational oppression of birth control and abortion, this is a dogmatic faith structure that must be destroyed or completely transmuted, not co-existed with.
I'm with you, but I don't think it's something that is quickly destroyed.
We need to infect the secular muslims and moderates with rationality, and get them to help us pull everyone toward rationality. There will always be crazies that cannot be helped, and in those cases we'll have to figure out another way.. force, etc. but we need the secular and moderates on our side.
>>69110219
If that's the case then why has none of this refugees welcome and the strict policing of anything anti muslim endeared scores of 'moderates' to denounce isis?
All they ever do is claim isis are not Muslims and terrorism has no religion. There's no ownership or admittance to any issues inside Islam.
>>69106837
Yes because societies like USSR or communist China who banned and persecuted religion were just heaven on earth
>>69110493
>All they ever do is claim isis are not Muslims and terrorism has no religion. There's no ownership or admittance to any issues inside Islam.
If a Christian does some crazy shit, and someone is like "fuck you, you're from a christian background" you're going to say "Of course i denounce this those guys are fucking crazy, that's not MY version of christianity why are you coming at me?"
Islam is a part of their culture though, so any time someone attacks anyone's culture, a natural response is to harden up against that attack whether it's correct or not.
The ONLY way to fix things is to integrate people into OUR way of thinking.. bring them in.
Not this libcuck idea of allow them in and then allow them to section off into their own communities, but to truly bring them around to our way of thinking and show them that it's better and more beneficial for them.
>>69110828
When was the last time a Christian in the name of Christ or Christianity blew up a marathon, shot up a concert or detonated themselves inside an airport?
>>69106837
>posts THIS obnoxious cunt
I disagree with Jew.
Also: bait post
>>69111124
The planned parenthood massacre in Colorado a few months ago
Next question
>>69111124
>When was the last time a Christian in the name of Christ or Christianity blew up a marathon, shot up a concert or detonated themselves inside an airport?
I'm not making that argument. I'm saying ANYONE's natural response to an out-group questioning their in-group is defensiveness. I'm talking psychology, not questioning that Islam is a problem.
I'm saying that we want to avoid that defense mechanism of the out-group "attacking" the in-group by integrating the secular and moderates to our point of view. Then we can really effectively take out the real problem.
>>69106837
the problem is faggots like yourself constantly bashing christianity while giving the most barbaric religion of all preferential treatment
>>69111459
See - when you attack this guy's group (Christianity) he hardens up against the idea that Christianity might be bad by saying "Christianity isn't as bad as Islam!!"
And he's right, it's not.
But he's doing EXACTLY what secular muslims do when you say "ISLAM IS BAD".
>>69106837
> implying Trump even means the bullshit he says to rednecks to get elected
http://dailycaller.com/2015/05/04/donald-trump-faults-draw-mohammad-event-organizer-for-taunting-muslims/
>>69106837
When Europe was finally unified under Christianity.
>DEUS VULT
>jews expelled/persecuted
>No shitskins
>Renaissance
>Enlightenment
>Science
>Industry
>Democracy
>almost every work of human culture of value
>No degeneracy
Now our societies have been secularised.
>sharia zones
>jews rule everything
>shitskins
>degeneracy
>no great culture
>no more moon landings
OH WOW WHAT AN AMAZING COINCIDENCE.
Look at pic related of disgusting fundamentalist Christians pigs. They must be destroyed goy- I mean GUYS.
>>69111273
That wasn't in the name of Christianity though, the man quite literally called himself a warrior for babies, obvious it's influenced by his beliefs but it wasn't just down to his religion
>>69110828
>The ONLY way to fix things is to integrate people into OUR way of thinking.. bring them in.
>Not this libcuck idea of allow them in and then allow them to section off into their own communities, but to truly bring them around to our way of thinking and show them that it's better and more beneficial for them.
This is the good and noble spirit behind citizenship tests in the USA. But while Moslems are strapping on bombs and having going-jihad-away parties for spree shooters, this kind of thinking is just too early, omae. And this garbage is built into their ideology. It's hard-wired. Islam is undeniably the actual problem, and it's being used as a control mechanism by evil people to do evil.
You don't defuse the shock collar around the slave's neck, you break it into unsalvageable pieces, along with the remote and the people who built it.
>>69111609
>But he's doing EXACTLY what secular muslims do when you say "ISLAM IS BAD".
On behalf of YOU and your Christian culture.
>>69111698
>When Europe was finally unified under Christianity
>Renaissance
come the fuck on, man
at least make an attempt at credibility
>>69111609
>secular muslims
Ok, mr big atheist adult man.
What's the opinion of your mates at reddit, tho?
unreformed religions the problem
>>69106837
Religion is God's message to man intercepted and corrupted by Satan.. or whatever the fuck you believe in. Basically God=Good, Religion=Blind faith,Violence,Xenophobia,Bad
>>69109742
Gib Masonic connections pls
>>69106837
It's anti-religion cunt faggots like you that have given rise to "social sciences" like sociology and "racism is prejudice + power so only white people can be racist" type shit.
You realize that, right, kike?
>>69111838
What do you wish me to explain about your own cultural heritage, even basic knowledge of which you have been cucked out of for the benefit of jews and muslims.
>>69111947
Pls explain how someone anti religion is Jewish?
>>69111842
I'm good friends with many secular muslims. Mostly Turkish. Also secular Jews, Christians, and Hindus.
>>69107583
>they're all equally delusional
Yet one of them takes their delusions more seriously than others.
>>69111609
>christianity is bad becuase islam is bad
>this makes sense because I dont have the balls to directly question the real problem
The amount of people that direct their hatred of religion into ones that dont affect personal liberties and not towards ones that need criticism completly nulifies your entire point of veiw.
>>69111965
The Renaissance was born out of Christianity, but was definitely a move away from dogmatic Christian belief toward more humanist ideals
>>69111698
>When Europe was finally unified under Christianity.
>Enlightenment
>Democracy
Both of those are unchristian doctrines.
>>69108107
>Meme Science Man knows nature abhors a vacuum
>still thinks creating a vacuum of faith is a practical goal for society to pursue
Hilarious isn't it?
>>69111927
Deposit ILS₪100,000,000 to the relevant account
>>69112169
You keep arguing against arguments I haven't made.
I think all religions are bad and Islam is the worst (at the moment).
In the post you are quoting, I was illustrating a point about how in-groups harden against out-groups that are perceived to be attacking them.
>>69106837
>implying islam is not the problem
>implying christians are blowing themselves up and executing muslims en masse
It's like an infestation of cockroaches. You can blame all insects, but only one of them is causing issues.
>>69112169
Basically this
It's incredibly safe to openly mock christianity right across the West but if you insult Islam you will most likely end up having your life ruined and face criminal charges
>>69107023
lol so what ? do you know any muslim around you ? do they look threatening to you ?
>>69112343
I wasn't Masonic connnections for that kinda money
>>69112169
>The amount of people that direct their hatred of religion into ones that dont affect personal liberties and not towards ones that need criticism completly nulifies your entire point of veiw.
All valid criticism is valid. Just because the Ethiopian is dying of thirst, doesn't mean he couldn't use some new shoes, too. Priorities exist for a reason.
>>69108088
I think you have the two mixed up there anon
>>69112350
So why shouldn't we harden against the out group that is consistently committing acts of terror against our in group?
>>69107414
>i'm a muslim
>i might blow up a building tomorrow
>because i want my religion to be numba one
>even though my religion doesn't tell me to
who are you gonna blame here ?
>>69112544
Yes, against the specific groups that do that, and try to get the ones that don't on our side instead of shutting them out completely.
If they can not be reasoned with or brought around to our side, then shut them out too, but we have to try to integrate them first because allies within the larger muslim "group" would be more beneficial than no allies.
>>69107499
It's funny because McVeigh literally justified what he did by citing u.s. military intervention abroad (including muslim countries)
>>69112391
Go out in the streets and put your money were your mouth is you racist ukip voter, see what I mean, you wont becuase your own government will chastise you
So you attack christian denominations intead to let off steam becuase you are a gutless coward, keep citing your baseless rhetoric because thats all you can do you cuck
>>69112480
US$10,000 gets you into the bluepill lower lodges where you can get your parking tickets fixed, but you will be subliminally brainwashed into a worthless mindslave within 9 months
peace and goodwill is pure evil that's on par with islam
>>69112674
You're such a contrarian that you're now arguing against someone that was agreeing with you.
GTFO
When will the elitist post-9gag atheist virgins realise that atheism is no different to feminism and modern liberalism? In fact, it is the phenomena responsible for everything people on /pol/ call a threat to Western civilisation.
Aside from providing the minority with a feeling of moral superiority atheism is essentially useless. All atheism has done is rob normal people of stability in their lives (a moral reference point, sense of community etc.). On the ruins of religion a culture of relativism and decadence has sprouted, which is by far your favourite thing to complain about on the Internet.
We should not return to the ages of authority on religious enlightenment but how are we supposed to contend with the current problems without a religion/ fate?
>>69112631
But that's what we've tried to do to such a point it's absurd. We have also every msm outlet calling for everyone to take in millions of refugees and spouting the terrorism has no religion bullshit, you have liberals organising pro muslim marches in the street, mosques being built more and more
Enough pandering, now is the time to say to them who do you stand with, us or them
>>69112499
These people are part of the prblem though, he is undermining his own cuase by criticising one thing publicly but not the other because fear of being labeled a racist
>>69112674
I was going to reply seriously but then I saw your flag
You nearly got me then Australia you silly goose
Can you Christfags stop with the suicide bombings? Jesus
>>69112784
Directed at the wrong person
>>69112350
Supposed to be this guy
>>69107499
neither of them were christian when the attacks happened you trolling fuckwit
>>69112607
>my religion doesn't tell me to
http://www.answering-islam.org/Quran/Themes/jihad_passages.html
>>69113046
That makes even less sense since I'm not british.. how the fuck could I vote for UKIP?
>tfw atheist
>have conversations with qt catholic girl
>she's constantly telling me I'm the most catholic person she's ever met
>was raised Lutheran
>Don't really believe in the big guy in the sky and his son watching me jerk it to big anime tity, but it's cool if you do
>one caveat though
>vehemently against islam
>deus vult
>DEUS VULT
DEUS VULT.
DEUS VULT.
DEUS VULT.
DEUS VULT.
FUCKING REMOVE KEBAB FROM THE FUCKING PLANET
DEUS VULT
>>69112870
Sure thing, nice to see a well written rebutal by a fellow of the Cresent
>>69106837
>atheism rises in the west
>acceptance of islam also rises
>terror attacks increase
Let's face it. Atheism isn't just degenerate, it's a danger to society. It breaks down the cohesive glue of white societies that allows them to resist foreign invaders with different values. Because, unlike Asians, white people are so individualistic they need a social glue like religion to bind their societies.
The other religions had their genocidal moments in the olden days when it was acceptable and expected because we were all still barbarians. Muzzies just waited too long to have theirs.
i'm pretty sure everywhere i go in my country, there are no "ISIS support" talks. everyone despises ISIS. my super religious family was always shocked when seeing ISIS bombing/killing news. where do you guys learn about Islam ? from the news ? from your friends ?
>>69109236
>There's still hope, though. Us.
You are delusional on more levels then. Also its more red pilled to accept the truth, then learn how to deal with it rather then being scared of knowledge because it will magically make you a tolerant cuck. Here is a great example of how atheists can be cucks, but also a potentially for being based as fuck.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vln9D81eO60
>>69113168
I meant this guy>>69112870
Im on a phone so im not versed in its ui
>>69113168
Look at the flag, remember the most important rule
Shitposting has one nation
>>69106837
How about take it from a guy that made his career on calling Christians retarded you Fucking faggot
>christian extremists hold up signs saying "god hates fags"
>muslim "extremists" fly planes into skyscrapers
k
>>69113201
You spelt Crescent wrong you infidel, for this you must die
Bil Nye is the biggest fucking faggot in the world. I can hardly stand to look at his disgusting face. Fuck him.
>>69113257
Nigger go read a history book about the crusades
>>69106837
>unironically supporting islamization of your country
Every day till you like it.
>>69108088
You have this backwards.
Hitch mentioned in a car ride that Dawkins wouldn't mind seeing all religion eradicated.
Hitchens went on to say that he saw some use for religion, but would only advocate for less of it, but not a complete absence of it.
>>69112326
So we'll worship something else
I suggest Nyotengu
>>69113182
nice blog post
http://www.christiantoday.com/article/richard.dawkins.says.christianity.is.worlds.best.defence.against.radical.islam/76416.htm
please call me when a Christian extremist (lmfaooo) blows up a non-denominational church
it blows my mind how many libcucks hate all religion yet bend over for islam, you know, the religion that still murders gays, hates women's rights and blows people up for disagreeing
>>69106837
Yeah the problem is religion alright, Christianity was a cuck religion who gave women the right to vote and now the country has gone to shit
Good fucking job Christcucks
>>69106837
Mfw atheists think all religion in general is the problem, except Islam cuz dat b raycis
>>69106837
christianity is the problem because it breeds cucks who allow Islam to invade.
but I wouldn't be afraid to live by Christians. I'd probably cuck them lmao.
>>69112607
>even though my religion doesn't tell me to
sure thing Mouloud
>>69113650
ty 4 the (you)
>>69106837
>>mfw trumpets think Islam is the problem and not all religion in general
Yeah, I noticed all these bombings and shit the last few months are committed by people of all religions, not just fanatic Muslims.
>>69113327
>image macros do not lie.
>>69113152
my browser blocked that site. try rooting from a real islam website that is owned by real muslims, not propagandist like you.
>>69111698
>Europe
>unified under Christianity.
This is American level of ignorance and dellusion.
>>69113947
Except he did say exactly what's in my image you retarded piece of shit
>>69113729
>atheists
SJWs* ftfy. Islam is not a race.
>>69113947
>doesn't know who Dawkins is
>>69114124
That's quite a good response desu
>>69113989
It's direct quotes from the koran and nothing else. No commentary. Nothing. Only koran quotes.
>>69114210
But it's not any more.
The same way as you can't be racist against whites because racism is power + privilege. It's almost like you expect leftists to play by the rules of language. They change everything to suit them.
SJWism is basically hedonistic anti-Islam. Maybe that's why they love them.
>>69114124
Based Dawkins.
>>69106837
Lack of religion is actually the problem.
I mean, I am an atheist but I think the state should never allow its religious culture to be overthrown by the crappy minorities.
The biggest problem in Europe right now is that there are too many liberal atheists that think everyone should have rights and is equal regardless of religion. That ends up allowing free reign for Islam to take over a civilization with a weak religious culture like modern Europe.
>>69113989
http://archive.is/hNjX3
Does this work?
>>69113152
You can find just as many ridiculously barbaric and violent things in the old and new testaments.. the difference is that billions of people don't take them literally
we need dogmatic adherence to islam to be marginalized like it did for judaism and christianity
AND we need to keep dogmatic adherence to christianity (the kind that results in abortion clinic attacks) and judaism (the kind that results in killing of children and the theft of people's private property) at bay
>>69114466
The problem is not atheism - it's liberal projection of one's values onto others who definitely DO NOT hold those values.
We need more rational atheists that don't believe in the fallacy of the Noble Savage.
>>69112801
>We should not return to the ages of authority on religious enlightenment but how are we supposed to contend with the current problems without a religion/ fate?
Waah, I need fairytales and delusion to cope with reality! How can I be expected to be responsible for my own moral authority!? I am a manchild!!!
Thiests, GTFO
>>69113267
From the quran. And from comparing the quran to the actions of muslims in every single country in which they are allowed.
>>69113882
Malheur Wildlife Refuge ring a bell? As Americans we have a much higher probability of dying from a violent white Christian man than some enraged haji.
> I still think we need to talk about a Final Solution for Islam.
>>69114581
So you agree we should call Islam out on all its shit each and every time it happens(which is every hour of every day all the time, forever)
I'm not going to delve into how there are no parts of the scripture that talk about abortion and why you're a retard for implying it, I just want you to know you said we're right.
>>69114706
I agree that atheism is not a problem by definition. But you can't deny the correlation between atheism and liberalism, liberal atheists are the overwhelming majority of liberals.
Its like they try to avoid any conservative religious values and end up being extremely liberal.
>>69114581
>new testaments
LET'S SEE THEM THEN.
>>69114706
As an atheist, I agree.
>>69108748
Fucking this. People who say otherwise think the Quran is just a story time like the bible, while it is actually full of clear rules for running society while waging war on others. Then on top you have the hadiths which is Mohammeds exploits as a pedophile warlord, its a cult of war.
>>69114466
>The biggest problem in Europe right now is that there are too many liberal atheists that think everyone should have rights and is equal regardless of religion. That ends up allowing free reign for Islam to take over a civilization with a weak religious culture like modern Europe.
this
>>69114718
>>69114718
*tips banana*
>>69114344
>>69114523
“…whosoever killeth a human being… it shall be as if he had killed all mankind, and whoso saveth the life of one, it shall be as if he had saved the life of all mankind…” quran 5:32
>>69114720
read >>69114952
>>69114934
>>69114865
I havent' been disagreeing with you this whole time. I've been saying we need not shut out people that might help us.
>>69114934
Brave new science atheists can't spell for shit.
>mfw fedora tippers can't distinguish murderers, terrorists, bombers, etc. from morons who want to push creationism
>>69106837
>Islam is the only religion causing any real trouble
>fedoras: All religion is the problem
How can someone seriously be this deficient in critical thinking?
>>69114952
>this shit again
"On that account: We ordained for the Children of Israel that if any one slew a person - unless it be for murder or for spreading mischief in the land - it would be as if he slew the whole people: and if any one saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of the whole people. Then although there came to them Our messengers with clear signs, yet, even after that, many of them continued to commit excesses in the land." Quran, 5:32
Your verse is literally saying that it's ok to kill people who are not following islamic law.
Fuck off, retard.
>>69114952
Quran (2:191-193) - "And kill them wherever you find them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out. And Al-Fitnah [disbelief or unrest] is worse than killing...
but if they desist, then lo! Allah is forgiving and merciful. And fight them until there is no more Fitnah [disbelief and worshipping of others along with Allah] and worship is for Allah alone
>>69114718
You are a disgrace to atheism. Please stop posting already.
>>69114873
I hate that the term "liberal" has been co-opted by these regressive faggots.
I call them regressive leftists. They are no better than the non-thinking religious idiots they seem to love being cucked by.
>>69114952
How about you post the rest of the sura and the one afterwards.
>>69114952
inserting ommitted part
...unless for a soul or for corruption [done] in the land ...
And next verse:
Indeed, the penalty for those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger and strive upon earth [to cause] corruption is none but that they be killed or crucified or that their hands and feet be cut off from opposite sides or that they be exiled from the land. That is for them a disgrace in this world; and for them in the Hereafter is a great punishment,
>>69115237
In their language, they're the most progressive of all.
I really can't think of a better objective classification if not "extreme liberalism".
Liberalism isn't bad, but when you end up stepping on your own culture built over many years to adopt more liberal "tolerant" values, that's when things should stop.
>>69106837
for western society the problem is feminism, it has destroyed us with infertile wretched females who hate males and love authority.
>he thinks the average man can comprehend and decide his own morality
Religion is necessary to provide a moral compass for the common man and Christianity is the best
>>69115187
>Your verse is literally saying that it's ok to kill people who are not following islamic law.
lol it doesn't. it really doesn't. your intention in finding mistakes will only shows mistakes to you.
>>69107414
There are violent Christian extremists. They're just not in Western countries so nobody reports on them.
>>69115193
fitnah means slander, defamation,smear. seems that you can't really trust ALL translator
>>69107762
Jesus didn't but other Christian leaders did.
>>69115193
plus, that verse is a story about the quraisy people that are gonna kill the prophet when they saw Him. read the whole thing
>>69106837
Yes because we all know no atrocities have ever been committed in the name of unbridled secular science.
>>69114952
>>69115035
>quran 5
I gets a bit murdery and rapey after that.
>make firm those who believe. I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them.
K 8:012
>...slay the idolaters wherever you find them...take them captives and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush...
K 9:005
>Abstain from sex, except with the captives whom your right hand possesses - for, in their case, you are free from blame.
Qur’an 23:1-6
>...when you meet in battle those who disbelieve, then smite the necks until when you have overcome them
K 47:004
>Guard your chastity, except with the captives whom your right hand possesses - for then you are not to be blamed.
Qur’an 70:22-30
>>69115222
>disgrace to atheism
>disgrace
>to atheism
The "atheism is a religion" memes were not instructional in nature.
Grow a frontal lobe
>>69106837
the problem is not secularized religious states
Gaddafi pls come back ;_;
>>69115678
>>69115759
Kill yourself.
Quran (4:74) - "Let those fight in the way of Allah who sell the life of this world for the other. Whoso fighteth in the way of Allah, be he slain or be he victorious, on him We shall bestow a vast reward."
>>69115304
again, who's gonna cut their hands off ? cutting hands would be one of the tortures in hell. people can only exile them, but the cutting part will be done by the only One in charge, God himself
>>69115480
mankind has learned morality though trial and error, even before the era of religion
>>69115480
>the common man
>>69107583
>In this moment, I am Euphoric
>>69115998
I thought your flag was the campbell soup label.
>>69107762
>Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
>>69115933
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GawmWVEgeI8
>>69108594
your right, and communism is only an economic theory and not a form of government.
>>69106837
Reddit is that way
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>>69106837
>All religions are bad meme
They really aren't. Even your precious fedora tippers like Hitchens and Dawkins say that much.
>>69115933
>>69115998
Saudi Arabia cuts quite a bit of hands
Quran (4:95) - "Not equal are those of the believers who sit (at home), except those who are disabled (by injury or are blind or lame, etc.), and those who strive hard and fight in the Cause of Allah with their wealth and their lives. Allah has preferred in grades those who strive hard and fight with their wealth and their lives above those who sit (at home).Unto each, Allah has promised good (Paradise), but Allah has preferred those who strive hard and fight, above those who sit (at home) by a huge reward "
>>69110129
FUCKIN RARE M9
>>69116152
>what is a metaphor
>Matthew 26
>52 Then said Jesus unto him, Put up again thy sword into his place: for all they that take the sword shall perish with the sword.
Not
>BEHEAD THE INFIDEL
>SLAY THE UNBELIEVER
>SMITE THE IDOLATER
>>69114952
I love it when muslim defenders post the edited version of 5:32. Its the clearest sign of ignorance or Taqqiyya ever.
It's even better that 5:33 orders you to "reward" those who are against Islam with Crucifixion, amputation and exile.
Such a peaceful religion.
>>69115933
>again, who's gonna cut their hands off ?
Muslims.
>>69115878
>The "atheism is a religion" memes were not instructional in nature.
The atheist religion has taqiyya too?
>>69106837
I think Sikhs are pretty cool
>>69106837
atheism is a shitty religion
apatheism is fine
Christianity is fine
Mormonism is fine (unpopular XD)
why the Mormon hate desu they are usually decent people and have many white children
>>69116088
i thought so too
>>69110129
every time i see Isle of Man i just imagine a bunch of greased up homos in leather underwear having a huge orgy on a beach somewhere.
>>69106837
>mfw the latest trend in MIDF shilling is to pretend to be an atheist+ on /pol/
>>69116157
so what ? act of homosexuality means analsex, not just romantic relationship. and yes, it's wrong in the religion. and no, i'm not watching the video, i can't stand bloody violence.
>>69116974
>atheism+
>atheism卍
>>69116305
well it's them. saudi arabia is not God's right hand. and what's the point of quoting that ? it's about procrastination. just so you know, going to school to learn is also counted as Jihad.
I live in London.
Hindus, Sikhs, Buddhists, Christians all get along perfectly with hardly any issues.
Then there is the Muslim population who have major issues with every other religious group here.
Immigration is fine, just no Islamic immigration.
>>69106837
Moderate secularized religion like Christianity is a necessary evil. The faith that protects against barbarism like Islam.
>>69117188
So what you are saying is that Saudi Arabia, which houses Mecca, the most important place in Islam, is not following proper Islamic teachings?
And the rest of the Muslim world is just okey with that, and let's them remain in position of your holiest site?
But Trump is right.
Christianity, and most modern religions, has gone through reforms to try remove the pointless barbarism in order to better fit with modern people.
Islam is still basically a caveman religion that tells you to murder anyone you don't like.
>>69116420
lol do you even know what Taqiya is ? if you're reading the english translation ones, you're probably the one who falls on the 'trap'. that's why it's very important for a muslim to learn arabic instead of reading the translation. can't really trust anyone these days
>>69116570
no, God Himself, after you're dead, when you're burning in hell.
>>69117343
saudi arabia, not including Mecca, is very corrupted. Mecca is just like a very big mosque
>>69109742
Nice flag I like your goats
>>69117352
It's not just Trump that says that.
Even professional fedora tippers like Sam Harris say that.
>>69106837
Your right man, but once 99% of people become secular atheists who believe in science, logic, and reason, almost all wars would stop, trillions of dollars would be freed up for welfare and science, and we could start colonizing the galaxy. This is why once atheism becomes accepted as fact, and theism is treated as the mental illness that it is, there should be a three-step program to secure the scientific advancement of the human race.
1. Rehabilitation: Teach religious people how their god is not real. I think this would be successful for at least 90% of cases.
2. Sterilization: If people don't renounce their religion they should be sterilized. In this way, they die alone and will not be able to spread their stupidity to children and out breed atheists. This would prevent an idiocracy situation from occurring.
3. Imprisonment: If there are still people preaching their religion after this, they should be thrown in either an asylum or in a prison. They can make license plates for cars after that along with picking up from trash by the road.
Only in the worst case scenarios though should a 4th step be implemented; execution. Only after all religious people worldwide are rehabilitated or removed from society, a near utopian society episode would be possible.
Proof of this method working though can be found within any decent history textbook about the USSR. Despite being a "dirty communist" country the USSR transformed from an agrarian society to the first nation in space in a few decades by eradicating theism. The PRC also implemented similar policies during the 60’s and 70’s which led to the confiscation of religious property and opened the way to the economic successes of today. Likewise, Russia's economic failures during the 90’s can be linked to a rise of religion.
>>69117188
You tell them that mate. I'm sure they and all the other sharia countries will stop cutting petty criminals' hands off with your amazing logical voice of reason.
>going to school to learn is also counted as Jihad
>going to school is the moral equivalent of going to war
The more you defend islam, the worse you make it look. It's better if you don't talk about it and let people be ignorant of it like most in the West, Because what almost all muslim countries and people are doing is an indefensible, demonic BLASPHEMY AND INSULT TO GOD. You and your kind dishonour and disgrace God every day. Don't lie to us about islam. Teach your own people to honour God and SHAME SATAN.
>>69116157
I approve of all these except the alcohol one
>>69106837
It all comes down to <Current Year>, you Bowie-grade faggot. Fundamentalist Islam is the current problem. They are, in fact, a scourge on society in <Current Year>. I encourage you to broaden your horizons and travel, you'll soon see.
Since time travel isn't an option, of course people are going to focus on the ideology which is causing problems during <Current Year>
You fucking clown
>>69107499
> McVeigh
> Christian
Pick one and only one you fucking retard. By his own words McVeigh disavowed his childhood religion and was a self declared agnostic.
>>69117779
Jihad does not equal going to war. the literal meaning of Jihad is hardwork/struggle. if you're attacked and you're defending your country, that's Jihad. only aggressive in defensive situation.
i'm just one person, my voice won't be heard.
>>69117888
Of course you do.
>>69117721
Hi Kim, can you nuke california now plz?
>>69117964
rape is a sin, those guys commited sin
>>69117721
This kills the crab. If bait, good bait. If you actually believe this, I hope you live to the ripe old age of 120 so the buttfrustration builds up as your daydream fails to materialize
>>69117721
>once 99% of people become secular atheists who believe in science, logic, and reason, almost all wars would stop, trillions of dollars would be freed up for welfare and science, and we could start colonizing the galaxy
THIS HAS NEVER BEEN TRIED IN THE HISTORY OF ATHEISM
>>69108356
RARE
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>>69113989
That sounds like a you problem. Get a browser that doesn't block legitimate sites, then we'll talk.
>>69118098
Ok sorry man. Peace be with you. But it's not us that needs to be taught about the true way of islam. The ones who hold all the power in the muslim world are a disgrace. And I don't see hardly any godly muslims criticising or condemning them. It makes me believe that islam doesn't help people find God, but only puts demons in their hearts.
>>69117582
Not my job to read your cult manifesto written by a savage who never spoke to God. Fix your societies and maybe I won't think of you as a bunch of shitheads.
>>69106837
I find your lack of faith disturbing
>>69118338
The problem is that when religion is discarded, fedoras dont adopt philosophy and live and group up around particular philosophy to the same extent as religion, so it's seen as an after thought and hobby instead of a lifestyle like the religion it replaced
Because of this, people become animals to passion and urge
>>69118357
lurk moar
>>69106837
Guns don't kill people, terrorist do.
>>69118693
Not meant for >>69118338
Just needed to open a reply box
>>69106837
You want christian persecution ?
Thats the last thing that will confirm revelations tribulation.
Ill die with pleasure knowing the full truth.
>>69107944
>Starts wars, condones rape, marries 9 year old
>Allows self to be betrayed and brutally tortured to death, forgives torturers, instructs followers to never raise a hand even in self defense
implying equivalence
>>69118924
but jesus flipped a table once so you cant say jesus isnt a paedophile warlord like muhammed
>>69110564
you got a problem with gulags, brah?
>>69106837
Does anyone else really fucking hate Bill Nye nowadays?
He clearly has no fucking clue what the hell he's talking about 98% of the time and is just a millennial strokejob on most of the shows they bring him out to.
>>69118338
>>69117467
The Quran says both.
>almost all wars would stop,
lel
>>69118693
When religion is discarded, most of the time they try to fill the void with consumerism or hedonism. These aren't good for society.
>>69119065
The global memetic plague of 2007, the crisis that the economic collapse of 2008 was triggered to conceal, was wildly, uncontrollably successful.
Many great minds and intellectual assets to humanity were needlessly lost.
Now many former pioneers in comedy, philosophy and rhetoric have faded into mediocre, bluepilled stupidity and progressive authoritarianism.
NEVAR4GET
